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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.

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Speaker 2: And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry.

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Speaker 1: No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, sib revelry.

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Speaker 2: That's good. I just got off my peloton. My mom

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Speaker 2: major health kick. I'm just trying for seven days a

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Speaker 2: week of cardio, forty five minutes a day, five days

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Speaker 2: of weights. My man David Allen Nutritions hooking me up

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Speaker 2: with supplements. I did blood work, I did stool samples,

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Speaker 2: I did spit, I did piss, I did it all.

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Speaker 2: Peptides are coming my way. I'm just trying to get

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Speaker 2: after it. Forty nine, moving into fifty. I think it's

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Speaker 2: time to see what I'm capable of, you know, instead

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Speaker 2: of this back and forth trying to be fifth and

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Speaker 2: just going on benders and eating shitty and drinking too much.

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Speaker 2: I'll never give up some of my vices, because that's

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Speaker 2: who i am. But it's time. So the peloton. My

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Speaker 2: boy Steve Zim is pumping me. I just iron pumps

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Speaker 2: all over the place. I'm gonna get I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: get this body scan, this full body scan, m or

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Speaker 2: I think at this place called Corveta. I'm just I

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Speaker 2: just gotta get it. I gotta get it going anyway.

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Speaker 2: I'm all sweaty, and I'm I've been leaving my lady

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Speaker 2: in the waiting room very excited to talk to her.

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Speaker 2: Not that I haven't talked to her a ton in

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Speaker 2: the last year. We've known each other for a long

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Speaker 2: ass time. I'm pretty sure she had a crush on me.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into that first off. And we

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Speaker 2: did a little bit of a and we did a

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Speaker 2: little movie together that she produced, and she stars in

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Speaker 2: Merry Little X Miss Sorry on Netflix. Check it out.

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Speaker 2: And it's a very sweet Christmas movie. Myself and Lisa

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Speaker 2: Silverstone and my son Wilder Hudson is in it as well.

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Speaker 2: But let's bring her in. Let's bring in Melissa Joan Hart.

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Speaker 3: Right, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I just got off my peloton.

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Speaker 3: I was like, did you just wake up?

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Speaker 2: Are you crazy? Of kids? You know, you wake up

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Speaker 2: at fucking six am, even when they're older. Now you

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Speaker 2: just wake up?

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Speaker 3: I oh, and you wake up earlier for some reason. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm in La. I just flew in last night. So

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Speaker 3: we woke up at like four am and like my

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Speaker 3: husband came with me for the screen tonight.

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Speaker 2: So I have fun. Were you in Nashville's Nashville?

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Speaker 3: We were in Nashville. We came here. Then I got

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Speaker 3: to go to New York, Philly in New Jersey in

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Speaker 3: the next few days.

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Speaker 2: So we're really yeah, work a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of all of it. We're going to an

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Speaker 3: Eagles game. I gotta go to do some press next

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Speaker 3: week for not only our movie, but also for some

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Speaker 3: brand stuff that I'm and some charity stuff and cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm heading to New York tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll probably just miss each other.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. Well, thanks for coming on. We

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Speaker 2: know each other for a minute now. Yeah, and let's

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Speaker 2: first talk about the crush that you had on me.

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Speaker 3: Oh, just right in, just right in, no segue, no.

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Speaker 2: Easy, you know, no of course not of course not no.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say it's all because of

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Speaker 3: your charm, but I feel like that intro was, uh

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Speaker 3: was lacking a little.

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Speaker 2: We just jump we just jump right in.

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Speaker 3: So it was right around here where I am on

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Speaker 3: Sunset Boulevard, I believe, where we ran into each other

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Speaker 3: at a few clubs, and I don't know how we

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Speaker 3: first met, but I remember there was like at least

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Speaker 3: one time when you were there and I had already

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Speaker 3: met you, so I felt comfortable enough going up and

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Speaker 3: saying Hi. It was so weird because I'm not I

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Speaker 3: talk a lot, I don't get shy, I don't not

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Speaker 3: have the words to say, and there was something you

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Speaker 3: just like I don't know, you like looked at me

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Speaker 3: and I said something ridiculous and then I like backed

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Speaker 3: it up with something more. I wish I remember what

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Speaker 3: I said, but it's one of those moments where you're

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Speaker 3: like I put my foot in my mouth and made

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Speaker 3: an absolutely ridiculous comment that didn't even make sense, and

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Speaker 3: then backed it was something more ridiculous, and I was

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Speaker 3: so embarrassed, and I felt like I couldn't recover and

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Speaker 3: I just like walked away horrified. And ever since then,

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Speaker 3: I've been like, oh my god, what is it about

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Speaker 3: you that made me like get tongue tied and like weird.

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Speaker 3: Like my brain just rotted for a second.

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Speaker 2: And I missed those days.

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Speaker 3: It was so funny, and I was so nervous working

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Speaker 3: with you on this because I was like I think.

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Speaker 3: I even told my hairdresser. I was like, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what I'm going to say to him, Like the

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Speaker 3: last thing I said to him was absolute ridiculous. Maybe

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Speaker 3: he remembers what it was, being actually fool of myself.

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Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't remember, but he might. And then

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Speaker 3: if he does, and I like, what if it happens again,

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Speaker 3: then I can't talk to him on set.

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Speaker 2: Funny, and then you realize that an idiot I am,

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Speaker 2: and then you're perfect, Well, this is fun. I'm so

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Speaker 2: excited for this movie that we got to do together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was such a blast working with my son especially

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Speaker 2: and seeing everyone just recently again you know for press.

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Speaker 2: Truly what a what a fun ass time we had,

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Speaker 2: I mean really really, really really fun.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was so exciting to see you on set.

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Speaker 3: I've told some reporters this so far, and I'll continue

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Speaker 3: to praise you as far as like your son, and like,

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Speaker 3: watching you be a stage dad was so like, I

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Speaker 3: mean that if if women like you know, fall down

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Speaker 3: at your knees and get silly around you already, like

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Speaker 3: just watching you be a good dad is even sexier.

