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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a missing pregnant girl believed

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Speaker 1: to be with a forty year old sex predator.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us.

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Speaker 3: A Wisconsin family desperately searching for answers as to the

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Speaker 3: whereabouts of their missing team. Where is Sophia Franklin.

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Speaker 1: Like so many parents, they think everything's fine, their daughter

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Speaker 1: making great grades in school, attending their little Baptist church

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Speaker 1: with them every Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Everything seems to be going.

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Speaker 1: Along normally in their minds, and then this listen tonight,

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Speaker 1: there's an active amber alert for sixteen year old Sophia

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Speaker 1: Martin Franklin in Arkansas, more than seven hundred.

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Speaker 4: Miles from her home in beaver Dam, Wisconsin. Sophia is

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Speaker 4: five foot nine, one hundred and eighty six pounds, with

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Speaker 4: brown hair and blue eyes. The teenager is believed to

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Speaker 4: be traveling in a black twenty fourteen Buick Lacrosse with

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Speaker 4: Pennsylvania plate number KGW five one A six. The driver,

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Speaker 4: forty year old abductor Gary Day, the father of Sophia's

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Speaker 1: A teen girl pregnant by a forty year old sex

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Speaker 2: A rap sheet. Right now, we don't know what state

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Speaker 2: they could be in, we don't know where they're headed.

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Speaker 1: And we know that he has a history of changing

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Speaker 2: And I like to point out that.

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Speaker 1: This big loser is driving his mother's car.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I did a search on this car and it is

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Speaker 1: actually registered to his mother. Joining me in an all

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Speaker 1: star panel to make sense of what we know right now,

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Speaker 1: but to explain.

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Speaker 2: How serious this is.

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Speaker 1: Joining me first is Shauna Burns out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: This is the mother of a little girl named Haley Burns.

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Speaker 1: Her daughter was also lured online by a much older

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Speaker 1: sex predator when her daughter, Haley, had just turned sixteen. Shauna,

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Speaker 1: what happened in Haley's case?

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Speaker 5: Haley did not recognize the danger in this situation that

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Speaker 5: she was getting herself into when she was going to

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Speaker 5: stay with a friend and ended up being held against

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Speaker 5: her wills for three hundred and ninety nine days.

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Speaker 6: And the person that took her was anything but a friend.

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Speaker 2: What exactly happened to Haley, SHAWNA.

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Speaker 6: He took her and put her in a room first,

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Speaker 6: starved her, did horrible things to her. Things I can't

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Speaker 6: go into because there are two graphics. But the worst

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Speaker 6: things that you could imagine, those are what he did

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Speaker 6: to my child.

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Speaker 1: With me is a broken hearted mother, Shawna Burns joining

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Speaker 1: us out of North Carolina. Her little girl, Haley, just sixteen,

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Speaker 1: was abducted by a man, a predator, a sex predator

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Speaker 1: that she met online. And to make matters worse, Shawna Burns,

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Speaker 1: isn't it true that Haley met her kidnapper and rapist

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Speaker 1: in a chat room where he was targeting young girls

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Speaker 1: with eating disorders.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, he prayed. He prayed on a lot of

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Speaker 2: How long did he have your daughter?

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Speaker 6: Three hundred and ninety nine days?

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Speaker 1: And during that time we did our best to help

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Speaker 2: And when she was found, how much weight had she lost? Shauna?

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Speaker 7: She weighed a bit about eighty six to eighty seven

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Speaker 7: pounds when she came back, and she was a I

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Speaker 6: So my kid was a healthy weight when she left,

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Speaker 6: the hardest things was having to reintroduce food to her

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Speaker 7: Anything like that on any regular basis, so she could

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Speaker 6: She had to very slowly. We had to do rice

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Speaker 6: she'd been starved for so long. When she came home,

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Speaker 1: Shawna, isn't it true that Haley's kidnap her who met

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Speaker 1: her online kept her locked up and would only give

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Speaker 1: her food in exchange for enforced sex.

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Speaker 6: And the more violent that the acts were, the more

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Speaker 1: Guys, you're hearing Shawna Burns describing what happened to her

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Speaker 2: Same thing here.

