1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace the Kansas City Chiefs Homicide Bombshell. 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: being with us. In the last hours of Bombshell. Two arrested. 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Two arrested over the deaths of three Kansas City Chiefs 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: fans who apparently froze to death and their scientist's friend 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: backyard and on his porch, and he didn't notice a 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: thing for two days. A guy is dead, your friend 8 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: is dead in a lounge chair on your porch, and 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: you go two days ignoring repeated calls, text messages, social 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: media requests from family and friends. You don't see any 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: of that. You show up at the front door and 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: you're underwear with the glass of water and go hah. 13 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Two people arrested listen. 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson have been charged with distribution 15 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: of a controlled substance and three counts of involuntary manslaughter. 16 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: That from our friends at k NBC nine News joining 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: me in All Star panel. But first I want to 18 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: go to a very special guest joining us. It's Jonathan Price, 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: the brother of one of those three victims, Ricky Johnson. Jonathan, 20 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Thank you for having 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: me as Jonathan, I wonder sometimes if this day would 22 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: ever come. You said, from the get go, something is wrong, 23 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: something is horribly wrong. It didn't happen this way, and 24 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: you were right. 25 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just said from the very beginning, it didn't 26 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: make sense, and it still doesn't make sense that they 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: were able to rule out foul play from day one, 28 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: and then you know, with these charges. I mean, I 29 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: don't know the legal definition of foul play, but it 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: definitely seems like they now believe that there was foul play. 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 3: So just keeping keeping us in the dark for this long, 32 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: it is very troubling, but there is still a sense 33 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: of relief among all of us that this is hopefully 34 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: coming to a conclusion. 35 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: You guys have been dragged through hell and back. And 36 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl when the Chiefs were playing, I 37 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: thought about you and your family and I wondered what's 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: going through their minds tonight as everybody's celebrating and partying, 39 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: and you still did not have answers in your brother's death. 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think about Rickey daily, 41 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: and you know, even more so when the Chiefs are 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: playing or KU's playing, you know, there's you know, he 43 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: cared much about his family and about his sports, and 44 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: we we shared that our entire lives and uh, you know, 45 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: those those memories will always live on. And uh, you know, 46 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: like I said before, it's there. There is a sense 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: of relief that, you know, something that's coming from all 48 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: of this. 49 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, I was wondering, Jonathan, when everybody was celebrating and 50 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: there was the big lead up to the Chiefs playing 51 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and everybody's what's Taylor Swift gonna wear? 52 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: And are they going to get engaged? Is she pregnant? 53 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. Were you thinking what about 54 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: my brother? What about my brother? Because I was thinking 55 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: that the whole way through the Super Bowl. 56 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, every every day we've been saying this, 57 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: and uh, you know it kind of went a radio 58 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: asilent for a very long time. And then you know, 59 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: we were still hearing that there was no foul play. 60 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's just too much still out there 61 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: and it's all about what's going to come out of trial. 62 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: But you know there's still lots of questions. 63 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Jonathan, there is absolutely going to be 64 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: a trial. You guys kept in the dark for so long, 65 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: which must have been agonizing, agonizing as you wanted so 66 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: badly for your brother to get justice, and to think 67 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: that for all that time, he sat in his house, 68 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: throwing back the booze, hanging around in his underwear. And 69 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: this guy is no idiot. He's a scientist, for Pete's sake. 70 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: Ignoring the dead body in anounced heir on the porch, 71 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: ignoring his friend's cars parked directly in front of his house. 72 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: How can you ignore that? How can you not hear 73 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the phone for two days, not notice that you were 74 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: being barraged in social media and texts and emails, acting 75 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: like nothing happened, and then to pack up and leave town. 76 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: H Well, this is how the whole thing started. 77 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 4: January seventh is a football day for the Kansas City Chiefs, 78 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 4: as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers, So 79 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 4: thirty eight year old Jordan Willis invites a couple of 80 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: buddies to come to his house and watch the game. 81 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcghiney arrive at Willis's 82 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: house just in time for the three twenty five kickoff. 83 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: They enjoy the game as the Chiefs beat the Chargers 84 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 4: thirteen to twelve, and Willis makes plans for them to 85 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: get tickets to the next home game. 86 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: So everything's fine. They're all there watching the game together. 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: Then what happens after the game? Jordan Willis waves the 88 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: guys off and crashes on the couch. 89 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did not 90 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: leave his home at all. He would normally have to 91 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 4: take his dogs Sadie and Daisy outside to do their business, 92 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: but they're all staying at his dad's place. 