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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey.

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Speaker 2: We're back. We're rusty and happy New Year. I missed

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Speaker 2: you so much.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I wish you guys could see because

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Speaker 1: Mandy has her hair straight end. I feel like, you

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Speaker 1: know what I want to start. Call this Mandy cam hm.

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Speaker 1: So Mandy's hair girl.

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Speaker 2: In my pretty school. Uh pbs special battery.

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Speaker 1: But her hair is so long and so full luxurious.

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Speaker 1: It's giving, pelt, it's giving, thick, it's giving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks so beautiful straight.

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Speaker 2: Let me show you what it's First of all, for

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Speaker 2: you guys to know, happy New Year. This feels like

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Speaker 2: a new year, New me situation. I don't really usually

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Speaker 2: believe in that ship. However, if you haven't tried five

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Speaker 2: day a week daycare for you were seventh month old baby,

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Speaker 2: is this very specific advice? Try it? Because I feel

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Speaker 2: brand fucking oh my god, the way that I just

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Speaker 2: in my like the way that I brushed my teeth

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Speaker 2: when I wanted to today and then took a shower

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Speaker 2: when I wanted to, and I kept hearing phantom baby cries.

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Speaker 2: But uh, I'm so happy remy rue is in daycare

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Speaker 2: for the low low price of Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: How much three thousand, two hundred forty five US American

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Speaker 2: dollars a baby, Jesus, Yes, a month, just for just

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Speaker 2: for remy. Do you know what my mortgages less than that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? How people with kids?

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Speaker 2: Holy shit. I could go on, I could go on,

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Speaker 2: but you know what, it's an investment and hey, book

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Speaker 2: advance money. Thank you because that's what you buy me.

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Speaker 2: That's what you bought me. Yeah, yeah, yea, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's what we could get the cheaper place. The

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Speaker 2: wait list was full, et cetera. But he's so you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a dream.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I didn't know. I remember when Carol had the

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Speaker 1: two kids in daycare. At the time, it was twenty

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Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. But that was for two kids.

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Speaker 2: For two of them. Lord, So infants are more expensive,

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Speaker 2: that's true, I think so. Which why because they're less annoying?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Because honestly, babies, I mean it's.

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Speaker 2: Especially in the winter time. There should be a discount

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Speaker 2: because them little toddlers, they have to put mittens hats.

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Speaker 2: Like I watched the train of children go out and

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Speaker 2: I just asked them, how long did it take you?

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Speaker 2: Have you been in there for an hour? Getting them

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Speaker 4: Well, how was your your Christmas in New Year? It's over.

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Speaker 2: That's all I care to say about the holidays, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to. Typically I'm very sunshine and optimism,

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Speaker 2: but their holidays were rough, augh and partly because we

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Speaker 2: traveled with I travel I should say, alone with my

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Speaker 2: two children from New York to Atlanta, which I've done

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Speaker 2: with Remy like three times in the last few months.

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Speaker 2: But actually I wanted tom blame the kids. They were

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Speaker 2: the easy part. I've got some dream babies, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they're just the best. But the airports and the packing,

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Speaker 2: the packing, Tiffany, the number of suitcases. I just kept saying,

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Speaker 2: then the breast pump and then the travel crib. And

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Speaker 2: I thought I was saving so much space by buying

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I get there and not only is he

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Speaker 2: the way, Atlanta Airport, you suck. Why are there no

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Speaker 2: there are at LaGuardia. Yeah, Freckles, Yes, his name is

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Speaker 2: Freckles Freckleton at the LaGuardia Airport. That's my guy. He

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Speaker 2: recognized me and Remy. He's like, I've seen you here

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Speaker 2: a few times. I'm like, yeah, bring the cart around, Freckles.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get from like where we were at baggage

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Speaker 2: then and you know that they're going to give you attitude,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're going to say, this isn't my job.

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Speaker 2: Go somewhere else. Nachelle at the Atlanta air for Nichelle

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Speaker 2: with an n I love you, baby girl, thank you

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Speaker 2: stopped you with my eyes and I said, I know

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Speaker 2: and then dang, I forgot the guy's name who helped

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Speaker 2: that was those those two people, and the random guy

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Oh yeah. It was so it

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Speaker 2: was just exhausting, but they had one. They had a

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Speaker 2: great time. What about you?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 1: YEA, Mine was pretty low key because I stayed in Jersey,

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Speaker 1: my mom was in Nigeria, and my sister Lisa were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and so it.

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Speaker 1: Was myself, my sister Carol Roman, and a million My

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Speaker 1: sister Karen flew up for New Year's which was nice, oh,

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Speaker 2: I it must be nice being the point of destination.

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Speaker 4: It is, honestly, because I could just go up to this.

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm like, why are we the ones with

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Speaker 1: I've always like, come here. I sent an uber for

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Speaker 4: Nobody to tell.

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Speaker 1: But I had a really tough conversation, you know. I

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Speaker 2: We're going there.

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Speaker 1: We both keep a light light because yeah, but because

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Speaker 2: But already a weekend. The Christians flights are coming down?

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Speaker 2: Can't we just forget?

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Speaker 1: So I had some but I was really proud of

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Speaker 1: do tough conversations, especially not family ones. But I initiated

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Speaker 4: Proud of myself.

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Speaker 1: I slayed the dragon and I said, wait, I talk

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Speaker 1: to doctor Green. I have I see here. Well, by

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Speaker 1: the time y'all listen to this, it'll be Wednesday when

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Speaker 4: I was just really proud of myself.

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Speaker 1: I said, yes, you said the things, Tiffany. It's it's

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Speaker 4: Are we no, I'm not getting married?

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Speaker 2: A saying no I know about? Are you at least

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Speaker 4: That I'm dated?

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Speaker 1: I'm dated?

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Speaker 1: You go on podcast fish Okay, Yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: not just women, the widowers, that decide that they will

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Speaker 1: And certainly, no, you can't get Jarrell twice, but it

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Speaker 1: again because for me, like life with Jarrell was so

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Speaker 1: for me with the right person made life so beautiful,

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Speaker 1: like I could take on the world, you know, as Mandy,

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Speaker 1: you heard me and Mandy talk about this book Attached

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Speaker 1: Yes a lot, And so I'm reading. I'm on chapter seven, Mandy,

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Speaker 1: and it talks about secure attachment. And when I was

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Speaker 1: just listening to that one yes, my favorite secure base

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Speaker 2: My favorite line from that that I have been repeating

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Speaker 2: their partner's happiness. Yes, and that I think that is

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Speaker 2: sort of like it goes against what you typically think about,

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Speaker 2: like you must make yourself perfect and happy before you

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Speaker 2: some extent you are responsible for a lot of your happiness. However,

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Speaker 2: the right partner, who really cares about your happiness, it matters.

