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Speaker 2: I think I think the coaches, obviously in the interim

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Speaker 3: They've seen enough, assuming.

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Speaker 3: They want something new.

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Speaker 2: They want to see what Jamis Jameis Winston can get

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure Jack will come back. What maybe what

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Speaker 4: and it takes a love away. It takes a love away,

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Speaker 1: Much, especially if you, o Jo, if you're an elite player,

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Speaker 1: I can't, man, I can't do this. Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Gi A Lexander was an All Pro. He's a Pro

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Speaker 1: something ain't right. I told you say, oh Yo, something

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Speaker 1: I don't why this man. I watched this man coming.

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Speaker 5: To the league. He's with one of the better corners.

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Speaker 1: And when you watch yourself, if you watch yourself on tape,

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Speaker 5: I ain't say that. Run the tape. Yeah, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you don't see yourself play in real time.

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Speaker 1: You got to go back and watch the tape and

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Speaker 1: you went to Savannah State. That's all it does. It

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Speaker 1: I did this? I did that? Let me hit that

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Speaker 5: What? What?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 5: Joe? Joe? What did you? Joe? What did you say?

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Speaker 5: You did? Okay, here, listen, let's watch it. It ain't

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Speaker 4: Boy, you get in there and coach got that clicker

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Speaker 4: and he rewinding this same play and you and and

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Speaker 4: you like, oh my god, like watching yourself on film, bro,

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, hey, look I used to be in the

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Speaker 1: Same thing. Joe ain't gonna assignments. Yeah, we gotta win

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Speaker 1: show this film. Lord, please let us Hey, john Please

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Speaker 1: make her play. Let us come back, because I don't

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Speaker 1: What hey, Sean, what you doing this play? I think

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Speaker 1: I got it. Nothing nothing, that's what Sean did on

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Speaker 5: You to be back. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people don't know you're injured. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: Oh you know if they see they see Alexander on

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Speaker 5: They don't give a damn about you.

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Speaker 1: the last five ten years. Make them now, yes, sir, mm,

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. Your teammates have the same expectations, and they

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Speaker 1: put that Your teammates put that pressure on you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be you gonna ay, you be good to

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Speaker 1: go Sunday, right, damn, dude.

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Speaker 5: Is Tuesday? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know hey, and then the coaches, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put the game plan now, we know we

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Speaker 5: In the game playing. Y'all ain't have me in the

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Speaker 1: The game playing now oo yeah, now I'm in the

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Speaker 5: But it's tough.

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Speaker 1: I've been in Jayard's shoes where I've been injured and

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Speaker 1: knowing I'm hurt, but all they see is eighty four

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Speaker 5: Yep, that's what they see.

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Speaker 1: Expectations don't change, Oh.

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Speaker 5: Jo, You're gonna like this story.

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Speaker 1: On his way home from blowing out the Bills, Dolphins

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Speaker 1: coach Mike McDaniel drove by elbow ebel elbowroom, elbowroom at Barwood.

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Speaker 1: Bills fans congregate when Buffalo's in town to troll their fans.

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Speaker 1: McDaniel was asked about it today. Let's take a listen

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Speaker 1: to what he had to say.

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Speaker 5: Hour is that real?

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Speaker 3: But you know that's it.

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Speaker 7: That's why I like the good old days, you know,

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Speaker 7: the throwbacks of your where you can trust you know,

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Speaker 7: that area, but I mean a I right, so.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It confirmed. Did not mean I live in that area.

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Speaker 3: AI is real.

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Speaker 5: That's what I got for you, Okay, I like I

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Speaker 5: like it.

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Speaker 1: Two things can be true. He can live in that area.

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Speaker 1: What three things? He lives in that area? AI is real?

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Speaker 5: And that was him?

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Speaker 3: Hey, which one is it?

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Speaker 5: Do you think it?

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 5: Old? Hillis hell? Is that him right there? You heard me?

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Speaker 2: You got hey, listen, I'm looking at it. You gotta

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Speaker 2: be careful though, because you know I don't play that.

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Speaker 5: If that is that? Oh yoe so so so A.

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Speaker 5: I put him in a bi They could have put

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Speaker 1: No, that's that's a Benz. He driving bens a Bentley.

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Speaker 1: So they could have put it. So they ain't put it.

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Speaker 1: They ain't put him in. No, they ain't put him

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Speaker 1: in no hard dae. They ain't put him in no

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Speaker 1: super they ain't put him in nothing. They put him

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Speaker 1: in that damn.

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Speaker 5: Who's that? Hey?

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Speaker 3: And that's funny though, that's funny. That's funny. I like

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Speaker 3: I like Mike Man.

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Speaker 1: You beat a team for the first time in seven meetings.

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Speaker 1: It's your first time beating says twenty twenty two. M hm, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: And that's what you got. What's the Dolphins record? Have

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Speaker 1: a little fun Huh, you have a little fun. Hey,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, he just drives. He's just driving by.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know many most people that

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Speaker 1: are fanous, they ain't got their window down so you

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is Miami.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 5: What I know is that.

