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Speaker 1: It's your favorite Professional Homegirl here ebanay, and we are

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Speaker 1: back with part two of last week's episode.

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Speaker 2: Now, before we get.

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Speaker 1: Into this week's episode, let's have a little story time

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to share this with you all, so

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Speaker 1: for this week's episode, we're diving even deeper into our

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Speaker 1: guest journey. In Part two, we'll explore her introduction to

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Speaker 1: sorority life and Greek organizations, her enlightening and y'all, this

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Speaker 1: part was so insightful, but her experience embracing and African

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Speaker 1: religion and the profound impact it had on her decision

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Speaker 1: of Greek organization memberships and discuss key considerations for those involved. So,

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Speaker 1: prayer warriors, get ready, because I denounced my sorority. Part

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Speaker 1: two starts now, how were you introduced to Greek life?

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Speaker 1: Because I was introduced to it. Yeah, I was introduced

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Speaker 1: to it by watching a Different World when I was

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, media, that's I told somebody else I was

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Speaker 3: on another interview. I'm like, you see something on media

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Speaker 3: that should automatically be a reflaged, Right, How they promoted

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Speaker 3: on the teev Yeah, because how many black marriages do

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Speaker 3: you see promoting well on TV? How many healthy churches

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Speaker 3: do you see promoter on TV? Right? What do you

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Speaker 2: Especially when it comes to black people?

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Speaker 3: Exactly so. But high school Roman Step Team I used

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Speaker 3: was like, I used to watch Stop. This was in

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Speaker 3: the nineties. Every day after school we would do those stomps.

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Speaker 3: I knew all the sororities, steps, chants, calls, colors, symbols.

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Speaker 3: I knew all about all of them in high school

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Speaker 3: I'm a social worker, so ain't in those mixtiveship programs

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Speaker 3: for these youth out here? If the diviust people are

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Speaker 3: you the sorority when he know you they have sisterhood

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Speaker 2: But if you're right, and if I'm.

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Speaker 3: Right, and what the scripture says that our doubt does

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Speaker 1: You know when I listened to your story and I

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Speaker 3: It was part of it. I think I think it's

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Speaker 3: across is one of the intentions of all of the organizations. Right. Family.

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Speaker 3: The scripture sayer is that he puts the lonely in families.

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Speaker 3: So family is God's intention for humanity. All humans desire community.

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Speaker 3: Why in the penile system the punishment is to isolate,

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Speaker 3: and the law person is isolated, the crazier they get it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm outside to say crazy. It's not political.

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Speaker 1: Look what happens to all these people who were isolated

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Speaker 3: You impact your impects your decision making, and loneliness impact

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Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, of course, of course. So when did

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Speaker 3: So I am because I thought God, because God was

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Speaker 3: And how is God not answering me?

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Speaker 3: Because I was one who could read my Bible and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, how our children are being killed, young people,

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Speaker 3: christian you know, Jesus is not your god, Those are

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Speaker 3: One time I had, like when I got deliverance. One

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Speaker 1: Like it's three o'clock in the morning. Ya yah, yeah,

434
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm tired. So she kept waking her up. She said,

435
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: when she went by her mother's door, she heard demons

436
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: and I said, what did it sound like? And she

437
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: made the sound and when I tell you my comments, section.

438
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: Was like no.

439
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: They was like I believe it. People were saying how

440
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: they was hearing and stuff, and she was like I

441
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. She was like she I think she

442
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: recorded it and she let her mother hear it, and

443
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: she was like, you know, our mom been through so

444
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: much since she was a kid, and she was like

445
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: you could just tell that them demons, we was just

446
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: all around her just like freaking have it.

447
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 3: Trauma opens the door to demonic possession and y occupation

448
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: because they can they don't have They can be in

449
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: you and not possess you. They can hold space in

450
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: your body, but they don't have to be possession and

451
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: tied and intels like full ownership, like they can fully

452
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: take over. Kay. So they but they can still be

453
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: in there and not you, not be fully possessed, but

454
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: they can still occupy at an oppress. So but hearing

455
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: them talk through me, that's crazy. I know it's true

456
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: because maybe I have I told you on the therapists,

457
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: I have clients that girl they voice to switch up.

