1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, I'm Matthew Friedman Matt fd orcle. Welcome to 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: the Betting Pros Podcast, brought to you by bet mgim, 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: where you can get a risk free bet up to 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars when you use the highly original promo 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: code of Betting Pros with your first deposit. Here with 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: me for a special Thanksgiving themed episode is Pat Fitzmorris 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: of Fantasy Pros and Betting Pros Fits. We're breaking down 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: all three Thanksgiving games in this episode. And you felt 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: that wasn't enough. You wanted to give even more actionable 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: items to the people listening to this, so we're also 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: going to be ranking some Thanksgiving food stuffs. I'm taking 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: from that that you are a fan of the holiday. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Do you have any big plans? 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, just going up to my mom and stepdads with 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: the family. You know, they're going to have a nice 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: gathering some other family members and friends. It's going to 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: be maybe about sixteen people or so and one dog 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: and yeah. Man, Like, I don't want to overstate this, Friedman, 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to like oversell this podcast. But if 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: you listen to one thanks Giving Day, Football, Gambling and 21 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Food podcast, I think this is the one you should 22 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: listen to. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, that really is selling this premium fits. Why 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: is it that you think this is going to be 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: the one that people should listen to. 26 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I mean, I'm going to be 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: very exuberant in having this discussion about food because I've 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: been dieting throughout November and I'm going on a one 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: day at hiatus like I was. You know how it 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: goes for We're chained to our computers throughout football season, 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: right Like if I didn't have a dog, I wouldn't 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: get any exercise at all during the NFL season. And 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: so you know, I was feeling pretty fat at the 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: end of October, and like I figured, if I rolled 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: into December fat and holiday eating like that was not 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: going to go well. So I needed to take off 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: a few pounds going into December. So now I can 38 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: just be an acceptable level of fat after the holidays 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: and not morbidly obese. 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: That's great, Uh Okay, I so fits as you know, 41 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: and the people listening are already just like get to 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: the shows, like get to the game, get to the game. Okay, 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna save I'm gonna save the food talk, 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: although that really is the part of the show that 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited about. We're gonna talk about the games here. 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: The first game. I gotta say, I love Thanksgiving as 47 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: a holiday because you've got food, you've got football. In theory, 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe you have some family and friends. They're just that's 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: that's an added bonus and again in theory, an added bonus, 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: but lots of football, lots of food. It's for me, 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the best holiday of the year. And kicking it off, 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: we've got the Pills at the Detroit Lions. I've always 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: felt for that first game that is like, can we 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: just always get a better team in here than the Lions? 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: But the Lions have been like, at worst interesting since 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell took over as head coach. And then we're 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: gonna get to see the Bills and intriguing circumstances having 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: just played at Ford Field as the quote unquote home 59 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: team because of Snowbageddon in Buffalo this past weekend. But 60 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: we have the Buffalo Bills at the Detroit Lions. This 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: line is anywhere from nine and a half to ten, 62 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: nine and a half at bet MGM, ten at DraftKings, 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: and the over under is fifty four and a half 64 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: across the market. Oh man, that line has moved up. 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: It was fifty two, I believe when it opened. I 66 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: think it was fifty one in the look Ahead market fits. 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any opinions on this game here? 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. So that's a lot of points. And granted, 69 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: Buffalo has given up twenty five point three a game 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: in their last three, and we know that Detroit is 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, their defense is a sieve. They're gonna get 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: consistently torched. But I just feel like this is too 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: many points. I don't know if Detroit can hold up 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: there into the bargain against this Bill's defense, which is 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: getting healthier. They're not missing some these starters. Now it's 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: possible they could be close to full strength for this one. 77 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, the Lions defense did 78 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: a terrific job of stuffing Saquon Barkley in Week eleven, 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: but they didn't really have to worry about Daniel Jones 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 2: torching them through the air. I don't think they're going 81 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: to be that effective on defense against this you know, 82 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: multi dimensional Bills offense. So I really like the Bills here. 