1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: All right, come back or collapse. We'll talk all about 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: it in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Brooks and May Freman. You know what, we're broadcasting live 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: on the tire rack dot com studios tire rack dot com. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there and unmatched selection fans, free shipping, 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended in 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: stallars tire rack dot com. The way tire buying should be, 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: the way sports should be played, talk, scouted and written 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: about My partner and friend, Bucky Brooks, Buck, how are you? 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: I know, well, Andy, how's everything with you? 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: You know what, though, I watched those games last night 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: and I'm saying to myself, you know, yeah, four number ones. 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 4: You know there's no Cinderella this year. You know what? 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 4: This is the way to go. Four number ones, the 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 4: way to go. 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: I mean, I have a couple of words to say 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: about this game, that Houston game, the Cougars seventy sixty 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: seven comeback over Duke last night, A stunner, a heartbreaker, improbable, 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: and you know what the bottom lineers and maybe a 22 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: way off base on this. I think it's maturity against youth. 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: I just think the youth kind of crackled with the 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: fiftiest thought is on Houston and these seniors on Houston 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: kind of paved the way and they had more of 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: the confidence factor, where the youth on Duke, including Cooper 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: Flag who basically did scored twenty seven points, but down 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: the stretch he kind of like short his immaturity. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it's been a common theme 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 5: in college basketball. The older team wins and there's nothing 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: that can replace experience and expertise, and the repetitions that 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: these older teams have gotten forced sorry has forced them 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 5: in fire, so they're prepared for those moments. Despite the talent, 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 5: and look, Duke is im mensely talented, maybe the most 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 5: talented team that was in the final four, there's still 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 5: nothing that replaces the wisdom that you acquire by going 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 5: through a time and time again. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: And what we saw was a. 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 5: Hardened team, a team that was seasoned, a team that 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: had been in these moments time and time again. We 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: saw them pull it out because they knew how to 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: win in those moments more so than Duke completely collapse in. 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: At the end. 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: It amazes me some of the things that happened in 45 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: that game last night. First of all, in a sixteen 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: second span under a minute to play, Houston goes on 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: a seven zero run. All right, that's number one, number two. Honestly, 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: I cannot believe the comeback. Certainly with nineteen seconds to go, 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Juan Roberts has down two free throws. I don't know 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: how you do that with a crowd like that. I mean, 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: I can't do it in the park, and he's doing 52 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: it in front of like sixty thousand people. Nineteen seconds 53 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: left to help his team take that one point lead, 54 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 2: that Ljkry has two more free throws to steal the win. 55 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: So the Cougars ended up on a nine to notzhing 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: run in thirty three seconds. I mean, you don't see 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: that in basketball. I don't know how it happens. 58 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: Is that a fluke? I don't know. 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: They trailed by fourteen with about eight to fifteen to 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: go in the game and they had to comeback. Amazing, Yeah, 61 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: it truly is amazing. Remark have you want to describe it? 62 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: But what I would say in watching Houston over the 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: course of the season real tough, minded, gritty team, a 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: team that hangs their hat on defense. And when you 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 5: hang your hat on defense like it always gives you 66 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: a chance. And when Houston needed to get stops, they 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: were able to make Duke uncomfortable get stops, and then 68 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: they converted those stops and their points on offense. And 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: when you have older players, players who aren't afraid of 70 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 5: the moment, they didn't blink or wilt when the game 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 5: pressure got thick. They were able to kind of keep 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: their composure, focus on the things that needed to be done, 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 5: and they executed. And a lot of times in these 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: moments we talk about, execution exceeds emotion and you got 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 5: to be able to focus on what do I need 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: to do, how do I need to do it, when 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: do I need to get it done, as opposed to 78 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: being in your feelings, And Houston was able to do that. 79 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 5: And then on the other side with Duke, look, the 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: emotion of the moment, the feeling like the game is 81 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: slipping away, overwhelmed them and they weren't able to make 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: the players they needed to make at the end of 83 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: the game. 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: It amazes me because Kelvin Sampson was asked after the 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: ball game yesterday. You know, it was the most improbable 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: win of the year for him or maybe in his career. 87 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: And he said no, because back in a month ago 88 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: they were playing in Allen Field House in Kansas and 89 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: they rallied with like ninety one seconds to play to 90 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: win at Kansas in double overtime. So you know, he's 91 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: used to it, and I think that kind of transcends 92 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: into his players. So they used to it and say, hey, 93 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: calm down, we did it before, we could do it again. 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 95 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 5: I mean, like, when you have experience, is the best 96 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 5: teacher that you can have. Going through these situations time 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 5: and time a in is the best thing you can 98 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: do to prepare your team down the line, especially if 99 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 5: you're able to go through something hard and come out 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 5: on the other side successfully. Because Houston has had several 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 5: of these moments throughout the course of the season where 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 5: had the boat like buckle down and make plays down 103 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 5: the streats to win games, They're very, very comfortable in 104 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 5: that environment. And because they are team that look, they 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 5: pride themselves in their toughness, their physicality, their defense, their 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: ability to kind of win all the fifty to fifty plays. 107 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 5: They just believe that they can outwork you and outlast 108 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: you at the end of games, and they were able 109 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: to do that in the final four. 110 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you mentioned something about defense, and 111 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: they kind of put their head on defense. They started 112 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: the game. Lease some of the statistics from the game 113 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: last night. They started from the field one for nine, 114 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: three for fifteen, and then five to twenty five. Okay, 115 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: but they out rebounded Duke by eleven and they scored 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: nineteen second chance points against Duke, all right, and it 117 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: amazes me. Then they trailed by fourteen about eleven thirty 118 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: to go in the game, and they held Duke to 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: three points in the final three minutes. Now, I don't 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: know if it's their great defense or Duke so of choked. 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's exactly what happened. Three points 122 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: in three minutes. 123 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: Uh yeah. 124 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 5: Look, there are a lot of different things that can 125 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: factor into it. The defense play well. Duke certainly had 126 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: to help them to turn over his misfretz Rose, lack 127 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 5: of execution, all that stuff played a part, But without 128 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 5: Houston having a belief that they could win, without them 129 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 5: being able to kind of turn up that effort and 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: play with the desperation, but I would say a controlled desperation. 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not able to get that done. 132 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 5: At some point, when you're coming back from a significant deficit, 133 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 5: you have to get the game close enough so you 134 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 5: can make the opponent feel the pressure. Houston did that, 135 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 5: and they seized their opportunity when Duke made some costly 136 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 5: mistakes down the stretch. 137 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: It amazes me, and I thought that when Tugla had 138 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: that technical foul call on him and Duke goes to 139 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: the foul line shooting the technical, Duke's up sixty seven 140 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: sixty one to figure the games over. Really, I was 141 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: already to show the TV off. I thought the game 142 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: was over right there, and I was pulling for Houston. 143 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: I think you get a guy like Kelvin Sampson who's 144 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: now has seven hundred and ninety nine wins, and he's 145 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: had some misfortune. I mean, I mean when they kind 146 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: of dumped them out of Indiana as a coach of 147 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: the Indiana Hoosiers. Now the NCAA has changed the rule 148 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: now on those phone calls. He was let go because 149 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: of like not illegal phone calls, but maybe making too 150 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: many off season for recruiting. 151 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: Now that's Okay, that's all. Okay. 152 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: So you know he had that black mark against him, 153 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: but he came back. He came back strong. I think 154 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: he was an assistant coach with the Milwaukee Bucks for 155 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: a while and he got a second chance and I 156 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: love that. And boy, oh boy, is he have a 157 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a Hall of Fame coach. I don't 158 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: care what happened prior to to yesterday. He's going to 159 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame because hopefully Monday night 160 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: he gets his eight hundredth career win and used to 161 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: wins it all. 162 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be tough, though, because Florida is talented. 163 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 5: They got players, they got big shot makers, they had 164 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: a lot of athleticism. We'll see how to handle it. 165 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: Should be a great final, dough. It should be a 166 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: great title game. I'm excited to look at it. 167 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: I am too. 168 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: Let's take a list with Kelvin Simpson how to say 169 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: after the game last night, Calvin coach. 170 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 6: No one ever loses in anything. As long as you 171 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 6: don't quit, you quit. I don't care because you've lost. 172 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 6: I'm figuring our time outside. We've been here before. It's 173 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 6: not like we're down twenty it's not like we were 174 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 6: playing great. Felt like if we could get it close 175 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 6: enough to put some game pressure on them, that something 176 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 6: that could happen. But the credit, the credit, how the 177 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: glory goes to God and the creditable young man. 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: I got the coach. 179 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm so glassed. I get the coach. 180 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: You know, Kevin Sampson was great. I mean, I love 181 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: the man. I think that I think the kids loved 182 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: playing for him. He's an old school coach. He's tough. 183 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd love to see one of his practices 184 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: because I'm sure he's just really tough, because a lot 185 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: of times after the ball game will say, well, you 186 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: know that that's nothing, that we've done that in practice, 187 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: and that's great, okay. But the one good thing that 188 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: I that I'm hearing and I didn't hear from you, 189 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: which is wonderful. I heard people crying after the game 190 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: on various talk shows that, well, the Cooper flag foul at. 191 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: The end of the game. 192 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: It was a bad call. Don't blame it on one play. 193 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: You had a lead. You were up, I mean you 194 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: were up with eight minutes to go. 195 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 4: You were up. You had the lead. 196 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: You know, when Houston won the game last night. It 197 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: was only the third time that had the lead the 198 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: entire freaking game. 199 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: So you're gonna play. 200 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: It on a free on a foul call, which in fact, 201 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: the announcers on TV and Bill Raftery didn't. No one 202 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: even complain about that call. No one said it was 203 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: a bad call, but don't play it on the call. 204 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: So I'm so happy you didn't blame it on the 205 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: call because it had nothing to do with it. It 206 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: may have been a touchy call perhaps, and maybe at 207 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: that time of the game you don't maybe blow the whistle. 208 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, but the point is that Duke had 209 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: the game in hand, and don't blame it on a foul. 210 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta finish the game. 211 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 5: They had a significant lead, They had multiple opportunities to 212 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: ice the game and they didn't. When you when you're 213 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 5: allowed to come back and you put it, we always 214 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: say like, don't let it go to the judges. And 215 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 5: they let it get close enough where the if it 216 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 5: could make a call that would sway the game, that's 217 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: on them. 218 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: They got to finish the do you know. 219 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: I will say this at the end of the day, 220 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: and this game will be one of those games for 221 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: the ages. Do you call it an incredible combat by 222 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Houston Cougar's or what do you call it one of 223 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: the biggest. 224 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: Collapses in Final Four history. 225 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's a combination of both. 226 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: That's basically what it is. 227 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: I think it's an incredible comeback. 228 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 5: I think the comeback puts the pressure on the team 229 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: to make them collapse. 230 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it was just Douke being lose to Careless. 231 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 5: I think a lot of it was the effort and 232 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 5: energy that Houston exerted. Then it was the execution down 233 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: the stretch and when they had to make plays, they 234 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 5: made plays. 235 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: You know. 236 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: And it was funny because you talk about defensive they 237 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: basically Houston has been winning on defense twenty year long. 238 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: And basically Florida came back in their game. It was 239 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: a seventy nine to seventy three and Auburn. I thought 240 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: Auburn had him. I thought Auburn may have been even 241 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: the better team. I don't know, but the second half 242 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: they were a different ball club. You know, they came 243 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: back defensively, that's basically what they did. And this kid, 244 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: Walter Clayton Junior, I don't think he's got the accolades 245 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: he deserved. 246 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: What he did last night career. 247 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 2: High and a game high thirty four points last night, 248 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he owned the game. 249 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: They couldn't stop him. 250 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: And really, truly, you hear about so many players in 251 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: college basketball throughout the season. I just don't think he 252 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: got enough pub throughout the season. But the way he 253 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: played last night, it was amazing. 254 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was brilliant. He made plays. 255 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 5: You know, he showed up when it was time for 256 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 5: them to show up, and it was great to see 257 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 5: him play like he played. In terms of being a 258 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 5: big shot, big shot maker, he's been terrific. Though he 259 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 5: had an opportunity starting out at Iona, playing under Rick Patino, 260 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: makes his way to Florida, and he has steadily improved 261 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: and gotten better and for them this season, he's been 262 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: the number one guy. He's been the go to guy 263 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 5: that got to count on whenever they needed a bucket. 264 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: And look, he saved his best for when they needed 265 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 5: it the most. He was terrific yesterday. 266 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: You Know, it's funny because I don't think many people 267 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: either A know that he went to Iona or be 268 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: don't even know where Iona is. It's in New Rochelle, 269 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: New York and that's where Patino coach, probably to Saint John's. 270 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: And what we're seeing right here in the big picture 271 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: is the fact that there's a lot of players that 272 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: have been skipped over on a I guess mid major 273 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: or a lower D one program like on Iona and 274 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: they're in the Matt Conference, MAAC Conference. You just can 275 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: see right now. What's happening with the portal is the 276 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: fact that it's almost serving as a minor league for 277 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: major league colleges. 278 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 4: That's what it's doing. You got the big schools in 279 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 4: the SEC. 280 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: They're gonna reach down and get a player that maybe 281 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: they skipped over. They say, hey, let's give them a shot. 282 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: And we're seeing it right now. So that's why you 283 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: get four teams in the final fourth that are all 284 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: number ones and they say there's no Cinderella. You know what, 285 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: I changed my mind? The heck with the Cinderella is yeah, 286 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: the great story. You get the loyalists of Chicago, you 287 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: got the do Canes, you got your Saint Francis a PA. 288 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: You know what, those teams are never gonna win anyway, 289 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: So get him out of there and let's see the 290 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: best of the best. 291 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 4: And that's what we did last night. 292 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: You say, get him out of there, get him out. 293 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 5: They're away best, the best we're seeing. I mean, I 294 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: mean there's something to that. I'm not disagreeing with you. Yeah, 295 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: we're seeing the best of the best. It's unfortunate. March 296 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 5: Madness was fun. It was fun when you can see 297 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 5: the upsets and all the other stuff. But it's a 298 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: different time and it's gonna be we're not going to 299 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: see that anymore. 300 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: They're no longer would be madness. 301 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: It's going to be the favors in both sides, men's bracket, 302 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 5: women's bracket. It's gonna change the way we go about 303 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: doing business. But I don't foresee anything change. And the 304 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: way the portal is and the way everything is nah 305 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: that the haves and the have nots a being divided. 306 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 5: There's a more significant gap between them than there's ever been. 307 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the funny thing is that in years past, 308 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: people will tell me all the time, well, you know, 309 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: anybody could win, because it's not the best team of 310 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: the country that could have win March Man. 311 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: It's it's just a tournament. Okay. Now I'm not saying 312 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: it's not a tournament anymore. 313 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: Now, you're gonna see the best of the best, because 314 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: we're seeing that now. The four teams that are won 315 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: number one and Auburn was the number one, number one, 316 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: and they go down the road. You know, it's very 317 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: similar to what the women have had for years, because 318 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: you've seen Tennessee dominate for so many years. South Carolina, Connecticut, 319 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: I mean, they've dominated because it's the halfs and a 320 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: half nuts. There's maybe on one hand you could count 321 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: the great teams in women's college basketball. 322 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: I'll tell you who they are, USC, UCLA, South. 323 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: Carolina, Connecticut, and maybe Texas And basically that's it, right, 324 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: and they got the championship going on today with a 325 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: South Carolina playing Yukon, it's gonna be a pretty good game. 326 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: Other than that, everybody else falls on the wayside. 327 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, look, you have the teams that have 328 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: always been there, have always kind of been the top dogs, and. 329 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: They continue to be there. 330 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 5: You throw in LSU, you got them, you kind of 331 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: name them all. There's some teams that are flash and 332 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: occasionally they'll pop up and make some things happen and 333 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 5: you can say, Okay, they've had a really good season. 334 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: But in terms of programs, establishing programs a little bit 335 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: of the teams that have the best players consistently dominated 336 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: at the top, and those teams that you mentioned, particularly 337 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: on the women's side, they always always are dominant. 338 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's great because I love doing Staley the 339 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: coach of South Carolina, because she doesn't hold back. You know, 340 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: she doesn't hold. 341 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: About the thing. 342 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: And now she's complaining to the extent I agree with her, 343 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: and she says in according right now. Sometimes we create 344 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: these narratives about great players. It's about Caitlin clusters. Kaitlyn 345 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: was one of them. Paige Becker is one of them 346 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: right now, and we tend to forget the narrative about 347 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: what our kids, meaning our kids in South Carolina have 348 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: been able to do going for the third title in 349 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: four years. 350 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: And this is what she said yesterday. 