1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome to a brand new episode of 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: The Daniel Cormier Show, brought to you by Total Wireless, 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: the official wireless provider of UFC. They're in your corner 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: with unlimited five G data that will not slow you down. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: And that is a total power move. You know what's 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: a power move? Having friends, friends that you can call 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: on to come and do a show like this, and 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: having friends that have accomplished a lot. My guest today 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: is one of the best banding weights in the world. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: He is Corey Sanhagen. Fought for the UFC Championship, has 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: had viral knockouts, He's won fights. He's honestly one of 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: the smartest guys in all the mixed martial arts. But 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: Corey keeps you sharp while he's joking. He doesn't smile, 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't laugh. He's one of the most genuine guys 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: you could meet in this game. But he's an absolute 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: killer when he's inside the octagon. He still has dreams 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: of becoming the UFC World Champion. We'll get into that. 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: We'll get into his upbringing and everything that makes Corey 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: Sanhagan Corey Sanhagen Today. I'm joined by the one and 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: only Corey's Hagan so much. 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Man. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: How you doing, my brother? 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm good. This chair is I think built for guys 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: like you and not for skinny guys like. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Well see I put that so last time. Last time, 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: I put a black pillow behind me and I had 28 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: a black shirt on. They go, DC, how big are you, bro? 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: You need a bigger pillow there it is? 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: What's up? 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: How you doing? 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm good, man, I'm good. You're a Colorado boy through 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: and through, born and raised. Yeah, yeah, you're sitting a 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: little more comfortable. Born in uh Aurora, Colorado. Colorado's a 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: beautiful place. But what was life like for you growing 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: up there as a kid. 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew up in the suburbs. I honestly it 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: was just like a normal Colorado suburban upbringing. I was 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: a totally normal kid. My parents traveled a lot for work, 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: so I was kind of all I did as a 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: kid was play sports. Growing up, I didn't that was 42 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: like my entire life. We were a sports family. I 43 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: grew up playing basketball, so that's why I spent a 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: lot of my time doing I was outside playing all 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: the time. We didn't really do like a lot of 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: natury stuff when I was a kid, but I would 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: like snowboard, ski, do a just like all the Colorado stuff. 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: You know, So when when your parents are traveling, like 49 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: who are you with? 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: We were at daycare a lot, and then my parents 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: had to kind of like alternate when they were around. 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: So like when my mom was traveling, my dad would 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: what did they do? They both worked for the post office, 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: but my mom did sales and then my dad was 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: a postal inspector. 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, so you do daycare and then they would 57 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: kind of alternate picking you up and everything. 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yeah, but yeah, it was totally normal. Man. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't really I was kind of an aggressive kid 60 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: growing up. I don't know where that came from, really, 61 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: but I was just that way. 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: You know, we've talked a lot about the influence your 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: parents have had on your life. Are you guys still 64 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 2: as close today? Yeah? 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: We're tight. Yeah, I mean I mean yeah, we Yeah, 66 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: we came a long way as a family growing up, 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: but yeah, we're we're real close. My mom loves fighting. 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: My dad's kind of My dad's on the older end. 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: He's like seventy four, seventy five, so he kind of 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: he'll still come to the fights, but there's a stint 71 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: there where he couldn't come just because he would get 72 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: so nervous and really yeah, he's just a little older too. 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: But my mom loves it. My mom would be like, 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: you see what this person said about you, like like 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: she's she's in all the MMA gossip and stuff. That's 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: why I get most of it. 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: How was uh, how was dealing with that? Right? Because 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: for a lot of boys, making their dad proud is 79 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: like the ultimate thing, right, But if it was making 80 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: your father like, you know, kind of like sick, how 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: hard was it to like be accomplishing all these great 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: things while knowing man, that's kind of messing with my 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: dad a little bit. 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little. So I wasn't forced to do anything 85 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: as a kid. What do you mean like we were. 86 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I was a sports kid because I wanted to, like 87 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: I did. I thought I was going to be in 88 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: the NBA. 89 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: That is just the craziest thing I got later in 90 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: the interview. But that is just the craziest thing that 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: you thought you were going to the NBA. 92 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so I knew I was short because I 93 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: grew up really small too. But there's this guy, Earl 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: Boykins who used to play No. 95 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, big Ol'd ears too. Yeah he get dunk though. 96 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah he was a good dumb Yeah. 97 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked all of the short players Alan Everson's. 98 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I liked all the guards, and I was like, I 99 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: could do that, you know, because I'm fast and all 100 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: of that. I thought I had it, But then it 101 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: took me to about sixteen seventeen to realize that that 102 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: probably wasn't happening. 103 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: But you said you weren't forced to do anything. 104 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: No, my parents let me do No. I was given 105 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: a lot of freedom. They They were never like, hey, 106 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: be good at this. Like I was never pushed, you know, 107 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: like my parents they just that's just not their style. 108 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: They just weren't like that. But I always worked real hard. 109 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: I think I got that from him. My grandparents are 110 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: from Ireland, so my grandparents came over immigrant family. My 111 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 1: mom grew up in Queens, New York, real real rough 112 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: like upbringing kind of and then she was just like 113 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: a tough lady and she made me tough. My dad's 114 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: kind of on the softer end. My dad grew up 115 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: in Iowa on a farm, and so I think I 116 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: just got like a real good work ethic from the 117 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: both of them. 118 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: Do you speak about that work ethic? How important was 119 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: seeing that, right, obviously they're sacrificing time with all the 120 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: travel and everything. How important was that in framing who 121 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: you became as a person, as a fighter and as 122 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: a person that works as hard as you do. 123 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: I think it almost made it better. I mean, everyone 124 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: kind of has their ways of becoming how they are, 125 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: and I don't really know how people work completely, but 126 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: I think because I was just given freedom to be 127 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: how I wanted to, I just developed my own that 128 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: you actually have. Like, what do you mean, Like. 129 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: You keep saying you had all this freedomly? 130 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: I mean they, I mean they just kind of they 131 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: were like, oh, you want to try that, this. 132 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Is your canvas pain as you see. 133 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. They let me be how I wanted 134 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: to be. They were like kind of okay with just me. 135 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Like they were just cool like that. You know, not 136 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of parents I know are like that. And 137 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: my parents were just cool like that. They just let 138 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: me be and explorer who I wanted to be. And 139 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: it kind of made me carve my own path and 140 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: it just made me kind of a little bit of 141 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: a free thinker and all that I think a little 142 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: bit too. And yeah, they were good parents. Man, I 143 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: have great parents. I'm really lucky. 144 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So what is that one thing specifically that you 145 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: saw from your parents that really did stick with you 146 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: as you're grown. 