1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, here we go spreading the corn. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: Ten seconds of adis the just go show. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: Under the basket, Under the basket, It's the true for 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: the wind God they go Amarracle, I just up the water. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Hit that one from the parking lot. 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: Shuck it all. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: It's codge basketball. 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: It's not the size on the dog in the fight. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: It's the size of the fight in the dog. What's 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: up the general nation? Welcome to Big Bets on Campus Podcast. 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: This is the NCAA Tournament Round one betting Preview, Part one. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna cover the South and the West today. I'm 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Stucky and joining me today to preview those regions. First up, 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: just a Jim Root. We're gonna go through the entire South. 16 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna go to every game, some couple of seconds, 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: some a little more in depth, and then we'll talk 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: about who we see coming through to help out with 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: your bracket and potential futures. And then later in the show, 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: BJ Cunning and we'll join me and we'll talk some West. 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: So Jim, we're recording this on Tuesday night, so we 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: won't have every game. Right. It's before the Rutgers that 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: are day playing. But how are you doing overall? And 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: are you looking at your window at night seeing if 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: San is on his way? 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I am. 27 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: My brain is close to mush right now, just having 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: written and talked about these games. 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna bring it. I got it for this one. 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 4: More pod here, Stucky, We're gonna we're gonna hammer these out. 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: I love the South region. I'm a big fan of 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: a lot of the teams in it, so it makes 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 4: for a lot of fun matchups to discuss some potential 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: matchups down the line. I think it's my favorite region. 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: So I'm glad it's the one that I have got 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: to preview with you here. It's gonna be a good one. 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: Well, you did get first choice because you did the 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: initial bracket reaction for me on something. I appreciate you 39 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: for that, and uh yeah, I will bring it as well. 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: Got a couple more hours after this, and I know 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: you've had three man we'd stuff. So it's just the 42 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: good thing is it's like when I'm not doing any 43 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: of the stuff of just staring at lines and looking 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: at these matchups, so it's also nice to kind of 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: push the time along, just get me to get me 46 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: to twelve oh seven on Thursday, not eleven, because that 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: hour between eleven and twelve when all the lines are 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: bouncing all over the place and late movement, Uh that 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: hour does it feels like it's like three? But I digress. 50 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. The South Region. Arizona is the 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: number one overall seed in this region. The two seed 52 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: Villanova Wildcats have obviously had a lot of tournament success 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: under Jay Wright. The three is Tennessee could have argued 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: they should have been a two after winning the SEC 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: tournament Illinois to four. This is there's some and then 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, since the five, it's a pretty loaded field 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: at the top. You don't you're not like, all right, 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: well here's a pretty Week three or pretty Week two. 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: I know you're a big fan of Arizona. They don't 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: seem to have any real inherent weaknesses. We'll start broad 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 2: are they coming out of here? Who's a threat to them? 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Does crease as injury matter much to you? What say you? 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: On the We'll start at the top. I think to 64 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: the top region Arizona through Chattanooga. Do they come through 65 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 2: to the Elite eight and if not, who can potentially 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: pick them off? 67 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have Arizona getting through there, but it's I 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: don't think it's any walk in the park for them. 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 4: The crease of injury changes how they have to play 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: a little bit. 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: I think they don't get. 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: The same kind of swagger from him, the same shot 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: making from the point guard spot justin Kyer is solid. Pela, 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: Larson and Dale and Terry have some playmaking chops, but 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: they're not true point guards and it just crease and 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: brings something intangible to that team. So they lacking that 77 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: is a little bit tough. But I was impressed with 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: them against. 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: He can also like kind of implode though, right like. 80 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 4: Work against I believe he was over fourteen on the 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: road at UCLA, maybe over twelve, Like he did not 82 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: hit a single field goal in that game and they lost. 83 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: But I do I find the five and the four 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: very strong here. Obviously, analytical rankings love Houston Illinois. I 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: think has a lot of the pieces necessary to make 86 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: a run with a great big man, some great guards. 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: I liked. 88 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: The lower seeded teams UAB and Chattanooga were ones I 89 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: was targeting before the reveal, So I actually find this 90 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: region to be quite loaded. Basically, if you took anybody 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: one through five from the South and swap them with 92 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: their counterpart in the Midwest, I would take that team 93 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: to make the final four in the Midwest. 94 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: Like if you put Houston as the five down their 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: final four. 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: For me, if you put Illinois, Tennessee, Bllanova down there, 97 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: I would take them. So I find this region very 98 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: difficult to predict because there are a lot of strong teams. 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 4: But Arizona still is the one I am sticking by. 100 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched UAP like U year Chattanooga, could they 101 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: have gotten like some any other four or five seats. 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about those games briefly. We'll skip over 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: Arizona winner of a Right State and Bran. If Arizona 104 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: plays Bryant, by the way, I don't think Brian knows 105 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: how to play any other way then, and Right State 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: plays fast to but Brian, it's just speed. Rays are 107 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: gonna try to press and so that I think Brian 108 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: earlier this year lost one hundred and eleven to forty 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: four to Houston, that one could get out of. 110 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: Hand Arizona by forty plus. I genuinely think that is 111 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 4: just a complete shill acting. 112 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Arizona has the psychic safety project, the chalk going 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: through and it's Illinois. Arizona has the size inside to 114 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: deal with COVERD for sure. All right, so let's just 115 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: move down Seaton Hall TCU. That's a brawl, a men's game, 116 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: just two teams that are gonna try to live on 117 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: the glass. I have TCU advancing there. I like them 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm gonna bet them not nothing, not 119 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: a huge bets. I think it's just gonna be a grinder. 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: So it's I don't think any team's really gonna pull 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: away from the other. I think Miles is the difference. 122 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: The backcourt injuries from Hall catch up to them. I 123 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: think it'll be nice for tc to get out of 124 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: the Big twelve as well. It's a team that doesn't 125 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: really shoot a lot of threes, doesn't shoot them well. 126 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: Playing in that conference with all the no middle teams 127 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: is not great. I'm watching Oklahoma Missouri State now with 128 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: which looks like it's gonna be first to one hundred. 129 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Oklahola looks like they were extremely pleased. The guy with 130 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: the big tweve any thoughts on Seat Hall TCU, Well. 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: That spooks me from my strongest lean here, which would 132 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: be the under. I do think it's going to be 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: a brawl, like you said, but yeah, I think both 134 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: teams are so strong defensively, especially at the rim. Seaton 135 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: Hall is incredible at the rim. Their defense when Obiagu 136 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: on the floor is on the floor is lights out inside. 137 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: But the TCU offensive rebounding edge is big to me. 138 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 4: They're number one in the country and rebound rate on 139 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: the offensive end of surprise they were ahead of Houston 140 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: and then Seaton Hall's kind of dicey on the defensive glass, 141 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 4: especially in a league in the Big East where I 142 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: don't picture it is stacked with monster offensive rebounds, so 143 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: I think TCU has a big edge there. And like 144 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 4: you said, Miles best playmaker on the floor, best creator 145 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: in the backcourt. With Bryce Akin out for Seaton Hall, 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: so yep, I'm leaning to see you and the under. 147 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: Let's move on to the five twelve Houston UAB. UAB 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: of course has one of the most electric players in 149 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: the field, and Jelly Walker, if you haven't seen him, 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: plays capable of going for forty any give a night, 151 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: so if he's on, if he's hitting just three after three, 152 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: UAB can certainly win this game. But Houston's not the 153 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: best matchup for them, however, digg it unto this matchup, 154 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: curious to get your thoughts on this. UAB will press 155 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: and they will pressure, and I think they're one of 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: the five heaviest press teams in the field. They'll extend pressure. 157 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: They want to play faster. Houston doesn't have a lot 158 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: of depth and they struggled in a couple matchups with 159 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: Memphisis pressure is that an avenue for success for UAB 160 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: or does this game just basically come down to Walker 161 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: need to go nuts because Houston's gonna grab most of 162 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: the rebounds and their length could give UAB some trouble 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: this game. I'll keep going back and forth on especially 164 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: from a spread perspective, I think Houston's sitting right around 165 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: an eight point favorite. What are your thoughts here? 166 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gone back and forth as well. 167 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think these are both maybe the strongest 168 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: at least especially per metrics. These are the strongest teams 169 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: at their particular seed line. Like if UAB was against 170 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 4: any other five seed, they might be like a two 171 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: point dog or something. But Houston is so well thought 172 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: of in metrics that it's eight. I viewed these teams 173 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: very similarly. Like I think they kind of have a 174 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: hard hat, lunch pale identity. 