458
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: I'll be like really, And the thing about that, let

459
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: me tell you why that's significant because biologically, scientifically, everybody's

460
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: voice is like a fingerprint.

461
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but now your voice is your voice and

462
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: it's only yours. Yeah, evennything changed it intentionally changed your voice,

463
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 4: it would still only be yours.

464
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: There are things that are markers in everyone's voice that.

465
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 2: Is only Yeah, that's a fact.

466
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: So for so when you hear something. When you hear that,

467
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: you know and then so so the voice doesn't only change,

468
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 3: though sometimes it's the facial expressions of the purpison that

469
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: will change. They will they can completely shift to a

470
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: different face. Occupation happening. So I experienced that. But then

471
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: even after that, like when I got home, I guess

472
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: some people would call it like paranormal paranormal activity. But

473
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 3: there were doors opening and closing. Let my house call

474
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: when swept through, because they were angry because I had

475
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: evicted them, So they came back to try to scare

476
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: me because fear opens the door again for them to occupy.

477
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: And all these are our disembodied spirits, their spirits without

478
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: a body. So from the flood, yeah, from the flood

479
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: of Noah, we're talking about eternal eternal beings that that

480
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 3: you die, right, They go on and on all generation

481
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: to generations to generation, and they don't have a body,

482
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: and they're looking for everybody. In the scriptures, when Jesus

483
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: came up under Demoniac and he said what are your name?

484
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 3: What is your name? He said, we are leading, and

485
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: they said, don't cast us out, can you know? They said,

486
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: don't send us to hell, don't send us to torment

487
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: before our time. He said, can you can you command

488
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: us to go into the pigs. M you heard that

489
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: Bible story when Jesus cast out the demons and he

490
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: and they asked to go into the pigs. They need

491
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: a body, they need to occupy something. Otherwise, they don't

492
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 3: feel rest, they don't have peace, they don't have rest,

493
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: they don't feel good. They can't exercise their desires. Their

494
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: desires may be to smoke a cigarette, it may be

495
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: to have sex, it may be to eat subway soundiches

496
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: every day. I don't know they have they have desires.

497
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: They are disembodied spirits. They have desires, they have thoughts,

498
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 3: and they want to occupy human beings. And so even

499
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: though I had soft, supernatural things when I was practicing

500
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: the African religion, when I came out of it and

501
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: I and I had to go through that deliverance myself

502
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: and I experienced that those are the things that further

503
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: solidified I don't want to be involved. I don't want

504
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 3: to be on the wrong side of this. Yeah, I

505
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: want to I want my body to be a temple

506
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: of the Holy Spirit, the one the one that that

507
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: brings life, not the ones that take away life, not

508
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 3: the ones that destroyed. And so I had to make

509
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: every decision I make is I want to be on

510
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: the right side of this, you know what I mean?

511
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: And so yeah, so, And that's when I feel like,

512
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: once you made that decision to leave that African religion,

513
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: you also made a decision to denouce your sorority.

514
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Later on, not right away. It took time because because

515
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: even when I did go to get the deliverance from

516
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: the African religion, they told me that I need to

517
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: denounce the sorority. But I didn't agree. I didn't understand

518
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: what they were talking about. I didn't write album. They

519
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: didn't explain it to me either. If they had taught me,

520
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: if they had shared with me the things I'm sharing

521
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: with you today, I probably could have made a better choice.

522
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: But because I didn't see it and they didn't know,

523
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: they just doing what they've been trying to do as

524
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: deliverance ministers. You know, they didn't know the connection. If

525
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: they had made the connection for me to the false gods,

526
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: to the covenants with death, with the oaths, the sins,

527
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: I would have been able to say, you know what,

528
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: the sorority gotta go to but it took me years.