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: I don't think ten points is enough and it's actually 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: juiced towards the Lion at ten points on DraftKings. So yeah, 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: I'll take this one at minus one oh five for 86 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: the Bills because I kind of think the Bills are 87 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: going to smoke them. No Jeffrey Akudah either for the Lions, 88 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: like the one guy in that secondary who can cornerback 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 2: and I know who can cover people. And I know 90 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: you have said you think the Akuda effect is somewhat 91 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: overstated Friedman, but like not having Akudah, their trying to 92 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: cover Steph Diggs and Gabriel Davis is like not a 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: good situation being so I see that the Bills moving 94 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: up and down the field pretty easily of this game. 95 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, so man, I mean I have lots of reasons 96 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: to hate myself. You know. Primary at this point of 97 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: the year is that I'm you know, not eating any 98 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: desserts and I didn't really think it through. I should 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: I should have, like I should have anticipated and had 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: the carve out for like, but Thanksgiving is the one 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: day year I get to eat the delicious pies that 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about later. But okay, so I hate 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: myself because I bet Detroit plus ten early on in 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the lookhead and I bet the under fifty two in 105 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: the look Ahead market. I should have anticipated, even though 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: this has been a year of unders, I should have 107 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: anticipated that this was going to move up. You know, 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Island game. It's not prime time, but it's the only 109 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: game going on at that time, the first game of Thanksgiving. 110 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: You've got the Bills, You've got the Lions, who do 111 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: have an explosive offense and a really bad I should 112 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: have anticipated that this number would move up, and I 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't have bet it when I did. By the way, 114 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: when I bet it fifty two, I logged it in 115 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the Betting pros app, where you can sync up with 116 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: sports books, you can get free betting advice and picks, 117 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: you can track different experts line movement in your own bets, 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: and you can of course get sports betting alerts, and 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: we monitor all the major sportsbooks so you can see 120 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: which book is offering the best line on a bet 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: at any given moments of download the app today in 122 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: the Apple or Google Play. Stour nailed that, just seamlessly 123 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: integrated that into the analysis. So I'm upset with myself 124 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: for betting this early. And I gotta say, initially I 125 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: was on Detroit at plus ten. If I hadn't betted earlier, 126 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I would probably be viewing this as a stay away. 127 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: And I'm still showing some slight value on Detroit, but 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: that isn't really taking into account. What I would say 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: is now the likelihood of as you mentioned, some of 130 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: these defenders coming back for the Bills. Kyrie Lom got 131 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: a full practice on Tuesday, so it looks like he's 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: going to return to action. Of course, also Jordan Poyer 133 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: full practice. You know, he looks healthy. I'm not sure 134 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: about Tremaine Edmonds or Greg Russo, and those are two 135 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: important defenders, but you know, don't I don't know. I 136 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: view this at this point pretty much where it probably 137 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: should be nine and a half ten I think is fair. 138 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I am taking the under in this game. 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: I just again, I wish I wouldn't have been so 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, so on the ball so desirous to 141 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: jump on this, I should have known it would go up. 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: So anyway, I think we're on the same spot here 143 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: of both being on the under. You do like Buffalo 144 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: in this spot, though I do. 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: Does Jamison Williams potential return move the needle and just 146 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: to be clear, we don't have definitive word that Jamison 147 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: Williams is going to be back. We know he's back 148 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: at practice, but we don't know if he is going 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: to actually dress and play. 150 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: For this game. I'm going to be skeptical that he 151 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: actually suits up, and if he does suit up, I'm 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: going to be skeptical that he plays a lot of snaps. 