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Speaker 1: This girl, now pregnant by the predator, has been kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Alexis Tereschuk, joining US Crime online dot

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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, I want to go through what happened

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Speaker 1: when Sophia goes missing. Listen Sunday night.

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Speaker 9: Sofia says her usual good nights and turns in around

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Speaker 9: nine pm Monday morning. Around eight am, Sofia's sister spots

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Speaker 9: Gary Days black buick idling a block down the street.

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Speaker 9: A family member goes to check on Sophia and finds

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Speaker 9: her room empty. The family reviews surveillance footage and at

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Speaker 9: seven forty eight am, the camera catches Day walking up

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Speaker 9: immediately report Sophia missing. Me on the lookout for this

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Speaker 1: A forty year old male traveling in a twenty fourteen

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Speaker 1: Buick Lacrosse.

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Speaker 2: He has chained license plates.

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Speaker 1: He started off with an Arkansas plate B Brother B

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Speaker 1: he is now using a Pennsylvania plate k g W

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to that Sunday evening when Sophia said

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Speaker 2: What happened then.

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Speaker 10: A regular Sunday night, cold winter night. She goes to

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Speaker 10: sleep at nine o'clock. You know, nothing unusual, Her parents did.

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Speaker 10: Nothing was unusual that night. They wake up in the

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Speaker 10: next morning, they go into her room. She is not there.

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Speaker 10: Everybody panics. Her sister notices about a block away from

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Speaker 10: is very suspicious. So they go back. Sister's not in

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Speaker 10: the house, They search the house, They look around the house.

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Speaker 10: Her dad pulls up their security footage whether they have

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Speaker 10: cameras outside the house, and they see a man of

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Speaker 10: their security footage that morning. They instantly are terrified for

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Speaker 10: her and they call nine to one one and report

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Speaker 10: her missing. And she is only sixteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Brian just turned just turned sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons joining me Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security.

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Speaker 2: He leads a team of.

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Speaker 1: Investigators specializing and locating missing people. Brian, this guy had

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Speaker 1: the whole thing planted, by the way, he has a

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Speaker 1: rap sheet. He is a sex predator. This guy was

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Speaker 1: idling the sister. Sophia's sister noticed a black butte Lacrosse

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Speaker 1: they pull up that morning's video. As Alexis Terrestut was describing,

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Speaker 1: around seven ish that more, they see day the perp walking.

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Speaker 2: Up to the home.

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Speaker 1: As he nears the home, he starts running towards the

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Speaker 2: The fact that he was lying in wait is very disturbing.

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Speaker 8: Forsgibbons, Absolutely, Nancy, and that leads me to believe that

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Speaker 8: he was in communication.

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Speaker 2: With Sophia prior to this pickup.

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Speaker 8: We also know that he had an ankle monitoring bracelet

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Speaker 8: that he had removed or allowed to the battery to

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Speaker 8: die that day earlier that day, within twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Brian, when I hear ankle monitor, my blood boils. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why because people disable them and strict them.

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Speaker 2: All the time. All the time we.

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Speaker 1: Hear about it discarded or cut off or disabled ankle monitor,

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Speaker 1: Yet we still continue.

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Speaker 2: To do it.

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Speaker 1: And now Sophia is gone pregnant. Can I tell you, Brian,

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Speaker 1: how many cases just like this and a shootout and

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Speaker 1: badly when the sex predator realizes he's cornered, he's caught,

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Speaker 1: he takes himself.

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Speaker 2: And a little girl down with him.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, this is an extremely perilous time for Sophia, especially

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Speaker 8: with Day being desperate enough to remove his ankle monitor.

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Speaker 1: I'm very surprised, and I'm going to get off. Ankle

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Speaker 1: monitor has got bigger fish to fry. Brian, But I'm

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Speaker 1: very surprised when he removed his ankle monitor it did

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Speaker 1: not send some immediate alert to the monitor's supervisor.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't that have happened?

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Speaker 1: I mean, once you see the monitor doesn't move for

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Speaker 1: a period of time, and when it is taken off,

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Speaker 1: it should send a disabling frequency to the monitor.