529
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: It took me, let's see nineteen twenty World two. It

530
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: took me three years later. Wow, I think you have

531
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: the African religion to renounce the sorority. But again you

532
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: asked me, how did I lose? Long faith? God stopped

533
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: talking to me because I because I pledged, and he

534
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: did not tell me that until nine years later. I

535
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: heard God laugh at me. I'm like, you laught. He said,

536
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: let your God save you. And that's when he impressed

537
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: upon me, like you play it you bow that that's

538
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: when you were in mind because I didn't even remember

539
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: bowing until he showed me that. It was seeing that

540
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: the that he was against the organizations. That's when he

541
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: showed me you kneel at an altar? Now mad you

542
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: even inside the African religion, I was being I just

543
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: got initiated to be a priestess. You're not that right? Yeah,

544
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: I know what it takes to build and to raise

545
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: up an altar.

546
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you definitely have a very what's the word.

547
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no, no, Like I can tell

548
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: like the way you the way you can spit the Bible,

549
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: but it's digestible like I'm following you. I can understands

550
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: my Bible, but like the way you the way you

551
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: were able to like correlate things and like, but you

552
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: still what's the word?

553
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: You know?

554
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: But I just feel like I can tell that you

555
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: are of spirit if that makes sense?

556
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, well so let me tell you though, so

557
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: I know what an alter?

558
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Does that make sense to you? Okay?

559
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: Okay? But in that even though I spent all that

560
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: time raising up altars, tending to altars, doing these worship

561
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: things inside this African religion, almost about four years, right,

562
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: it never dawned on me that when I pledged that

563
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: was an altar in that room. I never recognized the

564
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: presence of the elements, the plant, the pictures, the fire,

565
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: the table, the cloth, and the bowing. All of that

566
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: is present at each of any secret society induction or

567
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: initiation ritual they doing that there's an altar present. This

568
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: is why. So people be like, oh, I didn't make

569
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: my organization and idol. You didn't make it an idol

570
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: in your mind, you don't think you did, but you

571
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: literally bowed at an altar. I didn't know that until

572
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: the day I was doing my laundry on August twenty second,

573
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, when God said, I hate this. It's

574
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: a sin against me. It's it's a false it's worshiping

575
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: a false God. I didn't know that was an altar

576
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: until he reminded me. And I saw myself in that

577
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: black dress taking that oath on my knees. I never

578
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: even knew ideas. I never even remembered that, and I lived.

579
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: I pledged people after that, I led people in those rituals,

580
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: and I still did not remember until until that veil

581
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: was lifted off my face, my eyes, because it's like

582
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: it's like you don't even it's like a film you

583
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: don't see. You don't think about that stuff. Yeah, just

584
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: thinking about like this is good, this.

585
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: Is this, especially want it?

586
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you don't think about that stuff. So I

587
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: didn't know. I didn't know it. He and that's when

588
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: he said, you bowed to another god. Let let your

589
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: sororities the God save you. Let them vindicate you when

590
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: someone does wrong against you, said, he said, let those

591
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: poodle idols save you, not me. He said, I won't

592
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: share my glory. And that's when I knew why for

593
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: almost to those two years, God did not speak to me.

594
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: He did not deal with me. And this is why

595
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: I decided, maybe he's not my God. Maybe he's not

596
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: the god for black people, because why are black people

597
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: not getting justice? Maybe this is why I need to

598
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: go to find an African God.

599
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people think like that too.

600
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what happened. That's what happened is I got

601
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: shut down, but he shut me down because I sin first.

602
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: It's only seeing that separates us from God. If we

603
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: hear our play, if we help ourselves that confess our sin,

604
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: he will connect with us. But he's holy, so he

605
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: if we don't, if we're still trying to do everything

606
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: that's against him and still want him to come and

607
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: have conversation with us, he ain't gonna do it. Yeah. Yeah,

608
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: he got boundaries, he got standards. Yeah, I'm like, and

609
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: we be trying to reinforce our standards when to come

610
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: down to dating, the relationships and friendships and jobs, and

611
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: we think the Holy God doesn't have standard.

612
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 5: He t standards too, So walk us through.

613
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: You made you and did the denouncement? Did you have

614
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: to do anything? Why are you laughing?

615
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: Because I know they gotta be a process where you

616
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: also have to protect yourself, because is it possible that

617
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: these organizations can come back and sue you.

