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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports. Good morning everybody. Hope you're

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Speaker 1: enjoying your Saturday. Careful about poking the bear. We will

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Speaker 1: Jared Smith along for the ride today. And man, what

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Speaker 1: a game last night. As Jimmy Butler fuels the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 1: they come back. They beat the Boston Celtics in Game two,

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Speaker 1: Miami up to nothing in this series, both road wins

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Speaker 1: and some of the big news is Grant Williams, who

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Speaker 1: went face to face fourhead to forehead with Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 1: riled him up, and then proceeded to only get one

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Speaker 1: stop on Jimmy when he was guarding him. Jimmy was

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Speaker 1: five for six from the field when Grant Williams was

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Speaker 1: guarding him. I don't know about you, Jared, I'm not

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Speaker 1: against all things poking the bear, but man, if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, it better work out. And it did

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Speaker 1: not for Grant Williams last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning everyone.

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Speaker 3: I think our friends in Boston this morning are not

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Speaker 3: feeling too hot. I think the entire region of South

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Speaker 3: Florida will not be welcome. And granted, not a lot

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Speaker 3: of you know, fan bases or geographies are welcome in

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Speaker 3: Boston anyways, outside of the Boston Heights. But after the

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Speaker 3: Florida Panthers beat the Bruins in the first round of

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Speaker 3: the playoffs, and now it looks like the heat. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to put a fork in the Celtics just yet,

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Speaker 3: but maybe I'll take one of the mini forks, maybe

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Speaker 3: one of those or derv spoons. And we're starting to

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Speaker 3: starting to soak up the deliciousness because this is this

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Speaker 3: is becoming one of the more I think impactful upset

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Speaker 3: stories of our generation. Right, Like I was trying to think,

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Speaker 3: and I agree that I would not be poking. Let's

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Speaker 3: just leave it at this. If I am poking a bear,

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Speaker 3: it's not going to be the Jimmy Butler bear. Maybe

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Speaker 3: i'd poke the bam At of Bio bear, maybe the

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Speaker 3: Max Struce bear, but I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I would poke with Jimmy bear.

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Speaker 3: They were up nine. Boston was when that incident happened.

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Speaker 3: With six minutes left, it was ninety six to eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Grant Williams puts his head right into Jimmy's chest and

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Speaker 3: then all heck breaks loose from there, and of course

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Speaker 3: the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: Wanting to lose the game. But can you recall, like.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to think about this last night, I

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Speaker 3: did a show after the game, and I was trying

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Speaker 3: to think of a of a point in professional sports

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Speaker 3: where a team got by multiple rounds in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: on more will than skill. And I don't want to

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Speaker 3: take anything away from the skillfulness of the Heat, but

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Speaker 3: like I was trying to think of Yukon's run in

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Speaker 3: the twenty fourteen tournament, where it was just they were

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Speaker 3: the hungry. They were hungrier than everybody else. Miami just

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Speaker 3: seems like they want it more and in those big

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Speaker 4: That's an interesting thought.

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Speaker 5: You go back and the archives here and maybe you

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Speaker 5: think about the Knicks when they were in eight C Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and uh.

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Speaker 2: You trust free well and sure you know Patrick Ewing right, like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't know, was you in still around.

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Speaker 2: For that one in ninety nine, I think he.

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Speaker 3: I think he might have been at the end, at

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Speaker 3: the tail end, because they went to the finals that year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did go, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then they got crushed in the in the finals

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Speaker 3: But it I do think Patrick was still on that team.

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Speaker 2: I might be wrong. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'd have to go that. Yeah, it's been a long time.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of some other ones where I

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Speaker 5: was thinking that we believe Warriors a pretty good one

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Speaker 5: where you think about Byron Davis, dunking On and Drake Kirolinko.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they they only win one round.

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Speaker 5: They got to the second round when gott Conference finals, like.

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Speaker 2: This team's going.

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Speaker 3: This team's two wins away from the finals. So Ewing

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Speaker 3: didn't play in the finals because he hurt his achilles.

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Speaker 3: But he was on the team that year. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: think that might have been the last year. But again

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Speaker 3: they had Patrick Ewing and Allen Houston. TELLSPU that was

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Speaker 3: still a really talented team. I would consider that NIXT

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, that's the tough thing is in the NBA,

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Speaker 5: You're gonna find talent on any team.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna make any run. You're right, but.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, your point is well received because

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Speaker 5: you think about Miami and Jimmy Butler is a star.

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler's at standing, Bam Auto Baio is a very

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Speaker 4: He's just inconsistent.

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Speaker 5: And then you've got a collection of just undrafted free agents.

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Speaker 5: You got seven of them on this Heat squad, and

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Speaker 5: a lot of them contribute. They're not just into the

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Speaker 5: bench guy, not even the rotation. He maybe gets eleven

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Speaker 5: minutes at night, and he'll score you a bucket every

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Speaker 5: other Thursday, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like, these guys are solid contributors.

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Speaker 3: And you know the names are not going to value, right,

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Speaker 3: And you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 2: They're all role players.

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Speaker 3: I mean Gabe Vincent from you see Santa Barbara in

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Speaker 3: being really he played forty minutes last night. Like, these

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Speaker 2: And part of it's because of the Tyler Hero injury.

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Speaker 3: But again it goes back to I can't recall a

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Speaker 3: time like think about who the Heat have beaten. First

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Speaker 3: of all, they were a loss away from being eliminated.

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Speaker 3: They were in the final playing game, like not even

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Speaker 3: They beat the Bucks. I know the Bucks had the injury,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden they move on to the next round.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to say the Knicks were a

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Speaker 3: And then you get to this Boston series and you

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Speaker 3: think to yourself, yeah, this is probably when the run ends.

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Speaker 3: Boston's deeper. They're better at pretty much every position. They're

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Speaker 3: more talented, they've got home court advantage. They've been great

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Speaker 2: Now Boston's lost two home games in the series. They

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Speaker 3: Five hundred team in the playoffs in this postseason, and

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Speaker 3: I love Shaq and Kenny and Charles. They do such

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Speaker 3: a great job. And you know, most of it's goofing,

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Speaker 3: you know, goofing off and silliness. But on the pregame show,

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Speaker 3: on the postgame show after game one, I Shack. They're

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Speaker 3: goofing off about something, and all of a sudden, Shack

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Speaker 3: drops this line like, yeah, we didn't lose home playoff

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Speaker 3: games when we were making our run. You don't lose

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Speaker 3: So I don't want to say it's over. But when

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Speaker 3: you lose both games at home and you struggle at

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Speaker 3: home and now you got to go to Miami and

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Speaker 3: probably win too, I feel like Boston might be done.

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Speaker 5: It's uh, it's a rough spot to be and there's

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Speaker 5: no doubt, and I am I'm simultaneously disappointed by the

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Speaker 4: Impressed with the Miami heat.

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Speaker 5: I think it can be both where you're right, you

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Speaker 5: can't be dropping games left and right at home in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs, especially to an eight seed and granted, the

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Speaker 5: Miami Heat aren't your run of the mill eight seed,

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Speaker 5: but they're still an eight seed. They will playing team

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. You can't be losing at

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Speaker 5: At the same time, I'm really impressed with Miami because

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Speaker 5: you know as well as I do, Jared, there are

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Speaker 5: double digits late in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Doespen shop Yeah, they just.

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Speaker 5: Say, yes, isn't our night. You know, we'll try to

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Speaker 5: get him in Game three, we're going with six minutes left,

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Speaker 5: they just they.

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Speaker 3: The game was like, I don't want to say it

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Speaker 3: sixteen consecutive wins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For the team down one zero in the series that

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Speaker 3: lost Game one at home, they are. And the only

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Speaker 3: steamed up and Jimmy Butler got hurt against that Knicks

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Speaker 3: in Game two. But so the Heat were the only

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Speaker 3: team that bucked the trends. I guess we shouldn't be

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Speaker 5: They are like zombies with agility. That's how I see

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Speaker 5: the Miami Heat. You know, they're just kind of coming

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Speaker 2: But they just falling off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they've got agility and they've got real skill there.

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Speaker 5: If zombies could hit three pointers, that would be the

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Speaker 3: That's my that might be my favorite line from the

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Speaker 3: show already. We're only ten minutes in. If zombies could

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Speaker 3: hit threes there. There's just like Spolster's out coaching everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's it's gotten to the point with Spolster, like I

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Speaker 2: And I guess, Missoula, I don't want to put him

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Speaker 3: And I think there's gonna be a lot of questions

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Speaker 3: saying he didn't deserve the job. He absolutely deserved to

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of questions.

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Speaker 3: There's certainly a lot of questions when you get out

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Speaker 3: foxed like this, the adjustments, there's no more buttons to push.

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Speaker 3: They made the Robert Williams adjustment and it's work but

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Speaker 2: And man, I don't know if I could see.

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Speaker 3: So the Lakers, the Nuggets, and the Heat are the

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Speaker 3: three teams right now that are obviously still left outside

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Speaker 3: of where we are with the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: And those three teams haven't lost at home in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So wow, I just I don't know if I see

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Speaker 3: Boston going down to Miami and winning two out of three.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if I see it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another.

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Speaker 2: Part of it.

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Speaker 5: And that's just to give you a chance to win

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Speaker 5: your teams at home, right, like you know, So that's

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Speaker 5: it's pretty wild to think of it like that.

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Speaker 4: Now, this is that's funny. So this is on tnc.

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Speaker 5: This is the audio of the altercation where Grant Williams

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was great entertainment value. It just it

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Speaker 5: But I'm like this, Jared, if you're gonna do it,

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Speaker 4: And it sure didn't last night. Man, not at all.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a toughness thing. He's tough.

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Speaker 5: It's yes, he's not on Jimmy Butler's skill level. No,

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Speaker 5: and when you're doing that, Draymond Green put it really

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Speaker 2: So did Draymonds already? Did you do a podcast episode

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you take there good, very nice.

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Speaker 4: I'm interested in what you have to say about that

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Speaker 2: You know, we bring one of my teams into it, Brian,

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Speaker 2: I'm always you always hate my interest.

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Speaker 4: If I bring in uh, you know, Penn State, Notre

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Speaker 2: You know that's it's usually true. It's usually a veiled

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Speaker 5: You know what your jets? Your jets there, Jared. They

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Speaker 5: Oh really yeah. This goes back to the twenty ten

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Speaker 3: This is one situation, well, actually every situation is better

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Speaker 3: In this case, they didn't because they were ahead in

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Speaker 3: gonna poke the bear right, I'm gonna make some comments

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Speaker 3: I don't know, whatever it is the Jets did that week,

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Speaker 3: I think Grant Williams kind of went rogue, right Like,

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Speaker 3: I would make it a team thing. Hey listen, I'm

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Speaker 5: And you see the difference with Jimmy Butler, who's a star,

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Speaker 5: and just the aggressiveness. Jimmy Butler is not going to

438
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Speaker 5: go bucket lists in two straight fourth quarters. It's not

439
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Speaker 5: gonna happen. But that's exactly what's happened at home for

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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum and I mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize we had a clip.

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Speaker 3: But that's a great lead in because what I said

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Speaker 3: last segment about how poignant those guys can be on

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Speaker 3: the desk despite all of the antics, and it is

445
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Speaker 3: a fantastic show. But when they give you those little nuggets,

446
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Speaker 3: when they stop the jawing at each other for a minute,

447
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Speaker 3: and again, it's very entertaining.

448
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Speaker 2: It's tele they're supposed to be entertaining.

449
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Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden, Charles A Shack, I'll

450
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Speaker 3: give you just the little little dribbn drab of the

451
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Speaker 3: brain power of when they were in that mode.

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Speaker 2: Because listen, those guys played it.

453
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Speaker 3: I would say Kenny not as much, but Shack and

454
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Speaker 3: Charles played it arguably the highest level he could possibly

455
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Speaker 3: play in the NBA for a long stretch of time.

456
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Speaker 3: I know Shack had more team success, but Charles was

457
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Speaker 3: pretty successful too in his own right. But when those

458
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Speaker 3: guys give you those glimpses and they turn out to

459
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Speaker 3: be just as spot on as they could possibly be,

460
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Speaker 3: because Charles could not be any more right, there is

461
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Speaker 3: a certain element of want and right will. Like it's

462
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Speaker 3: will over skill, and it's not taking anything away from

463
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Speaker 3: Jimmy's skill, But Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown are more

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Speaker 3: talented to the Jimmy Butler like. I don't think it

465
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Speaker 3: takes a reasonable mind or to admit that in terms

466
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Speaker 3: of their overall basketball talent. But when it's crunch time

467
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Speaker 3: and when the going gets tough, right to steal a cliche,

468
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Speaker 3: the tough get going, and Jimmy Butlers just tougher than

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Speaker 3: those guys.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with their basketball skill.

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Speaker 3: It's just they have the ability Jimmy does to mentally

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Speaker 3: raise his game, to focus.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm reading this book called The Power of Now. It's

475
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Speaker 3: all about spirituality and focusing, being in the present. I

476
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Speaker 3: don't know if Jimmy's read the book, but he he

477
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Speaker 3: showcases those qualities where nothing else matters except for the moment,

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Speaker 3: the present moment, and he has the ability to just elevate,

479
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Speaker 3: and not a lot of athletes do it. Frankly, I

480
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Speaker 3: think more athletes at the star level are the opposite.

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Speaker 2: It takes a rare.

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Speaker 3: Breed for an athlete to be at the top of

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Speaker 3: his game physically and mentally. Usually it's one or the other,

484
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Speaker 3: and Jimmy has the ability to do both.

485
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Speaker 5: You know who else has the ability to do both?

486
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Speaker 5: That would be one Isaac Lowe Kron. He could do

487
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Speaker 5: multiple dimensions the same time, all of them positives, no

488
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Speaker 5: negatives over here.

489
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Speaker 4: And he's got the latest for us in the sports world.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: I loow good morning, fouls and indeed the latest games

492
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Speaker 9: a few of the Eastern Conference finals. That continues to trend,

493
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Speaker 9: with the Miami Heat rallying from twelve down with ten

494
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Speaker 9: to eighteen left in the fourth to win at Boston

495
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Speaker 9: on eleven, one to five for two games to non lead.

496
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Speaker 9: They outscored them down the stretch thirty four to sixteen.

497
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Speaker 9: The afore mentioned mister Butler twenty seven points, bam At

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Speaker 9: a Bio twenty two points, seventeen rebounds, nine assist Caleb

499
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Speaker 9: Martin scored twenty five off the bench. And by the way,

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Speaker 9: here was Butler's extended reaction to is certainly and very

501
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Speaker 9: quickly infamous verbal tet to TETs with Boston's Grant Williams.

