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Speaker 1: The following episode was recorded before the WGA sag Aftra

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Speaker 1: strikes of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had a big success with Footloose, and

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Speaker 2: I remember a lot of the films that I did

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Speaker 2: after that for a few years didn't pan out, and

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Speaker 2: the idea of playing a lead character was kind of

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Speaker 3: But that was really a.

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Speaker 2: Blessing in a lot of ways, because I realized that

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Speaker 2: what I really wanted to do was play characters, and

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Speaker 2: if I was really going to follow my passion, I

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Speaker 2: had to say no to leading roles that just weren't

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Speaker 2: as good as the small parts. And when you do that,

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Speaker 2: it's a scary moment. But there's something really really powerful

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Speaker 2: about being able and learning to say no. And today

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Speaker 2: Matthew McConaughey and me dig into this. He shares in

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Speaker 2: his life and when he had to learn to say

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Speaker 2: no and all the good things that came from that

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Speaker 3: So lean in.

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Speaker 4: Listen up.

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Speaker 3: I'm pleasure welcoming Matthew McConaughey to this podcast. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for being here. It's kind of crazy that

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Speaker 3: our paths haven't crossed really into work. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: think we've met a couple of times, but yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I don't even think we've even been in the same movie,

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Speaker 3: even without scenes. So this is something that I will

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Speaker 3: look forward to and hopefully occur in the future.

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Speaker 4: We got time, we had time.

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Speaker 3: We do hopefully hopefully. Yeah, where are you now?

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Speaker 4: I'm in Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 3: This is your home? Correct, This is home.

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Speaker 4: Austin, Texas. I went to school here, graduated eighty nine

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Speaker 4: to ninety three, moved out west with the U haul

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Speaker 4: on the career, thankfully started a family made homestead back

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Speaker 4: Wife still loves me still once we around, you know.

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Speaker 3: How old are your kids?

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Speaker 4: Fourteen, twelve and nine? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome, you got years are much much younger than

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Speaker 3: my fourteen, twelve and nine. You know, that's I got

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Speaker 3: to say. When we went through this pandemic situation, you know,

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Speaker 3: I was grateful, as hard as it was for all kids,

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Speaker 3: because to me at that age, I think back to myself,

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Speaker 3: how the kids have gotten through it to be so

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Speaker 3: friendships and you know, love and sports and all these things.

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Speaker 4: We're navigating coming out of that right now, and their

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Speaker 4: re entrance into paternal groups and there, whether it's the

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Speaker 4: ballet or the sports team and have that sense of

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Speaker 4: community for the first time that you can trust, oh,

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Speaker 4: we're going to be with them next week and the

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Speaker 4: week after that, which they didn't have that for three years.

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Speaker 4: They're navigating that and that's even awkward, the reentry. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would say, lean, we were on the conservative side

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Speaker 4: Because that was everybody was in limbo, we as adults

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially when we had this terrible realization. I've

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Speaker 3: on to. Yeah. Yeah, amen, Well, so you mentioned that

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Speaker 3: you all, I think that's I mean, I'm sure you've

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Speaker 3: But I think that the origin stories of someone that

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Speaker 3: is such a phenomenal performer as yourself are fascinating to people,

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Speaker 3: and I'm I'm curious about that moment where you say,

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Speaker 5: With my life.

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Speaker 4: Well, it sort of found me. I was. I was

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Speaker 4: at University of Texas Philosophy liberal arts major. I decide

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Speaker 4: I want to go into storytelling business in the business

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Speaker 4: communication to the film department. I don't have any art,

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Speaker 3: Interesting but when you first what you were thinking about

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Speaker 4: Now, in hindsight, I look back, and most of the

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed that and was evidently being told he's pretty

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Speaker 4: good at that. Just shut your mouth show me what

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Speaker 4: you're talking about? You know what I mean? I walk

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Speaker 4: High I walk in this bar because one of the

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Speaker 4: he springs over a free Vodkent Tonic and says, hey, Matthew,

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Speaker 4: there's a guy at the end of the bar.

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Speaker 2: He's a producer.

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Speaker 4: He's in time producing a movie. I went down and

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Speaker 4: Don Phillips, great casting director Don Phillips.

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Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, it does sound familiar.

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Speaker 4: I've tried to think legendary. He works Melvin and Howard.

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Speaker 4: He was a producer. He cast Fast Time to Ridge

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Speaker 4: My High cast Days Confused, which is what he was

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Speaker 3: Days in Confused, which is having its thirtieth anniversary.

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Speaker 4: Hey yeah, yeah, amazing, Phil, hadn't I introduced myself to him.