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Speaker 4: But it does matter, and so much difference.

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Speaker 1: Williams is a damn fool, he is hilarious, So it

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Speaker 1: was a mix of him doing kind of like stand up,

435
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Speaker 1: although I'm sure he wouldn't say that's what it was.

436
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Speaker 1: He went on there to do an interview and Kat

437
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Speaker 1: Williams came with a suitcase full of grudges.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, Shannon.

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Speaker 1: Was like, good morning Kat, and Kat was like f

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvey entertainer.

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Speaker 4: We were like, wait, he didn't have.

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Speaker 2: It just Kat's career right now. Like, I know, he's

443
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Speaker 2: a famous stand up and probably a gajillionaire, but where's

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Speaker 2: he at in his career?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So he said that he's currently I guess he's taping

447
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Speaker 1: a Netflix special, a figure Netflix special coming up. So

448
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Speaker 1: he's been very successful also too, he was in a

449
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Speaker 1: oh it was a show where he got nominated for

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Speaker 1: a Emmy. No, I think he won the Emmy. And

451
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Speaker 1: so Kat is just a really talented, hilarious, funny comedian.

452
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Speaker 1: And so it was such an interesting master class of

453
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Speaker 1: when someone had a clear agenda when they came onto

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Speaker 1: a show and.

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Speaker 4: Navigated that interview how he wanted it to go. It is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the last time I check, it was over

457
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Speaker 1: twenty million views in less than a week. It was

458
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Speaker 1: like over ten million I think the first day. And

459
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Speaker 1: he had a clear agenda of comedians that he did

460
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Speaker 1: not have respect for that he wanted to expose and

461
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Speaker 1: he did. But also he was also hilarious and funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean he there were so many memes that came

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Speaker 1: out of it, like, Shannon, you have an unnatural allegiance

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Speaker 1: with losers and that's not like you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Shannon, I think.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not going fami. From what I know, Shannon

468
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Speaker 1: used to be an NFL player, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: he was like on one of those like sports talk

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Speaker 1: shows or whatever, and then something happened where he left

471
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Speaker 1: or he got kicked off or whatever, and then started

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Speaker 1: his own like show, splash, podcast whatever, which is this

473
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Speaker 1: club station, and what I normally have seen from clips,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of athletes that were coming on, but

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Speaker 1: also entertainers. So I'm not you know, I'm not super

476
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Speaker 1: familiar with Shannon or his platform. It's just that because

477
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Speaker 1: this show came out, I actually watched. You have to

478
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Speaker 1: not just watch, but listen to the whole thing, and

479
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: it was a masterclass of just shenanigans. I mean, so

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Speaker 1: just watch it.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna be like, oh my god, cat, don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm sure half of what he said was not

483
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Speaker 1: true because half of it was embellished obviously and like

484
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Speaker 1: I as comedians are apt to do. But there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of things there that you're like, oh wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, like comedians that stole his jokes that he

487
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Speaker 1: was angry at and to us we think, like, what's

488
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Speaker 1: the big deal. But for comedians that's your currency. That's

489
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Speaker 1: like someone stealing like you know, the my literature challenge

490
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Speaker 1: and using it as theirs the thing that you created

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Speaker 1: that draws people to you.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, there was just a lot of exposing.

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Speaker 1: No. One of my one of my favorite lines, he said,

494
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Speaker 1: he said, my goal when I left Hollywood was to

495
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Speaker 1: not suck any beat and to leave with my virgin,

496
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Speaker 1: my butthole still a virgin. He said.

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Speaker 4: This is my goal in being Hollywood.

498
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Speaker 1: He said, because and then he said this, he said,

499
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: because he Diddy is gonna want a party, and you

500
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Speaker 1: got to tell him no. You got to tell him

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Speaker 1: no the way I howered, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Another reputation that was doing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it's just you have to go.

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Speaker 2: That's what happened he's gone, well, yeah, so apparently so

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Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle Styler kind of.

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Speaker 1: That basically, how we all have heard the stories about

507
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Speaker 1: how toxic and terrible Hollywood is, so he basically was

508
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Speaker 1: exposing it from the comedian's perspective.

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Speaker 4: That's really the purpose.

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Speaker 1: Of this interview scene to be to expose Hollywood, Hollywood

511
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Speaker 1: from the comedian's perspective, but in a way that was

512
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Speaker 1: funny and entertaining, but also like a cautionary tale of

513
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Speaker 1: like one of the reasons why it might not be

514
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Speaker 1: as big as some of your biggest is because I said, now,

515
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Speaker 1: it's because I wouldn't do so and things, and so

516
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Speaker 1: that was kind of like the premise.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think taking the high road. This is one

518
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Speaker 2: of those situations where it's kind of like an exit interview,

519
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: and it's like, is it ever really worth it to

520
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: tell everyone how you feel about everything? I just feel

521
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: in the end it hurts you, you know, because then

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking like it kind of it's it sounds

523
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Speaker 2: like a sore loser kind of situation where you're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I would have been bigger if everybody else da da

525
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Speaker 2: da da da, you know, but I have to.

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Speaker 1: Watch it, because I feel like he walked the very

527
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Speaker 1: thin fine line of sounding bitter but not quite.

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Speaker 2: Okay, No he went on some rampage.

529
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Speaker 1: No, because he's just honestly was also hilarious and calm.

530
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Speaker 1: And and then what came out afterwards is that so

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Speaker 1: many people, so many comedians, young comedians and and just

532
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: other people came out to say how many times that

533
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Speaker 1: Cat Williams had helped them and sent them money and

534
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Speaker 1: without you know, them knowing, like they would do maybe

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Speaker 1: a set. You know, you're you're at a comedy club

536
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Speaker 1: and they're not paying you. You know, you do an

537
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Speaker 1: amazing set, and he would have somebody come over give

538
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Speaker 1: you a thousand dollars, but not let that person tell

539
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: you it was from him, you know. And so that

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Speaker 1: he did that a lot, and so a lot of

541
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Speaker 1: people came forward and was like, you know, Kat has

542
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Speaker 1: been so generous with his time, his resources, his energy,

543
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: his whole life. So that was really nice to see too. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was just hilarious.

545
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Speaker 2: If you want another perspective on comedy, I really I

546
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: started to listen to Leslie Jones' book, Leslie Fucking Jones,

547
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: and just the first like I think I'm on the

548
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: chapter like four, I'm where she's playing basketball in high school.