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Speaker 10: That's just competition. At his finals, he hit a big shot,

503
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Speaker 10: started talking to me.

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Speaker 12: I like that.

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Speaker 10: I'm all for that. It makes me key in a

506
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Speaker 10: lot more and it pushes that will that I have

507
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Speaker 10: to win a lot more, and it makes me smile.

508
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Speaker 10: It does when people talk to me. I'm like, Okay,

509
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Speaker 10: I know I'm a decent player if you want to

510
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Speaker 10: talk to me out of everybody that you can talk to.

511
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Speaker 10: But I don't know, it's just competition. I do respect

512
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Speaker 10: him though. He's a big part of what they try

513
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Speaker 10: to do. He switches, he can shoot the ball. I

514
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Speaker 10: just don't know if I'm the best person to talk to.

515
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Speaker 9: Maybe that will inspire Butler to lower the price of

516
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Speaker 9: his big face coffee to a reasonable amount instead of

517
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Speaker 9: twenty bucks a cup. Man, there's a little trash talk

518
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Speaker 9: for you there, Jimmy.

519
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Speaker 2: What's this story.

520
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Speaker 3: He's going to post you up sell over the price

521
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Speaker 3: coffee like everyone else in this country.

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Speaker 9: Well that's true. Well overprices with twenty dollars for one cup,

523
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Speaker 9: I understand. I mean, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: South Beach prices isak.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a good point. There's a South Beach sacks.

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Speaker 2: I understand.

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Speaker 9: It's it's sourced from you know, Guatemala, Brazil, Honduras, El Salvador,

528
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Speaker 9: the coffee meccas of this world. But still maybe a

529
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Speaker 9: little less than twenty dollars a cup.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know he sold coffee.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, it got started in the in the bubble,

532
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Speaker 9: and I thought it was like a joke. But he

533
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Speaker 9: would sell his coffee in the bubble and charge twenty

534
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Speaker 9: dollars a cup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he was hustling people in the bubble.

536
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Speaker 2: I remember I saw that interview.

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Speaker 9: And now, so twenty dollars a cup. It's called big Face,

538
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Speaker 9: Big Face coffee. It's sold it a pop up shop.

539
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Speaker 9: And he was like, you know what, I actually need

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Speaker 9: to increase the price. And that's why he called it

541
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Speaker 9: big face coffee because the face on one hundred dollars

542
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Speaker 9: bills is like that's literally the truth.

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Speaker 3: I would get in his face about the coffee prices

544
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Speaker 3: before I would get in his face about his play

545
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Speaker 3: on the floor.

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Speaker 9: And I would demand a taste tests like yeah, big

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Speaker 9: face coffee on one side, and.

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Speaker 2: A competition in the coffee space these days.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, and you know the coffee you make it home.

550
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Speaker 9: So yeah, there's a little trash talking for you, jam

551
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Speaker 9: get in his face. Game one of the NHL's Western

552
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Speaker 9: Conference Finals saw the Vegas Golden Knights defeat the Dallas

553
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Speaker 9: Stars four to three. After only a minute and thirty

554
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Speaker 9: five seconds of overtime on Red Howden goal because the whiz. Yeah,

555
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Speaker 9: it wasn't even a school note. You know you got

556
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Speaker 9: people in Carolina hanging out till one thirty in the

557
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Speaker 9: morning anyway. In Major League Baseball on Friday, the Boston

558
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Speaker 9: Red Sox wanted San Diego over the Padres six to one,

559
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Speaker 9: Rafael Devers at two home runs. Padres have lost ten

560
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Speaker 9: of twelve. USC Athletic director Mike Bone abruptly resigned Friday,

561
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Speaker 9: one day after The LA Times asked him and USC

562
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Speaker 9: about internal criticism of his management and behavior that included

563
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Speaker 9: Bone allegedly making inappropriate remarks about the physical appearance of

564
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Speaker 9: female colleagues. Finally, after two rounds of the PGA Championship,

565
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Speaker 9: Victor Hovelin at Scottie Scheffler and Corey Connor share the

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Speaker 9: lead at five under par. Overall, I'm gonna have some

567
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Speaker 9: cheap coffee. Now back to you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, I Low. It's Fox Sports Saturday here

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Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what shared real fast. You dip our

571
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Speaker 5: big toe in the USC waters. What a job opening

572
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: right there to be the ad at USC. You got

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Speaker 5: the football team that's firing and all still, you've got

574
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Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley doing his thing. He is the transfer portal king.

575
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Speaker 5: I know that Elane Kiffin put it out there that

576
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Speaker 5: he's the portal king. He's the portal Prince. Lincoln Riley

577
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: is the portal King. They've got all that talent over there.

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Speaker 5: You've got Caleb Williams coming back again, who might be

579
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Speaker 5: the number one overall pick. Oh, by the way, you've

580
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Speaker 5: got Bronnie James going there to join the basketball team.

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Speaker 3: What it's opening right now with football, it's gonna be

582
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Speaker 3: and you know, we'll get into it, of course over

583
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Speaker 3: the summer as we kind of gear up for we'll

584
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: do our own two days training camp style with football

585
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: preseason and the college ranks obviously being our big focus

586
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Speaker 3: here on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be really fun.

588
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Speaker 3: I can't think of a season at USC that's been

589
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Speaker 3: more hyped than a while.

590
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Speaker 2: And I remember watching the Pac Twell Championship with you

591
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Speaker 2: in Biloxi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was not a good night for USC,

593
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Speaker 3: right But I think when you look at what the

594
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Speaker 3: Trojans are as a program right now, maybe the hype

595
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: is too because I think the player is better than

596
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Speaker 3: the team, and we can get it again. We'll have

597
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Speaker 3: plenty of time to digest that side of it. I

598
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: think the other side of it is a little upsetting,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know the landscape there in LA, like

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of our colleagues do. I saw

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Speaker 3: Doug goll It talking about it on social media yesterday,

602
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Speaker 3: and it's an eyebrow raiser with what's.

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Speaker 2: Happening in USC. I mean, anytime that type of.

604
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Speaker 3: Administrator abruptly resigns, you always scratch your head and wonder why.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of the context there, but

607
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: it's definitely an odd situation, to say the least.

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Speaker 4: You know, how about this, Let's keep it in LA

609
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Speaker 4: and keep it with the head scratching.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you switch over to the Lakers, Lebron

611
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Speaker 5: he's running out of gas over here, Jared Smith. You

612
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: could see it at the end of Game two where

613
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Speaker 5: man was he was absolutely gassed. There's no other way

614
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Speaker 5: to say it. As the Lakers lost game too, their

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Speaker 5: trailing two in this series. But how about Lebron who's

616
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Speaker 5: got an injured foot. Let's make that very clear here,

617
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: that's part of it. But the guy can't hit three pointers, Jared,

618
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Speaker 5: I don't know why he continues to take him. He

619
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Speaker 5: was OH for six on Thursday night against the Nuggets.

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Speaker 5: He's OH for ten in the series against Denver. And

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Speaker 5: if you go back to all the way to Game

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Speaker 5: two of the first round, some of these stats get doctored,

623
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Speaker 5: but it's the second game of the playoffs. You go

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Speaker 5: back to that game, Lebron in the fourth quarter, he's

625
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 5: missed nineteen consecutive three pointers. Like no other player in

626
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Speaker 5: the last twenty five postseasons has recorded a longer such streak.

627
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Speaker 5: So that tells me you're running out of gas when

628
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Speaker 5: you're not hitting threes in the fourth quarter. And that's

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Speaker 5: been a constant trend in these playoffs for Lebron. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's as smart as anybody out there on

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Speaker 5: the court. He's got to stop chucking it from deep

632
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Speaker 5: if they're not dropping and attack the rim.

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Speaker 12: That's where see it's so funny because you get these

634
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Speaker 12: two series, we'll get them back to back Miami in

635
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Speaker 12: Boston and La and Denver, and I compare Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to put him in the same stratosphere

637
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Speaker 3: as Lebron. James but in terms of the importance to

638
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: their team, I think they're both in that same stratosphere. Lebron,

639
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Speaker 3: maybe the awareness is not quite there, or maybe it's

640
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Speaker 3: the trust, because where Jimmy trust's guys to make their shots,

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Speaker 3: and Miami is a dept at that. Caleb Martin attempted

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Speaker 3: seven last night, Duncan Robinson took six, Strews five, gave

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Speaker 3: Vincent one for four, Jimmy Butler oh for one, took

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Speaker 3: one three, didn't make it. All right, let's pivot to

645
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: something else not working tonight. Like that's where I think

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Speaker 3: maybe Lebron feels because the rest of his team doesn't

647
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Speaker 3: have that same collective belief that they can overcome their opponent.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, the opponent they're facing.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to call them the big bad of

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Speaker 3: the NBA this year, but they're the deepest team in

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Speaker 3: the league, and I think they're vastly underrated. Remember they

652
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: were an underdog in the series to the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 3: That's how underrated. And you want to say Miami's underrated,

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Speaker 3: that's totally fair. Denver's really underrated, like grossly underrated. They

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00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: at home court in a series against the team that

656
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: basically had two players and nobody else, and they were

657
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: an underdog in that series. So Denver is also very underrated,

658
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: and maybe the collective belief of the Lakers to be

659
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: able to overcome that opponent is dwindling.

660
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: And Lebron has to put on the Cape.

661
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, Anthony Davis, the Cape is in

662
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: the locker room half the time in the postseason, it's

663
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: not even on the floor with them, and Lebron feels

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Speaker 3: like he has to put that cape on and be Superman,

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Speaker 3: and that's not his game anymore. And I could tell

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00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 3: you I'm not an NBA player, but I can tell

667
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: you once you get north of thirty five, the same

668
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: things that you used to do very easily don't come

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00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: as easily anymore. And I'm not gonna say I'm some

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00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: geriatric because I'm not. But when you're a professional athlete,

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00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: those little inches that you lose over the course of

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Speaker 3: a two three year stretch, when maybe you're in your

673
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: mid thirties and now you're in your late thirties, it's

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00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: noticeable when you're on an NBA floor. And I think

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Speaker 3: the Lebron era of him just taking over.

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00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: Games right is over. He needs his teammates in order

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00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: to win, and.

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Speaker 3: Right now the Lakers are not playing up to that

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00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: standard collectively as a unit.

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Speaker 5: That's just the weird thing to me is that Lebron

681
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 5: is uber aware of what's going on with him, what's

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00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: going on around him, and so it's just surprising to

683
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 5: see him chuck in threes, especially in the fourth quarter

684
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: last game, and it's like he shot three threes in

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Speaker 5: a row, missed them all, like at the end of

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00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: the third quarter, the beginning of the fourth they.

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00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Were all quick threes, like out of rhythm, like yeah,

688
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: shot clock like.

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Speaker 3: It just it doesn't make sense if you're trying to

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00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: get your teammates involved, right, it's not the right it's

691
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: not the right approach, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know what it was.

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00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: It was just he was running out of gas and

695
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 5: certainly wasn't in his rhythm and I don't know, the

696
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 5: awareness kind of lacked there in the fourth quarter. But

697
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: they are right there, they're right there with a chance

698
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: to win the game, and he just he couldn't.

699
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Be a miss dunk.

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Speaker 3: He fumbled it on his way up, like and again,

701
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: that's a that's a brain fart like, I don't think

702
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: that's a oh we got a you know, Lebron's washed.

703
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: He couldn't, you know, he mishandled the ball. But again,

704
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: when you're facing a team like the Nuggets, the Nuggets

705
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: are are a well oiled machine. They are as efficient

706
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: as a German train schedule. They have a star that

707
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: doesn't care if he scores fifty or ten points a night.

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00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: He does not care.

709
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: He'll drop forty assists if that's what the game plan calls.

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00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: He does not he won't take any shots if it's

711
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: that's what the game is. And I don't know if

712
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 3: the Lakers are about that life right now. I think

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00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: there's they they need Lebron or Ad to go off

714
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 3: for forty if they really want to have a chance

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Speaker 3: on any given night.

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Speaker 2: And I just don't see it now.

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Speaker 5: We never played in the the NBA, you know, never

718
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: in the conference finals. Most of the people listening didn't either.

719
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: But I've just put it this way. If you put

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Speaker 5: it in like normal everyday terms, if you're driving and

721
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 5: you're super tired, sometimes you make some really awful decisions,

722
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, you make tired mistakes.

723
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been there too.

724
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've been there too.

725
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: On the road from Indiana. I could make it to

726
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: the next rest stop. No, I can make it.

727
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 4: Then you're hearing the side of the.

728
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: Road start rumbling on those strips. Not good. That good.

729
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: But that's what it seemed like with Lebron.

730
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 5: That altitude is real and that dude was gassed, and

731
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Speaker 5: I thought you saw the decision making take a turn

732
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Speaker 5: for the worse.

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Speaker 3: Really, you know, that's why the Lakers have no chance

734
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: of the series, because they have to win two games

735
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Speaker 3: in Denver if they want to win it.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if they can.

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Speaker 3: Not looking good at all, especially later on the series, right,

738
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Speaker 3: That was my hypothesis going in was the Lakers needed

739
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: to get early because as the series went on, I

740
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 3: think physically they would be more drained, whereas the Nuggets

741
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: are a little bit more of a deeper team they

742
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 3: can withstand a longer series.

743
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Hey, he's Jared Smith FSR BET analyst. I'm Brian No

745
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Speaker 5: coming up next. So Mitch Trubisky, the Steelers backup quarterback.

746
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 5: He just signed a three year extension. Now here's the thing.

747
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 5: Mitch Trubisky is small potatoes in the Grand scheme of things.

748
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: Who's the most likely Trubisky from this year's NFL draft.

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Speaker 4: That's the real question. We'll dive in. It's Fox Sports

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Speaker 4: Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Welcome back in.

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00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: It's Fox Sports.

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Speaker 5: Saturday Live from the tire rack dot com studios. Mitch Trubisky,

754
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 5: Steelers backup quarterback here Jared signed a three year extension

755
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: for him.

756
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: Good for him. Yeah, I wish I was.

757
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: A backup in the NFL. I'd make so much money.

758
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 5: Jase Daniels made a nice oh yep, gosh, holding the

759
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 5: clipboard for a better part of a decade. Yeah, there

760
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 5: was a funny joke where TJ. Watt, the great edge

761
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: rusher for the Steelers, he slipped and fell into his pool,

762
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: and so someone wrote, maybe this is when he found

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00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 5: out that Mitch Trubisky signed it for your extensions.

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Speaker 4: What happened right there.