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Speaker 3: And then like watching you like be a stage dad

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Speaker 3: and like being nervous for your son but that want

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Speaker 3: to help him, and like I remember you in your

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Speaker 3: big puffy coat on set being like I just have

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Speaker 3: to be like I don't even work today, I just

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Speaker 3: have to be here because a wilder and yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know in that moment of like, because I know I

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Speaker 3: would be the same way if my kids were on

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Speaker 3: set without me, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my our first day of work, I wasn't working,

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Speaker 2: but I was his chaperone and father, you know, which

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Speaker 2: was so trippy. It was so crazy that you've never yeah,

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Speaker 2: and we've been doing this for so long, you especially,

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Speaker 2: you know you've been acting long before me. But to

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Speaker 2: watch your kid sort of you know, immerse himself for herself,

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Speaker 2: whoever it is, into your world. Yeah, whatever occupation that

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Speaker 2: you're in, and if you take pride in what you do,

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Speaker 2: and then your child, your kid is now there with

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Speaker 2: where you get introspective and you're looking at your boy

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Speaker 2: is happening, and you completely get filled with emotion. You

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Speaker 2: know that happens so much so that alone, I mean,

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Speaker 2: was just so special for me because who knows that

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Speaker 2: that will ever happen again, you know, And.

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Speaker 3: I was asking I remember asking you because I was

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Speaker 3: thinking put myself in your shoes. Like my kids have

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Speaker 3: been on set with me for like little tiny parts

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Speaker 3: on my TV show or something when we needed a

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Speaker 3: baby or a little kid to run through or someone

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Speaker 3: to say one line. But I'd never been on a

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Speaker 3: a sense, like like on their own. And I remember

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Speaker 3: asking you, like, you know, is this something you want

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Speaker 3: would be like flu like frustrated between like should my

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Speaker 3: know that in your case, it's like you guys are

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Speaker 3: like legacy, Like there's a lot of legacy there, But

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Speaker 3: I feel like I don't know, Like I would feel

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Speaker 3: like i'd be like torn between, like yeah, they're really

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Speaker 3: good at it, but I don't want them to go

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Speaker 2: It is a great question, you know, because it's a

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Speaker 2: relevant question. My mom with my sister was not going

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Speaker 2: to let her do anything in film or TV until

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Speaker 2: she finished high school and was eighteen. She could do

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Speaker 2: plays and she could you know, work on her craft

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Speaker 2: and do all that. And believe me, she was offered

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Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities in that time. But I think

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Speaker 2: instinctively Mom kind of knew that, you know what the

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Speaker 2: thought the same thing. But I do think it's child

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Speaker 2: to child. Yeah, Wilder had this opportunity. He's seventeen, he

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Speaker 2: was mature. I felt like, first of all, there was

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Speaker 2: he had never auditioned. I'm just do this audition for experience.

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Speaker 2: He ended up getting having this opportunity to do it,

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Speaker 2: and he did it, and it was okay because I

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Speaker 2: didn't think I knew as the kind of person that

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Speaker 2: he is. He's not going to go off the rails.

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Speaker 2: He's not all of a sudden going to get green

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Speaker 2: Dollar signed contacts and Bleach's hair blonde and start flipping

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Speaker 3: Wait, did I not see that on Instagram last night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well yeah, it's coming. But even body, my middle one,

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Speaker 2: when he was ten, he did a pilot with me,

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Speaker 2: you know, as a series regular, and it was kind

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Speaker 2: of the same thing, and I was going away against

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Speaker 2: what I thought how I thought I would parent my

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Speaker 2: kids as far as this industry goes. Now that being said,

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Speaker 2: my little baby go Rio. There's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a different thing with her, you know, at least that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm feeling, you know. I mean, she did this

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Speaker 2: red carpet for Happy Gilmour two with me, and it

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Speaker 2: was she like blew up, not blew up, but in

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Speaker 2: a sense. You know, I was getting calls because she's

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Speaker 2: on thing. She looked beautiful and she was so full

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Speaker 2: of personality. And we get calls from you know, various

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Speaker 2: big age, big companies to like being commercials and model

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Speaker 2: and one was a movie to like potentially you know,

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Speaker 2: play Lolita or some shit. And I'm like, okay, no,

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Speaker 2: this is not happening. We're slowing this way down. Didn't

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Speaker 2: even tell her about it, you know, but she is twelve, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the age when they start to want

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Speaker 3: it right. And I feel like, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: And how old were you, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was four when I started. But we didn't know,

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Speaker 3: we didn't know what the industry was like, we didn't

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Speaker 3: know what it was.

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Speaker 2: My mom.

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Speaker 3: So my story starts with Romper Room. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: the show Romper Room when we were kids.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And miss Marianne I think her name was had the

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Speaker 3: Magic Mirror and at the end she would say the names,

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Speaker 3: and she never said Melissa. It wasn't a popular name.

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Speaker 3: So I did the math. I was about four years

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Speaker 3: old and I did the math and I went, Oh,

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Speaker 3: she's saying the names of the kids that are sitting

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Speaker 3: in front of her. I need to get on that show.

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Speaker 3: So she'll say Melissa in the mirror like for all Melisses.

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Speaker 3: Like I need to do this for all Melissa's right, right.

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Speaker 3: And I told my mom, I said I need to

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Speaker 2: So this whole career, this whole career, if you're stemmed

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I mean, especially back then,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I got paid probably more for national commercials

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Speaker 2: Do you think your parents ever stole your money from you?

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Speaker 3: No, not stole, no, but I think that we did need.

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Speaker 2: We did. I'm only asking because you know, Wilder made

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Speaker 3: Nice. This is why we have Coogan accounts now. And

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, no, for sure. Well let's go back into

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Speaker 3: I understand sibling revelry.

