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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing from you guys, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: the dating episodes in particular always get all kinds of feedback.

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Speaker 1: The email, by the way to write to me is

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Speaker 1: Carol Maarkowitz Show at gmail dot com. It's Ka R

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Speaker 1: O L M A. R kow I c As and

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Speaker 1: Charlie Zias and Zebra Show at gmail dot com. About

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Speaker 1: the recent one, a listener emails, Hi, Carol, I'm a

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Speaker 1: fan of your work, but think you don't know what

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Speaker 1: it's like in the dating scene right now. I want

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Speaker 1: to get married and have kids, but I've been cheated

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Speaker 1: on by every boyfriend I've had, even the good guy ones.

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven and have given up on meeting someone. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I have a situationship, but at least he's nice to

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Speaker 1: me and honest about what he wants. I don't want

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Speaker 1: someone to tell me they would like to marry me,

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Speaker 1: only for me to come to find out they've had

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Speaker 1: another girlfriend for the last six months. I'm over it. Quote.

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Speaker 1: It's so sad to read that it's not someone I

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Speaker 1: know personally, so I don't feel like I can offer

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Speaker 1: real advice, like, you know, maybe you're meeting the wrong guys,

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Speaker 1: or remember that guy that you dated, He was clearly

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Speaker 1: wrong for you. And here's why. If you wrote that

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Speaker 1: note and you're listening, turn to a good friend to

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Speaker 1: tell you honestly what you're doing wrong. And my guess

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Speaker 1: is you're probably choosing the wrong guys. But I hear

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Speaker 1: you that good guys can be bad guys too. I

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Speaker 1: also just want to add that cheating went on when

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Speaker 1: I was in a single scene. I can't say just

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Speaker 1: as much or more than now because I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I do see a push and I've talked about it

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Speaker 1: on this show before for non monogamy or open relationships

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Speaker 1: in a way that didn't exist twenty years ago. The

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Speaker 1: New York Times, for example, is obsessed with open relationships,

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Speaker 1: and I do wonder if the college educated set has

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Speaker 1: come to believe that this is a normal to live.

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Speaker 1: Don't give up. Life is long, and thirty seven is

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Speaker 1: very young. You can meet him next year or next week.

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Speaker 1: You may know him already. I would say, internalize my

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Speaker 1: six tips for meeting someone. Top of the list is

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Speaker 1: cutting off your situationship and taking it from there. You

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Speaker 1: said you like the way your situationship is honest about

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Speaker 1: what he wants? Are you honest about what you want?

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Speaker 1: Do you tell guys upfront that you're looking for marriage

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Speaker 1: and family? If you don't, maybe try that. You may

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Speaker 1: weed out the people who aren't into that quicker and

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Speaker 1: it could lead to meeting the right person. If you've

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Speaker 1: got tips with this listener, drop me an email. I'll

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Speaker 1: read some on the air in future episodes. Carol Markowitz

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Speaker 1: Show at gmail dot com, KA R O L M A. R.

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Speaker 1: Kow i CZ Show at gmail dot com. Coming up

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Speaker 1: next and interview with Brad Plum. Join us after the break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My

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Speaker 2: guest today is Brad Palumbo. Brad is an independent journalist

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Speaker 2: and the host of the Brad Versus Everyone podcast, which

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Speaker 2: I enjoy very much, where he covers the craziest ideas

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Speaker 2: from across the Internet and across our politics.

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Speaker 3: Hi Brad, Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: I have to say I think I like the segments

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Speaker 2: where I disagree with you the most. Whenever I'm like

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Speaker 2: you know on Instagram and I see you get it,

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Speaker 2: you get into your libertarian space a little bit and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, Brad, you know I like.

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Speaker 3: To poke in both directions. I think it's I think

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Speaker 3: it's boring if you're just agreeing with so sometimes I

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Speaker 3: specifically pick topics where I know the majority of my followers,

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Speaker 3: who do tend to be much more right wing than me.