147 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean they worked hard, dude, Like both of them 148 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: worked real, real hard. My dad was a really sharp guy. 149 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: Me and my dad were really close growing up. Me 150 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: and my mom not as much. We're much closer now, 151 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, my dad was. Me and my dad were 152 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: real tight, but he wasn't like a hovering dad, he 153 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: kind of I remember me and him used to go 154 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: to church a lot, and we'd have conversations after church 155 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: about like, hey, do we really think that that is 156 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: true what they said? So I was kind of free 157 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: to like explore stuff in my own way. And yeah, 158 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: I remember me and my dad being really really close, 159 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: which is kind I almost say, like sad now because 160 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: my dad's getting a little older, you know what I mean, Yeah, 161 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: you want to be as close on to day, right, Yeah, 162 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean we are close. I'm definitely really nice to 163 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: him now, Like I'm like, damn, you know, like dad's 164 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: getting the old dude, I got you. I mean I 165 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: was a kid every every teenager is not nice to 166 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: their parents, right, Is that true? Were you nice to 167 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: all you? Bro? 168 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: I was the guy that my mom and dad. My 169 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: mom was like substitute teacher at times at my school. 170 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: My sister would I'm like, I run it up to 171 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: my mom. Every was like, yo, what what is wrong 172 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: with you? 173 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: That's like, I like my mom, Yeah that's cool. 174 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: You weren't like that? 175 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Not really? 176 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 2: We would you have done if your mom was walking 177 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: on campus as a substitute teacher. Dude? 178 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: If I could describe my mom to you, she wouldn't 179 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: even want me to run up to her and be really, 180 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's kind of hard. Oh yeah, she was tough, bro. 181 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean she grew up in Queens, New York, with 182 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Irish immigrant families that were raised in orphanages. You know 183 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? So my mom was, Yeah, she's a 184 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: tough lady. She made me tough. 185 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: Did did you U? Did your parents have an idea 186 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: that you would be something special they let you do? 187 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: No? 188 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: They had no. 189 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean I knew I was good at sports, like 190 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: I knew I was always better than most people at 191 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: doing anything athletic, But no, I mean I was little, dude, 192 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: and I think I went into high school I was 193 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: probably like four eight, four foot eight and then shot 194 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: up one year. But no, they I mean I thought 195 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: I had athletic dreams. But they didn't. You know, they didn't. 196 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: They didn't think, well it is, dude, but with a 197 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: cheering and screaming when you play in these basketball. 198 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Really they didn't. I mean they weren't. They weren't really 199 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: invested in it the way I was, you know, yeah, 200 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: just the way that we were. 201 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: You you talk about basketball. You think you could have 202 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: guarded me? 203 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: You me? 204 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: Yes? Do you think you could have guarded me? 205 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Could you have guarded me? 206 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: Yes? 207 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: No? 208 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Locking you down court? 209 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: No way, bro, no way. I was fast corey. You're 210 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: you look powerful, but I don't know you're fast too, 211 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: though I'm pretty fast. Can you shoot, dude? I can't shoot. 212 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: I am lights off with you. You know my producer 213 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: of Luise, I'd be busting his ass on the basketball court. Really, 214 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: we played three boys shootouts and I just be busting 215 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: his ass. You don't. 216 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't position court your guard? 217 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, guarden, he started m du Yeah. 218 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I actually, you know what, now that we're talking about it, 219 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: I do think that a piece of The reason why 220 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: I worked so hard at basketball is because the coach, 221 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: the coach's son, and me always competed for the starting spot, 222 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: and so I was always like second in like feeder 223 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: teams all the way through high school and everything, and 224 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta beat this guy in everything, 225 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: and so I made sure that I did. 226 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, what did fighting enter into your life? 227 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: When I was seventeen and I was I started watching 228 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: it on TV. I thought it was real cool, just 229 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: watching guys like Dominate Cruz, you'r Ayah Faber, Donald CERRONI, 230 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: all of those WC guys, although from way back in 231 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: the day, and I remember just falling in love with 232 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: the sport and just being like, I'm gonna try that. 233 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: And then when I did, it was a small pool. 234 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, what, what year did you start fighting? 235 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: I started fighting two thousand and nine? Yeah, okay, I 236 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: was like thirty two, I'm thirty one. I was gonna 237 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: turn I think I was thirty Yeah, I was about 238 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: to turn thirty one years old. 239 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I started in two thousand and nine and two. 240 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: So you know, at that time, it wasn't it wasn't 241 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: as big, it wasn't popular and the rooms like martial 242 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: arts gyms weren't like member gyms, Like you went to 243 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: martial arts to fight. 244 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: MMA to like fight. Yeah, when you first walked into 245 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: that gym, what are you thinking as a guy that's 246 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: a basketball player. 247 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be a lot worse at 248 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: it than I was, But then I realized I was like, Oh, 249 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm like I kind of have like a natural. I 250 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: remember we did a blue belt role off that for 251 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: like two weeks into me training and I got second place. 252 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: And I remember going home and telling my parents because 253 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: my parents didn't like that I did it, Like they 254 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: thought that I was like kind of working out issues 255 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: through fighting. So really, yeah, they didn't really like it, like. 256 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: Your parents are like those thinkers are, like, Corey, is 257 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: there anything you want to tell us? 258 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Like yeah, kind of really yeah kind of yeah, And 259 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, but I loved it just right 260 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: off the bat. I was obsessed with it and I 261 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: just had like a talent for it. 262 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: So do you think that's your brain? Like do you 263 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: think that you're like do you think that like you, 264 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: like you said you were obsessed with it, Like do 265 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: you have an obsessed with personality? Oh? 266 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. When I get into things, I get 267 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: really into them. I'm super obsessed with progress, like I 268 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: don't burn out. Like you know, training can get hard 269 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: and our nervous systems can get overwhelmed or whatever, but 270 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: I don't burn out because I still feel like I 271 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: got a ton to learn. And that's just always been 272 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: the case with me with this sport. 273 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: Is they Chris Wybman was mentioning a book It's called 274 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: a ten year Rule. They said, you can only do 275 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: something at a super high level for ten years. Do 276 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,239 Speaker 2: you think that because you didn't have that pressure from 277 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: your family and in the household, you were able to 278 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: apply yourself to basketball and now mixed martial arts without 279 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: really feeling it. Because even me as a young wrestler, 280 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: I didn't get pressure from my parents, but my coach 281 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 2: has put a lot of pressure on me. So then 282 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: there were times where I'm like, I don't know if 283 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: I want to wrestle anymore, and then I fell back 284 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: in love with it as I got older. But do 285 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: you believe in that a ten year rule that you 286 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: can actually compete at something or focus on something for 287 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: a decade and then you start to kind of drift 288 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: because you said you don't burn out now. 289 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: I've been doing it for sixteen years and I don't 290 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: feel that at all. Maybe a little, but not hardly 291 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: at all now really. Yeah, Like I'm obsessed with the 292 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: progress piece, man. I don't know if it's the way 293 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: my brain is wired or what, but I'm mega obsessed 294 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: with just being like, all right, this week, I need 295 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: to get better at this, and then you know, just 296 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: doing I've just been doing that. 297 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: What does that look like for you? 298 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Though? 