765
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Speaker 5: But here's the thing, man, in the latest draft, which

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: quarterback do you see having a Trubisky like career?

767
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Well, you think of Trubisky number two overall pick. So

769
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Speaker 5: you've got Bryce Young going number one, CJ. Stroud going

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Speaker 5: number two, Anthony Richardson number four. Certainly, in terms of

771
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: draft range. Those are legit candidates, But who doesn't live

772
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 5: up to the hype? Who is in a franchise quarterback?

773
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: Who isn't a star? Which of those three D see

774
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 5: being the most likely candidate.

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00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: It's tough because I might I'm in danger of turning

776
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: myself into a hot, cold, freezing cal takes promotion here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I get this fun right, this guy's gonna

778
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: be awful in the NFL. And then this player pro

779
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: bowler in his rookie season.

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Speaker 3: I think I know where you're going here, and I

781
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: think it's based off of what we've talked about a

782
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: lot with the talent around C. J. Stroud at Houston

783
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: and Houston. I want to say Anthony Richardson, I really do,

784
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 3: but if I'm wrong, I will be plastered on every

785
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 3: bad tape message board ever created in the.

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Speaker 2: History of the Internet.

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Speaker 3: But I do believe that Anthony Richardson reminds me a

788
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: lot of Drew Bisky right in their game. It's a

789
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: little more mobility, a little less finesse. It's a little right,

790
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: it's a little more it's a little more power and

791
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: not as much, you know, precision, And I think that's

792
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 3: where in the NFL. I don't want to say Trubisky

793
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: is a guy that just fires the ball and runs

794
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: really fast and can't read the defense. But in the NFL,

795
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: I do prefer what Bryce Young has between the ears

796
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: than maybe the other guys in the draft.

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Speaker 2: But physically, I don't know if Bryce Young will be

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Speaker 2: able to hold up. Yeah, especially after I watch that

799
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: video of him behind his offensive line looking like a

800
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Speaker 2: kindergartener out there.

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Speaker 3: It's truly remarkable the physical difference between Bryce and the

802
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: rest of this quarterback class. But I guess I'm beating

803
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Speaker 3: around the bush. If I had to give you one answer,

804
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Speaker 3: I think I would say Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: That's where I would go.

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Speaker 2: Also, Okay, wow, that surprised me because I know, even

807
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: really critical of C. J. Strout.

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Speaker 5: I'm yeah, I'm skeptical of both. But with Richardson, man,

809
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 5: it's the lack of college experience. When you throw fewer

810
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: than four hundred passes in college and you're trying to

811
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Speaker 5: learn on the fly in.

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Speaker 2: The NFL fifty three percent, I know that looks that

813
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: it rarely goes up in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: He's got the tools, there's no doubt about that, But

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00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 5: he was inconsistent at Florida, Like, just think about that first.

816
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: An offensive minded head coach too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not going to sit here and say no

818
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: chance know how that would be crazy. But the most

819
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 5: likely candidate I think it is Anthony Richardson because you

820
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 5: said it. He's gonna have some wow moments. He's gonna

821
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Speaker 5: do some things where you're like, I don't know who

822
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Speaker 5: else on the planet can do what he just did,

823
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Speaker 5: but you gotta be precise as an NFL quarterback, and

824
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Speaker 5: I just don't know that we're gonna get there with Richardson.

825
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Speaker 5: I'm skeptical of Stroud because he doesn't have five first

826
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Speaker 5: round wide receivers around him. But over the year of town, right,

827
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Speaker 5: that matters a little bit, right, Oh, it matters a

828
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Speaker 5: ton jacks to make it upright, come it up next?

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Speaker 5: When poking the bear goes wrong, and also when it

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Speaker 5: goes right.

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Speaker 4: Oh what's going on? Everybody? Good morning to you.

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Speaker 5: Hope your Saturday is off to a tremendous start. When

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Speaker 5: buying should be. So Jared Smith last night the uh

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Speaker 5: Grant Williams Jimmy Butler altercation.

841
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 4: I love that the altercation.

842
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: They go where to each other violently for feen seconds

843
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: and then nothing happened. It was and even Jimmy after

844
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: the game was like, hey, I loved it.

845
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: It was great.

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: It was awesome. It was great theater. It did not

847
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 5: work out for the Celtics, but man, I love that.

848
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: I had flashbacks to this is a long time ago,

849
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: but remember when Michael Jordan did that to Xavier McDaniel

850
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 5: and that they went forehead to forehead and Jordans stood

851
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 5: up to the bully and this was a great moment.

852
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 4: But that's the way the playoffs used to be. I

853
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 4: love all of that stuff.

854
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 5: So just taking a step back from it significantly backfired

855
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 5: for Grant Williams and the Celtics. But just as a

856
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: basketball fan, the still shots are amazing of Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 2: Just happen.

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00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: Ye I joked, I did a meme where it was

859
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: Jimmy was your the last leg of the parlay, and

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00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 3: you know it always gets you, The last leg always

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00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: gets you, Right.

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00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Grant Williams was your harlay and Jimmy Butler was the

863
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: last leg. It's like that last leg, man, it's tough

864
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 2: to get over that last leg.

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Speaker 5: Remind me to circle back to that a little bit later. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I've got some doozies for you, the last.

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Speaker 2: It's always the last leg. Brian, it's away the last flag.

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00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, I feel like Jimmy Butler yelling at the

869
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 5: last leg of that parlay the last few nights. But

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Speaker 5: how about this, when poking the bear goes wrong, you know,

871
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: expand it beyond just last night backfired for Grant Williams,

872
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 5: I got well says it backfired for right. A couple

873
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 5: of names on my list obviously these playoffs. Dylan Brooks, Oh, yeah,

874
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 5: that's right. That's as obvious as it gets. Like, who cares,

875
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: he's old talking about Lebron and then they lose the

876
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 5: closeout game by forty points.

877
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: That did not work out. You'd have to throw out

878
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: Lance Stevenson.

879
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: That's one that was on my list too. Yeah, when

880
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: he was blowing in Lebron's ear. Yeah, didn't work out.

881
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: That was a good one. Didn't work out. That's another

882
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: all time meme right there.

883
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 5: You know what also just struck me is when you

884
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 5: pull out your trash talking, you know, ace in the

885
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 5: hole and the other guy just laughs at you. That's

886
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: that's an ego shot right there. Because Grant Williams hid

887
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 5: an open three, Jared, it was an open three and

888
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 5: started trash talking Jimmy Butler.

889
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: Jimmy just starts laughing.

890
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 5: And it was the same thing when Lance Stevenson was

891
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 5: blowing in Lebron's ear. There's the classic, like super tight

892
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 5: shot of Lebron.

893
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: It was an ill. Yeah, it was an eye roll.

894
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: It was like this guy again, come on. And Lance

895
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: was known for that.

896
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: So when I saw this this morning, I tried to

897
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: look up some other ones because there's so many good

898
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: ones that we forget, and this is one that I

899
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: had forgotten about. And now when you come back to

900
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: it and circle back to it now, it's so much better.

901
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: In the Super Bowl a few years ago, many years ago,

902
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: between the Eagles and the Patriots, this was not the

903
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: Nick Foles game. This was the Donovan McNabb years back

904
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands. Maybe it was the two

905
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: thousand and five ish, I don't forget the exact year.

906
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: Freddie Mitchell before the game, oh yeah, said he didn't

907
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: even know the names of the Patriots secondary oh.

908
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: Man, and he had one catch. Obviously. The Patriots won

909
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: the game, minitary, last second field goal.

910
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: Great game, And that was one that really stood out

911
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: because it it's like the it's like the bulletin board material,

912
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: talking directly to the personnel grouping you are going to

913
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 3: be facing in the game.

914
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Like it'd be one thing if he said, yeah that

915
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, nobody knows who he is.

916
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: He was directly calling out the secondary of the team

917
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: that he was facing.

918
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: That is a no no to me.

919
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big no no.

920
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 5: One of my other favorite ones, it's a really a

921
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: no name guy was Anthony Smith. He's a safety for

922
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: the Steelers and he just wasn't impressed with the Patriots

923
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 5: being undefeated. Yep, and he let it be and the

924
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: Patriots won by three touchdowns. And there's the famous that

925
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 5: was a guarantee I think game. That was a guarantee game, right.

926
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, you know it didn't work.

927
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 7: Out.

928
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 5: And then there was Tom Brady trash talking Anthony Smith

929
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 5: after the Patriots scored a touchdown and he's given him

930
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: the business in the end zone.

931
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: That did not land well. So here here's one that

932
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: went right.

933
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 2: Every time Floyd Mayweather's ever talked trash to anyone before

934
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: a fight.

935
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah that and again I don't I haven't seen a

936
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: lot of instances, at least I can't recall any off

937
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: the top of my head where it was a pregame

938
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: trash talk and then that guy delivered, like delivered a

939
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 3: lot of the Like. I looked up a couple of

940
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: the Mike Tyson trash talks before fights.

941
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: Those went pretty well.

942
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: A lot of it was boxing related because again you're

943
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: talking directly to your opponent, so maybe it doesn't hold

944
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: the same weight like the Freddie Mitchell stuff when you're

945
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: talking to a full team and that team just completely

946
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: shuts you down. But a lot of the Floyd Mayweather

947
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson stuff I found was was pretty six ccessful.

948
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: Like those guys had pretty good track records of talking

949
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: smack and then.

950
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: Backing it up.

951
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 4: Yeah you could.

952
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 5: Uh, there are a couple of fight game ones where

953
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: this is one of my favorites. Remember Antonio tarvor Oh, yeah,

954
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 5: talking smack to Roy Jones Junior.

955
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: This was beautiful. Right before the fight. They're in the ring.

956
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: They're in the right before the fight. That's how it sounded.

957
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: I got a question, you got an excuse to night.

958
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: That's not ask questions like that. Let's go to work.

959
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: They're touching gloves, right, I think, like I wish, and

960
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 3: there's a big boxing match tonight here in Vegas.

961
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

962
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: I missed the days when even Floyd Mayweather, which you

963
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 3: know we're not that far removed from those days, right,

964
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: But the the Lennox Lewis Tyson fights, the one that

965
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: came to mind where he Tyson just completely trashed them.

966
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: But a lot of those fights, the preamble is.

967
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: Just a man, it is.

968
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: It's depending on which fighters, because some fighters it's almost

969
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 5: like pro wrestling in a way. Some guys are like

970
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 5: the Rock on the mic, and other guys give you

971
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 5: next to nothing. Yeah, but man, those entertainers who are

972
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 5: superstars and they are just I'll tell you what. Connor

973
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: McGregor was outstanding. He didn't back it up against Floyd Mayweather,

974
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 5: but everything leading up to that fight was top.

975
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: Shelf I've said, I think I've said this on the show.

976
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 3: That was the largest wager that I've ever made in

977
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: my entire life. It was a five thousand dollars I

978
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: don't know, five thousand dollars a lot of money some people.

979
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: For me, it was a lot of money, especially at

980
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: the time that I made it. It was like ten

981
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: years ago. There was a lot of money. That was

982
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 3: the biggest bet I've ever made in my life. Was

983
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: Floyd Madweather to be Connor McGregor and would you have been?

984
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: On their four dollar favorite? But I was like, yeah,

985
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: there's no way that a box, no way to a

986
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: sea fighter.

987
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: Would you have been?

988
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: Would you have been like cardboard box? If that didn't

989
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: work out, Yeah.

990
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: Let's just leave it at this.

991
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: I was still in the stage of my life where

992
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: I was making no money living in New York. It

993
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: would have been a struggle the next month. Yeah, that

994
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: next month would have been I might have had to

995
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 3: call my mom.

996
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: Man, not good. Can you me a little Vemo didn't

997
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: even probably exist back then.

998
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I put it all on Mayweather. Can you help.

999
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 2: You put it all on it? Who? Yeah? She doesn't

1000
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: even know that guy.

1001
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, just trust me. It seemed like it made sense.

1002
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: It didn't work out, I don't, I don't know, but

1003
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 5: uh yeah, a couple others on my list. When it

1004
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 5: does work out, when you poke the bear and it

1005
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 5: works out. A lot of boxing related right is Mohammad Ali.

1006
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: Probably the most famous was when he was talking smack

1007
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 5: to George Foreman, who was like the baddest man on

1008
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 5: the planet. Yeah, and that worked out. Football related, how

1009
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 5: about Joe Namath and the guarantee? Yeah, you go hockey,

1010
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 5: you throw a little hockey in there for you.

1011
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1012
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: So I just think it's important to do that list

1013
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 5: because the day after it blows up in Grant William's face. Yeah,

1014
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: he trash talks. Jimmy Butler doesn't work out. Sometimes it's like,

1015
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 5: why would you poke the bear? There are so many

1016
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 5: instances in sports where guys poked the bear and it

1017
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 5: worked out. You just got to back it up.

1018
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: That's a lot of times too.

1019
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: And I again I'm curious rich Rich's thoughts here because

1020
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 3: he would be able to give us that between the

1021
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: lines angle. But a lot of times when these players

1022
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: go after other players or teams, they're doing it to

1023
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: pump up themselves. It's more of a reflection of what

1024
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: they need in order to get up for certain games

1025
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: than it is trying to tear others down, Like I

1026
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: think if you asked Grant Williams to a man like yeah,

1027
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: like I respect Jimmy Butler a lot, like I wasn't

1028
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 3: trying to get him riled up.

1029
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: I was just trying to rile myself up.

1030
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: And it just kind of boiled over into this moment

1031
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: that obviously is going to be remembered and talked about

1032
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: and you know, reviled if you're a Boston fan for

1033
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: a long time. But I think a lot has to

1034
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: do with inner Hey, I need this in order to

1035
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: get to that next level. Unfortunately, that that means I'm

1036
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 3: gonna probably upset a lot of people around me and

1037
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: make them upset with me, and maybe it upsets my

1038
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: teammates too, But that's what I need in order to

1039
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 3: get up for these games. And I again, each person's individual.

1040
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 3: Each person has their own quirks in their own ways

1041
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: that their brain works. But I'm assuming that a lot

1042
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: of the trash talk that we hear on a daily

1043
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: basis is just guys getting themselves ready. It has nothing

1044
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: to do with how they feel about that particular person

1045
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: or team. It's just their their process. Well, I think

1046
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: a couple of things. I think it's like the old

1047
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle skit when Keeping It Real goes.

1048
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 2: It's really git, we need akeeper back to Chappelle show, Please.

1049
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: Dave was amazing. I think it was only two seasons,

1050
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: some of the best two seasons.

