1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Joe Pagson for Shawn Hannity. The number the same eight 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: hundred nine four one shown one eight hundred nine four 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: one seven three two six, where, of course, talking about 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: the dominating story, it's not only here in America, but 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: it's across the globe, as I said it did BBC 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Radio the other night, where they don't understand the Second 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: Amendment why we have guns at all? And look, I 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: understand the Monday morning quarterback and understanding, I understand the 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: human need for the why why does somebody do this? 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Why does somebody do Buffalo? Why does somebody do Sandy Hook? 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Why does somebody do Aurora? Why does somebody do Littleton? Why? 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: Why does somebody do this? And that's an answer that 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: we can get after we stop the person from what 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: he's doing. And what I mean is, do we have 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: enough safety protocols in place that are uniform across our schools, 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: our grocery stores, our movie theaters, our malls. Do we 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: have enough safety protocols that are uniform that we know 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: will at least serve as a major deterrent to somebody 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: doing this left versus right. Crap can come later. That 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: can come later when you see Yuvaldi and nineteen dead children, 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: two dead teachers, and now one are the dead teachers. 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Husbands dies of a heart attack, his family saying that 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: he died of a broken heart because he lost his 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: high school sweetheart he'd been with for twenty four years. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: They've got four kids that are orphaned now, so the 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: why is certainly something we should ask. But when it's happening, 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: I want first reactors. We talk about first responders. I'm 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: a huge supporter of first responders. My father was a 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: firefighter in the Air Force who was a firefighter in Copeg, 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: New York. My uncles all were as well. My grandfather 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: was the fire chief in Belmore, New York. I mean, 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm a guy who's a blue collar guy, comes from 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: civil servants. I understand what these men and women do. 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: They put on the line to save lives, to preserve life, 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: but their first responders, they can't be immediate reactors. It's 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna take some amount of time, whether it's five minutes 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: or twenty minutes, to get to this scene of where 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: something's going on. What protocols do we have in place. 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: We know there was an unlocked door at this school 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: that's been verified now from the press conference that was 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: given by the DPS officer. This guy got into the 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: school through the teacher's parking lot and there was an 43 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: unlocked door. He walked right in, started shooting. Then police 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: officers went in. They exchanged gunfire, officers were being injured. 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: They backed off to make a plan. Now comes into 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: play the audio and video that you're seeing and hearing 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: everywhere in this country and well beyond of frantic parents 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that I look. I understand. I'm a parent of five daughters. 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I get it. Frantic parents saying get in there and 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: do something. We're hearing reports of police officers specifically getting 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: their kids out and maybe not going back in to 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: stop the bad guy. Now we're hearing the latest report 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: is that it was an hour the guy was inside 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: the school before police officers went back in, and he 55 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: was eventually killed by a board tach officer who's a 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Border Patrol tactical officer, sort of like the SWA team 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: for the Border Patrol. He's a hero today. Here's the 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: story from WI Radio, my flagship. Police in Texas say 59 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the suspected elementary school shooter entered through an unlocked door. 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: South Texas DPS Director Victor Escalon said the shooter shot 61 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: his grandmother and wrecked his truck just before entering rob 62 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Elementary in Uvaldi. Escalon said the suspect then engaged in 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: a gun battle with officers four minutes after he entered 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: the school. Officers took cover while reinforcements arrived. The suspect 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: was eventually shot and killed one hour after the reinforcements 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: got to the school. Escalon said the shooter was never 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: confronted by a school resource officer when he entered an 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: unlocked door at the school. Police did try to negotiate 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: with the shooter, but he never responded. That's the ladies 70 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: that we have. That's the breaking news. If you're just 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: joining his now didn't here last hour. Let me. I'm 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: just going to reinforce what I just said. There was 73 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: no school resource officer there. It's been widely reported that 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: he had a shootout with a school resource officer when 75 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: he got there. That's not true. He gained entry. Officers 76 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: then went in after him once they were called to 77 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: the scene. His grandmother, who got shot in the face 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: by this guy, she called nine on