1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: What have we here? Another episode How the City Is Silent? 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Protests are looming and they are congregating at the Mayor's 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: home in the Getty House near mid City. But the 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: mayor has decided to put blockades to value the lives 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: of plants instead of the un housed community that is 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: suffering from the criminalization and the harassment of the Los 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Angeles Police Department. Doctor Barbara Furrer has extended the sheltering 8 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: place orders in La County for three more months. We 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: also learned that the hotel industry has its own special 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: form a bid which is called Business Improvement District. They're 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: called Tourism Marketing District. Javier Kano is the vice president 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: and general manager of the Risk Carlton. If you remember 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: in the previous episodes, he is in concert with the 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: police officers to criminalize and arrest the protesters for hotel 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: Project Room Key. Here's another unknown fact. In six arrest 16 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: of a houseless person, one in three use of force 17 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: is with a houseless person. Did you know that Officer 18 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Frank Hernandez, the mayor, is held as a hero for 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: shooting another person. Would often ticket people for selling food 20 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: on the street and would throw food in the trash. 21 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Another point to hear. Eighty percent of Americans live in 22 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: poverty or near poverty pre coronavirus. How many live in 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: poverty now during the coronavirus. This is episode twenty three 24 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: of Winian House, and I'm going to take the time 25 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: to explain what's going on with the protests and there 26 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: is result of this, the mayor's tepid response and for 27 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: a house, people explibiting their constitution and the rights product. Yes, 28 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: my name is Ceo Henderson from Wiedi and House, and 29 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm here with an activist that spoke out on Mother's 30 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Day and I want to get her a perspective on 31 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: why she's out here with this protest. Yes, so I've 32 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: been fun Well, I'm a restaurant worker, so I've been 33 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: working for two months, so that means in for lest pachecks, 34 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: and so that means having to really ration the money 35 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: that we have and think about food and think about 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, other things little even simple things like laundry, 37 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: because then what are we going to you know, those 38 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: things that take care of us and take care of 39 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: ourselves with our home. And also I joined that's why 40 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I joined the rent strike. Why am i joining the movement. 41 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: It's because it's much bigger than we are. It's a whole. 42 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: It's our communities, our city, it's our families for future 43 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: generations to know that we have rights and we deserve 44 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: quality equality. We deserve equal rights, we deserve quality housing. 45 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: I have a question. I'm in house and I have 46 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: gone through this seems like this is stage I view 47 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: with a great recession, and I was wondering, like, for example, 48 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: I never visited vision that I would be on housed 49 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: as long does this come up into you guys mind? 50 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: What if it happened to be on this have to 51 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: be on the street. Yeah, so me and myself, I 52 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: had to move out of my house when I was nineteen. 53 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Right now I'm twenty four. So I've lived in like 54 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: six different houses and like four different cities throughout LA 55 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: So that that has definitely crossed my mind to think 56 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: that we're I'm living patriots to patriock as it is, 57 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: so thinking of you know, we can be all we're 58 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: all susceptible to that to be in that condition, and 59 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: I've thought about it, and so also thinking that it's 60 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: with all the money that our city has, it's not right. 61 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: It's at all. We have all these people living in 62 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: this in this big houses of all these people with 63 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: all this money, so us working people that you know 64 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that are living patricks to picture and living to survive. 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: I think that no one should be in the streets 66 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: because you know, we're just working to live. And so 67 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: it's also we all deserve better, we all deserve a home, 68 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: We'll deserve a but to sleep on. One of the 69 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: things I wanted to I didn't get your name? What's 70 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: your name? Definitely. One of the things also that I 71 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: noticed is that when being in house, there's a lot 72 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: of challenges that is very different than being in a house. Also, 73 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: the access of using the services from the city, like 74 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: the police and things like that that may have helped 75 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: you if you had a house becomes completely different when 76 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: they call the police on you. How do you think 77 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: that that would be? Do you think that could be 78 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: changed when being on that street? So I think if 79 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm just sending here a question, right, I hope I am. 80 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: I know I understand that police as it is already 81 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: criminalizes people living in the street, even us as people 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: usually tend to have the stereotypes and our instigma of like, 83 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: oh no, you know, like walk away for people that 84 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: are living in the streets. And so I think that 85 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: I think that we totally need to We need a 86 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: different form of system of justice. And I don't think 87 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: that the police is doing its job. I feel if 88 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: anything is even criminalizing killing, more people are living in 89 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the streets. So I think that I don't know if 90 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the police exactly can change the way they work, but 91 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: I think that we as people can definitely ask for 92 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: a different type of system that doesn't criminalize people. As 93 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: a taxpayer, we have the power to make sure that 94 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: they do do their job instead of being selectively enforcing. 95 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Frank Hernandez is a police officer that beat an unhoused person. 96 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: And this is one of the concerns we have, is 97 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: because as soon as you cross outside of the comforts 98 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: of a house, now you open to any kind of treatment. 99 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: And we of a society have to do something about 100 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: that because we have to hold them accountable. They have 101 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: to go to jail, and all of a sudden, these missions, 102 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: all these pictures of good police officers, but they remain 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: decidedly Silent's as if they are secretly in agreement with 104 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: that kind of treatment. It should be so uncomfortable that 105 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: something like a Frank Hernandez does something like that. They 106 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: should be just ran out on a rail immediately. And 107 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I noticed when the incident was happening, the police officers 108 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: just stood there and allowed them to violate and criminalize attack. 109 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: If I had did that to a police officer, you 110 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: better believe I'd have been in jail. If I had 111 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: did that to anybody else, you better believe we would 112 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: be not having this conversation. But why is it that 113 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: they get so coddled and so revered when they do 114 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: criminal acts. I don't understand it. That sounds like a 115 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: mafia and it should be torn. Is there anything else 116 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: you would like to tell the art Well, I want 117 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: to say in verse what you said, thank you for 118 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: saying that, because you know what I answered was like, oh, 119 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you're right, And I think that 120 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: we need to understand that a lot of our communities 121 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: sometimes afraid of the police. Sometimes, you know, we think 122 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: that having police in our communities is safer, but in 123 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: reality they're just politting. And so I think, thank you 124 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: for saying that, because yes, I think at this point 125 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: out that I'm getting more involved. I'm understanding that we 126 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: do have to demand more. We do have to demand respect, 127 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: we do have to them and humanity. So I think 128 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: that just coming out here and being more involved, me 129 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: and myself, I'm barely getting involved, So just knowing what 130 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: we can do and demanding that we're treated with respect 131 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: and humanity any other what I I guess I would 132 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: like to add that for people to understand that this 133 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: is a human right, that this is a human crisis, 134 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and that we're not alone. And I didn't know this 135 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: as much as I started digging a little more, started 136 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: to realize that there's a whole community of people that 137 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 1: are fighting out here like you, like other people, for people, 138 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: for people that might not even be aware of it. 139 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: So we're not alone. We have community learning about our rights, 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: hearing about our local units and being involved. Thank you 141 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: very much, just the Theo Henderson Frother, we in the house. 