1051
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 5: I think it's a quick but you know, it's like

1052
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 5: the Terrell Davis of the comedy world, Davis great running back,

1053
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer, four seasons with the Broncos, that's what

1054
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: gave us. But also, you know, it really does go

1055
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 5: against your DNA as an athlete, especially a professional athlete,

1056
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 5: to really have the restraint, like you're thinking, I'm a competitor,

1057
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 5: I'm going after anybody. He was just toe to toe.

1058
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 5: Grant Williams was with Joel Embiid. Remember last series when

1059
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: Joelle accidentally stepped on his head. Yeah, and he was

1060
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 5: miked up and he's like, oh, good brother, no problem,

1061
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 5: we're battling here. It's the playoffs, you know, like he's

1062
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 5: wired that way. So it does go against your you know,

1063
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 5: kind of like mental makeup to check yourself and be like,

1064
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 5: oh but that's Jimmy Butler. Like I shouldn't say anything

1065
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 5: to Jimmy Butler, you know what I mean, Like you

1066
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 5: don't really have that switch of this isn't a good idea.

1067
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: You're just like, screw it. I'll talk trash whoever. Like,

1068
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's typically how you're wired.

1069
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 2: It's true.

1070
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: I think there's there's so many instances in games where

1071
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: and the NBA is I think an interesting case study

1072
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 3: in this because of the volume of points that are scored, right,

1073
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: Like we say this all the time, cliche like it's

1074
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: a game of runs, and it's interesting to try to

1075
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: peg the moments throughout the course of the game.

1076
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: And we do this with live betting all the time.

1077
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 3: Like the people who are the best at this are

1078
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 3: very successful betting live because they can watch a game.

1079
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: They can key in on little moments that sometimes even

1080
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: the announcers don't pick up on, but little changes in

1081
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 3: body language and ways that the game is being either

1082
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 3: officiated or the way that the pacing is and those

1083
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: moments when the momentum flips. You can become an insanely

1084
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: profitable gambler if you can just peg two or three

1085
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 3: moments throughout the course of a forty eight minute NBA game,

1086
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 3: when the momentum switches on a dime and it happens

1087
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, if you can find those moments, you

1088
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: can just rake in the cash because you can get

1089
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: one team at a plus price and then you get

1090
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: the other team at a plus price.

1091
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: You have a chance to win both bets.

1092
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 3: And you're sitting back eating your popcorn o your cigar,

1093
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: just enjoying life, thinking, yeah, I'm gonna win no matter

1094
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: what happens in the end of this game.

1095
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: But that was obviously a moment where if you were

1096
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: keen watching the game, and I saw a coupleople on

1097
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: social media posted some of my gambling friends. They said, yeah,

1098
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: this is the time the heater.

1099
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: I think there were five or six to one on

1100
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: the live line to win the game at that moment

1101
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: when the Jimmy Butler Grant Williams altercation happened, And that was.

1102
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: One of those spots where you could just kind of

1103
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: see the tide turn. Yeah, and if you got in

1104
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: on it, feeling pretty good about yourself this morning.

1105
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: Very nice.

1106
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's funny too, because sometimes you notice it

1107
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 5: in the moment. Sometimes it's after the fact, Yeah, where

1108
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: you might be watching this and thinking, Grant Williams, why

1109
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: would you do that?

1110
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: Man?

1111
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: You just hit an open three while trash talk Jimmy Butler,

1112
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 5: and Jimmy Butler goes right down to the other end

1113
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 5: of the floor hits a shot on Grant Williams and

1114
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 5: one and their forehead to forehead, and you might get

1115
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 5: caught up in just the entertainment value you and it's like,

1116
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 5: you don't take it to that next step of this

1117
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 5: is where I pounce on an in game line, Like

1118
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: it really does take a lot of discipline and a

1119
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 5: lot of I don't know, experience, But Miami went on

1120
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 5: a twenty four to nine run after that Jimmy Grant

1121
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: Williams altercation right there. Twenty four to nine, Jared, And

1122
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 5: think about this. Another mind blowing stat here going forward.

1123
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 5: Sports Center put this out on Instagram. The chances of

1124
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 5: advancing to the NBA Finals after Game two Okay, via

1125
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 5: ESPN Analytics Celtic sixty five percent heat thirty five percent chance.

1126
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: How in the world is that the case?

1127
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: It's not those analytics and the four Letter Network has

1128
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: drives me nuts for many reasons, but their analytics department

1129
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: would be the worst book maker, and they like, please

1130
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 3: open up a sports book ESPN and start hanging those numbers,

1131
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: because every percentage is and odds, you know, it translates

1132
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: to odds. That would be basically like putting Boston still

1133
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 3: as a minus two hundred favorite to win the series.

1134
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 4: That's insane, that's absurd.

1135
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: It makes no by the way, if I can actually

1136
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 3: like the actual price for the series is like Miami

1137
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: minus two hundred, right, so the odds makers think the

1138
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: opposite of that percentage, like completely flip.

1139
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 5: It, like completely flip that, right. I did see one

1140
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: of your tweets the Heat have Alligator Blood.

1141
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean well, it's one of my favorite

1142
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 2: movies of all.

1143
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: Time, an outstanding movie, right the reund.

1144
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: And I got the best part is And sometimes I

1145
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: get good responses on social media.

1146
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: Sometimes I don't.

1147
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: Half the time, I tweet stuff just to get interaction

1148
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 3: because you know, it's where it's the engagement business that

1149
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: we're in. But the Teddy KGB quotes that I got

1150
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 3: after I tweeted that were just the best. There's so

1151
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 3: many from that, there's literally a million, Like we quoted

1152
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 3: that movie because I played poker growing up I was

1153
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: in high school in two thousand and three during the

1154
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: Chris Moneymaker, you know, World Series of Poker Win, and

1155
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: that was like when Texas Holden became so popular in

1156
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: our country. It was just that movie was on great

1157
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: the subtle ones I love too, And I don't think

1158
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: there's a bad line in it. It was just little

1159
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: ones where he's like he beats me. He'd be like

1160
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: little stuff like I quote all the time.

1161
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I should start saying that when my same game

1162
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 5: parlays don't work out. You know, Lebron's a couple of

1163
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 5: points short, he beats me. You know, throw that out there.

1164
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: All right, We've got Jared Smith Monster. Yeah, that's another

1165
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 5: one that I really like. Yeah, should have paid me off.

1166
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian no No Rich

1167
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 5: Orenberger today the Penn State All American. He'll be back

1168
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 5: with us next week coming up next. When one team

1169
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 5: gets all the love, it can help out the other team.

1170
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 5: A lot details on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday.

1171
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 5: Right here on Fox Sports Radio. It's Fox Sports Saturday. Hey,

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Speaker 5: Denver Nuggets head coach, he made some interesting comments after

1178
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: Denver one Game two, so up to nothing in the series,

1179
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 5: and he was talking about not being in the limelight exactly.

1180
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 4: Here's what Malone had to say.

1181
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 13: Whatever we can use for motivation. I think a lot

1182
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,479
Speaker 13: of our guys, to be honest, they may not admit

1183
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 13: this or not. You know, you win game one of

1184
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 13: the playoffs and all everybody talked about was a Lakers

1185
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 13: Let's be honest. That was a national narrative was, Hey,

1186
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 13: the Lakers are fined or down one. Oh, but they

1187
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 13: figured something out. No one talked about Nicole ha just

1188
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 13: had a historic performance. He's got thirteen Chipple doubles, no

1189
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 13: third all time. What he's doing is just incredible. But

1190
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 13: the narrative wasn't about the Nuggets. The narrative wasn't about Nicola.

1191
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 13: The narrative is about the Lakers and their adjustments. So

1192
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 13: you know, you put that in your pipe you smoke

1193
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 13: it and you come back and you know what, we're

1194
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 13: gonna go up too.

1195
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 5: Oh it's interesting right where I like this card that

1196
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 5: he's playing, which is it's in the locker room. Right,

1197
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 5: It's like, hey guys, we're being overlooked. Hey guys, we're

1198
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 5: not getting our respect. When you're fighting not just to

1199
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 5: win a title, but you're fighting for respect. That matters,

1200
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 5: That absolutely matters.

1201
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: And he's right.

1202
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 5: It was all about the Lakers, you would say, and

1203
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 5: Jokic was fantastic, but and then it was all about.

1204
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: Purple and gold. Purple and gold, purple and gold.

1205
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 5: Those are the real Like Lebron's name, just name recognition

1206
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 5: is far superior than Nicola Jokic.

1207
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: It just is based on the resumes.

1208
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: But Malone's right, And I like this tactic because if

1209
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 5: you're selling that to a team, you try to create

1210
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 5: this under narrative sometimes when it's not even true. Remember

1211
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 5: when Alabama did that they're gonna play Cincinnati, oh man,

1212
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 5: and the guy the king of that, yeah, he's at it.

1213
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 5: You try to create this. It's a real thing with Denver.

1214
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 5: So I think it makes all the sense in the

1215
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 5: world to attack.

1216
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: It that way.

1217
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: I and The best coaches are the ones that know

1218
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: how to push buttons, and not in a bad way

1219
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: like Grant Williams tried to push buttons last night and

1220
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 3: he pushed the wrong buttons.

1221
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1222
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: The best coaches understand their team's mental state better than physical.

1223
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: Let the trainers worry about if this guy's physically ready

1224
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: to play. The best coaches are the ones that can

1225
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: diagnose their team and know exactly what buttons need to

1226
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 3: be pushed. Sometimes it needs to be tough, love angry,

1227
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: get under their skin a little bit. Sometimes it needs

1228
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 3: to be softer, it needs to be more or finesse approach.

1229
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: The best coaches and I would put Malone in that

1230
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: category that definitely this season understand the vibes and the

1231
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: aura of their team and what it takes to elevate

1232
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: to the next level. And I think if I can

1233
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: translate what coach Malone is trying to say, here, stop

1234
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: sleeping on Nikola Jokic.

1235
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Speaker 2: People. Yeah, and we have Let's be honest, we have.

1236
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: The guy is the two time you can make an

1237
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: argument should have been third time defending MVP. And we

1238
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: are just kind of floating through this postseason waiting for

1239
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 3: another team to say, yeah, they've got more star power

1240
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: than Denver. Denver is a nice team, but they're not

1241
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: flashy or sexy, and I don't think that's gonna happen, guys.

1242
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a Denver. How about this

1243
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: for an NBA Finals Nuggets Heat? Wow, the two most undescript,

1244
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 3: least flashy teams in the league. They get it done

1245
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 3: with grit, determination and not a lot of star power.

1246
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: And I'm ready to change. I talked about this yesterday

1247
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 3: and a bunch of shows. I'm ready to remove the

1248
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: really good player, not a star moniker from Jamal Murray.

1249
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Speaker 2: This dude's a star. Like he's a star. He is

1250
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 2: taking over games in the fourth quarter. He is a star.

1251
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: And the other guy, who I think is kind of

1252
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: the I don't want to say, he's the robins of

1253
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray's batman in this series, he just doesn't care

1254
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: about stats or how he looks or how he sounds.

1255
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: He's just let's go out there and win a game

1256
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: like it's It really is a modern day upset because

1257
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 3: most teams are so star driven and the Nuggets and

1258
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: the Heat are just cranking out team wins left and right.

1259
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Jamal Murray with only three points just in

1260
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter alone. He's the anti Tata bar right

1261
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: like Jason Tatum needs to be more like Jamal Murray

1262
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. Is Tatum hasn't hit a bucket

1263
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter in back to back game?

1264
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: Mind boggling, Brian, that's insane.

1265
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 5: And Jamal just gave you twenty three and one of

1266
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 5: the fourth quarters last game for the Nuggets. These are

1267
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 5: a couple of mind blowing stats with Jokic and how

1268
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 5: he hasn't gotten the recognition that he deserves even in

1269
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 5: these first two games against the Lakers.

1270
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Speaker 4: So he joins this guy named Wilt Chamberlain.

1271
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of him.

1272
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 5: It's Jokicic and Chamberlain who are the only players in

1273
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 5: NBA history to record at least twenty points, fifteen rebounds,

1274
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: and ten assists in back to back playoff games.

1275
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Speaker 4: That's it.

1276
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 5: It's Joker and Wilt and the other stat and this

1277
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 5: is Jokic all by himself. No NBA player besides Jokic

1278
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 5: in a two game span has recorded at least fifty

1279
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 5: five points, thirty five rebounds, and twenty five assists.

1280
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 4: That's over a two game playoff span.

1281
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 5: And Jokic in these two games fifty seven points, thirty

1282
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 5: eight rebounds, twenty six assists. Wow, in two games. And

1283
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 5: it's almost like he's not even front page news. Really no, right,

1284
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: like you don't talk about him initially. It's insane to me.

1285
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 3: And they play in a market that's not gonna get

1286
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: a lot of love, right, Like, it's not again, it's not.

1287
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: There's nothing flashy about Denver. It's a fun town. I've

1288
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 3: been there, fantastic town, but it's not the biggest media market.

1289
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: It hasn't had a ton of success, with the exception

1290
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 3: of that little John La stint in the late nineties, right,

1291
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 3: And it's a very I guess actually, Colorado's won the

1292
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: Stanley Cup last year, so.

1293
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: Denver, listen, we're sleeping on Denver here. I guess Denver's

1294
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: about to go back to back.

1295
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 3: Colorado in the Stanley Cup last year and now the

1296
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets in the NBA Finals this year. And prior

1297
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 3: to that, of course, Colorado won the Cup in the

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Speaker 3: mid nineties. But I think it's fair to say Denver

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01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 3: as a whole, as a media market is it's in

1300
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: the Mountain time zone. It's just it's such a it's

1301
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: such a unique media market, I guess, but man, we

1302
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: we are sleeping on this team.

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you what he said?

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01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 5: That what he said, Jared, Where the national narrative is

1305
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 5: that it's all about the Lakers. The funny thing is,

1306
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 5: like a few years ago, I used to host a

1307
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 5: lot of fill in shows in Denver. The local media

1308
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 5: doesn't give the Nuggets a lot of attention to respect,

1309
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 5: It's all Broncos, Broncos, Broncos, Broncos. I'm sure they're talking

1310
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 5: a little bit more about it right now, but typically

1311
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: they get completely lost in this shuffle. They're hardly talked

1312
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 5: about it also in their own town.

1313
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: And I've never lived in Denver, so I don't have

1314
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: the same context that I can give you in New York.

