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Speaker 1: So was there one of the nine in particular that

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Speaker 3: I'd like to think it was kind of involved in

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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, I think I think, uh, Brian

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Speaker 4: More virtual out or guard offside, just due to multiple movie.

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Speaker 2: From a scouting perspective. How do you sort of value

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Speaker 1: Was there a part of the Mason Smith's evaluation that

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Speaker 2: But he's a great looking kid.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how he just did.

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Speaker 3: I thought I thought he would be a certainly a

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Speaker 4: Priority made you in the top or whereas to go

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Speaker 3: Right Well, I think, uh, I mean really, I think

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Speaker 2: Where do we need to you know, to shore up?

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Speaker 4: From cham standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I don't want to see him injured at all.

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Speaker 2: And so the other thing about him is about Cam.

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Speaker 2: He's a confident kid.

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