618
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. I ain't signed on in Diego. I

619
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: know they make it. I know they asking people now

620
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: to sign non disclosure agreements, but I didn't sign one.

621
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting.

622
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: And I'm not I'm not infringed up on their copyright

623
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: right right, So, and I'm not bound by their membership

624
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: agreements anymore. Right if they're so concerned about if they

625
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: was concerned about me, they need to stop emailing me.

626
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: That's what they need to.

627
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: Do to get you back.

628
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't know what they I don't think

629
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: so I don't think they're trying to get me back.

630
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: But they still email like they need to clear out

631
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: their records and stop emailing me like they I've gotten

632
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: emails about I blocked them for the most part of

633
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: I got some recent third party emails. But before I

634
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: blocked them, I was getting confidential information about their real estate,

635
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: about internal struggles all of that. Oh, look, y'all need

636
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: to get it together. So I ain't worry about I mean,

637
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: even if they tried to, even if they did, and

638
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: what y'all, I couldn't even blame them if they did,

639
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: because this is about money. You know how much money

640
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: one one line can bring in? Yeah, think about it,

641
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 3: You don't how much money. But the thing is we

642
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: should sue them.

643
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: We should sue them.

644
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: For not telling people the spiritual danger like people, people

645
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: could be going to hell behind this, and you should

646
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: tell people that you could be infringing up on their

647
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: spiritual freedoms and tricking them by not telling them things upfront,

648
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: or they join before they pay money to fully disclose

649
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: what they're doing. Why can't you see the rituals before

650
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: you pay four thousand dollars? Right?

651
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: Have you reached out to anybody that you played, that

652
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: you bought in? Have you tried to like all out?

653
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: No? Except for one, oh wow, one the people that

654
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 3: I wrote letters a recommendation for have renounced one of them.

655
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: One of them, she said that God had been dealing

656
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: with her for a year before I even reached out

657
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: to her. I didn't even know. I had no that

658
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: she was going through that. And but all of them

659
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: except for one, has has renounced, and not because not

660
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: because I told them to, Because they saw it. They

661
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: saw the connection and God had already been dealing with

662
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: them see a lot of people, a lot of people

663
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: get the revelation. They just they just ignore it. They

664
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: just be like, I couldn't be I'm not doing that.

665
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot to give up. It's not easy to do. Yeah.

666
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: So a lot of people have already felt felt something

667
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: not right about it, and they just ignore it.

668
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, two more questions. We are dumb,

669
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: but I gotta save your number, man, because I feel

670
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: like we could talk all day.

671
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know I was laughing earlier because when

672
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: we first scheduled, you said, and I looked at the

673
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: time up then and I'm like, Lord, I can run

674
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 3: my mouth. You know what.

675
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm happy, you know my platform is a voice for

676
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: many and I I'm committed to like just being able

677
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: to know, just being able to share these stories and

678
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: you know your story so like I'm I'm intrigued, Like

679
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm.

680
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Feeling guilty, though I ain go loud, be like, Lord,

681
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: I've been talking too much.

682
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: But no, no, but you never know, I always tell

683
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: my professional homegirls, you never know how your storyline could

684
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: be someone else's lifeline. So I think this has been

685
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: an amazing conversation. And I love when I can talk

686
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: to anybody about the Bible and Jesus and God and

687
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: all those good things. So you know, I really appreciate you.

688
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm coming on the show. But we got two more

689
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: questions and that's it. Okay, based on your experience, what

690
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: key consideration is or factors would you advise others to

691
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: take into account before pleasure?

692
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: You said, based on what your experiences?

693
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so this part of your life, like, what are

694
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: some things you think people should consider before they join

695
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: an organization.

696
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing I think we should consider is, uh,

697
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: look at the whole picture. Yeah, the side of something

698
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: that's good or bad, right, and the whole picture. It

699
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: could even be things that are not necessarily directly connected

700
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: to the individual, but it's a part of the picture.