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Speaker 3: My parents were hippies, ye grow in their own garden.

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Speaker 3: My mom would go get goat's milk for my sister

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Speaker 2: I know that's cool too. By the way, this I

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Speaker 3: She can grow her own the way she grows algae

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Then eleven to twelfth grade, I ended up being tutored.

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Speaker 2: La That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: She was pregnant with her seventh at that point.

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Speaker 2: That is insane. So you have a real blended mixed

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Speaker 3: She's the one who's the oyster farmer. But Tricia and

435
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 3: I were very close. And Tricia and I both were

436
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: big hams and we liked to we were the actors.

437
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 3: But a lot of the time in the auditions, I

438
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 3: would book it and she wouldn't. Did do one tile

439
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: and all commercial together, and we did did a few

440
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 3: other things. I did it like a Jello pudding commercial

441
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: with Bill Cosby, and my sister was like my backup,

442
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: so so you know, and she was working here and there,

443
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 3: but not as much as I was, and so she

444
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 3: kind of designated her own thing. She ended up going

445
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: to the Bronx High School of Science and she became

446
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 3: the smart one. I was the talent, wanted one. Lizzie

447
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: I think she's like self titled herself the weird one. Emily,

448
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: my mom I think called her the pretty one. And

449
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: then my brother, of course, was the boy. So it

450
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 3: was like we all had like our lane.

451
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: Wow. But was there jealousy there because you were sort

452
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: of booking and she wasn't.

453
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: No, No, you'd have to ask her. I think she would

454
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 3: say no. I think that she decided she needed to

455
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 3: find her own path and academics were her thing. That's

456
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: what she wanted to excel at. She wanted to be

457
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: the smart one. She wanted to learn and absorb it all.

458
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: And she was the first one in our family to

459
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: go to college all the way through. I went to

460
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 3: NYU but never graduated, So she was the first one

461
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 3: to go all the way through. And she's still no.

462
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 3: My sister Emily, the fifth one, she also went all

463
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: the way through college and so and then I have

464
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 3: two that are still in college. They still they're like

465
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: on their third masters. But yeah, So Tricia was like

466
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: the one who wanted to be the smart one, and

467
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: she became a school teacher in New York City and

468
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: so she took academics very seriously and that became her path.

469
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: So when did you move to La? When did that happen?

470
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: That was only with Sabrina, So Sabrina, we didn't even

471
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: do a pilot, right, we just went right to series.

472
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: How old were you? I was twenty because you're twenty

473
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: of the oldest.

474
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: That means I was never a teenager playing a teenager, which.

475
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 2: I know exactly. Did your whole family move out?

476
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 3: Pretty much? My mom took all yeah, all five?

477
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: So what was that like? I mean, that's uprooting obviously,

478
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: and it's because of you. And was there any kind

479
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: of well, I don't want to fucking leave, you know,

480
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: I mean, this is my home, this is Melissa's thing.

481
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: We'd been moved around a little bit because we'd already

482
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: moved to men when I was twelve, so they were ten, eight,

483
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: four and two, So we moved to Manhattan. Then when

484
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: my mom remarried, we moved to Jersey for like two years,

485
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: and then we moved to LA. So I feel like

486
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 3: we had been kind of kind of moved around. But

487
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: we also kept our house in Jersey, so we sort

488
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: of had that. My dad still lived in my childhood home,

489
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 3: so we still had that. So we still had like

490
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: these roots, but all five of us moved to la

491
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: and at first, I think we all really liked it.

492
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: You know, we for the first time making real money,

493
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: and I had my own apartment, I got a BMW,

494
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 3: I went. I had a chief at Toyota before that,

495
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: and now I had a a red BMW convertible driving

496
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 3: down Laurel Canyon, you know, and I my boyfriend at

497
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 3: the time, was like, you have to if you're gonna

498
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 3: have a BMW, you have to have a stick shift,

499
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: you know. So I'm learning stick on all these freaking canyons.

500
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: And then they all were kind of happy out here

501
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: in school for a little while, and then kind of

502
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: one by one they all moved back east. So whether

503
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 3: it is yeah, whether it was like you know, they

504
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: just kind of were, we all liked it out here

505
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: at first. I think the weather. I think the excitement

506
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: of LA. I think the fact that we had my

507
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: mom had bought this or rented a big house, and

508
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 3: I was in my own condo, and you know, we're

509
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: kind of like living this life. And I'm in an

510
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: adult now so I don't have to go to school,

511
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, when I worked Before it

512
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: was always balancing school and work, which was really really difficult.

513
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: So this is now a time when I can just work,

514
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 3: and I also am in scenes. The difference between my

515
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: show Clarissa and my show Sabrina, which I'm going to

516
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 3: assume people have not seen Clarissa, is I'm giving like

517
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: four page monologues four times an episode, so I would

518
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 3: have to start learning those on Sunday to deliver on Wednesday.

519
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: We would shoot our show. We'd rehearse Monday Tuesday, and

520
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: we'd shoot our show Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. But that was Clarissa,

521
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: and I mean I was learning these lines. These scenes

522
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 3: were ten pages long as we shot them like they

523
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: were live television. We only had We had four cameras

524
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: and only one was isolated, which means only one was

525
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: recording the whole time. So if the switcher or the

526
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 3: director and switch at the right time, we had to

527
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 3: redo the whole scene and it would be ten page

528
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 3: scenes of like me and another person. So it was

529
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.

530
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 3: And sometimes I turn to the camera and give.

531
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: A full monologue to the camera.

532
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm also in high school and I'm doing

533
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: the SATs and I'm applying to college and it was

534
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 3: just overwhelming.

535
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: Well wait, hold on, let's go back Clarissa. I I

536
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: what was Clozra about. I don't even know.