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: If you can't fight for the word freedom, take the 143 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: word out of your mouth. I hope we again meet 144 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: in the life of understanding. Thank you, definitely. Yeah, I'm 145 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: here to mispec gus deal goods and businesses. You still 146 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: gottat resources uff for little so feel there. That's work 147 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: this day let's go. Yeah, gonna come out here and 148 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: talk to us too, because you go, we're gonna go forever. Yes, 149 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: did you go about you and talk talking about it? 150 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: We're gonna go put ye ain't talking that he be 151 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: talking about, right, he know he gotta keep the real 152 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: with us, right because he already knows right that that 153 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: he's a coward. And for the last sixteen years, right, 154 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: this man so not so here it is and here 155 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: this is here it is a mayor. I mean for 156 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: two times he's been a city council president. That's eight years, 157 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: it's like, and then this is the second term as mayor. 158 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: That's like sixteen years going on. This man has been 159 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: in a position of power and seeing what I'm saying, like, 160 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: look around the state of the city. What do we 161 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: see right now? We see lak he didn't hear after year, right, 162 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: continue to lead the nation and shooting one on people 163 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: of coach, particular black people, in particular, homeless people. Right, 164 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: he ain't gonna come out here and talk about that. 165 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: You see heaven year, we see the hatst crisis is 166 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: going up and up and up. La leaves the nations 167 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: at homes like he ain't gonna come out here and 168 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: talk about our billion dollars that we gave it. Where's 169 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: out for forty five years of houses in our worst 170 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: the whole years. You don't want to come out here 171 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: and talk about that, none of that. He ain't gonna 172 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: come out here and talk about incarceration. How la continue 173 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: to these nations in incarceration? Right? And all this is 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: going down on his watch. But oh, it's gonna be 175 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: sixteen years when this cat's finally through and all this. 176 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: The last fourteen years have been nothing but criminalization for us, right, 177 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: So today it's time for us to stand up and 178 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: say no more, no more. This cat has got to 179 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: go right, And basically it's been us because we allowed 180 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: this guy to come out here and treat us like 181 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: this and talk like this, because the business people witn't 182 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: to wait for this for the last fourteen You just 183 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: think that'll let this guy bring that businesses down the 184 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: last fourteen years? Hey or no, he'd been out this 185 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: building right here, right, and we should have been done. 186 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: Snatched him, snatched him out of his house, his marriage master, 187 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: and ran him down the street. Get the hell out 188 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: of here. You ain't out married no more. We get 189 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Adam with somebody to be the mayor or Victoria, anybody 190 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: be the marriage because bops out here. You come out 191 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: here because you got that done, You got the love 192 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: in your heart, you got you got that. You want 193 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: to do something, You want to get involved, you want 194 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: to help the people. That's why people is out here 195 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock in the morning on Mothers Day to 196 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: do something because we fed up. Right. But now I'm 197 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, we allowed this guy to be out 198 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: here and to do this stuff. So it's gonna take 199 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: us to stop it. When he come out here. It's 200 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna take us to shut it down. We gotta shut 201 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: down the city. So that means today you come out here, 202 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: but you need to get involved. We need to join 203 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: some mark and I says you need to join LA 204 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: can join DUSA, join the Olympics, join something right because 205 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: by you joining one of them groups, you join us 206 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: all because we all in the same game together, and 207 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: we all in the same fight together, right to liberate ourselves, 208 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: to liberate La, free La. Right. And so that's what 209 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: it is today. Not only when we get involved in 210 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: this organizations, we gotta start coming down. We gotta start 211 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: shutting it down because we die. It's three a day. 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Three homeless people are dying a day in this city, 213 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: right and if it's anybody else, three a day was dying. 214 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: They've been us. Shut it down, just like they shut 215 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: it down for the COVID vider. They have to shut 216 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: it down for this. They declare a national yet free 217 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: in the National Guards. Anything flying in coming in to 218 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: save the city, put it on lockdown. But when it's 219 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: us that's died, they don't give it down. So it's 220 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna take us to save us. It's gonna take us 221 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: to come down here and shut it down. When he 222 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: come out of there, when he can shut his hands down, 223 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: we have to shut down the whole city. It's gonna 224 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: take us to do that. All power to the people. 225 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Un Housed News. The coronavirus has not only spread to 226 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Andy Bell's Union Rescue Mission, but the Los Angeles Mission 227 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: has been affected, the Midnight Mission and the Line Guard Center. 228 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: Fourteen residents have COVID nineteen at the Los Angeles Mission, 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: four at the Midnight and at the White Guard, and 230 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: one hundred at the Union Rescue Mission, which Andy Bells 231 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: is the founder. You also know that Andy Bells has 232 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,479 Speaker 1: had the ear of President Trump and marbart In creating 233 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: a shelter like facility for unhoused people akin to concentration gaps. 234 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: In other news, Raper City, South Dakota has transformed the 235 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Civic Citdent Rushmore Hall into an emergency shelter for the ill. 236 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Houseless rats are a common problem for house and unhoused, 237 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: but here is a new problem that they present. Rats 238 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: are infecting people with hepatitis and doctors are clueless to 239 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: how a unhoused family were robbed and the six year 240 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: old daughter was stabbed in the stomach. The unhoused sleep 241 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: in a packed shelter and on stairways, on floors, threatened 242 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: with handcuffs or mental war in Bellevue, New York. And 243 00:13:48,240 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: this is unhoused news. Good afternoon. This is Henderson from 244 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Street Watch Chinatown. I mean here at the UCLA Law 245 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: School interviewing Jacob Woocher. Jacob Woocher has been instrumental and 246 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: invited me here to speak on a panel today, so 247 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: let's welcome him and get a little information about him. Here. Hey, 248 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: my name is Jacob. I'm a second year law student 249 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: at UCLA and I organized with the Los Angeles Tennants Union. 