351 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: There's a sentimental narrative about Page, a great freaking player. 352 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: Anybody would start their franchise with Page because she's a winner. 353 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: But when you put a narrative out there, everybody sees 354 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: that and puts us at a disadvantage. 355 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: Whether you want to believe so or not. I love 356 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: that it's true. 357 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean South Carolina has been dominating women's college basketball 358 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: for the last three four years and this page Becker's 359 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: comes out and she didn't even play last year. 360 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: She was hurt. And this hype, the hype is crazy. 361 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. 362 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean it sells tickets, it gets on the front page. 363 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: People want to turn the TV on to see this 364 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: one player. But I think in the sense it hurts. 365 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: I know, all of a sudden, page Becker's is the 366 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: new Caitlin Clark, right. 367 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, but no, I would say this was she was 368 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 5: her before this moment. She's always been highly regarded. 369 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: I want to go. 370 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 5: And say, going all the way back to her freshman year, 371 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: she might have won an esp for how dominant she was. 372 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: She has always been one of the elite players. 373 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: They've talked about her. She was legendary when she got 374 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: to Yukon. 375 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: So this is not a Johnny come Lately, a late revelation, 376 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 5: someone that's new. 377 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: To the party. 378 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: It took her a while last year to recover from 379 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: their knee, but no, she's legit. And so the hype 380 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: and the credit that she's getting right now to recognition 381 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 5: is well deserve because she is one of the best 382 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 5: players that we've seen. 383 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: She's phenomenal. 384 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's great though, So Don Staley comes 385 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: back and says, unquote, she's a great player meeting pages, 386 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: but just because you're a great player doesn't mean you 387 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: need to win the national championship to legitimize it. Basically, 388 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 2: she's saying, you ain't gonna win. South Carolina's gonna win 389 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: whether to beat you, You're still gonna be a great player, 390 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: but we're the great team. 391 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 4: That's basically what she's saying. I love it. 392 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: She's probably gotten her head right now. I love down Staley. 393 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: She's a great coach. I mean, I don't know how 394 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: she does it. I don't know if there's a lot 395 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: of is there a lot of nil money in women's 396 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: college basketball? I don't know are these women getting good cash? 397 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 5: I mean, she built it up, she built up the program. 398 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: She's done it everywhere. She did it at Temple. She 399 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: was a great player. I personally watched her play at 400 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: the University of Virginia when I was at North Carolina 401 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 5: and they were a dominant team. And she has taken 402 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: all those experiences from being on the women's version of 403 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 5: the Dream Team to coaching with the Sting and playing 404 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 5: with the sting and becoming everything that she's become as 405 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: a coach and helped those players become a dominant team. 406 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 5: And when she went to South Carolina, no one thought 407 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 5: South Carolina was a destination when it came to women's basketball. 408 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 5: She built that up, She created that aura, and she 409 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 5: is being able to really recruit good players. But they 410 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 5: are a tough defensive team, super athletic. They're gonna get 411 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: after it. This would be a great game because you 412 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 5: know Arima. Look, man, he's one of the best who've 413 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 5: ever done it. Eleven national titles, but he hasn't won 414 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 5: one since twenty sixteen. This is a big, gay, big 415 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 5: game for both programs. 416 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 4: Right. 417 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: I think he won. He's pretty hungry about that. He 418 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: came out something like yesterday, I think he had a 419 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 2: coach saying that, you know, the years that they've lost, 420 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: he blames it on himself. 421 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: He said the various coaching moves. 422 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: And that's kind of big. That's a big thing to 423 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: come out and say. And some media person was pushing 424 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: him and kind of saying, well, you know, what moves. 425 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: Did you make that caused these losses. 426 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: He didn't want to go into that, but he said 427 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: there's some of the coaching moves that he made or 428 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: didn't make, created the fact that, you know, Connecticut did 429 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: not win several championships down the road that he thinks 430 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: that they should have won. But you know, the other 431 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: night they beat UCLA. They beat him like a drum. 432 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: I mean, they really beat him barely. I mean I 433 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: couldn't believe the score when I saw that score. It 434 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: was like eighty five fifty one Yukon once and u 435 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: CLA is pretty darn good. And they were they were 436 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 2: the number one overall seeds. So Connecticut comes into this 437 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: game at the number two seed. So we'll see what happens. 438 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: And I'm glad that the game is a standalone game. 439 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: What I mean by that, it's not like part of 440 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: a double headed with the men. It's not on the 441 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: same time where the same day as the men. It's 442 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: the say afternoon East coast three pm time, and you know, 443 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: got an audience. I think it'll be a pretty well respected, 444 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: a pretty good sized audience watching that nothing else going on. 445 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: There's no football or anything else going on at three 446 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: pm Eastern time today, Sunday afternoon. So I think that 447 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: it's a good thing for the women. 448 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great thing. 449 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 5: They put it on prime time, as you be, a 450 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: terrific opportunity to kind of see the women on the 451 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: main stage. And we've seen it in the last couple 452 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 5: of years, like the game is growing so much interest 453 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: in the game. 454 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 3: This would be fun to see because you talked about 455 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: two legendary programs, two legendary coaches going at it. 456 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: Now. 457 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: I was talking to my wife about this the other day, 458 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: and it's hard to believe. And maybe maybe I'm showing 459 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: my age. I don't know when you were in high school. 460 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't think. I'm trying to think now I'm going 461 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: back in time. I don't even think my high school 462 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: had a girls basketball team. I don't remember. I don't 463 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: think they did. I'm sure yours did right at the time. 464 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, weird girls basketball for sure. You know. 465 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 4: I don't think they had it. Even in college. I 466 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: don't remember. I don't even know. 467 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: I can't remember yesterday, but I don't remember that far back. 468 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't think we did. I mean, that's how far 469 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: women's sports has come. And it amazes me right now 470 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: when you turn the tube on and it's kind of 471 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: just kind of channel surf on a given night you 472 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: could see three or four women's college basketball games on TV, 473 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: which is you know, it blows me away because I remember, 474 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: I still don't think my high school had a high 475 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: school girls basketball team, And I try to follow my 476 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 2: high school right now and the schools where I grew 477 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: up in the neighborhood in Brooklyn, and there are even 478 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: women coaching boys high school teams in Brooklyn, New York, 479 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: which I think is wonderful. I think what has happened 480 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: over the change in time, I think it's remarkable. 481 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: I really do. 482 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean I think that people don't see it from 483 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: day to day, but when you look back and look 484 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: at the big picture, what has happened with women's sports, 485 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: I think it's tremendous. 486 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: I really do. 487 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: I love it because women deserve the opportunity to deserve 488 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 2: the chance, and now they're getting it. 489 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, look they are getting They're just due. 490 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: The game is continue to grow, and look, it's the 491 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 5: popularity of the stars, like people talk about Kaitlin Clark 492 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: and Angelies and some of the other ladies that have 493 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 5: really helped elevate this game on top of the solid 494 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 5: foundation that's been coming, but it has become a phenomenon. 495 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 5: More people are tuning in, more people have respect and 496 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 5: reverence for the players and the way the game is played, 497 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: and so all of that is terrific, and we'll get 498 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 5: a chance to see it midday. 499 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: It should be fine. 500 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, who do you like? Just asking you right now, 501 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: who do you think is take that game? 502 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: It's because win. Look, Connecticut has played well. 503 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: South Carolina has not played great, but they continued to 504 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: dismantle people and they played their best game in the 505 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 5: final four semi. To me, I think it's destined you 506 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: can go back to back, So give me South Carolina. 507 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: There you go. 508 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: All right, he's Bucky Brooks. 509 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: You get him on Twitter, get him on X whatever 510 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: you want to call it at Bucket Brooks hot, Andy 511 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: Furman FSR, or you can use my bell at eight 512 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven seven 513 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. Of course we've 514 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: got to ask Bucket this hour. 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Tune into count Down presented by 524 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right here on 525 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and of course the wonderful iHeartRadio. 526 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 4: Now who was more impressive? 527 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: That's next. 528 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 529 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 530 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to 531 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 7: listen live. 532 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: Who needs an agent? Well, we'll explain that in just 533 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and 534 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: we are Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. 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And by the way, Bucky Brooks and 545 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: Andy Furman right now, we're live for the tire Rap 546 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Now let's get into this. Because they 547 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: had what they call I guess showcase day or I 548 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: don't know what you'd call practice into a practice NFL 549 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: practice day in Colorado, which you quote, were you there? 550 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: Were you there, Bucket? 551 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: Did you know we were? 552 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 5: I was covering it from studio, so we had a 553 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 5: chance to see everything that was taking place. 554 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: It was Colorado Showcase. 555 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 5: They didn't want to call it the pro Dame because 556 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 5: they were showcasing their talent, showcasing the talent was going 557 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 5: to make the way to the NFL. 558 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: Okay, and Shadoor Sanders was there being showcased. I guess 559 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter as well, and it looked like a lot 560 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: of people were there with their jaws dropping out because 561 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: they had teams from the Titans staff and the Titans, 562 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: the Browns, the Giants, the teams picking one, two, and three, 563 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: and obviously those are the three teams that probably need 564 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 2: a quarterback. So shaud Door Sanders came away and I 565 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: think you're the one that told me this that Brian Callahan, 566 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: coach of the Titans, said that Shoudoor Sanders reminds him 567 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow. 568 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: Right going back into January, he was quoting in an 569 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 5: article that you can find on ESPN dot com, and 570 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 5: he talked about the similarities between Shuduer Sammers and Joe Burrow, 571 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 5: and he basically talked about the aspects of the games 572 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 5: that are similar, and he talked about Shader Sanders being 573 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 5: a touch, timing and anticipatory thrower much like Joe Burrow's 574 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 5: superpowers are his touch, his time, and his anticipation, his 575 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 5: diagnostic skills. He was saying that with Chadur's skill set, 576 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: those guys can see it in a different way without 577 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 5: having what we call the premier talent or the A 578 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 5: plus arm talent and athleticism that's some of the quarterbacks 579 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 5: in the league have. 580 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: And so he's making that comparison, all right. 581 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: So right now, I think that people came away not 582 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: only impressed with Shador Sanders, but even more so with 583 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. And I got to believe with Travis Hunter, 584 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 2: who's going to play both ways and he could very 585 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 2: well play and Dion said this that he could play 586 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: both ways in the NFL. 587 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 4: He may very well be the best player in the draft. 588 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: So do you draft now for these teams like the Titans, 589 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: Brown and Giants? 590 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: Do you draft for need? Will you draft for the 591 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: best player in the draft? 592 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: Well, you can't go wrong if you take the best 593 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: player in the draft. 594 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: That said, you got to have a playing for filling 595 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 5: up your quarterback room. Like, what is the plan if 596 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 5: you don't take one of the draft, who we're going 597 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 5: to take? Who are we going to get to be 598 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 5: a starting quarterback? Kenny Pickett is only quarterback in the building. 599 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: So if you're gonna roll with Kenny Pickett, okay, everyone 600 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 5: has to get comfortable with him being the starting quarterback 601 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 5: or are you waiting for Atlanta to dump Kirk Cousins, 602 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: Then you're gonna have a competition between Kirk Cousins and 603 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett. I mean, maybe that's the case. But even then, 604 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, the last time we watched him play did 605 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 5: not end well. He was benched in the middle of 606 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 5: the year because he had a stretch where we had 607 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 5: one touchdown eight interceptions. 608 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: I mean it's hard to win. 609 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: We'll see if Kevin Stefanski, if he likes Kirk Cousins, 610 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: if he's willing. 611 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: To see if he can turn back the clock. 612 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I don't know if an older 613 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 5: quarterback can bounce back and bounce back at the high level. 614 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Right, especially with his injuries. Coming off those injuries and 615 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: he didn't have a good year. He really did not 616 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: have a good year in Atlanta, that's for sure. But 617 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: you talk about quarters, and I think that if Shadua 618 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: Standers isn't the number one quarterback taken, probably cam Ward, 619 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: the quarterback for Miami of Florida, is going to be 620 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: going and he's probably going to get like a four 621 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: year deal, get about forty mili. I would think, right 622 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: if he is the number one pick in the NFL 623 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Draft and the draft, believe it or not, it's like 624 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 2: eighteen days away April of twenty fourth. All right, I 625 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: was ringing up about cam Ward for a second, and 626 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 2: he says he's going to go without or at least 627 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 2: till now, he has no traditional agent. Caleb Williams did 628 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: it last year when he's picked number one overall by 629 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. So his father said, And this was 630 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: like in USA today. The other day his father said 631 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: that he's still evaluating the agent. Now in the slotting 632 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 2: scenario in the National Football League, you probably don't need 633 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: an agent. If you're the number one pick, you're going 634 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 2: to get what slotted to you. Is that correct? So 635 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: what's the point of giving the agent? What does he 636 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: get like three percent of year contract? Why would you 637 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: do that when you're going to get the X amount 638 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: of dollars. 639 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, I'll say. 640 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 5: This, and I understand and people who like to have 641 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 5: their independence and like to do things on their own. 642 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: But Andy, when you get sick, you go to a doctor. 643 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 5: Right When you have issues with the are as, you 644 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 5: go and consult an accountant or a tax consultant. When 645 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: you need professional help with major issues, you go see 646 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 5: a professional that understands the landscaping can help you navigate that. 647 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 5: If you're can ward, you're going to be the number 648 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 5: one overall pick. You don't need to scamp it on 649 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 5: a few pennies to avoid representation when a representation can 650 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 5: help you map out a path to make even more money. 651 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 5: The way that you approach things, the way that you 652 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 5: do things, and that now if you want to negotiate 653 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: on that feed where you don't want to give three 654 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 5: percent or whatever, like, Okay, that's fine, there's some room there. 655 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: But to go without representation, yeah, I think it's a 656 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: bad idea because you need to have someone that can 657 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 5: take those hard, hard phone calls, who can advocate for 658 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 5: yourself and put you in a position to make even 659 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: more money and you can focus on the business at hand, 660 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: which is being the best player that you can be, 661 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: being the best teammate, and ultimately helping your team be 662 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 5: the best team that they can be. 663 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 4: How did you pick an agent coming out of college? 664 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: So my agent was. 665 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 5: My roommate was represented by a guy, and I watched 666 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 5: their plight and the familiarity watching what he did for 667 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 5: my roommate led me to go with him. Now, I'll 668 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: say that's not always the best way and unfortunate when 669 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 5: it comes to athletes and representation. You don't know what 670 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: you need until you need it, meaning every agent, every 671 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: firm is not the right fit for you. So you 672 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: have to have a clear kind of vision for what 673 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 5: you want from your representative, and sometimes it's a going 674 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 5: to the big conglomerate and a great agent from that 675 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 5: big firm. Sometimes it's a mom and pop shop with 676 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 5: a guy who really can tend to your every need 677 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: because he doesn't have a huge client list. A lot 678 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: of it depends on instinct and feel and touch. 679 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: It's a very very. 680 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 5: Difficult decision because you don't really know what they do 681 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 5: until you need them to do it. 682 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: I was tall by various players throughout the years. The 683 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: reason you want to have an agent, there's not so 684 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: much he's to negotiate a good contract for you, which 685 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: you probably will, is the fact that he's going to 686 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: take all the lumps because when you negotiate with a team, 687 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: they will tell you everything you can't do, and you 688 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: don't want to handle it. You don't want to hear 689 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: that stuff. You know you're okay, but you know, we 690 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: don't know what kind of past you are. If you're 691 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: a quarterback, but we don't know if you could run 692 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: the football or you know your experience. Maybe you're not 693 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: too tall, your hands aren't that big. So it's the 694 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: agent that's going to deflect that negativity that you're going 695 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: to have to hear, and you don't want to hear it, 696 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: so let him do it. 697 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: Is that correct? That's what I've heard. 698 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, there is something to that, Like I 699 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 5: don't know, like in your broadcast career, if you've had representation, 700 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: if you had an agent, if you did it on 701 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: your own. 702 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 3: I've gone about it both ways. 703 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: I started out without representation, so I had to do 704 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 5: everything and I had to listen to those conversations, and 705 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 5: that part is not the hard part. 706 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: The hard part when you're working without representation is. 707 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 5: Finding the next or the new opportunities that are out there. 708 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 5: You don't have your ear to the street, so you 709 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 5: don't know what's about to come around the corner. 710 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: In the industry, your agent. 