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: And then even if he does play a lot of snaps, 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to be skeptical that in his first game 155 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: back from you know, significant ACL injury, that he's able 156 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: to play significantly better than DJ Shark. So yeah, I 157 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: don't think it moves in needle at all. The one 158 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: thing that does give me a little bit of pause 159 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: here underdogs. Still they continue to crush this year, ninety 160 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: one sixty nine and four against this bread and a 161 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: nine and a half ten point underdog in their home field, 162 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, on short rest, like but you know, like 163 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: they're used to playing the Thanksgiving Day game. You have 164 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: Buffalo with the travel issues of they were going to 165 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: be at home, then they traveled to Detroit, then they 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: traveled back home for some reason, and then now they're 167 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: traveling back to Detroit. I don't know. I feel like 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: this number is probably right. But if I had to 169 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: bet a side, man, I don't know, I'd probably want 170 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: to do Detroit and then I would hate myself for it. 171 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of hating myself, I'm a Cowboys fan. People know this, 172 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: and so Thanksgiving this is sort of it's my day. 173 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys national television. Everyone has to watch them. 174 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: They often win. And Man, nine and a half is 175 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: the number that I'm seeing here for the Cowboys. Let 176 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: me make sure I'm seeing this right. It's actually nine 177 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: at bet MGM, the outlier in the market here, So 178 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: if you like the Cowboys, that's a place to do it. 179 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: And remember, at bet MGM you can get that risk 180 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: free bet of up to one thousand dollars with the 181 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: promo code Betty Bros. With your first deposit. Nine and 182 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: a half. Forty four and a half is the number 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: for the total here, actually forty five and a half. 184 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Now it's moved up, Fitz. Do you have any opinions 185 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: on this game here? 186 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Normally, Friedman, I would like the team coming off 187 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: the embarrassing loss going up against the team that won 188 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: in a cake walk and is feeling fat and happy, 189 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: and pleased with themselves. But on Sunday, the Giants lost 190 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: cornerbacks Adorri Jackson and Fabian Moreau. They've got all sorts 191 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: of injury issues on the offensive line, like Evan Neil, 192 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: their stud rookie, is dealing with an injury. Offensive right 193 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: tackle Tyre Phillips has some sort of neck issue, center 194 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: John Feliciano has some sort of neck issue, and they 195 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: lost Wandale Robinson who tore his ACL. So they've got 196 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: a lot of issues up front on offense. And this 197 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: was like we saw the problems they had trying to 198 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 2: get that running game going against the lowly Detroit Lions, 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: who had been one of the worst run defenses in 200 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: the NFL. And you know, they looked like the two 201 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: thousand Ravens against the Giants last Sunday, Like the Giants 202 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: just couldn't get anything going. And then we saw Daniel 203 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: Jones kind of revert to like old Daniel Jones, the 204 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: turnover factory. So, yeah, if they're made to be one 205 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: dimensional because with this makeshift offensive line they can't get 206 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: the running game going, that does not set up well 207 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: for them. Because Daniel Jones, he's short on weapons to 208 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: begin with, some of his worst instincts kick in, and 209 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: you know he takes some chances with throws that he shouldn't. 210 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: So man like. This Dallas defense, too, is so good. 211 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: We saw them just in Kirk cousins lap all game 212 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: on Sunday, like they were just in his grill NonStop. 213 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: It's just a tough defense. Like I can't see the 214 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: Giants being able to do business against this defense with 215 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: any sort of consistency. So man like, I feel bad 216 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: taking favorites with all these big lines. Those aren't the 217 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: bats I really like making. But I'm taking another big 218 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: favorite here, Friedman. I like Dallas, and I don't think 219 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: this goes over. I think it stays under because I 220 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: don't think the Giants can score enough points to push 221 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: this game over. 222 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you on the under, and I do agree 223 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: with that thesis of the Giants. It's it's based on 224 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: the Giants' offense going against the