93 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. He had described his dogs as 94 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: the quote loves of his life. How did they end 95 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: up somewhere else? Okay, that's just a tangential question. But 96 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: right there, something is way wrong. Joining me. Crime Stories 97 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: investigative reporter Dave Matt Right there, Dave, Jordan Willison. This 98 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: is on a Sunday, the scientist. He waves away the 99 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: friends and claims he crashes on the sofa for what 100 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: the next two or three days? I mean, if you 101 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: take it from Sunday until finally the police were at 102 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: the front door. After the girlfriend breaks in the window 103 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: to find the dead body and starts screaming, I mean, 104 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: that's his story, Dave, seriously. 105 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 5: And he's sticking to it. 106 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 6: Nancy. 107 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 5: He has always claimed that he crashed out, doesn't know 108 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 5: what the guys did. He was sound asleep for the 109 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 5: next seventy two hours, and he missed all the messages. 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 5: He didn't get any pet he didn't get any text messages, 111 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 5: phone calls because that phone was ringing off the hook. 112 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: All those guys, family and friends were reaching out to 113 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 5: him because they were always in contact. But Jordan Willis 114 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 5: claims he slept through the entire thing for three days 115 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,239 Speaker 5: and he only got up when they, you know, basically 116 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 5: broke into his house and John there were dead guys 117 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: in the backyard. 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky Johnson's brother 119 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: who passed away. You know, when I think about what 120 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: he went through, it was so cold out there. Do 121 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: you let yourself? I mean, I try not to think 122 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: about what my fiance went through when he was murdered. 123 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: He was shot five times in the face, the neck, 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: the head, and I try not to think about it 125 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: because it will mess me up so badly and I 126 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: have children to raise. Do you ever let yourself think 127 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: about what Ricky went through? While their friend was inside 128 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: in his underwear, passed out. 129 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: I think about that all the time, you know, especially 130 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: with these these three gentlemen, you know, being inseparable for 131 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: a very very long time, and for all three of 132 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: them to happen at the exact same time, and some 133 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: of them were going through in the final moments of 134 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: seeing maybe one of their friends go down first at all. 135 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: So many questions still on how that would have happened. 136 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: And I pray that all the facts, not just some 137 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: of the facts, but that all the facts will come 138 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: out and we will know is no idiot three days 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Sunday Monday Tuesy, and I never knew my friend. My 140 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: friend was dead on the front on the back porch, 141 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: and my other friends were dead lying in my yard. 142 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: How can he? How can he say that? Oh yeah, 143 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: And all the phone calls and all the texts and 144 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: all the emails and all the social media. He said 145 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: he was wearing noise canceling headphones for three days. 146 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 7: Really, he says he was wearing noise canceling earphones, and 147 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 7: he was in his house. He didn't notice the car 148 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 7: in front, and he didn't notice three of his friends. 149 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 7: He wasn't texting them the day after. Hey, guys, let's 150 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 7: go get tickets for the next game because the Chiefs 151 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 7: had won. Acted like he was completely shut off from 152 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 7: the whole world and noise canceling headphones. Sure maybe right, 153 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 7: You maybe can't hear a little thing in the next room, 154 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 7: but you're going to hear people beating on your door 155 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 7: and you're going to see your phone blowing up for 156 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 7: two days. 157 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: So let me understand something, Dave Mac. How many days 158 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: passed before the girlfriend the fiance has to come and 159 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: literally break in. When did that happen? Just give me 160 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: a number. 161 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 6: Two days? 162 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: All right? 163 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 5: Two days? 164 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 8: What day was on? 165 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 5: The game was on Tuesday, games on Saturday, on Sunday 166 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: the seventh, and Tuesday the ninth is the day police 167 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 5: are at the door. 168 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what. They didn't teach me math in 169 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: law school. But seven eight nine, that's three days. Seven 170 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: is Sunday, the day of the game, which is in 171 00:09:52,679 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: the early afternoon, all night, all day Monday until finally Tuesday, 172 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: when the fiance is beside herself, she can't find her 173 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: fiance and goes looking for him. Listen. 174 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 9: On January eighth, friends and family are concerned. They were 175 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 9: headed to Jordan Willis house to watch the game, but 176 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 9: now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying 177 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 9: to messages on social media or by phone. 