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Speaker 3: I know this will disagree with me, partly because I

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Speaker 3: want to weed out not the people who disagree with me.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to read them out, the people who

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Speaker 3: aren't open to different views. I want them to unfollow me, right.

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Speaker 3: I want engaged followers who like the discourse, like the disagreement,

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Speaker 3: like the debate. If somebody is going to get upset

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Speaker 3: because I criticized Trump once, they're probably not the right

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Speaker 3: audience for me anyway that I'm trying to cultivate.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, I am more thinking about that you do

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Speaker 2: take controversial positions and you sort of are poking us.

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Speaker 3: I feel it, but I I do try to do it,

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Speaker 3: do it in like a constructive way, not like a.

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Speaker 3: But I have always liked a little bit of drama

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Speaker 1: So how did you get into this world?

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Speaker 2: What was your earliest like media experience?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I went to college thinking that I wanted

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Speaker 3: having different viewpoints and I just had so happened to

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Speaker 3: the University of Massachusetts Ammers. You merried, yes, And I

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Speaker 3: just went there because I graduated from high school in Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: So that's why I went there. I didn't go there

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Speaker 3: insufferable social justice warrior climate imaginable. So imagine the least

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Speaker 3: sense of humor, the most tone policing, the most speech policing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you remember that gorilla that I think

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Speaker 3: dipping my toe into you know, actual professional media, not

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Speaker 3: My first big hit was about care bears. All right,

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Speaker 3: campus put up care bears that said remember to sleep

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's not so bad, you know. I

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Speaker 2: would say, so, what do you like covering? What are

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Speaker 3: I cover a lot of what I would just say,

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Speaker 3: are like gen Z interests and topics, a lot of

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Speaker 3: what's going on on TikTok. A lot of my background.

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Speaker 3: My degree is in economics, so I do like to

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Speaker 3: push back on socialist, communist ideas. I'm a hardcore died

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Speaker 3: about individual like individual liberty stuff. But I'm very anti

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Speaker 3: time on TikTok. It is really a dark place, but

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Speaker 3: millions of people are getting their information from these wildly

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Speaker 1: What do you worry about?

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Speaker 2: Like, what do you think is our largest cultural problem?

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Speaker 3: I think our largest cultural problem is growing intolerance, And

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Speaker 3: trite slogans are no replacement for meaningful policy ideas or something.

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Speaker 3: Want that one. Yeah, it's something like that. It's like

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Speaker 3: really feel like that's evaporating in our country, and people

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Speaker 3: I disagree with. I don't think I have ever called

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Speaker 3: to be deplatformed or silenced or shouted down or demonetized

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. I've challenged them to debates, I've

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Speaker 3: debunked them, I've fact checked them. I've even written, cueled

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Speaker 3: remember kind of decades ago. Maybe the more Christian right

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Speaker 3: and sometimes the idea is turnabout is fair play right? Like,

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Speaker 3: something they posted on the internet in reverse. And I

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Speaker 3: not like gasping for air running like The benefits are

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Speaker 3: so extensively documented. But so many people live such sedentary lifestyles.

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Speaker 3: And you know, some people have tons sometimes yeah, some

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Speaker 3: people have tons of kids. Some people work fifteen hours

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Speaker 3: a day. I'm not talking to you, guys. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: to the people like me that work from home, find

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Speaker 3: go walk around the park near your house, or get

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Speaker 3: active somehow. It is such an underrated, non pharmaceutical cure

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Speaker 3: for so many of the ailments that we have today

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Speaker 3: from both physical, mental, and emotional exercise. I think is

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Speaker 3: criminally underrated in this country.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really wise suggestion for all of us.

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Speaker 2: I keep meaning to take people up on that. I

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Speaker 2: haven't quite done it yet, but any day now. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for coming on Red. Check out his show.

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Speaker 2: He's really great. He's all over YouTube, all over Instagram, TikTok.

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Speaker 2: I've never been on there, but I assume you're on there.

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Speaker 2: Check him out.

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Speaker 1: Brad Palombo, thanks, thanks so much for joining us on

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