175 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: They get after it on the glass. 176 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: Houston's just better at that identity. The pressure you mentioned, 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: I think is the route for you ab to compete, 178 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: and it's going to take a while. They might have 179 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: to wear them down over time. They only have Houston 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: really only has like two and a half ball handlers 181 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: on the entire squad. So you wear down, you get 182 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: into their legs. Maybe you make a run in the 183 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: second half and then yeah, Jelly's got to go bonkers. 184 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: She's got to be pulling up from thirty as he does. 185 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter how much times on the shot clock, he 186 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: will fire away. But Houston's got length to throw at him. 187 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: I think Tajaimore is a great, great matchup to bother 188 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: him with. So yeah, I'm leaning towards Houston. It's a 189 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: fairly big number for two teams I respect, but I'm 190 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: picking Houston to advance and lean to their way. 191 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: On the spread, Illinois Chattanooga another game with the spread 192 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: right in the same neighborhood as Houston. UAB Well this 193 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: matchup first came out, I said, Wow, the Chattanooga is 194 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: they're a rare mid major as a piece inside. In Desuso, 195 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: the former Kansas transfer, I'm sure that a lot of 196 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: you are more casual basketball bads. You might remember him from. 197 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: There was like a chair incident with under against Kansas 198 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: Kansas State and it was just a complete chaos. But 199 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: he transfer with the Chattanooga. He missed some time, but 200 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: he's back now healthy. They have some other size too. 201 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you watch this game, chat Uga, it's not 202 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: going to be like you know when last year. If 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: you think of Colgate Arkansas where you're like, wow, Colgate 204 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: looks like it's kind of like the Jersey game, Like 205 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: you're a small high school when you go out and 206 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: play a really big high school that has three times 207 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: the kids and you're like, man, this team looks so 208 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: much better. It's not gonna be like that. Chattanooga has 209 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: got has, you know, high major athleticism. Malchi Smith's an 210 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: incredible guard, he can get red hot. You got a 211 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: John Batist who's been there for their point guard. He's 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: been there for a five six years, really experienced point 213 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: running the show. But they have bodies to throw at Coburn. 214 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Can Chattanooga pull off this upset is their value with 215 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 2: the dog. 216 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: Here this one. This one was weird for me. I'm 217 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: curious where you ended up on the spread too. Chattanooga team. 218 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: I was looking the back coming in because I thought 219 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: they had some giant killer formula with the size they 220 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 4: rebound the ball. They don't really turn it over. They 221 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 4: have big time scores in the backcourt. It's just weird 222 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: matchup wise, because you want to put Kofey Coburn in 223 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: ball screens and move him around on the perimeter, make 224 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: him play in space. That's how Loyola really took advantage 225 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: of Illinois last year, and that's not in Chattanooga's normal DNA. 226 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: They are more of like a off ball motion some 227 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: swing elements Lamont Parish. Their coach is coming over from Wisconsin, 228 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: so I don't know if they from a matchup sense, 229 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 4: have the exact makeup to compete here. I just think 230 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: they're good enough to on a straight talent level coaching 231 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: level to where seven and a half feels a little 232 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: high to me, and I lean towards the Knox on 233 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: the spread. 234 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would lean the box as well. Their pick 235 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: and roll defense is a bit of a concern for 236 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: me on the perimeter. They don't grade out well, which 237 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: could be problematic from a matchup perspective, Like I think 238 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 2: Malchi Smith can give his size and his shooting ability 239 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: can give Illinois some issues. But then again, Illinois does 240 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: a tremendous job of taking away the three, which I 241 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: think Chattanooga's gonna need here. But yeah, I don't. It's 242 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: not the exact and have a team that you would 243 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: want to upset Illinois. So I think shots are gonna 244 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: have to fall for Chattanooga and that's a strength of 245 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: Illinois in their three point defense. But you're right, they 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: want to like feed the post, they want to swing it. 247 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, I keep going back and forth. I think 248 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: the spread is a little high, so I might end 249 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: up with you know, this is the time of your look. 250 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: Spreads are really efficient, and they're getting more efficient. I 251 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 2: remember a man back in the day opening night. I'm 252 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: sitting there like, Wow, there's not many There's not a 253 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: ton of games that are way off like you would have. 254 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: You know, some of these dogs now in like five 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: twelve matchups, four thirteen. They used to be mispriced, but 256 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: now you have so many analytical sites out there. Ken 257 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: Palm obviously started that that bookmakers aren't caught with their 258 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 2: pants down as much, and the line just keep getting 259 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: more and more efficient. So I think a lot of 260 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: times there's not going to be a ton of games 261 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: where I'm like, this is a huge edge anymore. So 262 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: a lot of times it comes down to matchups, which 263 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, and then sometimes I'll throw 264 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: a small bedding because I like a dog, just for entertainment. 265 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: It's that time of year, so I might end up 266 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 2: throwing something small on Chattanooga just for some entertainment value. 267 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: But I don't think the spread is wildly. 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 3: Off right, I would agree there. 269 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can just kind of tell from the lack 270 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: of movement from openers, Like clearly the openers have been 271 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: kind of sharp because you don't see ones going from 272 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: like two up to five or fifteen down to twelve 273 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 4: like that. The openers were pretty good, and I was 274 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: bummed because I was hoping to get ahead of some 275 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: of the movement, but there's just not much of it 276 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: out there. 277 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a tiny, tiny amount. I mean, you 278 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: can't really give up to seven on these very initial openers. 279 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: On Georgia State plus twenty seven, that was one that 280 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: opened twenty three with the twenty seven within a minute, 281 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: and then down to twenty five, then down to twenty four. 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, not on of movies. You'll see them in 283 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: totals and a lot of times towards the under but 284 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: more so now than sides. But yeah, the market is 285 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: certainly much more efficient, which means and be ready for this. 286 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: Just be ready for variants and hope it's on your side. 287 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Says lines are more efficient. That means three point variants 288 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: late falve, it's just gonna come into play more often. 289 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: So you gotta hope the three point variants on your side. 290 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: And uh, free throws you're gonna have last two minutes 291 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: thous are in the tournament, so just be ready and 292 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: know that you're gonna take some bad beat lumps and 293 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: just move on to the next and enjoy the tournament, 294 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: all right, So I would agree, I have the Arizona 295 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: also coming out. I think that they have the easiest path, 296 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: and then there's also you know a chance for chaos 297 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: like jelly Walker gets hot, you know, chat Newisi, So 298 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: like the four and five, I think are much more vulnerable. 299 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: So it wouldn't shock me to see, you know, surprise 300 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: sweet sixteen year. But I think Arizona is the class 301 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: noveral weaknesses. I mean, if you're if you're drawing up 302 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: a team that you'd want to face Arizona. Is it 303 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: a team that that zones, that's gonna use zone. Is 304 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: it a team that it is just going to ensure 305 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: that they completely you know, make sure the game crawls 306 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: to a stop and is slow in a half court 307 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: and they're going to control the pace. Is it like 308 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: a you know, a Villanova where So I was trying 309 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: to think of, like, who is the team I would 310 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: want if I was drawing up the ideal opponent if 311 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to bet against Arizona. It doesn't have to 312 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: be a specific team, but just stylistic wise, what would 313 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: you kind of draw up there? 314 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: I think the tempo parts Big Ucla kept him in 315 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 4: the half court, Tennessee kept him in the half court. 316 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 4: I think those were you know, if they get in transition, 317 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: they are so lethal because they're big, they're athletic, they're mobile. 318 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: Even their big guys are really mobile. To Bellis, it's 319 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: like shockingly mobile when you see him play, and then 320 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of pressure. I've been concerned with 321 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: their turnover issues and impact twelve play their tent in 322 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: the league in turnover rate, and that not even always 323 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: against teams with a ton of pressure. 324 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: So like if UA B gets through there. 325 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: And they have Kwan Jackson harassing Dale and terror justin 326 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: Kier with creases still out, I could see them being 327 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: a very feisty underdog because they could get some easy 328 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: buckets off steals. But yeah, the half court thing I 329 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: think is the biggest part. It's the same with Gonzaga, 330 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: Like they're very similar. Don't let those teams run, would you? 331 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: Zone Zona? 332 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: I would try. I think their ball movement is good 333 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: enough to beat some zones. 334 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: If you're just not if you're just doing it because 335 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: you want to try Zone you haven't practiced it, you're 336 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: probably not gonna. 337 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: Be good enough in rotation. 