178 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 10: On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton mckinee's 179 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 10: fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars 180 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 10: in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone 181 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 10: or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and 182 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 10: screams Willis's name. She walks through the house. Then she 183 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 10: looks on the back porch and sees a body. 184 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Oh my stars, okay, Jonathan Price is joining me. This 185 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: is Ricky's brother, beloved brother. I might ad they grew 186 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: up together and they would argue about who's going to 187 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: watch Power Rangers and who's gonna watch ESPN. Very very 188 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: loving relationship, their whole lives. In my mind, that's three days. 189 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: You got the Chiefs game early afternoon Sunday there together 190 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: in Sunday night, all day Monday, Monday night, and then 191 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Tuesday nine to fifty one, that's nearly ten o'clock at night, 192 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Clayton's fiance comes hysterical trying to find him, has to 193 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: break in and seize a dead body. Is my timing correct, Jonathan, 194 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean it appears to be correct. 195 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not very good at math either, but 196 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: you know, there's there's a question in my mind that 197 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: there's no possible way you can sleep that long and 198 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: just not know what's going on. 199 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: I agree, Jonathan, no way. What was he doing in 200 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: the joining me is a veteran defense attorney has handled 201 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: a number of high profile cases. Derek Smith is joining 202 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: me out of Ohio. He's at d W Smith Legal 203 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: dot com. Derek, really the defense I slept through the 204 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, for those of you who just 205 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: joining us, finally movement a bombshell arrest of two people 206 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: in connection with the deaths of three Kansas City chiefs, 207 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: fans who were frozen to death and their buddy the 208 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: scientist backyard Derek Smith. Can he really look at a 209 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: jury and say, I slept for three days with noise 210 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: canceling headsets on, I knew nothing. 211 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Yes and no, and this is a terrible situation. 212 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 11: Is best friend, some of his frenzies with his whole 213 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 11: entire life, like they said, they were very close utter 214 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 11: uttershock and disbelief and just manic depression. 215 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: Will put somebody. 216 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 11: Down looking out your window and seeing your friends in 217 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 11: the condition they were in. That's enough right there to 218 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 11: send a person into deep shock, disbelief and just pass 219 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 11: right back out. 220 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: Does not want to be. 221 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: That's a good one. So he saw the bodies and 222 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: then passed back out, you know. To doctor Hidie Green 223 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: joining me, clinical psychologist, trauma specialist, author of The Path 224 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: to Self Love and World Domination, Doctor Heidiegreen dot com. 225 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Doctor Heidie So, now we're getting a spin on that 226 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: and no telling what it's going to morph into by 227 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: the time this goes to trial. So Jonathan Price braced yourself. 228 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: So Derek Smith is spinning it out, you know, like 229 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Rumpel Stileskin would take that nasty hay out of the 230 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: barn and spin it into gold. He is now hypothesizing 231 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: that the defendant, one of the two arrested in the 232 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: desks of three people that were left to freeze out 233 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: in the yard one on his porch, is that he 234 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: came to from his deep sleep. You know, I'll throw 235 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: in sleeping beauty there. He came to, saw the dead 236 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: body of his friend and then passed out, Doctor Heidie Green. 237 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Psychologically speaking, that seems very unlikely to me. 238 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 8: So it is very unlikely that he fell unconscious for 239 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 8: seventy two hours as a result of a significant trauma. 240 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 8: And we can say if your friends died accidentally, if 241 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 8: that's what we're going with, and you saw them in 242 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 8: your home, it's obviously possible that you would have a 243 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 8: significant trauma response, and that trauma response could include a 244 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 8: freeze response. I could see somebody maybe being in their 245 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 8: house terrified to answer the throne, terrified to go and 246 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 8: look at the bodies, wanting to essentially just pretend like 247 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 8: nothing's going on. But to actually be unconscious for seventy 248 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 8: two hours, that seems far less likely as a trauma. 249 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:59,119 Speaker 1: Resport crime stores with Nancy Grace. 250 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 9: Screaming, Clayton mcguinea's fiance calls police. Officers arrived to find 251 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 9: Willis in his underwear with an empty glass of wine 252 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 9: in hand. According to the victims' families, the other two 253 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 9: bodies were then found in the backyard. Jordan Willis tells 254 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 9: police he has no idea what happened. John Piserno, an 255 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 9: attorney representing Willis, said his client had no idea his 256 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 9: friends were dead until police knocked on his door. Hayley 257 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 9: Lettier wrote, My husband banged on his door for twenty minutes. 258 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 9: My friend banged on his door and then busted a 259 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 9: window and yelled and announced her presence while she's inside 260 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 9: and steal nothing from him. Then the cops come ten 261 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 9: minutes later, and he comes out nonchalant in his boxers 262 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 9: with an empty wine glass in hand. Nothing is adding up. 263 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 9: Dave Clay and Ricky need and deserve justice. 264 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,359 Speaker 1: Yes they do. And in the last hours a bombshell, 265 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: two people arrested in the deaths of three Kansas City 266 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs fans found apparently frozen on his porch and backyard. 267 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Price is with me. This is Ricky's brother, Jonathan. 268 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Your brother is always described as a Kansas City Chief fan. 269 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: That's really not doing him justice. He was so much more. 270 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: Tell me well, Ricky was very humble. He loved everybody 271 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: he ever interacted with. He always saw the good and people. 