711 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 5: They're supposed to be up on that to be able 712 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 5: to guide you in counselor you through these situations while 713 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 5: having an eye towards the future and the way the 714 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 5: industry is going. There's some value to having someone around 715 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 5: who understands that, who also can have those hard conversations 716 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 5: with management and those things to make sure that you're 717 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 5: treated fairly and compensated to the best that you can 718 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 5: be compensated, giving your status within the team. 719 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: You know. 720 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: According to the NFLPA, out of the more than two 721 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: thousand players right now in the NFL, only twenty nine 722 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: do not have a certified agent to represent them. That's 723 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: an amazing situation. However, Colorado Shuder Sanders, who we started 724 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: talking about here, he doesn't have a certified agent either, 725 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: according to the NFL Players Association. 726 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 4: Neither does his brother Shiloh. 727 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: So I guess with Coach Prime as their dad, is 728 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: a good opportunity that Coach Prime may do some of 729 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: that negotiation for them. I would think, maybe, I don't 730 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: know what aready have. 731 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: A team in place. 732 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 5: Remember, he has, like Prime has won the best agents 733 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 5: when it comes to his off field stuff in constant 734 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: sports and her team and as evidenced by the five year, 735 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 5: fifty four million dollars deal that he got, the countless 736 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: marketing campaigns. He's been a part of the partnerships that 737 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 5: he set up. He has a solid team around him. 738 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 5: I would expect him to put a solid team around 739 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: his kids to ensure they have a lot of success 740 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 5: on and off the field. 741 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I would think that the day of 742 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: the agent. I'm not going to say it is waning. 743 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: It's never going to go away, but I think the 744 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: big chain is nil because players are coming into the 745 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: NFL right now with a pocket full of change, which 746 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: they had not done prior. So maybe the look for 747 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: the agent situation is not going to be that great. 748 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I think the NIL 749 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: is changing the whole concept of agents. 750 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's changing the whole concept, but it's actually providing 751 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: a pathway. 752 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 3: For agents to get around kids younger. 753 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 5: Now what you're seeing is if I have an agency 754 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 5: where I represent NFL players, I also have an arm 755 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: of that agency that represents college players looking for NIL opportunities. 756 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 5: Now I'm able to get my hooks in the players early. 757 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 5: We're beginning to build the relationships early, and it's not 758 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: this mad dash to speed day to see if you 759 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 5: can get representation before. You know more on both sides, 760 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 5: and so it helps you make these decisions that are 761 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: best for you and your family and your opportunities. 762 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: All Right, So you were happy with your agent, that's 763 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: for sure. Did you have this agent whole career? 764 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, the same you got the entire time. 765 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 5: I can't say that he was without whatever, but I 766 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 5: think now, in looking back, I also know what I 767 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: didn't know and how I could have benefited. So, look, 768 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 5: he was good for me at the time. I think neted. 769 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 5: I know more like who knows what would happen? 770 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. All right, let's talk about 771 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: trying to supply for a second. But Track to Supply 772 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 2: knows that a winning season takes practice, teamwork, and a 773 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: can do attitude. Thankfully, when you have a neighbor like 774 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: try to supply team where it comes easy, whether you're 775 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: caring for pets, chickens or a few acres. 776 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 4: Our team members will help you succeed. 777 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios Bracket Challenge at Foxportsradio dot com. 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That means changing the 800 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 2: location of its first two rounds and first four rounds 801 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 2: to neutral sites rather than school campuses. 802 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: Your thoughts on that. 803 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 5: Man, I'm split, but I will say I like them 804 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 5: saying on camp because the environment you have a rabbit 805 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 5: fan base that's going to show up all the time. 806 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 5: I think when you go to all neutral sites, you 807 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 5: order it down a little bit. 808 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: Doesn't have the same festive atmosphere. 809 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 5: I remember the hasd the have nots we've seen traditionally, 810 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 5: they're not a lot of upsets in women's basketball. 811 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 2: You're exactly right. Let's talk football for a second. In 812 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: the NFL, and we know that the NFL probably is 813 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: the most popular sport. I think it is the most 814 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: popular sport in the USFA right now. So the question 815 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: is to have these spring leagues, the USFL, whatever it 816 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: may be. Why can't those leagues capitalize on the success 817 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: of the NFL. The ratings are through the roof on 818 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: the NFL, and the ratings are not even half that 819 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: which leagues at the USFL. I don't understand that it's 820 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: the same sport. Why can't they do it? 821 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 5: I would say that it's been the entire employ of 822 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 5: the marketing. The reason why you can't replicate it is 823 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: because twenty four to seven, three sixty five, the NFL 824 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 5: has done a great job of marketing as product. The 825 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 5: other guys have some name cache, but not enough to 826 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 5: sustain it. With the NFL, it's about the team and 827 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 5: about the individual stars. 828 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: With these new leagues, you can't really get. 829 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 5: To know the stars well enough to fall in love 830 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 5: with a new team. 831 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: Is it maybe too much? 832 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 2: I mean less is more because the seasons start finished, 833 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: super Bowl over end and then you don't want to 834 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: start all over again. It's time for a rest and 835 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 2: move on to something else or the season. Maybe it's 836 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 2: springing summer, it's not football time. 837 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't figure it out. 838 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 8: Yeah. 839 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: No, Look, there's a viable market for it. You just 840 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: haven't been able to do it. 841 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 5: The numbers have never reached what the NFL's numbers are, 842 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 5: and so you have to quit aiming for that. You're 843 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 5: trying to find a good product that works as long 844 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 5: as there's gambling, though, there always been an appetite for it. 845 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 5: You just got to figure out a way to make 846 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 5: the product good enough for the old school purists to 847 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 5: football people to want to check it out. 848 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 4: There we go. 849 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 2: Okay, back to the NFL. The nflush push vote seems 850 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: to have been pushed. What do you think? Do you agree? 851 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 852 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 5: I agree because it was silly. If you can't stop 853 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 5: the play, you need to work on it more. This 854 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 5: was nothing that was due to fact, your data, or 855 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 5: health and safety. And this was all an opinion, an 856 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 5: opinion that more people could get hurt, could but we 857 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 5: don't have any proof that they are. 858 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: So what are we doing. I'm glad they tabled it. 859 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully they go away. 860 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 861 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: Basically, I think that the people who voted with about 862 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: the green Bay Packers are others. They couldn't stop it, 863 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: so that's why they want to get rid of it. 864 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 3: Not a good Absolutely. 865 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 4: I think it's great. I think it's good for the game. 866 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: I think it's fun. 867 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: It really is all right the NFL again, the NFL 868 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 2: expands the TV show on HBO Hard Knocks, and they 869 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: got the new pool of teams. Is that a good 870 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: move or a bad news move? And I have some 871 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 2: of the teams that basically are in this pool. If 872 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: you're interested, what do you. 873 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, give me some teams. I'll say quickly. 874 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 5: It is a good thing because you saw people that 875 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 5: reacted poorly to the Giant situation the off season Hart Knocks. 876 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 5: You have to expand the pool to eventually get a 877 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 5: team to say, yes, well. 878 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 4: You know what. 879 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: They may have responded poorly to the Giants, but I 880 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: think there was a lot of information out there because 881 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: we saw ownership really didn't want to see Saquon Barkley go. 882 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 4: That was kind of a big news story. So that 883 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 4: wasn't too bad. 884 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. That was a good thing for him. 885 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you the teams and you tell me 886 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: ya and A because there's twenty teams that are eligible 887 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: right now in the AFC East, the Bills and the Dolphins. 888 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: M Bills for sure, all right, Dolphins. 889 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 2: AFCO, me too, AFC North, Bengals, Ravens, Steelers. 890 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 5: Any of those, any of those seems I will be okay. 891 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 5: But raven still has come to the top of the list. 892 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 5: But having watched end season hard knocks with them, I 893 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 5: know they all would represent well. 894 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go down the list quickly now, Colts, Texans, Titans. 895 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nobody from there, Broncos, Chiefs, Broncos. I'll see 896 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: how Son frem is. 897 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 4: A team Commander's Eagles, Giants. 898 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: I'll take Commanders, oh, commanders all day, right, Packers, Vikings, Oh. 899 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 3: Vikings, Kevin O'Connell. See how he goes to work. 900 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: Falcons, Panthers, Cards and Seahawks. That's it, Okay, who's the best? 901 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 4: BUCkies? 902 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 8: Next? 903 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 4: Right here on Fox? All right? 904 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: Who is the best? I think Bucket Brooks is, But 905 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: that's right around the corner. This is Fox Sports Sunday 906 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Ready he is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy 907 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: Ferman And by the way, we're broadcasting live from the 908 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: TI I Rack Dot com Studios, tire rack dot com 909 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: we'll help you get there, and unmatched selection fans, free shipping, 910 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: free road as a protection, and over ten thousand recommended 911 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: in storeless, ti rack dot com the way tire buying 912 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: should be. And Buck, we're going to get into the 913 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 2: kind of a review a little bit of the semi 914 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: finals yesterday in college basketball NCAA setting up the championship 915 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 2: game for tomorrow night, which would be the Cougars of 916 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: Houston against the Gators of Florida. 917 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 4: And I'm sure you watched. 918 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: It in any surprises in your mind because at Houston game, 919 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 2: trailing by fourteen with about eight and a half minutes 920 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: to go, and they came back the improbable comeback. You know, 921 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 2: I still believe it was a collapse in the putt 922 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: of Duke. But again, as you said early on, Houston 923 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: made them collapse. 924 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, Houston didn't make them collapse the pressure on them, 925 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 5: I would say the biggest surprise for me was how 926 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 5: bad Houston shot to start. They've been a team that's 927 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 5: been fairly efficient on offense, and to see them really 928 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 5: really stumbled out the gates to me with surprising. But 929 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 5: the one thing in watching the game It never fully 930 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 5: felt like Duke was in complete control of the game. 931 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 5: It was just a matter of could they get enough 932 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 5: stops in Forest Duke. They have to play at the end, 933 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 5: which is what they were able to do. 934 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the question I have, and I'm sure you 935 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 2: know you played the game at the highest level you 936 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 2: were in the National Football League. 937 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 4: Losing a game like that, what does it do? 938 00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 3: Is it? 939 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 4: Kind of to me? It was deze you. 940 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 2: I would rather lose by fifteen twenty twenty five points 941 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: than lose that way, To hold on to a lead, 942 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 2: lose the lead and lose the game the way they 943 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: did it was kind of, as I say, demoralizing seventeen 944 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 2: sixty seven. And what does a coach say, Have you 945 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: been involved in a situation like. 946 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 4: That throughout your career? And what does a coach. 947 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: Come in and tell a team who basically the coach 948 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: feels like two cents anyway? How does he come in 949 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: there kind of to rally the troops and say, I 950 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: love you guys. 951 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't that bad. But it was that bad. It 952 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 4: really was. 953 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: Look at me. 954 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 5: I think if you're john Shaw, you use it as 955 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 5: a teaching opportunity. 956 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: You encourage them you thank them for their efforts. 957 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 5: You talk about how those who return will learn from 958 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 5: the opportunity when you get here, and look, you always 959 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 5: give them honest assessment, but I don't think you have 960 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 5: to browbeat them at the time. The kids feel bad 961 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 5: enough knowing that they lost. It was huge implications that 962 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 5: they had a chance to go play for the national 963 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 5: title and they lost, and so they have to live 964 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 5: with that forever, because no matter what happens, they have 965 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 5: to earn it all over again. 966 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 3: They have to earn the right to do it all 967 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: over again. There's no easy way to the title, and 968 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: for some of those guys there. 969 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 5: Won't be another opportunity. It is the last chance, and 970 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: you know, it just makes it tough. But if you, 971 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 5: John Shire, you take the good moments from the season, 972 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 5: you talk about all the incredible moments along the way 973 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 5: that puts you in position to get to the final four. 974 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 5: The final four should be a bit of a destination. 975 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 5: And so, yeah, it was a good season, just came 976 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 5: up short. 977 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: Let's find that. Let's hear directly from the duke coach, 978 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: John Shire. Let's hear from John Hell coach. 979 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 4: What's up. 980 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 9: Well, it's hard to process still and you know, I 981 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 9: thought our guys did an incredible job the whole game, 982 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 9: and you know, I thought we had some good looks, 983 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 9: didn't finish. You have to give Houston a ton of credit. 984 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 9: And then still even with that, you know, we have 985 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 9: the lead with under a minute ago, and I couldn't 986 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 9: be more proud. 987 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not about to hang around. 988 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 9: I mean, this is part of it. You got to 989 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 9: you gotta handle the wins, and you got to handle 990 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 9: the losses too. And in a moment like this, you 991 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 9: know we're this close, and you know we felt we 992 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 9: were the best team. The best team tonight was Houston. 993 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: It amazes me John Shire, coach of the Duke. I mean, 994 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: he's got to be staring at that stat sheet after 995 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: the game because that team started the game shooting one 996 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: for nine. As you mentioned, Buckie, they didn't shoot well 997 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: at all, one for nine, three for fifteen, five to 998 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 2: twenty five from the field, but they outrebounded Duke by eleven. 999 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 2: They scored nineteen second chance points against the Blue Devils, okay, 1000 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: and they trailed by fourteen with about eleven and a 1001 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: half minutes to go. They held Duke to three points 1002 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: in the final three minutes and Houston shot even worse. 1003 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: They shot thirty seven percent, but they had eighteen offensive 1004 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: rebound set. And that's something you don't coach. I think 1005 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 2: that's something in your heart, in your chest. I mean, 1006 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: you just want to get it. I mean, you can't 1007 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 2: tell a kid how to grab an offensive rebound. 1008 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 4: It's something you want, right. 1009 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean, there's certain things in sports that really can't 1010 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: be coached. It's something that it's a desire. 1011 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like there's certain things that can be coached. 1012 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 5: And so every day you have to bring the urges 1013 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 5: and energy to get better, and if you do it 1014 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 5: enough and practice, it becomes second nature in the game. 1015 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 5: That's what Kevin Sampson has always harped on, Man, play hard. 1016 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 5: Just focus on playing hard, great attitude and effort. They'll 1017 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 5: fix everything else on the back end. And if you 1018 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 5: play hard, you give terrific effort with a great attitude, 1019 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 5: you're gonna have a chance. And then it comes down 1020 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 5: to making a handful of plays and if you're good enough, 1021 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: you'll make it. 1022 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 4: Kelvin Sampson in the Hall of Fame? Is he a 1023 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame coach? 1024 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 3: I say yes, yes, yes, without question. 1025 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 2: And least, but not least, we'll talk about these Hall 1026 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: of Fame coaches. I don't understand why Digger Phillips is 1027 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 2: not in the Hall of Fame coach of Notre Dame. 1028 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, I just I don't 1029 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: understand why he has not gotten in there. 1030 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 4: What he did before he went to Notre Dame, what 1031 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 4: he did to. 1032 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 2: Fordham was that Fordham can't buy a win right now. 1033 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 2: He had New York City. What Saint John's and Rick 1034 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: Patino did this year to New York City, That's what 1035 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: Digga Phelps did in nineteen seventy one, seventy two to 1036 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 2: for them. Really, I mean, and then he goes to 1037 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 2: Notre damon wins. I know he never won to an 1038 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 2: NCAA title, but him into the final four. 1039 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 4: I don't get it. I don't understand why Digga Phelps 1040 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 4: is not in the Hall of Fame. 1041 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's weird because he has some notable wins going on, 1042 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 5: back to when he knocked off you said, when they 1043 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 5: were the powerhouse. 1044 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 4: Right fifty five game with win streak. 1045 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 5: Yes, he's elevated the game. But being a commentator, he's 1046 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 5: like so many great things. I am shocked that he's 1047 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 5: not included. 1048 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 2: And plus I read this too, he graduated every one 1049 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 2: of his athletes, which I think is it's a plus. 1050 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 2: I think that means something. I mean, maybe not to 1051 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame voters, but at least to me, 1052 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 2: it meant something. 1053 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 4: It really did. We'll see, maybe eventually he'll get in. 1054 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 4: All right, we'll see. 1055 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 2: But now we move on to the NFL and the 1056 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 2: NFL Draft. I can't believe it's only eighteen days to go. 1057 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 2: And and really I have to think, although we're talking 1058 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 2: NCAA basketball, I think the NFL Draft is bigger news 1059 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: than the NCAA tournament. I think people go crazy over that. 1060 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: It's not even a sporting event. It's just an event. 1061 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: But people love the NFL Draft. 1062 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: Really. 1063 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be in Green Bay this year. 1064 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: It'll be on TV and you see all these lunatics 1065 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: out there. It'll be like sub zero's weather in Green Bay, 1066 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,399 Speaker 2: probably even though it's in April. But people just line 1067 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 2: up and they go to the draft. In cities clamber 1068 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 2: to have the draft and their city, and economically it 1069 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: helps hotels, restaurants, whatever it may be. But I mean, 1070 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 2: the draft is a big deal. Have if you ever 1071 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 2: attended the NFL Draft. 1072 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 5: Yes, I have attended the NFL Draft intended back to 1073 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 5: back years in Chicago. I did it one time in 1074 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 5: New York. Great atmosphere, great energy, being in a villain. 1075 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 5: But that's a lot of work, A lot of work. 1076 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 4: I bet it is. 1077 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 2: I mean, but I guess the NFL Draft is a 1078 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 2: bit because it's the hope for the future for not 1079 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: only fans, but for teams alike. I mean, they pick 1080 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 2: a play and hopefully that play or players will help 1081 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 2: them achieve success down the row. So look, we move 1082 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 2: along and talk about the draft. Bucket Brooks, as always 1083 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 2: AUTHORANFL dot com, you have the top ten defenders to 1084 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 2: build the team around, and why. 1085 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 4: Did you pick these guys? In how did you pick 1086 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 4: these guys? 1087 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's one of these things where you're looking 1088 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 5: for foundational pieces, guys that play critical positions in a 1089 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 5: league that is a passing league, and when you think 1090 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 5: about how you want to do it, you want young guys, 1091 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 5: guys who are about to enter their prime so you 1092 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 5: can have them for that three to four year run 1093 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 5: in their prime. And as I prioritize the position, you'll notice, 1094 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 5: like there are a ton of pass rushers on there 1095 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 5: and only a handful of corners. Well, the front end 1096 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 5: impacts the back end far more than the back end 1097 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 5: can impact the front end. 1098 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 3: So if you can. 1099 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 5: Rush the passer, it has a greater effect on the 1100 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 5: quarterback in the passing game than just having a lockdown corner. 