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Speaker 2: Don't your Fortune five hundred company give you a date

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Speaker 1: Today we have a special guest diving into a topic

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Speaker 1: you may not realize you need to hear, so stay

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Speaker 1: tuned because this could help you create another stream of

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Speaker 1: income or even transition careers. Tamra Meclamore is the founder

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Speaker 1: of Tamra Meclamore Enterprises. She's an executive consultant, a Certified

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Speaker 1: Project Management Professional or PMP instructor, and a sought after

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Speaker 1: award winning speaker. Her expertise lies in coaching mid career

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Speaker 1: professional women empowering them with the necessary skills, confidence, and

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Speaker 1: language to obtain their PMP certification and secure significant career advancements.

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Speaker 1: Through her PMP Exam two week intensive, she has successfully

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Speaker 1: shortened the traditional preparation timeline, enabling candidates to pass their

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Speaker 1: PMP Exam within thirty days, a process that typically takes

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Speaker 1: six to eight months. With a wealth of experience spanning

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Speaker 1: over twenty five years in various industries including technology, federal government,

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Speaker 1: and aviation, Tamra has risen from being a project manager

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Speaker 1: to now serving as the Chief Impact Officer or CIO

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Speaker 1: of her own company. Tamar's expertise has been recognized through

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Speaker 1: her appearances as a guest on The Women of Project

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Speaker 1: Management and the Harvard Business Review, and she's also been

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Speaker 1: a keynote speaker at prestigious events. Now, y'all, there is

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Speaker 1: so much more we can say about Tamra, but we

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Speaker 1: want you to hear it from her words. So, Tamra,

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Speaker 1: welcome to cultivating her space.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm super excited to be here, Lazy, I'm so,

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Speaker 2: so so excited.

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Speaker 3: Yay. We are definitely looking forward to this conversation, and

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Speaker 3: so we are going to dive right in with our

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Speaker 3: quote of the day. Now, Tamra, this quote will sound

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Speaker 3: familiar to you because this was all throughout. I saw

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Speaker 3: it multiple times on your Instagram page, okay, and it

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Speaker 3: felt relevant to this conversation. Life is too short to

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Speaker 3: work a job you hate. I'm gonna say that again. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: you already know how we do. I'm gonna say it

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Speaker 3: again for the folks in the back. Life is too

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Speaker 3: short to work a job you hate. Now, Tim, when

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Speaker 3: you when you think of this particular quote and the

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Speaker 2: Because there's a job on every corner, you know, the

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Speaker 2: internet streets. What have you thinking that? The scarcity mindset? Oh,

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Speaker 2: I need to have this good, comfortable job. You know,

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Speaker 2: and a job is relationship. You're there five days a week,

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Speaker 2: how many you know, weeks and month and years? Are

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Speaker 1: Dazz Well we can't wait to get the wisdom to

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Speaker 1: and how can that benefit their lives? Okay, so let

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Speaker 1: me break this down. The PMP certification, the project management certification.

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Speaker 1: It was traditionally for US in tech and government industries

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Speaker 2: However you want to move in an organization, you have

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you for that. That is so important. So

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Speaker 3: tell us, let's back up a little bit. Tell us

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Speaker 3: your origin story and how did you get into P

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Speaker 1: And that's a great transition. Because we want to hear

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Speaker 1: So was there a moment when you realized that you

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Speaker 2: What do you want to do next? To go here?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to move up? Do you? They would

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Speaker 2: And so we had these conversations, real conversations on a

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Speaker 2: You have you do have to surround yourself with people

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Speaker 3: There we go, Yes, Gym's dropped yes, yes, okay, so

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Speaker 3: you said you were working on you were getting promoted

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Speaker 3: like every six months or so, right, yes, and you're

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Speaker 3: our mentors were asking like, okay, what are your life plans,

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Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking secretly, I can't do that because

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Speaker 2: not leaving without a package.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I am sorry, I'm not going to go. And I

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Speaker 2: do wrong? And next time I go back into workforce,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do this a little different. And so

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Speaker 2: that's one of the cornerstones of project management lessons learned.