549
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Speaker 2: This is so funny. That got me through an all

550
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: night I was cleaning my dad's kitchen back to the holidays.

551
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: Why am I re traumatizing myself? I cleaned my dad's

552
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Speaker 2: kitchen from ten pm to four am, I said, Mary

553
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Speaker 2: Grimos here, I am. I'm up on your floor for

554
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: the fifth time. So gross. Anyway, she got me through

555
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: that with her book, And anyway, in the beginning, she

556
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: talks about Chris Rock and how you know, he was

557
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 2: sort of her mentor and then like her perspective as

558
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Speaker 2: a working successful but like not like you know, a

559
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 2: list comedian and how they get like the travel and

560
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 2: the and the fighting for your fees. I just, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would recommend that it's really good and really funny

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Speaker 2: because I.

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Speaker 1: Think that was like a big theme of that's how

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Speaker 1: they break about pay right. Because Taraji came out.

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Speaker 2: That thank you for segueing three on my list.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know you had a last but here.

567
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Speaker 2: We are, yes, mom, brain, Yeah, Taraji, Taraji, Taraji tell

568
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Speaker 2: us about it. TEF.

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Speaker 1: So Taraji was doing this interview and she kind of

570
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Speaker 1: broke down and She shared how they don't make as

571
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Speaker 1: much as you think that you might take home as

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Speaker 1: little as ten percent of whatever your contract was. She said,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's just say you get a million dollars

574
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Speaker 1: to do a film, right, and then you know, you

575
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: have a representation that's usually like ten or fifteen percent, right,

576
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Speaker 1: and then an attorney is five percent usually they take

577
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Speaker 1: and then you might have a publicist, you might have

578
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Speaker 1: social media. By the time you would it all down

579
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: that million dollars, you might only pocket one hundred thousand,

580
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Speaker 1: you know, in that you know.

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Speaker 4: So I remember I saw my friend Yvonne.

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Speaker 1: Og she had posted that like on average, she takes

583
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Speaker 1: home only thirty percent of like whatever her contract is

584
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Speaker 1: after everything else is paid. And I thought, wow, because

585
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: sometimes we see like, oh my gosh, you know, you

586
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: got a million dollars, you know, but not knowing this

587
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: person took home one hundred thousand. Now here's the thing.

588
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: You might be like, well, that's still one hundred thousand,

589
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: but Taraji's not getting paid a million. That's just some

590
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: numbers I'm sharing. Like, So she did Benjamin Button. Then

591
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: she went like an Academy Award for that.

592
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Speaker 2: She was nominated but dominated yeah.

593
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Speaker 1: And it was an amazing movie. If you haven't seen

594
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Speaker 1: that movie, brad Pitt got paid ten million. She got

595
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand, and so what is ten

596
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Speaker 1: percent of one hundred and fifty thousand. Isn't that fifteen

597
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Speaker 1: thousand for like.

598
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Speaker 2: Six months of your life because you got to be

599
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Speaker 2: on set and then more time to promote it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and on top of that being a black woman, I'll

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Speaker 2: just note it's ten percent of a fee that's already

602
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: going to be diminished because you don't look like the

603
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Speaker 2: you know, you're not going to do well overseas as

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Speaker 2: they say about black films.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just really I said, there was a

606
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Speaker 1: lot of sympathy, but some people were like, oh, Taraji's networth,

607
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: it's twelve million dollars.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, y'all won't believe any memes.

609
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Speaker 1: First of all, what that's just somebody's just slapped down

610
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Speaker 1: on in font Times New Roman Fond. You know, it

611
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: just had you realize because there are there's this great

612
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: book called The Millionaire next Door where they talk about

613
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Speaker 1: that there are some professions that it's harder to become

614
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Speaker 1: a millionaire because of the maintenance of the profession, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know, So for example, when I was teaching preschool

616
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Speaker 1: and I was driving my you know, ninety nine toyo

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Speaker 1: to camera, nobody cared. I'm a preschool teacher. I used

618
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Speaker 1: to literally wear scrubs like nurses, scrubs like my uniform.

619
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Speaker 1: I had five of them. I watched them every week.

620
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Speaker 1: Nobody cared because I was a preschool teacher. That was

621
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Speaker 1: our uniform. And so I used to save most of

622
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Speaker 1: my money invested. In like two and a half years

623
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Speaker 1: of teaching preschool, I had gotten up to thirty thousand

624
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Speaker 1: dollars set aside.

625
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Speaker 4: So but if you.

626
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Speaker 1: Are, say like a plastic surgeon or something like that,

627
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Speaker 1: you know, if you're driving a ninety nine tol you

628
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: to camera, you know, people are going to wonder, like,

629
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: is your business doing well? There are certain things that

630
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: you have to There's a look that you have to

631
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: present that's very expensive. So imagine a Hollywood actress. She

632
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: has to have her lashes done, her brows have to

633
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: stay them, her skin has to look good. So there's

634
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Speaker 1: a lot of maintenance just to be able to be

635
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: considered for jobs that cost. On top of the fact

636
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Speaker 1: that and I saw this happening in the finance space.

637
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this, Mandy, this whole

638
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Speaker 1: I have a manager, I don't you know. So like

639
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: so there's one of my mentees had a manager, which

640
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: can be helpful depending on what you're doing. But a

641
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: cotition manager, yes, But the issue was that the manager

642
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: wasn't bringing her into work, but was getting still fifteen

643
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: percent of any work that came.

644
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: Into her that he or he or she did not know. Okay,

645
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: and so you.

646
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Speaker 1: Know, And so now here's the thing. In general, there's

647
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Speaker 1: usually a mix. Your manager brings in things, so you

648
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: bring in some things. They helped to negotiate the contract

649
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: on both, but she realized after a year he had

650
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: brought nothing to the table.

651
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: He got to eat fifteen percent either way.

652
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: And so I have someone who I use as like

653
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: an odd ad hoc manager, and that she only gets

654
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: paid her fifteen percent on the contracts I sent to

655
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 1: her to negotiate. If I have some partners that I've

656
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: worked with for a number of years, I feel comfortable

657
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: negotiating the contract myself. I get my money, I get

658
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: to keep it all. And then with Ellie, you know,

659
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: I only send her certain things so I'm like, this

660
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: is this is a lot of rigmarole. Go ahead and negotiate,

661
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: and Ellie's really good about not only negotiating, but negotiating

662
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: above and beyond what they're typically trying to offer. So

663
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: it offsets the payment of fifteen percent to her, you know,

664
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: but if you have a manager and you are a

665
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Hollywood starlet or whatever, that's how it goes. Anything that

666
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: comes in, they're getting percentage either way, whether they brought

667
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: it in or not, and so they could just get

668
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: to be really.