one, so they 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: go in after him, exchange gunfire. Several officers injured he 80 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: may have been injured at the time as well. Then 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: they backed off for an hour until he was taken out. Now, 82 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: in the video that has now been shown and they 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: order that you're hearing everywhere, there is no indication that 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: gunshots are happening. And what Escalon said today as I 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: watched his news conference was that the bad guy did 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: the murdering right in the beginning. Now is that to 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: say that there will be no further information that changes that. No, 88 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep on getting information as we go. But 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: let me go back to what I said off the 90 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: top here. The why is an important question as it's happening. 91 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: I don't care why. I want him shot in the 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: head and dead. I want him gone. There's some things 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: that we have to change. And before I do that, 94 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: my daughter Sam is my executive producer, and it also 95 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: appears on my show every afternoon. Sam, You've got something 96 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: about a big at happening in Uvaldi, right, that's right. 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: It was just announced that President Joe Biden and his 98 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: first lady will be traveling to Uvaldi this Sunday. Okay, 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: so this Sunday, the President and his wife are going 100 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: to go to Uvaldi and they're going to. I would 101 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: hope meet with the families and give them some compassion. 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: I hope this guy who hasn't get in front of 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: a microphone and start talking about gun control. That's just stupid. 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: That isn't what these families need. These families need the 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: support of the nation of their nation. These family these 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: families need help in in mourning and recovering and getting 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: to the next day. That's really what it is. I'm 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: glad he's going. He should go, The president should go, 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: and he should represent this nation in wrapping our arms 110 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: around these families in that community. But having said that, 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: let me go back to what I said earlier, then 112 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 1: why does it matter. It's time now to stop the politicals, 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: to stop the wokebs. The time now is to use 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: common sense. Let me give you an example. This is 115 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: an example that is nowhere near what we just saw 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: in Uvalde, Texas, or nowhere near what we saw in Buffalo, 117 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: New York. But you and I have the same car, 118 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: We park in the same parking lot. My car has 119 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: an alarm. There's a flashing led inside of the car. 120 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: A car thief really wants a car like the ones 121 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: we're driving. They see the flashing led in my car. 122 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: They don't see one in your car. Which car do 123 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: they steal? The path of least resistance is what bad 124 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: people always take. But before San Francisco, La and the 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: rest of California decided that you can steal up to 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty dollars and we won't do anything, 127 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: people weren't walking into the CBS and the Walgreens with 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: bags and duffel bags, filling up the bags and walking out. 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: Nobody's stopping them, nobody questioning them, and nobody's going to 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: go in and try to investigate and prosecute. Why did 131 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: that start happening because California said nine hundred fifty dollars 132 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: or less is no longer a felony. If they make 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: it a felony again, that'll stop. We have to put 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: the terrence up. When you put a sign out in 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: front of a school that says gun free zone and 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: you say that proudly, the bad guy who just shot 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: his grandmother in the face, is not going to see 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: the sign and say, oh damn, it's a gun free zone. 139 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: I'd better not bring my guns here and kill people. 140 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Now he's going to say, all right, nobody here to 141 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: stop me. Let me go and do what I'm gonna do. 142 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: There are schools in Texas, and again I'm based in Texas. 143 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: If you didn't hear me earlier about about an hour 144 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: and a half away from your valley where I said, 145 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: there are schools in Texas where they are trained gun 146 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: carrying teachers inside the schools. On the outside, it doesn't 147 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: say this is a gun free zone. On the outside, 148 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: it says we are trained to kill you if you 149 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: try to harm our students or faculty. Guess where we 150 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: don't have things like this happen. And you also have 151 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: to be uniformed with having one entry when school is open. 152 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: In Parkland, Florida, the guy walked in a side door 153 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: that should not have been open. In Uvaldi, the guy 154 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: walks into a teachers entrance that was unlocked. It should 155 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: not have been unlocked. It should not have been open. 