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Speaker 2: What lesson did you learn, tammor Do not take that

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Speaker 2: So tho I learned is that I could stop, I

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Speaker 3: What does that two week time off really look like

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Speaker 2: Yes, So we got to back up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: That's where you have to negotiate. You have to know

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Speaker 2: This is this relationship part. You have to understand what

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Speaker 1: That is so wise. Love that so much, and I

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Speaker 1: want to share something with you, timor So, when I

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're probably familiar with the project management tool,

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Speaker 1: to ask you what or how can the PMP certification

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you don't gather those requirements before you even interview,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna double what tappen into that really quick gammer.

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Speaker 1: So in addition, so it sounds like it'll help with

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Speaker 2: What we gonna do? We need to remove a truck

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Speaker 2: not get a job. I was told over and over

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Speaker 2: and over, and I never forget I had my fourth

433
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: or fifth round with Coca Cola. And this is back

434
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 2: in the old days, when they called you back to

435
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: tell you you did not get the job. I had

436
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: to hold the tier in, hold it so it would

437
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Speaker 2: not come out. But this is what they told me.

438
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Speaker 2: We really really wanted you. If we had two spots,

439
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: we would hire you, but we had to take somebody

440
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: did not have a degree, but they had their P

441
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: and P certification. Yes, I got told this over and

442
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Speaker 2: over and over. I was killing it. I was in

443
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Speaker 2: the billion dollar club note million b with a billion

444
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Speaker 2: and I could not get a job because I did

445
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: not have that P and P. It holds a lot

446
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Speaker 2: of weight. And so to answer your question, women that

447
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: don't have their degree, this P and P will just

448
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: propel you above everybody that have a degree, because if

449
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: you look at these job requirements, it don't say anything

450
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: about a degree anymore. Take a look. It really doesn't,

451
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: but it will say P and P require ad job certification,

452
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: require all these certifications. Because these certifications let you manage

453
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Speaker 2: a project from beginning to end. Rescue a project and

454
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: like I said, work with the tech team, the logistics,

455
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: the warehouse, the end users. You can use this to education.

456
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: I have teachers that are transition to project management. They're

457
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: using that curriculum project into a real life project. Let

458
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: me tell you, ladies, I went to the Zaba University

459
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: of New Orleans where most of my friends are doctors

460
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: or pharmacists that a lot of them want to stop practicing.

461
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: Do you know they're told if they want to move

462
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: up and manage a hospital or facility, they have to

463
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Speaker 2: go back to school and get an MBA or this

464
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: thing called a P and P. So I have doctors

465
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Speaker 2: and pharmacists now coming to get their P and P,

466
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: especially when they retire. So this certification is for everyone,

467
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: so especially the women that don't have degrees. Oh my god,

468
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: this is it. This is the ticket because you can

469
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: get this within thirty days versus a degree in three

470
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: or four years. This is the ticket.

471
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Speaker 1: I'm glad we're having this conversation because I'm like, let

472
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Speaker 1: me get my pm P as well, because come on now,

473
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Speaker 1: but I think you're told me, okay, right, We're like

474
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Speaker 1: we're going to sign up. So one of the things

475
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to chamber you mentioned earlier.

476
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Speaker 1: You said you are the prize right when you're negotiating

477
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Speaker 1: and interviewing, And I know that in the beginning of

478
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Speaker 1: my career, especially working in tech, with all the bells

479
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: and whistles and all the things they offer, all the perks,

480
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Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm just happy to be here.

481
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand my value, right, So, how can

482
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Speaker 1: someone do an honest self evaluation and figure out what

483
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: they really bring to the table when they're just starting

484
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: out or maybe they're just in a space of life

485
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Speaker 1: where they're having trouble seeing their true value and worth, Like,

486
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Speaker 1: what are some best practices and how can they so

487
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: that self evaluation?

488
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that self evaluation. So we have

489
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 2: to do this on a regular basis, and not yearly,

490
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: not even quarterly anymore, because ladies, what did you eat

491
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: on the last Tuesday? What did you wear last Wednesday?

492
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: Now?

493
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: We don't know? So how do you know what projects

494
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: you did months ago? We don't know. So I have

495
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: my ladies that I coach keep a brag book every month.

496
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: You need to be writing those projects down. And when

497
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: you keep your brag book, you're like, whoa I did? WHOA?

498
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: Whoa?