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Speaker 2: A down Hey listen, hey, down here in Miami, even

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Speaker 5: You hit me schedule, pull up the first the first

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Speaker 2: I got some coffee on I hit a wall. I

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Speaker 2: got some coffee. Now my baby, my baby doesn't see

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Speaker 2: me some coffee. We could be on the bitch at

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Speaker 5: Now I'm ready. We got uh.

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Speaker 1: We we pull up, we pull up. We're pulling. Uh,

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing one about I can tell

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Speaker 2: If the Dolphins played like they played against the goddamn Bills.

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Speaker 2: We'll run the god damn I'll tell you that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm very confident with that. I'm very common.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Uh, when they lost thirty three to eight to the

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Speaker 1: Coat he lived in that area? Did he ride through

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Speaker 1: you like Jazz mccrockett did. It's a yeah? So no,

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Speaker 1: my colleagues want me to ask you he said yes

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Patriots at home thirty three seven

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Speaker 1: thirty three twenty seven?

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Speaker 5: Did he do that then?

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Speaker 3: Now that he didn't do it, I didn't do it?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't do it that again?

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Speaker 5: Oh so what about the charger.

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Speaker 3: Over that eight? That was another one on Did he

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Speaker 5: Did?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: He had to go the other way.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, so he moved. He just moved in this area.

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Speaker 5: He just moved in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't got that, lady, Let mess your question.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 1: That when they lost twenty eight to six to Miami.

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Speaker 1: Did I mean did he drive slow homie? Did he

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Speaker 1: hull a Paul Wall? Did he drive slow home? Or

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Speaker 1: did he pull a wheel spill? For you know, summer time?

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Speaker 1: Two miles an hour was everybody's sees how much.

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Speaker 5: Much much time?

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Speaker 3: And that's what you know about that. I'm gonna sit

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Speaker 1: No, I think that, but that's a that's not his.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a I think the Brothers or somebody

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Speaker 3: Got they got they got the original.

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Speaker 5: Earth winding fire? Did the might have been earth winding fire?

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Speaker 5: Mm hm oh?

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Speaker 1: Everybody, even coaches doesn't got to be paidy now because

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Speaker 1: hold on, I think, didn't Sean Payton have the have

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Speaker 1: the bus drive through the city because that used to

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Speaker 1: be a thing to have the bus driver drive through

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Speaker 1: the drive around in the stadium for real.

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Speaker 3: That's funny.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know you know what I do? Like

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Speaker 5: you don't, you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't really get this some coaches sometimes I think players,

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Speaker 2: I know, I know it's players love what the broad

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Speaker 2: Street player rocky. Yeah, Sean Payton got that kind of person.

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Speaker 5: Man, See this is that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I would like, like we beat somebody, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: be careful, like you play the Raiders back with the

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Speaker 1: Raiders with Oakland.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, you ain't doing were you playing them?

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Speaker 2: Need to be the man. They're gonna throw a whole

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Speaker 5: It's cooling the game game twice some I think it's

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Speaker 5: called summer madness. That yeah, yeah, cooling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Joe, contrary to what you think a lot

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Speaker 1: of these songs that's being played that you really.

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Speaker 2: Really love, it's yours samples.

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Speaker 5: Okay, uh.

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Speaker 1: But not look oh ay any and it's Madden. So hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll put you in a Madden madded billy. They ain't

442
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 1: make it. They ain't make it regular black, white, blue.

443
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh jo, they got it Madden right, Oh my god,

444
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 2: hold on, I need I grabbing sugar.

445
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 1: Man said, hey, look, I'm fin to have some fun.

446
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: We finally got it. We finally got a win. After

447
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: hold on, how many losses we finally got a win?

448
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: Oh well, this's the one, two three. They had lost

449
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: four the last five.

450
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, we had we had we had we

451
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 5: had to had the stunt on them. But hey, I

452
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 5: got to try to have some fun. They gotta they

453
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 5: got a big game. What they of Spain?

454
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 1: They played, don't they played? They play the commanders, right,

455
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: they played the commanders in Spain. So, oh yeah, I

456
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: beat up. I leave my flight at eight eight in

457
00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: the morning. Hey, hey, what's what's what's splend splendor?

458
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: You ever heard of that?

459
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 5: Yeah? Most people have. Hm. Yeah, it's a uh, it's

460
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 5: a substitute. Wow, what's up? What's going on? None?

461
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: I got my coffee, but they send my coffee without

462
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: putting uh put the sugar. I ain't never seen no

463
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: splendor before. Most of the time I just get brown sugar,

464
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 2: white sugar. Yeah, what you know, Catholic gonna let you latte?

465
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 5: Okay? Sure?

466
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

467
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: So uh.