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: We have to do everything we can to put the 157 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: deterrence up to stop evil from doing what it does. 158 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: You want to talk about violent video games, we can. 159 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: You want to talk about the nuclear family breakdown in 160 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: this country, let's do that. You want to talk about 161 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: fathers not in the homes, not taking responsibility. Okay, let's 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: go there, but that's all after when it's happening. I 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: want the person to think, if I try this, they're 164 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: going to kill me. I'd better not try it. And 165 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: if they still don't care and still go and try it, 166 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: then we kill them and neutralize the threat to children, teachers, 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: grocery shoppers, whomever happens to be, mallgoers. We have to 168 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: make people who would do bad things think twice. They're oh, 169 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: he's going to take the path of least resistance. We 170 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: see that over the ages in human history. If you 171 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: put up a barrier, you put up some sort of resistance. 172 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: Too bad, too evil, evil will take the easier path 173 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: and move on. It's really that simple. It's not complicated. 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: What is complicated when you have people listen, I want 175 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: you to do this today. Do me a favor. Yeah, 176 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: you don't know me, trust me, I'm pretty nice guy. 177 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Do it. Do it because you love Sean. When you 178 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: hear somebody today in the media, whether it's me, somebody 179 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: on Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBCCNBC, whatever happens to be CNN, 180 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: when you see or hear somebody say something like we 181 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: have to pass hr eight that would stop this. Realize 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: that that person who's saying it is protected by good 183 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: guys with guns, whether Steve Kerr, the head coach of 184 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, or it's will Be Goldberg on 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: the set at ABC at the View, or it's some 186 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: buddy at CNN. Trust me when I say, listen to 187 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: me clearly. I used to be on CNN all the time. 188 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I used to I went in on fifty eight Street 189 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: in New York. I walked in, I had to put 190 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: my bag through the machine, and there were two or 191 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: three armed guards standing there, ready to take me out 192 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: if I dared try something. They're all protected. These people 193 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: are all protected by good guys with guns. Who was 194 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: at Andrew Cuomo when he was the governor of New 195 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: York said you don't need more than two bullets to 196 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: kill Ada, as he was surrounded by seven or eight 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: guys or gals with fifteen round magazines willing to die 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: to protect him. Keep in mind who it is that 199 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: you're hearing from. Understand that what I said, what Andy 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: Pollock said last hour, those are simple steps you can 201 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: take to make sure innocence is looked after. Little babies 202 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: going to school should come home and eat dinner with 203 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: mom and dad. This never should have happened after Columbine. 204 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Say we were surprised by Columbine, which we shouldn't have been. 205 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: We should have been on guard and we should have 206 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: put resistance up. Let's say we were surprised by that. 207 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Twenty three years later, it's still happening. What is the 208 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: sixty eight billion dollars a year Department of Education done 209 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: to help sure the safety of the schools. How much 210 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: safety could forty billion sent to Ukraine? How much safety 211 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: could that have provided to schools? Do states have the 212 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: funding they need to provide safety for schools? And I'm 213 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: at the point now where I'm going to give the 214 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: recommendation to any parent who's listening. If you're about to 215 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: send your kid back to public school after this summer, 216 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: you better go and ask some questions at the school board. 217 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: You better ask some questions of the principle of the 218 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: staff and find out what the safety measures are that 219 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: are in place. And if there's more than one door 220 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: open and available during school day, do not send your 221 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: kid there. Find out how to do a private school, 222 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: a charter school, homeschool them, do something else, because if 223 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: they can't provide a guaranteed safe day for your child, 224 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: why would you ever continue to send them there. It's 225 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of simple. Bottom of the hour. It's going to 226 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: be um Ken Paxton. He's the Attorney General the great 227 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: State of Texas. More safety measures that he says are 228 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: available today to public schools, not only in Texas but 229 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: around the country, and what you can do to make 230 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: sure those things get into place. We talked to him 231 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: about what happened in Uvaldi and much much more. One 232 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: eight nine one shn one eight hundred nine four one 233 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: seven three two six. My name is Joe PAGs. Go 234 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: to Joe PAGs dot com. It's my website if you 235 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: want to find out more. Glad to be in for 236 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, stay right here. When fake news gives you lies, 237 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: Nity supplies the truth. Sean Hannity is on right now. 238 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show. Your boy, Joe PAGs 239 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: in for Sean today. I appreciate you taking the time. 240 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: One eight hundred and nine four one Shawn. That's one 241 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine four one seven three two six. 