669
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: She fired her whole team, she said, yeah, after Empire,

670
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: and you know what I think about it, And I'm like, yeah,

671
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: where was her? Why wasn't she on the lorel commercial?

672
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: Viola Davis got that after you know, what's that show

673
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: with the Llawyer? It's not The Good Life?

674
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 4: How to kill oh?

675
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: To get away with?

676
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, how to kill a millionaire?

677
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: And the marketing budget for you, I don't know whatever? Yeah,

678
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: but she yeah, I you know, and I and I

679
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: think people don't. They reacted poorly to that, Like, you know,

680
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: it just goes against it goes against that idea of

681
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: a woman just being grateful, you know. Fuck that that's

682
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: the twenty four motto, like you don't have to be

683
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: grateful and you deserve and you know what, also, you

684
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: may not want to act for your entire life. And

685
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: the older you get, it's almost like being a gymnast

686
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: or something in Hollywood. The older you get, the less

687
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: capable you are of doing the hoops and the looped loops,

688
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: and the more tired you are. You don't want to

689
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: work forever, but you know you you hope to. That's

690
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: why you see. You know, she launched her own damn hair,

691
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: Caroline tph available at Target. Like I respect that a

692
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: lot about her, and I just think the chatter, the

693
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, that's always going to happen, But

694
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: I don't care. Pay her what she deserves and find

695
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: a team and find people if they're not even if

696
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: they represent a bunch of other people that are very incredible.

697
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: I feel like at the end of the day, if

698
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: if you don't feel like they are. And this also

699
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: applies to people working nine to five with your manager.

700
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: If there's not someone who you know is going to

701
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: bat for you when you're not in the room, like

702
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: that's not that's an indication that you're not going to

703
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: be taken care of. You're not going to go very far.

704
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: And the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can

705
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: excize that person or quit that job and you know,

706
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: move on where you do have advocates because we just

707
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: can't be we can't be lied to and de lie

708
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: to ourselves and say that we're better off just being

709
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: grateful and not pushing back. It's the nice thing to do.

710
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: Don't want to burn bridges all that bs.

711
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: But it's like, man, you stay in that space. I mean,

712
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: that's been the story of my life, you know that, like, oh,

713
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: there's safety and silence, like even like I told you,

714
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: like I had my difficult conversation on Christmas and one

715
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: of my sisters was like, oh, sometimes it's just better

716
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: to keep the peace, Tiffany, I said, but who's peace?

717
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: Who's for?

718
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Who? Who's it better for?

719
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Yes?

720
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: I said, I feel peaceful right about now because I

721
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: said my piece.

722
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: Yes.

723
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: So it's like they're gonna be all right. And guess

724
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 1: what they were. They were all right, We're cool now,

725
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, But a boundary has been said because I

726
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: cannot move forward any longer.

727
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 4: I have made so many changes.

728
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: Mandy knows like so many changes behind the scenes of

729
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: like what my boundaries will and will not allow, And

730
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I just don't want to live the second half of

731
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: my life constricted by you know, what the people gonna say.

732
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's what I call it, Like what

733
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 4: the people gonna say, and.

734
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you're talking about their feelings and not yours,

735
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: and keep the peace for who.

736
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, people think about themselves way more than they think

737
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: about you. They might think of you for two minutes today,

738
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: So for two minutes, I'm going to live my whole

739
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: life because for two minutes somebody might think ill of me.

740
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Like I just I cannot, I will not, and neither

741
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: should you. And I'm so glad that Taraji said something.

742
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: And what I love is that y'all who listen. You know,

743
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: you give us such great feedback of how we've been

744
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: able to like encourage you and push you to ask

745
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: for more, Encourage you and push you to look at

746
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: your finances differently, you know, give you the tools and

747
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: the resources that you need.

748
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: To get what you deserve.

749
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Like you know, the people are always going to say something,

750
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: but not in twenty twenty four.

751
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: We're not living constrained by what the people are gonna.

752
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: Say, let them to walk.

753
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, let them to walk, Let them to.

754
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Walk, Let the girls chatter in the comments and just

755
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: sip your champagne like Taylor's whipped out the globes last night.

756
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: Claudine Gay Harvard, can we please.

757
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: Ooh the way?

758
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, texted my one of my good friends, not the lie,

759
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: one of my one of my former mentors. We've like

760
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: sort of you know how you like go. Everyone knows

761
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: that you get older and you lose touch, but you

762
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: still love those people. Anyway. She's one of the founding

763
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: editors at the Nineteenth, which is the this women led,

764
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 2: women founded media platform that covers just all sorts of things.

765
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: But I was like, if you're covering that, she was

766
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: uncovering Claudine Gay at Harvard, And I'm like, when you

767
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: write your tell all about how black women are doomed

768
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: to fail and just about any industry that we go

769
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: into will be the first usability. But yeah, Claudine Gay

770
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 2: resigning from Harvard as the first black female president less

771
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 2: than what how long did she make? Six seven months?

772
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: I mean, the shortest tenure in their history.

773
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: Jesus. And if that it's so, it's like, why prove

774
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: every like we already knew that. I feel like, as

775
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: black women, that our mistakes are always bigger, We're always

776
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: judged at the highest bar. There's no one who will

777
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: find the fine print in a contract or in whatever

778
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: social code or moral code, whatever. There's no one who

779
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: will look more diligently at the fine print than someone

780
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: trying to steal a position of power from a woman

781
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: of color, you know what I mean? Like this whole

782
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: bullshit around her and let me get back up the

783
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: bullshit around her citations and her work. But Claudine Gay,

784
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: first black president of Harvard, black female as well, was

785
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: she was on She was being what do you call

786
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: it when they're like asked to come to Congress and

787
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: testify and answer questions from what do you call that? Oh?

788
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, I forget what it is, but I

789
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: know you mean.

790
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: They were there. She was there asking questions with several

791
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: level several other heads of the elite universities, and she

792
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: flubbed an answer around uh, you know, would she like

793
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: would she get would it be a violation of student

794
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: conduct if a student was saying anti Semitic remarks and

795
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: calling for the genocide of Israel Israelis and you know, Jews,

796
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: and she flubbed the answer. It was it was not

797
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: a great answer. It was very like my lawyers prepared

798
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: me to say this, and I'm too scared to say

799
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 2: what I really think. But the victual and it wasn't

800
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: just her, it was like the other presidents too. But

801
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: the immediate vitriol and calls for her removal as the

802
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: president of Harvard, that wasn't that was part. That was

803
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: like the first nail in her coffin. And then the

804
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: trolls got to digging and her whole entire body of

805
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: work and found a couple of instances where she hadn't

806
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: properly like cited sources in her research and ultimately in

807
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: her statement. And also she wrote an op ed for

808
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: The New York Times. She talks about her decision to resign,

809
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: but at the same time, it's like, it's if Harvard

810
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: can't protect a woman of color and power, like not

811
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: that I had high expectations, but we're all on watch,

812
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: be on watch. That's why I do Mandy money Makers.