1315
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 3: And New York's obviously such a different sports town, but

1316
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: there are certain teams in New York that even when

1317
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: they are winning, nobody cares, yeah like it. New York

1318
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: is a Yankees town, it's a Giants town. When the

1319
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: Mets and the Jets are having success, they need to

1320
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: have more success than you normally would in a town

1321
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 3: with two teams. And I know Denver doesn't have two teams,

1322
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: but it gives me these vibes of you see these

1323
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 3: teams kind of float through the postseason and then now

1324
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: at the end of the rainbow. I think we're gonna

1325
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: hear a lot more about Denver, obviously because we should.

1326
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: We should have been hearing about them all season. But

1327
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they've had the best net rating in the playoffs,

1328
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 3: right they just they're they're deep, they're talented. I wish

1329
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 3: that we had a different societal view of certain teams

1330
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: because they're not as sexy as others.

1331
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think that jokicch is like the Jets

1332
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 5: and the Mets, you know what I mean. For him

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 5: to get the talk, he's got to do more than

1334
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 5: a typical star would need to do, because, like, let's

1335
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 5: put it this way, if Lebron the last two games

1336
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 5: gave you fifty seven points, thirty eight boards, and twenty

1337
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: six assists.

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: We'd be talking about MVP.

1339
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: And I get it, it's gonna look different.

1340
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 5: Lebron's gonna do it with more style and it's gonna

1341
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 5: be more highlight driven, and yeah, that has an impact,

1342
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 5: but it's not like Jokics doesn't have that. The buzzer

1343
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 5: beating three over Anthony Davis. It's like he's had moments

1344
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 5: where you're like.

1345
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 3: Wow, two stars on their team, and you know, I

1346
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: know the Lakers do too, but the Lakers stars are

1347
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 3: not playing as well as the Nuggets stars. Like the

1348
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 3: Nuggets have two guys that maybe when it's all said

1349
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: and done, like let's fast forward. Let's say the Nuggets

1350
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 3: win the NBA Finals this year and it's Jokics winning

1351
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 3: the MVP of the Finals the year that he didn't

1352
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: win the MVP of the regular season, which would be

1353
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 3: very ironic, I think, because he didn't even make it

1354
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: to the finals the two years.

1355
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 2: That he won MVP.

1356
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: And now you get I don't want to say controversy,

1357
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: but there's obviously been some some talk post regular season

1358
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 3: that yeah, you know Mark Jackson left him off the ballot.

1359
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: That was a mistake, right.

1360
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: I think this might have been the first year I

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 3: can I can recall where a voter came out after

1362
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 3: the voting it was like, yeah, I messed this one up.

1363
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 4: What never happens.

1364
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 2: These guys are always like no, I got it right,

1365
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: Come on this man, and he royally messed that up.

1366
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: He Wow, so hot that even got to take your

1367
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: vote away.

1368
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 4: I think, right, yeah, voting privilege is what it was like.

1369
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 4: He didn't have him in the MVY, not even in

1370
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 4: the ballot. Unbelievable.

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that just came. And Mark Jackson is

1372
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: a smart guy. He is very he's basketball guy. He

1373
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: understands the little things.

1374
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: Mark Jackson was one of my favorite players to watch

1375
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 3: when he came to the next because he was kind

1376
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 3: of a heart and soul kind of guy. You would

1377
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 3: think a guy like that would be able to understand

1378
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 3: what Nikolaykic brings to the tape. I don't want to

1379
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 3: make this a referendum on Mark Jackson, but the point

1380
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: is that I think I think the way that Nikola

1381
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: Jokic plays basketball, even the great basketball minds, yeah don't

1382
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: appreciate it.

1383
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: Fine, I know it.

1384
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 5: Sometimes he gets lost in the shuffle in their minds.

1385
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 5: It's wild like that. Someone who never gets lost in

1386
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 5: the shuffle, not on this show.

1387
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 4: And not in life. That would be Isaac Low and

1388
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 4: c With the latest.

1389
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 9: And inspired by your discussion about Denver's perception of the

1390
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 9: various sports, I decided to peruse the headlines of the

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01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 9: Denver Post. They are as follows, Broncos unveil field level

1392
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 9: premium club as part of Empowered. Broncos announced dates times

1393
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 9: for preseason games. Broncos agreed a ten year partnership with

1394
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 9: Centaura Health and hang on here scrolling down local hoopsters

1395
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 9: playing well, it tells you all you need to do.

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 2: Awesome plays the AAU team.

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01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 9: Right, yeah, they played a pretty big arena for an

1398
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 9: AAU tea.

1399
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: But oh well.

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 9: Game two of the Eastern Conference Finals on Friday night

1401
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 9: Fellas saw the Miami Heat rally for a what eleven

1402
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 9: one five victory at Boston for two games to non lead.

1403
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 9: The Celtics led this game by twelve with ten eighteen

1404
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 9: left in the fourth quarter, but Miami outscored him the

1405
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 9: rest of the way through already four to sixteen. Jimmy

1406
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 9: Butler twenty seven points, bam Ata Bio twenty two points,

1407
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 9: seventeen rebounds and nine assists. Caleb Martin scored it twenty

1408
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 9: five off the bench. And in case people listening out

1409
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 9: there missed it earlier, here is what Butler had to

1410
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 9: say afterwards about his already infamous trash talking exchange with

1411
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 9: Boston's Dylan Brooks Up. Sorry, guys, I pronounced that wrong.

1412
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 9: Let me try that again. Boston's Grant Williams, that's just competition.

1413
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 10: That his finest he hit a big shot started talking

1414
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 10: to me.

1415
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 7: I like that.

1416
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 10: I'm all for that. It makes me keen a lot

1417
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 10: more and it pushes that will that I have to

1418
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 10: win a lot more, and it makes me smile. It

1419
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 10: does when people talk to me. I'm like, Okay, I

1420
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 10: know I'm a decent player if you want to talk

1421
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 10: to me, out of everybody that you can talk to.

1422
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 10: It's just competition. I do respect him though. He's a

1424
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 10: big part of what they try to do. He switches,

1425
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 10: he can shoot the ball. I just don't know if

1426
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 10: I'm the best person to talk to.

1427
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 9: In Game one of the NHL's Western Conference Finals Friday night,

1428
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 9: the Vegas Golden Knights defeated the Dallas Stars in overtime

1429
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 9: at a goal by Brett Howden just one thirty five

1430
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 9: into ot. Going into the third round of the PGA Championship,

1431
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 9: Victor Hovelin, Scottie Scheffler, and Corey Conners share the lead

1432
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 9: at five under par overall. USC athletic director Mike Bone

1433
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 9: abruptly resigned on Friday, one day after The La Times

1434
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 9: asked him and usc about internal criticism of his management

1435
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 9: and behavior that included Bone allegedly making inappropriate remarks about

1436
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 9: the physical appearance of female colleagues. Bone, by the way,

1437
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 9: has since deleted his Twitter account. Apparently life comes at

1438
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 9: you fast, fellas back to you.

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, real fast, Thank you, Ilo. It's Fox Sports

1440
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 5: Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. You know you mentioned

1441
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 5: at the beginning of this hour Jared Jimmy Butler as

1442
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 5: if he was yelling at the final leg of his

1443
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 5: part that didn't hit you know what he was going

1444
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 5: forehead to forehead with Grant Williams right there.

1445
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 4: You know, I would just like to vent here for

1446
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 4: the safe space.

1447
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: That's what we do here.

1448
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 5: So like you, as a gambler, you'll appreciate this. You know,

1449
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 5: sometimes the same game parlays, they provide cash, they provide

1450
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 5: good sweats, every now and then they provide bad sweats

1451
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 5: and taking your cash. So this is just the last

1452
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 5: three days of what I've been working with Jared. Okay,

1453
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 5: if you go back to Game one of the Heat

1454
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 5: Celtics series, here's what I needed. I needed bam out

1455
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 5: of bio over six and a half rebounds, no problem.

1456
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 5: And I just needed the Celtics under one fifteen and

1457
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 5: a half and they ended with the garbage bucket and

1458
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 5: one sixteen is what happened.

1459
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: Did not work out.

1460
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 5: All, let's regroup, let's get it back. We got gamed

1461
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 5: two the next night Lakers Nuggets. I just need yo

1462
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 5: kitch over twelve and a half rebounds, no problem. Need

1463
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 5: Jamal Murray with six points in the first quarter, easy

1464
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,879
Speaker 5: need lebron over twenty three and a half points.

1465
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ended on twenty two and that inclemented.

1466
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 2: Did he miss that night?

1467
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 4: Miss six of them?

1468
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 5: He was one of the three point ranging there you go.

1469
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 5: Missed the layup in the final minute. Also missed.

1470
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 4: This on ESPN from Mike Breen James Up.

1472
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh wait wait, if you hadn't over the game, that

1473
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: from him over this game? Yeah, I agree. So that

1474
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 2: dunk that he flubbed would.

1475
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 4: Have yeah, would have got me there.

1476
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Oh right, So the.

1477
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: Tweeted out when that happened. I said, if the Lakers

1478
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: lose this game by a bucket, and they didn't. They

1479
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 3: lost it by two, two and a half buckets. But

1480
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: obviously your point proper is a bucket.

1481
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I'm s yeah, I just needed twenty four

1482
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 5: points twenty two rough right there, and then last night Jared,

1483
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, Jimmy Butler, this dude is freaking nails.

1484
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 5: Here's what I'm gonna go with. It's a bit of

1485
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 5: a long shot, but it's certainly possible. I'm gonna go

1486
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 5: with Jimmy Butler. Twenty five points, seven rebounds, seven assists. Okay,

1487
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 5: so on points we get there, twenty seven on rebounds,

1488
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 5: we get there, eight assists six, just just want assist away.

1489
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: Well, here's here's the advice that I'll give and listen,

1490
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: I know, gambling advice. No one wants to hear gambling

1491
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 3: advice after they've lost a bat. It's like, yeah, I

1492
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 3: don't want to hear that. Yeah yeah, It's like the

1493
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: last thing you want to hear is what you should

1494
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 3: have done after you only needed Lebron James not to

1495
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: fumble away an easy, wide open dunk like he's Bart

1496
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 3: Simpson with the butterfinger bar. Parlays are bad guys, because

1497
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 3: what Brian is telling me here is that if he

1498
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: would have just bet all of these individually, you would

1499
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 3: have been what like seven and three.

1500
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 4: Somewhere around there. Yeah, you would have been over.

1501
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: Five hundred, and you would have outrun the juice most likely,

1502
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 3: even though when you're betting props the juice can be

1503
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1504
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:28,480
Speaker 2: Punitive.

1505
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 3: But I think overall, what Brian is telling me that

1506
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: if he was he didn't get greedy and tried to

1507
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: go for the big score and he just made a

1508
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 3: few smaller wagers to keep some skin in the game,

1509
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 3: he would have finished on the plus side of the ledger.

1510
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, Brian likes to go for the big score.

1511
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. A lot of betters do, but

1512
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: it's a lesson the parlays is what kills gambling rois well.

1513
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 5: And this is what you're saying to you say this

1514
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: all the time when we're doing the Football Show, is

1515
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 5: you know, sprinkle a half unit yeah on this long

1516
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 5: shot parlay.

1517
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 4: And that's the way you have to do.

1518
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 5: You have to manage your bankroll where if you dip

1519
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 5: your big toe in the parlay waters, make sure it's

1520
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 5: just a big toe, yep, and not your whole upper

1521
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 5: Torso you know what I mean, Like, don't.

1522
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: Go head first, yeah into the pool. Yeah. Unfortunately people

1523
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: don't and I understand, like I don't.

1524
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 3: I never like waxing poetic about gambling advice because it's

1525
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: like telling someone don't go to McDonald's and order five cheeseburgers.

1526
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 3: What if they really like cheeseburgers. Who am I to

1527
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 3: tell you not to eat a cheeseburger? Like I love

1528
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: cheeseburgers too, I'll go. There are McDonald's in order, you know,

1529
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: some mcdoubles on along. But if your goal is to win, huh, Like,

1530
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 3: if your goal is to run a marathon, it's doesn't

1531
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 3: It doesn't help you to walk, right Like walking doesn't

1532
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,560
Speaker 3: help you have to run. You have to train in

1533
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 3: order to achieve whatever goal you set forth. So if

1534
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: your goal is just to lose money on parlays, then yeah,

1535
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 3: you're doing it. You're you're doing a great job, right, No,

1536
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 3: But plays in general.

1537
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: It's just it's hard.

1538
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 4: It's hard.

1539
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: It's very hard, frustrating, and individual make another bed after that.

1540
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: That's a bet.

1541
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 4: You want to go individual, it's the better way to

1542
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 4: do it. But you know, half unit here and there

1543
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 4: have some fun.

1544
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: Maybe you long tom I to tell people how to

1545
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: spend their money. We've got to spend some money on

1546
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: some really dumb things in my lung. Yeah.

1547
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 5: Hey, Jared Smith, FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No Coming

1548
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 5: up next, Legendary Impacts.

1549
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1550
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Speaker 5: Jim Brown legendary NFL player. He died at the age

1558
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 5: of eighty seven. And I mean listen, the three time

1559
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 5: MVP of the league, nine Pro Bowl seasons in his

1560
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 5: nine years in the NFL.

1561
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 4: This one is staggering too. He led the league in

1562
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 4: rushing in eight of his nine years.

1563
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: He was an.

1564
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 5: Outstanding football player and off the field as well, Jared,

1565
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 5: Where we're talking about social activism and you go back

1566
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 5: to the sixties when the world looked much much different,

1567
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 5: and Jim Brown was a huge, huge presence in the

1568
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 5: fight for equal rights and so as far as that goes.

1569
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 5: Jim Brown will always be remembered very fondly by many people.

1570
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 4: And that's the thing. I don't know how you feel

1571
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 4: about it, but.

1572
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 5: Certain guys whenever Jim Brown spoke, whenever I heard him

1573
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: speak about what needed to change and how things needed

1574
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 5: to be different, I always thought of it is like, man,

1575
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 5: he's right, you know what I mean, Like some people

1576
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 5: the way they go about it, You're just like, I

1577
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 5: hear what you're saying, but it just lands wrong. I

1578
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 5: never felt that way when Jim Brown was speaking about,

1579
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 5: you know, getting changed to occur.

1580
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Speaker 3: In this country, renaissance man ahead of his time, actor, activists,

1581
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 3: you know, way more than just an athlete. And it's

1582
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 3: sad and I didn't get a chance to watch him play.