299 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Like knowing that you're moving forward not getting stagnant because 300 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: you trained with Trevor Whitman, right, and you haven't jumped 301 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of gyms, you haven't mixed up a 302 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: whole bunch of partners, you haven't done so many things 303 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: to get a gauge? How do you measure that improvement 304 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: when the situation isn't changing much around you? 305 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: I just got really lucky with who and where. I 306 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: signed up at Nate Marquart's Jim when I started, and 307 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: then at the time Trevor also had his Jim Grudge, 308 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: which is where a ton of really good guys at. Yeah. 309 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: I just got really lucky, man. I just typed in 310 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: on Google, like, where do I do martial arts in 311 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Nate's Jim was just ten minutes from my house, and 312 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: so I just got really lucky. And so a lot 313 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: of it is that, like I just got really lucky 314 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: and who I got to train with and a lot 315 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: of who I am and the way that I think 316 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: is because of past coaches too, And I think, you know, 317 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: no one does anything completely on their own in life, 318 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: and I just got really lucky that I had really 319 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: good people helping me right off the bat. 320 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: Do you think there was a moment where when you're 321 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: in those gyms and you're learning mma, right, because it's 322 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: a lot of learning early, and you could that's when 323 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: you can see the improvements right now when you become 324 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: a world class fighter, when you're championship level, it's very incremental, right, 325 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: It's very small, small things where you improve. But in 326 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: those moments when you're early and you're really raw, you 327 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: see those big jumps. Was there a moment where you wait, 328 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: this is my path, Like this is the path, this 329 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: is what's gonna make me be what I want to 330 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: be in life. 331 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of. I didn't really have aspirations to be 332 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: a UFC champ. I feel like my entire life. I've 333 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: just done things that I think are super fun and 334 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: so that's just always what I've tried to do. And 335 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: it probably wasn't until other people started telling me that 336 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: I should fight and I should compete, and that I 337 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: could be really good and I could be a champ. 338 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: And like I said, it was coming from really high 339 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: level people, like it was coming from UFC fighters and 340 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: all of that. And they were telling me that, and 341 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, Like I guess I know 342 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: what they're talking about, So yes, do it, you know, And. 343 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: That's how you decided you wanted to fight professional. 344 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of got. I didn't like competition in 345 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: the beginning. 346 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: See, that's that's the thing. That's that's the thing that 347 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: most athletes have. It's just that burning desire to compete. 348 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: Like Bro, I would try to beat you in video games. 349 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: I try to beat you to pressing the elevator. If 350 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: we're walking somewhere together and sounds tiring, it makes you 351 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: and it makes us If it makes me very annoying. 352 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty annoying. 353 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: I know. 354 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like that because I don't want to 355 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: be annoying, but. 356 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: That annoying thing allowed me to go and accomplish all 357 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: these great things because I was always in competition. But 358 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: to hear you say, competition didn't come naturally for you, 359 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: like how do you fallster that? 360 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I had to learn how to love it, Like I 361 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: feel like everything you just have to learn how to love. 362 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Like you, we can trick ourselves into some crazy shit 363 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: as people, and I've tricked myself into just loving the 364 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: competition piece, and now I really love it. But like 365 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I said in the beginning, I just like training. I 366 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: like going into the gym getting better, being like cool, 367 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: I got good at this, and then that's just kind 368 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: of always how I saw it. Now I really like competing, 369 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Like I almost feel like I live for it my life. 370 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: I feel like the structure of it and my purpose 371 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: and goals and stuff. When they're not there, the structure 372 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: of my life gets crazy and it just feels chaotic 373 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: in my head and I hate it, which is kind 374 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: of where I am. Like anytime that you don't have 375 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: a fight, did you feel like that? 376 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 377 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, lost almost Yeah I just feel lost, and yeah, 378 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: so I don't like that feeling. So now I feel 379 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: like competition gives me like a ton of structure. 380 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: How are you dealing with that though? How are you 381 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: dealing with that feeling inside your mind? Where? So I 382 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: have a kid that was on my wrestling team and 383 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: he was like a little bit of a bad kid, 384 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: but the moment to see and started, he was so 385 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: locked in. I mean, he was perfect, but in the 386 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: moment it was over, he can be a bad kid again. 387 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I can relate to that. 388 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you deal with that in life? Now? 389 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: As a man? Right? You don't have this thing right, 390 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: you haven't fought for a while since you fall for 391 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: the belt. It's like you want to fight. How do 392 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: you deal with the thoughts in your mind? Of man? 393 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: My purpose feels. 394 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: Missing, probably not very healthy, maybe, like I have to 395 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: keep myself busy, like you guy, ask my wife. My 396 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: wife hates that my brain works the way that it works, 397 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: like I have to be doing something. TV doesn't do 398 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: it for me. Reading does because I'm kind of like 399 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: locked in on reading, like it's something that I have 400 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: to pay sit there and pay attention to. But I 401 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: have to just do a bunch of things, dude, or 402 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: else I'll get crazy. I like doing creative stuff. I 403 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: like writing. Now, that's kind of like one of my 404 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: bigger things that I'm really enjoying. I used to hike 405 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: a lot, I used to go to the gym a lot, 406 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: but I just have to keep myself busier else I 407 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: become an insane person. 408 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: What do you do? I righte say, what do you 409 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: do when you don't have those states? 410 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: I do? I just find something else to do. 411 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: He said, you become an insane person? Yeah, has it 412 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 2: ever happened? Well, he's just kind of like it's. 413 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Just like a lost feeling, you know. It's like a 414 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: It's not like insane in my behavior as much as 415 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: it's insane and just inside my head. I just feel chaotic. 416 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: I would feel sad like when I didn't have anything, 417 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: I would almost get like almost depressed. Right I needed 418 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: something to move me, And then when I didn't have that, 419 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: it almost felt like a sadness come move me. It 420 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: was very weird. 421 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird feeling for me. I don't really 422 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't really pay attention to my feelings a lot, 423 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: so I don't know that I necessarily feel sad or anything. 424 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I pay attention to my feelings, but I 425 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: don't give them too much attention. I'm like, oh, okay, 426 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm sad or I'm angry or I'm whatever today, but 427 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me. I'm just like, Oh, that's how 428 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I am today, you know, because we're weird, like people 429 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: are weird, Like for whatever reason, we have bad days 430 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: that feel sad or depressed or angry or whatever, and 431 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: I just don't pay attention to it. I'm like, Okay, 432 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: what do I gotta do today to get better at 433 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: fighting or get better at whatever it is? And I'm 434 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: trying to get better at. 435 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: Do you ever take do you ever take those days 436 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: while you're like, man, I don't really love the way 437 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: I'm going today. 