338 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: But forcing them to shoot over the top, not letting 339 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: them do the high low stuff where two dollars and 340 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: Colloco can seal, I think you got to keep them 341 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: out of that too. 342 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem with you're trying to pick the eight 343 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: nine seed upset here, Like if you're really confident seen artist, 344 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: you against Arizona, Like those teams want to live on 345 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: the glass and like inside, and Arizona has a lot 346 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: of side It's hard to see either one of those 347 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: teams out scoring Arizona. So I don't have that on 348 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: my radars. And the potentially eight nine ups that would 349 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: you agree? 350 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't even consider it. Put Arizona right into 351 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: the sweet sixteenth. 352 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to the bottom half of the 353 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: South Region from if you're looking at your bracket, Colorado 354 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: State on down to Delaware. Villanova is a two seed 355 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: down here, the favorite to come out, but Tennessee would 356 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: obviously be a formal opponent. If the chalk holds high level, 357 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: who do you have coming out of here? And why 358 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: I waffled a lot. 359 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: I went back and forth between the balls and Villanova, 360 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 4: and then I ended up just kind of looping back 361 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 4: to the game that they played early in the season. 362 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: Villanova pulled them apart, Elden. 363 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: The fifty three points made Tennessee play in the half court, 364 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 4: took away the three point line, or at least quality 365 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: three point looks. And I know Tennessee is much better 366 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: than they were then. I'm sure Valls fans would be 367 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: screaming at me for that. They were young. They're playing 368 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: a lot of young guards. Ziegeler was not even in 369 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: a big role. Then He's playing seven minutes in that game. 370 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: So it's a different team. But I still think Villanova 371 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: can frustrate them in the same way. Granted, there are 372 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: possibilities for upsets, and we'll mention a couple that I 373 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 4: think are actually worth considering. But I do have chalk 374 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 4: holding Villanova over Tennessee. To get to the early day, 375 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: where'd you land on it? 376 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: I was trying to think of how much stock I 377 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: should put into that game earlier in the season when 378 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: Villanova just dominated Tennessee. But a lot of times, I 379 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: just if you were thinking about that, I throw out 380 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: a lot of those games between you know, high major 381 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Top twenty teams that happened in early November. There's a 382 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: lot of new pieces that teams changed a lot, and 383 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: I think at the time Villanova was much more of 384 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: a known commodity. That was when Tennessee had yet to 385 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: figure out their offense, right this is that was when 386 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: I thought of Tennessee as, oh man, this is the 387 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: same team, great defense, and they're going to go through 388 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: extreme droughts and that's going to be their downfall. They 389 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: ended up making some changes offensively and credit the Barnes. 390 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: And now that's maybe their strength of their team is 391 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: their perimeter on the offense. So they're completely different teams here. 392 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: I look, so I was looking at our who do 393 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: I think has a better chance of getting upset between 394 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: Villanova and Tennessee, And I'm just not a I think 395 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: Ohio State is fading and if Loyal Chicago gets by, 396 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean, like, that's Villanova's comfortable playing that game. Like 397 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 2: one of the advantages of Loyal Chicago, we'll get to them, 398 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: is that they make you uncomfortable with Nova's is comfortable there. 399 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 2: So I think Tennessee has more land mines than Villanova, 400 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: and I think maybe the difference in the Villanova versus 401 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: Tennessee game Colin Gillespie back downs against those smaller Tennessee guards. Yeah, 402 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: that might end up being the X factor. So I'll 403 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: roll with Jay Wright coming through to the Elite eight 404 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: to face Arizona boring, I know, but we will have 405 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: some of the other regions. I have a lot more 406 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: upsets and lower seeds going through. But let's talk about 407 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: some of these games. Colorado State Michigan another game where 408 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: I go back and for worth on this one because 409 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: I think both offenses have some legit advantages here Hunter Dickinson, 410 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: how can Colorado State contain him? Right, Like, that's a 411 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: weakness of Colorado State that they're not the biggest team. 412 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: And how's Michigan gonna handle covering David Roddy? Can Colorado 413 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: State run? You know they're gonna run a lot more 414 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: pick and roll action at the top, but I think 415 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: Michigan can be a little susceptible to that. So I 416 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: keep going back and forth. If I had to, As 417 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: of right now, I'll take the points in Colorado State 418 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: and again that I think will be competitive throughout. Is 419 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: Dickinson just the X factor? When Michigan needs a bucket, 420 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: they're gonna get it. Can diabate or some of the 421 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: length on Michigan? Can they contain Roddy? I'm sure they 422 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: might try a couple of different guys, And I don't 423 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: think they're gonna try to put Dickinson on him because 424 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: Dickinson can't stay with him laterally at the top. So 425 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: be curious to see how Michigan decides to guard and 426 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: then how Colorado State decides the guard. Like it's gonna 427 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: be like, what are these rotations going to look like 428 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: I think that's going to matter. Fascinating game. What do 429 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: you say? 430 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Colorado State's best lineup in a vacuum 431 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: like not not considering opponent here is when they go 432 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: David Roddy at the five, Tanja at the four, and 433 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: then three guards and that they can really spread teams 434 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: out that way. But it's super vulnerable inside, so Roddy 435 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 4: would probably banging with Dickinson in there, but then I. 436 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: Have anywhere foul trouble there if that happens. 437 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: To exactly, he's got to play straight up and not 438 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: take fouls. But I have no idea how Michigan stops 439 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: that lineup on the other end, because if Roddy's pulling him, 440 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 4: pulling Dickinson away from the basket, or you put Dickinson 441 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: on Tanja or something like that, that's not going to work. 442 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: Which is why I circle back to you said the offenses. 443 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: I think they. 444 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: Both have clear routes to points. I don't know exactly 445 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 4: what tempo where the land here, but I think the 446 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: efficiency is enough to make me like the over one 447 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: and a half or so, So I'm leaning that way, 448 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: and I'm same same way with you as spread. It 449 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: feels close to a coin flip. So if I had 450 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: to take it, it'd be give me the points. 451 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, depending on how Colorado State sidspis if they go 452 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: small ball, so it's like, all right, are you sacrificing 453 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: offensive defense? Depends on I'm not sure what Medven's gonna do. 454 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: I think he's a great coach, But if they go 455 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 2: small ball, I think this is over city. Like it's 456 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: it's Dickinson Dickson. Were had an incredible advantage anyway, but 457 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: if Roddy's on him, Roddy's gonna be Okay, I need 458 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: I need to be on offense. Yeah, light up right, 459 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: Like that's layups for Michigan, and I think Colorado State 460 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: will have plenty of opportunities to exploit. 461 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 462 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 4: They should have to double him like crazy, like double 463 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 4: and rotate every time Dickinson touches it, like on the touch, 464 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: on the catch, send a second defender. 465 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it feels like there's just going to be 466 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: a ton of open threes in that game, depending on 467 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: on the matchups. All right, let's move on to the 468 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: winner of Colorado State. Michigan will take on the winner 469 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: of Tennessee and Longwood, Tennessee fresh off and tournament championship, 470 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: and Longwood once man, there's been so many games, and 471 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: I think they feel like the long last time Longwood 472 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: played was a month ago, but they won't get that 473 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: incredible Big South tournament. Really, Like when I first looked 474 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: at this matchup, when I'm looking at as straight up 475 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: up set, I don't think Longwood really has a chance 476 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: because I think that Longwood's overseeded, his team that got 477 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: really fortunate in a lot of close games, and then Tennessee, 478 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: I think is underseated. Like you could argue that Tennis 479 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: is too Longwood for me. I mean, I think I 480 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: have Georgia State powered higher than Longwood and long Longwood's 481 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: a fourteen and Georgia State's a sixteen. Look, but Longwood 482 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 2: has shooters, and that's what you want to hang around 483 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: in games like this when you're talking a mid major 484 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: versus a power conference team. They can shoot the three, 485 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: They get great shots, and they make shots, and they 486 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: have big guards and Tennessee has smaller guards. I don't 487 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: think that Longwood is going to have trouble getting shots off. 488 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: Now if the Tennessee voodoo from last week in the 489 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: SEC tournament continues as long it's cooked. If you know, 490 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: everyone goes one of thirty from three against Tennessee. But 491 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: maybe there's some progression the other way. That's that's due 492 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: for the voals. So I don't think there's much risk 493 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: of an upset here. Three fourteen. Who was in the 494 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: Big South that was win Maybe winterro Winter. I think 495 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: they were. All these conferences changed so much, but I 496 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: think winterpin a three fourteen. I think the spread was 497 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: like three back in like twenty fifteen, and Tennessee won 498 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: at the buzzer on a Chris Lofton incredible three. Do 499 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: you remember that game? 500 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: I do. 501 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like right in the corner coffin corner, fade 502 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 4: away shot by Lofton. 503 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: That was a wild game. That might was that That 504 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: might have been two fifteen rather than three three fourteen. 505 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: I gotta look it up now we're. 506 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: We did this to ourselves. 