1101 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm glad you mentioned that. Rushing the passer 1102 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: and being a sack leader, which the Cincinnati Bengal sack 1103 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 2: leader and he led the league, Troy Henderson, it was 1104 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: not on your list? Was he even considered? And is 1105 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: there even a market for this guy? We're going to 1106 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: get into that a little later on today, but I mean, 1107 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 2: he's got some problems with his contract negotiations with the 1108 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. But was he on your list or was 1109 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 2: he considered to be on your list? 1110 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 5: He was considered to be on the list, But I 1111 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 5: don't know, Like, when we think about the Cincinnati Bengals 1112 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 5: and who they're built around, it is clear they've bilt 1113 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 5: around Joe Burrow, like that's who it is, and so 1114 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 5: I can't see a scenario where Henderson would ever be 1115 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 5: the guy that you're like, hey, we're just. 1116 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: Gonna build completely around him. 1117 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 5: There has to be a transcendent nature or feel to 1118 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 5: your game that you're like, hey, look, we can't lose him. 1119 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 3: He's hard to replace. 1120 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 5: No disrespect to Trey Henderson, but does a feeling that 1121 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 5: I have it maybe the league has that you can 1122 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 5: find someone to do what he does. 1123 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 3: You know, and he's a really good player, a great player. 1124 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 5: But I think that prevailing sense is the difference between 1125 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 5: him and Miles Garrett arguing for money at the contract table. 1126 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 2: Right, and I think Miles Garrett has done it consistently. 1127 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 2: I think this was almost a breakout year for Trey Hendrickson. 1128 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: Am I correct on that? I mean Trey Hendrickson just 1129 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 2: almost came out of nowhere. And again, if you were 1130 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 2: to look at Trey Henderson's stats, and I looked at 1131 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 2: them the other day, he grabs thet he gets the quarterback, 1132 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 2: you know, he'll sack the quarterback. He's not strong at 1133 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 2: stopping the run. And against the Ravens this year, against 1134 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 2: the Eagles, he didn't have any sacks. So although he 1135 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 2: led the league in sacks, he didn't do much against 1136 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 2: two good teams Ravens and Eagles. 1137 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I also say this, I think double digit 1138 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 5: sacks in either two or three of the last couple 1139 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 5: of years. He's always at the top of the charts. 1140 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,479 Speaker 5: He's a hard working player. I mean he works hard, 1141 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 5: high motor energy is they're a great technician, mister Miyagi. 1142 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 3: Like with his hands, all those things. 1143 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 5: I think it just comes down to when we're talking 1144 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 5: about franchise, there has to be some prototype or some 1145 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 5: pedigree involved in that for you to say that a 1146 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 5: this is who build around. I think it's hard to 1147 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 5: build around later round picks. 1148 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 4: Right, and again you're right. 1149 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 2: I think the Bengals run out by signing Jim ar 1150 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 2: Chasin and t Higgins. They've told everybody in the league 1151 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: and fans alike that you know, we're an offensive team. 1152 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: You know we're gonna be Our strength is gonna be offense, 1153 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 2: and we're gonna win games this year like you know, 1154 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 2: forty five forty That's how They're just gonna outscore opponents. 1155 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: They'll give up points, but they're gonna score more. Hopefully, 1156 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: that's what they want to do, I would think. 1157 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 5: And they should have their capability. It should look like 1158 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 5: the old school Indianapolis Coots. Score early, then have your 1159 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 5: defense preserved to leave. That's how they would ideally like 1160 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 5: to play. 1161 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: All right, now here, here's the bucket Brooks list, and 1162 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 2: hopefully we can get through ten. But I'm gonna start 1163 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 2: with one first. I'm not gonna make it really dramatic 1164 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 2: because some people start with the higher number move down 1165 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: to one. Now, we'll start with number one. And I 1166 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 2: think that there's no surprise here, Michael Parsons, I mean 1167 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 2: from the Dallas Cowboys, who basically right now is looking 1168 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 2: for a contract. And we'll get into that down the 1169 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,919 Speaker 2: road too. But you say he's the ultimate front line 1170 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 2: hybrid force. What does that mean hybrid force? 1171 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 5: Well, he played off ball linebacker. He't come off either edge. 1172 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 5: You just never know where his whereabouts. And because of that, 1173 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 5: and because he's so good at doing so many different things, 1174 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 5: that creates k I said, a lone of scrimmage. He's 1175 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 5: a really talented athletic free you add that with driving, determination, 1176 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 5: motor energy. 1177 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: He overwhelms everybody. That's why he's number one on my lists. 1178 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: And it's hard to believe he's a fifth year pro already. 1179 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 2: I can't believe that he's been in the pros five 1180 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: years already. It's It's like he was there yesterday. But 1181 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: he's the heck of a player. And I don't even 1182 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 2: understand why. And again we'll get down the road and 1183 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 2: talk about that. Why Dallas is waiting a situation like 1184 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, they could have gotten Jamar Chase a year ago, 1185 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 2: probably for twenty. 1186 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 4: Million dollars less. 1187 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 2: And it's the same thing in Dallas that could have 1188 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 2: signed Michael Parson's last year. But now the going rates 1189 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 2: up thanks to Miles Garrett, and you know that's gonna 1190 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: be I mean, I guess ownership. 1191 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 4: Why why do they wait? 1192 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the what's the upside of waiting to 1193 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 2: sign a long term contract? They want to see if 1194 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 2: the guy gets hurt. I mean, what's what's the point. 1195 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 2: I don't get it. You're just gonna end up paying more. 1196 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got to get you ducks in the row. 1197 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 3: It's a big payment. You know. 1198 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 5: You got to save up, man, like you just don't have, 1199 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 5: you know, one hundred and sixty million dollars cash to 1200 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 5: just give a weight and you got to put that 1201 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 5: money and escor immediately. 1202 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 3: That's a lot of money to go away. 1203 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 5: You got to scratch up a lot of funds to 1204 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 5: be able to pay for some of these toys and 1205 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 5: trinkets that you want on the team. That's why it 1206 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 5: takes so long. And for Jerry Jones, he has to win. 1207 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 5: He has to feel like he's winning every negotiation. This 1208 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 5: was one that didn't have a true negotiation, but everyone 1209 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 5: knew what it was and so they just got to 1210 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 5: see if they going to read lent or not. 1211 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 2: All right, I will say he's gonna be signed. There's 1212 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind. Dallas is gonna sign him in. 1213 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 2: But you know for what price? Number two and he 1214 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 2: has been signed Miles Garrett and then it's a situation there. 1215 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: You said he didn't want to play for Cleveland and 1216 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 2: think they're a winner, but the money changed his mind 1217 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: rather quickly. It really did so. In other words, if 1218 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,919 Speaker 2: Cleveland doesn't go to the playoffs this year, he'll still 1219 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 2: be happy because he got his money. 1220 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 4: Right. 1221 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the direct present makes everything feel better. And 1222 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 5: so he had the big he had a big check. 1223 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 5: He's paid. 1224 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 3: He changed his tune on Cleveland real quick. 1225 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 5: People ask me what happened the check? The check happened. 1226 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 5: It made her change his mind. And so he's twenty 1227 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 5: nine years always gonna be thirty soon. He's talking about 1228 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 5: Wane to win in Cleveland, and he may do that. 1229 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 5: But now this was about securing the bag. He secured 1230 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 5: the bag with the big deal. 1231 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: Okay, he was the twenty twenty three Defensive Player of 1232 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 2: the Year. He became the youngest player to reach one 1233 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 2: hundred sacks in NFL history. He has over one hundred 1234 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 2: and two right now in twenty twenty four, and he 1235 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 2: has ten plus sacks and seven straight years. What makes 1236 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,479 Speaker 2: this guy so good? 1237 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 4: Why can he be stopped by other defenses, well by 1238 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 4: on the offensive line. 1239 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand. I mean, if you know he's coming, 1240 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: why can't you stop him. 1241 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 3: He's a freak athlete. Excuse me. 1242 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 5: He's a freak athlete with unique traits size, athleticism, wiggle, 1243 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 5: can turn speed into power, has developed a few intriguing 1244 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 5: past rush maneuvers that really make him tough to deal with, 1245 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 5: and it puts defenders. 1246 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 3: On their heels at all times. Look, he's gifted. 1247 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he's a gifted player with the athleticism and stuff, 1248 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 5: but he also has become a more technically sound playmaker 1249 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 5: as well. 1250 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 4: Okay, I think maybe I'm mistaken. Is TJ. 1251 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,959 Speaker 2: Watt three on your list or no, Yeah, he's up there, 1252 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 2: so let's go. 1253 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 4: Let's go with t J. Well, I think you had 1254 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 4: the cornerback from the Broncos too. 1255 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 3: Oh, Passer ten was up there right right. I think 1256 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 3: I think he's three. 1257 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 4: Okay, so you. 1258 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 5: Had Passer ten. Yeah, Passer ten reigning Defensive Player of 1259 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 5: the Year. He makes life easy for Vance Joseph and 1260 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 5: those guys. He can blanket the field. He can do 1261 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 5: using a variety of different techniques. He is under the 1262 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,280 Speaker 5: radar guy because he doesn't seek the limelight or the fanfare, 1263 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,959 Speaker 5: but he just gets the job done. When I'm thinking 1264 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 5: about building the team, and particularly on defense, I'm thinking 1265 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 5: past rush. I'm trinking an elite corner. He's one of 1266 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 5: the few eliite corners in the league. 1267 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 2: You know what's funny, you talk about it under the radar. 1268 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: I have to think at this point in time, and 1269 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,760 Speaker 2: it's certainly kind of crazy to talk NFL where teams 1270 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 2: will end up next year. But I think that Denver 1271 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 2: Broncos team is under the raidar. I think they're gonna 1272 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 2: do rather well next year. 1273 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 4: I really do. 1274 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 3: Oh. Okay, so that's your Super Bowl pick. 1275 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 4: That's well, definitely playoffs. 1276 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,800 Speaker 5: And then what we're talking about they made the playoffs 1277 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 5: last year. It sounds like you like we're talking about yeah, 1278 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds like you're ready to go all 1279 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 5: in on them. 1280 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 3: So I don't know, all in them. 1281 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 5: You can't say, hey, they're gonna be good and they're 1282 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 5: gonna get back to the same spot where they were. 1283 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 5: But that's a disappointment being a wildcard team being in 1284 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 5: the tournament. So like go bold, like say to your 1285 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 5: super Bowl team, you're dark words. 1286 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 4: Let me wait to lift the draft. 1287 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 2: Let me see what they get, all right, I wait 1288 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 2: to lift the draft because you know, I really, I mean, 1289 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 2: I love the Commanders, but honestly, you know, I worry 1290 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 2: about how deep they'll go. You know, I think that 1291 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: I think they've made major progress, but you just don't know. 1292 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 2: And certainly you got to throw in the injury factor 1293 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,959 Speaker 2: because every year someone gets hurt. 1294 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 4: And that's just part of the game, it really is. 1295 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 4: Let's talk about TJ. Watt, all right? What makes him 1296 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 4: so good? You got to now his number four? 1297 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 2: He says, a great playmaker, one hundred eight career sacks. 1298 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 2: How did I mean the mindset of a guy who 1299 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: plays linebacker or a guy who was just a power rusher. 1300 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 2: What makes him that good? And you've seen these guys 1301 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: in practice for years because you were in the league. 1302 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 2: You know how do they do it? You know what 1303 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 2: what is the motivation? 1304 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean, if you're an offensive player like a Jamar Chase, 1305 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 4: you want to score a tight you know, you want 1306 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 4: to catch the football. I mean, what's the motivation with 1307 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 4: TJ Wat? I just want to go out there every 1308 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 4: week and get the quarterback? 1309 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: Is that it? 1310 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 5: No, it's a little more then just I want to 1311 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 5: go get the quarterback and that's it. I think it's 1312 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 5: a combination of understanding who you are and what athletic 1313 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 5: traits you possess. Is then taking those traits and finding 1314 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 5: a few techniques that work with you. 1315 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 3: Well. It's also about adding effort to your. 1316 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 5: Game, making sure that you are in all day sucker 1317 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 5: when it comes to playing, I'm gonna play from stamp 1318 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 5: to whistle. I'm a line up from stamped the whistle 1319 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 5: over and over and over again, and you're not going 1320 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 5: to see that. I'm overwhelmed. When he takes breaks, I 1321 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 5: would expect him to be more. I mean, a guy 1322 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 5: that can come off the edge and give you speed 1323 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 5: and power. 1324 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 3: And splash plays. All those things are important. 1325 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 5: And that's why when you go down and you look 1326 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 5: at the stat sheet, the splash plays to pick sixes, 1327 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 5: to force formals, the FuMB recoveries, all those things matter. 1328 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 3: That's what he's up there. 1329 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to run this by because you would 1330 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 2: have the answer. You played the game, and I love 1331 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 2: to pick your band like this going back to high school, 1332 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 2: college and even the pros. And if you call me 1333 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 2: a dummy, if you want to, because I got to 1334 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 2: believe that every kid, at least in the high school level, 1335 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 2: they want to play on the offensive side of the football. 1336 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to play defense because there's a it's not 1337 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 2: considered a quote skilled position, and B you know, honestly, 1338 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: there's no fame. There's no fame I'm playing on that 1339 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: side of the ball. There really isn't, right, and the 1340 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 2: big money is on the offensive side of the ball. 1341 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 2: So when you have a choice, I mean, you don't 1342 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 2: want to play defense, and you're in high school, the 1343 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 2: coach says, well, I don't want you running back. I'm 1344 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 2: going to put you as a linebacker. You know, you 1345 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 2: kind of frowned that you want to stay as a 1346 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 2: running back. You want to be a star, right, Isn't 1347 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: that it? 1348 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean it is? It is it? 1349 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 5: But how many people can put ego to the side 1350 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 5: for the betterment of winning and winning at a high level. 1351 00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 3: It depends on. 1352 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 5: If you want to be legend legendary, can you know, 1353 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 5: be defined in a few different ways. Sometimes it's a 1354 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 5: jersey in the Raptors that's legendary. Other times just key 1355 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 5: contributor on a championship team that's also legendary. It depends 1356 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 5: on what path you would like to take. And I 1357 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 5: just I just think about like what you're talking about, 1358 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 5: Like guys wanted to play offense and defense and all 1359 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 5: this sud this to be a conversation we have to 1360 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 5: have with Travis Hunter. Offense is fascinating because you get 1361 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 5: the glory. You know, it's the glitz and glam of 1362 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 5: being able to put the ball in the paint. Defense 1363 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 5: is harder, no recognition, and the conversation that you typically 1364 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 5: have is always negative. 1365 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 3: So that's why you grow up in a off time. 1366 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 3: But but based on what. 1367 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 5: Position you play, you get different critiques and different expectations. 1368 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 4: Why did you play in high school. 1369 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 3: I only played offense. In high school. 1370 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 5: There was only one game that I played defense. Coach 1371 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 5: asked me to play defense. We were playing a really 1372 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 5: good player. I played defense for a game, but then 1373 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,200 Speaker 5: went right back to playing offense primarily, and didn't play 1374 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 5: defense again until I got to the pros. 1375 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, but when when you went to college, you were 1376 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 2: hoping to play offense again, weren't you? 1377 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 3: I played I only played offense. I never played defense. 1378 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,600 Speaker 5: I never played defense again from high school, like one 1379 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 5: game in high school on defense to when I got 1380 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 5: to the pros and I was asked to make a 1381 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 5: switch from wide receiver to dB. 1382 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 2: And when they asked you to make the switch, did 1383 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 2: you question, say why I've always played offense? I mean, 1384 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 2: how did that happen? 1385 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 5: I mean it was a long I mean it was 1386 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 5: a long process. I worked out for the Green Bay Packers. 1387 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 5: I can say this. I didn't have the greatest workout. 1388 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,479 Speaker 5: When it came to catching the ball. 1389 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 3: TJ. 1390 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 5: Rubley was throwing missiles at me, and I was having 1391 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 5: a tough time snagging it because I had just been 1392 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 5: working out with high school quarterbacks. At the end of 1393 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 5: the workout, Ron wolf Hall of Fame executive asked me 1394 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 5: if I minded doing some defensive back drills because I 1395 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 5: ran really fast, I jumped, I crushed the athletic part 1396 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 5: of it, but the positional part was not up to 1397 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 5: the standard, and so they asked me to do some 1398 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 5: dB stuff. 1399 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 3: I hadn't done this up for. 1400 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 5: A while, but it was really easy and comfortable for me, 1401 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 5: and based on that workout, they said, hey, maybe late 1402 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 5: in the year, we'll bring you back and have you 1403 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 5: play defense the following year. And it was tough because 1404 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 5: I had to have the conversation with my dad about 1405 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 5: playing defense. 1406 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 3: I never had it. 1407 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 5: He wanted me to stick with playing wide receiver, but 1408 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 5: ultimately the move to defensive back not only extending my career, 1409 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 5: but he expanded my horizons, which has helped me look 1410 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 5: at the game with a different perspective dan I would 1411 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 5: have had if I was just a one dimensional wide receiver. 1412 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 4: Certainly helped you. 1413 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Now, I mean, when you study the game and talk 1414 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 2: about it and write about it, there's no doubt about that. 1415 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,640 Speaker 4: Because you got both sides. I hear it, okay, the 1416 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 4: story of Bucket Brooks. 1417 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 2: I love it, by the way. Shortly after the show, 1418 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: our podcasts will be going up. If you missed any 1419 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 2: of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. 1420 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 2: How just search Fox Sports Ready or wherever you get 1421 01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 2: your podcasts. I'd be sure to follow and review the podcast. 1422 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 2: Rate it a five please five stars. Again, just search 1423 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Ready wherever you get your podcast, and you'll 1424 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: see today's show Fox Sports. 1425 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 4: So they posted right after we get up the year. 1426 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 4: He's Bucky Brooks. 