438 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm a rest Yeah I do. I usually have one 439 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: day like that in training camp, because I do twelve 440 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: week camps, and I usually have one day where I'll 441 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: call the coaches and be like, guys, I cannot come 442 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: in today, Like I need a day to just sit 443 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: and just not really rest my body but just rest 444 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: my mind on stuff. And so I do get those days, 445 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: but they're kind of far in between. But yeah, I 446 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: don't know, man. I the more I kind of think 447 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: about it and the more that I reflect on a 448 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, I do think I try to be 449 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: normal because I think normal is inspiring. But I do 450 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: know I got something unique about me in the level 451 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: of push that I can do and the consistency of 452 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: push that I can do. I think I haven't seen 453 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: in a ton of other people. 454 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Do you worry? Do you worry that kind of putting 455 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: stuff away when it's trying to show itself. We'll come 456 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: up later in your life and you'd be like, I 457 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: have to deal with all those emotions because I do 458 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: that bad. I'm a comportmentalizing person, Like I'm the best 459 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: at it. I can be like super jacked up and go, ah, 460 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go to work today. Nothing nobody from 461 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: the outside will see that anything is bothering me because 462 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: I just don't want to feel that way today. 463 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying though, So you have that control 464 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: over yourself. Yeah, I think that sports teaches you that. 465 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: I think that sports teaches you how to or a 466 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: competition or a goal or some type of higher purpose 467 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, and all of us, I think it gives 468 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: us something to ignore our feelings about and still drive forward. 469 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: But they will show at some point. 470 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, Yeah. 471 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: They Corey, Corey, I'm telling you, they are going to come. 472 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: Why how did they come out for you? Like when 473 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: you push something down a bunch, what's what's it looked like? 474 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: When it comes out bad, it's bad? Okay. For example, 475 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: when I was when I was wrestling, when I was younger, obviously, 476 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: I lost a kid, a daughter, very young, and I 477 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: just suppressed it. And then I started going to practice 478 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: and I couldn't get through a practice without like bawling, 479 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: Like I could not get through anything that was hard 480 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: without like completely breaking down, because I needed to deal 481 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: with those things that were inside of me that just 482 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: were knocking, like, please let me out, let me out, 483 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: let me out. Then eventually I let it out. 484 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: And what it letting it out look like? 485 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: Though, crying and shit like. And then I went and 486 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: saw some I didn't so you was being a sports 487 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: psychologists and all kind of stuff to kind of learn 488 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: to deal with my emotions. And when it was time 489 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: to let it out. How have you dealt with your 490 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 2: loss to Morob, what did you do? 491 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: I just I just told myself I got to get 492 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: better man like onward, you know, like whether I win 493 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: or lose any fight, nothing changes on that Monday coming up. 494 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, it was just like all right, whether I 495 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: win or lose, I still got stuff to work on. Like, 496 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: I have a whole checklist going into every week or 497 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: every month of what it is that I got to 498 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: work on big time. And that's that's just that's literally 499 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: where I put all in my attention. Yeah yeah, but 500 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I don't know, I think that. Uh yeah, 501 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: I mean I've probably had to deal with some stuff 502 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: that I shoved down for a really long time, but 503 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: I think that sports helped me work through that still too. 504 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: You know, possibly plunging and kicking people is like a 505 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: release for. 506 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I never saw it like that. It was always a 507 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: sport to me. I don't like hurting people. 508 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: Really. 509 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I know that some people like hurting people, and 510 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: that's okay, you're in the right sport, you know, if 511 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: you're doing that. But I never got The only thing 512 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: I cared about was building skills. That's all that I 513 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: cared about. This is literally all that I cared about, 514 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: really yeah. Everything else I kind of was able to 515 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: just be like, whatever, that's just a feeling or whatever, 516 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: that's just this or that's just that. Everything for my 517 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: entire life has just been what do I got to 518 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: get better at today? And tomorrow Core. 519 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: Before you became a full time fighter, you worked in 520 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: a trauma center with kids. 521 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to work it was called Mount Saint Vincent's. 522 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: That place taught me a ton of stuff about myself. 523 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to maybe do social work when I was 524 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: growing up. I went to school for psychology, and I 525 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: kinda I grew up in so Aurora is kind of 526 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: a weird place because it's Colorado, but it's very diverse 527 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: in the types of people that you'll get, or at 528 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: least for Colorado. But I grew up with poor friends, 529 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: rich friends, you know, black, brown, white, all kinds of 530 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: different friends, and I remember everyone just coming from different places. 531 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: And we were not wealthy. We were like normal suburban 532 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: like both my parents worked for the government, so we 533 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: were never hungry or anything like that. But I had 534 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of friends that were like that, and I 535 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: always remember reflecting a lot of a lot of it too, 536 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: is just I think grown up religious too, and having 537 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: conversations with my dad about that and just reflecting on 538 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: like why do I not have to deal with what 539 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: my friend has to deal with, which were like really 540 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: heartbreaking stories. And I think that a part of me 541 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: wanting to go and do social work is because I 542 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: wanted to help all my old friends just be just 543 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: help them out, you know, because I feel like, compared 544 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: to them, I was very fortunate. 545 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: How did that like, how did that experience shape you? Well? 546 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: It taught me a lot about self awareness because the 547 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: kids that we would work with all came from very 548 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: traumatic pasts and we had to learn how to work 549 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: with them, which meant learning how like we operate. So 550 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: I remember when when I first started working there at 551 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty two. I remember being like, oh, so when this 552 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: kid starts wandering or starts being fidgety or something, he 553 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: has something inside of him going on. And I was like, 554 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: what do I do when I have something going on 555 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: inside of me? And then I just started building a 556 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: lot of self awareness. But I don't think I would 557 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: have been able to go down that path had it 558 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: not been for working at that place. So those I 559 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: owe that place in those kids, I feel like a 560 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: lot in just my like who I am. 561 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: Now that changes you when you see kids going through 562 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: hard times. Right, like you said, you were aware enough 563 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 2: as a kid to recognize the differences in life. In 564 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: our life at times can seem a bit unfair. But 565 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: you're already fighting. While you're not fighting full time, you're 566 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 2: fighting and working in this situation. Does that change a 567 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: little bit of the mentality when it comes to the 568 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: fighting and the approach, Like do you realize, like, man, 569 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: this is fighting and I could potentially make a boatload 570 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: of money in this or I could lose, But ultimately 571 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: it's not that. Yeah, it's not what these kids are 572 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: going through. 