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Speaker 4: Three and a half hours later, we kicked out a

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Speaker 4: ever done any acting? I said, well, I'm film schooled

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Speaker 3: I go down.

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Speaker 4: There's a script. It's tagged with three scenes. Check this

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Speaker 4: guy out named Woodson. You might dig him. I go

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Speaker 4: read for it. I get the part. Those three scenes

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Speaker 4: I went back by senior year to film school, and

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Speaker 3: It's tough to teach that stuff in the classroom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So I was already out of the book, and

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Speaker 4: to tell you this story I had. I had the

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Speaker 3: Al right, would that be a a cassette or this CD?

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Speaker 4: I believe CD O CD. Okay, now this is about it.

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Speaker 4: It's a little over seven minuteating myself.

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Speaker 3: I'm dating myself with that question.

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Speaker 4: I got made a track, but I but I have

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Speaker 4: I go, is that's it? I'm making great time. It's

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 4: Well, as you would know, I listened to that song

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Speaker 4: twenty seven freaking times in a road because it's another touch,

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Speaker 4: another two and a half hours, you get the Sunset

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Speaker 4: Sunset Drive and a Sunset Street.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, they need to rename that street. Matthew

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Speaker 3: McConaughey way had me. I think, I think that would be.

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Speaker 3: That would be, that would be a great move. I

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Speaker 3: want to I'm gonna I'm gonna start lobbying the town

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Speaker 3: is a that is an amazing story. Well listen, I

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Speaker 3: more interested in what they think about the work. And

435
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: when it comes to me, you could just make your

436
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 3: decisions up. I mean, I don't mind poking fun of

437
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: myself or you know, being making an asshole of myself basically,

438
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: And I don't know, can you relate to that at all?

439
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 4: Or yeah?

440
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: Can?

441
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm to on two fronts, I think one,

442
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can say I don't take

443
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: myself seriously. I do know that I take comedy seriously,

444
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: and I take the comedy of life very seriously, and

445
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 4: I take screw ups very seriously and I trust that

446
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do them, and when I do, I'm like, Yep,

447
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 4: be serious about that hip fell on your face. Yep,

448
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: that didn't work out. I do take that seriously, so

449
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: that maybe helps me chuckle at that. I also know

450
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 4: this there, you know, the certain initiations in Hollywood and

451
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: they come for me. The one that came at year

452
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: seven ninety two, around ninety nine was something hit me

453
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: one day, and I think it was after Yeah, so

454
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: after I come in with day's confused time to kill,

455
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: I'm you know, on the cover of the magazines and

456
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 4: I'm a new leading man, et cetera, et cetera. Then

457
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 4: I did the few films in my so called star

458
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 4: drop a little bit, and a lot of the people

459
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 4: that were calling me twice a day wouldn't you back

460
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 4: after time, gil were not even returning my calls. People

461
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 4: that I had spent executives, I had spent holidays with,

462
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 4: I couldn't give them to turn my call. And it

463
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: personally hurt sure all those people, Like when I first

464
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 4: got to Hollywood, I remember telling my moms, I've never

465
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 4: heard people say I love you so much. I said,

466
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: I've said that to like five people in my life.

467
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: They say it all the time, der man, this place

468
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 4: is great. Well, then some of those people also wouldn't

469
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 4: return my calls, right, and I'm like, wait, but that

470
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 4: person says me, lovely man at the part they said

471
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: they looked me in the eyes that I love you,

472
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: and I meant something and I can't get to return

473
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: my call. But I had something hit me at year seven.

474
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, you got to get the joke

475
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: in Hollywood. It's not personal, right, your business. So part

476
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 4: of that was not I think, leads into what you're

477
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 4: saying about not taking certain things seriously about what other

478
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 4: people think. And I had to get over the little

479
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: bridge of you know, being pissed off at them going

480
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: f you. You know what I mean. Now you're the

481
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: one who wouldn't turn my car. Because then when my

482
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: star went back up and I'm going, oh, now you

483
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: call again, I felt like I wanted to rub it

484
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: in a little bit and I was like, no.

485
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 3: I don't do that.

486
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 4: Be cool, be graceful.

487
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: It's just businessman.

488
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 4: Heroes back up.

489
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: Now.

490
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: Of course they return the car. Actually they call you

491
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 4: take the ride as that man Don Phillips, who I

492
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 4: met that night in that in that bar, and Austin said,

493
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: want to give you the best advice I can give

494
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 4: you for success in this game. So what he goes,

495
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: lean horse long ride. He goes, it's going to do this.

496
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 4: It's going to do this if you can stay in

497
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 4: the saddle and just keep riding. Endurance can be your friend.