507 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the year I won a big bracket pool. 508 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: I had I had Winter putting that game, I would 509 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: have go to the sweet sixteen. I also had Northwestern 510 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: State beating Iowa, and I somehow got three of the 511 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 2: four final fourteens. Obviously didn't have George Mason just a 512 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 2: bit Bob Bonker's Final four. The no top seeds made 513 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: it to the final four. 514 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: In two thousand and six, right, I think that's what 515 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, sixty three sixty one Tennessee two seed 516 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: Tennessee over fifteen Winthrop, Tarrell Martin, great. 517 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: Craig Bradshaw. Yeah. 518 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: Man, this this winter team was awesome. We are down 519 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 4: the rabbit hole, but man, it's a great rabbit hole. 520 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm looking by the way I'm looking at as 521 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull this up, not this region, but Providence, 522 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: South Dakota State obviously really small spread, four thirteen. Small spread. Ever, 523 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: if this hold doesn't go to three Vandy Mary State 524 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: twenty ten, Vandy was minus two and a half as 525 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: a four seed, I believe Vandy lost. I think I 526 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 2: want to say Dayton Tulsa two thousand and three. Those 527 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: the only other one in the last twenty years. I 528 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: think s Eyton won and didn't cover for where there's 529 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: two are a meeting of sample size? Do you have 530 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: the seeds there? That's all I want to know. 531 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was two fifteen. 532 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: It was two fifteen. There's no way the spread was then. 533 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: Could it have been I feel like the spread was 534 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: super low. It definitely wasn't. I don't know. We'll look 535 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: this up all the time back to this game. So 536 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: do you agree Tennessee's not at risk of an upset 537 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 2: here or do you think that long It could be 538 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: feisty enough? And then do you think that Longwood's guards 539 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: and three points shooting are enough to stay within this number, 540 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: because I tend to think that's the case. 541 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: Yep. I like the dog. 542 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 4: As far as actually being live and potentially winning, that's 543 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: that's maybe a bridge too far unless they're scalding like 544 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: sixty percent from deep. But I do think, like you said, 545 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: the power guards they have that, like all all three 546 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: of their guards look like linebackers. They're like two hundred, 547 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty pounds. Isaiah Wilkins played for two 548 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 4: different ACC schools. Now he's on Longwood shooting forty seven 549 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: percent from deep. They rebound well for their league. That 550 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: might not translate against an SEC team, but I think 551 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: they're super well coached. Griffaldrich and then Rick Barnes is 552 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: really struggling in the tournament, well documented against the spread. 553 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: I think he's like one in five against the numbers. 554 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: Since he got to Tennessee and it dates back even 555 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: further to his Texas days. So yeah, I'm Longwood plus 556 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: seventeen would be a bet for me here. 557 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to the bottom half of 558 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: the bottom half of the South. Ohio State the seventh seed. 559 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: These game two games will be in Pittsburgh, Ohio State 560 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: Loyol Chicago and Villanova Delaware. Ohio State Loyol Chicago. I've 561 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: spread right around a pick. I've gone back and forth 562 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: on but I think that I've settled on the Loyl 563 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: of Chicago. I mean, Ohio State's just trending in the 564 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: wrong direction, whereas Loyel Chicago got a little healthier and 565 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 2: then really turned it on in the Valley Tournament late. 566 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: I think Williamson, who's one of the best defenders in 567 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: the entire country, can lock up Brandham Liddell. I think 568 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 2: they have enough bodies to throw at him. The Ohio 569 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: State defense has major questions, especially with Brandam. I mean 570 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: maybe they just need to be locked in here. Ohio 571 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: State losses that. I believe a two seed last year 572 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: after Hopeing had a lot of success in the first round. 573 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: I think Loyla Chicago is going to make this game uncomfortable, 574 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: and they're gonna get enough stops and have enough quality 575 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: defenders to stop Ohio State, who's also not fully healthy, 576 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: which I think really put me over the top here. 577 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: Do you agree? 578 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 3: Yep, one hundred percent. 579 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: He has an ankle issue, Kyle Young has a concussion. 580 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 4: One or both might play, but I kind of think 581 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: Young will be out. I think he'll be limited. And yeah, 582 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: Williamson's the back to back defensive player of the year 583 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: in the Valley. I mean, what a perfect defender to 584 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: throw at Brandham and Marquise Kennedy came back for loyal 585 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: Chicago in the Missouri Valley Tournament. Yeah, and it's just 586 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: like he takes them to a different gear. Like the 587 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: performances without him. They went five and three straight up, 588 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: and then he came back and they won, not comfortably, 589 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: but they won all three games by more than one 590 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 4: possession in the Valley Tournament. 591 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: I think he just takes a to a different gear. 592 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: And there right now, with the way State's playing, the 593 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: Royal is the better team Villanova Delaware. 594 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: This is a good storyline game. If you're like the 595 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: announcer for this game, you have Martin Ingles be the 596 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: head coach of Delaware, playing his dad's alma mater, Villanova 597 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: gives in Pittsburgh. As I mentioned, his dad was an 598 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: absolute legend with the Carnival Harrow. My dad went to 599 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: high school outside of Philly and then went to Villanova 600 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: and was a great basketball player, played in the NBA 601 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: for a bit too. And then doan paynter, who is 602 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: Villanova transfer going back to play his old team, who's 603 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: now a center on Delaware? When I look at this matchup, 604 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: like Delare won't be overwhelmed athletically in this game. They 605 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: are a team that you know, I think before the season, 606 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: if you looked at this roster, you're like, all right, 607 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: this team is gonna have a shot to win the Colonial. 608 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 2: And they you know, they struggled for at times, but 609 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: they really came on towards the end of the year. 610 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: You saw flashes. And the main thing is that the 611 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: development of Giant Davis down Low. I mean, he's just 612 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: played incredible takes them to another level. Nova's tough, though, 613 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: and they're seasoned, and they're toothache to play. Do you 614 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: know maybe this size of Delaware could potentially give Villanova 615 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: some issues. Can the Blue Hens hang in this game? 616 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm torn. The spread feels about right to me. 617 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: I mean Villanova, because they play so slowly, they can 618 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 4: be susceptible to upsets if they're cold. 619 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: But then I also I think it's worth. 620 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: They shoot a lot of threes. They give up a 621 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: ton of three their top twenty five in both three 622 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: point three pointers attempted and then three pointers allowed rate wise, 623 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: the problem is they usually make all the threes, and 624 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: then other teams aren't making threes against them. 625 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: Speaking of not making threes against them, Delaware in their 626 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: tournament run the three games they won the CIA, their 627 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 4: opponent shot nineteen percent from beyond the arc, So I 628 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: think there's maybe some regression coming. Villanova all so was 629 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: poor in the Biggiest tournament final with their perimeter shooting. 630 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 4: Uh So, I'm leaning to Nova, but Delaware does have 631 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: some matchup edges Like Davis, I think even though Samuels 632 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: and Slater could be solid matchups for him, I think 633 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: he'll get his He's just been so so good down 634 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 4: the stretch. 635 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: This This one was a tough one for me. One 636 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: of the toughest ones in the region. 637 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: Ye Andrew carr By the way has played well down 638 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: the stretch too, so Delaar does have some size here. 639 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 2: I think it'll come down to their guards, like they 640 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: need to make shots. The guard to really hit or miss, 641 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: you know, but they're gonna need like Jamie or Nelson Junior, 642 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: Ryan Allen, you know, awesome O. They're gonna need to 643 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: hit shots, I think. But feels right. I think given 644 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: the tempo, I don't think that was really at risk 645 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: of an upside you but given the tempo, you have 646 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: to pick this for like a pool, I'd lean Delaware. 647 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: All right, So let's finish this up. I think, did 648 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: you went with Llanova over Tennessee? 649 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 3: I did after much deliberation. 650 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: Yep, I'd say so. Villanova Arizona matching up in the 651 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: Elite eight consensus there who wins? 652 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm going Wildcats. I actually was once a good point, 653 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: you're not going limb there. Yeah, that's true. While you 654 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 4: caught me Arizona. I'm taking Arizona the Boys of Tucson. 655 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: I saw him live a couple of times this year. 656 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: Was mega impressed. If Cresa was healthy, I actually think 657 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 4: they'd be my national title pick. But I'm I'm sour 658 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: enough that i think I'll probably have them come up 659 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: just short, but I still think they will get to 660 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: the final four. I believe in the bigs, the system 661 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: that Tommy Lloyd's installed, and Matherin and Terror in the wing. 662 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: So yep, I'll go Arizona to the final four. 663 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Arizona my Final four as well, but 664 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 2: thought about this one because I mean, Novah's gonna really 665 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: slow this one down, really seasoned team. But I think 666 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: that Arizona's overall talent gets it done. It's not just 667 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: there's so many ways that Arizona could beat you and U. Yeah, 668 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: I think Arizona ances on to the final four. If 669 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: someone last question for you, Jim, if someone was looking 670 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: for another team, so not to go chalk and that 671 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: is a way that you know you're either right or 672 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 2: you want to pick. I think a lot of times 673 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: you want to pick one team that makes a deep run, 674 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: maybe not to the final four, but that maybe not 675 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: a lot of other people have, And that's how you 676 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: can really differentiate yourself. If someone wanted to take that 677 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: shot in the South, I think there's better regions to 678 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: do it myself, and we'll talk about them on the 679 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: upcoming podcast. But who would you target? Here is a 680 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: you had to take one team to make it to 681 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: the Elite eight, that is a five or now a six, 682 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: a six or above. 