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Speaker 8: In this case, I believe it did. Nancy within forty

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Speaker 8: eight hours. You can see in court documents that his

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Speaker 8: probation officer was already filing paperwork to that effect. So

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Speaker 8: forty's in Arkansas and you definitely.

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Speaker 2: Need it here in ZAP Forty eight hours. Forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Brian, You and I know the stats backwards and forwards.

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Speaker 1: The first three days, really, the first twenty four hours

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Speaker 2: Forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: You might as well say forty eight days as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Just think about it, Brian, sixty mph,

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Speaker 1: hour after hour after hour, they are on the run.

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Speaker 2: Forty eight hours. Seriously, that's what you've got for me.

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Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Can we talk about Brian

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Speaker 2: Fitzgibbons very quickly before.

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Speaker 1: I who this guy really is that has a sixteen

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Speaker 2: By him and they're on the run.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about in the vehicle because I believe

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Speaker 1: that's the best possibility, the best chance we've got of

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Speaker 1: finding Sophia alive. Okay, tell me what you know about

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Speaker 1: this black Buick Lacrosse and what's the possibility of a

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Speaker 1: navigation nav system in this So.

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Speaker 8: These twenty fourteen Buick Lacrosse are equipped with an Intelllink

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Speaker 8: navigation system. Now the important piece here is that the

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Speaker 8: Intello link, the brain behind it that communicates to both

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Speaker 8: cellular and satellite data, is driven by on Star.

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Speaker 2: That on Star module, whether or not Day has.

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Speaker 8: An active subscription, can be located with a cord order,

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Speaker 8: So on Star he's able to.

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Speaker 2: Pause, pause, pause.

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Speaker 1: See, not everybody knows what you're talking about. But when

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Speaker 1: you said court order, let me tell everybody, and I

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Speaker 1: have series XM, serious XM and others can't be forced

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Speaker 1: to hand over their tracking information, including nav systems. We

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Speaker 1: just saw this in the Alex Murlock double murder trial

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Speaker 1: where his nav system in his suburban told us everything

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Speaker 1: we needed to know about the time he gunned down

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Speaker 1: his wife Maggie and son Paul and then took off

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Speaker 1: to hide out at Mommy's house.

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Speaker 2: Really, you could even see.

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Speaker 1: When he opened the door to leave the crime scene,

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Speaker 1: when he turned the car on, put it in drive,

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Speaker 1: the window back up and took off. It's very advanced,

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Speaker 1: a twenty fourteen Buick Lacrosse. And you said, and tell

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Speaker 8: So intell Alink is effectively the interface that the driver

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Speaker 8: navigation systems. And just like you said, those maps would

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Speaker 8: need to be updated now driver behavior Nowadays, not many

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Speaker 8: That being said, the Intellolink system is driven by the

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Speaker 2: For lack of a better.

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Speaker 11: Term, it's not a good dude. He targets young females

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Speaker 4: Gary Day, forty, lives in Cabin, Arkansas and has been

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Speaker 2: Well he did.

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Speaker 1: That was from our friends at News three now and

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Speaker 1: we're learning more.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 4: Law enforcement discovers the black Buick Lacrosse is registered to

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Speaker 4: Day's mother and should have Arkansas plate number BBR two

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Speaker 4: Police advice that Day may continue to switch license plates

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Speaker 4: Drivers in Illinois and Missouri are asked to keep a

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Speaker 12: We do know that he's switching plates right now and

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Speaker 2: Our friends News three.

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Speaker 1: Now, guys, that is beaver Dan Police Chief John Cruisier. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me make sense of what I'm hearing straight out

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Speaker 1: to doctor Bethany Marshall. Renowned psycho Ana's joining us from

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Speaker 1: La author of deal Breaker, and you can see her

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Speaker 1: now on Peacock. Doctor Bethany, thank you for being with us,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Might as well get comfortable for you to tell me

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Speaker 2: But just jumping out at me.

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Speaker 1: He's forty he's almost forty one years old, and he's

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Speaker 1: driving his mommy's harm Let's just.

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Speaker 2: Start with that. I caught that too, Nancy.

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Speaker 13: I mean, this is a guy, you know, I think

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Speaker 13: he's probably so prolifically involved in his perversion and his

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Speaker 13: even I know he has a job, he's an insurance

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Speaker 2: Society, Nancy.