1427 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Get him on X at Bucket Brooks, we'll read it, 1428 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 2: we'll retweet it, and at Andy Furman FSR or eight 1429 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine one. Fox is our number. We'll 1430 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 2: take your calls or eight seven seven nine ninety six 1431 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 2: sixty three sixty nine. Yeah, your on a in this hour. 1432 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 2: The blame game in our number three. But it was 1433 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 2: only his fingers. What is the big deal that's next? 1434 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 4: All right? 1435 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 2: Is everyone picking on him? We'll explain that in just 1436 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: a minute. We've crossed the fifty online and we'll be 1437 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 2: called Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. 1438 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 4: He's Bucket Brooks and Andy. 1439 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 2: Furman and we are live from the tairaq dot com studios, 1440 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 2: and of course be sure to check out the Fox 1441 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 2: Sports Radio YouTube channel. There's a ton of great videos 1442 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 2: for many of the Fox Sports Radio shows. Just search 1443 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole 1444 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,480 Speaker 2: bunch of video highlights from all of our shows. 1445 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 4: And be sure to subscribe. 1446 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 2: You always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio 1447 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 2: videos where on YouTube. Okay, let's talk about the NBA, 1448 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 2: which we haven't done for a while. John Moran plays 1449 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,959 Speaker 2: for the Memphis Grizzlies. He showed off an imaginary gun 1450 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 2: with his fingers. All right, that's what he did, and 1451 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 2: the NBA came back. They gave him a seventy five 1452 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 2: thousand dollars find. 1453 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 4: The other day, he. 1454 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Used his aiming gun gesture to celebrate making three point 1455 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 2: shots and he was fined, as they said, seventy five 1456 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 2: thousand Friday by the league. Second time this week. Dat Morant, 1457 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 2: who was suspended twice last year for incidence with real weapons, 1458 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 2: he heard from the league about mimicking the act of 1459 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 2: using a gun during the game, and the league said 1460 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 2: the gesture was inappropriate. What's the biggie, I mean, really, 1461 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 2: how many people really saw it? 1462 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 4: It's fingers? 1463 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, And he says the league's picking 1464 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 2: on him, and I think, you know what, maybe they are. 1465 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1466 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 2: This guy could very well be the face of the NBA. 1467 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 4: He really could. Great player, I get it. 1468 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 2: They told him not to do it, and he came 1469 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: back and did it again. Is it that big of 1470 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 2: a deal, Bucket Brooks, I don't think it really is. 1471 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Come on, really, let it go. They got more play 1472 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 2: by the fine than when he actually did the mimicking 1473 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 2: of the with his finger. 1474 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 5: Really, I'll say this like Jah Morant like to me, 1475 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 5: he creates mountains out of molehels. 1476 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 3: They told him a man, get rid of the gun. 1477 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 5: Justin they're trying to take all those out of everything 1478 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 5: sport in the NFL part of the initiative that came 1479 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,720 Speaker 5: out of the owner's meetings. They want to up the 1480 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 5: sportsmanship initiative and so taking any of those gun violent 1481 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 5: gestures out of the game. Jah Morant was told early 1482 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 5: in the week, Amen, cut that out, and then. 1483 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 3: He comes back and does it again. 1484 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 5: He absolutely should be finding held to a consequence with 1485 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 5: his dad in the stands, and I would tell his dad, Amen, 1486 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 5: get your kid, like, tell your kid to quit acting up. 1487 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 5: Because the reason why the league wants to take it 1488 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 5: away is there are millions of young people that look 1489 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 5: up to jab Morant, and if Jahn Morant is portraying 1490 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 5: like he's in that life, like he's in gang life, 1491 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 5: people will ultimately follow in his footsteps. 1492 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 3: And so what the league is trying to get him 1493 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 3: to understand that you are a roll bottle. 1494 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 5: Your every look has everything that you do has an 1495 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 5: impact on the people the next generation of people that 1496 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 5: coming behind you, so act accordingly. And he refuses to 1497 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 5: do that, and people think he's like, hey, I don't 1498 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 5: want to play kate to the man. 1499 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 3: I don't want to whatever. 1500 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, we all have bosses, 1501 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 5: and if the bosses said, hey, man, cut that out, 1502 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 5: he needs to cut it out. 1503 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 3: He needs to eliminate it from his repertoire of celebrations. 1504 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 4: I understand what you're saying. 1505 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 2: I agree one thousand percent the fact that he is 1506 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 2: kind of bought and paid for and property of the 1507 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Memphis Grizzlies and represents the Grizzlies as well as the NBA. 1508 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 2: And if your boss tells you that you must wear 1509 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 2: a shirt and tie to work, then you probably wear 1510 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 2: a shirt and tie, which you know they're extinct right now, ties, 1511 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,280 Speaker 2: but you know you got to do what the boss 1512 01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 2: tells you to do. 1513 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 4: Was he's paying you to do that. 1514 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 2: But remember, Moran and other members of the Grizzlies have 1515 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 2: used that gun gesture many times this year, and they 1516 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 2: did it Thursday night when they played Miami heat. He 1517 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 2: made a three point shot in the first quarter, and 1518 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 2: he turns towards a bench at the Memphis bench, his 1519 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 2: arm was fully extended, his left arm, his right thumb 1520 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 2: pointed in the air, index finger, middle fingers pressed together. 1521 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 2: You know, really and truly, I don't even think he 1522 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 2: said or admitted that it was a gun who was like, bang, 1523 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, I hit a three point. That's his I 1524 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,919 Speaker 2: guess signal for a three point. I don't think it's 1525 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 2: that big of a deal, you know, I really don't. 1526 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 2: And they're making a tremendous deal out of it, because yes, 1527 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 2: he's bigger than anybody else on the Memphis Grizzlies who 1528 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,040 Speaker 2: they're doing it as well. I don't let him alone. 1529 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Leave him alone. This doesn't do any good for anybody. 1530 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 4: It doesn't. 1531 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 5: Well, let's think about context. He got in trouble with 1532 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 5: weapons and those things. So now what he's doing is 1533 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 5: he's promoting that lifestyle and the last thing the NBA 1534 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 5: wants is your star player promoting their lifestyle. They already 1535 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 5: had to remove him. He was next in line to 1536 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 5: be the face of the franchise, right to face of 1537 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 5: the league, the face of everything, and they had to 1538 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 5: put him to the back of the bus because of 1539 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 5: the way he showed out. 1540 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 3: They would still love. 1541 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 5: For him to eventually be the face, but they got 1542 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 5: to make sure he understands how to carry that responsibility 1543 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 5: without embarrassing the brand. And right now he doesn't show 1544 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 5: the maturity to carry the responsibility. Well, maybe in time 1545 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 5: he can do it, but right now he's not mature 1546 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 5: enough to do it. 1547 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 2: It was a lot worse when he had a twenty 1548 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 2: five game suspension when he had a firearm in his 1549 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 2: car during a livestream video. I mean, you just don't 1550 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,960 Speaker 2: do that. I mean that to me, what's the upside? 1551 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 2: I had a general manager once at the radio station. 1552 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 2: Always would tell me because I used to do stupid 1553 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 2: things I still do. He called me in his office, 1554 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 2: say what's the upside? What is the upside? 1555 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,200 Speaker 8: Really? 1556 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 4: It's true. 1557 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,040 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes you got to say to yourself, what 1558 01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 2: is the upside? In twenty twenty three, he was a 1559 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 2: thirty three game suspension and it coursed him eight point 1560 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 2: three million dollars in salary. He'd be better off taking 1561 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 2: an eight point three million and going to the highest 1562 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:58,680 Speaker 2: building in Memphis and. 1563 01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 4: Throwing it off the roof. 1564 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 2: Eight point if they flush you, get down the toilet. 1565 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,480 Speaker 2: That's what he did with that money. 1566 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's silly, and that's why you wanted 1567 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,040 Speaker 5: to make better choices, and hopefully he will grow out 1568 01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 5: of it. He needs made better choices. The league is 1569 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 5: counting on him. He has to meet them, have way 1570 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 5: and deliver. 1571 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 2: I just you know, the finger imagination thing. I mean, 1572 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 2: I'd say it's not I think if he did that 1573 01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 2: and he never had the incidents with their live weapons 1574 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 2: on video, they probably would have let it go. And 1575 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 2: the fact that they've told him several times so they 1576 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 2: gave him opportunities there. But here's the situation with him. 1577 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 2: He had a firearm while he was in a club 1578 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,839 Speaker 2: in Denver and he was intoxicated. So what he needs 1579 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 2: is not suspensions. What he needs is not fines. He 1580 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 2: needs treatment, he really does. He needs to talk to 1581 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 2: some a counselor or somebody to say or a psychiatrist, 1582 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: get on the couch and say why are you doing this? 1583 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 2: And what again, that's the upside for your doing this? 1584 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,839 Speaker 2: Eight point three you could have fed every homeless person 1585 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 2: in the city of Memphis for eight point three million dollars. 1586 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 5: Well, the bigger thing is he's had therapy and council 1587 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 5: because remember when he was suspended, that was kind of 1588 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 5: part of the conditions to me with people or whatever. 1589 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 5: So as a matter of him putt him into practice. 1590 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's really what it comes down to, 1591 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 5: the discipline every day to do it exactly what you're 1592 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 5: supposed to do, how it's supposed to be done. 1593 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 3: Can't he do that? 1594 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 5: Can he play the game with energy and exuberance without 1595 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,880 Speaker 5: exhibiting some of those silly signs like that's the mean 1596 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,880 Speaker 5: the dollar question when it comes to John Morant. 1597 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 4: I'm figuring maybe he does it for attention. Maybe he 1598 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,719 Speaker 4: thinks that you're thought. 1599 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. 1600 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 5: I'm sure it is all for attention in those things 1601 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 5: like he's getting a player where he doesn't need the 1602 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:47,719 Speaker 5: extra attention. 1603 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 3: But maybe that he doesn't see himself like that. 1604 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 4: I don't understand. 1605 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 2: Now, Look again, I kind of lean on you for 1606 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 2: this information, because again. 1607 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:56,280 Speaker 4: You played the game. 1608 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,479 Speaker 2: You had to have played with athletes like this on 1609 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,719 Speaker 2: any level that are just a little out of whack, 1610 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 2: just a little out of whack, and they want attention. 1611 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 2: They do things good, better and different biggers. They want 1612 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,799 Speaker 2: people to see them, hear them. But he he doesn't 1613 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 2: need to do that because people see him and what 1614 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 2: he can accomplish on the basketball court. 1615 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't need to do that. 1616 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 5: Like I mean, it's funny because he's already he's already 1617 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,880 Speaker 5: a star status. He doesn't need to prove to anybody 1618 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 5: he's the star. Like he's already been annoyed. He's a 1619 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 5: made man. Now, it's about just doing the silly stuff 1620 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 5: like eliminating that and just you know, when when you 1621 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 5: take on these things, when you take on face of 1622 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 5: the franchise, tape, roles and responsibilities, a lot of it 1623 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,640 Speaker 5: is are mature enough to handle it. We always talk 1624 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 5: about quarterbacks on our show, and one of the things 1625 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 5: that we used to talk about is the quarterback should 1626 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 5: have a regalness about him. He should feel like he's 1627 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,599 Speaker 5: a president, like he should exude that kind of stuff. Well, 1628 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 5: that's what we want for some of these players like 1629 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 5: to be able to handle themselves and comport themselves in 1630 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 5: that way because that reflect the brand, reflects well on 1631 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 5: the brand, and ultimately everyone's brand has to. 1632 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 4: Matter, right. 1633 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 2: I ain't know when the National Football League teams have 1634 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,599 Speaker 2: like a director of a player? 1635 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 4: What right? 1636 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,600 Speaker 2: Right did I have that in the NBA? And if so, 1637 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: what what do these guys do that they take these 1638 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 2: players under their wing and say, man, you got you 1639 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 2: got to calm down, you got to just just cool it, 1640 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 2: you know. 1641 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 5: Really in the NFL like that role can serve a 1642 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 5: few different purposes. You have some of that that you're 1643 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,559 Speaker 5: talking about counseling the players. The other thing is helping 1644 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:37,439 Speaker 5: them go back to college and graduate thirteen, is helping 1645 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:44,840 Speaker 5: them finish up and tie opinnion loose ends around town, internships, housing, Uh, 1646 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,040 Speaker 5: if your significant other is looking for a job or career, 1647 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 5: like all. 1648 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 3: These things, they kind of help you with all that. 1649 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 5: I'm sure the NBA has some kind of mentoring program 1650 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 5: for the young players that they have come into the league. 1651 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 3: They have to, that's the only way it can work. 1652 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 4: I don't understand. 1653 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,639 Speaker 2: I can't fathom giving away eight point three million dollars 1654 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 2: in fines for doing something stupid. 1655 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 4: Really, you know, it hurt me. 1656 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 2: You know, about two years ago, I got a thing 1657 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,120 Speaker 2: in the mail that I went through, one of those 1658 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 2: z pass things. 1659 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 4: It was a. 1660 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 2: Fine, no, I do it right, and then send me 1661 01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 2: a letter. I think I owe two dollars. I mean, 1662 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 2: I wrote a change in it away. But you just 1663 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 2: don't want to give money away like that. That's what 1664 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,679 Speaker 2: you're doing. You work too hard for it. No matter 1665 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 2: what you do in life, you work too hard to 1666 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 2: give it away to the man for something stupid that 1667 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 2: you didn't have to give it away for. 1668 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 4: That's the foe. 1669 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,880 Speaker 3: Well that's well, that's the thing. 1670 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 5: Don't do super stuff like just keep it like if 1671 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,640 Speaker 5: we were planning to go, just hit in the fairway. 1672 01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 3: Like just just just keep it. 1673 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 5: Out of the hazards. And the way that you do 1674 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 5: that is about just keep your nose clean. Do us 1675 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 5: the ass, run on and off to court, limited interaction 1676 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 5: with the folks, and get out of there. Get your money. 1677 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,880 Speaker 5: That's all he had to do. That's all he has 1678 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 5: to do. 1679 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 2: You know what, It just it just my head starts 1680 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: to spend because I remember, just about about three years ago, 1681 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm driving and The next thing, I know, I look 1682 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 2: on my rearview mirror. I see like these flashing lights. 1683 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 2: Said what the heck did I do? It can't be 1684 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 2: after me, So I kept on going. Next thing, I know, 1685 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 2: he must have called another police call. There were two 1686 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 2: police cars following me. I had to pull over. I said, well, 1687 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 2: what's up? He says, I didn't stop completely to stop signing. 1688 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,559 Speaker 2: I said, you gotta be kidding, really right? You know, 1689 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,919 Speaker 2: it cost me one hundred and fifty bucks. It's crazy. 1690 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 2: I mean, it hurt me. It really ticked me up. 1691 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 4: And I was thinking of going to court because you know, 1692 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 4: you could record it. So I talked to an attorney. Says, 1693 01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 4: you have to pay court fees plus to find so 1694 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 4: I said, you know what, forget it. 1695 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 2: I gave him a check and that was the end 1696 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,799 Speaker 2: of it. But it was ridiculous. It was a joke, really, 1697 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 2: I mean, I did stop. What am I gonna do? 1698 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 2: He says that, you know I went through a red light. 1699 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:47,799 Speaker 2: I said, no, no, it was yellow. 1700 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 4: But what are you gonna do? 1701 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 2: You can't win? I mean, I I was crazy. I 1702 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 2: was like, you know, in a ball of heat, That's 1703 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 2: what I was. But when I saw these two police 1704 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 2: cars behind me. I pulled over. I didn't think they 1705 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,839 Speaker 2: were after me, and I think I did anything. 1706 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sounds like a twisted tail there any. 1707 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know next to you know, I'm in the lineup. 1708 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 4: I'm in the lineup. Here we go, all right. 1709 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 2: He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firman. We are Fox Sports 1710 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 2: Sunday and Fox Butt's Readio Tractor Supply. They know that 1711 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 2: a winning season takes practice, teamwork, and I can do attitude. Thankfully, 1712 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,000 Speaker 2: when you have a nighbor like tractor supply, teamwork comes easy. 1713 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,280 Speaker 2: Whether you're caring for pets, chickens or a few acres, 1714 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 2: our team members will help you succeed season after season. 1715 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 2: Tract to Supply for Life out here, and be sure 1716 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,679 Speaker 2: to check out the Tract to Supply Fox Sports Radio 1717 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Bracket Challenge where at Fox Sports Radio dot com and 1718 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 2: see how our hosts are doing with their picks and 1719 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,120 Speaker 2: who the top ranked listeners are. The listener with the 1720 01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 2: best bracket at Fox Sports Radio dot Com will win 1721 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,920 Speaker 2: hey twenty five hundred dollars gift card to Track to Supply. 1722 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,759 Speaker 2: By the way, let's talk to our executive producer Patty, 1723 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 2: who's number one in the in the pool over here 1724 01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:58,920 Speaker 2: in the bracket? Do you have any idea? 1725 01:15:59,000 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 4: Right now? 1726 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 8: I believe the number one way now was looking like 1727 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 8: it was either Alex Curry or Doug gottlieb Oh was 1728 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 8: it me? 1729 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 4: It was not me? Are you laughing and sing over there? 1730 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,680 Speaker 8: I'll say this, Andy, You're definitely not last place. And 1731 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 8: I'm being I'm being real here. You're not last place 1732 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 8: for sure. 1733 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,000 Speaker 4: Now, let's chick on it. 1734 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 10: You moved up right. 1735 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 4: Well. I got used to to win it all, so 1736 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 4: I'm in pretty decent shape. I had that. What about 1737 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,240 Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks? Wist Bucky in this? 1738 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 8: No? 1739 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not. I hear it out. I'm not 1740 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 3: in there. 1741 01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,400 Speaker 4: Oh oh that's good. No one can make fun of you. 1742 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 8: I think Bucky would definitely be higher than you, though, Andy, 1743 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,400 Speaker 8: I haven't feeling Yeah. 1744 01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 4: You keep on smacking me around. 1745 01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,960 Speaker 2: That's okay, there we go, all right. This is Fox 1746 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Oh Fox Sports training. No, it's either up 1747 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 2: or down or for us it's ya on a and 1748 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 2: you know what it is next? Alr yay A coming 1749 01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 2: up right now? 1750 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 4: Okay, but gout. 1751 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 2: About nine ten minutes before the top of the hour, 1752 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,600 Speaker 2: that would be eight am on the East coast. And 1753 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,040 Speaker 2: of course, so we are live from the Tirat dot 1754 01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Com studio. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. This is 1755 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, and it's time. 1756 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 4: For a na So here he is. Let's still it. 1757 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 7: Okay, let's beget rock those brains, gentlemen, these stories needed ass. 1758 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:21,759 Speaker 1: I think we need this yay nay, all right. 1759 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,440 Speaker 4: Patty get it called pat all. 1760 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 8: Right, it's time to play the yay rnay and I 1761 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 8: say we go on this very nice Sunday. 