WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 8/22: Patriots practice in Las Vegas 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:09.719 This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:11.960 Camp Cast is your source for all the news from 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.000 Patriots training Camp. Well, I do still watch the news. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.960 Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.279 have you covered what I miss yesterday? Now here to 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.040 review today's practice? The writers of Patriots dot com. All right, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.320 we're coming at you live from Las Vegas. This is 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.440 Mike Douso Evan Lazar from Patriots dot Com. We're fresh 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.800 off the field here in Las Vegas at the Raiders 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.080 new practice facility. Evan and uh, let's start. First things first, 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.440 Bill Belichick seeing some high praise of this new facility 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.480 of the Raiders have here in Las Vegas. I guess 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.120 technically Henderson Las Vegas, gushing about the new facility, saying 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.800 it was the best he's seen NFL or College in 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:51.400 his career in football. Itge is quite the high praise. 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.519 I mean, it was impressive. He drive up to it. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.640 It looks like it's like the Death Star or something 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.160 like that. It's all Raider black and maybe a better 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.080 comparison be like an airport hangar, right, and it just 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.920 Star Wars themed airport hangar. Yeah, yeah, field and a 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:11.119 half inside three almost full field football fields outside when 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:12.560 you're out here in the desert, Mike, you got a 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.520 lot of space, You had a lot of land, and 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.080 you can do a lot of things with it. But 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.480 it was very impressive. Yeah, the Patriots made use of 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.000 it today, just with a solo practice. And let's you know, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.960 start at the top. I know, Dalton Keene was released yesterday. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.720 The Patriots are getting down to the nitty gritty of cuts. 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.240 But we did have some returns today, Isaiah Win, Justin 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.160 harn as well as Hunter Henry. However, as many might expect, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.760 Taikwon Thornton Christian Molkerson remain injured, kind of thinning out 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.319 the depth a little bit at wide receiver, but Isaiah 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.440 went in a red jersey. They weren't in pads though, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.640 so it wasn't a high physical, highly physical practice. But 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.280 Isaiah Win was back in Justin Harnson a nice boost 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.480 there for the depth as far as offensive line goes. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.440 Hunter Henry being back as well becaus a nice boost 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.240 of the tight end group. But you know, let's let's 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:56.960 talk for a second about Taikwon Thornton. That's just an 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.600 unfortunate report. Mike Giardi saying broke his collar bones, gonna 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.960 be out about eight weeks and you know, just at 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.360 the top, that's just a buzz kill. There's no other 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.120 way to put it. Or young rookie receiver that that 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:08.919 really started to flash and was you know, every time 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.720 he came on the field, seemed like he was getting better. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.679 Tough for him. He's probably out until sometime October November. Now, Yeah, 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.000 now it sounds like maybe that IR boomerang might be 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.000 an option for him where he makes the fifty three 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.040 man roster initially and then gets put on IR after 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.560 cutdown day so that he can come back when he 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.880 is ready. He only has to miss four games technically 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.680 now based off reports eight to twelve week injury depending 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.280 on how guys heal and all that sort of thing. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.200 But I think the one thing not to place blame 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.359 obviously on tai Quon because you know, he's just playing football, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.560 but I think maybe that would be a little bit 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.480 of a lesson learned that sometimes he can just go down. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:47.840 It looked like he tried to gain some extra yards 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.200 and four or five guys piled on top of him 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.320 at that point, and especially with his frame and with 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.080 the size limitations, that he does have. Again, I'm not 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.160 trying to say it's his fault that he got hurt, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.720 but I think that those are moments where you sort 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.600 of learn where your limitations are on an NFL field. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.560 Unfortunately the hard way. But like you said, such a buzzkill, 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.839 such a bummer, because this is a player that we've 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.399 all been clamoring for for the Patriots. It's not just 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.320 like that they had a rookie receiver that was actually 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.639 doing something in practice and looked good and looked the 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.120 part and all those types of things. It's also the 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.160 speed and the ability to create separation down the field 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.079 consistently at the top of the route with his four 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.880 to eight all of those things coming together. This was 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.720 a true separator. And I don't know if the Patriots 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.760 have had a true speed separation type of guy in 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.320 the way that Taekwon can impact a game in a while. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.200 You draft a guy like Nikkil Harry, you hope for 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.520 the contested catches, right you trade for a guy like 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.320 Davante Parker, you hope for the contested catches. This was 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.080 a guy that was creating mountains of separation at times 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.400 with his speed and with his route running ability and 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.840 I don't know if they have a guy like that. 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.320 The good news is is that it's not season ending, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.000 it's not a long term thing. Is not a lower 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.560 body where it might linger for him or something like that. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.920 So hopefully bone teal and he gets back. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:08.760 So there was a practice today. We didn't quite know 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.880 what to expect. Patriots are, you know, scheduled to have 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.160 two sets to join practices coming up with the Raiders 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.120 over the next couple of days. They had the game 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.799 Friday night, we were traveling on Sunday, so we weren't 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.080 quite sure what to expect. But it was actually, you know, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.720 a pretty standard practice from what we've seen. Like I said, 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.400 they were in shells, but some competitive periods, a lot 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.880 of eleven on eleven seemed like they were kind of 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.520 getting the rust knocked off. It wasn't overly physical, but 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.080 it was probably more physical than I thought it was 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.000 going to be. Yeah, this was not a walkthrough. This 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.359 was a shorts and shells practice and they were going 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.560 out there doing some situational stuff. At the end of practice, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.320 we saw two minute put as actually one minute. They 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.320 put fifty nine seconds up on the clock real time, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.200 you know, running a two minute or one minute drill 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.240 in this case, and actually going through the steps of 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.360 what that might look like. And I thought that there 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:59.039 were some good throws there, and from Mac Jones, I 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.839 think when he get to shorts and shells, obviously the 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.039 big thing is really the back seven. It's like a 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.560 passing drill. Most of the time. You're not really evaluating 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.200 too much about the offensive line and defensive lines in 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.880 the pass rush, so you're more talking about a glorified 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.680 seven on seven at that point. And there was one 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.680 throw down the right sideline to Nelson Agalore that the 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.280 defensive coaches I think, I don't want to name names, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.760 but one of the defensive coaches claimed that Nelson Aglore 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.880 was out of bounds. I'm not sure if he was 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.520 out of bounds, but it probably would have been what 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:32.160 probably a thirty yard touchdown or so down the right sideline, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.719 a similar throw to the one we saw in the 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.200 preseason game on Friday night. It did look like Jabriel 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.440 Peppers might have been able to get a piece of 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.159 Nelson Agalore if it wasn't a live hitting situation. But 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.559 at the same time, it was a nice throw and catch, 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:49.600 and you saw still some ups and downs for the 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.159 offense where it's one two good plays and then maybe 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.960 a couple of bad ones thrown in there. But I thought, 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.720 overall today it seemed like they had a little bit 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.480 more tempo and a little bit more pace than, like 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.240 you said, like we expected, And maybe I let you 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.040 know what they expected. I don't know if the players 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.640 thought they were going to get themselves into like a 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.720 real shorts and shells practice today, I know. And then 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.240 they were. Then they were right in the weight room 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.200 as we were leaving, like, yeah, bless them working in 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.040 the heat. Wasn't you know, everyone's telling us it wasn't 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.400 that bad. It was only about ninety seven degrees today, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.560 It's gonna be one hundred and five or so tomorrow. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.840 But um, you know, just a couple of guys to highlight. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.640 I thought, you know, Jacobe Meyers showing up with it 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.560 with a few catches today. You mentioned that end of 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.120 game kind of scenario where he had caught a couple 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.760 of dig routes. It seemed like, um, you know, continue 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.640 to work on that slant the Parker that they tried 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.960 to hit the other night. That play popped up a 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.800 few times as well. Uh, And you know. Overall, I 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.240 think you're right, though, you know, it's just a lot 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.960 of eleven on eleven, some red zone work, some situational work, uh, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.560 Nick Folk finishing things off with some field goals, and 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.479 we kind of had a situational block perhaps where it 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.240 seemed like Cody I was like, did he really block that? 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.560 It seemed like he was that they were setting it up. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.039 But um, it seemed like a really active day and 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:55.680 I should mention I should have said this at the 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.560 top though, Ronnie Perkins, Harvey LONGI two guys new faces 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.480 that weren't there, so a little bit of something to watch. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.280 They do have to make some cuts tomorrow. I don't 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:05.960 I don't think those guys are in the firing line. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.880 But no, you do wonder, not to speculate too much, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.400 but you do wonder about potential ir and injury stin 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.640 for one of those guys this year. It doesn't really 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.720 seem like Ronnie Perkins has taken that year to leave, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.200 not that I really had highlighted him as somebody that 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:22.920 I thought was going to come in and be a 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.640 full time contributor or anything like that this season. But 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.520 Afredy Jennings, Josh J. They've really taken that role by storm, 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.320 especially Jennings, And I don't know if there's a ton 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.000 of opportunity out there for Ronnie Perkins at this point 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.360 on the fifty three. Well, it was a you know, 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.640 it's plenty to talk about today with the new stadium 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.560 or sorry, the new practice facility and you know, getting 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.880 out there everybody, everybody on the field, finally getting a 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.080 little bit of working and after the game. But tomorrow 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.680 and Wednesday, those will be the big days. Of course, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.880 we will be back with a podcast to wrap that up, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.640 and you know, all the writing that we do will 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.280 be summoned, everything up, So it should be a fun 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.840 a few days out here in Las Vegas. Looking forward 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.160 to seeing some old faces, old familiar faces tomorrow Josh McDaniels, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.200 Mick Lombardi among others. But we will be back tomorrow 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.320 after practice to wrap things up for You'll come a 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.440 little bit in the later afternoon because of the time change, 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.240 of course, but all building up to the final preseason 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.480 game coming Friday. Can we mention one more thing? Yeah, please, 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.200 we gotta mention little Jordan, because little Jordan, I think 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.320 we talk about these guys a lot, and I think 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:23.000 people see these guys in preseason games and you have 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.360 to look a lot of the time about who's around 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.920 the player. We all think that Little Jordan's shown us 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.600 something to make the fifty three man roster, but when 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.320 he's doing it in the fourth quarter against the other 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.720 team's third and four stringers and Bailey z Appy's in 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.120 at quarterback, and we're watching him out at practice and 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.200 it's a lot with the twos and the threes, and 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.640 maybe leaning more towards the threes because of Taekwon Thornton's 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.480 injury partially obviously, he moves up the depth chart a 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.320 little bit today and you saw him. I believe I 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.120 have to go back and really check this, but I 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.920 think that that was the first target that I've seen 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.960 Little Jordan have from Mac Jones in a practice this summer. 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.400 So that means that he's actually playing with the starting quarterback. 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.200 And I remember people talking about this with Brady with 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.240 the Austin Cars of the World and Riley mccarrin's, and yeah, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.880 they would look great in practice with Hoyer and you 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.440 know whoever the backup quarterbacks were at the time, but 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.000 they never actually got any opportunities with Tom Brady, Little 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:19.679 Jordan Humphrey, partially because of the injury, partially because he's 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.599 played well, has at least earned that maybe, and I 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.400 think over the next couple of days, it'll be interesting 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.520 to see if he gets more looks with the ones 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.880 and maybe even the high twos if you will, or 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.000 the one bees, if that's going to be the case. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.360 And maybe the coaching staff is starting to buy into 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.840 little Jordan Humphrey a little bit more as well. And 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.959 it's not just us saying, oh, this guy's going off 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.199 against guys that aren't going to be on an NFL roster. Yeah, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.640 I didn't. I didn't want to undercut your piece. I 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.360 knew you were writing about him, so but but a 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.200 little teaser there. Evan will be writing up a little 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.480 bit about little Jordan, the wide receivers, the injury to Thornton, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.360 how that affects everything. So plenty of news coming out 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.320 and it should obviously be a fascinating next week or so, 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.680 as they saw the roster down and you really find 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.559 out who the team that they're going to carry into 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.559 the twenty twenty two season. So Frevan Lazarre, this is 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.440 Mike Dousseau. 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