468
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 5: So you ain't got no problem. You ain't got no

469
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 5: problem with this.

470
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: Oh hell no, you know I'm you know, I'm pad

471
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm petty anyway, you know I'm petty. Even after when

472
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: even he listened and people people say, oh, y'all gotta

473
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: lose the record.

474
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: Well, we didn't lose a night, so I'm gonna have

475
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: some fun.

476
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: We didn't lose a night, and he he had Mike

477
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: McDaniel has the personality he does.

478
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely we got new video has emerged deron Pain punching

479
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Aman Ross Saint Brown. Okay, after this video, we well

480
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch. We can't show the video. I'm a

481
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: firm believer. God, y'all know who I am. I was

482
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: the strongest, and and and and and what I thought

483
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: dron Pain did was absolutely wrong. Dron Pain reached out

484
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: to me today on DM and he was very very respectful,

485
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna get to the to the specifics,

486
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: but but basically he said, O G, I appreciate you.

487
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 5: I love the way you played the game.

488
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: Everything that you was able to accomplish, you were great,

489
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: he said, But I didn't unprompt just unload on no boy.

490
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 5: And he said he sent me the video.

491
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: Since I was the strongest and my my critique of

492
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: dron Pain, let me be the loudest and say, bro,

493
00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry for judging you without knowing all

494
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: the facts, because all I know is what was shown

495
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: arm and Ross Saint Brown absolutely hit this man unprompted.

496
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: They were in a little shoving back and forth and

497
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: then he got a little quick win in on shoe.

498
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 5: You know how we do it a little thing. Nobody

499
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 5: look uncle Chicken Wing, Yes, Jabon kid Law.

500
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: I owe you an apology too, because you said he

501
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: did hit Duran Pain first, and we didn't. I didn't

502
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: believe you, so I want to apologize to you. But

503
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: the biggest apology goes to Dran Pain. And I'm glad

504
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: you did it because, like my grandma used to say,

505
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: I might not break I might not stop you, but

506
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: I damn sure break your habit. I guarantee you. Armand

507
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown was dead ass wrong, Duran Pain. You

508
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: should have see you don't get to do something to

509
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: somebody and didn't talk about that was an old reaction.

510
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: Keep your hands to yourself, you said. He told me.

511
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: Now, this is what armand Ross Saint Brown said Sunday

512
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: and Money before the video surface.

513
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 5: And say yeah he hit it because now he don't

514
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 5: have a leg to stand on. Ojo and Joe. He said,

515
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 5: you know, back and forth.

516
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: He didn't say nothing too crazy, but he never mentioned

517
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: the part that he hit Duran Pain in the face first.

518
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 5: That never came out of his mouth.

519
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: Duran Pain. I'm sorry, bro, I am so sorry. As

520
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: a man, I'm never and I've told you guys, y'all

521
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: heard me say this on Undisputed. I'm never gonna be

522
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: too big to say I'm sorry. I'm never gonna be

523
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: too prideful. I'm never gonna be too wealthy. I'm never

524
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna be anything where I can't say I'm sorry. I

525
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: was wrong, Duran paid, I was wrong. You should have

526
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: you should I wish you had knocked his ass out.

527
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa woa he keep your hands.

528
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Keep your hands to yourself, O, Joe. Your grandma told

529
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: you that. Your mom told you that, Joe, I know

530
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: you heard it because you from this till you from

531
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: the South look at Miami like the South like we

532
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: look at like we look at you like we look

533
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: at Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi or arg all those. Go Aheadjo, I.

534
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: Understand you're supposed to keep your hand to yourself. I understand.

535
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: So before you go with Joe, can I ask the

536
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: NFL what punishment are y'all gonna live against Arma Ross

537
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: Saint Brown.

538
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 5: I don't know.

539
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, but listen, you know the rules. You

540
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: know the rules, and they talk about it in meetings

541
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: before season starts, about getting angry. They always see the

542
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 2: second person that throws a punch. They always see the

543
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: second person that shoves every time. So I'm a rock

544
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: Brown is playing a game within the game. Understanding, Well,

545
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: hell on, I'm a chicken weaning. I'm a chicken weaning,

546
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 2: you know, and see if I can get him in

547
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: trouble real quick.

548
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 5: And it worked.

549
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: It worked, and he lost his temple. You know, the

550
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: game within the game. How can I get under somebody's

551
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: skin to get my team an advantage.

552
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 5: Now, it was wrong, Yes, it was wrong.

553
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 3: It was wrong.

554
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be the first to say it. But you

555
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: know it's it's it's trick. It's tricks in the trade.

556
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: Now you say you should have knocked him out. Now,

557
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't think that would have happened because they would

558
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: have had to jumped Ron.

559
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: Now, we don't want that to happen.

560
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 5: Now, they would have.

561
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: You said, he ain't know, You said no, nobody grabb

562
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: it when he slapped, when he slapped five from him,

563
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: the official standing right there, because.