250 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: So what was your AHA moment in order to help 251 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: with the tenants or into social justice, because when people 252 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: hear lawyers, they always think of big Wall Street firms 253 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: or big high heavy, heavy hitters. So what got you 254 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: into social justice? Well, I was pretty lucky to be 255 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: involved with the tenants movement before I already started law school, 256 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: so then coming in I kind of had some direction 257 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: towards what I wanted to do. And we recently started 258 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: a group called the Tenants Law Association at UCLA Law, 259 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: which is a student org. I think because we all 260 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: realize that there's a lot of real estate law happening 261 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: at the law school. There's a lot of classes and 262 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: organizations that exist at the law school devoted to treating 263 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: housing as a commodity and buying and selling housing and 264 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: making a profit off of it, but there are pretty 265 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: much no classes or organizations about tenant law, which is 266 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: like trying to keep people in their homes or thinking 267 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: about how the law privileges landlords over tenants. So we 268 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: started the Tenants Law Organization to try to counter some 269 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: of that and push for more classes on this stuff 270 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: and bring in people like you THEO and other organizers 271 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: out there who are like fighting these battles on the 272 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: ground and trying to hold you all up as experts, 273 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: because you know that's not something that often happens at 274 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: the law school. It's very corporate oriented, it's very white dominated, 275 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: it's a very elite space. So we're trying to counter 276 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: some of that and bring more of the Master's movement 277 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: knowledge to the law school. Thank you for inviting me again. 278 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the domino effect. Where you have a 279 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: tenant that's in a house that is about to be evicted. 280 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: The person becomes evicted, it has limited resources and needs 281 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: put on the street. He's put on in the street. 282 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Now he's a quality of life concern. The person that's 283 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: lived here for ten to fifteen years is looked on 284 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: as an eye sort. They lobby very local business improvement district, 285 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: the council members and police to work together to get 286 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: them out. So you see, being none house has different layers, 287 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: and this is one of the layers. Do you concur Yeah, totally. 288 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important way to think about it. 289 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Number One, it's connecting the number of people living on 290 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the street without shelter to the fact that rents are 291 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: so high, Like this didn't come from nowhere. This crisis. 292 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: People are being pushed out of their homes by the 293 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: greed of landlords who raise rents, and it has to 294 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: do with a lack of rent control. Like in La 295 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: our rent control is pretty weak because landlords can raise 296 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: the rents between tenants, so that incentivizes them to evict 297 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: people so they can then raise the rent. And also 298 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: it only covers buildings built before nineteen seventy nine. Also 299 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: we have to think about the city officials and the 300 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: politicians who work with developers to subsidize like luxury development 301 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: and raise prices and just basically like work really hard 302 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: to make a city for the rich where property values 303 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: and rents are as high as possible. That has to 304 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: be connected to the to the number of people live 305 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: in without shelter. And then those same forces then work 306 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: to criminalize and harass people in their own neighborhoods, like 307 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: you said, like it's like a quote unquote quality of 308 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: life concern or like it's an isore or whatever. And 309 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: instead of treating people like humans, we're really looking after 310 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: the profits of property owners. Like join the swan who 311 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: was just on this panel that we had put it 312 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: really well where she is like the criminalization strategies put 313 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: profits over people because that's really what they're concerned about, 314 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: which is the property values and also making life as 315 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: comfortable as possible for rich people to live in the city. 316 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: And it's yeah, I really like the domino effects because 317 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: it links these things that people don't always link together, 318 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: but it's really important to do. One other thing that's 319 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: a link is the common effect. People that are engaging 320 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: in these quality or life concerns, they fashion themselves off 321 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: as thinking they are good people. They are only concerned 322 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: about the safety of their children or going to work 323 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: and the things that nature And how do you think 324 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: that the city has a hand or plays into that. 325 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: The city is involved in every step of the way. 326 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: And it really is like they make it out as 327 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: if they're concerned with the health of the people sleeping 328 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: on the street and also the people who do have 329 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: housing living near them, and you know, they paint people 330 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: living on the street as like dangerous and stuff. But 331 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm way more concerned about cops killing people then and 332 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: on house person. I mean, the numbers bear that out. 333 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: And you have people like or politicians like Mitchell Ferrell, 334 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: who's the city council member for like Echo Park and Westlake, 335 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: who is super involved in criminalizing people and is pushing 336 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: these really reactionary and hateful laws that criminalize people just 337 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: living on the street trying to survive. And then we'll 338 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: turn around and tell you, you know, oh, we're not 339 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: doing homeless sweeps like they're cleanups and we're just trying 340 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: to help people, when in reality they're just working for 341 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: the property owners and not just property owners, but I 342 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: guess wealthy renters to who just don't want to have 343 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: to deal with the poverty around them. So the city 344 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: is absolutely a crucial actor. And you know, I always 345 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: tell people like Los Angeles' official response to the homelessness 346 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: is criminalization and incarceration. It's not to provide housing. Anything 347 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: we do is criminalize people and put them in jail. 348 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: One thing in the panel today that I noticed that 349 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: there was a packed room and people were coming in 350 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: and they seem genuinely moved and wanting to do something. 351 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: And I know that we're not alone as time is 352 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: going on. Many of these people are very educated, Like 353 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: for myself, I'm educated and I became un housed. And 354 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: there's other people with all sorts of challenges and they 355 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: really want to do something, and one of the biggest 356 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: myths is that the police are good people, the city 357 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: has their interests at heart, and it's very difficult for 358 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: them to reconcile that that's not the case. What do 359 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: you say to them in order to get them out 360 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: of that fairy tale? I think it's such a good question. 361 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you THEO on the panel said, someone asked 362 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: about you know, this like supposedly quote unquote benevolent policing 363 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: model that they've been seeing, and THEO you were like, 364 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: there is no benevolent policing, Like, there's no benevolence when 365 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: you have a gun and a night stick and you're 366 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: in my face with that. I think people are just conditioned, 367 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: through the media and through everything we learn growing up 368 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: to think of the police as the good guys, the 369 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: state as the good guy who protects us from the 370 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: bad guys, and we really need to unlearn that stuff 371 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: and push through the propaganda and look at the role 372 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: that the police and that those in power have always played, 373 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: which is violently suppressing those who are a threat to 374 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: the capitalist and white supremacist order. Honestly, and it's hard, 375 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: Like at the law school, I think most people I 376 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I have a friend who used to tell me, like, 377 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: people go to law school because they love the rules. 