498
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: People say, what's a secret to longevity. I say, there

499
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: is no secret to longevity. Longevity, he's a secret. If

500
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: you can, you can just hang in. Tell me about

501
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: green Lights before we get into just Keep Living Found,

502
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: which I'm fascinating, but I'm also interested in green lights

503
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: on your book.

504
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so green Lights is h I finally got the

505
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 4: courage to say, you know, I've been writing. I've been

506
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: writing since I was fourteen. Journals and stuff and stories

507
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: and people in character approaches to life. I mean inherently,

508
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: I been waking up sometime every day in my life

509
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: since I was.

510
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: Thirteen.

511
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 4: Probably I've wake up with some sort of perspective of

512
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: measuring weight. What's the approach for greater satisfaction, greater residuals

513
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: in life, whether that's relationships, whether that's lay down good work.

514
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 4: The work will speak for yourself, it'll outlive you. You know,

515
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: just don't get you know those times when you get

516
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: heady out there and you're like, no, just do the work,

517
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 4: keep it simple, focus on whatever that is. I've been

518
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: waking up trying to think about how to be a

519
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: better person, better man, find more satisfaction, looking for myself, searching,

520
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: trying to find the figure out, you know, as close

521
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: as I came to the truth or if it's fiction,

522
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: let's just call it that and go with it. Green

523
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: Lights was came out of going back over all, the

524
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: having the curders to go open up those journals for

525
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 4: the first time in my life and go where's your

526
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: head and heart been over the last thirty years and

527
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: see if we can find some themes. And there were stories,

528
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: there were people, there were places, there were approaches, perspectives, philosophies,

529
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: there was prayers, there were poems, and I sort of

530
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 4: went in and found personal stories to launch some of

531
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: these approaches that I've tested and found worked that always

532
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: were paired with stories of things that I have, grand

533
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 4: plans I had that I thought would work, where I

534
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: ate shit and it didn't work, which kind of goes

535
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: back to what I was saying earlier. I take the

536
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: comedy seriously as well, because I can trust in it coming,

537
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so that's basically what

538
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: the book is. It's I found that you can we

539
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: can engineer success, we can have a goal, we can willpower,

540
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: we can we can right we can write that headline

541
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: now and then work to go achieve it, to get

542
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 4: to the headline in a year or two. We can

543
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 4: engineer it. There's things we can do, there's habits. I know.

544
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: It's true. Also, half of my successes, which is a

545
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: lot more than I thought it was going to be

546
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: when I looked in the diaries and journals of mine,

547
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: over half of my successes were when I took a

548
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: risk and learned to fly on the way down where

549
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: it was not engineered. It was like I just I

550
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: was lost, took a risk and figured it out and

551
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 4: landed right in the bucket, hit the target, and it

552
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: was like, oh, you know, I had nothing to do

553
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 4: with plans or engineering, just went and followed inspiration and

554
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 4: and and listened to myself and put myself in places

555
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: where I can hear the truth land like a butterfly

556
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: and a lightning bolt at the same time in which

557
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: it does. And so it's about, you know, where we

558
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 4: can engineer them success and where it's just part of

559
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: the art of life is just dancing and and and

560
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 4: and letting the magic and the inspiration hit you the

561
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: right time and trusting in it to follow through on

562
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: it and go. That was true even though nobody else

563
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: may have.

564
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: Heard it.

565
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: Follow it, and that's that's a lot of we'green lined

566
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: about that sounds amazing.

567
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: Have you gotten responses already kind of you know, anecdotal

568
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: sort of responses for people who've looked at the book

569
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: and have reached out to you to to say that

570
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: it helped them in some kind of way.

571
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: I have, and I think the most consistent one is

572
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: people that have come up and not just say hey,

573
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: I like your book. And people come up and strangers

574
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: and will stop me, put two hands on my shoulders,

575
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: make sure they're looking them in the eye, and go.

576
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: Your stories and the risks that you took are telling

577
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: me that my stories and the risk are matter, and

578
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: I'm taking more risk. I'm in this place in life

579
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: because I went shed that's right. He was talking to me.

580
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: I was in a similar situation, and I, instead of

581
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: taking the risk, I went, now I don't think I will,

582
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: and now I'm going to do that. That's been the

583
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: most gratifying thing is to get that reverb, that mirror

584
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: pop back at me with someone going thank you for

585
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: those stories. They made me feel like my stories matter.

586
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: They made me feel like I'm going to take a

587
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: greater risk tomorrow than I did today because of a

588
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: foolish fear of what happen. That's been the greatest compliment.

589
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: That's amazing, because I mean, I you know, I don't

590
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: need to tell you, but it's when you hear somebody

591
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: have that kind of reaction to performance. It's one thing,

592
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, thank you for making that movie, Thank you

593
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: for telling that story. That meant a lot to me.