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: Makes you checkout Hannity dot com as well for all 243 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: the news and information you need, let me go to 244 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: the phone lines. I appreciate you taking the time. It's 245 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna be um. Let's see Tina, Oklahoma. What's on your mind? Hi? 246 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: You know, I realized a lot of people are in 247 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: pain and they're angry and this is horrible. But blaming 248 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the cops is not the answer. You know, I wonder 249 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: how much training guys in a little bitty town like 250 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: you've all they get. They rushed in a four minutes 251 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: seems like a long time when you're standing there scared. 252 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: But if they didn't know where he was, how many 253 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: hostages he had? Rushing in like that could have gotten 254 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot more people's hurt. They got officers hurt. You know, 255 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: they backed off, they waited for backup. You have the 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: training to deal with this, and the situation was resolved. 257 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: Well I think you're right. Well, well I just want 258 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: to jump in here because I think you're right. And again, 259 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a I'm a thin blue line guy. 260 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: I'm a i'm a blue Lives matter guy. But there's 261 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with asking questions. There truly is nothing wrong 262 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: with asking questions. You know, did they wait too long? 263 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Did they take action? If they weren't trained well enough. 264 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: How can we get them trained well enough. I don't 265 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: think anybody's saying the individual officers are to blame, the 266 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: bad guy is to blame. But I think it's fair 267 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: to ask questions, don't you. Yes, but the parents yelling 268 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: that the cops are not doing what they should be doing, 269 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: and that they should have stopped this sooner. There are, 270 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: like you said, playing armchair quarterback, and there are so 271 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: many variables in this. It could have gone a lot 272 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: worse than it did. I can't disagree with you. I 273 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: think many would say, and I appreciate the call, thank you. 274 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Many would say, had it not been for them showing 275 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: up and barricading him, he could have gone to the 276 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: rest of the school and done even more mayhem. And 277 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: also many are saying, and the reports are coming out 278 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: from the police saying, this guy killed most of his 279 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: victims in the first few minutes, and the police were 280 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: in there and they were trading bullets, and the last 281 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: thing they wanted to do is get people caught in 282 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: the crossfire. So they have to come out for that. Now. 283 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Why it takes an hour, I don't know. What were 284 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: the negotiations. I don't know were there any more gunshots 285 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: after initially made contact. I don't know, And I say 286 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Not to be in a coy I say, 287 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't And I think that 288 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: we as a society can ask questions, can be skeptical, 289 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: but wait for the answers. We don't have anywhere near 290 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: the answers we're going to get in this case. And again, 291 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: a good guy with a gun, a guy who has 292 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: trained to tactically trained Border patrol agent, shot and killed 293 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: this guy, ending the threat. We can't forget that that 294 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: man is certainly a hero. But that very emotional videotape 295 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: and audio that we're hearing from these parents, it's understandable 296 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: you would be freaked out like that you don't know 297 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: what's happening with your baby. But at the same time, 298 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: we don't know that. We're just seeing emotions and the 299 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: police were still actively doing what they had to do, 300 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: or there's something else going on. We come back, it's 301 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: going to be Ken Paxson, the Attorney General the great 302 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: the great State of Texas. I appreciate you hanging out. 303 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: My name Joe PAGs Gotta joepags dot com in for 304 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, stay right here, get your dose of independence 305 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: and liberty every weekday right here on the On Hannity Show. 306 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: Great to have you along for the ride. Thanks for 307 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: stopping by. Really glad to have this man out. He 308 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: is the top cop, the top law enforcement officer in 309 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: the great state of Texas. It's Ken Paxton. Ken, good 310 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: to see you. Glad to have you on another's It's 311 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: not an easy time, but I do want to make 312 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: quick mention of the fact that you were that you 313 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: won the primary yesterday, you beat George P. Bush, and 314 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: it looks like you'll be you probably will remain our 315 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: attorney general here where I think you've done a very 316 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: good job in Texas. So good news there, Yeah, thank you. Yeah. 317 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: It was a tough day for us. We were very 318 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: excited about the runoff. It was finally here. We felt 319 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: like we were going to do really well. Of course, 320 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: then the shooting occurred and it kind of put a 321 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: damper on our day. But I'm still grateful for two 322 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Texans for giving me this opportune because I think it 323 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: really matters right now as the top law enforcement officer 324 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: in the in the entire state. And again I'm going 325 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: to say it again. You do a great job. I thought. 