378 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know a lot of people, so it's hard 379 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: to push through at the law school. But I think 380 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: there is a good community here who are kind of 381 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: waking up and are listening to those like we always 382 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: say that those closest to the problem are closest to 383 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: the solution, and those narratives are really hard to dispel. 384 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: But the work that you're doing, and then the organizers 385 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: across the city are doing, is really important because only, 386 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: in my opinion, only a mass movement can can work 387 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: against all the power structures that are in place. And 388 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: then what people can do I think. I mean, I 389 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: always try to tell my old law students, like we 390 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: should get involved, Like you don't have to wait till 391 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: you're a lawyer to get involved in the organizing. I 392 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: spend a huge amount of my time organizing with the 393 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Tenants Union. I used to be more involved 394 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: with street Watch LA and monitoring sweeps on the Venice 395 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: board Walk that happened every single Friday, and that has 396 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: I've learned more from that work than I have from 397 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: law school. To be totally honest, but it's really hard 398 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: to get law students out of the classroom and into 399 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: the organizing, into the communities. But that's what we're trying 400 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: to do here with the Tenants Law Association at least. 401 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: So hopefully if you know, when we bring in speakers 402 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: like you, THEO, like other like Joanna, like Jane, who 403 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: are involved in the organizing, then hopefully it will move 404 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: more people to action, because like, there's no reason you 405 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: can't be a law student and also an organizer. I agree. 406 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of reticence in trying to 407 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: step out of your comfort zone because of the propaganet 408 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: that we're faced. For example, when people see unhoused people, 409 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: they are assaulted, for example with the news about the 410 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: mentally ill gentleman that through diarrhea on a lady there. 411 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: When you have those kind of images pushed all the time, 412 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: you's very difficult. You believe your safety is concerned. So 413 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: based on your experience, have you had any challenges with 414 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: unhoused that like fad or what would you what would 415 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: you say? That's interesting? I mean, there is such a 416 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: powerful narrative that's pushed all the time, Like in the 417 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: local news and the national news that on house people 418 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: are dangerous. I think it's just so racist and so hateful. 419 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: And it's like the same way that you know, these 420 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: racist tropes against like welfare queens were used in the 421 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties by the right wing and including the Democrats, 422 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: Like let's not forget that Bill Clinton was the one 423 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: who did welfare. These racist ideas were used to make 424 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: us hate the most vulnerable people. And like there's a 425 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: a Malcolm X quote, what is it. It's like, if 426 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: you listen to the media long enough, they'll have you 427 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: hating the oppressed and loving the oppressors. And I think 428 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: that's a really good one for me. I mean, I 429 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: grew up in la like in the on the West Side, 430 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: like mostly white homeowner area, and it's just homeless is 431 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: so visible. It's like you can't you can't escape it, 432 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: and it's so racialized. Like the black community in particulars 433 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: is so much more affected by this, and those narratives 434 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: are so harmful when like we really need to be 435 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: treating housing as a human right and having more empathy 436 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: for people living on the street. And you know, it's 437 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 1: due to the structural issues in the economy and in 438 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: our politics, is not like a there's this narrative that 439 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: it is like an individual failure, and it's just such, 440 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: it's so harmful and it really makes people's makes people's 441 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: lives terrible. So where do you see yourself in the 442 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: struggle five years from now? Five years from now, I'll 443 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: probably be working as an eviction defense lawyer. Like that's 444 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: really what I'm I'm gearing myself towards, like we talked 445 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: about earlier, Like people don't just magically become end up 446 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: sleeping on the street, like people are evicted. So I 447 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: feel like my role can be keeping people in their 448 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: homes through the court system. And like the law is 449 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: extremely limited. That's something I always have to keep in 450 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: mind that the law can only get us so far. 451 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: So the key is to build the movements, the grassroots power. 452 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: So somehow I've got to figure out how to combine 453 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: direct services in terms of eviction prevention, like defending people 454 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: in court when their landlords are trying to evict them. 455 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: Combine that with the movement work, which is the real 456 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: source of power, and really how we're going to provide 457 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: a positive vision and make things better or even changing 458 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: or creating new laws because we are a lawyer. So 459 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: this is the point what I'm trying to allude to 460 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: with all of us, the ones, the last students that 461 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: are out here listening, that you too can make a difference. 462 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: And if you're not a law student, you can still 463 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: make a difference. You can go and just take it, 464 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: join the organizations and look for yourself. At the information 465 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: that's on my support page, THEO Henderson Support Committee, you 466 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: can see all of these stories, the backgrounds, and this 467 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: podcast itself. I want to also end this thing by 468 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: saying that to do nothing means that you are in agreement. 469 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: Silence is the answer. Whether you really want to do 470 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: the right thing, but you choose not to, that's useless. 471 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I want to thank our 472 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: listeners for listening again, maybe we again meet in the 473 00:26:46,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: light of understanding. My name is Lucer Sanchez. I am 474 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: a member of the La Tenant Union. We came out 475 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: here today in South Central supporting one of our own 476 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: community members. He was being evicted earlier today. He was 477 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: safety's threatned harassment from his landlord JJ put out uh. 478 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: He sent out a letter to his landlord right letting 479 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: them know that he couldn't pay rent, and he did 480 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: as he's supposed to according to the executive orders now 481 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: in place, and yet landlord said they didn't care JJ, 482 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, could a stay in his house. And so 483 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: community members showed up and we were able to put 484 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: pressure on the landlord and LAPD because they were here 485 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: assisting with the illegal eviction. We put pressure on them 486 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: and thankfully JJ is now able to stay inside his home. 487 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: But it took a whole community effort to do that 488 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: because the landlords know that what they were doing was 489 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: all locked. During COVID nineteen, we've seen an uptick in 490 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: folks that are unable to pay rent that Los Angeles 491 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Tenantinion is organizing that campaign. We aren't striking right now 492 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: for folks that aren't able to pay rent, they can't 493 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: pay it right and so they can't be evicted. For 494 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: folks that can't pay rent, we're telling you don't pay rent. 495 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: Let's send in solidarity with our neighbors, because with more 496 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: of us on strike, it's a stronger message. It sends 497 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: a stronger message to vote in charge because they have 498 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: a power to pass rank cancelation. So we need to 499 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: put the pressure on them because those in our community 500 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: that are the most vulnerable, right, people that were struggling 501 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: already prior to COVID nineteen. They were leaving paycheck to 502 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: paycheck or just day by day. They aren't gonna have 503 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: two or three months worth of rent saved up to 504 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: pay in twelve months from now, and so that is 505 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: not enough. That is why the l Tenant Union is 506 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: advocating for rent cancelation because our most vulnerable ren now, 507 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: those who are not getting unemployment, no stimulous checks, no 508 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: benefits whatsoever. They don't know what they're gonna do. And 509 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: so when this all ends, they can do you efected. 