594
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: You know.

595
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I can only take credit to it

596
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: up to a point because somebody else wrote it and

597
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: it was a character and it was a mighty boat.

598
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: But if it's if it's your own book, it must

599
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: just be very very satisfying, gratifying. I mean, that's that's

600
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: that's a cool thing. So, Matthew, I want to bring

601
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: on Lei Claiborne, who is the director of program strategy

602
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: and community Impact for Just Keep Living Foundation, which is

603
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: based in Los Angeles, and I want to hear about

604
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: this great work that you're doing, and Matthew, how this

605
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: whole thing came together.

606
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: So fifteen eighteen something years ago, I knew I wanted to.

607
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: I was always looking for a time and the best

608
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 4: way to give back. I've been raised in a family

609
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: where we had a pretty ritual ways to give back,

610
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 4: but now it's coming into my own success. It was like,

611
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: what do I want to do. I knew I wanted

612
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: to do something to prevent, prevent before you to cure.

613
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a ten million great ways and means

614
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: to give time, philanthropy, et cetera. But I knew I

615
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: wanted to prevention for cure. So that led me to go, oh, youngsters, children,

616
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 4: And then I started studying from kindergarten on up what

617
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: are these young men and women need? And settled on

618
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: high school students because it became very clear that's the

619
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: last that's the last four years you kind of have

620
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 4: them where there's a principal, there's a parent, you've got

621
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: some responsibilities you got to take care of. As soon

622
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: as you graduate, you're on your own, you're independent, you're free.

623
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: And if you were screwing up in high school, which

624
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: you might have got a demerit for in high school,

625
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 4: you might be putting in jail for in real life

626
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: once you get out. So it was the demographic of saying, look,

627
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: this is the time to get young men and women

628
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: to if they're all on the wrong track, help me

629
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: get on the right track. If they're on the right track,

630
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: let's help them double down on that and see the

631
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: opportunity to stay on the right track for success in

632
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 4: the future. We settled in high schools. We then settle

633
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: on Title I high schools, which are the lower income

634
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: high schools that we found that needed it, that needed

635
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: some of this direction and support the most. I think

636
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: our first one leon wasn't our first one Venice in

637
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 4: la and then Hamilton, yep. And now we're in how

638
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: many schools.

639
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 5: Forty four programs fifteen cities.

640
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: Forty four to fifteen cities. So that's what we've done.

641
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: It's an after school curriculum twice a week for a

642
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 4: few hours where these young men and women voluntarily come.

643
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 4: Number One, what I did not know was an asset

644
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: of the program going in is that it's it's the

645
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: first safe place that a lot of these young men

646
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: and women have to go after school. They didn't that.

647
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: I had no idea that that would be an asset.

648
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 4: I did not even know that that was needed going

649
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: into this. The students let us know that the basis is,

650
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: there's a there's a there's a they come into set

651
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Speaker 4: goals there's a physical goal, whether that's I want to

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Speaker 4: make the soccer team next year. Right now, I cannot

653
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Speaker 4: run a quarter of a mile. Can you help me

654
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Speaker 4: get in shape try and make the soccer team, or

655
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Speaker 4: maybe proms coming up in three months. My sister and

656
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Speaker 4: I have one dress. I need to lose three pounds

657
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Speaker 4: to fit in the one prom dress by prom. All right,

658
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Speaker 4: we're going to help you meet that goal. There's nutritional goals.

659
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Speaker 4: We go talk to them and their parents. Hey, nothing

660
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: wrong with those five burgers from the fast food stop

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Speaker 4: last night. But look, let's take that same amount of

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Speaker 4: money and walk you through the supermarket in the produce section.

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Speaker 4: Some beans, maybe some meat if you want it. Spend

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Speaker 4: the same amount of money, have a healthier meal, and

665
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Speaker 4: get to cook it as a family in your own

666
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Speaker 4: kitchen together. Which we believe in that that family time

667
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Speaker 4: is really important healthy life choices physically, mentally, spiritually. Community

668
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Speaker 4: service has become a huge part of this this again,

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Speaker 4: I did not think this was going to be popular.

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Speaker 4: When we started to say, hey, let's let's let's let's

671
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Speaker 4: ask these children to give community, to give back to

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Speaker 4: their communities. I thought back to my high school years Kevin,

673
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Speaker 4: and I was like, I wasn't going to give you

674
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Speaker 4: a Saturday morning at four thirty am to go pack

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Speaker 4: for the make some some some packages for the troops,

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Speaker 4: or clean up a beach in Venice, or clean up

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Speaker 4: a highway, or go help out some elders. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: going to do that at four thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent of our students jumped on the community

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Speaker 4: service and still do today.