272 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: He helped out anybody in need anytime, no matter if 273 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: at one time they were seen as enemies or you know, 274 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: just not friends in general. But he was just such 275 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: a kind person, loving father, brother, son, cousin. You know, 276 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: he was truly cherished by our entire family. 277 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: Tell me about your family. 278 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean we kind of we grew up, you know, 279 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: separated at some points, but we always came together for 280 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: family events. 281 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: You know. 282 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: We were always there at Christmas times, holding our own 283 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: different Christmases to make sure that all of our schedules 284 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: matched up to where we can all see each other. 285 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: And when I was in the military, anytime I came home, 286 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: Ricky and my other brother Rusty, they always made it 287 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: a point and my sister Lisa, they always all made 288 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: it a point to come home all to be together 289 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: every time. So we you know, we cherished each other. 290 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: And there's very fond memories of of Ricky growing up 291 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: and everything he was to all of us. 292 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: When you say the memories you had growing up memories. 293 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: Well, my love for football, I love for all sports 294 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: came from Ricky. 295 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: You know. 296 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: Seeing my my two oldest brothers, you know, throwing the 297 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 3: football farther that I could have made when I was 298 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: a small child, I just I looked up to them. 299 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: That's a picture of us right there with the X 300 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: factor at the Kansas City game. You know, we went 301 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 3: to the very first game that Pastion Mahomes was playing 302 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: in the preseason, and uh, we you know, you met 303 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: my entire family, and you know, even though we were 304 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 3: states away, you know, we always we always talked about 305 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: the sports of Kansas City and you know, everything that 306 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: we were accomplishing. Finally, after so many years of being 307 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 3: you know, an up and down team. You know, we 308 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: we shared a lot of memories together and uh, you know, 309 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: I I just I love them. 310 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: We are learning more about the death of the so 311 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: called Three Chiefs fans. 312 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 12: As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing 313 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 12: to death in the backyard while their friend is asleep inside, 314 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 12: the families of the victims begin to speak out and 315 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 12: ask questions. The biggest question for Jordan Willis is what 316 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 12: happened next? Was why didn't you answer calls, text messages 317 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 12: and social media messages from family and friends of the 318 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 12: three men. 319 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: The Daily Mail reports. Willis insists he spent the next 320 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: two days in his home, not thinking anything of the 321 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: fact that his friend's cars were still outside, and only 322 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: learned they died when the fiance of one of the 323 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 4: men broke into the house on January ninth in the 324 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: hopes of finding him. 325 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan Price. Where were the victims cars parked in relation 326 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: to the friends home. 327 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: Well, I guess if you're based on what I've heard, 328 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: if you look out the front door, they were just 329 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 3: off to the right, and I guess there was potentially 330 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: two out of the three cars, because I think someone 331 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: might have car pooled. But either way, my brother drove 332 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: an F one fifty, so it was you know, se 333 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: my large truck right there in the front. There's no 334 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: way to miss it. 335 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: So Mary Hudgson joining me, former la now chief investigator 336 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: for Barry and Associates, Investigative Services in Kansas and Missouri. Barry, 337 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: let me understand. So this guy, the so called friend, 338 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: could find a wine glass and fill it up with wine, 339 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: and find his noise canceling headphones. He could find those, 340 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: he could see those, but he couldn't see his dead 341 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: friend on the porch and in the yard, or their 342 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: vehicles part in front of his house. Man see this. 343 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 13: Story, you know, his his excuses for how everything happened. 344 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 13: It just makes no sense at all. You know, I've 345 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 13: been thinking about this and one of the things that 346 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 13: I thought about. You know, the guy came to the 347 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 13: door in his underwear, and he said that he had 348 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 13: been asleep for seventy two hours. 349 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: We knew that he'd been. 350 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 13: Drinking a lot apparently, so if he slept for solid 351 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 13: three hours, don't you think his body would have evacuated 352 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 13: while he was asleep for three solid days. If he 353 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 13: never got up, he would have wet his south. Did 354 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 13: he come to the door with soiled underwear or did 355 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 13: he look like he urinated on his stuff? You know 356 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 13: when you arrested drunk on the street most of the 357 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 13: time and they're awake, theyp all over theirself. This guy 358 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 13: did look a year and nat dona set because if 359 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 13: he didn't, that kind of shoots that story right in 360 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 13: behind the end. 361 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: He asked me, Yeah, I mean he had to get 362 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: up and go to the bathroom. Doctor Kendall Crown's joining me, 363 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: and he's here for other reasons, But since we're on 364 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: this topic, Doctor Kendall Crown's with me. Chief Medical Examiner 365 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Terrant County. That's fort Worth never a lack of business, 366 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: esteemed lecturer at Burnett's School of Medicine TCU, and launching 367 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: a new podcast, doa Dead on Arrival March seven. Doctor 368 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: Crown's is that true what Barry just told us? I mean, 369 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: how could he go seventy two hours drinking. Let me 370 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: add that in and not getting up and finding his 371 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: way to the bathroom. 