1762 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 10: All right, guys, so let's start here. 1763 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,800 Speaker 8: The Colorado Rockies lost to the Sacramento A's. I guess 1764 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 8: we can call him Sacramento A's Friday in the snow 1765 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 8: yay or nay? 1766 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 2: Andy Furman, well, is it the Sacramento ways, Bucky with 1767 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 2: he is still the Oakland A's. 1768 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 4: I don't know what do you call him now? 1769 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 3: I thought he was I thought he was just called 1770 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 3: the A's. 1771 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 5: I thought he's just kind of like took away all 1772 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,880 Speaker 5: of the front of it and just called it the A's. 1773 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 5: But regardless, they have him playing in Sacramento. 1774 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, they played Colorado, they played in the snow, and 1775 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 2: I say, if you're a fan, I'm watching it on TV, 1776 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 2: I say yay. But if you're a fan and you're 1777 01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 2: sitting in the stands, I say nay, because I don't 1778 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,519 Speaker 2: want to sit in the snow watching a baseball game. 1779 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,600 Speaker 3: I agree with you. I don't want to see that. 1780 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 3: I'll wait. I'll wait for the warmer ups. I'll wait 1781 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,120 Speaker 3: at June before I go. Yes. 1782 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 10: All right, Well, guys, we got next one up. 1783 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 8: Coastal Carolina University will offer free concessions at home football 1784 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 8: games this season. Fans can order four free items per 1785 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 8: concession visit. And eligibles are nachos, hot dogs, popcorn. 1786 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 10: And fountain drinks, which would be like sodas and whatnot. 1787 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 1: Yay or nay. 1788 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,480 Speaker 10: Bucky Brooks. 1789 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 3: Such a tough one. Let's just go with nay. Let go. 1790 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm just short and sweet like nay. I just don't 1791 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 3: like it. 1792 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 2: Really, you know what, I'm gonna go yay because I 1793 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 2: know if I were to purchase them, they may not 1794 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 2: be as free. Is yay, because the fact that everybody's 1795 01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 2: gonna want free stuff, they're gonna have to restock the 1796 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 2: concessions all the time. So this stuff will be fresh. 1797 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 2: The worst thing is when you go to the movie 1798 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 2: theater and you buy popcorn and you know it's stale, 1799 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,680 Speaker 2: and you know it's there from like the you know, 1800 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 2: three days ago, and you can break a tooth on it. 1801 01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 4: So at least this stuff is gonna be fairly fresh. 1802 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:18,560 Speaker 4: So I like that. 1803 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 3: I say, yay, fairly fresh, fairly fresh. 1804 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 8: Fairly fairly fresh. Well you know what's you know what's 1805 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 8: fairly fresh? Another one of our yeah or NAIs here, guys. 1806 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 8: So the NFL hasn't outlawed the toush push yet, yay 1807 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 8: or nay? 1808 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 4: Andy, yay there, Kip, But I like that, tushy, leave 1809 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 4: the touch push in there. 1810 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,760 Speaker 2: It's a great game, it's a great play. And I'll 1811 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 2: tell you, if you can't stop it, it's on you. 1812 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 4: It's on you. 1813 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm with that. I don't I don't 1814 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 5: think this shout lord. People got to come up with it, 1815 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 5: like you got to figure out a way to stop it. 1816 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 5: There have been teams that have gotten stops. We saw 1817 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,360 Speaker 5: the Washington and is get a couple stops like it 1818 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 5: can be done. You gotta put some time in, you 1819 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 5: gotta practice. 1820 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 10: All right, final say here guys final nay or yeay? 1821 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 10: Your call? 1822 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 8: Uh the toush push or torpedo bats yay or nay? 1823 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,599 Speaker 8: Bucky Final, Say. 1824 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 4: To Bush, I like torpedo bat. I don't know. 1825 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 2: I'll go to the bad There we go. Hey, one 1826 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 2: NFL team. This may be the biggest laws the biggest 1827 01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,520 Speaker 2: loss coming up next Fox. All right, he says, communication 1828 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,679 Speaker 2: has been poor. We'll explain that in just about a minute. 1829 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,240 Speaker 2: All right, good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday, 1830 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:35,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports. 1831 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:35,479 Speaker 3: Ready. 1832 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 4: He's Bucky Brooks. 1833 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman, and we're broadcasting live from the ti 1834 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 2: iraq dot com studios ti iraq dot com. We'll help 1835 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 2: you get there and on my selection fast free shipping. 1836 01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Free road has a protection of over ten thousand recommended 1837 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,400 Speaker 2: in storeless ti rack dot. 1838 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,840 Speaker 4: Com the way tire buying should be. 1839 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,600 Speaker 2: And Bucky really and truly a big day today in 1840 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,360 Speaker 2: sports because we have the women's final tomorrow night's the 1841 01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 2: men's final and CAA basketball and all you got to 1842 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 2: know as far as the men's game is concerned. Houston 1843 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 2: beating Duke last night seventy sixty seven. Houston ended the 1844 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,160 Speaker 2: game on a nine to nothing run in the last 1845 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 2: thirty three seconds, which is almost unheard of. And there's 1846 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 2: a devastating loss for Duke, no doubt about that. A 1847 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,360 Speaker 2: collapse perhaps, but a comeback, a comeback for the Ages, 1848 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,519 Speaker 2: no doubt about that either. 1849 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, like a great comeback, Like just terrific comeback by Houston. 1850 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 5: Showed all kinds of grit, resilience, determination, all those adjectives 1851 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,839 Speaker 5: that you want to use to describe a tough, minded, 1852 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 5: hardened team. They were able to do and they made 1853 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 5: it an improbable comeback. They were able to kind of 1854 01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 5: put the pressure on Duke. Duke was unable to make 1855 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 5: the plays, but to Houston's credit, they guys who hadn't shut. 1856 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:42,400 Speaker 3: With all night. 1857 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 5: They came through when they needed them. And ultimately that's 1858 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,640 Speaker 5: what it's. It's about your best players coming through in 1859 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 5: those key moments. 1860 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, like, you know, it didn't 1861 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 2: really surprise Houston coach Kelvin Sampson because when he was asked, basically, 1862 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, is this like the most improbable win you've 1863 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,080 Speaker 2: ever had, maybe in your careers? Now, you know, a 1864 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 2: couple of months was a month ago they played in 1865 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 2: Allen Field House in Kansas. The Cougars came back from 1866 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,680 Speaker 2: six points down with ninety one seconds to play, and 1867 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 2: they beat Kansas in Kansas in double over time. So 1868 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 2: basically he's used to it. It didn't bother him. He 1869 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 2: wasn't panicking, and I guess his teammate. I mean, this team, 1870 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 2: it takes a page out of the coach when they 1871 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 2: say players follow with the coaches lead. 1872 01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 4: That's basically what they did. 1873 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 2: And they came back back and shot poorly, but they 1874 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,919 Speaker 2: got rebounded Duke, and they had the offensive boards controlled. 1875 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 2: So you know, I still think the better team won. 1876 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 2: I still think that overall, I think Houston is a 1877 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 2: better team because the maturity level. I think it was 1878 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 2: the maturity and the age factor over the youth of Duke. 1879 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 2: That's what hurt Duke down the stretch that hadn't been 1880 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 2: there before. Houston has been there before. 1881 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, So when I think about like the difference between 1882 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 5: the two teams, I think experience matters. Houston having been 1883 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 5: there before, having played in a bunch of tough, greedy, 1884 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 5: competitive games, they were ready for those moments. You got 1885 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 5: to remember, man, Duke roll through everybody, roll through everybody 1886 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 5: in the ACC by twenty plus points. They didn't have 1887 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 5: to play games of significance down the stretch, So they 1888 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 5: never got comfortable with late game execution, understanding the attention 1889 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 5: to detail. 1890 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 3: That needed to win in these games. All of that, 1891 01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 3: they just saw the good. 1892 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 5: So it's it's a harsh lesson to learn, but it's 1893 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,040 Speaker 5: one that has served John Shower and John Shire and 1894 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 5: the Duke program well as he goes forward, no. 1895 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:31,479 Speaker 4: Doubt about that. 1896 01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 2: And Kelvin Sampson, I win um a seven ninety nine. Boy, 1897 01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,360 Speaker 2: would that be great if he get his eight hundred 1898 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 2: win tomorrow night winning the championship against Florida. But let's 1899 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 2: take a listen to the coach, Kelvin Sampson of the 1900 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 2: Houston Cougars. 1901 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 6: No one ever uses in anything as long as you 1902 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:49,559 Speaker 6: don't quit, you quit. I don't care that you lost. 1903 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 6: Aren't taking our time outside. We've been here before. It's 1904 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 6: not like we're down twenty. It's not like we were 1905 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 6: playing right. We felt like if we could get it 1906 01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,759 Speaker 6: close enough to put some games showing them, that's something 1907 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 6: that could happen. But the credit, the credit, how the 1908 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:06,800 Speaker 6: glory goes to. 1909 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,799 Speaker 3: Guy, all the credit to coach. I'm so glassed. 1910 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,120 Speaker 4: I get the coach I'll tell you what. 1911 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like a pretty confident coach. I'm I'm pretty 1912 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 2: happy for him too. But he's been through hell and back. 1913 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 2: He really has in his career and he really has 1914 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 2: a second life with the Houston Cougars. And really I 1915 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 2: credit usedon for giving him the chance because he was 1916 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 2: like an outlaw in college. He lost his job in 1917 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 2: Indiana and he had to go to the NBA for 1918 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 2: a while, sat on the bench with the Milwaukee Bucks. 1919 01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes someone reaches out to you and 1920 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 2: he's carry and you turn around and you get it done. 1921 01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,599 Speaker 4: And he's a good man and he's a good coach. 1922 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 3: That's good. 1923 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,759 Speaker 2: So we'll see tomorrow night. You got Florida, you got Houston. 1924 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 2: And Walter Walter was I mean this this guy in Florida. 1925 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:57,799 Speaker 2: Uh w Walter Clayton junr uh thirty four points. He's amazing. 1926 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 2: I mean I again, I hadn't heard of much until 1927 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,720 Speaker 2: last night. I think that he opened up a lot 1928 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 2: of eyes. Walter Clayton Jr. 1929 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 3: Great player, really good player. 1930 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,559 Speaker 5: The thing that you have though in this one number 1931 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 5: one team in the game, which would be the Florida Gators, 1932 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,439 Speaker 5: Like number one, they've been rolling the last half of 1933 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,000 Speaker 5: the season. And then you have Houston, who traditionally their 1934 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 5: defense man, they can lock you up. And I don't 1935 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 5: know if anyone saw the end of the Florida game. 1936 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,760 Speaker 5: They had a tough time with pressure. They had a 1937 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 5: tough time getting the ball up like they held on 1938 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:35,160 Speaker 5: for dear life. It escaped me right now. But number 1939 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,400 Speaker 5: fifteen's name, he turned it over two or three times 1940 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:37,880 Speaker 5: in a row. 1941 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 3: The pressure. 1942 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 5: If I'm Houston, I'm starting with that knowing he we 1943 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 5: can tighten the screws on these guys and maybe make 1944 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,599 Speaker 5: them have some mistakes and do some of those things. 1945 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 5: To me, man, I feel like this is Houston's time. 1946 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,560 Speaker 5: I love what the Gators have been able to do, 1947 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 5: but look, Houston was on their way to being able 1948 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 5: to do and they had injuries a year or so ago. 1949 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 5: This is a team that is built to do it, 1950 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 5: and I expect them to get it done. 1951 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 3: On Monday. 1952 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 4: You know, you watch Houston play and the way they 1953 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:07,280 Speaker 4: came back and won. 1954 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,360 Speaker 2: You know, and I know this sounds ridiculous, but I 1955 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 2: think those guys on Houston, those players, they were ready 1956 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 2: to play Florida last night. After they won, after they 1957 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,640 Speaker 2: beat do that. That's how sky high they were. 1958 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 8: Right. 1959 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 2: If Florida would have came out last night after that game, 1960 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 2: they would have played them right there, right. 1961 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, the way it is, the roll the balls out, 1962 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:27,479 Speaker 3: let's go to. 1963 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 2: Work right exactly right now, today's Yukon is playing South 1964 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Carolina for the women's title three o'clock Eastern time. And 1965 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 2: here's my theory on the women's NCAA, the women's basketball 1966 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:43,479 Speaker 2: in general. I think men and fans in general, they 1967 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,360 Speaker 2: watched the game regardless of who's playing. 1968 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 4: They watched teams, and. 1969 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 2: They watched the matchups. That's what the guys do, all right, 1970 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 2: That's what people do. Right as far as the women, 1971 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 2: I think the women and people in general watch players. 1972 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,560 Speaker 2: You know, don't watch a Caitlin Clark. They'll watch a 1973 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 2: Page Beckers. 1974 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,799 Speaker 4: That's what they do. And I think that's why. 1975 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,400 Speaker 2: Dawn Staley was a little upset when she's talking about 1976 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 2: the promotion that Page Beckers is getting for Ukon. 1977 01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:12,760 Speaker 4: Well, that's what sells the game. 1978 01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 2: I don't think people are going to turn it on 1979 01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 2: to say, oh, I want to watch South Carolina play, 1980 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,360 Speaker 2: because honestly, most people who turn onto the tube probably 1981 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,679 Speaker 2: can't even name three people or two people who play 1982 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,760 Speaker 2: for South Carolina, but they're going to turn it on 1983 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,160 Speaker 2: with say, well, how good is this page Beckers. That's 1984 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 2: all I hear about. So I think the women's game, 1985 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 2: and I think they're smart and doing so. They promote 1986 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 2: players and promote stars. That attracts viewership. 1987 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:37,880 Speaker 4: That's what they do. 1988 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean, And there's nothing wrong with that. No, there's 1989 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with trying to get eyeballs on it. 1990 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 5: However, you have to sell the game, sell the game 1991 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 5: to get people to watch it, and when they watch it, 1992 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,920 Speaker 5: they may fall in love with the game as opposed. 1993 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:52,839 Speaker 3: To the star that was being promoted. 1994 01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:58,560 Speaker 5: I understand women have had an issue in terms of 1995 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,719 Speaker 5: like people coming in, the casual coming in in those things, 1996 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 5: and that's going to be some of that. But man, 1997 01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 5: you want to invite everybody to come watch the game 1998 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,800 Speaker 5: because the game is, the game is amazing, the people 1999 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,880 Speaker 5: that are playing, the women that are playing outstanding. 2000 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 3: You want more people to see it. 2001 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 5: And I understand Don's frustrations, but if A helps drive 2002 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 5: some of the interest, then let her drive some of 2003 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:19,880 Speaker 5: the interests. 2004 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 4: Look, I will say this, I'm one of those got 2005 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,360 Speaker 4: sucked into it. I really didn't. I'll give you an example. 2006 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,560 Speaker 2: I live in the greatest Cincinnati area and they have 2007 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati women's basketball, Xavier, Northern Kentucky University three 2008 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 2: Division one teams, they have a Division two team, and 2009 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,640 Speaker 2: Thomas Moore University to when they were Division three, they 2010 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:38,960 Speaker 2: win the. 2011 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 4: National title twice. 2012 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 2: All right, maybe I've seen a total I'm on one hand, 2013 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 2: five games in the last five years. But last year 2014 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 2: I drove from where I live near Cincinnati to Bloomington 2015 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 2: and Dianna to see Caitlin Clark. I got sucked in. 2016 01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 2: I heard so much about it. I want them to 2017 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 2: see her in person, so I did. 2018 01:28:58,520 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 4: That's what I did. 2019 01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 2: So I think this something to be said about selling 2020 01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,759 Speaker 2: the names, selling the so called stars, and I would 2021 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,000 Speaker 2: drive to see Page Becker's play or say how good 2022 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:07,240 Speaker 2: she is. 2023 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 4: They say she's better than Caitlin Clark. I want to 2024 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:10,000 Speaker 4: see that. 2025 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:11,600 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 2026 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean different, different style game, but yet she's 2027 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:15,559 Speaker 5: a great player. 2028 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 3: She's a great player in her own right. 2029 01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,320 Speaker 5: People just need to go back like she was off 2030 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 5: the map a little bit because she got hers, she 2031 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,519 Speaker 5: blew her aco, but when she bounced back. It was 2032 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,280 Speaker 5: slow and surely, but this year we've seen vintage you 2033 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 5: could come back. 2034 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 3: So I enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to it. 2035 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 4: So you get her out, all right. 2036 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,080 Speaker 2: Now, let's move over to the NFL, because that's what 2037 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 2: everybody wants to hear. I guess the NFL and the 2038 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 2: NFL socks leader a year ago plays for the Cincinnati Bengals. 2039 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 2: His name is Trey Hendrickson. He's winning for a new deal, 2040 01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:43,760 Speaker 2: all right. 2041 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 4: Why would he be winning for a new deal? 2042 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,360 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I mean he's got a contract, but 2043 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,080 Speaker 2: I guess he had a good year and he wants 2044 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,720 Speaker 2: to get it extended. He's gonna be thirty one years old. 2045 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 2: He wants a long term deal, like it's a two 2046 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,560 Speaker 2: year deal. And he says that the Bengals have not 2047 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,200 Speaker 2: communicated with his agent. You know why, I'll tell you why, Trey, 2048 01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,600 Speaker 2: because he he who talks first the negotiations loses. You 2049 01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:05,479 Speaker 2: know that Bucky right and the Bengals have all the cards. 2050 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,400 Speaker 2: Why should the Bengals reach out to him? Really, you 2051 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,519 Speaker 2: have your agent, Cole not gonna do a make a 2052 01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,920 Speaker 2: proposal and then you start working at it. I don't 2053 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,439 Speaker 2: understand that he wants long term. He's thirty one. I 2054 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 2: guess he saw Jamar Chase and t Higgins getting signed 2055 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 2: that the team, as you mentioned earlier on the team 2056 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,280 Speaker 2: is built an offense. They're not built on defense, and 2057 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,839 Speaker 2: I think they could. They have more problems on defense 2058 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 2: than Trey Hendrickson. So if they could sell him and 2059 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,680 Speaker 2: trade him, maybe for a couple of draft picks, I 2060 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 2: think they would. I don't know, and you have your 2061 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 2: ear close to the ground. In the NFL. Is there 2062 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 2: a market for Trey Hendrickson? Does anybody want him? 2063 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always a market for people that can take 2064 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 5: the quarterback down. There's always a market. It may not 2065 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 5: be at the price that he wants. So when you 2066 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 5: make a trade for Drey Henderson, you not only have 2067 01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 5: to give him the capitol and the conversation terms of 2068 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:55,839 Speaker 5: the draft, you got to sign him to a new contract. 2069 01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,519 Speaker 5: If he's asking for wherever it is, thirty five thirty 2070 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 5: six seven million, Yeah, I can see that slowing down 2071 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,360 Speaker 5: the marketplace. It just depends on what he's asking for 2072 01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:07,960 Speaker 5: and if you can meet him halfway. But he's a 2073 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 5: good player and we can't dismiss his accolades and his accomplishment, 2074 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,439 Speaker 5: says a pass rushing specialist. It's just that man, the 2075 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,640 Speaker 5: sticker sticker shock. The price tag on that sticker is significant, 2076 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 5: And do you want to get in business with Trey 2077 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:22,760 Speaker 5: Henderson at that price point? 2078 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 4: Right exactly right now. 2079 01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 2: The executive vice president of the Cincinnati Bengals, Katie Blackburn, 2080 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,280 Speaker 2: who's the daughter of Mike Brown, she was quoted in 2081 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,720 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Inquirer the other day and quoting it, says 2082 01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 2: it's on him, meaning it's on Trey to be happy 2083 01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,280 Speaker 2: at some point. This is what he's that she said quote. 2084 01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,200 Speaker 2: I think some of it is on him to be 2085 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,720 Speaker 2: happy at some point. If he's not, you know, that's 2086 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 2: what holds it up sometimes, you know, it takes him 2087 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 2: to say yes to do something. 2088 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,559 Speaker 4: So I don't have to show what she meant by 2089 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:49,400 Speaker 4: that trade. 