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Speaker 3: Now amazing.

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Speaker 4: What it is is, well, the lesson I'm getting from

683
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Speaker 4: that I think we can all give them that we

684
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: have to be reminded that everybody wants to be accountable.

685
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: Nobody really wants to free hand out. They want to go, oh,

686
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Speaker 4: put me to task, what what do you? What do

687
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: I gotta do for this? I want gives them ownership, integrity,

688
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: and the dignity. And I'm amazed at one hundred percent

689
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Speaker 4: and they still do sign.

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Speaker 3: Up for for for.

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Speaker 4: All the community service that we that we offer. So

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Speaker 4: those are those are some of the pillars. The final

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Speaker 4: pillar is gratitude, which is sort of the halo over

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Speaker 4: our foundation. The end of every curriculum, students sit around

695
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Speaker 4: and in the circle and say thank you out loud

696
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: to everybody, all their peers, in front of each other.

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Speaker 4: This is something that we practice in my family before meals.

698
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 4: So we tried it out with these young men and women,

699
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 4: and trust me, it didn't go well to start off with,

700
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: because to say thank you for something in front of

701
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: your peers in high school is not necessarily cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so cool.

703
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Speaker 4: So I remember the first time we went around in

704
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Speaker 4: the circle and I was like, got to me and

705
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: I said, really thankful this program, and no, no, no,

706
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: and the next person goes thankful to Jayuliving program. The

707
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: next person said, well, I'm thankful to Juliving program. And

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00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: then we were like okay. After a couple of weeks,

709
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: no one was really speaking up about what they were

710
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 4: thankful for. They were kind of repeating what the person

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Speaker 4: from said. And I noticed that Camille and I noticed that, oh,

712
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 4: they're taking this as like it has to be something

713
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: very serious and dramatic. And I remember it's coming up

714
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: on Halloween, I think leon and it got to me

715
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: and I was like, man, I'm thankful. I'm gonna get

716
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: some candy Saturday night. And then I went, oh yeah,

717
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: I met and we're like, yeah, you don't have to

718
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Speaker 4: be thankful for something that's like don't dout do dumk,

719
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Speaker 4: And all of a sudden they started going, well, I'm

720
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Speaker 4: thankful I got a kiss from my girlfriend last week,

721
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: and I'm thankful this, and I'm thankful I'm feeling sexy today,

722
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they started to laugh. This

723
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 4: sort of the the pressure of what you had to

724
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: share to be thankful or came off. You'd be thankful

725
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: for something that's happy and easy, and what that did

726
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 4: is led to people weeks later and now sharing real

727
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 4: things that were really hard, like my my sister got

728
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: out of the hospital, my dad got a job. And

729
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: the best reaction we've heard of this think gratitude circle

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Speaker 4: is this student say their favorite thing about is they

731
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Speaker 4: are now hearing their peers say thank you for something

732
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: that they have in their life that they've always taken

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Speaker 4: for granted and never voiced thanks for. And that is

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Speaker 4: the reciprocity of the gratitude that I love about our

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Speaker 4: gratitude circle that we have in the program.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it. I've seen it, I've watched the videos

737
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: of it in action, and it is a very very powerful,

738
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: simple yet powerful tool and leon you know, part of

739
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Speaker 3: what I'm trying to sort of highlight on this podcast

740
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Speaker 3: is is certainly the fact that there are actual famous

741
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Speaker 3: people who are trying to do something positive in the world.

742
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Speaker 3: But the other thing is the people who are behind

743
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Speaker 3: the scenes and on the ground and and and you know,

744
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: doing the the the hard work of of this on

745
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Speaker 3: a daily basis. And I'm curious from your perspective, I

746
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Speaker 3: think you said you've been was it seven and a

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Speaker 3: half years?

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Speaker 5: You've been with seven half years?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, which is a long time. What do you

750
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Speaker 3: think it was in your upbringing, or your childhood, or

751
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: just in your personality in general that drew you to

752
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: this kind of work, Because there's a lot of other

753
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Speaker 3: things that we can do other than you know, helping

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Speaker 3: other people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of stuff I love

756
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Speaker 5: to do.

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Speaker 6: But I always go back to this time I have

758
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 6: when I played Little League growing up in Ontario, California,

759
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Speaker 6: I had a chance to volunteer to help kids with

760
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Speaker 6: Down syndrome learn how to play baseball.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like eight years old, I'm like, oh, I'll

762
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Speaker 5: do a mom whatever whatever.