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Speaker 13: He probably lives off his mother, and the fact that

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Speaker 13: He's probably all syrupy and sweet when he meets these girls.

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Speaker 2: He probably tries to.

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Speaker 13: Alienate them from their parents. He probably tells them that

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Speaker 13: minute Sophia disagrees with him, I'm sure this is one

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Speaker 13: menacing individual. This is a guy who looks nice on

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Speaker 13: has time to do much else, because his whole perversion,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of joining me is veteran trial lawyer, former felony prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: now defense attorney Darryl Cohen, a partner with Cohen Cooper

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Speaker 1: A step and Allan. Darryl, thank you for being with us, Darryl.

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Speaker 1: How many times and a bond fourfeiture calendar when somebody

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Speaker 1: wouldn't show for court would say go to his mom's house.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's hiding under the bed or in the

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Speaker 1: driving his mother's car. Didn't his employer I believe that

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Speaker 1: he worked at insurance company? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Alexis and doctor Bethany, didn't they notice the big fat

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Speaker 1: ankle monitor he was wearing. Why would you keep someone

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Speaker 1: employed not just with a police arrest, but with a conviction,

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Speaker 1: with a conviction and a big honkin ankle monitor.

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Speaker 14: Nancy, these things have. When you have an ankle monitor

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Speaker 14: because you're not a terrible criminal as far as the

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Speaker 14: system is concerned. You have an ankle monitor because they

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Speaker 14: don't want to incarcerate you. You have an ankle monitor so

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Speaker 14: you can be tracked. They have an ankle monitor that

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Speaker 14: shouldn't come off, that shouldn't lose its battery. But if

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Speaker 14: and when it does, that's when the company that owns

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Speaker 14: those ankle Monitors should immediately immediately notify law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see, we all know what you did right there.

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Speaker 1: I know you got your law degree, But is there

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Speaker 1: a magician hiding deep inside your soul? Because you I

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Speaker 1: ask you this and you try to show me that

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Speaker 1: it's like pulling a different rabbit out of the hat.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I asked for.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about what a great person he is, and

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Speaker 1: you're suddenly talking about it's the ankle Monitors companies fault

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Speaker 1: that they didn't catch him. Let's just hear who we're

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 15: Gary and Grace Day bring their four year old baby

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Speaker 15: Carter to the emergency room with what they think is

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Speaker 15: a broken leg. Doctors do not believe the parents's story

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Speaker 15: Arkansas DCFS gets involved in the case, and Gary Day

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Speaker 1: Before Darryl Coe in defense attorney pipes in and tries

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Speaker 2: In a drain.

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now is special guest doctor Stacy Vaughn,

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Speaker 1: a vice president of Growth and Prevention at child help

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Speaker 1: dot org, one of my favorite groups, child help dot org.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Stacey Vaughn, thank you for being with us. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear that this incident occurred days before? And they

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Speaker 2: Said broken leg. The child has been suffering.

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Speaker 1: It's only four months old with a potential broken leg,

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Speaker 2: Wow, I wonder if his ear and his face got

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Speaker 2: But guess what they get to take the baby home?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Nancy, And that's so typical of what happens when

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Speaker 2: I don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, doctor Stacey Vaughn, it didn't end there.

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Speaker 17: Four years later, Grace Day files a police report claiming

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Speaker 17: Day admitted he lost it when he found Carter climbing

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Speaker 17: this isn't the first time Day has hurt him. Gary

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Speaker 17: Day is charged with domestic battery, but the state does

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Speaker 2: I do not understand that at all.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Kohen, can you just take your defense hat off

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Speaker 1: for just one moment and go back to your glory

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Speaker 1: days when you were on the right side of the law.

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Speaker 2: Really, they didn't have enough evidence.

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Speaker 1: You've got a child with a prior where he brought

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Speaker 14: Why maybe, Nancy, they felt like they had enough to

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Speaker 14: him DA's time, let him be on perrobation, which really

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Speaker 14: means I am waiting trial. Maybe they didn't feel that

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Speaker 1: Okay, Darryl, Yes, No, do you have any facts supporting

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Speaker 1: anything you just said? Are you just spinning it out

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Speaker 1: like Rubel Stillskin?