683 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: I'll go Loyola. 684 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: I think they're capable of making the run mentioned Kennedy 685 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: and just what he means to them, the tournament experience 686 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 4: they have, like Lucas Williamson was on the Final four team, 687 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 4: most of almost all these guys around the Sweet sixteen 688 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 4: team last year. 689 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 3: They can shoot it. 690 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: I actually think Valentine's are really good to defensive game planner, 691 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: even though he is a super young coach in Villanova. 692 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: Because they play so slow, they're prone to bad shooting Nights. 693 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 4: Themselves are vulnerable to the bad shooting Knights and hot 694 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 4: shooting Knights for the opponent. So I think they could 695 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 4: get to the Elite eight. From there, they have to 696 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 4: beat Tennessee, but I also think that's doable. Loyal will 697 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: beat Tennessee back in twenty sixteen on the run to 698 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 4: the Final four or twenty eighteen. Excuse me, so I'll 699 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: go with the Ramblers as my sneaky pick. 700 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: What you want to look for? I have an article 701 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 2: at all our next note that looks at the thirteen 702 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: through fifteen seats and ranking their upset chances, and a 703 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: lot of what I look for apply to betting or 704 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: but it mainly it's for bracket money's high variance games. 705 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: That's what you want for your dogs, and that comes 706 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: down to like the three pointers and then tempo and 707 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: that Loyal Chicago Villanova game will be a grinder. So 708 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: that's low, low, low possessions, higher variants. You know, it's 709 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: a little different for Loyal Chicago. They're playing like zagar Arizona, 710 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: where the possessions would be way up. Yeah. I think 711 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: that's a good a good target for an uncomfortable team 712 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: to play in this field in a tournament setting with 713 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: experience and a great preparation coach. All right, Jim, that'll 714 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: do it. For the South, we went a little chalky. 715 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: We like potentially some dogs early, gave some upset potential. 716 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me. I will see you on Big 717 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: Bets on Campus Live every day this weekend ten thirty 718 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 2: am Eastern on Twitter. We'll tweet out the links, go 719 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: hunt some more winners and good luck this weekend. Brother, 720 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 721 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: See you then, all right, joining me. 722 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: Now to talk a little west the West, which is 723 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 2: we just talked to South Bring on the other side 724 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: of the bracket and talk the West. Gonzaga is the 725 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: one seed here. But first, PJ, how goes it? Where's 726 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: your excitement? 727 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: A lot? 728 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: It's getting up there, I think usually for me it 729 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: hits by this second game on Tuesday. Usually obviously we 730 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: have a great matchup with Wyoming in Indiana. But I mean, 731 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: is I don't think there's a better feeling as either sports, 732 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: better as a fan of waking up on that Thursday 733 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: morning and just having all the games. 734 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: Ready to go. 735 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I I tell you what, I can't at 736 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: wait until Thursday morning for tip. It's going to be 737 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,479 Speaker 1: so much fun. 738 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: Christmas morning is so close, all right, So let's uh, 739 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: let's start off talking to the West. Zaga is the 740 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 2: one seed, Duke's the two seed, Texas Tech's the three seed, 741 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: get on the New York talk in Arkansas the four, 742 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: ukon the five, and Zaga obviously the favorite here. High level. 743 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: When you look at this region, good Zaga coming out? 744 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: If not, can anyone get them early or do you 745 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 2: think they're going to the Elite eight and then someone 746 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: else can pick them off? What do you have in 747 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: your bracket, what are you looking for overall? Just give 748 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: your thoughts on this region. 749 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'd love to get your thoughts as well. 750 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm teetering right now. I really think Texas Tech has 751 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: a great shot of upsetting Gonzaga in that Elite eight. 752 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: Number one defense in college basketball really just doesn't allow 753 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: anything at the RAM, which Gonzaga really needs to get 754 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: there can play well and train position with them. So 755 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: that is where I'm kind of looking. I would appear 756 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: probably be my big upset to be a differentiator from 757 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: a lot of other brackets out there. So Texas Tech 758 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: in the final four, I mean, Duke is definitely getting upset. 759 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: And I think very very early here, and I think 760 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: what's going to end up happening is Texas Tech is 761 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: going to have a little bit of an easier path 762 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: to the Elite eight, and then it's going to be 763 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: an amazing matchup against Gonzaga. 764 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to go at Texas Tech. By the way, 765 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 2: it's a good You're right if you look like strategically, 766 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: if you're looking for a team you know that's a 767 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 2: higher seed to make a deep run like the Final four. 768 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people will have that, 769 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: so you can get a huge advantage over the others 770 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: in your bracket pool. If that's the case. By the way, 771 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 2: at Stuck you too on Twitter and have some information 772 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: on a bracket pool that I'm running that you can 773 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 2: check out. I ultimately went chalk. I went chalk in 774 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 2: the one seeds in the West and the South, which 775 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: is this episode, were going to Midwest and East next 776 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 2: teaser there. I did not go with the one seeds 777 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 2: in either the East or Midwest, but yeah, I came close. 778 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 2: I don't believe in the duke defense. Wouldn't shock me 779 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: if I'm not a believer in Michigan State. I just 780 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: don't believe. I don't believe in the duke defense. And 781 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: this coach k thing might might just be a distraction 782 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: for them, but the way that they closed the year, 783 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, look offense like Dick Davidson with their motion 784 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 2: could give them a lot of trouble in the second 785 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: round in Greenville, Texas Tech. I just don't buy their offense. 786 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: I just don't think it's quite good enough to get 787 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: to the final four and knock off Gonzaga. You know, 788 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: Gonzaga has a couple potential land mines. You know, say 789 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 2: Memphis wins that game. Memphis, just the athleticism of Memphis, 790 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: you know, the game will be like up and down, 791 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: and maybe that's not great going against Gonzaga, but man, 792 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 2: Memphis certainly has the athletes. And since Mony Bates left 793 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: the program, number two team in the country per Torvick, 794 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: teams playing extremely well Arkansas I think could potentially give 795 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: Gonzaga game. So there's some landmines there. I ultimately think 796 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: that Gonzaga prevails and goes to the Final four, where 797 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: they then lose. That's where I have going as the peak. 798 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: But let's uh, I think I'm trying to think of 799 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 2: my bracket. I haven't decided who I'm moving to the 800 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: elite yet. Like you have the variants of Alabama, you know, 801 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: Rodgers could he I mean, if Rutgers think that just 802 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: their toughness, like going against Alabama, they could beat like 803 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 2: Texas Tech and like a game that in the forties. Yeah, 804 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: and I think Duke in Michigan State the two and 805 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: seven and there are vulnerable. So yeah, I still haven't 806 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: decided on my final four. My excuse me, my Elite 807 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 2: eight team, and that's one of the reasons that I 808 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 2: picked Knzagga is because I'm not that confident in the 809 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: Elite eight, the team that comes out for the Elite Eight. 810 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I went with the Zags. 811 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,720 Speaker 2: Let's go through game by game here the Zach Georgia State. 812 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: I actually really like Georgia State here. I think that 813 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 2: they are are really underseated, I mean just powering perspect 814 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 2: they had a lot of injuries early on, they had 815 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 2: really bad shooting lockowing against them on both sides. They's 816 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 2: COVID issues. I know they're gonna be a fourteen seed. 817 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: Like Long Woods, the fourteen seed not have Georgia State 818 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: power rated higher than them, and so I mean I 819 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 2: think that they both got shafted it Liken Zaga having 820 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: to play well maybe the best sixteen ever power ratings wise, 821 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: and then Georgia State having to play again Zaga really 822 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: not fair to either team. But Georgia State can defend 823 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 2: the rim well, which is important here. Their guards, I 824 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: think can create a little bit of havoc and pressure 825 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: that could maybe given Zaga a little bit of trouble 826 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: here and there. And I think that their guards can 827 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: attack it Zag a huge spread here in the game. 828 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 2: That's like more like a A one versus the fourteen 829 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: than a sixteen. Georgia State I think's fully capable of 830 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: their guards, of their senior laden backward, of getting a 831 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: back door if needed. So ki Zaga clearly going to advance, 832 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: but I think the spreads a bit too high. 833 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I'm with you on Georgia State. 834 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: You I mean, you hit the nail on the head. 835 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: They're incredibly underrated team. I mean, even if you look 836 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: at it as shock quality, how drastically they unperformed this season. 