813
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, be on watch. It is not a fair fight.

814
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: We should we want to ascend to levels of power,

815
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, in these institutions. We want to, we deserve,

816
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: we work hard for it. I'm not going to begrudge

817
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 2: anyone of that ambition to rise and to be a leader,

818
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: to make, to be a change maker, to be in

819
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: the room where shit happens. We should all strive for that. However,

820
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: please don't be surprised when all of a sudden, a

821
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: technicality or someone with a little bit of power who

822
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: was never in the room to decide if you got

823
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: to be in there, finally has an issue with it.

824
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: And they hold the money, you know, they hold the

825
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: control over the people who did choose you, and they

826
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 2: decide that no, I actually that's too much, that's not enough.

827
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: We don't like this. There's this one little thing. They

828
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: will pull that lever and you will fall down the

829
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: hatch so fast. What's that in the what's the door

830
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: the moon door in Game of Thrones. You're not really

831
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: a TV person?

832
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't really watch, but I know you

833
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: like that door.

834
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: It's just like push the red button bye.

835
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: So and it's just it's one of the reasons why

836
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: I think you and I both kind of decided to

837
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: do work outside of the confines of that kind of energy.

838
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: So many black women. This is why we're the number

839
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: one like growing, you know, to any community entrepreneurs.

840
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, because we're just like, yeah, there's actually no

841
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: winning here. So I'm going to create my own thing

842
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: where at least I have a fighting chance because I

843
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: know that if I work really hard, the budgetiese is

844
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: going to work one way or another. I don't want

845
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: to be in a position where I'm like, I can

846
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: work really hard and do all the right things and

847
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: then it can be snatching. It doesn't mean I'm immune

848
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: because still the space people still try me, Brands still

849
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: try to get cute, still try to underpay.

850
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: But this is why we have conversations.

851
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I say, man, girl ask for this,

852
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just there's no way to escape

853
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: this in totality.

854
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: But certainly I'm trying my best to create that life

855
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: for myself and then have it reflected in the women

856
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: that I hire on my team. A safe space. But yeah,

857
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: when I saw.

858
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 1: That, I was just like, only to find out that,

859
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: you know, the main guy, I guess that was like

860
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, campaigning against or his yes, his wife openly

861
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: plagiarized in her thesis.

862
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well yeah, And I mean she's

863
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: like it was three it was one page out of

864
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: three hundred, and I'm like, oh, well, but the rules

865
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: are different, you know what I mean, The rules are different,

866
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: and it depends on well, we don't need it. Yes,

867
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: the rules are different, and the fine print only matters

868
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: when people care enough to make it matter, and you're

869
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: someone that they need to they need to foul out,

870
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: that they need to get out the game because they

871
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: figure you and everything you stand for. And if y'all

872
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: haven't read Claudines op ed in The New York Times,

873
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: she talks about that bigger issue so eloquently and ugh,

874
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: this is real quick to if I not real quick.

875
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: But I also the other side of this conversation around

876
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: how we're just you know, you can be fine. You

877
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: can you can definitely, you can, you can definitely reach

878
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: high heights. I feel like in many institutions, as a

879
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: woman of color, if you work hard enough and you

880
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: get lucky enough and you know the right people, it's possible.

881
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: I think both of us, especially me, like we did

882
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: the damn thing until in my outspeaker for myself, I

883
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: decided to leave. And one of the questions that I

884
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: recently got from. I want to call them a mentee.

885
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: But someone who I was like offering advice to, was well,

886
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: I feel like, shouldn't I stay so that I can

887
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: make it easier for the next to come after me?

888
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: And you know, and the one hand, I can see

889
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: that line of thought, but I also feel very at

890
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: peace with how it's not our responsibility to fix those

891
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: broken systems, and also we cannot because we do not

892
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: hold the power. People who don't look like us have

893
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: to care enough to fix the broken systems. And as

894
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: long as they don't, why sit there and bang our

895
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: fist up against a brick wall. It's not a ceiling,

896
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: it's a brick wall sometimes, you know. And you had

897
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: to also make peace with like what I got to

898
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: a certain level and in corporate my corporate American career. However,

899
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: along the way, I did feel like I made an impact,

900
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: just you know, hiring women of color. I made sure.

901
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: Secretly I was always plotting. I'm like, I'm going to

902
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 2: hire a woman of color be my number two because

903
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to be here for another

904
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: three years. And if I can leave here and say

905
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: that another woman of color took my spot and gets

906
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: to benefit from the negotiations. I had the clout, I

907
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: earned the clout, I fought for the respective for and

908
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: she gets to inherit that then, you know what, I'm

909
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: good with that, and you know, let the rest of

910
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: the let everyone else handle the rest. I did what

911
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: I could with the little bit of power that I had.

912
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: But I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that, TIF, Like,

913
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: do you feel like there's an argument there that we

914
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: should stick around just to see things through.

915
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like every fight is not for everybody,

916
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: and that there are some people who are uniquely qualified

917
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe to stick around. And it doesn't you know, in

918
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: order to create space for other women to come behind them,

919
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: for sure, but not at a detriment to your heart

920
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: and your soul and if it's breaking you. Some people

921
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: play the game well and enjoy that, like, you know,

922
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: come come get it, you know, like I look at

923
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: my friend Bosama, you know, from working at Endeavor to

924
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Papa John's, I mean, one of the most famous cmos

925
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: you know out there and every place that she went.

926
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: I know, people don't know.

927
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: Any other famous cmos. Maybe Cheryl Sandberg. No, she was

928
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: a COO yeah, yeah, you know, both of them made

929
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: it possible, like.

930
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: Yes, and so a lot of people had so much

931
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, she don't stay in one place,

932
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: but you don't see behind the scenes the people that

933
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: she brought in and brought with her intentionally, you know,

934
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: to be able to hear and talk to her personally,

935
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: to be like, girl, I made sure this. I made

936
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: sure that you don't know you know, and so. But

937
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: then after a while she said it's enough. My heart

938
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: and soul said it's enough. So you get to decide

939
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: if you are going to stay and you are going

940
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: to do the good work, you are going to fight

941
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: the fight. You also can decide I've done it, I've

942
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: done enough. I don't owe my heart and so I

943
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: don't owe my health, I don't owe my happiness and so.