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Speaker 14: Right, You're spinning no facts, just basic knowledge of the law,

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Speaker 14: you see, Nancy, Basic knowledge of the way the system worked,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall before Darryl can say something else, it's

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Speaker 1: the same for second verse, same as the first. The

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Speaker 1: but he's got a potentially broken leg. Then four years later,

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 2: He walks away and now so.

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Speaker 1: Theia is pregnant and missing with a known predator.

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Speaker 2: You know, Nuncy.

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Speaker 13: It made me wonder if he is in pregnating women

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Speaker 13: them and be cruel to them. Nancy, we know of

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Speaker 13: the two crimes against the four year old. Where are

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Speaker 13: all the other undergage girls that he's probably predating upon two?

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Speaker 13: This is just the tip of the iceberg, Nancy. This

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Speaker 13: is Sophia and this is a four year old. There

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Speaker 13: are other girls out there. There are other heartbroken parents

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Speaker 13: who's trying to alien they alienate their daughters from them.

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Speaker 13: This story is going to grow and spread. This guy

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Speaker 3: Trouble unfolds in Wisconsin when sixteen year old Sophia Franklin

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Speaker 1: What is he talking about? An older man? It makes

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Speaker 9: Days before her disappearance, Sophia's parents discover a strange Google

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Speaker 9: Dave repeatedly threatened suicide, and Sophia attempts to console him,

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Speaker 9: you wanted a girl, and I know how much you

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Speaker 9: care for your children. Day simply responds, tell her, I'm dead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, Tell the unborn baby girl that they just

447
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Speaker 1: turned sixteen year old. Little girl is Carrie, he says,

448
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Speaker 1: Tell her, I'm dead. Threats of suicide are common amongst

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Speaker 1: child sex predators, and here it is again joining me

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Speaker 1: right now a special guest. In addition to doctor Bethany

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Speaker 1: Marshall and Shawna Burns, to Tanya Jordan joining us. She

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Speaker 1: is the chief parent Officer at BARK Parental Controls, author

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Speaker 1: of Parenting in a Tech World. The parents noticed strange

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Speaker 1: Google accounts that couldn't break in, so they bring in

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Speaker 1: the sheriff and what they find is very distressing.

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Speaker 2: It's not a new story to Tanya.

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Speaker 18: It's not a new story, Nancy. Unfortunately, so many children

458
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Speaker 18: are being harmed by predators online in places and spaces

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Speaker 18: that parents have no idea exists. So the reason that

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Speaker 18: we know about the rate at which children are harmed

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Speaker 18: online on places like Gmail, et cetera, is because at

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Speaker 18: BARK we helped to protect over seven point four million

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Speaker 18: children across the nation, and just over the course of

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Speaker 18: twenty twenty four, we analyzed almost eight billion activities across

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Speaker 18: places like Gmail, Google Docs, text, email, YouTube, over thirty apps,

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Speaker 18: and children are being harmed and groomed in places that

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Speaker 18: parents might think are perfectly safe.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Shawna Burns joining us, Shauna's daughter Haley

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Speaker 1: was lured online. She was missing approximately a year. She

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Speaker 1: was kept in a cage, starved, sex abused, beaten, Shauna.

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Speaker 1: Before your daughter was kidnapped, her perp was lying about

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Speaker 1: who he was and contacting her online, and you had

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Speaker 1: no idea.

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Speaker 6: No, we had absolutely no idea.

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Speaker 19: It's it's exactly what your prosecutor friend was saying earlier.

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Speaker 19: He presented it to her that we would never understand her,

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Speaker 19: we would never be able.

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Speaker 6: To just accept her the way that she.

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Speaker 12: Was, and.

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Speaker 19: That he could and that he could help her with

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Speaker 19: her anorexia and can help her to get to her

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Speaker 19: ideal weight, and that we were always gonna learn to

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Speaker 19: find deal weight.

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Speaker 2: Her ideal weight. She's just a little girl.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't need to be worried about her ideal weight.

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Speaker 1: He preyed upon her, finding her in a chat room.