837 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: They should have gone undefeated in the Sun Belt. 838 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 3: They had. 839 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: They won every single game on shot quality, but had 840 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: a ton of bad luck throughout the stretch. There are 841 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: a couple of things that, you know, Georgia State's not 842 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: a great offensive team, but they do run a ton 843 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: of pick and roll and they're pretty effective in doing so. 844 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: And that's one area that Gonzag has somewhat struggled in 845 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: this year. And you know, Gonzag obviously loves to push 846 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: the case, but you know, Georgia State is you know, 847 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: per shot quality, third best team in the nation and 848 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: transition defense, so it's really not that great of a 849 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: matchup for Gonzaga had in the first round, I'd actually be 850 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: pretty pissed if I was marked few. I was like, 851 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: why why couldn't I get you know, Texas Southerner, Corporsk State, 852 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: Norfolk State. Like, now we get a team that should 853 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,479 Speaker 1: have been at the very least a fifteen seed. So yeah, 854 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: Georgia State, I mean, they're not live on the money line, 855 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: but twenty three and a half is is pretty big 856 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: for a team that's you know this good, has great 857 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: like you said, has great guard play and can defend 858 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: the room really well. So right there with you love 859 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: love Georgia State against Conzaka. 860 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia State would be a sixteen seed that has 861 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: a chance to win a game if it was like 862 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: a lower possession game, like say that Virginia, the old 863 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: Virginia when they lost to UNBC. The variants was so 864 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: much higher in their games because they played so Gonzaga 865 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: plays so fast that it's just it's hard to see 866 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: Georgia State, Like Georgia State just had to get hot, 867 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, for maybe ten to twelve minutes in the game, 868 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it's going to be close 869 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: throughout against Virginia a little different against Nzacha. They'll go 870 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: on a couple of runs, but I think it's too 871 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: many points here. Once move on to the eight nine game. 872 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: Talked about Memphis surging. Memphis just a dumpster fire earlier 873 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: on in the season, but really figured it out down 874 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 2: the stretch and surged up until that. AAC final really 875 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 2: athletic team can pressure you point guard play questionable times, 876 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: but so is Boise States. I think this game sets 877 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 2: up well. I'll get your thoughts first. I'll let you 878 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 2: lead off here. What are your thoughts on Boise State Memphis? 879 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: Memphis two and a half point favorite over under, sitting 880 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: right now one thirty three. 881 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ultimately, you know how hot Memphis has been. My 882 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: guess is they'll probably get through here. But looking at 883 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: from a market perspective, I think given how good Memphis 884 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: has been over the second half of the season, I 885 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: think when we get towards Wednesday and Thursday, I think 886 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: we'll see a ton of Memphis money just hit the market. 887 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: So you might actually be able to get a better 888 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: number on Boise State and listen, Boise Date, I think 889 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: is one of the few teams that Memphis put a 890 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: matchup in the first round that can actually match their 891 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: size in their rebound yeah, yep, exactly. Boise State fifth 892 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: in the country and defensive rebounding percentage. That's you need 893 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: that to keep Memphis off the glass. You know, you 894 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: saw Memphis against SMU. I think they ended up having 895 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: with almost fifty rebounds total in the game. I mean, 896 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: it was just it was an absolute mess. So you 897 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: have to keep them off the offensive last if you 898 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: want to have any chance of winning in Boise State 899 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: can do that. On the flip side, you know, Boise 900 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: State runs a ton of post upsets they're very similar 901 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: to Memphis and the fact that all of their scoring 902 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: pretty much comes at the rim, So it's not the 903 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: best of match ups for them, given how good Memphis 904 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: is at the rim defending. But if Boise Bois Date 905 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: can slow this game down to their snail's pace, they'll 906 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: have a good shot. And the one thing about Memphis, 907 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: like you kind of mentioned with the point guard issues, 908 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: they're three hundred and fifty second in the country in 909 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: turnover percentage, while Bois Date turns people over a pretty 910 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: So I actually do like Boise State here given the number, 911 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: and I do think we may be able to get 912 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: a three, three and a half come Thursday, so I'm 913 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: ultimately probably gonna be playing in the Broncos here in 914 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't give me a good feeling, but I do 915 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 1: think there is some value on Boys of State. 916 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: I think I've been up playing Boise State there too. 917 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't really like them as a favorite because they're 918 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 2: awful at the free throw line. I think this game 919 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 2: also sets up as an under. It's on my favorite 920 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: first round unders. Point guard issues on poteas. Both teams 921 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: are just like really long and switchable, and they can 922 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 2: really take away everything the other team wants to do, 923 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 2: creating mismatches in the half court. On the offensive end, 924 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: two really good defensive teams just long everywhere, and you know, 925 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: when you look, it's like, okay, Memphis creates a lot 926 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 2: of turnovers. Boise State has, you know, some point guard questions, 927 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: but Poise State incredible in transition defense. That's huge here. 928 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: Keep Memphis in the half court, make them score half 929 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: court where you're really strong. I think Memphis will struggle 930 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: to score. The other thing Memphis with their way that 931 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: they preper is they foul a lot. But Boise State 932 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: one of the worst free throw shooting teams in the country. 933 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: Memphis also struggles at the line. So even though I 934 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 2: think that there could be some pressure here and turnovers 935 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 2: and foul shots, the transition defense, bad free throw shooting, 936 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 2: I think kind of overcomes that in this game is 937 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 2: played to it just a defensive battle. I think both 938 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: defenses have advantages in the half court, so I kind 939 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 2: of like the under I agree that if you get 940 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 2: three three and a half, I think it's boise going through. 941 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 2: Both teams are athletic enough to hang with Gonzaga. I 942 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: think Memphis is the more dangerous team given their uber athleticism, 943 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: and they'll just make that game like just helter skelter. 944 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: Thinking Zaga ultimately will prevail, but Memphis will give them 945 00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 2: a test. 946 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: Might have some value depending on the line. Very interesting 947 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: to see what that line is. 948 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 2: Memphis gets passed this game Yukon in New Mexico State 949 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: in the five to twelve game. This is you know, 950 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: everyone loves a twelve seed upsetting a five. Is Yukon 951 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 2: vulnerable here? What do you say? 952 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: Maybe because of their offense, not because of their defense. 953 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: I mean they are the Huskies are incredibly efficient defensively, 954 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: number one team in the country in terms of the 955 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: quality of three point looks they allow. That's terrible news 956 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: for New Mexico State. He takes threes that are really 957 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: high rate and is only making around thirty three percent 958 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: for the season. Yukon also number one team in college 959 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: basketball in offensive rebounding percentage. That's you know, a lot 960 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: of second chance points. At how they've been somewhat efficient offensively. 961 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: New Mexico State is a pretty decent defensive rebounding team, 962 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: but overall, they didn't play an overly difficult non conference schedule. 963 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: The one team they did play, which I found interesting, 964 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: was Washington State, who was top thirty in offensive rebounding percentage. 965 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: Washington State grabbed eighteen offensive rebounds in that game. So 966 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: if I'm in New Mexico's I am very, very worried 967 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: about Yukon and just dominating the Aggies on the glass. 968 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: But again, you know, the Huskies have not been a 969 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: very efficient offense. Given the number, I do think if 970 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: it drops a little bit to minus six, maybe minus 971 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: five and a half, maybe there's some love in the 972 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: market for New Mexico State that already has been because 973 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: they opened at seven and they're down to six and 974 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: a half. I think there's a potential to play Yukon here. 975 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: They're definitely vulnerable because of you know how inefficient their 976 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: offense has been. But again it's a really good matchup 977 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: for them defensively, so if given a better number, I 978 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: think I might end up playing the Huskies. 979 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually don't love the matchup for the Mexico State. 980 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: They always tend to be a trendy underdog pick, but 981 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 2: I think that they just have look Teddy Allen Teddy 982 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: buckets from Mexico State. He can get buckets and make 983 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,399 Speaker 2: tough shots. He was at West Virginia, then Nebraska down 984 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 2: New Mexico State. But I think Connecticut has a lot 985 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 2: of length to throw at him that can really bother 986 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 2: him and take him out of this game. Neither team 987 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 2: wants to play super fast. I think that you know, 988 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: in New Mexico State, I think their defense is better 989 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 2: than their offense. The Yukon offense has some issues at times, 990 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 2: their defense is incredible. I think this is played in 991 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: a complete half court, and I really like the under 992 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 2: here as well. The West is where I like most 993 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 2: of landers for what it's worth, but I think yukond 994 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: of dances I don't think that I'm not going to 995 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 2: have New Mexico State as a Trinity pick. You you 996 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,479 Speaker 2: have Yukona dancing in your bracket as. 997 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 1: Well, Yep, yep, yeah, this is a I think there's 998 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: three of the five twelve matchups I think are pretty 999 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: much set that the five is going through, and then 1000 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: there's one that I think it's still is pretty up 1001 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: in the air right now. 1002 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: Don't jing. So Isowa? Please? 1003 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: Are you confident your hog eyes by the way, yes, 1004 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: but the number is too high. I'll just say that 1005 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: in the first round. But I do think that Richmond 1006 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have an answer for Kig and Murray, so even there. 1007 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 2: Are most might not have the legs either. 