944
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

945
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, you only you can decide if you

946
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: have it in you for the fight. And but there

947
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: are other ways to fight. Just remember that, like you know,

948
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Mandy and I are fighting the fight, good fight. On

949
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: the outside. I like to think about Amanda. Do you

950
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: ever see like The Lord of the Rings or any

951
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: of those movies where yes, there's a different plot that

952
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: we've both seen, like that there's all these different plot lines.

953
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, like the Wizards had to do

954
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: this fight, and then the the what are the little

955
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: known things on the Oh no, like yeah, the L's

956
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: had to fight this fight. But then like Bilbo Baggins,

957
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: like no, it's true. Like so they're like basically there's

958
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: like three or four different storylines fighting the fight, and

959
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: then it converges at the end. And so just know

960
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: that you don't have to be in every storyline.

961
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 4: That you could stick right in your lane.

962
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: And if you once you get to your place, I

963
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: promise you your sisters in corporate, you go see them.

964
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: You will converge.

965
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: Your sisters in in you know, social work, you'll see them.

966
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Your sisters also in entrepreneurship, you'll see them. So if

967
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: we all are in our lanes where we excel and

968
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: fight that fight there we can converge to create something

969
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: more powerful. It's okay not to fight and necessary not

970
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: to fight in every fight, but.

971
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: There's a difference between choosing to be there for the

972
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: fight and being forced to. And because you do have

973
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: no other options, give yourself options. I feel like it's

974
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: the key takeaway. Stack your coins so you can hit

975
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: that eject button your damn self when you're ready, or

976
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: so that if someone does it before you're ready, that

977
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: they didn't catch you slipping. That you have something, you

978
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: have an emergency shoot because you built it yourself. You know,

979
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: that's what it's all about. And then find community and

980
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: others like Brown Ambition, Mandy money Makers, dream Catchers where

981
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: you can feel like, Okay, I don't have to stay

982
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: because like, there are so many badasses out there who

983
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: are fighting the good fight or have chosen to go

984
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: and you're being in a vacuum. It makes you feel

985
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: like but I'm the only one who can know. There's

986
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: so many more of us.

987
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: Out, so many more.

988
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: That's actually go to my Brown Boost. I have a

989
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: gift for y'all, So stay aroun for Brown Boost promers.

990
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: We're gonnak a break in a minute. But yeah, so

991
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: I got a gift for you to start the new

992
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: year off. Okay, I love that.

993
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: I would love to take a break. And that was

994
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: Brown Ambition, a buzz worthy little holy but goodie. I

995
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: just think we should continue doing that.

996
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 1: That was no I think so too.

997
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, be back in a minute, ba fam,

998
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: and we're back in black and Brown. Yes, I know right,

999
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: I felt the harm. Did you see the Color Purple?

1000
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: No?

1001
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: I need to girl, I just honestly, I want to go,

1002
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: like on a Wednesday night and no one's there, just

1003
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: so I can watch it without you know. I love

1004
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: my people, but sometimes we do a lot when we

1005
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: watch movies.

1006
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 2: I haven't I would, I have not seen it. I'm

1007
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 2: so mad. Here's my confession, real quick. I know we're

1008
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: going to do bron boos. I want to hear the song. However,

1009
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: my confession is that I saw the Taylor Swift Eras

1010
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: concert movie before Renaissance. Do you want to know why?

1011
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 2: Because that shit's available on streaming And Beyonce, I did

1012
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 2: see your show live and I yes, and it will

1013
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: forever be a car memory. That's one of the best

1014
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: days of my life. Five top five. But I it's

1015
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: so hard to get out to a movie theater. Now

1016
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 2: that I've got daycare, I get to go like, you know,

1017
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: the eleven thirty showing on a weekday. That's when I thrive. Yeah, so,

1018
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: Color Purple, I'm coming for you, Renaissance. If you're still

1019
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 2: in theaters, I don't know. I'm gonna come for you too, right,

1020
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm not so mad.

1021
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't see because I haven't seen Renaissance, but because

1022
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: I was, like girl, we was in club Renaissance on

1023
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: the floor, damn Near and Beyonce.

1024
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, the Eras concertory is great. She's a great,

1025
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: great gal. I love it. I'm a swiftye. I don't mind.

1026
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: I think I've Why should it be something you confess?

1027
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, Taylor Swift. I see her early stuff like we

1028
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: were a bothy.

1029
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: She writes her way out of every fucking chapter. She

1030
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: is a pat like when you when you want inspiration

1031
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: to be creative and create art and no one can,

1032
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: no matter what. If you're creating your own art and

1033
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: you own that shit, you're unstoppable. That's what I love

1034
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: about day Yeah, I call.

1035
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: It well, I call it so Mike. Can I do?

1036
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: Go first?

1037
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: From Brown Break Brown Booth?

1038
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: Are you gonna sing us in? We didn't get to

1039
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: do the little intro? How does it go?

1040
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 4: How does it go?

1041
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: I know?

1042
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1043
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 2: Day Breaker, Booster, Oh.

1044
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: Now it's time to booster breaker, Booster Baker, Booster breaker boost.

1045
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: Are you gonna boost? Are you going to wait? What

1046
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna do?

1047
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: What you gonna do?

1048
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 4: Is that a Stanley cup.

1049
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: First of all, I am such a basic bitch. No,

1050
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: it's not my sister. The one. One of the fun

1051
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: memories from Christmas is like the kitchen counter at my

1052
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: brother's house was like a sea of Stanley's because my mom.

1053
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Y'all know, I'm half white, okay, and I love This

1054
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: is not a Stanley. My sister got this for me though,

1055
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: because I tease her about her Stanley all the time.

1056
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 2: But there was so many Stanley's. This is a brumante.

1057
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: And you know why, I think that's what it's called.

1058
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: It's probably called the brumand but I just tried to

1059
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: make it fancy brew matte. She got me. That's because look,

1060
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't spill, and the because my ship gets knocked over,

1061
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: the child will always come, you know, and just like

1062
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: help me put it on the floor because that's what

1063
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: they think I want. Yeah, I don't know where she

1064
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: got it, but thank you, Mallory. And also, way, one

1065
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: more thing, this is not my boos, but one more thing. Okay,

1066
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: you guys see the hair.

1067
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, how'd you straighten?

1068
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: It's so silly. Please one of those.

1069
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: My sister Lisa has one of those does.