763
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Speaker 6: So then in that act of me teaching, like someone

764
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Speaker 6: who did it, you know, those simple fundamentals of swinging

765
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Speaker 6: a ball or running to your right the first base.

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Speaker 6: It kind of took me back a little bit, and

767
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Speaker 6: it's all and it's been something that's always kind of

768
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 6: been in me of like helping people that not necessarily

769
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Speaker 6: can do exactly what you do, but how can I

770
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Speaker 6: articulate my skill set to someone else so they can

771
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Speaker 6: do what I do? So that was kind of like

772
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Speaker 6: the leaping.

773
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Speaker 5: Point for me.

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Speaker 6: And then growing up, I was really instilleding to hip

775
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 6: hop culture and just be born rite break born with

776
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 6: is breakdances or elemented hip hop, and that's what was

777
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: my real kind of leaping path to get into teaching

778
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Speaker 6: inner city youth a skill set. So from there on

779
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: it just blew my mind and I was able to

780
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Speaker 6: teach the students how to use movement and rhythm to

781
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Speaker 6: tell stories right, and then I got leadership skills, started

782
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Speaker 6: running programs, and then twenty years later seven and a

783
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Speaker 6: half of the later years I've been with just keep Living,

784
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Speaker 6: and it's just been it's been awesome because it's always

785
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 6: been like that little bit of fire that was in

786
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Speaker 6: me at eight years old to teach kids how to

787
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Speaker 6: play baseball, to teaching someone my skill set and passion

788
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Speaker 6: for dance to turn into someone's mentor. It's just been

789
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 6: a crazy journey and it continues to give me the

790
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Speaker 6: fire too.

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

792
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Speaker 6: Everybody's always like, why do you keep doing this? You

793
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 6: know you're in the director level and saying, well, you

794
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 6: know what, When I get to go to these events

795
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Speaker 6: and get to experience students' first time experiences, that's.

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Speaker 5: What gives me the fuel.

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Speaker 6: Because there's so much work we still need to do

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Speaker 6: in the world. And if I'm able to play a

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Speaker 6: part to give them platform and have these students utilize

800
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Speaker 6: our resources, I'm all in.

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Speaker 3: I'm all in, that's amazing. Can you do they still

802
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to uh, to learn how to dance

803
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Speaker 3: for you or to learn some.

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Speaker 5: Sim you know.

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Speaker 6: Every now and then I'll pull a few tricks out

806
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 6: the bag, and I love it's a compliment, like a

807
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 6: day come days or whatever. So whenever I can't get out,

808
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: I do a crazy low hip hop dance workout. I

809
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 6: make sure I work out when we're not just teaching

810
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 6: you know, wow moves, we're actually working for it.

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Speaker 5: So it's been great.

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Speaker 4: As you know, we can have a good idea and

822
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: everyone can agree on it, but if you don't have

823
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: the commitment and enthusiasm of the people that are there

824
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 4: day to day on it, it's it's not going to work.

825
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: That's what Leon, you seven and a half years. I mean,

826
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Speaker 4: you came in and you said, it's what fuels you.

827
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Speaker 4: You you don't you're not playing a part in the

828
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Speaker 4: service that you're given with these children and with the program.

829
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's you seem to love it. You seem

830
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: to He does refuel, does seem to refuel you? Like

831
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Speaker 4: I was saying, you're not putting on it. Leon's not

832
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: putting on a different hat when he shows up to

833
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: go like okay, let's go, let's go to work. He's

834
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: always on it and you know where's that? Where does

835
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: that come from? And then secondly, I don't know what

836
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: with stories. You've been there seven a half years. Can

837
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Speaker 4: you share a story or antidote of someone who came

838
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: in as a freshman and maybe it was maybe was

839
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Speaker 4: was wobbling and went out and now seven a half

840
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Speaker 4: years later they're doing something that the program and people

841
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Speaker 4: like yourself help them get on track to do.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, man, Well, just just to answer the question

843
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 6: about fire, like, where does that come from? It's about

844
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: being a quality of service, right, There's nothing like how

845
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 6: is someone who's very passionate about something teach that to

846
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 6: you or show you that. I think that's what I

847
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 6: want to give these kids. Let them know like, hey,

848
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: I may not be your day to day instructor, and

849
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 6: I'm at this director level. I'm still here with you

850
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 6: and I can still give you a skill set and

851
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 6: still be passionate about seeing you do good. So I

852
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 6: think the students just want someone they can talk to,

853
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 6: listen to, a cheer them on, like I'm the student's

854
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 6: biggest cheerleader, you know what I mean. So, in regardless

855
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 6: of stories, oh yeah, there's one, and it will start

856
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Speaker 6: With our first program at Venice, we had a student

857
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 6: named Chris Rassinos. Oh, like, he's the ultimate jk L

858
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 6: student post a child for sure. So when he came

859
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Speaker 6: in he was a freshman. Like many they'll come for

860
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Speaker 6: like the free snack or you know, maybe they don't

861
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 6: have a gym membershi if they want to come lifts

862
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Speaker 6: of weights, and Venice is one of the.