537
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: Clarissa was a show on Nickelodeon. Was one of the

538
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: first kind of sitcom shows, Nicole that wasn't like a

539
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: game show, and it was about a girl and her

540
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: sibling rivalry with her brother. In fact, I had to

541
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: say the word sibling rivalry so many times. There were

542
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: so many bloopers. It was in the middle of a

543
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: monologue and I would say sibling rivalry every single freaking take,

544
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: and I'd have to go back and start the whole

545
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: four page monologue again. So there's like me cursing and

546
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: looking at the script supervisor going, yeah, sibling rivalry, sibling rivalry.

547
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: I can say it. I just can't say it when

548
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: I had to say it in the script. It was

549
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: a lot and it was a lot of pressure, but

550
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: it it taught me a lot. And then I go

551
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: to do Sabrina right, yeah, yeah, and I'm twenty and

552
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: I don't have high school and I'm in like two

553
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: page scenes with five people and I have to deliver

554
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: three lines and I was like, this is freaking awesome,

555
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: and I like, I can wait for some other people

556
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: to say some stuff. I enter late, I come into

557
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: the room and I say two lines and I leave,

558
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: and like, what is this magic? What is this wonderfulness?

559
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: And I can go out at night, have two Gin

560
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 3: and Tonics at Dublins, and then head back to work

561
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: at five am.

562
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Great Dublins, Dublins, Dublins.

563
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm like right next door to it right now.

564
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: That's so funny. It's still easy to get caught up

565
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: in the whole la scene. But you were in it,

566
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: but you were moderate, right you You really like kept

567
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: it together.

568
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: I mean, i'd like to think so we didn't have

569
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 3: social media to say differently, but yeah, but I think

570
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: being the oldest of so many siblings, I was so responsible,

571
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: Like I was, you know, changing diapers from the time

572
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: I was four years old. You know, like I feel

573
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: like I always wanted them to look at me. I

574
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: didn't want to do anything that would embarrass them or

575
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: hurt them or you know. So even when I did

576
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: Maxim magazine once and my brother was pretty young, he

577
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: was like in middle school or high school, and I

578
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: did Maxim magazine and he and my father were both

579
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: being tortured by people at work. Go and look at

580
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: your daughter, look a look at your sister. And then

581
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: Playboy magazine came and asked me to do something and

582
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't do it. I can't do it,

583
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: and they offered me a lot of money, and I

584
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: was like, I can't do it because I don't want

585
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: my brother to be hurt by that, like the last

586
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: thing he needs. He's already getting tortured by me and underwear,

587
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: let alone completely. And I would have been willing to

588
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 3: do it because I was like, I'm not ashamed of

589
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: my body. I'm proud of my body. I'm fine with that.

590
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: But then I'm really glad I didn't because now I

591
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: have three boys and I don't need those images out

592
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: there for them, I know, I know, so kind of

593
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: happy I made that choice for my brother, which then

594
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: also translates to my children. And I always kind of

595
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: knew that that would be a correlation that someday I

596
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: would have children that would you know, what do I

597
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: want them to see? And I kind of played that

598
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: through my siblings' eyes, so, you know, I feel like

599
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: I also was raised by these hippie parents who were

600
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: growing their own pot in the garden, and my mom

601
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: once told me, she was like, you know, I did

602
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 3: all the drugs. You don't have to. They're that they're

603
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: not worth it. And I was like, okay, great, that

604
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: sounds like I like that, Like I take your word

605
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: for that. I don't need it. And I was sort

606
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: of like I trusted my mom. We had a really

607
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: good because we were only nineteen years apart, and I

608
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, there's this well almost exactly twenty

609
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: years apart, and I'm like there was this like kind

610
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: of raising each other in a way of like she

611
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: took me out to dance clubs all the time, but

612
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to drink, and you know, she we'd

613
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: go to all these clubs in New York and LA

614
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: and you know, and we would party together and we

615
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: would go on especially once we started doing Sabrina. We

616
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: we would go out to like Paris for a girl's

617
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: weekend with all my sisters and do these fun things.

618
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: But it was never it was never it was never

619
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: surrounded by like drugs and alcohol. It was like, let's

620
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: go dance, let's go have fun. You know. It wasn't

621
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: about spending money. It wasn't about fame. It wasn't about

622
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: any of that like for me. And that's why I think,

623
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: like going back to like our kids being in the industry,

624
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: For me, I know that my kids only the only

625
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 3: time they've ever expressed interest in the industry is when

626
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: they think it's going to make them rich and famous.

627
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: And I'm reading Matthew Perry's book right now, and I'm like,

628
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: that's all he wanted was to be famous, right, and

629
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: it caused so many of his problem Like he's very

630
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: insecure and he just wanted fame. And I'm like, if

631
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: you're just reaching for fame, that's not the right reason

632
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: to do this. Because he comes and it goes, and

633
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 3: it comes and it goes and it comes and it goes,

634
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: and you got to ride that ride and people love

635
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: you and they hate you, and you have to figure

636
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: out what you believe. Like I feel like I always

637
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: felt like if I believe the good stuff that people

638
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: say about me, then I have to believe the bad

639
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: stuff too. So I just choose not to listen to

640
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: compliments or you know, or any kind of like bad stuff.

641
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: I just I just try to gauge and the character

642
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: Clarissa that show was really helpful in she was like

643
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: a nonconformist, tough girl who did the right thing, but

644
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: also what she wanted to do was very strong and passionate.

645
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: And it taught me at a young age that I

646
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: could be that way, that I could hold to my

647
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: beliefs and my values and not and kind of be

648
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: unapologetic about it, but also be kind and gracious to everybody.

649
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: Like mm hmmm, So yeah, that's what I wanted, you know,

650
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: And that's that's what I and that's what I want

651
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: for my kids.