573 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: It was that. I think I had two major experiences 574 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: when I first started training that shaped me into like 575 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: full dedication and shaped me into being like I'm doing this. 576 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: When I was eighteen, I lost my best friend and 577 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: I remember that was like my first close experience with 578 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: losing someone that I really really loved and cared about 579 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot. And I remember being like, oh, so this 580 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: thing doesn't last forever, so life mean life, And I 581 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just gonna do I'm literally just gonna 582 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: do what makes me happy, regardless of what type of 583 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: situation it puts me in. And to address, could I 584 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: ask you what happened? Uh? Yeah, he I mean he 585 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: just just college stuff. He just got drunk and fell 586 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: on his you know, he fell and then he was 587 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: in ICU for a while. And he hit his head 588 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: hard enough to not be able to make it through. 589 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: So really, yeah, it was It was really tough on 590 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: all of us. His name was Ross. I'm still really 591 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: close with all of his family. But that was a 592 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: big thing for me at eighteen. That was a That's 593 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: a big thing for anyone to just be like, WHOA 594 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: death is real, you know, like that and then to 595 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: try to wrap your head around that for real is 596 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: sometimes very difficult. But yeah, it just kind of made 597 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: me be like, man, I'm not doing this bullshit that like, 598 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do some bullshit with my 599 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: life that I don't want to do, and I'm not 600 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna play by the rules that other people are playing 601 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: by because I'm going to do this thing the way 602 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: that i want to do, which is what makes me 603 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: a little weird too. 604 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: But which you know, WHOA I'm just saying, but does 605 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: it It would seem like pressure for you, you is 606 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: different than for most whenever you see life in the 607 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: way that you do, because most people can. 608 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: Get crushed by pressure. You don't come off as a 609 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: guy that will ever get crushed by pressure. 610 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: There's no way that you could hurt me like I 611 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 1: went on this whole. I don't even want to call 612 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: it a spiritual thing because I think that's corny. But 613 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: I did go through some years where I was like 614 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 1: just I was just I was just like, I'm just 615 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: going to do this thing how I want to do it, 616 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: and like the pressure all of that stuff, I was like, 617 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: I mean, who really cares anyways? You know what I mean? Like, 618 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 1: as I I've always believed in if I'm doing my best, 619 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I'll die a happy guy when I'm done with my career. 620 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: And I know that I put every single ounce of 621 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: everything into it. That's where what else can I do? 622 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: I can't do anything more than that. Yeah, and we 623 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: can't all be Lebron James. We can't all be kabeb 624 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not an undefeated guy and I've lost, and 625 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't hurt me, you know what I mean. 626 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: There was the same way that I think it maybe 627 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: hurts other people, just because that's not where I like 628 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: put my attention. I just put my attention in building 629 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: skills and trying. 630 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: Does your wife like this approach, because it would seem 631 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: like it would allow for a lot less stress, especially 632 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 2: going back into the house after the last fight. You 633 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: know what. I would lose a fight, I would literally 634 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: be in my room for like a month, and I 635 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: would put like black curtains over the windows and I 636 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: would just go morn. 637 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been there too, I mean I do. I 638 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: mean that that is a part of it also, But 639 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: that's just the body doing what the body is gonna do. 640 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: You know. That's just us really wanting something and then 641 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: the universe not giving it to us. And that can 642 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: like really hurt us sometimes. But once you kind of 643 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: snap out of that, because we do get hurt and 644 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: we do have feelings. But once you snap out of that, 645 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: it's like, oh okay, because there is a grieving process. 646 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: But if we were in control of it, we we 647 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: would move past it quick, you know. But it's not 648 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: in our you know, we don't get to decide some 649 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: things about it. 650 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: So many fighters rush to the Internet after they lose 651 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: because they want to feel better. They don't want to 652 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: sit in that sadness. I think it's the dumbest thing 653 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: in the world today. When you have Instagram, when you 654 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: lose a fight, how quickly do you visit Instagram? 655 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: When I lose I like a couple of weeks. I 656 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: won't read anything. 657 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: There's most fighters, especially young ones, on the way back 658 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: from the octagon, they go, tonight wasn't my night, but 659 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: I'll be back. You want to know why. I think 660 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: they do that because generally the people that are following you, 661 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: they want to support you. So what messages do they 662 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: get when just tonight just wasn't my night. You'll be back, champ. 663 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: We all still love it like that. That's why young 664 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: fighters do that. 665 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a really low I don't trust people 666 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: to like tell the truth most of the time. So 667 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't even like play with people's ideas about that 668 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: stuff because a lot of the time, like you said, 669 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: they're just trying to make me feel better anyway. 670 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: But that's what they want to do, right that that 671 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: because that that emotion feels like it's what you want 672 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: to hear. But in reality, you should separate yourself because 673 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: you should live in that to make sure that you're 674 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: not doing it over and over and over again. People 675 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: people do. Don't I made a mistake and I got caught. No, 676 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: you lost, most of the guy was better. 677 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my favorite thing after anyone loses is 678 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: especially on like the team or something, they'll come back 679 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: and they be like, oh, you know, it was something 680 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: mental or it was this, and it was that, and 681 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there are this whole thing is x's 682 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: and o's. You do the right thing at the right time, 683 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: you win. There's like mental x's and o's too, where 684 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: you got to think in a certain way and that 685 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: like will up your odds of winning and stuff. But 686 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: the a lot of the time it's not mental. It's like, dude, 687 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: that guy was just better than you and that's okay, 688 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: that's okay, that's okay. We literally can't all be Lebron James. 689 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: But you can try as hard as Lebron James and 690 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe you'll turn into Lebron James or you'll write a 691 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: better story than Lebron James. But you're not gonna be 692 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: able to do that if you don't get to work. 693 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 2: You know, you know, I've lost in some big spots 694 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: NCAA Finals, Olympic bronze medal match, Olympics of my finals, 695 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: John Jones fights DPA fight, But I'm like, whoa, what 696 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: if I didn't take my shot? Right? You can write 697 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: your story, and you can build a pretty nice story 698 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: even if you're not kel Sanderson are those guys right. 699 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: I don't think enough people take the chance on themselves 700 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: because people don't think big enough at times. But you 701 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: thought big, right. You take this thing and you say 702 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it the way I want to do it. 703 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: That leads to you being seven and one. You get 704 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: the call from the UFC. The you remember about that 705 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: first fight and what you felt like walking into the 706 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 2: octam Was it nerves? Was it fear? 707 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 1: What was more? 708 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: Were the feelings going through Cory sandagen On tonight? Yeah. 709 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: So by that time I had gone down that little 710 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: stint of like self exploration or spiritual whatever stuff where 711 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: I really sat down with my ego and I asked 712 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: myself where all of these things were coming from. And 713 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: I really, man, I really try to turn myself into 714 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: a person that just can't be hurt by the things 715 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: that life throws at me. Yeah. And so by that 716 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: time in the UFC, I was really good at being 717 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: really fearless. And I still carry that with me because 718 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: I know that like a loss will hurt and it 719 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: will suck, but it's not going to impact me, Like 720 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: it's not going to change the soul of me. So 721 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff is just like, whatever, you know, 722 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: just keep it moving. That's it. 723 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: How much that's obviously helped you because in big moments 724 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: you had to deal with some huge setbacks, Right. I 725 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: think back to the Aljemine Sterling fight. You won five 726 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: in a row. You're in this fight with title implications, right, 727 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: some people come into this thing with massive expectation. I 728 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: don't know if you were one of those guys. Yeah, 729 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: but a little bit, a little bit right, But when 730 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 2: you get on that to that spot and it doesn't 731 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 2: even feel like you get a chance to compete? How 732 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: hard was that? How difficult was that for Corcinning? 