Cowboys defense. I don't 225 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: think they're going to be able to do enough to 226 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: drive this game to the over. And then on the 227 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: flip side with the Cowboys, assuming they get out to 228 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: a decent lead, I think they're going to run the ball. 229 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: I think it will be you know, Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elliott, 230 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: a very ground based attack where they just control the game, 231 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: grind out the clock. And so yeah, I could see 232 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: how the under hits, and I am showing value on 233 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: the under The thing is, when there's value on the under, 234 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: there's also normally value on the underdog. And you know, 235 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: based on my number, I have this at eight and 236 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: I hate myself for it. And I don't like that 237 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: number at eight, you know, like I was, you know, 238 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: like Pirates of the Caribbean. It's like it's more of 239 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: a guideline than an actual rule. You know, like I 240 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: don't you know, like I'm showing value, but like I 241 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: don't buy this at all because, as you mentioned, this 242 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: is a significant injured defense, and this is a team 243 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: that hasn't had a lot of talent to begin with, 244 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: and now they're really running thin, you know, with the 245 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: injuries that they've had, and this is a total smash 246 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: spot for Dak. Like Dak in division is twenty three 247 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: and eight against the spread for his career, Like he 248 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,359 Speaker 1: just destroys the teams that he knows. Dak has a favorite. 249 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, people talk about how the Cowboys are a 250 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: public team and maybe they tend to get inflated. I 251 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: think that narrative is a little bit of a falsehood, 252 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, like maybe the public tends to bet on 253 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys more than they should, But like, I don't 254 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: think that actually moves the lines all that much. What 255 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: moves lines is when sharp betters bet on a team 256 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: that will move a line. But I don't think Dak 257 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: has been inflated as a favorite. You know, Historically you 258 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: can look at other other players who have been inflated 259 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: as favorites. That's not the case with Dak. He's thirty 260 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: six twenty six and two against the spread as a favorite, 261 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: and as a favorite in division is nineteen and six 262 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: against this So like, this is the spot in which 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: I just expect Dak and the Cowboys to crush whoever 264 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: they're playing against. The thing is Daniel Jones is also, 265 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: like he's good as a road dog, thirteen and five 266 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: against the spread as a road dog. If I had 267 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: to honestly, like, I'm probably not gonna bet. I'm not 268 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna bet the side. I haven't bet it yet. I 269 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: probably will take the under on the total. I'm gonna 270 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: wait just a little bit more to see if it 271 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: moves up, because I could see it continuing to be 272 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: bet up, just with people wanting to have some Thanksgiving 273 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Day action. But I think the under is going to 274 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: be the bet that I make for this game. If 275 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I had to take a side, man, I would it 276 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: would probably be I hate going against my number, so 277 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I wouldn't. I guess I'm just not 278 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: gonna bet a side. But if I had to bet 279 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: a side, I think it'd have to be the Cowboys here, 280 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: because I just do not feel good about the Giants. 281 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to get it at ten, 282 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: if you wait, this game will go to ten. I 283 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: would be willing to guarantee it. The public. The public 284 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 2: team thing is gonna matter when people log on, log 285 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: onto their computers and Thanksgiving morning and start hitting the 286 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: Cowboys like this numbers going up, I'm totally convinced of it. 287 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I yeah, I can see it getting 288 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: to ten and even then, I just I don't know 289 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: if one, but if it gets to ten and a half, 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: I might take the Giants, but I don't want to 291 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: ruin my Thanksgiving by watching the Giants cover and just 292 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that all right, the final 293 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: game here, the nightcap that we have for Thanksgiving, the 294 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: New England Patriots at the Minnesota Vikings. I mean, who 295 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: wants to watch this game? But it's it's the only 296 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: game on is Thursday night football, and I mean, yeah, 297 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching it. Two and a half three 298 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: is the line out there, three minus