372 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 14: Oh, I agree with that. There's no way you could 373 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 14: sleep for three days after consuming that much alcohol and 374 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 14: also eating that Your body wouldn't urinate on itself for defecates. 375 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 14: So it's impossible to believe that he spent that entire 376 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 14: time asleep and not getting up and go at least 377 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 14: going to the bathroom. 378 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 10: Jordan Willis's attorney, John Pacerno, refuses to answer questions about 379 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 10: whether the men were using drugs. Paserno says there was 380 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 10: a fifth man in the home on the night of 381 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 10: January seventh. Willis says the man is a buddy who 382 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 10: left earlier than the. 383 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: Other three men. 384 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: As the investigation heated up, Jordan Willis moved out of 385 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: the home and checked into rehab. A forensic data extraction 386 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: found text messages on Harrington's phone between Willis, Mcgheini, Johnson, 387 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: and others that proved Carson was the person who supplied 388 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 4: the group with cocaine, DNA evidence matsh Willis identifying him 389 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 4: as a major contributor, and DNA evidence from the second 390 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: bag match, Carson confirming his role as the drugs of. 391 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: Liar, packs up and goes to rehab. So to Jonathan Price, 392 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: when did you learn that the so called best friend 393 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: of your brother packs up, clears out the house, takes 394 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: his dog, goes to rehab. 395 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: I mean, the only time that we found out was 396 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: whenever it was reported in the news, which is kind 397 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: of the unfortunate part of all this. But if you 398 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: have the mental capacity to know you have a problem 399 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: after the fact and check yourself into rehab, then you know, 400 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: you know more about what happened that night. And I 401 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: don't know if you shared that or not with the authorities, 402 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: but the fact that he was not detained you after 403 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: that night or the past fourteen months doesn't really make 404 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: any sense to me. 405 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. To Derek Smith, why is that the 406 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: go to with your clients and all the stars, it's 407 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: only after they're busted for something that they suddenly realize 408 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: they have a problem and they hide out in rehab. 409 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 11: Well, unfortunately, it takes an event like that to really 410 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 11: change a lifestyle or change a mindset or even in 411 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 11: these cases, a serious addiction. 412 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's akin to. 413 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 11: Being in a certain way of life, certain way of 414 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 11: doing things, everything's fine as long as everything's fine, and 415 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 11: then something tragic or something terrible, or the law gets involved, 416 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 11: and you have to make a drastic change, And that's, 417 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 11: unfortunately just how it is. 418 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes. 419 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: Joining me right now is a special guest just joining us, 420 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: Eric Zand is with us. It is the Platte County 421 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: prosecutor who was working on the case. And I know, 422 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: Eric number one, thank you for being with us, But 423 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: I know what you can say is limited, having been 424 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: a prosecutor for many years myself, but I want to 425 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. The family questioned this 426 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: from the get go, and I know the prosecutors get 427 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: the case once LA law enforcement finishes their investigation. But 428 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, having dealt with so many crime victims, 429 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: how agonizing this has been for the family to be 430 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: waiving the banner. This isn't right, this isn't normal. This 431 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: guy's not innocent. He won't say a word to us 432 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: about what happened. And this is the alleged best friend 433 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: they've been waiting all this time. Now, Eric, don't get 434 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: me wrong, I'm glad we finally have bombshell arrests in 435 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: the desks of the three Kansas City Chase fans. But 436 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: what took so long? Please explain it. 437 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, You're absolutely right, Nancy, this was a long time coming. 438 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: And our hearts absolutely go out to these family members. 439 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 6: I met with them shortly after these deaths, and it's 440 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 6: just really tragic. It's honestly, it's another reminder of the 441 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 6: dangers of street drugs, and these cases are tough to 442 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 6: put together. Cracking down who's responsible for providing these drugs 443 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 6: is no easy task. But I can't tell you how 444 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: proud I am Nancy of the Kansas City Police Department 445 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 6: and prosecutors in my office, who from day one said 446 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 6: that they weren't going to rest until we exhausted every 447 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 6: possible resource to bring the people we believe responsible for 448 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 6: these crimes to justice, and yesterday was the first step 449 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 6: in that. As you know, these men are presumed innocent 450 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 6: and lesson until proven guilty, but we've charged them what 451 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: we think happened, which was providing cocaine and fentanyl and 452 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: causing the deaths of these three men. 453 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, this is what Platte County 454 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: Prosecutor Eric Xand had to say. 455 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: A doctor with Forensic Medical of Kansas found that mister mcghini, 456 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: mister Harrington, and mister Johnson all died of fentanyl and 457 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: cocaine combined toxicity. 