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Speaker 1: She was actually, as I recall, using a computer at school.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that right, Shauna?

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 19: Every bit of communication happened with them at school, so you.

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Speaker 1: Had no way of knowing, and in your mind, Haley

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Speaker 1: was perfectly fine, no indication that this was happening. Guys,

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Speaker 1: same thing here with Sophia.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 15: Sophia Franklin, sixteen is raised in beaver Dam, Wisconsin, in

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Speaker 15: a large, loving family. She's the second oldest of her

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Speaker 15: six siblings. A proud golden beaver at beaver Dam High

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Speaker 15: sings in choir and attends church with her family at

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Speaker 15: Bible Baptist every Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Alexis Tereschuk joining me in Crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter.

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Speaker 1: This little girl, Sophia, who is now probably being held

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Speaker 1: and some interstate motel with the car hidden somewhere and

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Speaker 1: being brought an egg McMuffin from McDonald's in exchange for

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Speaker 1: statutory rapes all day long.

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Speaker 2: That's what's happening to her right now. That's true.

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Speaker 10: She has been missing. She was taken from her home.

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Speaker 10: She is pregnant by this man who is as you said,

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Speaker 10: he's almost forty one years old. This has been ongoing

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Speaker 10: for months. Her parents have tried to stop this. They

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Speaker 10: contacted the police immediately. They showed the police their phone.

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Speaker 10: They said, she is still talking to this predator. Nothing

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Speaker 10: is stopping him. Nothing. He has an ankle monitor only

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Speaker 10: he is able to drive, He's able to go out

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Speaker 10: in public. He is able to get to her. He's

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Speaker 10: cross state lines, violated every bit of probation, and still

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Speaker 10: was able to get her and she left her home

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Speaker 10: and she is not old enough to, according to law,

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Speaker 10: to be able to be making these decisions on her own.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, a missing teen girl we

520
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Speaker 1: believe about four months pregnant by a known child predator.

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Speaker 1: He has kidnapped her and they are on the run

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Speaker 1: in a twenty fourteen black Buick Lacrosse.

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Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel.

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Speaker 1: But let me just tell you all the warnings were there,

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Speaker 1: and there's a backstory.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 9: Gary Day is four years into a six year probation

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Speaker 9: sentence and is used to surprise visits from his probation officer.

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Speaker 9: But in December, the forty year old seems extremely nervous.

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Speaker 9: When the officer stops by, the supervisor also catches a

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Speaker 9: glimpse of a woman running out the back door. He

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Speaker 9: immediately chases her down and after an intense line of questioning,

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Speaker 9: gets out that she is just sixteen years old and

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Speaker 9: from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: This is what happened.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when you are on probation or parole,

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Speaker 1: you are subject to surprise visits from probation or parole officers.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened here, and the perp i' to very

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00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: nervous when the probation parole came to the door and

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Speaker 1: then little girl runs out the back who Sophia listen When.

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Speaker 11: They went a check on him, somebody round out the

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Speaker 11: back door, and that turned out to be a sixteen

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Speaker 11: year old female from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: Sophia Franklin is removed from Day's home and taken from

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Speaker 4: a medical examination while authorities contact her family. Her parents

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Speaker 4: are shocked and horrified to learn their daughter has been

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Speaker 4: with a predator, and even more a paul to learn

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Speaker 4: she's pregnant. Sophia is returned to Wisconsin as quickly as possible,

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Speaker 4: and her parents take every step possible to protect her

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Speaker 4: from Day and help their daughter heal.

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Speaker 1: Def from our friends at CBA Chicago and let'sus terrez

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Speaker 1: Chuk join usclimonline dot com Alexis, how did she end.

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00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: Up in his home before the kidnapped?

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Speaker 10: They started talking to each other online. She then convinced

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Speaker 10: her parents that she wanted to go stay with a friend.

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Speaker 10: It was summertime, she wanted to go visit and stay

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Speaker 10: with his friend, so they said okay. They believed she

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Speaker 10: was going to stay with his friend. In the meantime,

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Speaker 10: he had been telling her that he was going to

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Speaker 10: come get her.

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Speaker 18: He did.

