1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Robert Lamb and this is the 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Monster Fact, a short form series from Stuff to Blow 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: Your Mind focusing on mythical creatures, ideas, and monsters in time. 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: In a rare case of synchronicity with the news Cycle, 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: which is all about brain worms of late, I decided 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: to devote this Trek themed episode to the dreaded Seti 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: eels of Seti Alpha ve. You will, of course remember 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: them from the nineteen eighty two film Star Trek two, 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: The Wrath of Khan, in which thawd twentieth century eugenics 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: war tyrant Khan Noonan Singh, played by the superb Ricardo Montaban, 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: uses larval Seti eels to torture and control two Enterprise 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: crew members in his quest for vengeance. We also learned 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: that set eels, native to the harsh world Singh was 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: exiled to by Starfleet, killed many of Khan's people, including 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: his wife. The setiworm is a burrowing desert creature, but 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: its larva, we're told by Singh, crawl in through the 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: ear canals of host creatures to wrap themselves around the 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: cerebral cortex, rendering the host organism highly susceptible to suggestion. 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: Madness and death follow as the eel grows, unless the 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: eel is removed or leaves of its own accord. The 22 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: latter occurs with First Officer Chekhov, though the reason is uncertain. 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: Was it responding to danger, had it lost control of 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: its host? Was it in fact leaving the host in 25 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: order to continue its life cycle. We don't know any 26 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: of these answers, in part because Captain Kirk instantly vaporizes 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: the escaping eel, turning once more to the non canonical 28 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Star Trek. The Worlds of the Federation, written and illustrated 29 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: by Laura Johnson, written as Shane Johnson in nineteen eighty nine, 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: the author largely shares what we already know from the movie. 31 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Adult Seti eels, one of the few native species to 32 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: survive on the planet, grow to lengths of fourteen inches 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: and carry their young in tissue or armor folds on 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: their backs until such time as they leave the parent 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: for a host organism. In Life Signs the Biology of 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: Star Trek, Susan and Robert Jenkins briefly discuss the Seti 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: eel in context with other neural parasites and symbians of 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: the Trek universe, and there are several classifying. The possession 39 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: we see with the Seti eel is a kind of 40 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: quote co conscious mind control, with the hosts made helpless 41 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: by the superseding power of the parasite. Presumably, the whole 42 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: reason for subduing the host organism is to keep it 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: from interfering with the larva's occupation of set organism, and 44 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: we might assume that the Seti eel also eats the 45 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: tissue that it presumably burrows through to reach the cerebral cortex. 46 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Mind control aspect of this fictional parasitic scenario is of 47 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: course vary, in keeping with numerous examples from the natural 48 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: terrestrial world, including various parasitoid wasps, flatworms, hair worms, protozoans, fungi, 49 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: and more. In broad strokes, we see parasites that alter 50 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 2: host behavior to help complete their own life cycle. This 51 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: may mean mere survival or positioning of the host in 52 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: such a way that a desirable new host will consume 53 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: the current host. Now with the Seti eel, we certainly 54 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: see the former survival, but not so much The latter 55 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: eel controlled humans don't seem to do anything other than 56 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: obey fellow humans. Though one could make a case that 57 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: this alone might lead to say, uninfected human being either 58 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: being expelled, which would at least be a choice, and 59 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: you can imagine scenarios in which this would put the 60 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: current host organism in a position to, say, be near water, 61 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: or near another organism that it needs to enter, perhaps 62 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: some sort of a predator. Or you could also make 63 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: the argument that well, okay, a human that is so 64 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: easily controlled by fellow humans is going to remain in 65 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: close proximity with humans, and perhaps it just needs to 66 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: enter a new host organism once it's done munching and 67 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: constricting inside that individual skull. Either way, we also have 68 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: to acknowledge that humanoids, and remember in the Trek universe, 69 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: most or all humanoid species are very distantly related to 70 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: each other, humanoids might not be the desired vector for 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: the parasite, and in the world of actual terrestrial parasite studies, 72 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: we do see dangerous results from parasites winding up either 73 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: in the wrong host or the wrong part of the 74 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: right host. Now, I've long found this one of the 75 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 2: more horrifying aspects of sci fi space horror and particularly 76 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: sci fi space related body a human interactions with hostile 77 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: biology that simply didn't evolve to deal with human beings. 78 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: The xenomorphic threats of the Alien film franchise are great 79 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: examples of this. Of course, on one hand, the creatures 80 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: we see in the films are highly adaptive and make 81 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: use of host DNA in the acquisition of their adult forms. 82 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: They have evolved and or been engineered to make quick 83 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: study and use of new bodies. But the other horrifying 84 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: way to think about it is that here is a 85 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: creature that is truly an alien within the host body. 86 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't know what it's doing in there, and much 87 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: like the scene in twenty twelve's Prometheus with the robotic 88 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: surgery pod, this combination of high skill and lower context 89 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: for the target body runs the risk of heading into 90 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: very grizzly territory. Still, we don't have to invoke alien 91 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: to make the seti eel terrifying. The implantation scene in 92 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: Wrath of Khan remains one of the latest moments of 93 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: space horror in a franchise we don't generally associate with it. 94 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: Tune in for additional episodes of the Monster fact the 95 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: artifact or anomalius stupendium. Each week I'm going to try 96 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: and press on with at least one more trek selection, 97 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: so please send in your recommendations. As always, you can 98 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: email us at contact at stuff to Blow your Mind 99 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: dot com. 100 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: Stuff to Blow Your Mind is production of iHeartRadio. 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