2090 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,479 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think she's saying this. 2091 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,080 Speaker 5: She's saying, Look, Trey, we put proposals and things on 2092 01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 5: the table for you. We put things on the table 2093 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,160 Speaker 5: that work within the confines of where we're at. You 2094 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,120 Speaker 5: have to make a decision do you want to play 2095 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,120 Speaker 5: for us at this number or do you want to 2096 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 5: go elsewhere? But here's where we're at and he appears 2097 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:12,920 Speaker 5: to be one that likes to go back and forth 2098 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,400 Speaker 5: and he's unhappy with the number, and if he signs 2099 01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,760 Speaker 5: the contract, he's gonna be unhappy with the number and 2100 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,639 Speaker 5: maybe act out like a Brandan Nayuk. Ultimately, Trey Henderson 2101 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,680 Speaker 5: has to decide what's most important for him. 2102 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:25,000 Speaker 3: If it's important for him. 2103 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 5: To stay in Cincinnati, he can find a way to 2104 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 5: get them up to the number that's satisfactory. But if 2105 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 5: he wants to go elsewhere, then because he has the 2106 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 5: freedom to seek a trade, go find us a trade 2107 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 5: so we can get this done. I think they're tired 2108 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 5: of hearing about it because it's been a year long 2109 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:41,519 Speaker 5: soap opera with him. 2110 01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 2: You know what you need to get on the horn 2111 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,040 Speaker 2: of col Trey Hendrickson because Henderson said he after reheard 2112 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 2: those comments from Katie Blackburn, he said he thought those 2113 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 2: comments were confusing, all right, Chris. He says he's been 2114 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 2: talking to the Bengals front office about long term contract 2115 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 2: for several years, all right, So I think you need 2116 01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:58,960 Speaker 2: to tell him, hey, look, this is what it's all about. 2117 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,479 Speaker 2: And I think that As have made an offer, and 2118 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 2: they probably made a long term deal when I say 2119 01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,639 Speaker 2: long term, maybe two years, and maybe he wants more, 2120 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 2: maybe he wants three, maybe he wants four. 2121 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,240 Speaker 4: Then I got to give him three or four years. 2122 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,840 Speaker 4: He's thirty one. It doesn't work out that way. 2123 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,719 Speaker 3: It's it's the money. He wants more bread, he wants 2124 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,320 Speaker 3: more money. He wants to be update like Miles Garrett. 2125 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 5: And I understand because he can make a case based 2126 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,559 Speaker 5: on his resume the last few years. He's been at 2127 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,519 Speaker 5: the top of the business, sack leader, all that. 2128 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,640 Speaker 3: But he's thirty one, and no. 2129 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,599 Speaker 5: One's gonna give him Miles Garrett money because no one 2130 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 5: views him right like of Miles Garrett. Your numbers say 2131 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:34,360 Speaker 5: one thing. 2132 01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,519 Speaker 3: Great. However, when we turn on the tape, you're not 2133 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett exactly right. 2134 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 2: And I mentioned early on that this NFL team, or 2135 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,200 Speaker 2: one NFL team may very well have their biggest loss. 2136 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,280 Speaker 2: The biggest loss may be what Katie Brown basically is 2137 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 2: saying right now to the city of Cincinnati, because they 2138 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,320 Speaker 2: have negotiations going on, not only with Troy Hendrickson, they 2139 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 2: got negotiations going on for stadium improvement with the city 2140 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,560 Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, and now there's some talk of moving like 2141 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,639 Speaker 2: a three first of all, they did this years ago 2142 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,880 Speaker 2: when they wanted a new stadium and they had to vote, 2143 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,840 Speaker 2: and they voted on I remember they brought all the 2144 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,240 Speaker 2: players from the past, just like in the mid nineties 2145 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,240 Speaker 2: early nineties. I remember Chris Collinsworth was on the street 2146 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 2: corner with Reggie Williams. They're all out there, You're telling people. 2147 01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:16,000 Speaker 4: What to vote for. 2148 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,280 Speaker 2: And then the public voted for it for a tax 2149 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,799 Speaker 2: increased and they got the new stadium. Now the stadiums 2150 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 2: are twenty five plus years old. They would either want repair. 2151 01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,080 Speaker 2: They're not gonna get a new one, but they want 2152 01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,799 Speaker 2: repairs to be done in it. So now the threats 2153 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,559 Speaker 2: out there again. First of all, they're not gonna move 2154 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,599 Speaker 2: because there's ur Modell route out there. Okay, number one? 2155 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,000 Speaker 2: Number two, we are you gonna go to? What city 2156 01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 2: is available right now? Besides Mexico City. Really think about it. 2157 01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,080 Speaker 5: What did they do you san Antonio? You think they 2158 01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 5: could be the San Antonio Bengals. There's always cities. 2159 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 4: Is San Antonio an option? 2160 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 3: Really? 2161 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,160 Speaker 5: I think I think they're more than enough cities that 2162 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 5: they could find if they want to. 2163 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,799 Speaker 3: It's the NFL, and they can find a way to move. 2164 01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,840 Speaker 4: Them the only city I could think. 2165 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not even thinking of San Antono because 2166 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 2: I think like Houston and Dallas may may oppose to that. 2167 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,880 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't maybe in their marketing scheme, I don't know. 2168 01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,880 Speaker 2: Maybe Portland. Maybe Portland could be a sume. Other than that, 2169 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 2: I can't think of any city in the continental United 2170 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 2: States that could have a team. 2171 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 4: Really, I really can't. 2172 01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:23,479 Speaker 5: M I mean, we can't go to Salt Lake City. 2173 01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:29,559 Speaker 5: You think I like available cities that Salt Lake City has. 2174 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 5: They have all the teams, they just got NHL, they 2175 01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:35,920 Speaker 5: got the Jazz. You know, why not put a little 2176 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,000 Speaker 5: You can put a football team in that Rocky Mountain region. 2177 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,599 Speaker 5: They'll mess up to AFC West, but like you can 2178 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 5: put them in there. 2179 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 4: Well, maybe maybe it is a possibility. I don't know. 2180 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,080 Speaker 4: I think it's a threat. I don't. 2181 01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't think the Brown family wants to leave Cincinnati. 2182 01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,680 Speaker 2: They they had their roots here, and I think they 2183 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:52,920 Speaker 2: want to stay here. I don't think they. 2184 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,360 Speaker 3: Want to leave, So I don't think they want to leave. 2185 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 5: But I'm saying that there's a viable option if they're 2186 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,439 Speaker 5: going to push the envelope though, Yeah. 2187 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,599 Speaker 2: We'll see speaking of pushing the alvel what Michael Parsons 2188 01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:05,160 Speaker 2: and the Cowboys? What gives you had this guy and 2189 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 2: we talked earlier today as the number one man to 2190 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 2: build your defense around. And Jerry Jones says he's here 2191 01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,559 Speaker 2: to give him a mega deal, but he says he's 2192 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 2: also bypassed Parsons agent. Is that a good thing that 2193 01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 2: he's dealing directly with Michael Parsons himself? Because Jerry Jones, 2194 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,840 Speaker 2: and this was in print the other day, he says 2195 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:27,080 Speaker 2: he has had a direct contact doing negotiations with guys 2196 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:31,120 Speaker 2: like Emmitt Smith and Deon Sanders. But Deon Senders was 2197 01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,240 Speaker 2: represented I think by Eugene Parker at the time, so 2198 01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 2: I don't know when he saw cam about Jerry Jones. 2199 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,040 Speaker 2: I think it could be a little Steeniley. 2200 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:41,479 Speaker 5: Here, but maybe because ultimately, remember the agent works for 2201 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,880 Speaker 5: the player. So if I go directly to the player 2202 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 5: and I make a very appeal in case to the player, hey, 2203 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,280 Speaker 5: here's what we can give you, here's about much money 2204 01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,320 Speaker 5: I can give you whatever. Well, if it appeals to 2205 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,120 Speaker 5: the player to play into the agent like yeah, man, 2206 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,240 Speaker 5: I hear what you're saying. You give me a couple 2207 01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,320 Speaker 5: more million or whatever, But I like this situation. They're 2208 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,400 Speaker 5: trying to apply pressure a few different ways to make 2209 01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 5: the agent collapse. Sometimes it works, though, and sometimes I 2210 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,639 Speaker 5: am a believer and deliver your own message. 2211 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,800 Speaker 3: Don't have your friend do it. You go directly and 2212 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,040 Speaker 3: deliver the message so it's clear. 2213 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,519 Speaker 5: There's no misunderstandings, and you're very direct with what it 2214 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 5: is that you want and expect. 2215 01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 3: All right. 2216 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 2: So, at the NFL meetings in Palm Beach, Florida the 2217 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:27,360 Speaker 2: other day, Jerry Jones said, this is in print. So 2218 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 2: he's willing to offer a megabucks contract that would make 2219 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,880 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons the star Edge Russier the highest paid non 2220 01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 2: quarterback in NFL history, with a deal in excess of 2221 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:41,479 Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year. 2222 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 4: All right, what's he waiting for? And why not? He 2223 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,800 Speaker 4: could have gone maybe for twenty million last year. 2224 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,400 Speaker 3: Crazy, there's a lot of money. There's a lot of money. 2225 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,400 Speaker 5: Look, man, it's just some particular it's probably length to deal, 2226 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,240 Speaker 5: how it's structured and those things. The Cowboys are never 2227 01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 5: hurting for cash. They always can deal with that part 2228 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,200 Speaker 5: of it. It's probably just the structure of the deal. 2229 01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,720 Speaker 5: The Cowboys likely we won't four or five years to 2230 01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,519 Speaker 5: make sure they can time to the team. Parkers may 2231 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,639 Speaker 5: want to get to the market sooner than that. Maybe 2232 01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,320 Speaker 5: three years is his number, three years in whatever number 2233 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,759 Speaker 5: that is, so he can get another bite at the apple. 2234 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,880 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about the Trey Hendrickson's of the 2235 01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,479 Speaker 2: world and the Michael Parsons. What does that do to 2236 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,800 Speaker 2: a player, especially if you're not signed or you're in 2237 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,000 Speaker 2: a signing season. With your play on the field. You've 2238 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,240 Speaker 2: seen players, I'm sure and you played with them that 2239 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,760 Speaker 2: how it affects them perhaps and their performance? Do they 2240 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:40,599 Speaker 2: play better that they play worse that they think about 2241 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,519 Speaker 2: it twenty four to seven? How does that work? I 2242 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,880 Speaker 2: mean to me, I'd rather have it locked up before 2243 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,439 Speaker 2: I go training camp, no matter good better indifference, get 2244 01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,479 Speaker 2: my name when the dotted line, get me in two years, 2245 01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,839 Speaker 2: three years, whatever it is, and I'm ready to play football. 2246 01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to have this lingering over my head. 2247 01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:59,280 Speaker 5: You're like the majority of the people that are dealing 2248 01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,080 Speaker 5: with do they want to so they can focus on 2249 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 5: one thing. There's some people who are willing to bet 2250 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,240 Speaker 5: on themselves, roll the dice and say, look, man, I 2251 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:06,880 Speaker 5: know I deserve more. 2252 01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,680 Speaker 3: I'm willing to. 2253 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,439 Speaker 5: Continue to push it, push the envelope to see if 2254 01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,479 Speaker 5: I can get more. Depends on your comfort level. 2255 01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:16,640 Speaker 4: What about you. I guess you want them to have 2256 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 4: it locked up, right. 2257 01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,960 Speaker 3: I prefer to have it locked up. 2258 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,720 Speaker 5: But I've also been willing to bet on myself in 2259 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 5: other areas, whether it comes to like in broadcast media, 2260 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,640 Speaker 5: I've been willing to bet on myself and just kind 2261 01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 5: of see what it looks like. It's not always great, 2262 01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 5: but sometimes you have to be willing to better on 2263 01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 5: yourself regardless of what it is. 2264 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 3: When you're in the midst of. 2265 01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,639 Speaker 5: The negotiation, you have to be able to compartmentalize your 2266 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 5: feelings so you can really kind of keep the main 2267 01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 5: thing the main thing, regardless of whatever the money is. 2268 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,360 Speaker 5: You got to play well and you got to continue 2269 01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:51,120 Speaker 5: to play well. So whatever vehicle or whatever decisions you 2270 01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 5: have to make to allow you to have that comfort. 2271 01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,840 Speaker 3: You have to do that. And ultimately, when it comes 2272 01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,800 Speaker 3: to contracts, only you know what will make you. 2273 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 5: You can't get caught up in what we call like 2274 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,680 Speaker 5: pocket watching, seeing what other people make or people telling me, 2275 01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,040 Speaker 5: well you should get this. You got to focus on 2276 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,200 Speaker 5: what do I need to make me happy, and if 2277 01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,600 Speaker 5: I sign a deal that makes me happy, you have 2278 01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:16,760 Speaker 5: to ignore all the other noise. 2279 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it seems to me what makes one happy 2280 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,800 Speaker 2: is getting more than what the guy who plays your 2281 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:23,599 Speaker 2: position makes. 2282 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:24,840 Speaker 4: That's what makes you happy. 2283 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,639 Speaker 3: Really, that's not agent. That's what makes the agent happy. 2284 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 3: It may not necessarily make the player happy. Every player 2285 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 3: doesn't worry about what the other person at the position makes. 2286 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,200 Speaker 5: Some players do, but not everyone. Some people do, so 2287 01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:43,160 Speaker 5: you got It depends on the person, you know. Like, 2288 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:47,240 Speaker 5: for me, I want enough for me to be good, 2289 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,040 Speaker 5: to be comfortable in those things. Now, if you're gonna 2290 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:51,560 Speaker 5: push the envelope and do that, you can do it. 2291 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 3: But those negotiations become harder. Depends on what makes you happy. 2292 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:56,080 Speaker 3: All right. 2293 01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,920 Speaker 2: By the way, For the best pregame show every weekend, 2294 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 2: be sure to do it to Fox Radio is Countdown 2295 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:05,000 Speaker 2: presented by BETMGM. Every Saturday and Sunday morning from nine 2296 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:07,880 Speaker 2: am to noon Eastern six to nine am Pacific. We 2297 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,599 Speaker 2: will count you down to all of the biggest games. 2298 01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,920 Speaker 2: There's no better places to prime you for the tournament 2299 01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,200 Speaker 2: games than right here. 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Have you heard 2326 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:36,880 Speaker 4: about that? 2327 01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:37,800 Speaker 8: No? 2328 01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:39,759 Speaker 4: With the Detroit Pistons. 2329 01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,240 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it's unbelieved. 2330 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:44,639 Speaker 4: They're going crazy in Motown. 2331 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,719 Speaker 2: One year after finishing with the worst record in the NBA, 2332 01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons are going to the playoffs for the 2333 01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,960 Speaker 2: first time since twenty eighteens. Last twenty nineteen, the Pistons 2334 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 2: punched their postseason ticket with a win over the Toronto 2335 01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,880 Speaker 2: Raptors Forday nine one, seventeen five. And you got to 2336 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,000 Speaker 2: give some credit to the first year coach JB. Bickerstaff. 2337 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,679 Speaker 2: Coaching does make a difference, you agree, I know it does. 2338 01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:12,080 Speaker 3: Makes a difference. 2339 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,679 Speaker 5: And I felt like he was wrongly dismissed from Cleveland. 2340 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 5: Thought he did a fantastic job getting the Cleveland Cavaliers 2341 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,920 Speaker 5: up and going. Can't argue to the results because Kenny 2342 01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,640 Speaker 5: Atkinson has taken it and run with it. But what 2343 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:28,000 Speaker 5: JB was able to do with Detroit toughness, physicality, everyone 2344 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:29,679 Speaker 5: playing at a high level level. 2345 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:34,080 Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham absolutely balling. I think his. 2346 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:38,120 Speaker 5: Experience, his experience dealing with underdogs has helped him come 2347 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,519 Speaker 5: up with a plan that enables them to kind of 2348 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:41,400 Speaker 5: win and win right away. 2349 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:44,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it amazes me because you have a team that 2350 01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,439 Speaker 4: won fourteen games a year ago. 2351 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,120 Speaker 2: New guy comes in basically you got the same roots 2352 01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,519 Speaker 2: of the team and the guys are basically you know, 2353 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,160 Speaker 2: together and saying, well, what is he going to do? 2354 01:43:55,439 --> 01:43:56,360 Speaker 4: How's he going to change it? 2355 01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:56,599 Speaker 8: Right? 2356 01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:57,360 Speaker 7: But he did. 2357 01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,880 Speaker 4: That's a that's a tough haul. You could know only 2358 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:01,040 Speaker 4: and O's in the world. 2359 01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:03,519 Speaker 2: You have to know how to get a guy through 2360 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,840 Speaker 2: his ears, between the ears, that's the key. And I 2361 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,400 Speaker 2: guess BJ bickers though JB. Bickerstaff did it. He knew 2362 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:10,880 Speaker 2: how to do it. You know how to press the 2363 01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,960 Speaker 2: right buttons. It's not plays. It's all social activity. It's 2364 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:15,960 Speaker 2: all relationships. 2365 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,320 Speaker 4: That's what it is. It's not drawing plays on a 2366 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:19,719 Speaker 4: truck board. It really isn't. 2367 01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:23,880 Speaker 5: He did a great No, it's not no it's not 2368 01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,280 Speaker 5: only like the exits and O's. I'll say it's the 2369 01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,280 Speaker 5: establishment of the word that everyone hates with his culture. 2370 01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,760 Speaker 3: But what the culture is is the environment creating standards. 2371 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:37,280 Speaker 5: And expectations and make sure those guys live up to 2372 01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 5: play up to those standards and expectations every day. It 2373 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:41,960 Speaker 5: can be something as simple as a we've going to 2374 01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 5: run back on every misshot. Everyone needs to get back. 2375 01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:45,120 Speaker 3: To the paint. 2376 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,640 Speaker 5: We're gonna die for loose walls. There's certain things that 2377 01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:50,760 Speaker 5: we're gonna do. We're gonna challenge every shot, but we're 2378 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,960 Speaker 5: not going to jump. We're gonna contest with our hands high. 2379 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,479 Speaker 5: All of those things that are things that you know 2380 01:44:56,760 --> 01:45:00,880 Speaker 5: are conducive to winning. You begin to stab, dolish those habits, 2381 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,920 Speaker 5: and what you hope is in time, as they began 2382 01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,559 Speaker 5: to embrace those habits, the results naturally change on the floor. 2383 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:10,840 Speaker 5: But you got to create the habits, and you got 2384 01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,840 Speaker 5: to create the habits without looking at the scoreboard, because 2385 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,720 Speaker 5: you know, if the habits are good, eventually the winds 2386 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 5: that come their byproduct of doing things the right way. 2387 01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,599 Speaker 4: You know what's going nuts in Detroit right now? 2388 01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:23,960 Speaker 2: Is there a PA announcer I listened to him in 2389 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:25,880 Speaker 2: the morning on Serious XM seventy four. 2390 01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,040 Speaker 4: Mason in the morning, he said, he's on the I 2391 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:30,559 Speaker 4: don't know if you heard. Have you listened to him 2392 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 4: in the great. 2393 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:33,599 Speaker 3: Listen him in the morning. But I know who you're 2394 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 3: talking about. 2395 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 4: Oh you know him? I mean you've met the guy. 2396 01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:37,479 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I've never met him. 2397 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:38,320 Speaker 4: I wrote him. 2398 01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,880 Speaker 2: He hasn't been me back. But I listed him in 2399 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 2: the morning on Serious XM. And he does the PA 2400 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,800 Speaker 2: for the Detroit Pistons. He's great, He's unbelievable in the morning. 2401 01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,280 Speaker 4: He really is. I love him, I really do, Mason. 2402 01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna write him again, so we'll see. 2403 01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:51,559 Speaker 3: All right. 2404 01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,439 Speaker 2: So we talk about how to promote a team, all right? 2405 01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:56,439 Speaker 2: And I think major League Baseball is onto something right 2406 01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:59,320 Speaker 2: now with this torpedo bat. It's not a big promotion, 2407 01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:00,920 Speaker 2: but a lot of people of buzzing up out of 2408 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,200 Speaker 2: talking about it, and the Yankees have really taking advantage 2409 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 2: of it because Aaron Judge is going nuts hitting home 2410 01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:09,040 Speaker 2: runs the torpedo bat. The design moves more mass to 2411 01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,800 Speaker 2: the sweet spot of the barrel, closer to the handle, 2412 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:14,320 Speaker 2: whatever the heck that means. But I guess it's working. 2413 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,519 Speaker 2: There's more meat there and the ball is going out 2414 01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,280 Speaker 2: of the ballpark, and that's what people want to see. 2415 01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 4: They want to see home runs and it's working right now. Oh, 2416 01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,800 Speaker 4: so good for them. Good for the torpedo bat. I'm 2417 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 4: glad they didn't find it illegal. That's what I'm happy about, 2418 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:31,120 Speaker 4: all right. I mean, like, the torpedo bat is interesting 2419 01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,840 Speaker 4: because you're talking about moving. Basically, what you're doing is 2420 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,880 Speaker 4: you're moving the sweet spot to. 2421 01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,840 Speaker 3: The place that the batter normally hits it. 2422 01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:42,040 Speaker 5: So taking all the analytics, all the data and beefing 2423 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,080 Speaker 5: up the area where the player normally strikes the ball 2424 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,519 Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense. Now people laugh because the 2425 01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,960 Speaker 5: bat looks funny. It's not quite a fun go bat, 2426 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:53,800 Speaker 5: but it looks it looks a little weird. It looks 2427 01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:58,439 Speaker 5: almost like a softball, a softball bat that's designed to 2428 01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 5: hit big home runs. But it's been the rule, so 2429 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,000 Speaker 5: I'm okay. 2430 01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:04,080 Speaker 4: With it, all right. 