1583
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 3: And I saw a lot of tributes yesterday and I

1584
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: didn't really chime in because I feel a little weird

1585
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 3: sometimes when I, you know, in an athlete passes who

1586
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: obviously transcends sports, but I didn't watch him play. I

1587
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: wasn't part of that generation, So it's I don't really

1588
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 3: have the context to add the obvious accolades you mentioned,

1589
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 3: are they go without saying I remember Jim as as

1590
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 3: an actor like one of my favorite movies, any given

1591
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: Sunday had his role in that movie. And again, I'm

1592
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 3: not trying to boil his career down to you know,

1593
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 3: one movie, but yeah, it just speaks to his depth

1594
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: as a human being to be able to play, you know,

1595
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: so many roles and touch so many people's lives. And

1596
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 3: then of course just his athletic career was i mean basketball,

1597
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: All American lacrosse player, like he did everything. So yeah,

1598
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,480
Speaker 3: the world definitely got a little bit darker yesterday.

1599
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 5: Right, And look, part of his resume, he was accused

1600
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 5: of domestic violence multiple times, right, Like, that's part of it. Sure,

1601
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 5: and it's tricky because you don't want to speak ill

1602
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 5: of the dead. But he got some things wrong in

1603
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 5: his life, really wrong in his life, but he got

1604
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 5: a lot right, a lot right. And when you are

1605
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 5: really good at inspiring change, that's something that everybody is

1606
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 5: good at. Like I thought, Tony Dungee largely has been

1607
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 5: very good at that where you're like, yeah, right, things

1608
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 5: do need to change. I thought Jim Brown largely did

1609
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 5: a great job in that department. Coming up next, this

1610
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 5: team is exactly what this other team should be. One

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 5: team is exactly what the other team should be. We'll

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Speaker 5: way tire buying should be. I couldn't help watching last

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 5: night Jared Smith watching the Miami Heat beat Boston again.

1618
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 5: Miami up to nothing in the series, and I thought,

1619
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 5: you know what, Miami is exactly what the Memphis Grizzlies

1620
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 5: should be. But the main difference is John Morant is

1621
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 5: nowhere near the leader Jimmy Butler is. It can't be

1622
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 5: any more obvious where think about it. Memphis a two

1623
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 5: seed in the West, the Miami Heat an eight seed

1624
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 5: in the East. They're a play in team. Yeah, look

1625
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 5: at what Jah has around him and Jared Jackson junior

1626
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 5: guy's an All star. Like, what does Jimmy have around him?

1627
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 5: Bam Adebayo is a good player, but he's inconsistent. Memphis

1628
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,440
Speaker 5: is more talented top to bottom.

1629
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.

1630
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 5: But Jimmy Butler is such a better leader, so much

1631
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 5: more mature. And you watch, you'll see this all the

1632
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 5: time in the NBA that role players follow the lead

1633
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 5: of the star player, yep. And what you see in

1634
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 5: Miami you see a lot of grinders following the lead

1635
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 5: of Jimmy Butler. And what you see in Memphis you

1636
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 5: see a lot of immature guys following the lead of

1637
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 5: John Morant, who is unfortunately right now the poster child

1638
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 5: of being immature.

1639
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: And a lot of it too is coaching. And I

1640
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 3: don't want to take anything away from Taylor Jenkins, but

1641
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: he's not Eric Foulstra. It's just the the organizational. Pat

1642
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 3: Riley's the head of the Heat organizations. Like it's just

1643
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: there's so many positive influences at the top of the

1644
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 3: Heat organization to where they get the most out of

1645
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: their talent. Whereas and it's not a knock on Memphis,

1646
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: I think one of the biggest critiques in all of

1647
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: sports is not living up to the talent. Right, this

1648
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 3: organization drafts this player, they bring in this guy, and

1649
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:21,799
Speaker 3: they underperform the expectations. Sometimes it's on the player, sometimes

1650
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: it's on the coach in the organization. I think in

1651
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 3: Memphis case, it's more player than organization. But also at

1652
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's fair to say that

1653
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 3: because of the positive structure that Miami has implemented as

1654
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 3: a franchise, it's easier for undrafted players to just basically

1655
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 3: roll out of bed and have success, whereas in other

1656
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 3: organizations it takes more of a collective grind. And Memphis, unfortunately,

1657
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 3: they don't have I guess, enough influence over joh to

1658
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 3: keep him from getting into trouble.

1659
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest, the first mistake made this year,

1660
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: we gave.

1661
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 3: Him a pass for he came back from suspension, everything

1662
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 3: seemed to be okay. They made the playoffs, obviously got

1663
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 3: bounced early. But the second mistake is the exact same

1664
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: mistake just months later, literally the exact same thing. That

1665
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 3: tells me that there is a lack of institutional control

1666
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: going on in Memphis where they couldn't reel Jaw in.

1667
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 3: And I think that is a that's a long term issue.

1668
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't think this is going to be fixed based

1669
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: off of a suspension. Jaw is gonna come back a

1670
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 3: changed man and everything's gonna be hunky dory.

1671
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: This seems like a bigger issue. I don't think it's organizational.

1672
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 3: I think it's just overall collectively, you take jaw, you

1673
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: take what Memphis is as a franchise. Right now, you

1674
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: put those two things together. We haven't seen the growth

1675
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: that's needed from a guy that was taken second overall.

1676
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 3: And I showed glimpses of greatness throughout the early parts

1677
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 3: of his career.

1678
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I think when you start to come it

1679
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 5: stands out even more. Yeah, how immature Jai is because

1680
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 5: if you just look at John a vacuum, some people

1681
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 5: reduce it to man, he's super immature, but he's really young.

1682
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 5: Hopefully figures it out. Like just think about Jimmy Butler.

1683
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 5: Can you imagine Jimmy Butler doing this stuff? Or he

1684
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 5: flashes a gun, he gets an eight game suspension, and

1685
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 5: then fast forward and he's doing the same thing two

1686
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 5: months later. Oh and by the way, before any of that,

1687
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 5: he's saying, I'm fine in the East, right like Jimmy

1688
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 5: Butler flipping around to what John said, I'm finding the West.

1689
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 4: And it's like, bro, you just put a bullseye on

1690
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 4: your entire team. Why would you do that?

1691
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: What's the game?

1692
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 5: And as a two seed they get bounced in six

1693
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 5: games an elimination game they lose by forty Can you

1694
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 5: imagine any of those things with Jimmy talking smack, not

1695
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 5: backing it up, getting bounced in an elimination game by

1696
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 5: forty flashing guns, facing a second suspension, making the same

1697
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 5: mistake two months later. It's insane, it's crazy, and some

1698
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 5: of these people that sugarcoat it. It's not hating on Jaw,

1699
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 5: it's just look, man, sometimes when you're young, you don't

1700
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 5: realize what you have here and now and what you're

1701
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 5: risking going forward. And John Morant clearly doesn't understand that.

1702
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 5: I hope he does figure it out. So I'm not

1703
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 5: rooting against the guy. He's an insane talent. I hope

1704
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 5: he does figure it out, and he's mature and he

1705
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 5: gets the most of his talent. He's got a lot

1706
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 5: of it. But it is no coincidence that you've got

1707
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 5: Jared Jackson Junior last season after they beat the Warriors

1708
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 5: in the regular season tweeting out strengthen numbers, and Klay

1709
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 5: Thompson certainly didn't forget that when the finals rolled around.

1710
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks good example, Jared, if Dylan Brooks ask yourself

1711
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 5: this where he was like, you know, Lebron's old, I

1712
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 5: poke bears and then he didn't back it up whatsoever

1713
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 5: in that first round series. Does Dylan Brooks do that

1714
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 5: if Jimmy Butler is this team mate, that's an honest question.

1715
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: It's a good question.

1716
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he does.

1717
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1718
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 5: Definitely the same Dylan Brooks. If he's following the lead

1719
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 5: of a superstar war Well, let's just leave.

1720
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: It at this. If Dylan Brooks did say it and

1721
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler was on the Grizzlies and Jimmy Butler didn't

1722
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: like it, Jimmy would have said something to Dylan, and

1723
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: Dylan probably makes a retraction, right Like if there was

1724
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 2: an issue with something that Dylan said, Jimmy, being the

1725
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: alpha of the team, would say, listen, Dylan, keep doing that.

1726
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 3: Like go out there and just try to make it better.

1727
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 3: And I know, once the cat's out of the bag,

1728
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 3: it's tough, but it goes. I love cliches. I know cliches.

1729
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 3: I have a lot of corny dad jokes. That's just

1730
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: kind of my vibe. The cliche that I'll use here

1731
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: is fool me wants shame on the fool me twice,

1732
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 3: shame on me. Like if you fool someone once and

1733
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 3: you make a mistake, all right, that one's that one's

1734
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: on you.

1735
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: But you do it again. You don't learn from your mistake.

1736
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 3: That's on the person making the mistake, because if you

1737
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: are that foolish to make a mistake twice, and it's

1738
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,879
Speaker 3: not just a little old mistake like you mispronounced someone's

1739
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: name or something innocent, you made a mistake that was

1740
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 3: clearly met with an immense amount of public scrutiny. Jahn

1741
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Morant's first go around at the flashing of the gun

1742
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 3: on social media. We talked about it here on the show.

1743
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 3: It was talked about on every major network. I'm sure

1744
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 3: Jah heard it. I'm sure his people talk to him.

1745
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 3: For it to happen again in such a short period

1746
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,480
Speaker 3: of time, it not only shows a lack of remorse,

1747
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: it's just it's just stupid like it.

1748
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.

1749
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 3: Like I always try to wrap things around logically, like

1750
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 3: what was this person thinking when they did something? And

1751
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: more often than not, I'm a pretty empathetic guy. I've

1752
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 3: made mistakes in my past. I give people the benefit

1753
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 3: of the doubt. There is no more benefit of the

1754
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 3: doubt with John Moran.

1755
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 2: It is wrong.

1756
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally gone. There's no doubt about that.

1757
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 5: And that's the thing too, is, Look, I understand some

1758
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 5: people are gonna be young, immature, They're gonna make some

1759
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 5: bad decisions. I understand that, but I think two things.

1760
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 5: You can't just dismiss this wrongdoing as young and immature.

1761
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 5: Lebron came into the NBA with all this fanfare, all

1762
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 5: this hype, and he more than lived up to it.

1763
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 5: And he didn't do anything close to us stupid when

1764
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 5: he was that young, right, Like, don't sell me on. Oh,

1765
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 5: he's just immature and shoulder shrug it away. It's like, no,

1766
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 5: that's not good enough, man. And the other part of

1767
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 5: this is what you were just saying, is it doesn't

1768
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 5: even make sense where he's doing the same thing twice

1769
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 5: two months after he got suspended for eight games. It'd

1770
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 5: be like you if you cheat on your wife by

1771
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 5: hooking up with a supermodel, you know what I mean? Like,

1772
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 5: that's wrong, that's stupid. But at least I can understand

1773
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 5: how that happened, How that major mistake was made with

1774
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 5: John in another gun video. I don't even understand how

1775
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 5: that mistake is made.

1776
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 4: Again, I don't know. It doesn't add up.

1777
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's asinine.

1778
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 3: And when I see people make and again it goes

1779
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 3: back to en court decisions. If you are that foolish

1780
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 3: when you are calm in your own you know, safe

1781
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 3: space of your house or your apartment, and you're.

1782
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,799
Speaker 2: Making foolish decisions in that space.

1783
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: How can I rely on you to make the right

1784
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 3: decision when a million miles an hour, you know, basketball

1785
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: games flying up and down the court, and you have

1786
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 3: to make the right decision over and over and over again.

1787
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 3: That's the part about sports that I think gets lost

1788
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 3: in the weeds. It's not about being great once. Anybody

1789
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 3: can be great once. Any guy that's never played golf

1790
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 3: before in their entire life can walk up to a

1791
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: t and poke one and it goes in the hole

1792
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 3: and it's like.

1793
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm the best golfer in the world. Yeah, do

1794
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 2: it again on the next hole.

1795
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1796
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 3: It's consistency in sports, in my opinion, is where greatness

1797
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 3: is born. Greatness is not born from one guy stepping

1798
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 3: on the floor and dropping fifty in one game. Can

1799
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 3: you come back the next game and play at that level?

1800
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 3: And then the next game and the next game, and

1801
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 3: can you go in the gym and inspire your teammates

1802
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 3: to be better as well. And when you can't do

1803
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 3: that at the simplest of levels, which is not commit

1804
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 3: crimes by doing stupid things, how can I trust you

1805
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 3: to be a leader of men on a floor filled

1806
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 3: with alphas in a basketball game and then do it

1807
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 3: again for multiple seasons.

1808
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: And be in an MVP L like.

1809
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 3: It's just it removes all respect from the level of

1810
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: equation of consistency. Consistency in sports matters more than greatness.

1811
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 3: I'm convinced that consistency is what leads to greatness. And

1812
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 3: I can't take Josh seriously at face value based off

1813
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 3: of what he's.

1814
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 4: Done over the last year.

1815
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, and hey, that's the thing is, look at Miami.

1816
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 5: Miami is a great example of consistency. The prime example.

1817
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 5: You win Game one in Boston, you're down by nearly

1818
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 5: double digits midway through the fourth quarter last night, you

1819
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 5: could have just said, that's not our night. We got

1820
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 5: to split on the road. That's what we were trying

1821
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 5: to do. They just keep grinding. They are as consistent

1822
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 5: as it gets. And that's all I'm saying is it's

1823
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 5: not a coincidence that Miami is up two to oh

1824
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 5: in the Eastern Conference Finals. They're led by Jimmy Butler, grinder, consistent, mature,

1825
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 5: He's got seven undrafted guys on his roster, and they've

1826
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 5: got a two zero lead in the Eastern Conference Finals

1827
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 5: after winning two road games in Boston. It's not a

1828
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 5: coincidence they are where they are, and it's not a

1829
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 5: coincidence Memphis is where they are.

1830
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: Lose by forty points.

1831
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 5: In an elimination game in round one, right Like, you

1832
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 5: can bury your head in the sand and be like,

1833
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 5: well they didn't have Brandon Clark or Steven Adams and

1834
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 5: play the well, well, well well game all you want,

1835
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 5: but the truth is their star player is immature and

1836
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 5: he is nowhere near the leader that Jimmy Butler is,

1837
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 5: and that has a seismic effect going forward on the

1838
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 5: rest of the roster. It just does in sports. And

1839
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 5: if you want to be blind to that fact, I

1840
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 5: can't help you. But that is staring you right in

1841
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 5: the faith.

1842
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't have said it any better myself. And again,

1843
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 3: I think consistency in sports is very underrated. Consistency is boring.

1844
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 3: Waking up every day and doing the same routine every

1845
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 3: day is boring. People like varieties, the spice of life.

1846
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 3: People like doing different things, they like trying new things.

1847
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 3: In reality, the most boring athletes Nikolaiokisch, I'll throw it

1848
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 3: an example, Yeah, tend to be the most successful.