564
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 5: Oh, your hair is the thing. You're absolutely right.

565
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Maybe let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe

566
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: and Joe the official didn't see it, but just like

567
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: they replayed it, and saw what Duran Duran Pain did.

568
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they replayed it and saw what Arman

569
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown did. Hey, so did they did they

570
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: find to suspend d Ran Pain? They suspended for one

571
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: game without pay?

572
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: Uh huh?

573
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 5: So they so now that they go back and look

574
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 5: at the tape, what's gonna happen? I'm on, Saint Brown.

575
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 5: I don't know, but.

576
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Something of fine should be levied. Keep your hands and

577
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: your feet to yourself. If you blocking me, I get that,

578
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: you payingcake me and step in my chest that, but

579
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: keep your hands to yourself, especially on that football field,

580
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: because I can do anything I want to and it's

581
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: not a crime. They might suspend me, they might throw

582
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: a penalty, but it's not a crime. Keep your hands

583
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: to yourself. I don't know what possessed him to do

584
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: what he did. That's a grown man. I don't know

585
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: if that Ron Payne has a wife. I don't know

586
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: if he has kids or anything. But keep your My

587
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: grandma used to always say, boy, keep your hands and

588
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: your feet to yourself. She say, boy, if somebody put

589
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: their hands or their feet on him, you do everything

590
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: you can to try to break them.

591
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: Hey, you heard what you just said? Right, Hey, hey, Joe,

592
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: I told you that story. I told you that story

593
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: were Ray knocked my himet off and hey, hey, were

594
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: you laughing, Joe?

595
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: Joe?

596
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: Why I was in the locker room looking for Ray

597
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: White and we we weren't even playing at home, we

598
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: were playing it.

599
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: That was two weeks later. You was unconscious. You don't

600
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: even remember when y'all looking for Ray. Two weeks later,

601
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: y'all was playing the Bills. Ray played for the d.

602
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: What sugar?

603
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, I would look a bit sugar after

604
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: that game.

605
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like, hold on, Joe, I will upset, right,

606
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, hold on that.

607
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: Me and Ray we prayed before the game. We go

608
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: over a script before every game, whether we're playing each

609
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: other or not.

610
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 8: You know, we like this your Yeah, we just said

611
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 8: a prayer before the game and we get in. We

612
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 8: get in the game, and now you act like you

613
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 8: don't know me, but we prayed.

614
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: You just try to knock my hammet off. Hold on,

615
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: my hamlet went.

616
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Flying by thirty yard, Joe, I said, he look, Joe,

617
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: you know in between them lines, ain't no friend.

618
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, list he probably prayed he don't.

619
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: He don't know, he don't really knock you knock you

620
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: out out, hey, But you gotta realize, do guys defensive

621
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: players go to a different place man?

622
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I wasn't in a different place after the

623
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: game because I was in your locker.

624
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 5: Room security ago.

625
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, Joe, Joe, they had to come get me

626
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: out the locker room. Joe, while you hit me, well,

627
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, but you don't do nothing like that. But

628
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: if if we do, Joe, you can't sit there and

629
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: say a prayer with me. We can't read the scripture,

630
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: and you go out there and try to kill me

631
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: on the field.

632
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: Can do that? Now? He was saying, Lord, forgive me

633
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 5: what I'm about to do to Joe. Lord.

634
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: I know I've come a long way and I'm trying

635
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: to do better in my life. But any saying that

636
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I commit on this field today, please forgive them a.

637
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe.

638
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: And the funny thing about it, Joe, is when when

639
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: people ask me who is your favorite team to go against,

640
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: it was always the race.

641
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: It was.

642
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: It was always the Ravens and the Steelers, Joe, because

643
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: one thing about it, I call it a two ten

644
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: strap game.

645
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: Joe.

646
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: You had that you got you had to bring two

647
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: ten strap to that goddamn game, joe.

648
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: Hey, and you had to get for sleeping night for

649
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: that game. And if Joey was hell, it was hell.

650
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: And I enjoyed it because you had no choice but

651
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: the razor level of play. You had no for the

652
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: raising level play. And then you got my crazy ass

653
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: who talked shit during the week and give everybody bullety

654
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: board material on purpose, you know. So, I mean there

655
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: was some of the some of the some of the

656
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: joyous time for me during them days. Man, I loved it, man,

657
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved great, great, I mean still

658
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: to this day.

659
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: Man.

660
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: Just being able to being able to see and and

661
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: stay in contact. That's why I like social media so much.

662
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: Most of the time, like you know, back in your days,

663
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: you kind of lose touch with everybody unless you go

664
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: to a certain event.

665
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: It make it so much easy, Joe, Man, it just

666
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

667
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: So, I don't know if Duran paint Duran, I don't

668
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: know if you're watching this, but I hope you get this.