863
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Speaker 5: Schools that has actually access to a weight room.

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Speaker 6: Not all our programs do, and that's why our curriculum

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Speaker 6: is really based on you don't have to have equipment

866
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Speaker 6: to work out, right, That's what we're really basing on.

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Speaker 6: But anyhow, you know, he would come once twice a month,

868
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Speaker 6: but he had this energy. He always was like, Hey,

869
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Speaker 6: I want to learn how to I want to learn

870
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 6: how to box, I want to learn how to do

871
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 6: more fitness. He was more focused on the fitness. So

872
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 6: the thing that I saw turned his life around was

873
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 6: he was already doing bad at school, right, but when

874
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 6: he went to this thing called campum Buntu that we

875
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 6: take all our high school kids to in Los Angeles,

876
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 6: flipped his mind, changed his mind. He really started to

877
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 6: understand what gratitude meant. He understand what like being transparent

878
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 6: man with taking risks man. And you know, it's one

879
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 6: of those things where you're either gonna rise in the

880
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 6: occasion or you're not. When you're in these camp settings,

881
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 6: right because you're amongst your peers, You're like, am I

882
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 6: gonna do this?

883
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: Am I not going to do this? What am I

884
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 5: looking at here?

885
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 6: So I would say after that first year him coming

886
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 6: going to that camp, he came back. He had a plan.

887
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 6: You know, he started to come to school more, we

888
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 6: saw more in the sessions. He started to really take

889
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 6: his fitness to a whole other level. And just to

890
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 6: fast forward a few years, his senior year, he started

891
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 6: really taking up boxing, like boxing was his thing. And

892
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 6: always when I was like, well, what is he gonna

893
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 6: do with that?

894
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 5: Like how what is he? What is he really gonna

895
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: do with that? Like it's a great skill set about

896
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 5: what is he gonna do?

897
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: And then little behold, not only did he become an

898
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 6: actual counselor at this camp that we were taking students

899
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 6: to called camp and butu so he was so at

900
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: the time when he was a counselor there, we were

901
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: already taking new students up and he was mintoring them.

902
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 6: So that was kind of like that broke the mold

903
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 6: right there for him. And then I'm like, hey, you're

904
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 6: still doing the boxing thing. He's like he made a

905
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 6: career out of it at actual his own business. So

906
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: he ended up doing classes out of us a place

907
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 6: in the West, LA where me and the whole just

908
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 6: Kipliver team we went and took his class.

909
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 5: You know, we had a support We got to support

910
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 5: our youth.

911
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: So he's doing training, training people.

912
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: He's training he's training people.

913
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing.

914
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 5: And during the pandemic he had his own business. He's

915
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 5: taking ladies out to the to the beach. Said, he's

916
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 5: doing this thing. You know, be it all COVID safe

917
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 5: at the time, doing this thing. But and he's still

918
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: so what's cool. Here, here's here's the here's the like

919
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 5: bring it all back right.

920
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: So now we hire him to go to Venice, to

921
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 6: go to these other schools around LA to teach this

922
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 6: skill set that he learned a little bit in JKL

923
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 6: just got that dedication and level of just gratitude for

924
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 6: it and shaped it into a business. And now we

925
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 6: support him and he's just like awesome. He's he's literally awesome.

926
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Speaker 6: I still talk to him. I'm texted him all the

927
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: time trying to book them more. I want to I

928
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 6: want to put more money in his pocket, you know.

929
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 6: And that's what it's about. That's what it's about. That's

930
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 6: what this program it's about. It's about seeing the good

931
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 6: in our students, giving them the resources they're helping the

932
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 6: rise to the occasion and if we're able to bring

933
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 6: it back into the fold, there's always a way for

934
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 6: us to do that.

935
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 5: So that's what we do here. Just keep living.

936
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: That's that's such I mean, these are the stories that

937
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 3: that you know, we want to hear. And and when

938
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 3: when you when something comes around, that's like a double

939
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: full circle. You know, it's it's it's it's it's a

940
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: beautiful thing to hear. Uh. I know people listening would

941
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: love to know how to help out, how to get involved,

942
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: whether there's uh donations, volunteer ship, what we're how can

943
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: they besides just googling? Just keep living? I mean, who

944
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: knows what they'll get to give us, give us a

945
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: little ways that people can get involved.