652
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: It was fun to watch you work because you had

653
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: to wear two hats in this movie that we did,

654
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, where the actor and doing your shit there

655
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: and then the producer where sometimes it was like hold

656
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: on you guys, no, this is not happening. We need

657
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: to do this, this, and this, you know, and you

658
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: showed your power and in a good way, and you

659
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: had to put that hat on. Yeah. I was like, oh,

660
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: that's a tricky one because you don't want to alienate

661
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: yourself from anybody because you are part of the crew,

662
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: part of the acting, part of the troop. At the

663
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: same time you're like, you, guys, we got to speed

664
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: this shit up. Like, come on, let's go.

665
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: There was I mean, I I got into directing and

666
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: producing a little bit, but especially directing for efficiency, and

667
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: it makes me crazy when things aren't efficient, and because

668
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 3: this industry can be so wasteful in time and money

669
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: in everything, and so I really try to look at

670
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: that and make sure we're using our time the best

671
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: of our ability and getting the best story. And it

672
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: was really tricky. This is the first time I've really

673
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: kind of just produced something and wasn't number one on

674
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: the call sheet or wasn't direct. So I felt like

675
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: I was like, how much am I allowed to say?

676
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: How much am I allowed to influence? How much am

677
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: I allowed to you know, like, or how much do

678
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: I want it? How much? You know, when will people

679
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: just shut me down and not listen? So I tried

680
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 3: to pick my battles, but it was a tough one.

681
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: It was hard to know that balance for sure.

682
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you deal with fame? Did you give

683
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: a shit about it? Or were you like whatever? Or

684
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: I you know, I mean at such a young.

685
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: Age, you know, what I liked was getting into the

686
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: clubs right in my early twenties, Like being able to

687
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: walk in the club.

688
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that was.

689
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: The only place I really saw it, or getting to

690
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: go to premiers, like when Romeo and Juliette came out

691
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: and we were just in our first season A Sabrina,

692
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 3: I was like, can I go to that? One of

693
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: my co stars was like she had lived in la

694
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: and she was like, I want to go to that premiere.

695
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: Can you ask for publicist? I was like, oh, is

696
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: that something we can do? And I was like, Hey,

697
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: can we go to see Romeo and juliet And they

698
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: were like, yeah, sure, you want tickets. I was like, oh,

699
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: I can go see any movie I want, like with

700
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: the stars of the movie. That's fun. So I would

701
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: use it for that. In Disney World like that was

702
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: where I used my fame, right and getting some cool

703
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: clothes yeah.

704
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then just the recognition, you know, street

705
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: recognition on that. Yeah you were cool, You're cool, you

706
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: were cool with all that. It never bothered you. It

707
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: was never kind of like god, like, I know, I

708
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: love being in this business, but this side of it,

709
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm not. Don't love or you do love or you know.

710
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: New York was like walk in the streets of New York.

711
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: When I was doing theater, nobody knew who I will

712
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: walk in the streets of New York. When I did Clarissa,

713
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: a few people would recognize me and I'd be like, oh,

714
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: you watch Nickelodeon. I'm sorry. Like I was actually like

715
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 3: kind of like embarrassed by that. But then because I'm like, oh,

716
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: I'm on a kids show. You know, I'm like sixteen seventeen,

717
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm on a kids show. That's weird.

718
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: But then moving to LA I feel like nobody here

719
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: really unless you went to Rodeo or the Ivy or something,

720
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: you know, Like I feel like I was just with

721
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: everybody else, like I was constantly with the that seventies

722
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: show cast, or you know, I was kind of like

723
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: at events with other people that were you know, famous

724
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: also or more famous or you know. So I feel

725
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: like it was I still had a little bit of

726
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: imposter syndrome of like, will they let me in the

727
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: club tonight? I don't know. I never thought that the

728
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: show was as big as it was. Even though I

729
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: knew people liked it, I didn't know. I didn't know

730
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: what I had there.

731
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, how many how many seasons did it run?

732
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: We did seven seasons on eight what we did four

733
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: seasons on ABC and three on wb.

734
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Right and then so you were late twenties when it.

735
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: Ended, Yeah, twenty seven and married twenty seven, about to

736
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: be married. Then I started having babies in two thousand

737
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 3: and three, unmarried in two thousand and six and half

738
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: a baby. And as soon as he turns one, I

739
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: go to Canada and I do this movie called Holiday

740
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: and Handcuffs with Mario Lopez and it was a Christmas

741
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: movie for ABC Family and it was one of the first,

742
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: I want to say, the first Christmas TV movie, and

743
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: it was such a huge success. I still get told

744
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 3: all the time that it's like the number one It

745
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: was for many many years the number one rated Christmas

746
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: TV movie, and for like probably a decade, And it

747
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: kind of started the genre of Christmas movies that then

748
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: became Hallmark in Lifefetime and ABC Family which still does

749
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: free Form and now Netflix now We're a movie, you know,

750
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: So it kind of launched this new genre of holiday movies.

751
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: But the thing about Holiday and Handcuffs is it was

752
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: really funny. It was like stupid funny, Like it's one

753
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: of the only things I will watch that I'm in

754
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: because it was just so ridiculous. I kidnapped Mario Lopez,

755
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: bring him out to a log cabin and try to

756
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: convince my family that he's my boyfriend. But he's not,

757
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: you know, but he doesn't know where he is. I've

758
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: taken his sell phone. He he doesn't know how to

759
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: get out of the cabin. And I basically kidnapped this guy.

760
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 3: And it's really cute, really sweet, really stupid, really funny,

761
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: and I just got to be over the top and

762
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 3: have so much fun with it. So then I wanted

763
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: to do another one, and I did one called My

764
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 3: Fake Fiance for ABC Family. And these are like big

765
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: money making movies. Yeah, yeah, you know now we do

766
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: them for like pennies, like compared to what. But then

767
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: I did a show because of the movie. I did

768
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: My Fake Fiance with Joey Lawrence. We decided to kind

769
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: of kind of riff off that and we did a

770
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: show called Melissa Joey on ABC Family for five years.