one oh five 299 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: with the Vikings favorite at bet MGM, there are some 300 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: two and a half out there, so you know, kind 301 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: of in that two point seven five zone is where 302 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: this number really is. And then forty two and a 303 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: half is the over under that we're seeing here in 304 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: the betting pros ods page. Fits thoughts on this game here. 305 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I don't know if people do want 306 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: to watch it, And it's probably a good thing that 307 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: we're going to be driving back, so I'm gonna be 308 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: listening on the radio and not actually seeing this. But 309 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: I am kind of intrigued by the matchup though, and 310 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: I think most power rankings are going to tell you 311 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: that the Patriots are the better team. I just don't 312 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: know if I really believe it. Friedman, like this Patriots 313 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: passing game is so limited with Mac Jones, who realistically 314 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: is probably the second best quarterback on the Patriots, but 315 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: they're sticking with them. I guess I want to like 316 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: the Vikings coming off that embarrassing home loss to the Lions, 317 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't be surprised if they stubbed their toe again. 318 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: And I know, like I was just talking to a 319 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: friend of mine in Minneapolis today, he totally expects them 320 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: to stub their toe again on Thanksgiving. They had major 321 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: problems with pass protection in that blowout loss to the Cowboys, 322 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: and Dallas is number one in the league in pressure 323 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 2: rate and oh who's number two? The New England Patriots. Yea, 324 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: And now they come to town to pressure this Vikings 325 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: offensive line that's probably gonna be without Christian Darrisaw again 326 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: a key component. Yeah. Like I also kind of wonder 327 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: about Justin Jefferson's health, Like he's got this mild foot 328 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: sprain and you know, no, no problem, full practice, He's 329 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: gonna play, But like, is he the same guy with 330 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: this foot sprain? Like he kind of got held in check. 331 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: And I know that was Kirk Cousins didn't really have 332 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: time to throw, but I'm a little worried that maybe 333 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: he's not wearing the Superman ass on the front of 334 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: his chest with this injury, so Man, But the other side, Friedman, 335 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: big injuries for the Patriots on their offensive line, like 336 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: David and their center and their team captain. Like he's 337 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: out for the season. Maybe he's got some sort of 338 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: leg injury that they think could be season ending. I 339 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: don't know if they have officially declared him out for 340 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: the rest of the year, but he's definitely not gonna 341 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: play in this game. And they also lost Isaiah Win, 342 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: their left tackle, to a foot injury in the last game. 343 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: Not sure about his status. I believe he's questionable. And 344 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: we saw the Patriots struggle with the running game against 345 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: the Jets this past week, so you know, like the 346 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: Jets run defense is better than the Vikings run defense, 347 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: but without two starters in the offensive line, I don't 348 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 2: know how well the Patriots are going to be able 349 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: to control the line of scrimmage. I don't love this. 350 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: I don't love either side in this. If I were 351 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 2: forced to bet this, and I've already put a bet 352 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: down without being forced, but I put a small bat 353 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: down on the Vikings Freedman, and I'm doing a clean 354 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 2: sweep of the unders here, like I just don't think 355 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: there's enough offense generated here with the Viking is going 356 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: up against that really fierce pass rush for the Patriots 357 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: and pretty good run defense too, and like, I just 358 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: don't believe in the Patriots passing game even though the 359 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: Vikings can sort of be had in the secondary. So 360 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: like the under here and a small lean towards the Vikings. 361 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the under as well. I am impressed 362 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: by that that Patriots defense and it specifically as you 363 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: mentioned their pass defense. You know, they can it's it's like, 364 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, the combination of coverage and pass rush. But 365 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: they're number one in uh you know, drop back e 366 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: p A drop back success rate past d VOA on defense. 367 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Like they're like they're legit in in their pass defense, 368 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: and they don't have a lot outside of justin Jefferson. 369 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: They don't really have a lot of established weapons, uh, 370 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of pass catchers for the Vikings. 