458 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: Now from our forensic KMBC nine News. So, Eric, your assertion, 459 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: what you're going to prove, I think in trial is 460 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: that the casual use of a little cocaine, although family 461 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: says that at least one of the victims had never 462 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: used cocaine before, but the casual use of cocaine turned 463 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: deadly because it was cut with Yeah. 464 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 6: In this case, what we alleged is that there were 465 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 6: two baggies found at the scene. One of those baggies 466 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 6: contained cocaine, the other baggie we alleged contained sentinel. Them 467 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 6: found that it was a combination of those two drugs 468 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 6: that caused these men's deaths. And so we've charged both 469 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 6: of the men, one of them who we believe provided 470 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 6: the cocaine, the other who we alleged sold the fentanyl 471 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 6: that caused these deaths, And we allege, because we charged 472 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 6: them with manslaughter, that they recklessly caused the deaths of 473 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: these three men. 474 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, listen to what Jonathan Price 475 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: had to say from. 476 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: The very beginning. 477 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 15: He said that before the fifth person came out. He 478 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 15: said that Jordan was there sporadically throughout the day and 479 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 15: then whenever, and then he also did not mention a 480 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 15: fifth person. But once the fifth person came out, then 481 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 15: he changed it to you, saying that there was a 482 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 15: fifth person and that he was asleep the entire time. 483 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 15: So those were two very specific details that were specific 484 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 15: in the opening statement but then changed over time. 485 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: So Alexis Tereschuk joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter, the 486 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: best friend now charged in a homicide case, changed his story. 487 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: He never mentioned anybody else was there beside him and 488 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: his three buddies all dead, frozen dead in the backyard, 489 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: and he goes three days and doesn't notice they're on 490 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: his back porch. There's a mystery guy, a fifth person. 491 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Elect says he changed his story. 492 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 7: Why because the fifth person was a person that provided 493 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 7: the drugs. According to police, this is somebody who they 494 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 7: have all known for quite a while that Jordan has known, 495 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 7: and he was contacted and this man brought the drugs. 496 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 7: This so there's cocaine. Jordan Willis's DNA is on the cocaine. 497 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 7: Irey Carson's DNA is on the bag of fentanyl and 498 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 7: that is the toxic combination that killed these men. So 499 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 7: he was he had come over and brought them the cocaine. 500 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 7: And the way that the police found this out wasn't 501 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 7: through Jordan Willis. He never mentioned any of these details. 502 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 7: But David Harrington's phone is the one phone that they 503 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 7: were able to extract evidence from, and they saw on 504 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 7: there there were group chats about buying the cocaine. Willis 505 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 7: was the one that would always provide it for them. 506 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 7: These other guys didn't have enough. Cocain's expensive, it's not 507 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 7: a cheap drug. And then you topped that off of 508 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 7: the feninyl and he was the one that did it. 509 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 7: So there were group chat text messages that showed that 510 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 7: these were how they got the drugs. 511 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: To Eric Xann joining me right now. Platt's county prosecutor, 512 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: who is charged with last sewing all this evidence and 513 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: presenting it to a jury. Did he really think we 514 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't find out about the fifth guy, the mystery man, 515 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: and all of his statements at the get go that 516 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: was never mentioned. Now we know why he was the 517 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: dope dealer. 518 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 6: Well, and Nancy, I can't I can't comment on exactly 519 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 6: what either of these defendants thought or said. But what 520 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 6: I can tell you is that we allege that mister 521 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 6: Willis provided cocaine and mister Carson sold Sentinel to these men, 522 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 6: and we alleged that resulted in the deaths of these 523 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 6: three great people who were boyfriends, husbands, fathers, sons of 524 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 6: people in Kansas City. It's truly tragic. And here's what 525 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 6: folks have to understand. If you deal drugs and somebody 526 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 6: dies as a result, we will do everything we can 527 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 6: to make sure that you're held accountable for the deaths 528 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 6: of those people. That's exactly what we're trying to do. 529 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 8: In this case. 530 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: Crime with Nancy Grace. 531 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: These three men were inseparable. 532 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 15: You look at any of their facebooks, any picture that's 533 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 15: posted that it's not of. 534 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: Their family, it's of these men. 535 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 15: And if just one of them, even two of them 536 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 15: passed out at the same time, which is already impossible, 537 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 15: you know, the other man would have absolutely brought them 538 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 15: inside and called for help something. 