326 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: I thought Greg Gabbett did a great job before you 327 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: in that office as well. How do you find out 328 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: about something like what happened in Uvaldi yesterday? Yes, it's 329 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: interesting because I was out at the poll and it 330 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: was kind of weird. I was actually talking to Donald Trump. 331 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: He called me to see how I was doing, right, 332 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: And then as soon as I get off, one of 333 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: my staff members told me about the shooting, and that 334 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: immediately puts us on notice because we're involved, initially at 335 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: least in dealing with any victims of crime. So we 336 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: immediately started sending, you know, getting our people together to 337 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: go down there. And then we started getting reports just 338 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: like you publicly. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't from other 339 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: government officials. We were actually just putting together from what 340 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: was going on in the media. It is Ken Paxton, 341 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: the Attorney General the great State of Texas, and you know, 342 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: when we hear about something like this, it takes me back. 343 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: I've been doing broadcasting for thirty two years, television news 344 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: anchor for a long time, news reporter, journalists for a 345 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: long time. I've covered a lot of these colum mine. 346 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: Ken has been twenty three years ago now, which is 347 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: stunning if you think about it, twenty three years later. 348 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that we've fixed it. I mean, we 349 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: certainly didn't yesterday for that community. And it's not your fault, 350 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: it's the fault of us as an American community. Why 351 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: haven't we done something proactively that we can uniformly make 352 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: sure we can send kids to school another kind of 353 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: come home save at the end of the day. You know, 354 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: I think we've had such a debate about what would work, 355 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: and you know, so much pressure always gets put on 356 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: us and to change the gun laws so that you 357 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: take the guns out of hands of everybody. Well, and 358 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: we end up finding about something that actually never will 359 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: work because you can't make laws for people like that. 360 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: If they're not going to follow murder laws, they're certainly 361 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: not going to follow gun laws. So we end up 362 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: debating about the wrong thing and not getting the things 363 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: done that will actually work, like fortifying our school, giving 364 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: schools and resources to hire police officers, giving them the 365 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: resources to train people that are there, like teachers and administrators, 366 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: to actually know how to use a firearm so they 367 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: can react before the police get there. Making sure that 368 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: our schools have less entrances so that it's harder for 369 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: somebody to get in. I mean, there's some really practical 370 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: things we could do, we just haven't done very many 371 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: of them. It's ken pacts of the Attorney General. Great 372 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: State of Texas can not twenty feet from me. I've 373 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: got five guns. None of them is going to do 374 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: anything as we see here and speak. I'm a law 375 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: abiding citizen. I have the right to have them according 376 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: to the Constitution. I've done what I have to do 377 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: in Texas to be able to have these guns. It's 378 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: not about the gun. You and I both know that. 379 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Yet that's the red herring that has brought out every 380 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: single time. Is there a gun law that isn't on 381 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: the books now that would have stopped this guy from 382 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: going and doing what he did. No, there's not a 383 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: singal gun on This guy didn't care about any laws. 384 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean he killed, He killed, you know, twenty one people. 