1070
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: It really work? Well, you're looking at the product, so

1071
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: you an one of these. Really, this is like and

1072
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: it's not even the Big Lots version mine. It looks

1073
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: like a sex toy, doesn't it. It kind of gives

1074
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: me like dil Yes, if you a dildo and a

1075
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: shop back had a baby, that would be the red Air.

1076
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: This is what I'm holding up for those who can't see.

1077
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: It's a Revair okay, which I'm sure you've seen on

1078
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: your Instagram feed or TikTok feed. It's hilarious. My daddy

1079
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 2: got me that.

1080
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: I told him that a long time to do it this.

1081
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: It took about an hour to do like yeah, and

1082
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: that's after I did it once. It took like an

1083
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: hour and a half because I was so like, so awkward.

1084
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: It's so I'll give my review. I'm not telling anyone

1085
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: to go out and buy it. I did not buy it.

1086
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: I told my dad I wanted it as a joke

1087
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: for my birthday. I was like, yeah, I want this

1088
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: rev Air thing, Dad, and it's almost like he was like, okay,

1089
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: challenge accepted. So I got it as a Christmas gift.

1090
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: So that was very thoughtful and it was so funny.

1091
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: Because like my dad growing up, it would be the

1092
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: Big Lots version of whatever I wanted. No, I'm serious,

1093
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: I wanted the Adidas that have the three stripes. He's like,

1094
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: Big Lots has an Adida's looking type vessel for your feet.

1095
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: I want the new Mary J. Blige and Alicia Keys album.

1096
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: Here you go. Oh, don't mind that, it's you know,

1097
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: bootleg from the guy at the corner store, like he

1098
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: was always. He was a man who liked to save

1099
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: a buck. But he got me the real red there.

1100
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: And no, don't go by it. It's not that it

1101
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: doesn't do anything more than a hair dry doesn't. It's

1102
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 2: so heavy and so awkward, and yeah, I'm not I

1103
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: will use it just because now I will just think

1104
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 2: about my dad each time. But it's ridiculous, it's so silly.

1105
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: Don't buy it, all right, continue we Oh?

1106
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: I so actually maybe I think this is like this

1107
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: is so I'm doing the Liverature Challenge again this year.

1108
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: We usually start the first week of January, but girl,

1109
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 4: it was January.

1110
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so I decided and said that the new

1111
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Literature Challenge is starting next week January fifteenth. So this

1112
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: is the first challenge that Mandy and I actually did

1113
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: together when you were working with Nick over there at

1114
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Credit sessiit. He was, no, why are we mane Magnified

1115
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: Money because they sponsored it was your first one though, No,

1116
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: but first one that I like you and I kind

1117
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: of partnered.

1118
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: Yes.

1119
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: Yes, And so it's the Literature Challenge Credit Edition. And

1120
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: so the way the Literature Challenges work it's that they're

1121
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: twenty two days, so they're three weeks, and every week

1122
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: we have a focus that has a credit theme. So

1123
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: last year's theme was savings. This year's theme is credit.

1124
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: So Week one is all about like what is credit?

1125
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: How do you accumulate it?

1126
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: What?

1127
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: Like what makes credit up? Week two is all about

1128
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: how do I raise my credit score? And Week three

1129
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: is all about maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, And we're doing it

1130
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: live together, so that means January fifteenth, we already have

1131
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand people signed up, So you ain't going

1132
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: to be a Holy Sugar yes, and so you're not

1133
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: going to be alone and we're going to do a

1134
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: live So for the first time, we used to let

1135
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: people sign up whenever, but it got to be too

1136
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: confusing and with this many people, now we're doing it

1137
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: as a cohort. So we're starting on the fifteenth and

1138
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: it ends on the fifth, I believe of February, so

1139
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: you only have until January fourteenth to sign up. After that,

1140
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the site and it's gonna tell

1141
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: you can't sign up because you can't and until this

1142
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: cohort is done, and then we'll reopen it up again

1143
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: for the next cohort.

1144
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: So you have until.

1145
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: January fourteenth, midnight Eastern Standard time to sign up. It's

1146
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: totally free, it's always been free. You're gonna go to

1147
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: l RC for Literature Challenge LRC credit dot com. Like

1148
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: I said, it's totally free. It's twenty two days. It's

1149
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. When you sign up, you're gonna

1150
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: we'll invite you to like a group, like a community group,

1151
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: or we'll all work on it together. Every week I

1152
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: go live to answer questions and offer encouragement. Honestly, it's

1153
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: a really good time. It's just that No, it's not,

1154
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: it's just that anything. I'm just like, I just know

1155
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: that credit is one of the things that holds people back,

1156
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: and so I wanted to do the credit edition this year.

1157
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: And so yeah, just you know, anybody's free to join.

1158
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a woman, you don't have

1159
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: to be a black woman.

1160
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: It could be anyone.

1161
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: It's totally free l RC credit dot Com, but you

1162
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: only have until January fourteenth midnight to sign up.

1163
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 4: You get a starter kit right away.

1164
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: And you, guys, see the damn thing with your freebies.

1165
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: It's not like you know, it's not like you get

1166
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: what you pay for. You get so much more. I

1167
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 2: know what I tell you.

1168
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: For low key, we have announced it's any place else,

1169
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: but we created an app, our first app. You are

1170
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: really are happy.

1171
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 4: I'm now it looks so damn good. It's called money Match.

1172
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: I know it's not.

1173
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: Good, I mean and all like honestly, it's just I'm

1174
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: really excited because it's just we have taken it to

1175
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: the next level. And so yeah, so LRC credit dot

1176
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: Com and BTE whoever you want do not do it alone.

1177
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: If you don't have anyone to do it with, that's

1178
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: okay because there's already three hundred thousand people.

1179
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: You can do it with.

1180
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: And I'll remind you when we do our Friday, you know,

1181
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: be b a q A, I'll remind you again. But

1182
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, I just wanted to invite every one because

1183
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: I want us to start the year off strong, you know,

1184
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: with the tools and resources you need for success, and

1185
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: credit is one of them.

1186
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

1187
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: Maybe not we have We'll put the link in the

1188
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: show notes so I won't forget I don't let me

1189
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: forget any money.

1190
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 4: Let's put the link LRC credit. Yeah.

1191
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that I have daycare childcare, maybe I'll do

1192
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: a challenge too. I would love to do a challenge

1193
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 2: around like pivoting, because I've done surveys of my community

1194
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: and the number one goal of people is not just

1195
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: to get a new job, is to pivot into a

1196
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: different field. Okay, and that's my favorite. That's my favorite

1197
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: kind of person to coach because it's one of the

1198
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: scariest things you need to coach, because pivoting is so scary.