701
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 3: So say, for example, like the fact, like I said,

702
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: look at the fruit, right, the fact that people give

703
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: up their like sacrifice their bodies. Even even if that

704
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: individual person doesn't, there are people somewhere in the world

705
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: frequently who are literally sacrificing their bodies to join these organizations. There,

706
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: even if they'll say that it's the non hazel organization,

707
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 3: which is again looking at the whole picture that on paper,

708
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: they're non hazel organizations, but being somebody turned around to

709
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: hate you, that's deception. Look at that as part of

710
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: the whole picture. If you see that people have died

711
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: or are being hurt or beat or being missed treated,

712
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: or being verbally abused or emotionally abused, gas lid, shunned, bullied,

713
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 3: consider that as part of the whole picture. Because what

714
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: are the like, what spirits would prompt people to behave

715
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 3: that way? What spirits will prompt people to accept that? Right?

716
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: So you have to look at myself and say, what

717
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: would make me accept those things for myself? Is that

718
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: the spirit of God in me? It's that reflective of

719
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: the identity of a daughter of the Most High God.

720
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: Certainly not so because of that, because of that being

721
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: part of the picture, that's something that I should have

722
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: evaluated to say I shouldn't do this, you see what

723
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and then really kind of get the other

724
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: thing I would say, So look at the whole picture,

725
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: And the other thing I would say is what's the

726
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: end goal of your life? You know what I'm saying, Like,

727
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: if it is if you are a person that you

728
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: watch people die and you know that you know people die,

729
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You don't know me, and

730
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: know nobody knows when they're going to die. You can die.

731
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: I could leave out die for being today and pass away.

732
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: I don't know when I'm gonna die, So I have

733
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: to live my life in a way that says that

734
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: I am making arrangements for whatever may happen when I

735
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: leave here. Consider that, or you make such a decision,

736
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: because that's how you should live. When you make every decision,

737
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: every decision, even like if you eat food, like a

738
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: lot of people say, say their grace before they eat

739
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: their food because they don't know if there's something in

740
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: that food that can hurt them or kill them, so

741
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: they make this. You make decisions based off of what

742
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: do you want for your life? How long do you

743
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: want to live, how healthy do you want to live?

744
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: And what do you want? What do you want for

745
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: yourself after you're not living.

746
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: For your soul spirit?

747
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, make decisions based off of those things. What's your

748
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: end game, what's your end goal? And look and count

749
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: that as a part of all of those things. And

750
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: so now it's so much I could say, but I mean, ultimately,

751
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: I guess the reason why we are saying these things

752
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: is because what has to stop happening is the mixture

753
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: in the church. Yeah, even though these are professional organizations,

754
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: professional service or organizations, people are mixing them and bringing

755
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: it into the church and saying it's okay. That's definitely

756
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: what's got to stop. So ultimately we're talking, we're blasting

757
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: and talking about it because of that, not necessarily trying

758
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: to stop people from pledge or trying to necessarily I mean,

759
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: we want that because we don't want people to be

760
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 3: sending against a guy. I want people to be saying,

761
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: want to evangelize the laws, right, But for me, it's

762
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: the mixture. It's the telling people that it's okay when

763
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: it's not. Be upfront and tell people what they getting into.

764
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: Be upfront and tell them what it really is so

765
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: they can make an educated decision, so that they don't

766
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: feel tricked, so that they don't feel mislad. That's why I'm.

767
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, somebody popped in my head he'd be

768
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: wearing his his colors on.

769
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: The pool pit. I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna. I'm

770
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: gonna say name, you.

771
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: Know, saying like.

772
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, last, but not least, what advice would you give

773
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: to others who are considering denouncing their affiliation with a

774
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Greek organization or just a similar organization overall.

775
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: Besides, do it now, don't wait, don't let another day pass. No,

776
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: I would say, the best thing you can do is

777
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: just ask God for grace and mercy to do a

778
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: three day fast. Mm hm, three day fast. Don't eat

779
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: no food. You know what I'm saying. And if your

780
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: life is important to you, if eternal life is important

781
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: to you, if you consider yourself to be a follower

782
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: of Jesus Christ and you want to have eternal life, right,

783
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: if any of those things ring truth for that person,

784
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: take a chance. You know that move, you know coming

785
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: to America and may be on the train where they

786
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: think she'd be like, go on, honey, take a chance,

787
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: take a chance. Turn down your plate for three days.

788
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: I ain't even say it, three twenty four hour days.

789
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Just do like six am to six pm

790
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: or six am to three pm, and don't eat. And

791
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: during the times that you would eat, every single time

792
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: that you would eat, that you feel hungry, pray and

793
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: ask God to show you the truth. Say Lord, I

794
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: heard this. I don't know. I don't really believe it,

795
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take a chance to show me the truth.

796
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: Are you against this? Does this make you sad? Is

797
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 3: this a sin? Before you? Am I being deceived? Pray

798
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: those things for three days from six am to three

799
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: pm and wait for your answer. Genuinely, I'm telling. All

800
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying is seek the Lord. I'm not saying call me.

801
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying watch watch any videos that I'm in.

802
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: I'm not saying message me. I don't want you to

803
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: come to me. I want the people who hear this

804
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: to go God, go to the MOSTI God in Jesus' name,

805
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: and say show me I love you. I want to

806
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: be closer to you. I don't want to get this

807
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: thing wrong. And if that's true, ask them, Hugh, I'll

808
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: promise you if you turn down your because turning down

809
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: your plate says you're serious about it. It says I'll

810
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: make a sacrifice. He not. I'm not saying, make the

811
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: same sacrifice you made a pledge two weeks. Six weeks. No,

812
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: don't make no six week sacrifice. Make a three day one. Yeah,

813
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You gave more you give.

814
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: I gave more to pledge than I did to seek

815
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: out the truth, seek it. Just just give them a

816
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: little time to ask. Even if you don't fast you

817
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Even if you just plain the ask,

818
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: wait for your answer. You'll see.

819
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: Listen, every time I ask God to show me the

820
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: things that is not of him, every single time, and

821
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: I just be like, wow, you quick, do.

822
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: You know what? Because he loves us, he wants us. Yeah,

823
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: you're not orphans. He wants God wants us. He made us,

824
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: He wants us. And there are the things of this

825
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: world that try to separate us from from our creator.

826
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: It's the things of the world that try to separate

827
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: us from our heavenly father. He's our father. He loves us,

828
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: he wants us. And and then but when we get distracted,

829
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: we get told that something else is good for fruits.

830
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: Hello at a eve being tricked by the serpent, he

831
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: said you, it's for this good. It looks good. Right.

832
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 3: I don't want you to be like him. He just

833
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 3: doesn't want eat it, have it. Nothing. You're not gonna die,

834
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: nothing's gonna happen to you. It's the same thing right now.

835
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: He gives us guidelines and boundaries because he loves us,

836
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: he wants to protect us. So that's why he shows you,

837
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: that's why he communicates to you, because he wants us,

838
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: he loves us. And so if people know that, if

839
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 3: I had known that, I wouldn't have made half the

840
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: decision I made in my life. Y'all.

841
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: This is it, man, this was an amazing conversation.

842
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: You know.

843
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you so much. I

844
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: know I told you forty five minutes. We all have

845
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: to break this down to two.

846
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: Cards, right right, but thank you, thank you, thank you

847
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: so much. I think this was such an insightful conversation

848
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just so thankful that we were able to

849
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: meet and make this happen. So y you, thank you,

850
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: thank you, And I hope it was enjoyable for you

851
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: as it was for me.

852
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: I had a great time. I said almost them to

853
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: come on here and talk about all these scriptures. But

854
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: sometimes it just bubble out.

855
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you never know who not who needs it though.

856
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and that's always Ultimately my prayer is that

857
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: even if it's just for one person, because the scripture

858
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: says He'll leave ninety nine for one, yeah, well even

859
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: one person is so important. Yeah yeah, and I'm not

860
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not trying to get anything for myself.

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Speaker 3: I just want people to know that God loves them

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Speaker 3: it fade away. Yeah, whatever it is, whether it is,

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Speaker 3: whatever it is. Yeah, you have paid away.

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Speaker 2: And to the listeners.

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