510 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: So we're saying forms and let's support our names. The 511 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: first name and that things is uh Johnny j o Hn. 512 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: And what it was a situation category of things about 513 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: paying they said about the rent wives and things, you know, 514 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: the different words things I you know, I didn't have it, 515 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. My different is that I 516 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: was just taking work right here was where I was 517 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: going to get to. The management went to get it 518 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: situation straight out until my proper funds come you know. 519 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Then I couldn't sit back and took care of on 520 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: that mead. So now and things. You know, I set 521 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: back a couple of people set back kind of like 522 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: how you say, spoke up on on the whole situation category. 523 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, within the bit of you know, 524 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: communication and things. Yeah, decent respect to communication. You know. 525 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: I was just kind of hurt because they was talking about, 526 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, talking about just putting me out there, you know, 527 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: all my stuff. You know what I'm saying, I'll hit 528 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: on the street stuff. But they you know, I mean 529 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: it was a you know, but I don't want to. 530 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to another I'm really just 531 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: stay here, you know, right here at nine at nineteen 532 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: sixteen South Figure Road. You know what I'm saying, because 533 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of my you know, business and stuff was 534 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: mostly here, you know, did some other place see what 535 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and this this money. They supposed to sit 536 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: back and do a lot of things from the governor 537 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: wise and things to us the way, and I don't 538 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: want to sit back and put myself in situations category. 539 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: I'll be way over somewhere else. And then when then 540 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: when my personal first stuff comes through, you know as 541 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: legal paperwork and documents or whatever how or whenever, you know, 542 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying with all re respects and things, sourds 543 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: of way, respected, community, respective understanding, communication and things, sourds 544 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: of way and things like. You know, I don't listen 545 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: fort myself in situation category by by giving up, because 546 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: I almost did that today. No, uh, confidence, you know, 547 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: I kind of like try to hold on with my 548 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: confidence and faith. Confidence and faith. You know, I'm not 549 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: talking about faith. I ain't talking about that. I don't 550 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: about faith. Most of my blessings coming head you follow 551 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: up the bog you know what I'm saying, I come 552 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: my blessings every day. I don't call my blessings like 553 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: five days out of the way. I come my blessings 554 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: seven days out the way. That's what had me. That's 555 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: what hed me. Followed the bove say, and it's right 556 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: there in the Bible which says it. You know what 557 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, even beyond your enemies and things 558 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: towards the way, still set back to show them when 559 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: they say show the respective respective uh consideration of things 560 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: towards the way. Everyone understands what I'm saying. You know, 561 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: it's vic long, you know, uh, I mean my earlier 562 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm in my mid fifties. The things right now, I'm 563 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: not exactly to you know, fifty, I'm exactly I'm exactly 564 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: like in my in my early like middle fifties. You know, 565 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: I ain't got I ain't I ain't got up to 566 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: no sisters or seven not yet. You know. Well, it's 567 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: the best made problem club that I'm here still on earth, 568 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: you know. But I have been here to this silly 569 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: area of days for like two years. You know. I 570 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: came through here to dog eighteen. At the time, it 571 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: was different management. It wasn't the same man and everything 572 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: like now things like different now, you know, it done 573 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: turned over. It's done turned over two three jobs, you know. 574 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: And uh today was an acacist category. May may tow 575 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: us a way to speak on that be hell to 576 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: UH said, I can get everything sin way they're straightening out, Yeah, 577 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: because I didn't have it. You know, I didn't have it, 578 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I got my paperwork, I shoulder, 579 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, and it kind of like kind of hurt 580 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: me anything because that was something that I'm not used to, 581 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I take care my rent 582 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: everywhere every day. I mean, you know, I take care 583 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: of my rent like every month. You know, but I 584 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: scuffle every month too. You know what I'm saying. I 585 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: put in, you know, work from different places, different times, 586 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: and did things like that. Tak to have a little 587 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 1: bit of money and things in my pocket, you know 588 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But other than that and thing, it 589 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: comes down to my rent tow us when things, you know, 590 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I want to make sure my rent is paid all 591 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: the way. You know what I'm saying. I don't want 592 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: to just give some some or certain set them out 593 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: at this time, day and time, and then all of 594 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: sudden things something else awkward and things happened like example 595 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: where stuff happened today. I mean I didn't want to. 596 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to, you know, but I you know, 597 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: I had to set back and I didn't to speak up. 598 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I got rights too spoken about about the track. 599 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: Everybody signed the contract when we first skid here, I 600 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: mean two thy eighteen until now. You know what I mean, 601 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: you got, you got you know, look at you got 602 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: two years from now, I mean you got two years later. 603 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: You know, did I have bid here ever since twenty eighteen? 604 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, this twenty twenty now and 605 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, this first time it's ever 606 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: happened to me. Now, I never I never put in 607 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: myself in that situation all category because I never had 608 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: to set that and worry about, you know, being any 609 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: kind of sensuation category. And later on the rent and 610 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: this and that and all that and stuff like that. 611 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: Moment is supposed to been paid on the third. Okay, 612 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: Now when we set back, we made out this this 613 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: pap work. You know, I wanted to say, you know, 614 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: I started to go and get a loan you know, 615 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: from my from my from my uh, from my bank, 616 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, from my you know what I'm saying. The 617 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: loan don't come from each individual towards the way that 618 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: comes from mid that comes from mine, that comes from 619 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: my account. See what I'm saying. I have to set 620 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: back and pay that and pay that back. That's instruts. 