771
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: And in that time, I'm having babies. I have three

772
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: kids at this, you know, in the middle of Melissa

773
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: and Joey, I have my third baby. And yeah, and

774
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: I had so much fun with that show. But mean,

775
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: while I'm raising my kids in Connecticut, but shooting a

776
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 3: show in la and then when that ended, I took

777
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: a nice break, came back to Netflix for a show

778
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: called No Good Nick with Sean Aston and some incredible

779
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: young talent, and got to play the mom for the

780
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: first time ever. Wow, I know I was already like

781
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: forty two when I'm playing a mom for the first time.

782
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: Ah No, but you've always been that, like a hustler,

783
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: just meaning like just keep hustling it up, but also

784
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: having babies doing your thing at the same time. I mean,

785
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: that's such a huge sacrifice. I guess you we as actors,

786
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: do have to make. But you know what point is

787
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: it kind of not worth it where you are doing

788
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: me Listen and Joey, your kids are in Connecticut. You're

789
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: not seeing them as much as you know you should,

790
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: or being around as their mom. And it's like, you

791
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: know what, I'm okay with money, I got it, Everything's fine.

792
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: I need to be a fucking mother.

793
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: It was really tough. It was a really tough decision.

794
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: But I thought we had just moved to Connecticut when

795
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: I did Dance with Stars and then we backed the

796
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: pilot onto that for Melissa and Joey and I was like,

797
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: but we still moved because I was like, who knows,

798
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: it's a pilot that's happening in December, it would go

799
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: next August. I'm not going to put all my eggs

800
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: in that basket. So we moved the family to Connecticut,

801
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: and I thought it was best for them to sleep

802
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: in their bed and go to school and have like

803
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: this is where their roots are. I'll bounce in and out.

804
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: I'll be sad, but they'll be okay. But now looking back, well,

805
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: and then I had my third baby and we all

806
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: moved back to LA for a little while. So we

807
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: moved back to LA for a few years. And then

808
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: when I was doing No Good Nick for Netflix, we

809
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: were living in our house in Lake Tahoe and I

810
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 3: was traveling back and forth. So there's been a lot

811
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: of like push and pull. But what I like about

812
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: this business for us is that and for my family

813
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: is that it's really like I can be all in

814
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: as a full time mom, and then I'm all in

815
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: as an actor when I leave and I go on

816
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: a project, like we're in Toronto for six weeks and

817
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: it's like I'm here, I'm in Toronto and I'm working

818
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: and then I go home. But there's an end in

819
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: sight too. I don't know if I do like a

820
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: job where it's like year after year going to the

821
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: same office, Like yeah, like the end of it, and

822
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 3: then I'm like full time mom. But I'm always looking

823
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: for the next thing. What's the next job? What am I?

824
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: But I'm enjoying my time at home and going to

825
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 3: every you know, class party or you know, getting them

826
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: ready for homecoming or all that stuff.

827
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think setting an example for your kids

828
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: as well, you know, I think, you know, even subconsciously,

829
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, mom's gone, but she's working, she's

830
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: doing her thing, and she comes back and she's present

831
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: and in love and it's you know, it's you know,

832
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: I think that's important as well.

833
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: Try I hope they notice it later on. I don't

834
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: know that teenage boys really get it yet.

835
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh we oh my god, I know, we don't know.

836
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: Who knows. Hopefully they come around in their twenties and like,

837
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: I really have an epiphany. I realize how amazing you

838
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: really are. I know, I trust trust me, Like, where

839
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: is that kid that would not let me out of

840
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: his room because he wanted to cuddle so much?

841
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: I know. My kid won't even sit on the same

842
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: couch with me. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, dude,

843
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: there's like three spaces between. I said, here much football? No? No,

844
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: why did you say so clues? I mean I definitely

845
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: have pouties, that's for sure.

846
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: Well, and then it's like, you know what, five years

847
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: ago you were all over me. You were in my bed,

848
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: cuddling me, like don't leave and snuggled. What happened?

849
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: This is what Mark and I had to recently come

850
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: to grips with. We were like, why am I like

851
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: needing you so much? More? Like why weren't we like

852
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: this before? Because now we're like holding hands all time,

853
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: we lean on each other, We're constantly all over each other,

854
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: and we're like, what changed in twenty two years of marriage?

855
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: And like, oh, the kids were all over us and

856
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: we were like ugh, like I need a little space,

857
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: And now we're like the kids don't want us anymore,

858
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: so we're like all over each other.

859
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I know it's so true. And all I

860
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: can do is hope that that shifts. I think it will.

861
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Everyone says it does.

862
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: Because Wilder's your oldest right, Yeah, and he's he's I

863
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: see him like, I mean, I don't know if it

864
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 3: was only because on set he was like needed daddy,

865
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: but like.

866
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's there, it's there, it's there.

867
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeh yeah. My nineteen year old is like all about

868
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: he's willing to hug me, tells me he loves me,

869
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: all those things again, right when the thirteen year old

870
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: is like uh ah, and I'm like, you were always

871
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: the one that told me you'd always love me, that

872
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: you were gonna marry me and all these things, and

873
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: he's like, what are you talking about? And they're all

874
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 3: taller than me, like my Christmas card. We just did

875
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: the pictures and like they're all five eight and above,

876
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what has happened?

877
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: Like that's so funny.

878
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, I know it changes so quick, but like

879
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: I do, I do have to say, the nineteen year

880
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: old has come back around. The seventeen year old is

881
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: pretty sweet. He recognizes like sometimes he'll be like grossed

882
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: out by me, but then other times you'd like he'll

883
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: call me and be like sorry about that, I love

884
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: you like that.

885
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, of course, you just have to understand this

886
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: is what they are, what they're going through and they're individuating.

887
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: It's what we all did. Yeah, so how did you

888
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: get into producing?

889
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: It was Sabrina. We got the comic book and brought it.

890
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: To Oh, so you were a producer from that?

891
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: From the producer from the time I was twenty yeah,

892
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty and and then I was always just finding projects.

893
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: What about these Christmas movies and stuff? Did you? Were

894
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: you able to produce those as well?

895
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: So all of them just not Holiday and not the

896
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: first one Holiday and Handcuffs that when I was a h

897
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: actor for hire, but the rest of them we produced them.

898
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: That's the only way I really wanted to make those

899
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: Christmas movies was being in complete control, finding the project,

900
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: casting it and having fun with it that way, and

901
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: then directing, Like I directed a lot of Sabrina, but

902
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: it was really hard for me to get into directing

903
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: anything I wasn't in Like I could say, like the

904
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: very first Christmas movie I actually produced was because I

905
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: directed it, but I promised them I'd take a small

906
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: part in it, but I really wanted to be the director.

907
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: So I'll take a part in this, but I want

908
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: to be the director. And so that's how I started

909
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: directing Christmas movies, and then I directed Angelica Houston in

910
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: a remake of The Watcher in the Woods, which was

911
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: a Betty Davis scary movie from the eighties.

912
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: That's cool.

913
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: It was a movie I loved. It. Took us seventeen

914
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 3: years to get the rights from Disney, and so then

915
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 3: when we did it, Angelica Houston played the part of

916
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: Betty Davis and we shot it in Wales and that

917
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: was wonderful. That was like twenty seventeen. And then in

918
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 3: like during COVID, I was directing three movies. That's and

919
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: then I started directing other people's television shows, which was

920
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: really fun. I was shooting, I was going back and

921
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: forth between multicam and single cam. I was doing Young Sheldon,

922
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: I was directing The Goldbergs, I was directing School, I

923
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: directed I Carly a few other Netflix of their family shows.

924
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 3: So I had so much fun, like twenty eighteen through

925
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three directing a ton so great and so

926
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: that was really fun. And then the last three years, honestly,

927
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 3: I've been working on this movie. I'm Mary Little Xmas.

928
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know.

929
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: I've spent the last like three years really hungering down

930
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 3: on this one. And some other projects I've got going on.

931
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: I start.

932
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: I transitioned from Christmas movies myself doing them, myself really

933
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: being in them, to doing true crime stuff. So that's

934
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: been really I never trusted myself with drama since my

935
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: Broadway days because I became a sitcom girl and so

936
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I don't like crying, I don't

937
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: feel like I'm good at this. Didn't trust myself with it,

938
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: especially when I did an episode of Law and Order

939
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: SVU and I was like, oh, I suck at this.

940
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: So I that's when I did Melissa and Joey. I

941
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: was like, I need more comedy in my life.

942
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: I got to go back, how did you get this?

943
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: So the direct thing? Did you direct Sabrina? Was that

944
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: your first?

945
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? I got my DGA card on Sabrina. I did

946
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: some of our bigger episodes, like our Halloween episodes, in

947
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: our hundredth episode, and again going back to our earlier conversation,

948
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: was all about efficiency for me. I wanted to make

949
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: sure that show was so difficult because we did shoot it.

950
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: Like Clarissa, we rehearsed Monday Tuesday, and like a usual sitcomony,

951
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: we rehearsed for four days and shoot on the well,

952
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: shoot on the fourth and fifth we shot. We rehearsed

953
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: on Monday and did a run through. We rehearsed on

954
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 3: Tuesday and did a run through, and then we filmed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

955
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: And those were long days because we had a lot

956
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: of scenes. We had a talking cat, so we had

957
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: live cats out amatronic cats. We had a ton of

958
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: special effects. Our special effects guy went off to do

959
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, and our makeup artist now does like

960
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: Stranger Things and Ryan Murphy and she's like this award winning,

961
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: most award winning makeup artist. So we had some incredible

962
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: crew on this show and we were able to pull

963
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: the show together. But it was we were all learning

964
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: on the job, Like all these special effects and all

965
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: this stuff was really complicated, and these seasoned directors would

966
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 3: come in and be like what do I do? And

967
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: I would oftentimes explain it to them, So then I

968
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: ended up being like, why don't I just direct it?

969
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: So luckily my mom, being my executive producer, was like,

970
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: I got you a DGA car. You're directing the next episode.

971
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 3: And I was like, uh okay. But I was protected

972
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: by my crew that I've been working with for a

973
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: few years, and I knew the characters and I was

974
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: there from the start and I knew what to do,

975
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: and everybody rallied around me, and it was an amazing

976
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: education and how to direct, and I just love with

977
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 3: it creatively. That feeds me more than acting. Like Sean Aston,

978
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, like he calls actors meat puppets a

979
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: little bit like we do. The director tells us what

980
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 3: the script says we have to do and all this stuff.

981
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 3: But when you're directing, you read that script, you get

982
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: that vision, you make that come true. You know the

983
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: storyteller in a sense. And I really connect with that more.

984
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: And I was directing so much for a few years

985
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: that I would beg for I was like, I got

986
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: to make a Christmas movie in order to get my

987
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: union insurance, Like I got to I got to keep

988
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: my SAG insurance. So I need to like get an

989
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: acting job real quick and kind of pop off a

990
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: Christmas movie so I can keep directing. So yeah, it

991
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 3: was fun, though, it's fun.

992
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: What after what do you what do you do? What's next?

993
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: Developing a few more, developing a Christmas movie right now,

994
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: developing a true crime movie, right now developing a sitcom

995
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: right now, So a bunch of stuff in the works

996
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 3: that hopefully we'll all sort of start to come to

997
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: fruition next year.

998
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: Hm.

999
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: So I'm just you know, we're all kind of hunkering

1000
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: down these holidays, and.

1001
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 2: You're happy on your path, meaning in ten years from now,

1002
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: you want to just keep doing what you're doing, like

1003
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: you have found your found your You've hit your stride.