2431 01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:05,720 Speaker 2: So we talked about how to promote a team. I'm 2432 01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna let you relax right now, because I 2433 01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,400 Speaker 2: got a stack of promotions in baseball that have been 2434 01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,680 Speaker 2: going on or have gone already this year. 2435 01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,400 Speaker 4: Are you ready to hear this is great? 2436 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:14,880 Speaker 3: Love it. 2437 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:19,519 Speaker 2: The Chicago White Sox had a weather day recently, which 2438 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,600 Speaker 2: featured meteorological education. The game drew just twelve thousand spectators. 2439 01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 2: The White Sox lost to the Twins. You can't give 2440 01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 2: it away in Chicago's They're terrible. They lost ten to five. Okay, 2441 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,679 Speaker 2: but this is more Okay. April the eighteenth of this year, 2442 01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:37,599 Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox will have a Grateful Dead sixtieth 2443 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,559 Speaker 2: Anniversary Night and Pharmacist Appreciation Night on the same night. 2444 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:42,560 Speaker 4: How do you like that? 2445 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,320 Speaker 2: That's great? So you can take your drugs and listen 2446 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,920 Speaker 2: to the Grateful Dead at the same time on the 2447 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 2: same night. 2448 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 4: All right, I love that. 2449 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,360 Speaker 3: I mean that's very cool. 2450 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:55,160 Speaker 2: Last night last year, the Miami Marlins was sued by 2451 01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,559 Speaker 2: a woman who says she slipped on dog urine during 2452 01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,879 Speaker 2: the tea means bark at the park night in Miami, 2453 01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:04,720 Speaker 2: and you know, barking the park, the kids are on 2454 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,880 Speaker 2: the bases and have all that stuff over there. I 2455 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,599 Speaker 2: guess you know what, you know, you want to make 2456 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,200 Speaker 2: a little money over there. I guess the team's gonna 2457 01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:12,840 Speaker 2: have to pay out right now because she said she's 2458 01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,200 Speaker 2: slipped on urine. I thought that if you step on 2459 01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,800 Speaker 2: you and you get stuck in it, you don't slip 2460 01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:18,240 Speaker 2: on it. It's it's sticky. 2461 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:19,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 2462 01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:22,080 Speaker 2: I've never stepped in urine. I don't think at least 2463 01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,120 Speaker 2: I didn't do it intentionally, that's for sure. All right, 2464 01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:28,479 Speaker 2: here's another one for you. Uh you know monorin League 2465 01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:29,200 Speaker 2: Baseball does it all. 2466 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:29,840 Speaker 3: It's great. 2467 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,160 Speaker 2: Monta Leagues are the major leagues of promotional creativity. On 2468 01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:37,280 Speaker 2: September first of this year, the Lake Elsinore Storm, I 2469 01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,240 Speaker 2: don't even know what league they're in, but the Lake 2470 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:43,439 Speaker 2: Elzino Storm, they're gonna hold an awful night when, according 2471 01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:47,840 Speaker 2: to m i LB dot com, whatever can go wrong 2472 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:48,719 Speaker 2: will go wrong. 2473 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:52,200 Speaker 4: So be prepared for the best worst time of your life. 2474 01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,120 Speaker 4: Awful night. Crazy. 2475 01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,640 Speaker 2: But this is the stuff that gets people in ballparks 2476 01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 2: and you know, have people talk about things and stuff 2477 01:48:59,520 --> 01:48:59,680 Speaker 2: like that. 2478 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:00,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's fun. 2479 01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,519 Speaker 2: I love that stuff. So that's what they do, barking 2480 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,559 Speaker 2: the park events. That's pretty big. They do it at 2481 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,519 Speaker 2: NORLA ballparks. I don't understand how they clean up the 2482 01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,120 Speaker 2: mess after that. And I guess the woman in Miami 2483 01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,679 Speaker 2: fel and slipped on the urine. So it's gonna sue 2484 01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:14,559 Speaker 2: the Miami Marlins. 2485 01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 3: That's great. 2486 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,479 Speaker 2: So you know they don't do that in the NFL. 2487 01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,240 Speaker 2: Buck you know, you don't have to do that. People 2488 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,720 Speaker 2: come anyway. You have to promote those games like that. 2489 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,400 Speaker 2: Modnor League Baseball they do it, and some major league 2490 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,360 Speaker 2: teams do it as well. So different, but on college. 2491 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,439 Speaker 3: Too, I think, yeah, really different, real different. 2492 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:34,639 Speaker 2: The game is the game is the key in the NFL, 2493 01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,519 Speaker 2: not in modern league baseball. They don't know who the 2494 01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,479 Speaker 2: players are. They've got to have a good time. That's 2495 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,639 Speaker 2: exactly what they do. So that's basically a promotional thing 2496 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,439 Speaker 2: of it. So who knows, you know, and people have 2497 01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,759 Speaker 2: gone extreme, and I guess the key, the key promoter 2498 01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,000 Speaker 2: of all time, I guess is Bill Veck. I think 2499 01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,080 Speaker 2: the White Sox are going to aren't a Bill Veck 2500 01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,680 Speaker 2: later this year, the late Bill Veck. They're going to 2501 01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 2: have a night for him. I think the club's one 2502 01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty fifth anniversary. The Chicago White Sox. 2503 01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:06,519 Speaker 4: Their history includes three World Series titles, the Black Sox 2504 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,720 Speaker 4: Scandal of nineteen nineteen, and of course Bill Veck and 2505 01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,320 Speaker 4: Bill Veck owned the White Sox from nineteen fifty nine 2506 01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:14,640 Speaker 4: to sixty one, and then he owned it again from 2507 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,400 Speaker 4: seventy five to nineteen eighty. One of my idols in 2508 01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:19,400 Speaker 4: life Bill Veck, So what are you gonna do? 2509 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,439 Speaker 3: And then you're I know, I bet it. 2510 01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,400 Speaker 2: One time when I lived in Florida and they were 2511 01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,720 Speaker 2: having a game against the Yankees and Fort Layda Dale 2512 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,400 Speaker 2: spring training. I walked over to introduced myself and he 2513 01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,439 Speaker 2: was smoking a cigarette and he put it out of 2514 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 2: his ashtray and his wooden leg. He had an ashtray 2515 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,560 Speaker 2: attached to his wooden leg. He lost his leg in 2516 01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,400 Speaker 2: the war. So that was That was my Bill Veck story. 2517 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,760 Speaker 2: There you go, any good stories with you give me 2518 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 2: a good story there both. 2519 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,920 Speaker 5: So I don't really have a great story when it 2520 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,120 Speaker 5: comes to any of those things. I feel like I 2521 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:51,960 Speaker 5: emptied the bucket with my stories. When I told you 2522 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,920 Speaker 5: about making a move to defensive back, I think I 2523 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:56,880 Speaker 5: need to ponder a little bit. 2524 01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:58,400 Speaker 3: You give me three him in So I don't I 2525 01:50:58,400 --> 01:50:59,760 Speaker 3: have a great story. I wish I had a great 2526 01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:00,280 Speaker 3: story for you. 2527 01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,120 Speaker 2: Oh you've got great stories. What about a story about 2528 01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,360 Speaker 2: a teammate? A teammate you played with some looms because 2529 01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,320 Speaker 2: I know there was a story that someone told me 2530 01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:11,519 Speaker 2: about the Cincinnati Bengals. I can't recall this name, but 2531 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,519 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even mention it because I don't embarrass him 2532 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:15,360 Speaker 2: because I asked him one time in the locker room. 2533 01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,920 Speaker 2: One of the players asked him, why do you always shower? 2534 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:19,519 Speaker 2: I think I mentioned this to you once, Why do 2535 01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:21,360 Speaker 2: you shower before practice? And he said, I do it 2536 01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 2: so enough? The shower after practice, that's. 2537 01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 5: All okay, Yeah, let's see. I don't know what we're 2538 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,639 Speaker 5: like like like for me, like the showering before practice 2539 01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,120 Speaker 5: thing was funny because I am one that takes a 2540 01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,200 Speaker 5: shower before games. Really got warm up, cut me in, 2541 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,839 Speaker 5: take a shower before the game, put on the uniform, 2542 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:40,519 Speaker 5: didn't go play. 2543 01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 3: That was always kind of a thing and continue to 2544 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:44,880 Speaker 3: be a thing. I don't know. 2545 01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,439 Speaker 5: There's something about the shower that not only wakes you 2546 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,240 Speaker 5: up and perks you up, but I don't know. I 2547 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,360 Speaker 5: kind of want to feel fresh and clean. That was 2548 01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 5: one thing. And then I always like for game they choose, 2549 01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,280 Speaker 5: I only wore my the clease on game day. Only 2550 01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,760 Speaker 5: on game day, like I would break them in. But 2551 01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,559 Speaker 5: because I always wanted my shoes to be either super 2552 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:11,080 Speaker 5: crispy white or whatever color that we had if they 2553 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,280 Speaker 5: were black or whatever. So I had a different set 2554 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,280 Speaker 5: of shoes that were practicing, but on game day these 2555 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:19,519 Speaker 5: are my game day shoes. And I was just really 2556 01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,839 Speaker 5: fanatical about being super clean and super crispy white because 2557 01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,080 Speaker 5: I felt like it looked the part and the last. 2558 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,840 Speaker 3: Thing that would be a little bit of a weirdo thing. 2559 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,879 Speaker 5: Because as a kid, whenever I looked at NFL football, 2560 01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,519 Speaker 5: I always saw players wearing eye black, like the two 2561 01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,160 Speaker 5: strips of black right up on the decrease type that 2562 01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:42,680 Speaker 5: was smeared up under. So I could only play with 2563 01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,320 Speaker 5: eye black, whether it's a day game or night game. 2564 01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,120 Speaker 5: I had to put eye black on because I felt 2565 01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:51,679 Speaker 5: like that made me the quote unquote tough football player. 2566 01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:54,280 Speaker 2: Is that why they wear or does it really help 2567 01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,680 Speaker 2: you with with sun? I mean I wanted to wear 2568 01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:00,000 Speaker 2: it at night. If you wear it for sun, right. 2569 01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know. I wear 2570 01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,600 Speaker 3: it because it's a part of the lug. Maybe it 2571 01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,320 Speaker 3: helps with the sun. I don't know. I just saw 2572 01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:09,960 Speaker 3: everybody do it. 2573 01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,720 Speaker 5: It's very similar to I got in trouble as a 2574 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:18,439 Speaker 5: kid one time, Fred Bolitnikov would have stick him everywhere, 2575 01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,760 Speaker 5: and one of my first little league games, I put 2576 01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 5: stick them on my socks like bulitnikoff, where I didn't 2577 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,200 Speaker 5: know that when my mom watched my socks that the 2578 01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:29,280 Speaker 5: sticker wouldn't come out. 2579 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:33,000 Speaker 3: She wasn't really happy about having stick them on my 2580 01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:36,800 Speaker 3: little socks. But yeah, so you know, you mimic what 2581 01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:37,280 Speaker 3: you see. 2582 01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:40,479 Speaker 2: What about a lucky number that you wanted to wear 2583 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,439 Speaker 2: high school, college pro I wore twenty two. 2584 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,719 Speaker 5: I wore twenty two for most of my time coming 2585 01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,759 Speaker 5: up because twenty two my birthday is the twenty second 2586 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 5: of January. My dad's number was twenty two, so I 2587 01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:55,280 Speaker 5: always wore twenty two. 2588 01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was number. That was number always. 2589 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,240 Speaker 4: Would you have paid for number twenty two? 2590 01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:03,960 Speaker 2: Because I see some of these athletes will give up 2591 01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,400 Speaker 2: big money to other players on the team for their number. 2592 01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:07,320 Speaker 4: Would you have done that? 2593 01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:09,960 Speaker 3: I mean it means a lot, doesn't mean that much 2594 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,680 Speaker 3: to me. I'm not gonna be significant sums. I can 2595 01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,080 Speaker 3: find another number to get it to make work. I'll 2596 01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:19,840 Speaker 3: figure it out. But yeah, I'm not paying like with 2597 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,200 Speaker 3: some of these guys pay. Yeah, no, that's not gonna happen. 2598 01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,280 Speaker 4: There we go, all right, he's Bucket Brooks. I'm Any Firman. 2599 01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,439 Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Ready. 2600 01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, calm the chaos with the shipping 2601 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,720 Speaker 2: software that delivers use code sports for a free trial 2602 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,000 Speaker 2: at shipstation dot com. 2603 01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,400 Speaker 4: That shipstation dot com code Sports. 2604 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,120 Speaker 2: I think they make you say it twice because they 2605 01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,280 Speaker 2: want to make sure you don't screw up, because ship 2606 01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:48,000 Speaker 2: station you could slip up very easily by saying ship station. 2607 01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,960 Speaker 2: There you go, Bucket Brooks, Andy Firman, Fox Sports Sunday 2608 01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Ready. 2609 01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:53,800 Speaker 4: Yes, it's that time. 2610 01:54:54,280 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 2: Point your finger because the blame game is freaking next game. 2611 01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:01,000 Speaker 4: Coming right up. 2612 01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,480 Speaker 2: It's about right now, eleven minutes before the top of 2613 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,120 Speaker 2: the hour, and of course at the top of the hour, 2614 01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:09,800 Speaker 2: nine o'clock Eastern time, we will have countdown with Brian O, 2615 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:12,320 Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartzer, Bill Krakenberg, a countdown. 2616 01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:13,879 Speaker 4: Get you ready for the big. 2617 01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,960 Speaker 2: Games all time, all time. There you go, and of 2618 01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,400 Speaker 2: course we are lying at the Tirack dot Com studio. 2619 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,440 Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks on Andy frommember right now, it's 2620 01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:23,640 Speaker 2: time for the. 2621 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,280 Speaker 4: Blame game with me. 2622 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,360 Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault. 2623 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:29,840 Speaker 3: What is all your hault? 2624 01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,760 Speaker 4: Maybe it's everyone's fault. 2625 01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:38,440 Speaker 1: Who knows he's a liar. That's why there's the blame game. 2626 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,800 Speaker 1: The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. 2627 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,840 Speaker 4: He's a liar. Here he is t he's a liar. 2628 01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,000 Speaker 8: I'm a liar, Andy, All right, Well, let's get lying 2629 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:52,360 Speaker 8: away here, guys. So Ja Morant was fined seventy five 2630 01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,560 Speaker 8: hundred for pointing a fake finger gun by twenty five thousand, 2631 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,960 Speaker 8: seventy five thousand, seventy five hundred, seventy five thousand, My bad, 2632 01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:00,840 Speaker 8: lift of zero. 2633 01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:02,680 Speaker 10: Hey it's early morning, My bad. 2634 01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:06,400 Speaker 8: I'm not a money guy anyways, for the fake finger 2635 01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,960 Speaker 8: gun by the NBA after being warned twice. 2636 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:10,960 Speaker 10: Is he being picked on? 2637 01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:12,040 Speaker 1: Or is it bad? 2638 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:13,520 Speaker 3: Who do you blame? 2639 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:14,160 Speaker 10: Mandy? 2640 01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:18,040 Speaker 2: I blame the National Basketball So if very easy to 2641 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,040 Speaker 2: blame John Moran, okay, because he was worn several times. 2642 01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,320 Speaker 2: But there are all the guys on that team doing 2643 01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,360 Speaker 2: the same thing. And the fact that he had a 2644 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:29,600 Speaker 2: loaded weapon on video several years ago and was suspended. 2645 01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,360 Speaker 2: They are picking on him. Leave him alone, and they're 2646 01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:36,000 Speaker 2: finding him out. The Wazu eight million dollars plus suspensions. 2647 01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 4: Leave him alone. He's being picked on. So I blame 2648 01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 4: the league. 2649 01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:40,240 Speaker 7: Let it go. 2650 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,800 Speaker 3: Give him some help, yes, plea your help. I blame him. 2651 01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,080 Speaker 3: They told him, hey man, quit shooting the gun, the 2652 01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:50,320 Speaker 3: fake gun on the basketball court. He made a decision 2653 01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:51,520 Speaker 3: to do it. That's on him. 2654 01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,440 Speaker 5: Jamaran has quit being a ding dong, like, just quit 2655 01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,320 Speaker 5: doing that stuff. They've asked you about it, they told 2656 01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:57,480 Speaker 5: you about it. They want you to be the face 2657 01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:00,120 Speaker 5: of the league right now. He's messing with the bad. 2658 01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,360 Speaker 10: All right. Well, guys, I like that Bucky ding dongal 2659 01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:11,760 Speaker 10: it's funny. But let's move on. So college basketball goes there, goes. 2660 01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:16,960 Speaker 10: I'm never gonna get that anyway, He's wi. 2661 01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:22,080 Speaker 8: So college basketball has the NCAA Tournament, the nit in 2662 01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:23,840 Speaker 8: the crown too many? 2663 01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:27,560 Speaker 10: If so, who do you blame Bucky Brooks? 2664 01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,240 Speaker 5: I don't know, because I don't know who created a crown. 2665 01:57:31,240 --> 01:57:33,160 Speaker 5: I mean, the crown is nice, but there's a payoff there. 2666 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,880 Speaker 5: It's a lot of basketball. We already are kind of 2667 01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:39,120 Speaker 5: like ify on college basketball. It seems like it's too much. 2668 01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:42,760 Speaker 5: I didn't even know. The nit concluded that's how much 2669 01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,200 Speaker 5: basketball has been going on. So I just kind of 2670 01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,320 Speaker 5: blamed the state of affairs too much basketball, too much. 2671 01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,160 Speaker 4: You can't get enough basketball. It's great. 2672 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,920 Speaker 2: The only thing that bothers me is got you teams 2673 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,000 Speaker 2: that have losing records are competing with some of these events, 2674 01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,320 Speaker 2: which I think is ridiculous. I mean, you have to 2675 01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:01,600 Speaker 2: earn it, and so of these teams aren't earning it. 2676 01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:04,280 Speaker 2: They're just there on name only. But you know why, 2677 01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,240 Speaker 2: I love basketball. Let him play, keep on playing. You 2678 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:09,840 Speaker 2: know why, what's the alternative going to class? You know 2679 01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:11,720 Speaker 2: we're going to class. Play basketball. 2680 01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:15,480 Speaker 8: Well, speaking of playing basketball, we got the Yukon women's 2681 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:19,680 Speaker 8: basketball basketball actually a page Buker's was projected to be 2682 01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,360 Speaker 8: the number one pick in the w NBA draft and 2683 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,760 Speaker 8: now getting more hype than Caitlyn Clark did. 2684 01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,720 Speaker 10: Why and hoo do you you blame Andy? 2685 01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:32,600 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I blame the game itself. Be goes. 2686 01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:34,680 Speaker 2: I think that's the way they sell women's basketball right now. 2687 01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:36,480 Speaker 2: You got to sell the stars. You gotta sell the names, 2688 01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:38,920 Speaker 2: and the names basically draw you. When they suck you 2689 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:41,280 Speaker 2: in like Caitlin Clark did, and all of a sudden, 2690 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:42,560 Speaker 2: you become a user. 2691 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:44,480 Speaker 4: You become a user what does that mean. 2692 01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,720 Speaker 2: You've become a fan and you start watching it, so 2693 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:49,160 Speaker 2: you want to see page Becker sye how good she is, 2694 01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,720 Speaker 2: and then you'll keep on watching the game itself. 2695 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,520 Speaker 1: That's what it is. 2696 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, she's a great player. 2697 01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:58,640 Speaker 5: She's a great player, and people are just kind of 2698 01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,600 Speaker 5: reacquainting themselves with her. But she's talented, she's terrific, and 2699 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,120 Speaker 5: this would be an opportunity for us to. 2700 01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,160 Speaker 3: See her on the main stage. Never won a Natty, 2701 01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:10,000 Speaker 3: so she's gonna go hard. I'm sure, all right? 2702 01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:13,840 Speaker 8: Final blame here, guys. The number eight has been well 2703 01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:17,560 Speaker 8: known among many athletes and sports so Baltimore Ravens star 2704 01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:21,840 Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson has taken that number to another level. His 2705 01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,680 Speaker 8: attorney filed a notice of opposition with the Patent and 2706 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 8: Trademark Office against NASCAR Hall of Famer Dale Earnhard Junior 2707 01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:34,840 Speaker 8: for a pending trademark claim by JR Motorsports. That's his 2708 01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:39,480 Speaker 8: Earnhart's a team because over the style uses of number eight. 2709 01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:40,640 Speaker 10: Who do you blame here? 2710 01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,120 Speaker 8: Jackson's notice of opposition is the number style that is 2711 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,160 Speaker 8: in a different fund. He says it conflicts with his brand, 2712 01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:50,160 Speaker 8: the Era eight brand. Who do you blame Rocky Brooks. 2713 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:53,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. It seems like a live man. I 2714 01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,160 Speaker 3: don't know how you can claim a number like I 2715 01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,360 Speaker 3: think they need to figure out this outlight because. 2716 01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,480 Speaker 5: Everyone has their favorite number. I don't know why they 2717 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,400 Speaker 5: in court talking about the number. It's kind of weird 2718 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:03,640 Speaker 5: to me. I'm laying Lamar Jackson his crew for bringing 2719 02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:03,920 Speaker 5: it up. 2720 02:00:04,480 --> 02:00:06,320 Speaker 4: I hate to agree with Bucket Books, but Lamar, you 2721 02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:07,440 Speaker 4: got more things on your plate. 2722 02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,320 Speaker 2: I mean really, I mean, you got too much free 2723 02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,360 Speaker 2: time on your hand here worrying about your number. 2724 02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Let it go. 2725 02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,480 Speaker 2: When people see number eight, they know it's you, they 2726 02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,200 Speaker 2: really do. And with that we say, have a great day, 2727 02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:20,480 Speaker 2: have a great week. We'll see you next Sunday, right 2728 02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:22,000 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.