621 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: Whose right I had to pick that back? You know 622 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that kind of like you know, 623 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: that kind of hurting, that kind of like minds is 624 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: a straight possive thing, you know, and they get danced 625 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: all the night, they get des a very first time 626 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: situation category thing was just one. That's five hundred. That 627 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: five hundred was gone you know you're gonna see I'm 628 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: saying I don't need to bring this to a tench 629 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: That five hundred was gone because I got set sending 630 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: them out through the mail, through the uh checkwise on 631 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: the straight depositive thing like that, And five hundred dollars 632 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: of that money was gone because it looks because of 633 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: the loan that I have set back for myself in 634 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: situation category, because I want to say that can take 635 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: care of the rent you know right now today and 636 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: things I don't know what's gonna be the results and 637 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: thing gos away and everybody needs and stuff like that, 638 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, but I got, you know, I got blessed 639 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: to take that n they're saying something between non Wednesday, 640 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: see what so much? No, I don't want to sit 641 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: back end up moving somewhere towards the way and being look, 642 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm sadden my business, pence and all 643 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: that stuff come you know, even if you know, even 644 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: if then they come mistake somewhere towards work and something 645 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: come here. You know. It's like for the last you know, 646 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: a couple of days, that was just a little uh 647 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: a mislaid that on that day in time for an 648 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: hour that was straight hours, you know what I'm saying, 649 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to set up and put me out. 650 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: You know that that that was cool? You know, And 651 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: I've been I've been, I've been you know here for 652 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: the last two years. Man. You know what I'm saying. 653 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: This ship hurt. I'm just huge fire with that hurts 654 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: because I just couldn't do with reality. It was towards 655 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: the way, very straight the desert, you know, the desert, 656 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: slip street. Put me out, shoot me out like that. 657 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I under standing out other places and stuff 658 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: like that. My business here here, you know, over there 659 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: at the other place, little bird or whatever house. You know, 660 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: I can understand, you know, the home situation, but I 661 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: may I'm not. You know what I'm saying. I want 662 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: nobody over there for that means I don't want to 663 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: put myself in no kind of other crossfire or miss 664 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: miss bead things towards the way, you know what I'm saying. 665 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the things they come down there, 666 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: give me put the handcuffs, putting handcuffs and all that stuff, 667 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: Like me, what when you put the haircuts and stuff? 668 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: I mean before I haven't did anything wrong. I haven't 669 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: got riding. I haven't got I haven't. I haven't disrespected 670 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: no one. I haven't got vited. I haven't. I haven't 671 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: set back and tried to push nobody around. I ain't 672 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: set back. I ain't trying to trick. I ain't try 673 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: to take justice for no one or anything like that. 674 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted everything to get on the state of 675 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: assisipuas category and without the community, without the community, and 676 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: things set back in trying to to to to help me, 677 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, towards away anything. I probably would have been 678 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: over there wheel dry or I put it with the 679 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: set back and made a see anything. We just said 680 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: forget about whatever, you know, give me all my stuff, 681 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: I'll take a throw it in the stores or whatever 682 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: how I went, and I'm just gonna step back and 683 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: let it go. Now if I wouldn't get it like that, 684 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: but you know, hey, the community like, man, what is 685 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: he doing? Man? You know my right, you know constitutional right. 686 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: They can't they can't just put you out, you know. 687 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: So that was ole since quest Charliger on that he uh, 688 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: I was kind of glad that all my uh community 689 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: workers everybody shot up and stuff on the tenant tenant 690 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, working some things kind of like didn't want 691 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: to help me all man, you know, I didn't know 692 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: what else to say or dude, what I supposed to 693 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: say it? Dude. But I'm kind of glad I didn't 694 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: give you again you op. And I'm like I thought 695 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: about I'm like, well, why should why should I do that? 696 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: And thing? But I haven't did anything wrong. I have 697 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: a disspection. I mean none of it. Think it wasn't 698 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: was about the freak thing. It was kind of like 699 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: confusion things to Thank you so much, appreciate it. Okay, 700 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: this is Steil Henderson from Willy and Howse. I have 701 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: one of the veterans of the housing and humanitary rights movement. 702 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: Here is General Dogan. General Dogan will tell us a 703 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on. So today we just 704 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: out here at the mayor's mention on our Mother's Day, 705 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: basically to let him know that sixteen years of failure, 706 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: this man has been in a city council well I 707 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: call it shitty council, eight years as a city council president. 708 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: This is the second term as mayor. When you look 709 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: at the state of the city that's going on right now, 710 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: you see that if he has totally devastated the city 711 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, all the conditions, LAPD leading the nation 712 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: and shooting, the homeless crisis the highest in the nation, 713 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: the incarceration, all that stuff falls up under his watch right, 714 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: And it's us that has allD this man for the 715 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: last fourteen years to run around here and just a 716 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of us and manipulate us, right and to do 717 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: what he doing. So we came here today to say 718 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: that his time is up, that his time is up right, 719 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: that no more, or we're going to allow this man 720 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: to come out here, you understand me, and treat us 721 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: like this man. We got to shut him down, you 722 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We got to shut the city down. 723 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: You know. We got to come out here today, you know, 724 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: and we got to organize ourselves because it's us, understand me, 725 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: that's taking the backwacks from this. So I have a question, Jerald. 726 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned this earlier, that the America that he has 727 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: had sixteen years of this, What could we have done 728 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: this differently? I've noticed the Business Improvement District and all 729 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: of these lobbyists or the capitalists have always abandoned around 730 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: them and basically weaponized the police. What could we have 731 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: done that different? So when his first year as a 732 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: city council president, right, that's when we already knew, Like 733 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, I think it was when the city voted. 734 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: They had a vote to see if they was going 735 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: to increase the red the rent city wide six percent, 736 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: three percent for the actual rent and three percent for utilities. 