499
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: You can see it in black and white. I had

500
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: a client, literally, her company laid off twice this year.

501
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: Her leadership got laid off, her manager, and her boss's boss.

502
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: In the midst of that, she got a twenty six

503
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: thousand dollar raise. Because it is brag book. When it's

504
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: in black and white, there's no denying it. So that's

505
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: what you have to do. Like you said, Terry, the

506
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: self assessment on a regular basis, you bring to the table.

507
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: And let me be very clear, because your question was

508
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: what if somebody's new? I love this question. Sometimes not

509
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: knowing is just as good. I'm gonna say this again,

510
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: sometimes not having all that corporate baggage, you understand that

511
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna go in and ask a lot of questions.

512
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: And that's how I moved up really really quick because

513
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: my aunt and family members told me that that's what

514
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: you bring to the table. You're a sponge and you

515
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: can learn quickly, but you have to know that, understand that,

516
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: and walk in that power. Let me tell you, I'm

517
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta and some of these major corporations they

518
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: have these Georgia tech grads. They know nothing. I'm not

519
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: taking anything away. They're really really smart, but when they

520
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: sit down, they have to sit down next to me

521
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: and what are you doing and going in this system?

522
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: But guess what they think they're arise. You can't tell

523
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: them they not. You can't tell them ain't gonna diploma,

524
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: not even dry. But you can't liminate not the prize.

525
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: That's how we need to show up.

526
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: Yes, that is exactly how we need to show up,

527
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: recognizing that we are the prize. So Tim, were you?

528
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: We keep talking about this course? Yeah, all right, all right,

529
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: so break it down for us, tell us, tell us

530
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: what your course offers, and what what it offers and

531
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: why this particular certification is more important than any other certification.

532
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So my course is different because there are a

533
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: lot of people teaching project management the certification. I actually

534
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: teach project management. There's a difference. Most of these courses

535
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: are teaching you how to pass an exam. No, no, no, no,

536
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: I am teaching you project management. I am going through

537
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: my examples. I'm making everybody in my boot camp go

538
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: over their examples of what they're doing day to day.

539
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: So you got off work, you need to tell me

540
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: how would you have done this different had you known

541
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: how to gather requirements? How would you have done this different?

542
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: If you would have talked to the business and the

543
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: end user. And if everybody can't tell me that, then

544
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: you didn't get it. So they're showing up different immediately.

545
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: So that's the biggest thing that you get. And then

546
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: with that you get your confidence. And then in addition

547
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: to that, we go over all the curriculum. I help

548
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: them do a baseline. Of course, we create a schedule,

549
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: and I'm laughing because my clients think I'm crazy. I

550
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: make them do a schedule. I really want them to

551
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: do it before the boot camp starts. They're like, well, Tima,

552
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: we haven't taken the class, but don't your Fortune five

553
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: hundred company give you a date the first day of

554
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: the project. And You're like, where did they get this

555
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: damn day from? But don't you implement hook a crook

556
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: evening weekends. Don't you get it done? We gotta do

557
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: the same thing for us. So I treat my boot

558
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: camp like a project. I make them get their application approved,

559
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: most of them before the boot camp. I make them

560
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: create that study schedule, schedule the exam. I'm not waiting

561
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: until they're ready, because you're never gonna be ready, but

562
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna prepare you. So I have to change that

563
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: mindset and we have a good time. We go through

564
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: the questions, the drills and we actually have fun. I'm

565
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: telling you people they withdraw the like oh my god.

566
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: The Wednesday before boot camp is ended, they start getting said.

567
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: They're like, we're not gonna see you no more. I'm like,

568
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: yes you are, Yes you are, Yes you are. So

569
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: after the boot camp it's me and them one on one,

570
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm coaching one on one. In addition to that, the

571
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: cohorts stick together. So each cohorst stick together. They have

572
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: a group chat. They meet at least one some of

573
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: them twice a week to go over the questions and

574
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you until the wheels fall off, until everybody passes.

575
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: We have one person from December that has not passed.