371 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Hawkinson has been impressive in his few games there, but 372 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's still new to the system, and I'm 373 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: not really buying Adam Thielen at this point in his career, 374 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: and without Christian Darris, I you know, as you mentioned 375 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: out with a concussion. That is, that is a significant 376 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: loss because he's not just the best offensive lineman that 377 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: they have, he's one of the best offensive linemen in 378 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: the league. So yeah, I think I think we saw 379 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: what Kirk Cousins last week looked like when he was 380 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: under pressure. That was that was not good at all. 381 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: We have Kirk Cousins now in primetime, which is, you know, 382 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: like a little more of a meme than I think 383 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: it probably should be, but it's it's not nothing, you know. 384 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: So we've got that and Bill Belichick, you know, road 385 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: underdog twenty seven, thirteen and two against the spread for 386 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: his career. And Kevin O'Connell, like I think he's he's 387 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: been fine as a head coach, like he had I 388 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: don't you know, I think we saw the Vikings it 389 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: very exposed this past week, and to this point, I 390 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: don't think we've seen anything that makes me think Kevin 391 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: O'Connell like this is the reason why they've been outperforming, 392 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, in these one score games, because Kevin O'Connell 393 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: is great in this one specific situation, great in third 394 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: and short or you know, aggressive and going forward on 395 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: fourth down, or like great in the red zone. Anything 396 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: like that. It just felt like they had a lot 397 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: of variants. They had a lot of things breaking in 398 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: their direction, and that explained their record. So Kevin O'Connell 399 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: and the head coaching matchup against Bill Belichick, I think 400 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: he loses. And part of it is that he's a 401 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: rookie coach playing on short rest, and like not even 402 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: like from the player perspective, but from the coaching perspective, 403 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the game planning perspective. I trust Belichick even if you 404 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: think these guys have just four days to prepare. I 405 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: trust Belichick on four days much more than I trust 406 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: the rookie head coach on four days of planning. And 407 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: I would say Belichick has been through this before, like 408 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: his staff is probably better prepared to look ahead and say, okay, 409 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks, we're going to have four days. 410 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: We need to start laying some foundation now for the 411 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: game plan for that upcoming week. I would trust his 412 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: staff to be able to plan further in advance than 413 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: I would for the Vikings. So that also puts me 414 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a little more on the Patriots. I wish I had 415 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: bet it when this number was three, was like a 416 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: clean three. Now it's a Juice three, So I'm probably 417 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna be staying away from the side. If I have 418 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: any action on this, it will probably be the under 419 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I do not like the Vikings 420 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: in the spot. 421 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm with you. Well I'm not with you because 422 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: I'm betting the Vikings. But man, now you make me 423 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: feel bad by bringing up the kirk Cousins primetime thing, 424 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: Like I'm betting Kirk Cousins in primetime? Like what the 425 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: hell am I doing? So anyone considering that should really 426 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: think twice. And I wish you would warn me about 427 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: that before I made that bad freemom. 428 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if only you could have looked at the 429 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: schedule and seeing that this was the evening game on Thanksgiving. 430 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get into some some food talk. 431 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: Before that, we were giving away a free sign Josh 432 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: Jacobs Raiders jersey from Pristine Auction. 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But as 443 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, as you are aware, this season, I've you know, 444 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: kind of gone on some sort of kick of like 445 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: no desserts, you know, at least five hours of sleep 446 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: a night, which people are like, oh, that sounds ridiculous 447 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: that it's so low of a baseline, but I need 448 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: that baseline to make sure that there are some nights 449 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: I get at least five instead of three, you know, 450 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: exercising some each day, no alcohol, and I gotta say, 451 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving, this I really in the future when I 452 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: do this, I think it's good, you know, to have 453 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: the sort of self discipline. But in the future when 454 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: I do it, I need to say, I'm carving out 455 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: one day, you know, for Thanksgiving and maybe one day 456 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: for Christmas where I can eat desserts because pies, like 457 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: I live for pies. Pies are my favorite thing in 458 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: the world. And you know, I'm not gonna partake this year, 459 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: which is sad. But if you talk to me about 460 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 1: all the pies you are going to be eating, then 461 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: maybe I can vicariously enjoy pie Fest. 462 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, you've already chased away all our listeners, Freedman, with 463 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: your tale of your monk like existence during football season. 