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Speaker 10: He came and got her. She went and stayed at

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Speaker 10: his house. He crossed state lines to get her. He

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Speaker 10: took her back to Arkansas from Wisconsin. And that's where

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Speaker 10: she was saying, and her friend was helping her lie

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Speaker 10: to her parents. They were all lying and saying that

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Speaker 10: she was with a friend. Nobody knew that she was

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Speaker 10: with this old man predator.

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Speaker 2: Oh my stars, doctor Bethany Marshall.

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Speaker 1: One little week or two sleep away during the summer

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Speaker 1: turns into this.

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Speaker 2: And when of his parole probation officer knocks on the door,

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Speaker 2: would they say, a girl running out in the back.

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Speaker 2: It's her.

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Speaker 1: He has been targeting her and statutorly raping her.

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Speaker 2: For so long. That's how she got pregnant.

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Speaker 13: He was grooming her. He was alienating her from her parents.

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Speaker 13: He was making her feel special and unique and desirable

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Speaker 13: and understood in ways that she imagines nobody else can.

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Speaker 13: He made her feel that the family going to the

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Speaker 13: Baptist church was sort of all wrong in a perverse

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Speaker 13: kind of life, and that the life he could offer

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Speaker 13: her was great. Little does he know, does she? Little

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Speaker 13: does she know? He's driving his mother's car. He probably

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Speaker 13: has no money, nothing to offer her. He's a pervert,

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Speaker 13: he's abusive. He doesn't even treat his own children kindly.

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Speaker 13: He probably has other girls he's grooming, so when she

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Speaker 13: ages out, he can move on to the next victim, Nancy,

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Speaker 13: because that's what they do. They only victimize for a

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Speaker 13: certain period of time until the control slips. Then they

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Speaker 13: lose interest in the victim and they go on to

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Speaker 13: another one. It's not like stalkers who stay in love

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Speaker 13: with the victim, maybe for years at a time. These

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Speaker 13: predators only want the children as long as they can

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Speaker 13: have power over them and alienate them from the parents,

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Speaker 13: and then when that power slips, Nancy, they are not

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Speaker 13: interested anymore.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 1: When she wakes up in that roadside motel and realizes

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Speaker 1: she wants to go home, he's already threatened to commit suicide.

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Speaker 1: What will happen then? To Tania Jordan joining US Chief

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Speaker 1: Parent Office at BART Parental Controls, author of Parenting in

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Speaker 1: a Tech World, to Tanya, it's always lies, and these

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00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: predators actually target the child online. They find things out

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Speaker 1: about them, like oh, she goes to Bible Baptist church.

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Speaker 1: Oh she plays soccer. Oh, she goes to beaver Dam

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Speaker 1: High High School. They find out things by looking up

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Speaker 1: the child's profile online. Then they start befriending the child.

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Speaker 1: Oh I play soccer too, Oh I was a beaver

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Speaker 1: My cousin goes to that high school.

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Speaker 2: So she graduated last year. You probably don't know her.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, and they start spanning the tale.

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Speaker 18: To Tanya Nancy, it is so important for every parent

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Speaker 18: and every caregiver to realize that there's over half a

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Speaker 18: million predators online at any given time that we know of,

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Speaker 18: and that's according to the FBI. So please don't think

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Speaker 18: not my child. It's not a matter of if, but

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Speaker 18: when they're going to encounter somebody trying to message them

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Speaker 18: online to groom them, befriend them, and worse. And that's

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Speaker 18: why we've got to have these conversations proactively. Please don't

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Speaker 18: think not my kid.

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Speaker 2: There's a very famous quote that says, if that is

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Speaker 2: the law, then the law is an ass. Truer words

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Speaker 2: were never spoken. Listen to that.

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Speaker 15: Unfortunately, law enforcement has a hard time holding Day accountable

626
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Speaker 15: at the age of content in Arkansas sixteen, So Day

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Speaker 15: is not committed a chargeable sex crime. Day is charged

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Speaker 15: with violating this probation, contributing to the delinquency of a minor,

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Speaker 15: and interfering with custody. The Franklins push for more serious

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Speaker 15: charges in Wisconsin, but for now are only able to

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Speaker 15: obtain a no contact order with Day.