576
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: It just warmed my heart. Her cohort, they're in the

577
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: group chat. What day do you want to meet? Let's

578
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: go over some questions. Because I was gonna have to

579
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: get that collar on her. I had sent her on

580
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: a nasty grandma, you know, on email, like if you

581
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: don't respond, But I did see her group coming to

582
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: her rescue and then the cohorts. I'm not finished. The

583
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: cohort stick together. I was with a client today she

584
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: said her third anniversary is coming up because I still

585
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: coach some of them afterwards. They're doing meetups, they're doing referrals.

586
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: It is a community. So that's what separates my boot

587
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: camp from these other fly by Night boot camps.

588
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Well, one, you are a vibe and are so fun

589
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: and the energy is energy, and so I know that

590
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: your program is definitely worth it. So I mean, we

591
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: can talk about this at the end as well. But

592
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: the folks are interested in signing up or learning more.

593
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Right now, where should they go? They're like, I need

594
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: to do this now.

595
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Yes, they need to go to I want MYPMP dot com.

596
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: I have a free checklist. They can answer some questions

597
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: because I want people to see I'm a project manager

598
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: for real. Right now without the certification I have, your

599
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: podcast will be on there. I have a lot of goodies,

600
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: but they can schedule a one on one with me.

601
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Speaker 2: There's so many myths in these in and their streets,

602
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: and I want to be able to dispel the myths.

603
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: So they get my calendar on there and they can registers.

604
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: They know they're ready. Yes, okay, I just went to

605
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: the link. This pink suit is fire, Okay, come on.

606
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: Photos yes, y'all go visit this link.

607
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: It's good. I love it. I want to ask another

608
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: question to Camra. What's a myth about career growth or

609
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: certifications that you wish more people would stop believing?

610
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Speaker 3: Mmm?

611
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: They have ooh this girl, ooh ooh, there's so many.

612
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: The biggest myth is waiting for the right time. I

613
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: think that's the biggest one that just irks me because

614
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: my motto is my other motto is stay ready so

615
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: you don't have to get ready. And these companies are

616
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: not loyal, so you can be all you know, best

617
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: foot former that and you could get that little you

618
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: know invite and get on that zoone. And it has

619
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: happened to a lot of people. They're like, oh my god,

620
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 2: I didn't know, girl, How could you not have known?

621
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Speaker 2: I mean, you didn't know when the day was gonna come.

622
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: But there is always a chance. So people waiting for

623
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: the right time, there is no right time, So you

624
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: gotta stay ready so you don't have to get ready.

625
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: And it alleviates all this pressure that we put on

626
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: ourselves with Corporate America. If you have the PMP certification,

627
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: when recruiters and hr are looking, they're doing the search

628
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: and you're gonna come up. But if you don't have it,

629
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Speaker 2: then you calling me rushing me crying, and I'm on

630
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: the beach in the Malady's or to buy somewhere. Don't

631
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 2: rush me when you could have got it last year.

632
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Speaker 2: Uh uh, ain't gonna happen.

633
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Speaker 1: We want to go.

634
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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to be on the beach. We can

635
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: get these lessons while we while we sipping on my

636
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: tie or something. And so so I love that you

637
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: you mentioned that what we say on the podcast often

638
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: about companies aren't loyal and staying ready, so you ain't

639
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 3: gotta get ready. What does truly staying ready look like? Right?

640
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Speaker 3: So let's say that someone has that project management certification.

641
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Speaker 3: What comes next?

642
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you asked, So you gotta have your

643
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: bank account together. I'll call it the FU money. So

644
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: I had every boot camp, I have people that are

645
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: so discrunted, and two people, one in the December boot

646
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Speaker 2: can't want to quit their job. So I just stopped

647
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Speaker 2: the whole boot camp. I told everybody, pull out your phones,

648
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Speaker 2: go to your bank accoun and they were looking at

649
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Speaker 2: me like what I'm like, do you have six months

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Speaker 2: of living expenses and everybody crick is quiet. So I'm like,

651
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you to sim her down, get this

652
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Speaker 2: P and P stack your money six months and then

653
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Speaker 2: you can move different. You're not pressed. You won't accept

654
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Speaker 2: a job you hate. So that's what I mean by

655
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: stay ready so you don't have to get ready. So

656
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Speaker 2: in an event they trip or you don't like them,

657
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: they don't like you, or layoffs your calm, and then

658
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Speaker 2: guess what you can decide when you go back to work.