385 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: And if you look at the places that have gun laws, 386 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: like you know, strict gun laws, they tend to have 387 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: the highest crime rates, the highest murder rates, because the 388 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: criminals who don't follow the gun laws know that the 389 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: law abiding citizens can't protect themselves. So you know, we 390 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: have the statistical data to show exactly what we would argue, 391 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: and they they they ignore the statistics, they ignore all 392 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: the all the evidence in favor of our point. Well, 393 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: I mean that's the point, isn't it. Bad guys if 394 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: they're willing to shoot their grandmother in the face and 395 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: then a local school and shoot the place up, killing 396 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: as many as they can. He doesn't really care about 397 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: a gun law, does he. No, it's it's ridiculous. And 398 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: that's why. I don't even know why they get away 399 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: with this, right, But it's so ludicrous to think that 400 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna fall Oh oh wait a minute, 401 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: there's a gun law. I was gonna go kill people. 402 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: Now I can't do it. That is an insane argument. 403 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Ken In our state and in many other states where 404 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: people are listening and watching right now, there are signs 405 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: in front of schools, almost proudly saying it's a gun 406 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: free zone. When you put up that sign, what is 407 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: a bad guy gonna think? He's gonna think it's an 408 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: easy target. There are also schools in Texas there are 409 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: a few that actually put up signs saying, hey, people 410 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: in this school have guns and so far, none of 411 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: those schools have gotten hit because guess what, if you're 412 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: you're gonna do this kind of crime, You're gonna go 413 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: to the school. It's easier. You know, we talked right 414 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: before this tonight and you told me that there's actually 415 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: a provision in Texas. There's a law, there's some sort 416 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: of a system that a school can in fact go 417 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: for guardian training. Other we're teachers, people that we trust 418 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: with our kids for nine hours a day to educate them, 419 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: teach some social skills, to make sure that they're safe 420 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: when they go home. These people are people that we 421 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: trust already with so much of our kids' lives. They 422 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: could also legally carry and legally defend our kids. Why 423 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: aren't more schools taking you up on that? So? I 424 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I think it was in twenty 425 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: thirteen when I was in the tech center, we passed this, 426 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: giving school or is the opportunity to choose to train 427 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: their teachers and their administrators. And it's really been up 428 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: to them, and I don't think very many of them 429 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: taking advantage of it. The ones that have are much 430 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: safer than the ones that haven't. And in this you know, 431 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: as what happened yesterday. Had had somebody been armed in 432 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: that school or several people, much less chance of those 433 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty one people being dead today. Is the program called 434 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: the Guardian program. Yeah, there's two. There's the Guardian program, 435 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: which is a lesser training than the Marshall program, which 436 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: is more like becoming almost a you know, mini policeman. 437 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: A lot more training involved. We offer for both of those. 438 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to the Lieutenant governor yesterday. He said 439 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: there are resources available since twenty nineteen for schools. They 440 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: get more money and they have the choice of using 441 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: that money for this or not, and they've chosen not 442 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: to use it. When you're talking about arming the teachers 443 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: and you're talking about a program that will help to 444 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: fund and finance their training and make sure that they're safe. 445 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: There's something else you told me that I think would 446 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: work very very well against a criminal element, because the 447 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: criminal element wants the easiest pass path with least resistance. 448 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: You wouldn't even know who was armed. I mean they 449 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: would walk in and have no idea if thirty people 450 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: were armed or fifty people were right and yeah, and 451 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: they wouldn't know if it was the first person they 452 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: saw or the fifth person, right, So you know they 453 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: would always they have to be watching their back a 454 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: lot more than they do now. And they walk in 455 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: knowing that no one has a weapon. Once they've gotten 456 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: in there, just you know, sitting ducks literally when you 457 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: see the people on the other side, immediately knee jerk reacted. 458 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: It's Ken Packson, the Attorney General, the Grace Date of 459 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: Texas and say take the guns away. We've got to 460 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: revisit the Second amend We've got to close this, that 461 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: and the other loophole. You really don't hear anything that 462 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: would solve the problem. What you're hearing is people that 463 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: I believe, and tell me if you agree, are looking 464 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: for more power and control because in a disarmed, good 465 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: American society would be easy to push around by tyranny 466 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: or by a government that doesn't really care about freedoms 467 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: of liberties in the Constitution. Do you agree with that? 468 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: Is this about? Is this a power and control grabbed 469 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: by the left? Do you think, yeah, this is a 470 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: they use this as an excuse to really get control 471 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: of the country. This is about power and government power. 