539 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: So that's just insane. 540 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: This is what Platte County Prosecutor Eric Xander tells us. 541 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: He saw a large plate of cocaine allegedly supplied by 542 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: mister Willis that everyone was using. 543 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, the defendant provided it, the friend, the friend, 544 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: the scientist, the HIV researcher, Jordan Willis, H thirty nine. 545 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: The best friend supplied a plate of coke, possibly laced 546 00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: with Sentinel, to his friends. You were just hearing from 547 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: our friends at KMBC nine US to doctor Kendall Crown's 548 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: joining us, Doctor Kendle Crowns, I want to understand how 549 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: the use of these drugs, potentially cocaine cut with fentanyl. 550 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: Don't know if they knew it was cut with fentanyl, 551 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: what that would look like. I mean, it's hard for 552 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: me to understand, although I've heard about it, I've prosecuted, 553 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: I've seen it at crime scenes where you have a 554 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: party and there's a plate of cocaine out. I mean, 555 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: I would think there'd be sandwiches and chicken wings, right, celery, carrots, 556 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: ranch dip. There's a plate of cocaine and everybody's doing it. 557 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: You know how many times have you heard that, mom, 558 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: everybody's doing it. How are people supposed to know that 559 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: cocaine could be laced with fentanyl and what fentanyl can 560 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: do with you? Even a touch of fentanyl can kill you. 561 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: So what would fentanyl look like. Can it be in 562 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: a powder form? 563 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 14: Yes, it can. Actually it'll be kind of in a wipe. 564 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 14: It can be in a white pottery form. It can 565 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 14: be in the form of a fake percocet, which is 566 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 14: a blue pill that has an M thirty label on it. 567 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 14: It can be a patch. It can even be on 568 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 14: a lozenge type suckers, one of the ways it is distributed. 569 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 14: But anyway, cocaine, if it's cut with something fentanyl, can 570 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 14: be very deadly, and you don't know how much fentanyl 571 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 14: has been put in there, how much fentanyl you're actually 572 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 14: getting with the amount of cocaine that's been cut with it. 573 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 14: So that's why you could have a group of people 574 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 14: sitting together and three of them die and two of 575 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 14: them live because one got more fentanyl than the other. 576 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 14: Because it's it's really not regulated like a drug through 577 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 14: the FDA, it's just widely all over the place. So 578 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 14: that's why the street drugs are very dangerous is you 579 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 14: never know what you're getting. And one thing, we've had 580 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 14: cocaine cut with a dog de wormer as well, so 581 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 14: it's incredibly dangerous. 582 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Ad Chinel Crown I have investigated cases. For instance, an 583 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: infant at daycare. Little did the family know that the 584 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: daycare provider was storing fentanyl there also dealing like I 585 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: think the husband or the boyfriend was dealing, and they 586 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: moved the fentanyl from one place to the next inside 587 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: the daycare, and that movement released particles of fentanyl and 588 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: the infant inhaled it or touched it. It killed the baby. 589 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: So if you've got a plate of cocaine at last, 590 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: with any fentnel at all, there's your OD right there. 591 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: What started off as I guess a good time is 592 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: in death. I mean you can die from even inhaling 593 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: particles or touching particles of fentanyl. 594 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 14: Yes, fentanyl is incredibly dangerous and even its friend or 595 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 14: another derivative of a car fentanyl is even more dangerous 596 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 14: down to the fact that law enforcement and paramedics will 597 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 14: now carry in a lock zone, which is a way 598 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 14: to counteract the effects of the opioid in their rigs 599 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 14: or in their cars too. If they get exposed to 600 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 14: it and begin having symptoms, they can take it and 601 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 14: try and save themselves. So fentanel is incredibly dangerous. It's 602 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 14: not a drug you really should mess with. 603 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just thinking about these victims and how 604 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: they ended up frozen in plain view of their so 605 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: called friend Jordan Willis. You know, I'm trying to think 606 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: about their families. Dave mac tell me about the victims' families. 607 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: I know Jonathan is here speaking on behalf of his 608 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: brother Ricky, who died that day, whose body sat out 609 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: there freezing for so long? What about the other victims? 610 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 5: You know? Nancy? Mister Harrington's mom, Theresa, claimed she's been 611 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 5: kept out of the loop since the bodies worked, and 612 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 5: she said that they wouldn't tell me anything. Now she 613 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: is saying that the statements made it easy to think 614 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 5: that they had already made up their minds and there 615 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: wouldn't be any further investigation. And she's really pushing back 616 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 5: on this. She said the arrest didn't really clear up 617 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 5: any speculation about the dead, saying, quote, I still don't 618 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 5: know anything about how my son died or his last moments. 