946
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean you could definitely follow us on

947
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 6: social media right at JK Livin.

948
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: But no g on the essay, No g on the

949
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: end of living.

950
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: No, G, it's a verb. Verb is at the boss

951
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 5: man says.

952
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 6: Oh, but I would definitely say volunteers. Right, So if

953
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 6: you go to our website Jklebanfoundation dot org, you can

954
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 6: send us an email there and we're always looking for volunteers.

955
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 6: You know, our programs are required to do community service

956
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: two times a semester, sometimes more. And if we have

957
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 6: some volunteers that reach out to us and they have

958
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 6: a special skill set, not only can they volunteer at

959
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 6: maybe it's a water station feeding the homeless, but if

960
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 6: they have a skill set they could bring to the table,

961
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 6: like they might be a martial arts instructor or a

962
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 6: crust then we can figure that piece out. How do

963
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 6: we bring that skill set into our program because our

964
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 6: programs have the capital to bring in professional instructors.

965
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 5: To teach a skill you know what I mean.

966
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 6: So anyone who has a skill set that loves to

967
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 6: deal with high school students, and you know, high school

968
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 6: students know if you really are about what you talk about, right,

969
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 6: they love people who come in as passionate, and if

970
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 6: you're not passionate, then our program is a probably not

971
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 6: going to be for you.

972
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 5: Because our kids really want people who live and bleed

973
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 5: what they're telling these students. Okay, and I will say internships.

974
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 6: Were always looking to, you know, collaborate with organizations who

975
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 6: can provide our students with internships. Really summer internships. We

976
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 6: don't do too many summer programs. It's more spot data

977
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 6: events that we do, so summer internships would be huge.

978
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 6: So any organizations out there listening, please send us an email,

979
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 6: let us say what you do. We'll get all set

980
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 6: up and I'll see if there's a fit for us.

981
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 6: So for sure, volunteers, any city will do a volunteer

982
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: meeting and keep you in the loop on some things

983
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 6: that may be happening. And then any organizations that want

984
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 6: to partner and provide internships for or just keep living students.

985
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 5: So that's a few ways.

986
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: If there's also people out there, A lot of people

987
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 4: have come to us that go, I have a school

988
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 4: in my community that could use this curriculum and I

989
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 4: want to sponsor it or I'd like to partner with

990
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 4: y'all to sponsor it. We are open to that. If

991
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: you're anyone out there listening or watching that says, you know,

992
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 4: when I got a school in my backyard or near

993
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: that could use this kind of counts from curriculum.

994
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: Let us know.

995
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 4: We we are open to working in partnering with other

996
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: people too, and businesses to go. Yep, it's uh, what's

997
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 4: it run a semester thirty.

998
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: Thirty well, thirty K for the whole year, thirty.

999
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 4: K for the whole year, which is a basically paying

1000
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: for that teacher on the ground. Every school curriculum has

1001
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 4: a teacher on the ground in that school that is

1002
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: sort of our all star that Leon and the rest

1003
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 4: of the staff check in on and sort of, uh,

1004
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 4: make sure that you know we're fulfilling the mission statement

1005
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: within that school, but also also customizing it to what

1006
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: that school needs.

1007
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: Yep, that's amazing. That's amazing. So it's a it's a

1008
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: it's a it's it's a package that you guys have

1009
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: developed that can be put into use in anywhere. I

1010
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: mean right now you're in Los Angeles, right in in

1011
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: southern California, but we're in thirteen thirteen states.

1012
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 5: We're everywhere.

1013
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 6: New York, we're in Nashville, were in.

1014
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: We started in l Yeah, sorry, right, it's it's you.

1015
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: It's it's awesome. It's such a great thing that you

1016
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 3: guys are doing. I thank you so much for coming

1017
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: on this podcast and sharing it today and for your

1018
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: time the amazing Matthew McConaughey and Leon Claiborne. The organization

1019
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: is Just Keep Living and check it out and volunteer, donate.

1020
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: These guys are making a difference. So thanks for being here, Fellas.

1021
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 4: Kevin, thanks for having us, thanks for chatting with us

1022
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 4: and getting you give it a space talk about it.

1023
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 3: It's been fun.

1024
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thanks for listening to another episode of Six Degrees.

1026
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: And if you want to learn more about Just Keep

1027
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: Living and all the good work they're up to, head

1028
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: to their website at Jklivinfoundation dot org. You can find

1029
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: the links in our show notes, and if you like

1030
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 2: what you're here, make sure you subscribe to the show

1031
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: and tune in to the rest of our episodes. You

1032
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: can find six Degrees wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time.