1008 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I really worry, you know what happened with 1009 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: Illinois last year and the hangover from winning the first 1010 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, big ten tournament in a long time. I 1011 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: really worry about that with Iowa. But so like, for example, 1012 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: if they have to play South Dakota State second round, 1013 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 1: that scares me a lot. 1014 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the kind next i 1015 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 2: State will take on. The winner s gives are in 1016 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 2: Buffalo of Arkansas and Vermont, or maybe Vermont gets some 1017 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 2: crowd down there make the drive for five six hours 1018 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 2: from depending on where you are in the state. I 1019 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: think they'll have a decent contingent there. Vermont led to 1020 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 2: U just absolutely torched the Americans. They lost one game 1021 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: by one and they were missing two starters and then 1022 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 2: Hartford made like a billion threes in overtime. Other than that, 1023 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: they just rolled through the league. They won every game 1024 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: in their conference title, all three games by more than 1025 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 2: thirty points. I think thirty nine, thirty four, and thirty nine. 1026 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: They're dangerous. Arkansas obviously the dangerous team as well. Are 1027 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 2: the Hogs? Are they in danger of an upset here? 1028 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: This is actually a one that I might pick in 1029 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 2: my bracket. I might have Vermont moving on. 1030 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely there they are in Uh you, I guess 1031 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: you can call it trouble, vulnerable, whatever you want to 1032 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: call it. Because this is an incredibly good and efficient 1033 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: Vermont team, fourth most experienced team in college basketball per 1034 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: Ken Palm. The biggest thing in this met They have 1035 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: a pretty decent matchup here against Arkansas. They're the number 1036 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: one defensive rebounding team in the country, so they should 1037 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: be able to keep the huge get off that's very 1038 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: huge against Arkansas. They're very good defending inside the arc 1039 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 1: twenty second and two point fieldbel percentage and top eighty 1040 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: and field goal percentage at the rim. Arkansas does not 1041 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: shoot the ball well from behind the arcso another positive 1042 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: for Vermont. Also, they should be able to slow this 1043 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: game down to their incredibly slow pace and force Arkansas 1044 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: to play them in the half court, where Vermont is 1045 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 1: top ten in points per possession this season. They're very 1046 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: good in terms of their shot selection, which is their 1047 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 1: ninth in the country. They also don't turn the ball 1048 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: over a whole lot. They're very efficient attacking the rim. 1049 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: So if this game is played in the half court 1050 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: and Vermont forces Arkansas to play with them at the 1051 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: slow pace, this is, without a doubt upset alert for 1052 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,439 Speaker 1: the Hogs. So I love Vermont at plus five plus 1053 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: five and a half. I probably wouldn't go any lowder that. 1054 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: If it goes lower than that, I'll just, you know, 1055 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,320 Speaker 1: just play it on the money line. But yeah, the 1056 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: Arkansas is definitely definitely vulnerable here against a really good 1057 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: Vermont team. 1058 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 2: And Arkansas can start slow in games. That's not a 1059 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: great recipe for success as a favorite in the tournament. 1060 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, I agree with that, because you know, I 1061 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: think Colin's been saying it forever. How Arkansas just starts 1062 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: down ten every single game. You might be able to 1063 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: get a situation where if you play Vermont to start, 1064 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, at plus five, plus five and a half, well, 1065 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: if they go up early, similar to what Colgate did 1066 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 1: to Arkansas last year, you could get a wonderful middle 1067 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 1: spot on Arkansas potentially either win or you don't getting 1068 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: a plus number for the rest of the game. 1069 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely grabbing Arkansas want to crash the offensive glass, 1070 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 2: they want to force turnovers, get out and run, they 1071 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 2: want to get to the free throw line. Vermont very 1072 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 2: good in all those number one as you said, in 1073 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 2: defensive realny percentage, they are top twenty in foul rate 1074 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: on the defensive end, and they are top twenty in 1075 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: the nation and turnover rate. So yeah, look out for 1076 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 2: Vermont extremely Dan, I think this game is going to 1077 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 2: go right down on the wire. Ryan Davis. He's the 1078 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: stud for the senior laden team. He can play inside out, 1079 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 2: and he's shooting over forty three percent from three. The 1080 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 2: team can make threes too, and Arkansas is not a 1081 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 2: great shooting team, so you might have some Spurts from 1082 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: Vermont there, so yeah, I agree, I'm gonna have Vermont. 1083 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: I think it's a good upset to pick here with 1084 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: a thirteen versus four. All right, let's move on to 1085 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 2: the bottom half of the West. Alabama will take on 1086 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 2: the winner of Rutgers, and we don't know if we 1087 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: recording this on Tuesday night who that winner is going 1088 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 2: to be. Any strong thoughts on Alabama. 1089 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you mentioned at the top incredibly high variance teams, 1090 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 1: so they could get bounced here in the first round, 1091 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: or they could go to the Elite eight. It's basically 1092 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: one or the other. They take a very high percent 1093 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: to three pointers twelfth and three point rate twelfth in 1094 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 1: an adjustin tempo, so it'll be very interesting if they 1095 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,720 Speaker 1: have to play a Notre Dame or Rutgers to slower 1096 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: paced teams, if they are able to get up and 1097 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: out and transition very fish offense, but again ninety fourth 1098 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: and defensive adjusted defensive efficiency, so really, you know, and 1099 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: they've kind of faded down the stretch here, they could 1100 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 1: get to the Elite a there. 1101 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're looking for a pick to because 1102 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 2: we don't we don't really think of this bottom half 1103 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 2: as vulnerable with and if Alabama is making their shots. 1104 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,759 Speaker 2: Like the one thing is if they win this game 1105 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 2: and then they presumably play Texas Tech, we'll talk about 1106 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 2: that the next Texas Tech. No middle defense. You gotta 1107 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 2: shoot around them, move the ball and shoot threes and 1108 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 2: make threes. Alabama could do that. No, they're not. They 1109 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: just don't make threes. They shoot a ton of the 1110 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 2: high arrants team. And then they could beat Duke or 1111 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: Michigan State. Uh and by the way, they already beat 1112 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: Gonzaga earlier this year, who they would could could play 1113 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 2: in the final four. So if you want a team, 1114 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: we want to get really risky. The problem is they're 1115 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: high errants, but that's you want. When you want to 1116 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: win a bracket pool, you gotta take some high arances. 1117 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: Moves have Alabama, they could run. They could lose in 1118 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 2: the first round easily. I the threes aren't falling. But yeah, 1119 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 2: I agree, high errants team. 1120 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: I want there. 1121 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 2: They're tough, that bat that bottom half the bracket. I 1122 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 2: just cannot figure out what I'm gonna do. I'm glad 1123 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 2: see for you. You're like, I really like Texas. I wish 1124 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: I was that confident that high. 1125 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I back, yeah, I told you off 1126 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 1: the top, I'm pretty confident about them getting the lead 1127 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: eight I said, I'm still kind of up in the 1128 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: air with them and Gonzaga. I mean, it's it's it's 1129 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of a coin flip from me. Obviously Gonzaga will 1130 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: be favored. But the one thing I'll say about this 1131 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: is that if Rutgers beats Notre Dame, Rutgers is terrible 1132 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,879 Speaker 1: in transition defense, so that is huge for Alabama, who 1133 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: basically only plays in transition. So if if they end 1134 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: up playing Rutgers, obviously obviously it's all dependent on the number, 1135 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: but probably ended up playing Alabama in the first round 1136 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: if they played Starlet Knines, Texas. 1137 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 2: Tech the three seat taking on Montana State, the fourteen 1138 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 2: seed out of the Big Sky. I think it's a 1139 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 2: terrible matchup for Montana State. On the defensive end. They 1140 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 2: look they're not a great defense, but they kind of 1141 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 2: pack it in a lot of teams just come down 1142 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 2: and they're gonna get open looks from three. Texas Teck 1143 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 2: is not a good three point shooting team, and Montana 1144 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 2: State gets a lot of good defensive rebounds because they're 1145 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 2: packed in and Texas Tech lakes to live on the 1146 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 2: offensive class. So I think Montana State my field has 1147 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 2: some success defensively, but the problem is their offense is 1148 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,919 Speaker 2: all they want to feed the post and they want 1149 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 2: to dribble drive with their guards to create. You can't 1150 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 2: do that against the no middle. So this is it's 1151 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 2: just I cannot see Montana State scoring enough. Even though 1152 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: like this game, you know Texas Tech, you always can 1153 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 2: say like, oh, they could be on upset alert as 1154 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,240 Speaker 2: a big favor because the game is going to be crawl, 1155 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 2: low scoring. You're gonna have there. You're going to be 1156 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: shooting threes against them. It's your only course of offense 1157 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,959 Speaker 2: against their excellent defense. But I would lean under here. 1158 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 2: I actually would lean Texas Tech reluctantly, but I don't 1159 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 2: like lang big numbers with them. But I think this 1160 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: is a tough matchup for Montana State's offense. Don't think 1161 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 2: Texas Tech is at risk of upset any thoughts. 1162 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, I'm not. I'm happy to just completely pass 1163 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: on this one. I really don't have a good field. 1164 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: But the one thing I'll say about Montana's State you 1165 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: mentioned they're driblet drive offense. They draw a ton of fouls. 1166 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, they're fifth in they're on the Texas Tech files. 