733 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one definitely hurt the most because. 734 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: It won. 735 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: It was the first one and two it was my 736 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: first time being finished, which was just not cool with me. 737 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 1: I reacted to that one, I think in a really 738 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: positive way in that I worked really really hard after 739 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: that one to like really dial in some things that 740 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: I just didn't know about. But a lot of losing too, 741 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: man is like oh I didn't know any better, you 742 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like how much of the guys 743 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: that you coach is like it's okay, man, Like you 744 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: just literally you just didn't know that move or you 745 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: just didn't know how to do that, and like how 746 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: much can you beat yourself up over that? And I 747 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: think that life sucks and this sport sucks a lot, 748 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: and you can either have a good attitude about it 749 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: or you can have like kind of a crummy attitude 750 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: about it. But regardless of what attitude you have about it, 751 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: it's still gonna come with its trials and it's still 752 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna come with it sucks. So to me, it's just 753 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna not let it impact I mean, it 754 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: does impact my joy, but it doesn't really touch me 755 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: as deep as you know it maybe hits other people. 756 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: You always talk about not feeling pressure. You don't feel pressure, 757 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: Like do you think that's helpful or hurtful in those 758 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: big spots like where you almost like you don't realize that, 759 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean there's pressure being a world champion, or you 760 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: ignore the pressure of being a world champion and then 761 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't work out. 762 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I acknowledge that it's important to me, 763 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people feel pressure because 764 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: they are afraid of external stuff. I still go into 765 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: a fight fully being like no I care, I personally 766 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: care about winning this fight A lot I personally care 767 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: about doing the best. But that's not that doesn't feel 768 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: like pressure. That feels like just me having you know, 769 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: it's time to hit a home run, like lock in 770 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: and try to hit the home run. It's not a 771 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: it's not like a, Oh, if I don't hit this 772 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: home run, so and so won't like me, or I 773 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: won't accomplish this amount of financial whatever, or I won't 774 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 1: accomplish this type of dream that I've had. It's it's 775 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: not that it's just like a it's just like an 776 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: acknowledgement that I really care about this, so I'm gonna 777 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: do this as best that I can. And that's you know. 778 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 2: When you, uh, you said something that said, I felt 779 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: like I got caught in the river current after that, 780 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: what what did that mean? Yeah? You said I felt 781 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: like I had caught in the river current. Nin you 782 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: ultimately came back into your own river. You said you 783 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: got back into your own river. What did you mean there? 784 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: Uh, that was a long time ago. I don't know 785 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: the context of it. 786 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: But if you hear that, what do you think like? 787 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: I probably got swept away with some of that pressure 788 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: stuff because I am a human being and every single 789 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: person goes through the pressure piece, and sometimes we get 790 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: swept away, especially nowadays, because everything's in our face and 791 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: I feel like the bar of what people want you 792 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: to accomplish is very, very high now because everyone's like 793 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: so accessible and everyone's showing off everything and all of 794 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: this stuff. So it feels very like it's just easy 795 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: to get caught up and swept away and external stuff. 796 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: But it's the nicest part about losing is remembering that no, no, no, 797 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: like this you're doing this for you. Yeah, it's a 798 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 1: nice feeling about. There's one of the few. 799 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 2: The next fight Frankie Edgar. Dude, you're fighting a former champion. 800 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: The next one was Marlon Moround Marlin. 801 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: But then when we get to Frankie Edgar, that's what 802 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: I want to get to Frankie. You get to Frankie Edgar, 803 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: a future Hall of Famer, former world champion, flying the 804 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: knockout bro That was one of the craziest knockouts of 805 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: all time. 806 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. 807 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 2: Was that something you practiced and said, Oh my god, 808 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 2: I know he's going to go forward and this is 809 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: going to happen, and how does it feel Whenever all 810 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: those thoughts really show themselves in the fight like. 811 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: That, Yeah, it felt good. I was kind of in yes, 812 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, if I'm being really honest, that fight 813 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: could have gone that way or it could have gone 814 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: a million other ways. It was not luck because it's 815 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: something that I definitely practiced. But to say that I 816 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: was fully in control of knocking Edgar out is it's 817 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: like it's two dance partners, it's me and him. So 818 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: he had a lot of saying that I just didn't 819 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: get lucky in landing that, but I just that's just 820 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: what happened in that fight, and it could have gone 821 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: a thousand different ways, and it went that way, and 822 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: that's great. And you roll the dice enough times, you'll 823 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: knock some people out too, you know. Like that's why 824 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't trip out after even like a not so 825 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: great win, is because it's like, oh, you know, like, 826 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: not all of this is totally all in my control. 827 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't get to go out and just starch people 828 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: and put them out and walk away the exact same 829 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: way that I want to. It's it's not up to me. 830 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's up to the universe and then and and 831 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: that's just how it is. So you just keep it moving. 832 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: Were you a little scared when he was like out 833 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: like that bad? It was bad? Were you a little scared? 834 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: Yeah? I was a little scared. And it was at 835 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: the apex it was dead quiet. It was dead quiet, dude, 836 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: it was I remember when I got done yelling because 837 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: I was celebrating and still really into it. I remember 838 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: being like, ah, shit, you know, like shit, his kids, 839 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: his kids saw that, Like, because I don't like hurting people. 840 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: This thing is a big giant sport to me, So 841 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: that that was sad. 842 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: How do you how do you deal with that, that 843 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: that that desire to not hurt people in a sport 844 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: that is as violent as anything in the world. 845 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think about it really. I mean, 846 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: he's all right, right, Like that's he's bad now, But 847 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: he didn't. Yeah, But that's what I mean is he's 848 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: all right now. It's not like anything severely damaging happened 849 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: to him. And also he that could have easily happened 850 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: to me too, So it's it's just and I would 851 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: have been all right, you know what I mean, It's 852 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: like we're not killing each other literally, so like you know, 853 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: anytime that anytime someone's gone through something really hard or 854 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: something bad happens or whatever. It's like, but did you die? 855 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: You know? 856 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah people say that all the time. 857 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, people said, but did you die? 858 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, could have? 859 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: What I'm trying what I'm trying to find pity, right. 