464 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: So but yeah, and like I created this carve out 465 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: for myself when I said I was going to be 466 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: on a November long diet. Of course I'm not sticking 467 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: to that on Thanksgiving, Like, I live for this stuff. 468 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: So I will be having sweets. Yeah, top pies. I 469 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: mean at our place, it's going to be apple and pumpkin, 470 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: I think, like, but if forced to say, I think 471 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: I like sweet potato pile a little bit more than 472 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: pumpkin pie. All right, really really close. You know, I'm 473 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: going to give an edge to sweet potato. I think 474 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: it's just got a little bit more flavor. And you know, 475 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 2: another big holiday pie that's that's way up there. I'm 476 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: not sure if you're a pecan pie guy, but like, 477 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: you know, my wife makes a really good one with 478 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: some bourbon mixed in and enough that you can taste 479 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: the bourbon. Yes, it's good stuff, man. And I was 480 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: never a pecan pie guy until my wife started baking 481 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 2: these pies and. 482 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: So I absolutely love that. So in the non pie category, 483 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: I really like the sweet potatoes with marshmallows on them, 484 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: or some people we'll do yams either one. I don't 485 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: have a sophisticated palette. I can't really taste the difference. 486 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: And then also, like my mom would make a like 487 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: a green bean cast role. I know, like cast roles 488 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: can kind of be like a bigger thing in the Midwest. 489 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know if like people cast roll it 490 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: up your you're Thanksgiving, but like my mom, it's the 491 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: I think, like the one time of year she makes 492 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: this cast role. So I just have this strong association 493 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: of that cast role with Thanksgiving. I don't know if 494 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: I really even like the cast role that much. It's 495 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: just when I think of Thanksgiving, I think of that 496 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: and there's some comfort there. 497 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's definitely. It's not like a regional thing 498 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: or anything. I think green bean cast role is sort 499 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: of a staple for a lot of people. But let 500 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 2: me ask you this, Friedman, I'll give you a quick 501 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: hierarchy of sides. For me, the metal stand is stuffing, 502 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: and like at our place, you know, my mom uses 503 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: my late grandmother's recipe, which is like pull the turkey 504 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: organs from the turkey, grind it up, throw that stuff 505 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: in the stuffing. Like a cardiologist would be like waving 506 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: his hands like no, don't eat that. And I don't 507 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: care if I'm losing like a week off my life 508 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: every time I eat stuffing at Thanksgiving. You know, just 509 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 2: when I'm on my deathbed, remind me of the flavor 510 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: of that stuffing and I'll die with the smile on 511 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: my face. I'm totally cool with it. Number two got 512 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: to get something healthy in there, so you know, Brussels sprouts, 513 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: which is kind of like it's like a carb disguised 514 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 2: as a vegetable, which is great, you know, especially if 515 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: you throw some bacon bits in there. Balsamic glaze. Beautiful. 516 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: The number three, like, I just have to default to 517 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: mashed potatoes. But this is only because you know, I 518 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: grew up in Wisconsin and I don't think in the 519 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: Northern States, mac and cheese is really a thing for Thanksgiving, 520 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: like for a Thanksgiving side. Now, mac and cheese is great. 521 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not gonna get me to bad mouth 522 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: mac and cheese. Throw some bacon bits in that through 523 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: some fancy cheese like gray Air or Gouda, like just 524 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: heaven better than mashed potatoes. But I just don't know 525 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: if I can count on that as a Thanksgiving side 526 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: because it's never been a thing with my family or 527 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: a lot of other families I know from that part 528 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: of the country. 