669
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: I hope you hear it for yourself. But if somebody,

670
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: if you don't hear it for yourself, Hopefully someone close

671
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: to your family, friend or loved one gets you this

672
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: and let them and tell you Shannon Sharp did, and

673
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: it did. Indeed apologize because you were not wrong. You

674
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: were wrong for getting caught. You wasn't wrong for what

675
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: you did, because everybody keep the hand you grown out here.

676
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody until I to my knowledge, arm and Ross

677
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: Saint Brown ain't got no kids any damn sure, ain't

678
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: got no kids. Thirty thirty one years of age. Keep

679
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: your hands to yourself. Treated like the zoo with what

680
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: they tell you, Oh Joe, when you go to the zoo.

681
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 3: In your hands, hold on Animi's them, don't don't test nothing.

682
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: I tell him that matter of fact.

683
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Unless you catch the past or blockie keeping damn hands

684
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: in your pocket, give me a little fan with the

685
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: look the mother with your hand warmers. You won't because

686
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he did right, oh Joe. But see

687
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: the problem that I have is that he lied, and

688
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: he had everybody believing that he did absolutely nothing until

689
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: he got caught.

690
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: And then to I think it was today, he's like, yeah,

691
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: I kind of nudged you. It don't matter.

692
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: You don't get hold on you step on my foot

693
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: I say, oh, I ain't even really step on your

694
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: foot that hard.

695
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: You don't get to tell me how hard you stepped

696
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 5: on my foot. That's my foot. These feet made for

697
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: me to walk on, not you to.

698
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: Walk on him.

699
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Duran pay, I'm sorry.

700
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Javon Kenlaw, I'm sorry because you also came out and

701
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: said that he did hit him first, And I said, man,

702
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: that man ain't hit that man first. Oh y, yes,

703
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: saying oh yo, what likelihood of a wide receiver going

704
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: around sluck?

705
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: And he did it.

706
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: It don't matter how hard it was. It was the

707
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: mere fact that you did something that you didn't have

708
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: no business doing. And then he knocked fine from you

709
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: and you're talking about oh you know it. No, no, Duran,

710
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, And they should give you your money back. Yeah,

711
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: but I guarantee you I bet he won't hit another

712
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: d lineman.

713
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 5: In the face. What you want to bet o, Joe?

714
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, okay, okay.

715
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: One thing about his receivers were the we're the most

716
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: dominant position on the field, you know, whether.

717
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: We got the ball in the hands or not.

718
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: Here you go.

719
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. If I don't know, if anybody.

720
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 5: Saying that.

721
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: A lesson with a consequence of actually, with our consequences,

722
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: there is no lesson learning. Wait a minute, you know

723
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Joe without consequences, there is no lesson learned.

724
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, now they they He'm not fire from it. Yeah,

725
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: the NFL is gonna come down with something on Saint Brown.

726
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: No, no, they not many Listen, listen the NFL. The

727
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: NFL is already handicapped that. The NFL has already handicapped

728
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: the game a lot. They've already taken some of the words,

729
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: some worries, some of the character, you know, some of

730
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: the character away from the game and and what made it,

731
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: what made it fun, what made it exciting. Now, before

732
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: I keep going, I need you to give me that

733
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: line one more time.

734
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: Actions without consequences, there is no lesson learned.

735
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: That's good with Joe. I'm gonna use that one.

736
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: Ron Payne, you did right. You should have hit him

737
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: so hard on the top his head. He peeped out

738
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: his ribs and thought he.

739
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: Was in jail. He right, An, I ain't getting you

740
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 5: no more. I'm done for a minute.

741
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, bring that back one more time, Like a

742
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: DJ I.

743
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Said, d Ryan Payne should have hit him so hard

744
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: on the top of his head. He peep out of

745
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: his ribs and thank he in jail.

746
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 5: But you got it though. Yeah, yeah, I might not

747
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 5: stop that act, but I bet I break your the habit.

748
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: Okay, he doesn't drop two gems early, but the show

749
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: just started.

750
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Hold on, okay, Ojoe, he got abundan that he got

751
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: abundant him into when he when he when did you

752
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: see how fart swung back? Yes, sir, he swung back

753
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: from Prince George. Yeah, he got up under that. That's

754
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: what Joe, Joe. There wasn't there was the more cartoon slaps.

755
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: You want to save the cartoon? Yeah, and he was

756
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: pissed off.

757
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: He couldn't. He couldn't help it.

758
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely so, I don't have any problem after seeing

759
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: the video, after having him explain what happened, and he.

760
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: Said, O g I ain't just look, I ain't just

761
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: swing on. Old boy. He did what he did.

762
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: Send me the video. I tapped on it, looking at him.

763
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: They little hand fighting and then he tried to get

764
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: a quick win.

765
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: He yet, hey, little chicken man, I know what he

766
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: talking about. I used to I used to do it.

767
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: Too, and as aid, the press conference from Michael Pennick Jr.