1199
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's hard. I mean it is, obviously,

1200
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: it takes effort, but the hardest part is just doing

1201
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: it and giving yourself permission. All right, So excited for

1202
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: you and this decade long? How long have you been

1203
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: doing the liverature challenge? Is it been a decade?

1204
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: I think the first one I did one. I want

1205
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: to say two, yeah, twenty twenty three or twenty four,

1206
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: so almost ten years.

1207
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean thirteen four team, but yes, yeah, yeah.

1208
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. But yeah almost. I mean we

1209
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: definitely had some years that we skip, like you know,

1210
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: the pandemic, because we were like, yeah, anybody do nothing,

1211
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I think that. Yeah, it's been just

1212
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: about ten years, and I'm really excited because we've helped

1213
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: literally millions of people through the challenge and it just

1214
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: keeps getting better. And it's my it's my give back

1215
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: every year, you know, because I know my rules always

1216
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: you don't have to spend money with me in order

1217
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: to get financial.

1218
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 4: Help because I have other things.

1219
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: Certainly I have like books and things like that, and

1220
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: we make money that way, so but you know, I don't.

1221
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's my job to figure out

1222
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: how to make money, not your job. And so if

1223
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: you're needing help, I'm always going to offer ways for

1224
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: you to get help or you don't have to worry

1225
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: about it. And so you know, come on down, bring

1226
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 1: your cousins and them. It's gonna be a good time.

1227
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: I love it, all right. I'm gonna do a boost too,

1228
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 2: because we're being optimistic I'm gonna do a couple. First

1229
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: boost is that I contributed to my solo for before

1230
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: the end of the year. I had a whole big

1231
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: lump sum excuse me, and I think I maxed out

1232
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: my portion. But I was just very proud of myself

1233
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: and last year I did not do that. And so

1234
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: if you have a solo four one k, like you

1235
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: have to you have to contribute by the December thirty

1236
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: first to have it count for that year. Now, I

1237
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: can still contribute to my step I Ray, which I

1238
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: did last year, but you can't contribute as much because

1239
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: with the solo four one K, it's like almost the

1240
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 2: same as I think it is the same as like

1241
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: if you worked for a corporation twenty two to five

1242
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, and then you can do a

1243
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 2: you know, like as your own employer, you can also

1244
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: match that. So anyway, I was very proud of myself

1245
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: and that I've you know gotten. I'm investing not with

1246
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: the same regular cadence as I was when I was

1247
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: nine to five, but I'm still doing it and.

1248
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 4: It's great.

1249
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: And thank you to my accountant, Safie for never making

1250
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: me feel as much of a shit show as I

1251
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: feel like I am with my taxes. She's always like

1252
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: helping me just realize, Hey, this is normal, You're good.

1253
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: You got me. She has my back. My other my

1254
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: big boost is that before the break, before the holidays,

1255
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 2: one of my you know, I have this village in

1256
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: my neighborhood, these women that have become just more than friends,

1257
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: just the people you call when you need someone and

1258
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: you need something and they're right here. We have this

1259
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: like little community of moms on my block and nearby

1260
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: one of them is she's a school teacher. Hey, Latania,

1261
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: love her. She works so damn hard. She works so hard.

1262
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how she has time to come up

1263
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: with ideas for like community events and things like that,

1264
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: but she does. And I'm usually the one who's like, Latania,

1265
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 2: anybody got time for that? I'm too tired. We have

1266
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: to do and I'm like a thing for every holiday.

1267
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: But she wanted to do like a holiday party for

1268
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: the moms in the neighborhood, and I was like, and

1269
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: I thought about it, and I said no, no, but yes,

1270
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 2: let's not do a holiday party because this is the

1271
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 2: most stressful time for moms. If you really liked women

1272
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: and moms in general, you would do Mother's Day like

1273
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: the week after the holidays, and you would give all

1274
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: the moms off a week and give us a spot

1275
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: day because the holidays are so much work and for Latania.

1276
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: So I was like, no, however, let's do a Mom's

1277
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: Night in in January. So I picked the twentieth and

1278
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm hosting about twenty moms here at my house and

1279
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not just hosting them. We're gonna do like a

1280
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: using those tiktoks. Latania I had to say yes to something,

1281
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: and she wanted us to do the boards like everyone

1282
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: does a different board, like you do the taco board,

1283
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: dessert board, it's charcuterie, but it's like different themes. You know,

1284
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: you do the blue board. Everything's got to be blue

1285
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: and anyway, So I said yes, and we're gonna wear

1286
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: nice jammies. We're probably gonna do a hot chocolate bar.

1287
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do oh Husban got me the best gift

1288
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: so maker, way too expensive, but the most I am.

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Speaker 2: So I love this man because this espresso maker is

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Speaker 2: so good. So I'm gonna have an espresso martini bar

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Speaker 2: for the girls who im vibe, and then a hot

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Speaker 2: chocolate bar goodie bags, because I goodie bags for everyone

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Speaker 2: and they're going to be good, Like I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: things we actually use in the goodie bags. I haven't

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Speaker 2: told anybody, but I'm basically treating it with the same

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Speaker 2: care that we give to like a four year old's party,

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Speaker 2: because if you know, four year old's party are expensive

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Speaker 2: and you got to invise people and you gotta do

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Speaker 2: goodie bags, and there has to be like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the right treats and the right decor. So I'm really

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Speaker 2: excited Mom's Night In is happening on the twentieth, so

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, I think it'll be a good time, and

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to put some effort into other moms and

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Speaker 2: not just the kids are great, but I think we

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Speaker 2: deserve Yeah, I know, we deserve.

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Speaker 1: That and a good, good, good goodie like you know,

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Speaker 1: I love that honestly. So we're back and we're black

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Speaker 1: for the new year. We would love to know, like,

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Speaker 1: what are kind of your your hope streams and wishes

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Speaker 1: for your twenty twenty four You can you can tweet us,

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Speaker 1: you can you know, hit us up on ig Barna

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Speaker 1: Vision podcast or the BA podcast on Twitter. We'd love

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Speaker 1: to know like, what are your what are you excited

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Speaker 1: about for the new year?

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Speaker 4: What do you need help with? Maybe you need us

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Speaker 4: to talk about something more, you know, And what's out?

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Speaker 2: That's the mean now, yes and hydration, smiling out, stressing right.

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Speaker 1: Hustle right, So yeah, we'd love to know until Friday.

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Speaker 1: We will see you on Friday for b a qaa.

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Speaker 2: So happy to be back me too.

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Speaker 4: All right, bye y'all,