860 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, why I kind of could have? 861 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: He maybe could have? Yeah, that would have been sad. 862 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: I probably would have quit after that real. 863 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I think most people would if something 864 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: like that happened. You fought some really high level competition. 865 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: How much have you grown in those moments, win or lose. 866 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've had to. That's the piece of 867 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: my career that I'm super pumped about is I've literally 868 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: had to get good at things that I maybe wouldn't 869 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: have wanted to get good at things, or maybe wouldn't 870 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: have if I wasn't fighting that level of competition. But 871 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm literally fighting some of the best fighters in the 872 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: entire world. That's why I had to become a good wrestlers, 873 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: because it's like, hey, Corey, like you could do this 874 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: striking stuff, but then you're gonna run into someone that's 875 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna be able to take you down and hold you down, 876 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: like Al Jamaine did, and that's not gonna be very fun. 877 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: And so it's like just fighting that caliber a person, 878 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: literally you either have to get better or you just 879 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: lose and your career is over. 880 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: But I mean, you are fighting the best at the best, 881 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: and even just sharing the octagon with those people, it's 882 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: like you feel yourself leveling up. 883 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 884 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: I remember after we left an Abu Dhabi when you 885 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 2: and Umar fought. Umar just could not sing your praises 886 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 2: anymore because of your abilities in who you are inside 887 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: the octagon. Corey, you speak a lot about mental right, 888 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: you talk about manifestation, you talk about visualization. Is that 889 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 2: a power move of yours in regards of you use 890 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: it against other fighters knowing that you have a mental 891 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: edge over most. 892 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: I think that all of the I think all of 893 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: the mental stuff just puts you in a better place 894 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: to where like the opportunity that you'll have to win 895 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: just gets higher. So it's not like there's no secret 896 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: sauce to any of this shit. Like you know, it's 897 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: just you win or you lose. And it's not like 898 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: because someone's doing X in training camp or training with 899 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: X in training camp, there is no secret sauce it's 900 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: it's you either win or you lose. And uh, but 901 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: I do think that believing in yourself, like, that's something 902 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: that I've kind of Trevor's helped me a lot with 903 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, is being like, hey, man, 904 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 1: you have to have like an unbreakable belief in yourself. 905 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: Where I thought confidence was just something that you just 906 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of like faked, you know, But Trevor's been helping 907 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: me believe, like truly believe, like, hey, no matter what happens, 908 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna win this fight, and telling myself that whether 909 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: it's a delusion or not doesn't matter. It still puts 910 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: me in a place in my mind that's gonna give 911 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: me the best chance at winning. So when I fought 912 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: Morob and I got dropped in the second round, that 913 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: if I didn't fully believe in my heart that I 914 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: was still gonna go win that fight that fight, he 915 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: could have finished me in round three, round four, whatever. 916 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: But I believed I was still winning that fight all 917 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: the way up until the very last bell. I didn't, 918 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,439 Speaker 1: so my belief was wrong, But I believe that that's 919 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: the reason that I was able to fight the rest 920 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: of that fight well. And not get finished or have 921 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: anything worse happen. 922 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: Are you a naturally confident person? 923 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, I think so. I don't know. 924 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: What do you think? Do you think I am? I 925 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: don't really know. Really, I don't know. I guess I 926 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: don't really know. I think confidence is like a confidence 927 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: isn't to me much of like an X and A. Oh, 928 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: so I don't care about it a ton. You know 929 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: there's one of my favorite. 930 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 2: Well, you you literally live in. 931 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: Do the right thing at the right time and you win. Yeah, 932 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: that's where I live. Do the right thing at the 933 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: right time and you win and be in a headspace 934 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: that's going to give you the best opportunity to win. 935 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: And that's all that I care about. 936 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: Mental How important is that to fighting though? Because I've 937 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 2: heard people say stuff like wrestling is ten percent physical 938 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 2: ninety percent mental. Do you buy into like mental is 939 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: more important than physical in a fight. 940 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: No, I think that they're both equally as important. If 941 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: you if you're mentally strong as shit, but you suck 942 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: like your skills suck like, doesn't matter. Yeah, you're gonna lose, 943 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: you know. Most of the time. Fighting is interesting though, 944 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: because and wrestling is really unique too, because you can 945 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: get someone tired and break them and then still win 946 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: and still win. So like, mental fortitude and mental toughness 947 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: is incredibly important in our sport in particular because we 948 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,720 Speaker 1: have one of the most exhausting sports in the entire world. Too. 949 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: Like football players, NBA players, I'm sure they get tired, 950 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: but they don't get tired like we get tired, you know, 951 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 1: So we have to be able to be strong enough 952 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: to still make good decisions under like incredibly high levels 953 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 1: of fatigue. So stress, and that's and that's like, that's 954 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: something that's really truly unique. And I do think that 955 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 1: fighting is way more mental in that regard than all 956 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 1: of the other sports. 957 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: Do you practice like meditation and mindfulness before fights? And 958 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 2: if so, what does that look like? 959 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to be present. What do I do? 960 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: I it's kind of it's just it's like transformed so 961 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: much through the years that it's kind of hard to describe. 962 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: But I do think, like like I said, man, I 963 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: think that putting yourself in a state of belief where 964 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna win and you'll do anything to win and 965 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: you totally buy into that with your heart, that's important, 966 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: you know, That's that's as important as being really technically skilled. Corey. 967 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: You Uh, the reason I was so drawn to you 968 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: is because your personality and humor. It's dry, yeah, but 969 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 2: it's it's very funny. Like I don't think I've laughed 970 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: more than that time we did that live stream. 971 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: You Uh, but you lie, man, Yeah, I'm a liar. 972 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 2: He was saying some crazy stuff. You said you were 973 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: homeless at one point, he did the only fans think. 974 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: But humor is a big part of Corey Sannyegen. Why 975 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 2: is it so important in a sport that's so violent 976 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: to have a sense of humor? And and uh, I 977 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: look at your threads and I'm like, what is he 978 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: talking about? 979 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: I just laying in bed thinking, dude, yeah, what what? 980 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: Why a sense of humor? And I feel like, because 981 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: this thing is an entertainment sport too, and you know that. 982 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: So I have to be like a something to people. 