768
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Is gone viral. O Joe, Let's take a listen to

769
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: what he had to say.

770
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 5: Mentally, I like my fiance.

771
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 6: She's always there for me, so I know whenever I

772
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 6: get home, it doesn't matter how I played, She's always

773
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 6: gonna be there for me. She's gonna have a smiler

774
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 6: face and give me a hug and make me feel

775
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 6: feel good no matter what. But as far as you know,

776
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 6: as far as like physically the on the field stuff,

777
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 6: it's not nobody that I'll talk to, like as far

778
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 6: as another quarterback or anything like that. You know, I

779
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 6: do have people reach out to me. I do have

780
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 6: quarterback coaches go back at home that that reach out

781
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: to me as well. You know, tell me, hey, like

782
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 6: you need to clean this up, clean that up, you know,

783
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 6: and everything would be good. So those guys help me

784
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 6: as far as that too, so I can shout out them.

785
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: You know, you know what, I would love to hear

786
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: the question that was asked.

787
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: I would love to hear the question that was asked

788
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: for better context, because I'm sure he has quarterback coaches

789
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: on the sideline. He had he had young he has

790
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: quarterback coaches on the sideline, and I'm sure they're talking

791
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: about the totality of after a game on what it

792
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 2: looked like. I think that that has to be the

793
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: contant of the question, because bringing up your fiance and

794
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: no matter how I played, when I come.

795
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: On, you know she's there for me.

796
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 5: No, am I am? I wrong? Am I wrong?

797
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: If I'm wrong?

798
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: Let me know what what do you say? What are

799
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 5: you saying about his fiance? Oh?

800
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: How how she said?

801
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: No matter how I played, that she's always there for

802
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: me when I come, when I come home, always smiling.

803
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: But if anything with the first thing your fiance is

804
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: voted to say, oh no, oh no, honey, you ain't

805
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: feeling embarrassed me like that.

806
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be no ke you laughing. It's supposed

807
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: to be tough love it got if you play bad,

808
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: she's supposed to be the first one.

809
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: Baby.

810
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: Come on, come come on, come on, r m P.

811
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: Come on, don't do that now. You know you can

812
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: play better than that.

813
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 5: You know you have your unk. No, don't, don't.

814
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: Don't have with them.

815
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Why they know how to break down that understand the game.

816
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: It can break it down for you. Oh my goodness

817
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: that now you're coming home with something like that, not

818
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: that old Oh baby, you played bad, it's okay. No,

819
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: honey is not okay.

820
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: You can't embarrass the family like that. You can't do that.

821
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: You can't embarrass the Pennock's last name like that.

822
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: Now I'm just throwing out hypotheticals, you know, not you

823
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: coming home and the wife no matter how you play.

824
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: Oh it's okay, No, it's you know, tough love is

825
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: okay sometimes and the best person to hear tough love

826
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: from is the one closest to you.

827
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm fuck. So they ask him what coaches that

828
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: he does he rely on lean on?

829
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, like who did?

830
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: Like okay, Oh, Joe, you going through a tough time,

831
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: is there's somebody that you lean on? Okay? Boom? I

832
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 5: like that.

833
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 2: I like that question because the first thing the coaches

834
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: that would lean on most of the time, it wouldn't

835
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: be my coach in Cincinnati if things aren't going right,

836
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: and it's someone I need to lean on now in game,

837
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Hugh Jackson, in game, you know, Alex, would you know

838
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: some of those coaches that there?

839
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: But if something is going right and I need. I

840
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 3: need to go back to the foundation on how it

841
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: was built.

842
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: Charles Collins nineteen ninety seven, when it all started, that

843
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: Santa Monica College running the sand Dude, the Manhattan sand

844
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: Duws back in the day.

845
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: Like, that's what That's what I'm leaning on. Um, that's

846
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: what I'm going to.

847
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: That's why when Michael Pennick said he mentioned coaches that,

848
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: okay with that question, that's what I'm leaning on. I'm

849
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: going back where it all started. Hey, coach man, what

850
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: you see. I don't know what's going on. You know,

851
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm doing it. I'm rushing, I'm just whatever it may be.

852
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Because he can see he can see it from a

853
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: different point of view than I can. He can see

854
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: it from a different point of view than my coaches do.

855
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Come a coaches, they see exit and those coach he

856
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: can see something they don't see even though they are

857
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: my receiver coaches.

858
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: And guess what coach c looking out for you, that

859
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: receiver coach, you got five other guys, six other guys

860
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: that he got a coach.

861
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And the conversation would be they view they

862
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: viewing me in a different lens. And what he's saying

863
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: that is correct. So I think people were like, no,

864
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: that's not what NFL coaches are there. You're not gonna

865
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: be able to rely on your coaches. So I know

866
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: you're always surprised that he said that.

867
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Well he can't go nope, no rah rah raheem got

868
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: fifty guys, sixty guys. He got to worry about that quarterback,

869
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: got that quarterback, coach, you got every Ain't nobody holding

870
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: your hand in the NFL.

871
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 5: They're not. So I'm talking.

872
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to, Hey, I don't. I don't want

873
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: to come off as callous. I don't want to come

874
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: off as not being empathetic. But I'm just telling you

875
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: the sports business, this is a grown man's business. You

876
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: get paid the Kings, Rams and to play a kid's game.

877
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: They're not holding your hand. So I understand what he's

878
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: saying that when somebody to lean on, I'm calling my

879
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: former coach. I'm gonna call my brother.

880
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. What do you see? Am I am? I am?

881
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: I missing something. I feel I'm leaving players out there,

882
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: but I don't know what I'm doing. Mm hmm, Hey,

883
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: send me a copy, let me let me, let me,

884
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: let me look at your practice. Let me see what

885
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: you Let me see what you look like in the game.

886
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: Send me, send me the game, cut up, send me practice,

887
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: let me see. Okay, So, uh, this is this is

888
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: the cold, harsh world. This has always been like this.

889
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is that this new generation

890
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: they think like it's high school and like, come on, son,

891
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: and the coach take you out to eat, put his

892
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: arm around you.

893
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, ain't none of that. Ain't none of that,

894
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: because listen that right there, that'll get you.

895
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: You lose your job. You you lose your job.

896
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Players get coaches fires if you're not playing up the

897
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: par depending on who you are, depending on what round

898
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: you went in, you know, depending on how much you're making.

899
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: They ain't no coddling, ain't no cold in the NFL.

900
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 3: Boy, This is this is this is business.

901
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: These are excell and those we going over exit and

902
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: those Wedday, thirty, Friday and Sunday.

903
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: We expect you to execute those exits. And o's.

904
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: Somebody said, somebody say he was your first round pick.

905
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: You don't want him succeed. How many first round picks

906
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: you think Atlanta got on their roster? So I guess

907
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: they're supposed to take him all out for brunch and breakfast.

908
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: Huhm, It don't work like that.

909
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: Uh, this is a different generation, oh, Joe, because this

910
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: house always been because the hair is the thing. This

911
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: is why in the military there's supposed to be no

912
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: fragnizer or higher up in subordinates, because there gonna be

913
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: certain times that you're gonna have to be like you know,

914
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: like what David did, and he put that basstiebe husband

915
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: in the front. But that was for a whole different reason,

916
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: because it clouds your judgment. See, you gotta be careful

917
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: when you call on a certain player because it's gonna

918
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: make it much more difficult to get offset player if

919
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: and when you need to. That's why coach coach Belichick,

920
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Heisman posed everybody. It was nothing for him to get

921
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: off a player. You know, Coach, you tell you that

922
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: long time. One of the most difficult thing it is

923
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: to do is cut a player. No that you built

924
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: up so much you're numb to it, especially if you're

925
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: coaching fifteen years old, Joe, and you gotta cut when

926
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: it players a year for fifteen years.

927
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 3: They numb to it. Now they pretend, they pretend about it.

928
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 2: The conversations they have for you when they ask you,

929
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: when they get that knock on your door, bring your playbook,

930
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: coach want to see you.

931
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 5: Man.

932
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: They got everything they probably said. They probably they probably

933
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: said the same thing everybody else. The only thing they

934
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: do they do different is they change the first name

935
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: when they greet you and let.

936
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: You know, Yes, this is tough. Everything you got to do.

937
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: This is the worst part of my job. Nor you.

938
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: You were really easy. But you know what I'm saying,

939
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm just being real. You know, this is the tough

940
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: part of my job that nobody likes to do. They

941
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: sit in their chair like this and hey, come on in.

942
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: How you do it's up?

943
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, you know, you just got caught up in

944
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: the the oh Joe, you know back, you just got

945
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 5: caught up in the number.

946
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: It's just one of the number my daddy or that

947
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: numbers game.

948
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: There's a possibility that we might now with the situation,

949
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: we might bring you back for the practice squad. But

950
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you an opportunity to go out there

951
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: and see what's side there. And you know, yeah, I'm

952
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: just telling you how it is. I'm just all the

953
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: way honist with you. Yeah, And because a lot of

954
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: times you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go

955
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut,

956
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: it's okay. No, it hurts because for a lot of

957
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: these guys, this the end of something that they've been

958
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: doing since they were seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven years old. Yeah,

959
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: so the end is never easy. Oh you're a good movie,

960
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: you man. You don't you don't want a good movie

961
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: to go out be like damn, that's it. Yeah mm hmm, yeah,

962
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: it's uh, it is tough. And having gone through that,

963
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: that's something that you didn't have to worry about being

964
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: a second round pick that I had to worry about

965
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: being a seventh round pick. And I remember you. I

966
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: remember like yesterday because we were stared at the Clarion Hotel,

967
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: uh by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes

968
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: come in at Centennial, and we're stared at the Clarity

969
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: And I'll never ever forget the phone rang, so you know,

970
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: oh yae, we got two rooms, one phone me. I

971
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: ain't answer it, like they don't know, like they can't

972
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: come over there and knock on the.