529 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: Okay, totally with you on the mac and cheese. Great call, 530 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: but you're right some some families, some regions, they just 531 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: don't do it, but I think they should do it. Okay, 532 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: the stuffing, is there apples in the stuffing? 533 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: No, not the one, not my family rescue. 534 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: Okay, obviously I'm not going to disparage your your grandmother 535 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I stuffing. I don't think you can have a bad 536 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: kind of stuffing. The stuffing that I tend to like 537 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: more than others. Like I never had apples in stuffing 538 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: until maybe like a few years ago, and it's like, 539 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: oh this is this is like a nice little wrinkle 540 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: love that love the Brussels sprouts. What I'm taking from 541 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: this is you really like bacon and everything. Just if 542 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: you could put bacon in it. It's like bacon in 543 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: your Turkey's like, oh, what a great idea. 544 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: Can't go wrong with bacon exactly, throw it in the 545 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: apple pie. I would eat it so I could. 546 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: I could see that all right. On the pies, pumpkin pie, 547 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: sweet potato pie, I think that's gotta be number one. 548 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: I can't really taste much of a difference between sweet 549 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: potato pie and pumpkin pie. I just don't have the 550 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: palette sophistication, But I yah, anyone who prefers one over 551 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: the other, I'm not going to argue with you on that. 552 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: Cherry pie for me, that's like, that's probably the number 553 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: one every day of the year other than Thanksgiving, but 554 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: a very strong number two for me. Anytime cherry pie 555 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: is available, I'm having multiple slices of it. And then 556 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: number three pecan pie. And do you say pecan or pecan? 557 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: Uh? Pecan pecan? Maybe that's more northern Southern bag pecan pecan. 558 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely bourbon like I'd say, like bourbon like that's 559 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: the key recipe on the pecan pie, having bourbon in there, 560 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, absolutely love that. And then apple pie 561 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: can't go wrong with that, I know I'm throwing in. 562 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Apple pie is the fourth one. I'm gonna say, further 563 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: down the list, but still in the top ten peach pie. 564 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Totally love peach pie, but sometimes not really thought of 565 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: as a Thanksgiving pie. But I think you can have 566 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: peach pie anytime of the year. Dead last, absolute dead last. 567 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Mince meat pie. Don't even bring that stuff anywhere near me. 568 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: The idea of having meat in pie and serving that 569 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: as a dessert is blasphemous. Have you ever had mince 570 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: meat pie? 571 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: No, and I have no interest in trying it. It 572 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: looks disgusting. 573 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds disgusting and it looks worse. 574 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: So and what kind of meat is in a mincemeat pie? 575 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: Like? What is that? I believe it's beef, but yeah, 576 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can't vouch for that, but 577 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's beef. Maybe it's a little bit 578 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: of dealer's choice. 579 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: Okay, A worthy a worthy last place finisher, no question. 580 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, all right, fits, I hope you have a 581 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: great time stuff in your face on Thanksgiving and watching 582 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: some football and pretending not to be annoyed by the 583 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: people who are talking to you while football is being played. 584 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: Tell people everything that you have going on for the 585 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: rest of the week at fantasy pros and betting for us. 586 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so It's gonna be much the same schedule as usual, rankings, updates, 587 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: a Twitter takeover on Sunday, but there is also going 588 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: to be a special Twitter takeover on Thanksgiving morning from 589 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: I believe ten am to eleven am Eastern Time, when 590 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to jump in and answer starts a questions 591 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: for people who you know. I'll take any start said questions, 592 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: but some people got to make those tough calls on 593 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving Day players, so I'll be happy to help 594 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: with that. 595 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: True man of the people. You are fits all right, 596 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. I'm Matthew Freeman, Matteth the Orgle. 597 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Check out Betting Pros and Fantasy Pros for all my 598 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: work Best Bets, player props, Fantasy Favorites, player projections and rankings, 599 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: and more. The Best Bets episode, usually on Thursday, will 600 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: come out on Friday this week. 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