472 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: This whole Second Amendment was set up by these constitutional 473 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: scholars founded by country that didn't trust government, and so 474 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: they know that they know that if that, if America's armed, 475 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: the government is held in check by that. And there 476 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: are people that want to control the country and they 477 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: want to make they use these false arguments and fear 478 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: in anytime there's a shooting, it's you know, of course, 479 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a gun law's fault, not the fact that 480 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: we didn't protect these children, not the fact that this 481 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: person was evil and would have broken the gun law. Anyway, 482 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: none of that gets argued in. They don't even get 483 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: challenged on. It's just assumed it's guns. It's the gun lobby. 484 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: Wait when somebody like Chuck Schumer comes out immediately or 485 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: Juliana In, Joaquin Castro, or Barack Obama or Joe Biden 486 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: immediately come out and start railing against people owning guns. 487 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: These are people that are all safe and secure every 488 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: single day. They're protected by good guys with guns. Do 489 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: they think that we're that that's missed on us? I mean, 490 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: it is hugely hypocritical. Is it not to say I 491 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: can't protect my kids but you can protect yourself. No, 492 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: it is hypocritical. Yeah, I think a lot of Americans 493 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: don't think about well, oh, these guys that are saying 494 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: don't have guns, they're all protected by some I mean, 495 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's protected right now, Joe Biden's protected right now, 496 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Chuck Simmer's protected right now with people with guns. Why 497 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: is it that the rest of us have to be 498 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: unarmed and open to being shot by somebody that isn't 499 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: following a gun law and just decides to shoot us. 500 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: I live in Texas, just north of San Antonio, as 501 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, and we've been talking for a very long time. 502 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: My kids, I've got one in elementary school, one in 503 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: middle school. They're public schools. There's only one way in. 504 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: You know. I'm somebody who has known in the community. 505 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Even so, I still have to stop in the middle 506 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: of two doors. I can't go into where the student 507 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: body is. I've got to show my license through a 508 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: bulletproof glass. They'd buzzed me and after giving me a 509 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: tag that says I'm good to go. That wasn't the 510 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: case in Uvaldi. This kid got in or this bad guy, 511 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: this man who's evil on Earth, got in through a 512 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: teacher's parking lot where the door was unlocked. Is there 513 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: a way to force uniformity on Texas schools to make 514 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: sure that the process I have to go through is 515 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: a process anybody would have to go through before getting 516 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: access to teachers, students, administrators. Because the checks and balance, 517 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: it looks it's not the Uvaldi teacher's fault, it's not 518 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: the school's fault. I'm not saying that it's the bad 519 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: guy's fault, and we have to protect against that. Can 520 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: we force uniformity or not? Yeah, we can do through 521 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: the legislative process, and we do that because they provide 522 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: funds for education, and they can say, look, if you 523 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: want our funds, we're gonna you have to do this thing. 524 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: You have to protect yoursels, you have to limit access, 525 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: and you have to do this. In a matter of fact, 526 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: we'll even give you money to do it, just like 527 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: they offered money for protecting through having teacher training and 528 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: gun So, yes, the legislature has a lot of power 529 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: to do something about this with control of the money 530 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: and as much as we can do that. In Texas, 531 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: you've got Joe Biden signing executive orders and pushing for 532 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: let's ban in this kind of gun or let's ban 533 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: in that kind of gun, and common sense gun reform, 534 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: which is this bill that's out there, Hr. Eighth that 535 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense once you actually read it. 536 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: How do you balance that, because again, the Constitution outlined 537 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: specifically that I've got the right to keep and bear 538 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be infringed. Yet you've got the federal 539 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: government continuing to try to infringe it. Yeah. I mean, look, 540 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: that's why I'm in thirty four lawsuits with the bud administration. 541 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: They're all about ignoring the Constitution. Was first Amendment, second 542 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: amend of fourth Amendment. They don't care about the Constitution. 