659
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Speaker 2: Because let me tell you during COVID, well before COVID,

660
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: I was in between contracts and my contractor, my investor,

661
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: I called them. They wanted to bring me on full time,

662
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: but I was like, no, I love contracting, and so

663
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Speaker 2: I was interviewing. To make a long story, sure, I

664
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Speaker 2: was in between negotiations and everything paused, but guess what,

665
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Speaker 2: I wasn't pressed. Five months in the possible, I ain't

666
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Speaker 2: quite have six, but I have five months in impossible,

667
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Speaker 2: and so I was impressed. And that's what I mean.

668
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Speaker 2: Stay ready so you don't have to get ready, because

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Speaker 2: you make way more money when you have your P

670
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Speaker 2: and P. And if i'm your coach, I'm coming. I'm

671
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: helping you negotiate the substantial raises because you ladies do

672
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Speaker 2: know that this comes with a twenty thirty percent increase.

673
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Speaker 2: Now not automatically. You have to ask for it. I

674
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Speaker 2: coached my Oh oh, you didn't know that. Yes, and

675
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: I have the receipts all day long. Well, my clients

676
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Speaker 2: are getting forty fifty sixty three thousand dollars increases.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm on, somebody, Come on, somebody, That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. Oh my goodness, Tima, this is amazing, so awesome. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you work with so many ambitious professionals, right when

680
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Speaker 1: you think to the cohorts, the people who are in

681
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Speaker 1: the cohorts, and all the clients you've worked with, what

682
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Speaker 1: are some of the common traits among these people that

683
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Speaker 1: the ones that really succeed, like the ones that are

684
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Speaker 1: really crushing it and the U see results. What are

685
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Speaker 1: some of those common traits to the folks that are

686
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Speaker 1: listening can kind of tap into that and build those muscles.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

688
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Speaker 2: I've been trying to answer this question for a long time,

689
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 2: and I thought I had it, and it keeps changing.

690
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: But I recently identify what it is and I had

691
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: to get help with this. They know their why. I'm

692
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: gonna say that again. They know and understand their why.

693
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: And when your why is significant, then all the excuses

694
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: are out the window. And I will every time I

695
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: get on the console. That's the first question I asked.

696
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: And people are like, well, dag, I thought she was

697
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Speaker 2: gonna talk about the application and this, I'm like, no,

698
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: what is your why? Why are you here? And if

699
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: they give me some lame ass excuse, I'm like, this

700
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Speaker 2: is not for you, because when it gets a little rough,

701
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: this is not gonna be This is not gonna be

702
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Speaker 2: a pretty situation. Okay, because I do I do virtual

703
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: dry byes, I do ask my client, and so it's

704
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: just not going to be a good working relationship. But

705
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Speaker 2: when your why is significant, all them damn excuses go

706
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Speaker 2: out the window. And oh my god, I get the

707
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Speaker 2: worst excuses. And I always say, I got women with kids,

708
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Speaker 2: with multiple kids that can't even microwave, and you're talking

709
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Speaker 2: about you got to go to this event, girl by

710
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: people's parents are sick and life is life, and like,

711
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: people got real stuff going on, and you talk about

712
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Speaker 2: you got a Super Bowl D party. So I don't

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Speaker 2: deal with the excuses so when your why is significant,

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Speaker 2: you will do well in this boot camp. That is

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Speaker 2: the common denominator man or woman. I love that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: What I something that I picked up on that you

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Speaker 3: said when you were starting to answer this question was

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Speaker 3: that you had to think about it and you had

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Speaker 3: to get help. Yes. And what I like about that

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Speaker 3: is that what that tells me is that even with

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Speaker 3: all your years of experience, with the number of clients

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Speaker 3: that you have helped, with all the success that you

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Speaker 3: have had, you are still teachable.

725
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Speaker 2: Oh the minute you think you know everything, you're done,

726
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: You're done.

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Speaker 1: Okay that part?