737 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: Right there, and this man said, you know, at several 738 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: meetings he came to that we had we was organized 739 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: a LA housing collective, and he promised us that he 740 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: was going to be the swing vote, that he was 741 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: going to be the one that killed the whole motion. Well, 742 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: he lied to us. You know what I'm saying, mean 743 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: the day of the vote, he it was his vote 744 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: that actually understands means that that that brung the damn 745 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: rent increase, right, And so it caused melee right there 746 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: on the floor of a city council. I was arrested 747 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 1: in matter of fact, and you know, I was charged 748 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 1: with eleven council of assault on the LAPD and so yeah, 749 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: they was trying to give me a three strike case. 750 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: They tried to strike me out. Man. I was in jail, 751 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: facing a life in prison, and I ended up getting 752 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: out of the case. It ended up ended up with 753 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: only one hundred and twenty days. But right then, we 754 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: should have kept footing to the fire. We should have 755 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: kept pushing it and letting them know that this ain't 756 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: going to happen. Right And because here we are almost 757 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: twelve years, ten years later, you understand when you're looking, 758 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: we see understanding what state of the condition that the 759 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: city is in. So what's it when we first became 760 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: city council president? You know what I'm saying. We should 761 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: have brung it to him right then and we wouldn't 762 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: be here today. My question, another question I have is 763 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: that was he responsible for the Safer Streets initiative? In 764 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: my first podcast we talked about this a little bit. 765 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: Was he responsible or was he or did he allow it? 766 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: Even if he was one of the players in the game. 767 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: Most definitely with Jones and stuff like that, he was 768 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: a city council member. So in two thousand and five, 769 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: the city was deemed with a federal lawsuit around Jones 770 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: called Jones Versus the City of Los Angeles, where mister 771 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 1: Jones was a homeless man that was continually arrested every 772 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: time he had a medical problem, where every time he 773 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: was stopped to rest, the cops would arrest him for 774 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: violating forty one to eighteen D, which is the municipal 775 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: they say, you can't sleep alive on public sidewalk, And 776 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: so it was an Eighth Amendment violation crue to unusual punishment, right, 777 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: and the city was deemed with that, and they in 778 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: the federal court told him to make minds. So the 779 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: amends was they would allow people to sleep on the 780 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: streets from nine o'clock at night to six o'clock in 781 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: the morning. So the city had no other choice but 782 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: to go in there and approve that and allow people 783 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: to sleep on the streets because they had no that 784 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: we had proved that all the shelters were full, the 785 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: missions was fulled, they didn't have no place for people 786 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: to go, and people had no place to go, right, 787 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: so they had no other choice with a lot of 788 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: people to sleep on this until they built twelve hundred 789 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: units of permanent support housing. And this is in two 790 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: thousand and five. Here we are going into twenty twenty 791 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: and the city has yet to meet that federal obligations 792 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: of building twelve hundred units of perman support housing in 793 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: the city of Los Angeles now with Triple H housing, 794 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: they would reach that, but that ain't. Only forty five 795 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: units from Triple H Housing then came in thus far, right, 796 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: so they still you know, it's at the head to Jones, 797 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: which was in two thousand and five. But Jones, the 798 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: city's response to Jones was just months later. Right, they 799 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: released what they call a safe Season. It's in two 800 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: thousand and six, which brung one hundred and ten extra 801 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: cops to Scared Row, making it the most most police community, 802 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 1: not only in America, but second in the world. Let 803 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: me interject here because we were on the point of police. 804 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: Have you seen about the young housed man that was 805 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: attacked by police officer Frank Hernandez. No, I haven't seen that. 806 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: Frank Hernandez was brutally beaten on camera. Why he was 807 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: Someone had called and said he was fertilizing the which 808 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: found out was false, and the police officer, officer Frank Carnande, 809 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: spat into the man's face and was beating him. Do 810 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: you have it? They had it on camera? So because 811 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: he's done house, so do you think that this is 812 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 1: one of the things what should be done about those 813 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: kind of behaviors? So so most definitely they should be addressed. 814 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: Those cops should be should be should be fired, and 815 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: they should be Ejaculacy suppressed charges on him. This is 816 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: this is what we've been trying to tell Jackie Lacy. 817 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: You know what, since she been d eight, you know, 818 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: she need to start filing charges on cops. You know, 819 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: she had not been filing charges on cops. And cops 820 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: have been having the day wait, they've been running around 821 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: here thinking of that day they feared is that they 822 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,919 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to worry about. You know what I'm saying, 823 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: because Jackuelacy ain't gonna file charges on him. And so 824 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: this is the response you get. You know, when you 825 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: got a city attorney. You know what I'm say, I 826 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: mean that support whatever you do. You know, they don't. 827 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: They don't shot people. And on one cop got drunk 828 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: and ran into a family of three on the free anyway, 829 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: the car blew up, it caught on fire, the family died. 830 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: The cops tried to sneak away. It was some people 831 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: that caught him on the freeway and helped him till 832 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: the cops come. Didn't even though he was a cop. 833 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: Right And then next day Jacku Lacy let him out 834 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: of jail, no charge is filed. So until stuff like 835 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: this is addressed, we always gonna have people, you know, 836 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: cops getting out of here thinking you know what I mean, 837 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: that that they can do this and get away with it. 838 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: And a lot of them is just hiding behind the 839 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles. That's all they doing at cowards. 840 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: Right if you if you was like we do cop 841 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: watching our community, I don't need no gun and no 842 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: mason all that, and we go out and patrol our 843 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: community every day, right, these these are cowards. You know 844 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because if you, if you was a 845 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: real person, you don't need you don't need all that. Bads, 846 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: you don't need the city to protect and control your community. 847 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: They just joined ten thousand other people so that they 848 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: can hide behind the city and do what they do. 849 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: I have a question to shoot because I had a 850 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: conversation with a friend of mine and he always says 851 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: this conversation in response to unhoused people. Particularly is an 852 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: example at Alpine Recreation Center that was like a slew 853 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: of cops and he said, well, all it takes is 854 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: want to go in and do something. But I always 855 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: have a rejoinder is when there was that kid that 856 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: was thrown off the roof and this person was housed, 857 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: there was not a flew of cops piling up in 858 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: people's homes. Why do people feel that unhoused people need 859 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: to be overly policed. That's a good one, dude. A 860 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: lot of folks believe that a lot of crime and 861 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: stuff like that comes from homeless people to sleep on 862 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: the speed. But when you look at statistics actually like 863 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: skied Row you understand, I mean ski Roll. I mean, 864 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: of course, when you drive down ski ROI it looks tough, 865 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: but actually it's a paper tiger. Skid Roll had the 866 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: lowest crime out of all twenty two LAPD divisions. Skill 867 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: Roll had the lowest crime, but we had the highest 868 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: number of enforcement in cops walking around. You can't compare 869 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: the crime that's going on around the city and gang 870 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: neighborhoods and all this stuff around there compared to a 871 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: homeless person sleeping on the sidewalk, you know, stuff like that. 872 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they have crimes what they call quality of life. 873 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, which is survival stuff like 874 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: pissing on the sidewalk. You know what I'm saying. Mean 875 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: a drinking in public right crossing the street, you know 876 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, illegally and stuff like that. Right, those 877 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: are all quality of life violations which are all small 878 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: misdemeanors and stuff like that. Right, And now you can't 879 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: compare what it's called part one crimes, which are felony 880 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: crime crimes that are get you in the penitentiary that 881 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: are going on in South Central continent. Wats right, But 882 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: yet we see more cops in our community where homeless 883 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: people at. Why because more homeless people tend to hang 884 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: around areas where there's money at, like downtown areas, restaurants, 885 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: stuff like that, because they panhander and stuff like that, right, 886 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: and so the businesses and stuff like that tend more 887 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: to push people out, push meep around, and it's more 888 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: police around those areas to attack and move the parmers 889 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: people out of the way, just so that the businesses, 890 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying mean, can have free reign. 