1167 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: Yep, they're fourth in the country in free throw rate, 1168 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: and they do hit seventy five percent from the free 1169 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: throw line, and like you mentioned, Texas Tech two hundred 1170 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: and thirty seconds in free throw rate all out. So 1171 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: that's basically one of the only advantages that Montana State 1172 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: will have offensively. But like you said, really really bad 1173 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: matchup for them. The numbers probably right, you know, potentially 1174 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: playing under but just a complete stay away from me. 1175 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things that I mentioned in 1176 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 2: my article on ranking the upset some Action network cap. 1177 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: I said that if it's called really tight and there's 1178 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 2: calling fouls everywhere, that's advantage for Montana State because Texas 1179 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 2: Tech also isn't great at the line. But that's pretty 1180 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,439 Speaker 2: much their only hope I think offensively. All right, moving 1181 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 2: on to the bottom pod of the West in Greenville, 1182 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 2: where Davidson and Duke are playing, not each other, but 1183 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 2: they're both playing there, so you would think they have 1184 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 2: a little regional advantage, especially duke huge fan base. We'll 1185 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: start Michigan State, Davidson, Michigan State backcourt health questions. Some 1186 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 2: Walker probably won't play Hoguard's a little banged up. This 1187 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 2: is the Foster Lawyer revenge game, the ex Michigan State 1188 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,240 Speaker 2: product who might be like one of the best players 1189 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 2: now if he was still on the team. I'm not 1190 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: a believer in this Michigan State team. They even like 1191 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: led the Big Ten in three point defense and three 1192 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 2: point shooting, even though I don't think they take great shots. 1193 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 2: They still weren't like run through the conference shot quality 1194 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: luck box, and this team turns it over a lot. 1195 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 2: They don't force turnovers. I don't think they can really 1196 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 2: disrupt the stated's in offense. The only thing that concerns 1197 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 2: me does Lawyer like try to do too much? I 1198 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 2: don't think he will. And then just like the kind 1199 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 2: of like a physicality advantage inside like just Michigan State, 1200 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: like just I'm getting I'm just going to throw it 1201 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 2: up and get dunks and rebounds. But I think David 1202 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 2: can compete there better than some people think. I think 1203 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 2: Davidson advances. I'm gonna bet them as well. Do you agree? 1204 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely? You mentioned the shot quality luck box. Last sixteen 1205 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: games of the season, Michigan State six and ten overall record, 1206 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: one in fifteen shot quality record. Their shot selection on 1207 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: offense really plays to that because they're two hundred and 1208 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: ninety ninth in the shot selection in three hundred and 1209 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: thirty fourth and rimen three point rate, which are the 1210 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,479 Speaker 1: two most valuable shots in half court offense. So given 1211 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: the fact they're outside the top two hundred and points 1212 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: for possession of both half court and transition, it's hard 1213 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: for me to see how they're gonna exploit Davidson, even 1214 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: though Davidson isn't that great of a team defensively, but 1215 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: Davidson is top ten in terms of defensive rebounding percentage, 1216 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: so Michigan State is gonna have very few second chance points. 1217 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 2: So I agree with you. 1218 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how the Spartans are really gonna score 1219 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: effectively in this game. And on the flip side, you 1220 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: haven't seen Davidson play. They are one of the best 1221 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: shooting teams in all of college basketball top six and 1222 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: both catch and shooting off dribble three pointers. I mean 1223 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: they finished the season over thirty eight percent from behind 1224 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: the arc. They play a very very slow tempo, high 1225 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: frequency of their offense coming in the half court, where 1226 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: they're third in points per possession per shot quality, while 1227 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: Michigan State is outside the top one hundred and half 1228 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: court defense. So given the fact that this is going 1229 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,959 Speaker 1: to be played at a slow pace where Michigan State 1230 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: actually loves to play a decent amount of percentage of 1231 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: their possessions in transition, I think that Davidson has a 1232 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: ton of advantages and also the injury questions for Michigan State. 1233 00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 1234 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: I love this is probably my favorite pick of all Friday. 1235 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,479 Speaker 1: I love Davidson here, and I'm we will talk about 1236 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,919 Speaker 1: a bit, but I also love them to be duke 1237 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: in the second round. 1238 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Davidson, They're not gonna let you get on in transition. 1239 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 2: I think that's Michigan State's best course of action for offense. 1240 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 2: But Davidson, it just slows the game down to a crawl, 1241 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 2: doesn't let you get in transition, which I think works 1242 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: in their favor here. And look, they got guys like 1243 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: Menenga Brakovich, who can who could shoot three, who can 1244 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 2: pull out those Michigan State bigs and kind of open 1245 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 2: up the motion offense. 1246 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: I think that's my restarters. Over forty percent from behind 1247 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: the arc. 1248 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that includes their big their they're bigs. 1249 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: And Foster Lawyer leaves the countrey in free throw percentage. 1250 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean Lawyers at forty five percent, Rakovic 1251 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 2: is at forty percent, Lee is at thirty eight percent. 1252 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 2: And it's a guy at forty six percent last year, 1253 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 2: thirty eight percent the year before, Jones at forty three percent, 1254 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 2: Menanga at forty four percent, Huffin at thirty percent. This 1255 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 2: team to shoot. I think they get it done. 1256 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: And that's really what you want in the BRAT, In 1257 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: a BRA like this, or at least in the Anti tournament, 1258 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: you want teams that can get hot, really easily shooting 1259 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: the ball and just ride that wave all the way 1260 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: through the tournament. So Davidson's one of those teams that 1261 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: I'll be picking to go to the sweet sixteen. And 1262 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe I'll stare at Texas Tack a little 1263 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: bit longer and have Davidson ELI eight. 1264 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Why not it's Mad Duke Fullerton Final game of the West. 1265 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Duke eighteen and a half point favorite here against Fullerton, 1266 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 2: coming all the way across the country after winning the 1267 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Big West. Taking on Duke, who kind of slid down 1268 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 2: the stretch. I'm fading Duke in this tournament. Not here 1269 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 2: actually might play Duke. I think it's a terrible matchup 1270 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: for Forardon. They want to feed it inside, Danna sicky, 1271 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 2: they want to get to the rim. You just can't 1272 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 2: do those things against Duke and Mark Williams the other side. 1273 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Duke has size advantage with their guards. Duke doesn't turn 1274 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 2: it over forwardon wants to turn it over forward and 1275 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 2: wants to get to the line. Duke doesn't foul. I 1276 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 2: just matchup advanage all over. Feels like a game where 1277 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 2: like everyone's writing off Duke and they get to play 1278 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 2: like a really inferior opponent front of their home crowd. 1279 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 2: And I think that they take advantage and like just 1280 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 2: run it up, take up some French frustrations, hopefully by fifty, 1281 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 2: and then we can get everyone's got Duke's back, and 1282 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 2: then we can fade in them the next round. 1283 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: I'd be great. 1284 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 2: I think their defense is major issues, but I don't 1285 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: think Fullwich can can expose that. Youre Fullton also not 1286 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 2: like a three point reliant team. They do a couple 1287 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,919 Speaker 2: of capable shooters, but they want to work in the post. 1288 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 2: They want to get to the rim. Just not going 1289 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,919 Speaker 2: to work against Duke. So yeah, I think the Blue 1290 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 2: Devils win rather easily. 1291 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with everything you said. It's just a 1292 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: complete pass for me. What I will say about Duke now, 1293 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: the Titans aren't gonna exploit them here, but Duke right 1294 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,160 Speaker 1: now cannot turn anybody over three hundred eighteenth internal percentage, 1295 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: They can't stop anybody in transition, one hundred and eighty 1296 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: third in points are possessional allowed, and they are horrible 1297 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: at defending three pointers outside the top two hundred against 1298 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 1: both catch and shooting off dribble. So the next round 1299 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: against Davidson, that's a huge problem because those are three 1300 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 1: things that Davidson does. 1301 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Promotion offenses, due offenses. 1302 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Last last four games of the season from Duke, they 1303 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: allowed over one point one points for possession to North Carolina, 1304 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Syracuse without Buddy Beheim, Miami in Virginia Tech. So what 1305 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: do you think Davidson or potentially Texas Tech is going 1306 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: to do? Like this is a really really bad defense 1307 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: right now. But again, like you mentioned, cal State Fullerton 1308 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't take a high number threes, doesn't have the size, 1309 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 1: really just can't really compete here with Dukes. 1310 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 3: So it's a pass for me. You know. 1311 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like any game in this tournament, I'll be 1312 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: potentially looking to play something live, but I don't really 1313 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: have a good feel for this one, so I'll be passing. 1314 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 2: All right. Then, before we get you out of here, 1315 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 2: give me your final four in the National Championship if 1316 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: you want. If you haven't decided yet, you haven't decided. 1317 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: I've pretty much decided. I got Texas Tech coming out 1318 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: of the West. I have your Kentucky Wildcats coming out 1319 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: of the East. I have the Arizona Wildcats coming out 1320 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: of the the South region, and then I have my 1321 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Iowa Hawkeyes coming out of the Midwest. And ultimately, I 1322 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: have your Kentucky Wildcats playing the Arizona Wildcats in the final, 1323 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: and unfortunately, I have the Arizona Wildcats cutting down the nets. 1324 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, BJ. We will be back again 1325 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 2: for episodes next week. You will be back. We have 1326 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 2: an episode after this covering the East in the Midwest 1327 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 2: with Matt Cox and Ki mcewn. Thanks for joining me, BJ, 1328 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 2: Thanks to Jim Root for joining me as well. Thanks 1329 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 2: to all of you for listening. Make sure you subscribe 1330 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 2: on subscribe to a friend ton Enemy. Good luck on 1331 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 2: your brackets. 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