728
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Speaker 2: So, yes, I am teachable. That's my number one strength

729
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: is a learner. If I stop learning, I pretty much

730
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Speaker 2: have checked out. So I have a coach. I've had

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Speaker 2: several coaches, and my coach right now, she don't play.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I got several clients this last boot

733
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Speaker 2: camp booked up because they heard me on her podcast,

734
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Speaker 2: that heard her chew me out about my time and

735
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Speaker 2: how exhausted I was. And she's ask me all the

736
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Speaker 2: way up. Of course, a little bit on camera, a

737
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Speaker 2: little bit off camera. But Rogers is my coach and

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Speaker 2: she does not play. And so you do have to

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Speaker 2: be coachable. And she is not my only coach, but

740
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Speaker 2: she's my you know, my content coach right now. But yes,

741
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: you gotta be coached if your coach is not getting coached,

742
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Speaker 2: if your therapist is not getting getting therapy. Houston, we

743
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Speaker 2: got a problem.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm. As a fact, I was gonna say, I

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Speaker 1: always love to hear well my therapist. I was my

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Speaker 1: therapist to mention her therapist and then my coach and coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, guess that's what I love it, right. So, Tama,

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Speaker 1: we covered so much today. Is there anything that we

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Speaker 1: did not cover that? She's like, oh, I really got

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Speaker 1: to tell the audience this before we close out.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I do so So many people feel like they

752
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 2: don't qualify for the P and P think you asked

753
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Speaker 2: that question. But my thing is everybody's a project manager.

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Speaker 2: You do not need the title, you don't need to

755
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: work for a fancy organization. Everybody's a project manager. I

756
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: firmly be lead that and I have coached thousands. I

757
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: have only had one person that I was like, oh,

758
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: maybe you need to wait, but only a year. Only

759
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: a year. But everybody's a project manager. I have an example.

760
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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, she just referred to somebody. She had

761
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: only been out of college for two years. You need

762
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Speaker 2: three years worth the work experience. And she came to

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Speaker 2: me at the very beginning of my career. I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even have a way for her to pay

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Speaker 2: me to do the application. That's how from the beginning,

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Speaker 2: and her application had got denied, and I was like, ooh, denied.

767
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 2: I can do an audit. But denied, Well, guess what

768
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: read this fundamental she sent me the letter. Nowhere did

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Speaker 2: it say you had to have been paid for a project.

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Speaker 2: You see how mine is a terrible thing to waste.

771
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: That application did not say you needed to be paid.

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Speaker 2: So me and her start talking. I said, what did

773
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Speaker 2: you do in undergrad? Were you Greek? She was like, yeah,

774
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Speaker 2: I'm aka, I'm probam Aka. You did a project. We

775
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: used two years of work experience, one year she revitalized

776
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Speaker 2: the park home depot, donated the equipment, got published in

777
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Speaker 2: her local paper. At school, we use that nonprofit and

778
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Speaker 2: two years of work experience.

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Speaker 3: She is a thriving program manager at Target. Yes, oh

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00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 3: love that example. Love that Okay, I know our listeners

781
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: are like, well, I'm managing my household I managed this

782
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: organization over here. I manage these people at my job,

783
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Speaker 3: even though my title doesn't say I need to sign up.

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Speaker 3: So Tamra, tell us, how can our listeners find you?

785
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Speaker 3: Repeat that website that you mentioned earlier, and what are

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Speaker 3: other ways that they can stay in touch?

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Speaker 2: So they can find me on LinkedIn? That's where I

788
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: hang out on LinkedIn. I love to share my myths,

789
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: story my clients, my referrals. So my clients will tell you, Tamra,

790
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: don't play. They're gonna give you the real deal. They

791
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: go in my client's DMS. I love it, and they

792
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: can find my website at I want MYPMP dot Com.

793
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Speaker 2: Like I said before, what other instructor do you know

794
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Speaker 2: that has free consoles? Everybody's charging now and people tell

795
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Speaker 2: me I need to charge, but I don't want that

796
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: to be a barrier. I don't. And people are surprised

797
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: when I show up. They're like ooh, like this is

798
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: her for real, Like yeah, we're gonna be working together

799
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Speaker 2: and the coaching starts as soon as you get on

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Speaker 2: that zone with me and get those questions answered. So

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Speaker 2: that's how they can find me at I want MYPMP.

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Speaker 1: Dot Com here. But This was so awesome. Thank you

803
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 1: so much for your energy, your insight, and just everything

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Speaker 1: that you're doing in the world. Yeah, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Ladies, this was amazing, amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited to share the gyms with your audience.

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