983 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,439 Speaker 1: And I don't want to be a douche. I don't 984 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: want to like come off negative and trash talkie and 985 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. So the way that I can 986 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: do those things, the way I can be unique in 987 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: a sport where it's kind of saturated with like macho 988 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: ness and talking shit and stuff is to be a 989 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,959 Speaker 1: lot more lighthearted and I'm tough too, like I'm rough 990 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: in my head too, Like I'm not like, oh this 991 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: is silly, you know, Like I still want to beat 992 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 1: up my opponents really bad, Like I don't, but I can. 993 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: But as far as like the personality of who people 994 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: have to fall in love with and build rapport around, 995 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: I'd rather than build rapport and some type of connection 996 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: with me through thinking that I'm funny versus thinking that 997 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm a dick. Yeah, yeah, for sure, because I could 998 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,479 Speaker 1: be a dick too. I definitely can be a dick, 999 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: you know. I don't want to show those sides of me. 1000 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: Corey. You recently called out Sean O'Malley for a fight, 1001 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 2: wanted to fight him at the White House or anywhere else. 1002 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 2: Why is Sean O'Malley right now? 1003 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: It's the only fight that makes sense for the both 1004 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: of us. One two, I like to fight. I know 1005 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: that I'll beat O'Malley, and I know that there's a 1006 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: lot of people that are like, oh, Cory's gonna take 1007 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: him down, He's gonna wrestle, Like, I'll out strike O'Malley too, 1008 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: So that one just bugs me and irks me that. 1009 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we got egos, like I know 1010 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: that I'm better than him, and I want to go 1011 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: beat him, and I want to prove that I'm the 1012 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: better striker, I'm the better fighter just all around in general. 1013 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: And that's why I want to fight him. And it 1014 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: makes the most sense right now. And I hate the 1015 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: way that he answers questions when he gets asked about me, 1016 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 1: because he said. 1017 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: He's never turned down a fight against you though never 1018 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: he said he's never been offered a fight against Corey 1019 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 2: Sanhagen that he said no to that. 1020 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: So is he blaming it on the UFC not want that. 1021 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,240 Speaker 2: Fight then, I don't know. I'm just telling you. 1022 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean because I'm asking for the fight. I don't 1023 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,439 Speaker 1: know that Sean. Sean's been on the record for being 1024 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: like this is a this is a business. To me, 1025 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: I want to take the easiest fight for the most 1026 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 1: amount of money. As a fan like Sean as a person, 1027 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to carry any hatred towards him or 1028 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: jealousy or anything like that. I like Sean as a person, 1029 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: I as a fan. I don't think the way that 1030 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: that type of character or whatever is interesting or inspiring 1031 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 1: at all. I think that one of the most biggest 1032 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: gifts that we have as athletes to give to people 1033 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: is inspiration to like, go do something cool with your 1034 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: life too. That means stepping up to the plate, taking 1035 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: big risks like I have in my entire career. I 1036 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: do it for me, but I also do it because 1037 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: inspiring and giving back. That's one of the few ways 1038 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: that I get to do that in this sport is 1039 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: by inspiring people. It's like, why would you take a 1040 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,800 Speaker 1: fight against Umar, He's done in the rings, But because 1041 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,919 Speaker 1: if I win, then I get to inspire a bunch 1042 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,280 Speaker 1: of people. If I go out and I beat Morob 1043 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: or I beat Yan or whatever, I get to inspire 1044 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of people because I know that I took 1045 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,479 Speaker 1: the hard road to get here. O'Malley's not about that life. 1046 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 1: So I can't be like a fan of that dude 1047 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: in that way. On a personal level, I think he's good. 1048 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: I think he's just a normal other human being trying 1049 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: to do his best in life, and he has his values. 1050 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,479 Speaker 1: But as like a fan, I just can't respect that much. 1051 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 2: Do you think that he's avoiding? 1052 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Matchell, why watch the way that he answers all 1053 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 1: of the questions. I don't know why. 1054 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 2: I honestly don't why because you name in the division 1055 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 2: as there is that. 1056 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: And it's the biggest fight. Neither one of us lose 1057 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: anything in that fight by fighting each other. If Sean 1058 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: in a worst case scenario for him, he goes out 1059 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: and he loses, he doesn't lose anything. Man, Like, I'm established, 1060 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm known as one of the best in the division, 1061 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: So why don't you want to fight? From from a 1062 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: perspective of my own, from his perspective, it's like, Corey 1063 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 1: is a tough fight. Why would I not? Why would 1064 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: I've take a tough fight when I could take it 1065 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: easier fight and make just as much money. That's like 1066 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: not the type of thinking that I walk around in 1067 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: life with. So we're just different and that's okay. But yeah, 1068 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: I definitely think he doesn't want that fight or else 1069 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: I think it'd be booked by now. 1070 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 2: Are you gonna keep staying on him to try to 1071 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 2: get it? 1072 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? Until Yeah, pretty much that's the fight to make. 1073 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 1: There's literally no other reason he's in the same spot 1074 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: as me. His fight against Song was not title like 1075 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: title worthy in my opinion. It was a slow fight 1076 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: song almost one. Sean did what he had to do, 1077 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: but it wasn't like he went out there trying to 1078 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: hit a home run. And when I go out and fight, 1079 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: I fight like the entire time, like that's something that 1080 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: you can't take from me. Like I'm gonna go out 1081 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna fight you hard. And I try 1082 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: really hard to to kind of pander a little bit 1083 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,399 Speaker 1: to the fans and to the UFC and being an 1084 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: exciting guy and taking more risks and just pressing people 1085 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,959 Speaker 1: and being in their face and being impossible to hold down, 1086 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: like I do all of that so that these things 1087 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: are exciting, fun to watch and it's cool, efficient looking 1088 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: martial arts and not everyone does that in the sport, 1089 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: and sometimes I do, if I'm being really honest, I 1090 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: do get a little bit jealous that other people maybe 1091 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,840 Speaker 1: get rewarded for not doing that where I know that 1092 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing, but that's just the way that 1093 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: I handle things and he does it differently. 1094 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: So before I let you go, when this thing's all 1095 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 2: sit and done and you retire, what do you want 1096 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 2: people to remember about Corey Senig. 1097 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: Now, he was one of the best champions to ever 1098 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: do it because he didn't give up. He had hard road, 1099 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: he took some losses, but he still got to wear gold. 1100 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: And in a worst case scenario, if I don't ever 1101 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: get to wear gold, I still hope that people get 1102 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: to look at my career and say, I can respect 1103 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: that dude because he didn't cut any corners. He did 1104 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: everything that he could, and whether the odds were in 1105 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: his favor or not, he still showed up and he 1106 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 1: still tried his best. 1107 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm okay with that. 1108 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: I could live with that. 1109 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 2: And either way, that's that's Corey san Haagen. You become 1110 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: the champ, you don't become the champ, You'll be Corey 1111 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,959 Speaker 2: because that's what you are. 1112 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: Right exactly. I'm the guy that just I took risks. 1113 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 1: I did everything that I could. I tried to make 1114 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: this thing as exciting for fans and for myself because 1115 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: I hate watching boring fights like I hate it, so 1116 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: I like to do it for myself too. I want 1117 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: to look back on my entire career and be like, damn, dude, 1118 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,959 Speaker 1: you performed really good. Yeah, like you were a great 1119 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: mind for the sport. You tactically did things really well, 1120 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: like I just want to go down as one of 1121 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: the greatest. That's always what I've wanted to do, and 1122 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: whether I do or not, that's up to the world's 1123 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: narrative about me. But to me, I know that I'll 1124 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: always have acted and been a champion in my heart, 1125 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: whether I get to wear gold or not. 1126 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 2: You're a man, you'd a man or Sanhagen, Guys, Corey Sanhagen, 1127 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: one of the smartest guys, well thought, tremendous fighter, tremendous person. 1128 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what you have next up 1129 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 2: because whatever it is, you guys know to be fun. 1130 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 2: Make sure you guys go tapping everything Corey's doing. Thank 1131 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 2: you again for joining me, Corey, and thank you guys 1132 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: for watching another episode of The Daniel Cormier Show. For 1133 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 2: Corey Santagan, I'm DC. Peace. 1134 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: Peace,