543 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: They make that clear. They make that clear in law 544 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: school when you take constitutional law. The most of the 545 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: the law school classes you take on constitutional law aren't 546 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: about defending the Constitution as it was written. It's about 547 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: whatever we can make it today. And the Biden administration 548 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: has no respect for what was written in that Constitution, 549 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: and therefore they're trying to change it. Yeah, good guys 550 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: with guns show up and nullify. Kill the bad guy 551 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: in Uvaldi. The one guy was a border tactical guy. 552 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: He was in this great, you know, very well trained 553 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: tactical team with the Border Patrol. And he's also he 554 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: also works with the Sheriff's Department in Uvaldi. These are 555 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: heroes that You've got six hundred students in the school 556 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: and nineteen is way too much. One dead student is 557 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: way too much. They'll misunderstand, but it could have been 558 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: much much worse had this guy not taken out the threat. 559 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: On the same day or the day after. You've got 560 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: Joe Biden signing executive orders that are somehow limiting police. 561 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: You've got Barack Obama who's tweeting out about George Floyd 562 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: and how a police officer killed him. You've got a 563 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: real battle in this country. Can when it comes to 564 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers not being seen like they were when 565 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: you and I were growing up. You know, we wanted 566 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: to be like them. We trusted them as our neighbors 567 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: who were keeping us safe. You've got a full side 568 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: of the aisle that's making them out to be the 569 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: bad guys. You've got impressionable young people that are hearing this. 570 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: What do you say to them today when it comes 571 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: to those that saved lives yesterday? Well, at the same time, 572 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: Washington is vilifying them. Yeah, I want to go back 573 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: to It wasn't just this case, but you go back 574 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: we were taking Border Patrol agent that came in and 575 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: saved other lives. I mean Sulfur Springs Church was the 576 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: same way. There was nobody in the church with a gun. 577 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Somebody came in from the outside and saved many of 578 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the people in that church. Right, So it's ludicrous to 579 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: argue that law enforcement can't make a difference. And I 580 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: think it's the whole reason the left has vilified them, 581 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: trash them over the last couple of years because they 582 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: want to take them away from us US just like 583 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: they want to take our guns. They want to make 584 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: it less sick. They want to create more chaos. More 585 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: chaosk is the more ability to control and create fear, 586 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: so that they convince people, hey, you need to trust us. 587 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: You can't trust law enforcement, you can't trust your guns, 588 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: you can't trust any of the things that worked in 589 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: the past will take care of you. Trust US. Texas 590 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Attorney General Ken Paxton just won the runoff yesterday. He's 591 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: going to be in the general and I'm hoping that 592 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: you win. It looks like you probably will. I don't 593 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: see why you wouldn't. One last question, when it comes 594 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: to what we just saw happened, we saw happened at 595 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: the grocery store in Buffalo. We've seen happen way too 596 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: many times in this country. Now that we're heading into 597 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: summer break in Texas for school children before they start 598 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: back in school in August, what advice do you have 599 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: for parents about what school to send their kids to? 600 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: What checks and balances should there be? We want to 601 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: send our kids and then have them home for dinner, Ken, 602 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: what advice would you have for them? Look, parents have 603 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: a lot of power. They can take their kids out 604 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: of school, they can send them to different schools. So 605 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: they need to speak to their school boards and they 606 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: need to speak and force. I've seen parents doing this 607 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: with critical race here. I've seen him doing with vaccine 608 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: and mass mandates. I've seen them doing it with sex education. 609 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: Parents are speaking up and saying no, we're not going 610 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: to put up with this. They can also speak up 611 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: on this issue and say my kids aren't safe. I 612 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: want them to be safe. I want to teach to 613 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: be trained, I want administrator to be trained. I want 614 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: a police officer at my school, and I want access 615 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: to be limited. That will create a much It won't 616 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: guarantee that everybody's save one hundred percent of time We 617 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: can never guarantee that, but we can make it a 618 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: lot safer than it is right now. I think you're 619 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: absolutely a hundred percent right again. Congratulations on the big win, 620 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: and we hope you'll remained the Attorney General for a 621 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: very long time. You're doing a great job for s 622 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: It's Ken Paxton, the Attorney General to the the great date 623 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: of Texas. Appreciate you. 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