973
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 5: Door and say hey, hey, coach uh coach Reed want

974
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 5: to see you, right? And I remember phone ring. The

975
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 5: phone rang about three four times. I'm like, they know

976
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: we're in here. Oh ye where we go?

977
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: At you at? You ain't picking up?

978
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: Nah, you got to come. You gotta come fast? Picking

979
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: on pold dog. How would you give give me bad

980
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: news face to face? My roommate picked it up. After

981
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: a while, I see my door open. They got your boy. Man,

982
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: I say, damn, man, I'm sorry to hear that.

983
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 5: Bro.

984
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like man, he but you keep going, that's man

985
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: you name. As a matter we still I hadn't talked

986
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: to him. I mean I talked to him from time

987
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: to time.

988
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

989
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: He came to see me playing Denver. He came to

990
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: see he came back to see me playing Denver. He

991
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: came to see me playing Baltimore.

992
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 5: He came to the hall. Uh we we we we

993
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 5: We're still cool.

994
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: Be uh be mad. He'll tell you he called me.

995
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: He's still the only one that really called me double less.

996
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: But it was tough because you know, I was talking

997
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: about man, what I wanted to do and X, Y

998
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: and Z. But you know what, Joe, at that time,

999
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: I had the Mercedes. My brother said, Nah, leave a

1000
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: car home, don't nobody, He don't tell nobody you got it.

1001
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: Don't tell nobody you going up there. You're trying to

1002
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: make a team. You ain't got no car, Okay, but

1003
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's real. Ain't nobody, ain't no baby man,

1004
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: you mom, I told you I had that five bruce.

1005
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: I had a hole in my thigh in my quad.

1006
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: They don't care up about that. They trying to find

1007
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: the best fifty three damn players that can possibly find

1008
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: to make this team, and the and and the more

1009
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: you can do, the better your chances are. Oh, you

1010
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: not a starterist, You not to start the level starting defense?

1011
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: Or how many special teams can you play? Put me

1012
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: on kick return? I can play four to five, four

1013
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: to six. I can't play on P A T.

1014
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: And I can't play pat block a field goal block,

1015
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 5: but I can get you four of them. You ever

1016
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: tackled anybody? Yeah, I play. I tackled.

1017
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: I hadn't tackled anybody since high school. Well, interception, but

1018
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: I played defense in high school. Son, you gotta be

1019
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: tough to play, you gotta be played. Be tough, bro,

1020
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a squad. Tell me what you

1021
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: need me to do, Tell me what to tell me

1022
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: what my child. Tell me what my responsibility is. Once

1023
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: you tell me my responsibility, oh, I'm gonna carry that out.

1024
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 5: My brother.

1025
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: My brother used tell me all the time, he said,

1026
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: He say, bro, you do everything that you do better

1027
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: than anybody else, do what they do, and you'll be fine.

1028
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: So that was my my singular focus. Oh Joe, I'm

1029
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 5: gonna do what I do better than anybody else, do

1030
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 5: what they do.

1031
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: That's all that's all that come that's all they come

1032
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 3: down to.

1033
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: And uh uh but I lost oh Joe. I had

1034
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: lost contact with him for like.

1035
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: Man for like eight for like eight years, and then

1036
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Uh, he called the Broncos. They

1037
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: a uh, they said, some guy named Brian, Brian mcpatter.

1038
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: He tried to get in.

1039
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 5: Touch with you. I say, oh, I beat back. Yeah.

1040
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: I called him.

1041
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: I said, ma'am, what the hell you being? You know

1042
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: he went back and finished up school. Uh, and uh,

1043
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: you know, we we stayed in contact and we lost

1044
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: contact again.

1045
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 5: He hit me up.

1046
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Uh.

1047
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: I think he called the Ravens. It's like a Brian mcfather.

1048
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, huh, so I hit him up, brought

1049
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 5: him out to uh to be more.

1050
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: And you know, then when I went to the hall,

1051
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: I say, they are Jim Skamano, who was Uh, he's

1052
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: like anybody that you need me to find. So him

1053
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: he found them and found a couple of guys that

1054
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: I was trying to get in touch with. It.

1055
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 5: For the most part, the guys that came out, you know,

1056
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: I still knew where they were. Tried.

1057
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: I tried to get to touch the down the Lewis,

1058
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: but I couldn't find him. But because he was the

1059
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: guy that made me who I am. But guys, this

1060
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: is different. This is the NFL. This ain't high school

1061
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: where the coach gonna take your ass in, or this

1062
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: is college where they they get that ain't what they

1063
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: do at this level.

1064
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I ain't tell you what somebody told them.

1065
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 5: I'm telling you what I know.