1004
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: I feel like in the the New Yorker in me

1005
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: is more about being a working actor and working in

1006
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: this industry in any capacity. I'll do craft service like

1007
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 3: I just love being a part of it, and I

1008
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: love good but I'm also really enjoying like middle aged

1009
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: life with my husband and my kids, and I don't

1010
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: want to miss, you know, the all that, Like next year,

1011
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: my son's going to beat my second son's going to

1012
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: be a senior, and I want to go through all

1013
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: that senior stuff with him, you know, I want to

1014
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: be present for all that. I want to do big

1015
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: vacations because I know time's coming where they're going to

1016
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: have wives and children and they're not going to want

1017
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: their mom and dad around. So I'm trying to really

1018
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: soak all that in in the next few years. Yeah,

1019
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to just like really spend time with

1020
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: my husband and and and you know, at the same

1021
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: time get some passion projects going. I found some great

1022
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: books that I've acquired, and you know, it's I have

1023
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: a lot going on. You know what, We this industry

1024
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: have so many things we throw at the wall and

1025
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: see what's Yeah. Yeah, you never really know what's going

1026
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 3: to work. But I have some passion projects that I'm

1027
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: like deep into and I hope you know, come to fruition.

1028
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: But did you there are books you've read an option?

1029
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's there's a few.

1030
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: That older books are newer books.

1031
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: No, newer books that are like, well newer books.

1032
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with reading lately, Like this whole year, I've

1033
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: been Yeah, I've been reading, my face off, I'm just obsessed.

1034
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: Well, the ones I'm really into our sort of historical fiction.

1035
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, taking some historical fiction.

1036
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: I just a little bit. Yeah, they're like murder mysteries

1037
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: but sat in the past.

1038
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: Fun.

1039
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, some fun stuff for sure.

1040
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: Fun. Well, Well, I'm gonna see you tonight, are we tonight?

1041
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1042
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: We're screening the movie.

1043
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: How many times have you watched it? Already is this

1044
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: gonna be I haven't.

1045
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: I haven't really no, I mean I've well, you know,

1046
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: like you said, you only watch that one movie that

1047
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: you like. I hate fucking watching myself. It drives me crazy.

1048
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm not gonna watch it until i

1049
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: have to watch it. You know. Wilder has been watching it,

1050
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: and you know, he's like, oh god, you know, like

1051
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: why I just said, buddy, you know, just get ready.

1052
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: Watching yourself is no one really loves you.

1053
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Know.

1054
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: You're hearing your voice, You're looking at your hair, you're

1055
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: looking at your clothes.

1056
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 3: Ah, why why did I do it that way?

1057
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: I look right right? And so it's like, just know

1058
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: that you're gonna hate You're gonna hate yourself, you know,

1059
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: but you'll get used to it. Yeah, and that's that,

1060
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: you know. So I watched some of the scenes are

1061
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: very cute, really sweet, They're really real. You know, you're

1062
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: gonna love it.

1063
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna love it. We're gonna watch it on the

1064
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: big screen tonight. You're gonna love it. I think the

1065
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: audience is gonna really love this one because you are

1066
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: so incredibly charming in it. You and Alicia have amazing chemistry.

1067
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: You and Jamila have amazing chemistry. Jamila is so funny Pureson,

1068
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: like absolutely hilarious, and we just have some high jinks

1069
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: that seriously ensue. So I mean, I think this is

1070
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: gonna be a new classic Christmas movie for everybody. That's

1071
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: what I really wanted to bring. Like, yeah, I was

1072
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: a little sick of the vanilla sweet Christmas movies that

1073
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: are out every year. They're the same, and I know

1074
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 3: people like that. People want the predictability of Like I

1075
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: want a happy ending. I you know, they're usually going

1076
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 3: through something tough at the holidays. They're missing somebody there,

1077
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: you know, they didn't get a paycheck this month, they

1078
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: whatever it is that they're going through. I think the

1079
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: Christmas movies are a safe place for them. But what

1080
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: I miss about Christmas movies is the comedy. I miss

1081
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: the Christmas Baking and Elf and Home Alone and and

1082
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: that sort of fun natured movie. And I really wanted

1083
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: to bring more of that back to a movie. And

1084
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 3: so that's where this one came from. Like when Holly Hester,

1085
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: the writer brought us she was a writer on Sabrina

1086
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: and she brought us the script and I was like, oh,

1087
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: this is fun, Like this is fun. And I also

1088
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: love that it's not like your exes, but you're getting

1089
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: along and the new girl comes in and she's not hated,

1090
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: she's not awful, she's not the devil right, like we

1091
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 3: don't want her out immediately, Like it's not like parent

1092
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 3: trap where you're like, get her out right, I want her,

1093
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: you know. Kate kind of falls in love with her

1094
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: two and goes, oh, I see it, like she's really

1095
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: she's fantastic, like you know, Pearson's fantastic, and you know,

1096
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: everybody in this movie is very nice and fun to

1097
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: be around. But who actually belongs together is?

1098
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's true. And when we were doing press, Jamila

1099
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 2: was talking about that a lot, which is I love

1100
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: that these aren't two women who are pitted against each other. Yeah,

1101
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: you know, which is nice.

1102
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: It's not like a young, sexy one and then the

1103
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: woman you know, mature who like you know, it's it's

1104
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: really like they're both great, But who belongs together is

1105
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: really the ultimate question? Like yes, yes, So I love

1106
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: it for that and I think people will love it

1107
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: and I'll.

1108
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: See it will I'll see you tonight. Bye. Oh, I'm jay,

1109
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: I'm ja. She's done some shit, like you know, I mean,

1110
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, you get put in toll, a little bit

1111
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: of Melissa Joan Hard and the Sabrina teenage witch and

1112
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and that's who she's thought of. But

1113
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: she's prolific. I mean she picks her lane and then

1114
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: fucking pushes the gas down, pedal to the metal and

1115
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: just rips it. Directed a ton of things, producing a

1116
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 2: ton of things. Her mom, there's a boss, like you know,

1117
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: pretty cool shit. Anyway, I'm gonna leave by a