1849
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: The ones that have no life outside of their routine.

1850
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 3: They eat, sleep, and breathe, consistent routine, their diet, their nutrition,

1851
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 3: the way they go about their business with their families,

1852
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 3: how they balance the work life.

1853
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 2: That is what makes a great athlete.

1854
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 3: The ones who are the greatest are the ones that

1855
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 3: can compartmentalize all of those things and stay consistent with

1856
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 3: their routine. And I think Jaws just volatile all over

1857
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 3: the place. You don't know what he's gonna do next.

1858
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: That's not how you win in professional sports long term.

1859
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 5: Nope, well said, Hey, he's Jared Smith, Fox Sports Radio

1860
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 5: betting analyst. I'm Brian No, not a Fox Sports Radio

1861
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 5: betting analyst because I make bets one after.

1862
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 3: Stop making parlays. You're fine, You're making good picks. You're

1863
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 3: putting them all together.

1864
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, I like the positive spin on that. It's

1865
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 5: very well done by you. All right, come it up next.

1866
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 5: We got a handful of changes happening in the Sports World.

1867
01:33:58,400 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 4: Which do you like?

1868
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 5: Which you dislike? We'll have a list for you around

1869
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 5: the corner. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox

1870
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 5: Sports Radio.

1871
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 2: Welcome back in.

1872
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

1873
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 5: We're coming to you live from the Tireck dot Com studios. Man,

1874
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 5: it's goo to be working today with John Metalhead Ramos.

1875
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 5: Very nice that Ramosa on with us here as the

1876
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:23,759
Speaker 5: technical producer.

1877
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 9: I just remember your love there, Brian.

1878
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 4: I always always give you something at least once, right,

1879
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 4: love that.

1880
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So let that play out a while too, so

1881
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 3: I could just picture Brian in his little cubicle cubby

1882
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,799
Speaker 3: wherever he does a show for jamming down, rocking head banging.

1883
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 4: I need a longer like headphone cord so I can

1884
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 4: get wash with the air.

1885
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:50,560
Speaker 3: You know, when Ramos get those Britney Spears ones, it

1886
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 3: just like goes in your ear, the little baby ones,

1887
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 3: you know, the little little things that you can look

1888
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 3: wireless room.

1889
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 5: Kind of like the NBA players in the pregame shoot

1890
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 5: around routine, you know, little wireless action.

1891
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 2: Sure, I'd love to mic up. I wish we had

1892
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: footage of Rich miked up during a game.

1893
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 3: I would have loved to hear because we've heard stories,

1894
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 3: but it doesn't quite do it justice when you actually

1895
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 3: hear them say it. Yeah, all those little babies put

1896
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 3: underneath the pad. You just hear everything Rich.

1897
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 4: Says, miked up footage is tremendous. Well, how about this.

1898
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,799
Speaker 5: It's kind of a pretty good segue right there, Jared

1899
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 5: unintentionally is we've got some changes in the sports world.

1900
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: How about this?

1901
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 5: What do you think the Pac twelve They're gonna going

1902
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 5: to expand their access during college football broadcasts.

1903
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 4: So what are they gonna do.

1904
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 5: They're gonna have some in game coach interviews, They're gonna

1905
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 5: have some halftime locker room access. And look, I think

1906
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 5: a lot of people mostly would roll their eyes and

1907
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 5: be like, oh yeah, it can't miss television now. But

1908
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 5: every now and then it produces some gems. Not everything

1909
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 5: is gold. You're gonna get some coaching cliches, and the

1910
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 5: locker room footage isn't gonna exactly be like any given

1911
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 5: Sunday anything like that, but every now and then you

1912
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 5: get some gold. This was I'll use basketball as an

1913
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 5: example here. So this was the halftime interview in Game two.

1914
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 5: Lakers had the lead over the Nuggets. And this is

1915
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 5: what Lisa Salters asked Ruey Hachimura at halftime.

1916
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 4: Check this out.

1917
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 2: What it felt good to you?

1918
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 4: Offensive movie to the room.

1919
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 2: You know, they don't have a rep protector? So how

1920
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 2: was at film? And that's what I'm doing right now?

1921
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 5: Okay, So you know he said it fast there, but

1922
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 5: they don't have a rim protector like that. That's gonna

1923
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 5: be something that gets brought up the rest of the series.

1924
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 5: What Rui Hachimura said during halftime, So as it relates

1925
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 5: to Pac twelve football, they got to do whatever they

1926
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 5: can to put bells and whistles on that product and

1927
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 5: if a little bit helps, I'm here for it.

1928
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:56,759
Speaker 2: Totally agree.

1929
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 3: So the XFL, I think championed it this year in

1930
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 3: terms of what they gave to us as an audience

1931
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 3: that was different than the NFL product.

1932
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: And I watched a lot of the XFL games this year.

1933
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 3: One of my friends in the business, Jim Monas is

1934
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 3: there is their head of operations, and you know, I

1935
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 3: gave him some advice on the gambling side, what are

1936
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 3: some things that you can do to maybe get more

1937
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 3: interest in the sport. And everything was always revolving around

1938
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 3: access and information because I think when you watch a

1939
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 3: game today, I think the and we're seeing this in

1940
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 3: the video game world too. In the entertainment world, well,

1941
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 3: let's be honest, sports entertainment. The most popular video games today,

1942
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 3: some of them are all first player VR games. You know,

1943
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 3: where you're kind of in the moment you're the first

1944
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 3: play the role player game. And VR has become very

1945
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 3: popular too because we want more we want more access,

1946
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 3: we want more live like feelings when we're watching something

1947
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 3: on our and I think the best way to do

1948
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 3: that is to put the user in the experience as

1949
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: much as possible.

1950
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: So the more access, the better.

1951
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 3: So and also from a gambling perspective, I would love

1952
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 3: to know what's going on in the halftime locker room

1953
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 3: with a lot of these teams. And we heard Peyton

1954
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: Manning on the many casts say, oh, they don't make

1955
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 3: a lot of adjustments at half. I don't know if

1956
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 3: I fully buy that. Maybe the players don't, but the

1957
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 3: coaches certainly do. And I'm curious at what said if

1958
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 3: there's a team that's getting beat in the first half

1959
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 3: because of X, I want to know if that is

1960
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 3: the big focus of the locker room speech, because maybe

1961
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 3: it gives us an opportunity to bet X in the

1962
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 3: second half. And I think when you talk about entertainment value,

1963
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 3: let's be honest, a lot of those PAC twelve games

1964
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 3: are on at times. They're on networks that people don't

1965
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 3: have access to to begin with. They don't want to watch.

1966
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 3: If you give them a more incentivize them to watch,

1967
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 3: Oh well, what's this coach going to say next? Now

1968
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 3: the coaches have to help out with that. You have

1969
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 3: to have some entertainment value there. There has to be

1970
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 3: some playing up, hamming for the camera. But if they

1971
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 3: can get some of these coaches and players to get

1972
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 3: on board and actually give us something to chew on, yeah, yeah,

1973
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 3: I could see this being very successful.

1974
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 5: I'd like to see college football in the NFL do

1975
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 5: a little bit more of what the NBA does with

1976
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 5: the micd up footage, and what they do is they

1977
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 5: just package it. It's a little, you know, thirty second quick,

1978
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 5: little highlight mintage and it gives you some good stuff.

1979
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 5: When you had joe El Embiid accidentally step on the

1980
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 5: head of Grant Williams's last round and then they're talking

1981
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 5: about it soon after, Yeah, that's gold right there. I

1982
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 5: would love to get more of that in college football,

1983
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 5: in the NFL.

1984
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 2: All of that.

1985
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 3: What it does is it gives us, It makes us

1986
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 3: feel like we're a part of it more than we

1987
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 3: really are. Yeah, And that is how you connect viewers

1988
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 3: to the game. That's how you make them feel like

1989
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 3: they're watching more than a product. They're actually watching something

1990
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 3: that they can relate to instead of just oh, the

1991
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 3: games on I'm going to watch because it's the game

1992
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna watch. But now you're actually engaged. You want

1993
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,640
Speaker 3: to know what's this guy gonna actually say? What's his personality?

1994
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 2: Like we all want to, you know.

1995
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 3: That's the reason that a lot of sports media personalities

1996
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 3: have become successful. It's not necessarily their knowledge. And don't

1997
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 3: get me wrong, a lot of them are very knowledgeable.

1998
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 3: But when you're watching them on TV or listening to

1999
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 3: them on the radio, you relate to them. You want

2000
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 3: to be around them, you want to hang out with them,

2001
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 3: watch the game, have a beer and talk. And the

2002
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 3: only way that you can learn about their personalities is

2003
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 3: if you get the off color stuff, the stuff that

2004
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 3: happens in between the lines. You know, the randomness of

2005
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 3: a sporting event. There's a lot of dull moments where

2006
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 3: people say things, what they're thinking, what they're feeling. That's

2007
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 3: how you get to know people, and that's how you

2008
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 3: know if you relate to them or not, or you

2009
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 3: don't or you don't relate to them and you're like, yeah,

2010
01:40:58,920 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 3: I don't like this person, get them off.

2011
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2012
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 5: Hey, here's one other change too in the NFL, is

2013
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 5: that a wild card game this season is gonna be

2014
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,839
Speaker 5: broadcast exclusively on Peacock.

2015
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 4: It's gonna be opposite access.

2016
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first opposite of the first story we just did.

2017
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, first live streamed postseason game ever. And so NBC

2018
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 5: Universal with Jones Peacock, they shell out in the range

2019
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 5: of one hundred and ten million dollars to stream this

2020
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 5: one game four hours. Yeah, and they've got about twenty

2021
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 5: one million subscribers. So they're absolutely trying to use the

2022
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 5: NFL to get more subscribers.

2023
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 2: Yep.

2024
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Speaker 5: And look, man, we're just gonna see more and more

2025
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 5: of this, this slow progression into the streaming realm. The

2026
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 5: one thing I dislike about this, Jared, is some of

2027
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 5: the most fun about watching these games is that you

2028
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 5: can discuss it with your friends, your family members, whatever,

2029
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 5: and it just sucks.

2030
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 4: If you're like, oh, man, you see that wild Card

2031
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 4: game and.

2032
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 5: My dad's like, no, I don't have peacock, or one

2033
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,719
Speaker 5: of my friends like, now I'm not gonna buy peacock.

2034
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 5: I didn't see it, and you're like, oh, like, there's

2035
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,600
Speaker 5: nowhere for us to go with that conversation. That's the

2036
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 5: one thing I dislike where the access is so limited

2037
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 5: and there are a lot of people that aren't gonna

2038
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 5: see it, and you can't compare notes about a game.

2039
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two things here.

2040
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 3: First of all, this will keep happening, you're right, because

2041
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 3: the NFL can get away with it. That's the second

2042
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 3: thing is the NFL is adept at getting you really

2043
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 3: upset about a change, and then at the end of

2044
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 3: the day nothing really changes because you watch it anyways,

2045
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 3: Like the NFL is elite at getting you to do

2046
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 3: something you don't want to do because it's the only

2047
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 3: way that you can watch the NFL. For example, it's

2048
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 3: a little different now here on the West Coast. I

2049
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 3: didn't mind it as much when I lived on the

2050
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 3: East Coast.

2051
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 2: It's not easy to get up at five am and

2052
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 2: watch these games in London, sure, especially when I've.

2053
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 3: Got eight twelve more hours of football to watch throughout

2054
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 3: the course of the day. We do all these shows,

2055
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. Now you're making me wake up

2056
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 3: four hours earlier to watch another game because the window

2057
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 3: is getting bigger. And now they do the London games

2058
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: and the Germany games. And I did it begrudgingly. I

2059
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 3: woke up at five am here locally and watched the

2060
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 3: football game I think two or three games this year

2061
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 3: overseas where I woke up at that time and watched.

2062
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 3: And then the next step of it is now the streaming,

2063
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to have Amazon Prime. Last year

2064
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: you had to have and a lot you know, Amazon

2065
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 3: Prime is a little easier to access than Peacock, I think.

2066
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,879
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of people out there that probably

2067
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 3: turned on their TV that first Thursday and had no

2068
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 3: idea what they were doing. And they still did it though,

2069
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 3: and they tried to do it, and you could see

2070
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 3: the you know, the old man yelling at the cloud saying, honey.

2071
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 2: Why can't I get Pete Cocker or Amazon on the

2072
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,719
Speaker 2: I just want to watch the Jets. And it's gonna

2073
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 2: keep happening because the NFL can get away with it.

2074
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 2: They can do it. You're gonna watch the games no

2075
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: matter what. They know.

2076
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 3: They've got you, hook line and sinker. They could do

2077
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 3: whatever they want, and we are still going to watch

2078
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 3: these games.

2079
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 5: The first thing I thought of when you said that

2080
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 5: about the NFL will complain, yet we'll still watch most

2081
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 5: of us. I'm like, I wish it worked the same

2082
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 5: way in relationships. You know, where it's you know what

2083
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 5: I mean, there's complaining, but they go along with it,

2084
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 5: Like we're gonna go to Vegas and watch football all day?

2085
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 2: Okay, Like, yeah, right, go along with it. You won't

2086
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 2: be there or she won't be there when you get that.

2087
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 4: That's that's exactly right, all right.

2088
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 5: I Low the man, the myth, the legend with the

2089
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 5: latest in the sports world, Isaac Glow and cron what's

2090
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 5: going on?

2091
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 9: I'm telling you, guys are right on mark my words.

2092
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 9: Sixty four, Super Bowls sixty four coming up on Crackle.

2093
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

2094
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, guys, pay per view super Bowls coming.

2095
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 3: I hate that idea, I know, but it's coming.

2096
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 2: And guess what we're we're all gonna pay for it.

2097
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, so, which one call your shot. You

2098
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 4: say sixty four? I love what do you say?

2099
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 9: Do you know what I just that was kind of

2100
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 9: a that was the way. Yeah, I'm gonna go with

2101
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 9: Super sixty four, super Bowl sixty four, that's what twenty

2102
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 9: thirty I guess.

2103
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, far away seven years for Super Bowl sixty five.

2104
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 9: Now fifty seven, fifty seven of the bucks. Guys, boy,

2105
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 9: I know, well, this has been a depressing report. In

2106
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:35,559
Speaker 9: Game two, Speaking of confronting their own mortality, the bus

2107
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:39,720
Speaker 9: at Celtics. They were up by twelve points with ten

2108
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 9: eighteen left in the fourth quarter of Game two last night,

2109
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 9: eighty nine to seventy seven, but the Miami Heat outscored

2110
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 9: them the rest of the way, thirty four to sixteen

2111
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 9: for a what eleven to five victory, added two games

2112
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 9: to then lead. Jimmy Butler twenty seven points them at

2113
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 9: a bio at twenty two points, seventeen rebounds and nine assist.