619 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 5: That's pretty upsetting when you look at this over a 620 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 5: year down the road, that she doesn't know any more 621 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 5: than you and I might know. 622 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: Well, Kendall Crown's what would someone go through if they 623 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: literally sat outside and an accidental fentyl stupor and froze dead. 624 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: That would be horrible, but they couldn't get up and move. 625 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 14: So basically fentnyl makes your respiratory drive decrease and makes 626 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 14: your brain not think it needs enough oxygen, and so 627 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 14: you slowly kind of drift off into a coma that 628 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 14: eventually fully your brain, not getting enough oxygen, begins to die, 629 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 14: which causes your lungs to fill with fluid, and then 630 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 14: you pass away. It wouldn't necessarily immobilize you to the 631 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 14: point that you couldn't get up and get yourself out 632 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 14: of an unsafe situation unless you've gone into a coma. 633 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 14: So those individuals, how would. 634 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: They sit there and on the porch and a lounge 635 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: chair and lay in the backyard if they could move? 636 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm certainly not a medical doctor, but certainly 637 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: they would get up off the porch or get off 638 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: the ground and come inside. According to the defendant, the 639 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: door was unlocked. I submit they couldn't. 640 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 14: Well, that's if they're so conscious, if they've gotten enough 641 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 14: fentyl in and it's caused them to go into basically 642 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 14: a coma, they can't move at that point, and then 643 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 14: they will either more likely than not die from the 644 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 14: fentanyl prior to dying from freezing to death, because there 645 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 14: are auto findings you'll find that'll show that they died 646 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 14: from hype both thermia or freezing to death, which I 647 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 14: haven't seen any reports of that being found. 648 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: Alexis Teresshut. We keep referring to them as the Kansas 649 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: City Chiefs fans, and they were so much more than that. 650 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: Tell me about their families. 651 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 7: Well, Clayton mcginney was engaged. He was engaged to a 652 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 7: woman named April Mahoney, and they were very happy together. 653 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: They were very young. 654 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 7: You know, he worked in construction, small business construction, and 655 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 7: he was going through a really rough time. There weren't 656 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 7: a lot of jobs. But they were still together at 657 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 7: the time, and she in fact started a GoFundMe to 658 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 7: sell everybody like he was so wonderful and he was 659 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 7: somebody that was her whole life, and the two of 660 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 7: them had all these future plans together and then it 661 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 7: was abruptly cut short. And in fact, she was the 662 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 7: one that found that April was trying trying trying to 663 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 7: reach him, Clayton, calling him over and over again. She's 664 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 7: the one that showed up at Jordan Willis's house. She 665 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 7: broke through the basement window, she got out, she found 666 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 7: and then the other two guys. 667 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: Did Overnight, we learned to arrested in the horrific deaths 668 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: of three Kansas City Chiefs fans watching a football game 669 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: with their so called best friend now behind bars. Arrested 670 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: the so called best friend, Jordan Willis, and a guy 671 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: named Ivory J. Carson a k A Blade. Okay, straight 672 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: back out to Jonathan Price, this is Ricky's brother. Tell 673 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: me your thoughts. 674 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, summing everything up, you know, I just 675 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, he was my brother. I cherish him a lot. 676 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: And his three daughters, you know, and you know, so 677 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: a couple of them are a little bit young to 678 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 3: fully understand. It's a it's very difficult to think about 679 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: what they are going through and the answers that they 680 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: have been neglected for all this time, and it's it's just, 681 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 3: you know, very makes us very distraught. 682 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: Jonathan Price, you want to set the record straight on 683 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: some certain issues. 684 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: What well, one of the things that we've been told 685 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: since the beginning which did not make sense is the 686 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 3: ruling out of foul play. And you know, the the 687 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 3: amount of information that we've gotten since then, you know, 688 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 3: since January ninth, it's it's been very disappointing. I'm glad. 689 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 3: I understand that it takes time, and you know, I'm 690 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: glad that we are finally getting some answers, but there's 691 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: there's still a lot out there that we don't fully understand. 692 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: And just three or four months ago, Jordan's lawyer was 693 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: saying that he thinks that charges will come, but not 694 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 3: to Jordan, and that's from talking to some pro secutor. 695 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 3: So that part doesn't make sense to me either. And 696 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 3: I'm just the more I give back into this, you know, 697 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 3: the more pain that's coming back, just like there was 698 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 3: back then, and the more questions that are arising from 699 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 3: all of this. 700 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: If you know or think you know any evidence as 701 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: it relates to this case, the case is ongoing and 702 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: headed for trial, please dial eight one six two three 703 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: four five one one one repeat eight one six two 704 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: three four five point one one one. We pray that 705 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: justice unfolds and the truth comes out in court. And 706 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: now we remember an American hero, Officer Britney Mew Lake 707 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: County Sheriffs, Indiana, a US Marine Corps veteran, survived by 708 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: daughter Savannah and partner Joseph American Hero Officer Brittany Mew. 709 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off good bye friend,