891 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: You know what, nobody you know is messing them coming 892 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: in and out of the store. So that's what it's 893 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: all about, the police protecting the businesses. The police never 894 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: protect people residents because they don't feel that we worth 895 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: protecting and our property they don't protect because they feel 896 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: our property ain't worth nothing, you know what I mean. 897 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: And so what they do is they protect the ricks. Yeah, 898 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: and this is a private self well, and they move 899 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: homeless people away from stores and stuff like that. So 900 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 1: a farmers all up their listen to theo Henderson from 901 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,760 Speaker 1: Weedie and Howes and I thank you all for listening. 902 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:40,919 Speaker 1: Maybe again medn't like and repicent. This outro has had 903 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: many rough drafts. I changed my mind on how I 904 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: wanted to end this episode. So I'm going to end 905 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: this on with a look to some issues that you 906 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: need to ask yourself. You need to ask yourself, how 907 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 1: did we get here in the terms of the police 908 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: officer that has over fifty four percent of a budget 909 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: and the streamlining of essential services for the people in 910 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: our community. How did we get here that we have 911 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 1: the need of police to that degree that the city 912 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: is the mayor insists on overpaying police officers and they 913 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: have their own unions, their own foundations. You have to 914 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: ask yourself, how did we get here that we've allowed 915 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,439 Speaker 1: our city leaders to feed us a bunch of lives 916 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: about a vulnerable community of the unhoused community. How did 917 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: we allow the police to slither in and have them 918 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: create business improvement district entities to push the narrative that 919 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: unhouse people are criminals, all sixty thousand of them. How 920 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: did we get here where there are police officers and 921 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: the rank and file that are still terrorized and house 922 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: people in several communities and the valley and in Venice 923 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: and other places, and they are not being held accountable 924 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: by who? By us as well as the council members. 925 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: Why haven't they haven't contacted the FBI to send the 926 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: message to criminality caused by the Los Angeles police officers. 927 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: And if you think that's an extreme statement, then we 928 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: can ask the question about Frank Carnandez who attacked the 929 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: unhoused person and because he wasn't moving fast enough or 930 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't complying to his satisfaction, spat in his face 931 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: and aggressively kept up the attack while his superior, his 932 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 1: partner stood there and then called for backup to scat 933 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: against his abuse. We have to access how do we 934 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: get ourselves here when we have such an insistence on 935 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: other community members, to other partners that want to get 936 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: along with police, but yet don't put the fire to 937 00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: him and at anytime the other activist acts question, they 938 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: are usually muted or the people that support the police 939 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: are backpedaling because they don't want to be seeing to 940 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: attack the morale of the police. How did we allow 941 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: the bullies to have control of the conversation? If, for example, 942 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: an a house person went out and just beat the 943 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 1: hell out of a police officer, the outrage would be swift, 944 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: the manhunt would be immediate, and the collective of a 945 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 1: deification of the police officer would be swift by the media. 946 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: So why are we so different in trying to hold 947 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 1: the police accountable for these criminal activities? What is anyone 948 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: in ourselves that we believe that poor people should be 949 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: criminalized with project room key, A lot of the questions, 950 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the doubts that a lot of the 951 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: horrible conversations would be eliminated. Nobody that's living on the 952 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,799 Speaker 1: street to be criminalized or harassed. I had to talk 953 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: with a person that I consider a friend, but he 954 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: drives me nuts considering his experiences with the police, But 955 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: when it comes to unhoused people, he becomes the most 956 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: horrific nimbi that I've encountered. He believes that they should 957 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: be consistent punitative measures on police. Case in Point Alpine 958 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,280 Speaker 1: Recreation Center had a basically a hub of police officers 959 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: that were constantly in that neighborhood to appease nimby fears 960 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: that unhouse people, even a marginalized community, felt that they 961 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: were going to descend on them, rob them, and attack them. 962 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: And to that end, whenever I made the comment or 963 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: make the link to that, I was always silenced in 964 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: saying all it takes is one. You know they are 965 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, look, come on, this is you know, they're 966 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: just doing their job. But there's been more criminality of 967 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 1: house individuals. But you don't see them patrolling sitting in 968 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: someone's house or parked outside there a house to make 969 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: sure that things go right. How did we get here? 970 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: Is the question that I want to ask all of us, 971 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: because it's just not just the system, it's us agreeing 972 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 1: with the penalization that we have against that house people. 973 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: This episode is a reminder that once we sit there 974 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: and be silent on someone else that's being marginalized, we 975 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: are guilty and we are complicit in the abuse of 976 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: vulnerable people. And to that end, we must be able 977 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,479 Speaker 1: to be honest with ourselves check our biases and see 978 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: that sixty thousand unhoused people are not criminals. And if 979 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: we believe that, and we took it to another time 980 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: period in the World War two sixty thousand, maybe Japanese 981 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 1: are not criminals, but we put them in camps sixty 982 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: thousand of African American or Latino, we would be suitably 983 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,839 Speaker 1: in this time period speaking out. But when it comes 984 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: to unhoused people, because they have life happen to them, 985 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: health issues and virtual signaling behaviors that are needed to 986 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 1: change the narrative, we immediately turn our head. We quickly 987 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: look at and say unhoused people are criminals. We can 988 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: put on our finger the times that unhoused people have 989 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: committed crimes. But if we get very silent, and we 990 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: get defensive when I ask them to say those same 991 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: five issues that they do to unhouse people like Frank 992 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: Hernandez the officer had it gets silent. There is a 993 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: problem here. But the question is we will never get 994 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,760 Speaker 1: to the end of the solution until we ask ourselves 995 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: how did we get here? This is THEO Henderson from 996 00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: Weedy and Housed. I thank you all for listening, and 997 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,280 Speaker 1: I truly hope we meet in the light of understanding,