2114
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 9: Caleb Martin scored twenty five off the bench. Jason Tatum

2115
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 9: at a losing cause for the Seas thirty four points,

2116
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 9: thirteen rebounds and eight assists. In Game one of the

2117
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 9: NHL's Western Conference Finals Friday night, the Vegas Golden Knights

2118
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 9: defeated the Dallas Stars in overtime, four to three. Brett

2119
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 9: Howden scored the winner just a minute and thirty five

2120
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 9: seconds into overtime, which Carolina Hurricanes fans I'm sure were

2121
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 9: thrilled to find out. In Major League Baseball, on Friday night,

2122
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 9: the Boston Red Sox defeated the Padres in San Diego

2123
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 9: six to one. Rafael Devers two home runs. Padres by

2124
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 9: the way of lost ten of twelve. USC Athletic director

2125
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 9: Mike Bone abruptly resigned on Friday, a day after The

2126
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 9: LA Times asked him and USC about internal criticism of

2127
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 9: his management and behavior that included Bone allegedly making inappropriate

2128
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 9: remarks about the physical appearance of female colleagues. Finally, in

2129
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 9: Round three of the PGA Championship, Victor Hovelin, Scotti Scheffler,

2130
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 9: and Corey Connor share the lead at five under par overall, Fellas,

2131
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 9: I'm going to work on game. I hading a Crackle subscription.

2132
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 9: You're free to borrow my passwords.

2133
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 2: Is that a real thing?

2134
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, that's a real thing.

2135
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I thought it was the

2136
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: candy from nets.

2137
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know if it still exists anymore. But

2138
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 9: remember when Dan Patrick did Sports Jeopardy that was on

2139
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 9: Crackle at the time. Yeah, there's a bunch of you.

2140
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 3: Know, to b to I've heard of, Well, I have

2141
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 3: sixty five US what was that streaming? Fubo is what

2142
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 3: I use.

2143
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 2: They've got.

2144
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 3: Fubo is the only network that I've had that has

2145
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 3: the PAC twelve network on it specifically, I mean you

2146
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 3: have to actually had a twelve network. Is like, it's

2147
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 3: like digging for gold.

2148
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 9: I thought they were actually streaming on Foo Bars.

2149
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 5: It is Fox Sports Saturday. Here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 5: Brian Knowing, Jared Smith with you. Archimpadre rich Ornberger out today.

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Speaker 5: He'll be back next week.

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing, Jared.

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01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting because it was just a couple

2154
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 5: of days ago when the Sixers got bounced from the

2155
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,560
Speaker 5: playoffs by the Celtics, and it was like, oh, this

2156
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 5: tanking never works, and the way this Celtics did it

2157
01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 5: is so much better, and on and on and on. Look, man,

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01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 5: there's no doubt Boston has been more successful than the

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01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 5: seventy six ers. We're talking about the latest erow with

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01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,799
Speaker 5: Joel Embiid and then the Two Jays Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum.

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01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Jared Boston hasn't won Jack either.

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01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 5: Nope, right, Like, I know, Boston's been in the conference

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01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 5: finals five of the past seven seasons. They've had a

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01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 5: better run of success than Philadelphia has. But man, Philly

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01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 5: was raked over the coals about a week ago. And

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01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 5: now you fast forward after all this lovey dovey Celtics stuff,

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01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 5: and oh, look at them, and look at the way

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01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 5: Ange built it, and look at Tatum, look at Brown.

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01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 5: They're down oh two against an eight seed in the

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01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 5: conference finals. I just wanted to throw that out there.

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01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 5: I think it's a very fair take.

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01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 3: I think there's an alternate reality where eme Udokus still

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01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 3: coaching the team, where maybe they have a little bit

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01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 3: more of a fighting chance with some of the adjustments.

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01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, it's pretty obvious to me that Missoula

2176
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 3: has been a little outmatched in this series. I thought

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 3: Timms had a chance to out fox faalstro I was wrong.

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01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 2: Missoula's got no shot.

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01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 3: Like, there is zero chance that Missoula is gonna make

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01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 3: these wild adjustments over the next two days and Boston's

2181
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 3: gonna stroll in the South Beach and look like a

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01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 3: different team tomorrow night. I don't see that being a reality.

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01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 3: And I think Joe's out foxed in this series. And

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01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: maybe there's a maybe there's another reality where em wouldn't

2185
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 3: have been, but he's not here right now coaching. This

2186
01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 3: is the reality that we're living in, and the reality

2187
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 3: we're living in right now, it is going to take

2188
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 3: an asteroid striking the Earth. I think for Jimmy Butler

2189
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 3: in this Heat team to get knocked off their rocker,

2190
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 3: we are going to have to see some kind of

2191
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:56,640
Speaker 3: massive adjustment with what the Celtics are able to do,

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01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 3: how they combat the mental grind, and how Ja Tatum

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01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 3: and Jalen Brown handle the fourth quarter of these games.

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 3: And it's fair to critique Boston on the same level

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01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 3: as Philly. I think both of these teams. There's really

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01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 3: only two ways to look at it. It's we're very

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01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 3: black and white in sports. I know we got into

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01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 3: the honest discussion about the gray area of failure, but

2199
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 3: let's be honest, black and white winning a championship, not

2200
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 3: winning a championship. Boston and Philly are in the same boat.

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01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 3: Maybe Boston's had a little bit more success, but they

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01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 3: are still both.

2203
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 2: In the same boat.

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01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 3: And I think the expectations with Boston maybe have been

2205
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 3: slightly higher, but they're still in the same boat as

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01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 3: the seventy six ers. They've been to the top of

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01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 3: the mountain, but they haven't been able to climb the peak,

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01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 3: the final peak. They felt just short last year, and

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01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 3: it looks like they're gonna fall too rung short this year.

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01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 3: So I think all that criticism is fair. I don't

2211
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 3: know where Philly goes from here. The James Harden situation

2212
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 3: clearly is he's running a team now if if he's

2213
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 3: the one that got the Rivers fired. But there's a

2214
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of negatives on both of these

2215
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 3: franchises right.

2216
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:06,800
Speaker 2: Now with how they run behind the scenes.

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01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 5: It really is wild to do the Celtics Sixers comparison

2218
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:13,879
Speaker 5: because think of this Jared you had after the Sixers

2219
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 5: got embid, which by the way, has worked out marvelously

2220
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 5: for sure. They they went number one overall, they took

2221
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 5: Markel Foltz and the Celtics two picks later got Jalen Brown,

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01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 5: and then the very next year Philly trades up to

2223
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 5: number one to take Ben Simmons, two picks later, Boston

2224
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 5: takes Jason Tatum. Yep, like pair one of those two guys,

2225
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 5: either Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown with Joel Embiid. Those

2226
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 5: are two monstrous swings and misses for the Sixers. And

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01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 5: but that's the other thing, though, Jared is I think

2228
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 5: a lot of people associate tanking just with the Sixers,

2229
01:51:56,479 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 5: And it's like the Spurs didn't try like crazy to

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01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 5: win every single game this year. They made some moves

2231
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 5: and they structured their roster to just coincidentally be fit

2232
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,679
Speaker 5: to lose a bunch of games. When this guy Winbin Yama,

2233
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 5: who might be the next big thing, great prospect, could

2234
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 5: change the course of their franchise. I just think that, right,

2235
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 5: you can't poo poo tanking in all facets because it

2236
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 5: has worked for other teams before and it's probably gonna

2237
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 5: work for the Spurs right here.

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01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 3: It's like a backhanded compliment. Sometimes it gets the person

2239
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 3: that you give it to more interested in you. Sometimes

2240
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 3: it backfires and goes the other way and they only

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01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 3: look at the negative side of it. It depends on

2242
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:43,520
Speaker 3: the DNA structure of that particular franchise. And let's diagnose

2243
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Their DNA is not quite

2244
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 3: on the same championship winning level as the San Antonio Spurs.

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01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. San Antonio Spurs have a culture of winning,

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01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,799
Speaker 3: and this was a very strange year for them, but maybe.

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01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 2: It was all by design. And this is a Spurs

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01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 2: team that even.

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01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 3: In their down years without you know, when they were

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01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,759
Speaker 3: going through that really impressive run in the early two thousands,

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01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 3: they had Manu and Parker and Duncan, and then they

2252
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 3: kind of hit a little bit of a lull, but

2253
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 3: they were still with Kawhi Leonard, a really powerful successful franchise,

2254
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 3: and then it kind of really fell off the rails

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01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. And now they've hit rock

2256
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 3: bottom and now they get this refresh, They get to

2257
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 3: hit the refresh button, and I think it's gonna be

2258
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 3: a really quick rebuild because again, the championship culture. I think,

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01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 3: for example, the Spurs don't have a culture of trust

2260
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 3: the process. That's not what is in their DNA. They're

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01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,640
Speaker 3: much more Yankees driven win every year. It's just this

2262
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 3: particular year. I think maybe they saw the writing on

2263
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 3: the wall and they said, listen, we've got a chance

2264
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 3: to really get this gap picked their women. Yon, I

2265
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 3: would if I was running a franchise, and I've had

2266
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 3: this conversation with my friends all the time, I would

2267
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:56,560
Speaker 3: be open to tanking.

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01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 2: In a classy way. But but you've you gotta read

2269
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: the room, right.

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01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was classy tanking by the Spurs where they're like,

2271
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 5: all right, let's tank.

2272
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 4: Let's just not give it a slogan like the process.

2273
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 4: Let's let's not hug it. Yeah, you know, publicly name.

2274
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 2: Brand our failures.

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01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:18,640
Speaker 4: Here, exactly, no doubt about that.

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01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 2: All right.

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01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 5: He's Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming

2278
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 5: up next. Let's win some cash. And it got me thinking,

2279
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 5: in the betting world, Jared, there's one thing that gets

2280
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 5: a bad rap and there's another thing that gets a

2281
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 5: complete free pass. And I don't think they're polar opposites.

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01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,520
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Speaker 5: that was Bam out of bio. The put back dunk

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Speaker 5: off a rare Butler miss right there as Miami beat

2295
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 5: Boston all night. Yeah, to take a two to Ohero

2296
01:55:27,920 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 5: Series lead, and I just needed one more Jimmy Butler assist.

2297
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, right there.

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01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 4: I'm tempted. We'll see in the picks here in a second.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 5: Props to the crew though, Bob Benson, our trusted producer

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01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 5: John Ramos, always great to hang out with. Ramos here

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01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 5: Technical producer extraordinaire Isaac Lohenkron crushing it on the updates,

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Speaker 5: the top of the hour.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was thinking about this, Jared before our

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01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 4: picks today.

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01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 5: I got a tweet here from Rick and he just wrote,

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01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 5: Lebron James miss dunk was a winner. For me, as

2310
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 5: I had Joker scoring more than a D and Lebron

2311
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 5: in separate bets. He said, it's brutal to lose a

2312
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 5: basketball bet on one shot. I've had some of them

2313
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 5: go badly in March Madness in the NBA playoffs. Single

2314
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 5: bets are good, but I like two team teasers in

2315
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 5: the NFL. Now here's what I took away from that.

2316
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 5: Props to Rick winning both of his bets, and thank

2317
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 5: you for the tweet. Parlays get such a bad rap, Jared.

2318
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 5: You know, teasers don't get the bad rap that parlays do.

2319
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 5: And I'll just say this, all parlays are not created equal.

2320
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 5: You know, if you're chasing one twenty to one odds,

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01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 5: it's probably not gonna cash, right, But if you have

2322
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 5: a parlay and it's basically even money or like minus

2323
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 5: one twenty, it's not the most absurd thing ever, but

2324
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 5: it gets lumped in with the crazy parlay bets.

2325
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 3: I agree parlays in general, so on average, the sports

2326
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 3: book makes about five cents for every dollar.

2327
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 2: It's called the hold percentage.

2328
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:14,080
Speaker 3: For parlays, it's like twenty cents, So you're but you're right,

2329
01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 3: though not all parlays are created equal teaser bets. If

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01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 3: you tease the right numbers in the NFL, I can

2331
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 3: get behind them.

2332
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2333
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 3: But a lot of times teaser bets, especially if you're

2334
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 3: teasing totals, that's a big no no. Listen, there's a

2335
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 3: lot of people out there in the sports gambling space

2336
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 3: that want to tell you all the ways not to bet.

2337
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're.

2338
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,560
Speaker 3: Really smart and they're way smarter than you. Right, I

2339
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 3: want to talk down to you. I'll just tell you

2340
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 3: over time, you will likely lose if you make those bets.

2341
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:43,080
Speaker 3: You can still do it, but you will likely lose.

2342
01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 2: I hear you.

2343
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 4: It's just funny.

2344
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 5: The reaction is if you have an even money teaser,

2345
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, if you have an even money parlay,

2346
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 5: it's oh.

2347
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 4: Man, Vegas was built on parlays. It's just funny. Okay,

2348
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 4: we got picks. What do you have for us today

2349
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 4: in this world?

2350
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 2: How about this? The no run first in the Marlins

2351
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 2: Giants game?

2352
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 3: Love that today. Those are my flavor bets in baseball.

2353
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 3: Yes run, no run first, inning, in and out in

2354
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. You can go about your day to do

2355
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 3: whatever you want. Obviously, the Nuggets Lakers game tonight is

2356
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 3: gonna catch a lot of attention. Give me, give me

2357
01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 3: five with the Nuggets, right like the Nuggets are the

2358
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 3: better team. I know, desperation. The line I think is

2359
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 3: baking in the desperation that the Lakers are gonna play with.

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01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 3: Probably like the Celtics game last night, probably over baked.

2361
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 3: But here's a couple of props for you. Bruce Brown's

2362
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 3: been on fire with his points prop He's hit that

2363
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 3: in a few straight and I mean, goodness, graces. Jamal

2364
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 3: Murray is just the rock star. So give me Jamal

2365
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 3: Murray props tonight too, and maybe Bruce Brown as well.

2366
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go same game, parlay on you. I'm

2367
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 4: just kidding. I'm not gonna do that.

2368
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it simple because I've hit a drought

2369
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 5: on sgps over here. Give me the Lakers minus three

2370
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 5: and a half in the first half.

2371
01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 2: I like that.

2372
01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 9: They gotta have it.

2373
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 4: They outplayed him in the first half on the road.

2374
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 4: Have energy.

2375
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: I think it hits