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Speaker 11: It's an antiquated law rules. We're going to work on

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Speaker 11: changing that. I'm going to work with some of our legislators.

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna reach out to them and let um know

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Speaker 11: that that's something we we probably should change, especially with

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Speaker 11: all the trafficking and the issues that we have.

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Speaker 2: Probably should change.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the Arkansas Sheriff John Steally, and that's my

639
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Speaker 1: friends at five News and antiquated law Daryl Cohen and

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00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: antiquated law that you know that says to me, it's

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00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: been around so long, you should know.

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Speaker 2: You have to fix it, but nobody's done anything.

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Speaker 1: And now Sophia is with a forty one soon to

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Speaker 1: be forty one year old predator in some motel getting

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Speaker 1: statutorily raped in exchange her in egg McMuffin.

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Speaker 2: That's what's happening.

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Speaker 14: And see in Arkansas, it is not statutorily raped. Whether

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Speaker 14: we like it or not, and I don't. She has

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Speaker 14: the right as a sixteen year old to engage in

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Speaker 14: sex as long as it's voluntary other states.

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Speaker 2: In Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: In Arkansas, but wait a minute, Wait a minute, in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: the age of consent is eighteen. I believe they started

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Speaker 1: having sex relations if you can call it that, when

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Speaker 1: she's fifteen, because she's sixteen and four months pregnant.

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Speaker 2: But that said, so you're telling.

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Speaker 1: Me it's okay for him to go and get her

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Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin, where the age of consent is eighteen,

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Speaker 1: take her across state lines to Arkansas and rape her,

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Speaker 1: and that's okay.

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Speaker 14: I'm not saying it's okay. I'm saying little like you

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Speaker 14: want not prevent Well, it sounds like I am, but

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Speaker 14: I'm not. I'm saying losses that she can engage voluntarily

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Speaker 14: in sex in Arkansas when she is sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Or okay, let me rephrase my question. Isn't it a

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Speaker 1: felony to take a minor across state lines for the

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Speaker 1: purposes of sex?

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Speaker 2: Think Jared Fogel, the Subway guy? Does that?

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Speaker 1: Jog your recollection regarding the black and White letter of

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Speaker 1: the law, Daryl Cohen.

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Speaker 14: Do I like what happened.

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Speaker 2: No, the Man Act is the man answering.

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Speaker 14: That is a federal law. Did he violate? Okay, you

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Speaker 14: know what likely he did.

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Speaker 2: If I held.

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Speaker 1: You over a fire with your toes dangling in the flames,

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Speaker 1: you would never admit what he.

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Speaker 2: Did is a crime. Okay, let's deal with reality.

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Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons, I'm never going to get the right answer

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Speaker 1: out of Daryl Cohen. I completely understand that. That's why

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Speaker 1: I win so many cases. Can we talk about how

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Speaker 1: we're going to find her.

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Speaker 8: At this point, Nancy, We've got to be looking at

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Speaker 8: number one, can we track the vehicle? If that's impossible,

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Speaker 8: we have to start looking at cell phones? Where is

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Speaker 8: Gary Day getting money to survive? At this point, those

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Speaker 8: are the three top issues that I would be looking at.

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Speaker 8: It's number one, the vehicle tracking, number two cell phone tracking,

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Speaker 8: and then the third the third spot would be how

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Speaker 8: is he staying alive here? How are they eating? Where

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Speaker 8: are they staying? Where is he getting funding?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you this, Pitz Givevens, they ain't at

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Speaker 1: the Ritz. If you know or think you know anything

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Speaker 1: about the location of Sophia, please dial Beaver d MPD

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Speaker 1: nine two zero, eight eight seven four six one two

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Speaker 1: repeat nine two zero eight eight seven four six one two,

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Speaker 1: or the Amber Alert tip Line eight eight eight three

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Speaker 1: zero four three nine three six repeat eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: three zero four three nine three six, or reach out

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Speaker 1: to our friends at childhelp dot org. You can find

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Speaker 1: them online or at eight hundred for a Child eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four two two four four five eight.

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Speaker 2: I can't stress how many cases like this end in

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Speaker 2: further tragedy. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend