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Speaker 1: Was Mark aware of Frank Ocean? Who Frank Ocean was
Speaker 1: before this weekend? I don't know. Was he there? We'll
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Speaker 3: I was. There were a couple of Easter eggs there
Speaker 3: on Instagram, including the shot in front of the wheel.
Speaker 3: And once you see somebody's at Coachella, it's like the
Speaker 3: shot in front of the big Ferris wheel. That's it.
Speaker 4: That's the one that's like.
Speaker 3: Go if you go to Paris, you get the shot
Speaker 3: in front of the Eiffel Tower, you do the Ferris
Speaker 3: Ferris wheel.
Speaker 1: I've never been. I haven't been yet.
Speaker 4: What it is it's literally a fairest.
Speaker 3: We have a bunch of twenty somethings behind the glass,
Speaker 3: like raise your hand if you've gotten a photo in
Speaker 3: front of the ferris wheel. Go ahead, yeah stable, why
Speaker 3: sheepish fly? Like stand on it? All right? So, how
Speaker 3: was everybody great?
Speaker 4: I'm glad that I was able to spend a little
Speaker 4: extra time with you guys today. It was a solid
Speaker 4: We were delayed and and we were able to have
Speaker 4: discussions and fellowship and it was good.
Speaker 1: And I appreciate somemwell who does the drop at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, noticing the work I've done on
Speaker 1: my cabs. I'm not jogging it like a pretty slow
Speaker 1: pace or lazily biking for thirty minutes at a time
Speaker 1: while I watched TV for nothing. It's for the babes, for.
Speaker 3: The listening audience, and unfortunately we were sitting at desks.
Speaker 3: Greg has cut off shorts very high on the quads
Speaker 3: and then just those calves just bulging. What a piece
Speaker 3: of work.
Speaker 4: Not a very reactive muscle because you work them so much,
Speaker 4: so it takes a lot. And Greg has clearly been
Speaker 4: putting in good call, a lot good call.
Speaker 3: I think said this podcast doesn't have sex appeal. I
Speaker 3: thought we'd get seventy minutes on the Frank Ocean set today,
Speaker 3: So I don't really have anything planned, but we'll try
Speaker 3: to figure something out on the fly. Here today's show,
Speaker 3: a star quarterback gets paid. The Cardinals continue to wrestle
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Speaker 3: chat today on team needs ahead of the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: three NFL Draft, which Patrick begins Thursday night in Kansas City.
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Speaker 3: we get into anything though, Let's do some news.
Speaker 4: Hurts of the gun, Hurts. Let's time fakes.
Speaker 1: He's back, he's looking deep. He wants a J.
Speaker 3: Brown and it's.
Speaker 1: Called for a touchdown.
Speaker 5: Hey, J Brown, it's double coverage. It doesn't matter. He
Speaker 5: throws the ball into an area where AJ Brown can
Speaker 5: make the adjustment, and he's jocking around and he makes
Speaker 5: that proper.
Speaker 4: Adjustment to the football for a touchdown. He runs through.
Speaker 5: Contact so well, forty five yards Mike.
Speaker 3: Quick, Jalen Hurts, and yes, AJ Brown. Incredible chemistry they
Speaker 3: displayed throughout the twenty twenty two season and that should
Speaker 3: continue going forward. After the Eagles and Hurts that was
Speaker 3: from the Super Bowl, of course, I should say, reached
Speaker 3: agreement on a five year, two hundred and fifty five
Speaker 3: million dollar extension that includes nearly one hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: million guaranteed. The Eagles have confirmed Monday that a extension
Speaker 3: is in place. The financials not, but they're out there.
Speaker 3: It's the biggest contract in terms of average annual value
Speaker 3: in NFL history. Deshaun Watson's two hundred and thirty million
Speaker 3: dollar contract sign last year at the Browns is fully guaranteed.
Speaker 3: That's still the biggest in terms of guaranteed money. But
Speaker 3: Gregy Hurts also gets what he deserves, a ton of money,
Speaker 3: a lot of guaranteed money. Not as much as the
Speaker 3: other guy, but a ton and a no trade clause
Speaker 3: he set up with the Eagles. Both sides figured.
Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, one hundred and ten million, fully guaranteed, one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six guaranteed by next March in a
Speaker 1: no trade clause, which is interesting. I think we get
Speaker 1: into the money later, but to me, it's just like
Speaker 1: one of the best development stories that we've seen over
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. To think where we were at
Speaker 1: this point only one year ago, coming off that Bucks
Speaker 1: playoff game where Todd Bowles cooked up the Eagles pretty good,
Speaker 1: showed a lot of looks where the offensive line was confused.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was confused. Oh can Jalen Hurts handle the blitz? Oh?
Speaker 1: This Jalen Hurts story was nice that they ran a
Speaker 1: lot in the second half of the year. Does that
Speaker 1: really have legs? Can this guy really play quarterback? The
Speaker 1: big question about Hurts coming into this year was can
Speaker 1: he be a long term guy? The idea of him
Speaker 1: being one of the best quarterbacks in the league, like
Speaker 1: wasn't on anyone's mind. And his play in this season
Speaker 1: was so good. I was, I think, as big a
Speaker 1: Hurts fan as I could be, and yet I did
Speaker 1: not expect him to be that good. He's one of
Speaker 1: the most effective runners, and that was one of the
Speaker 1: most effective running seasons in NFL history from a quarterback.
Speaker 1: But the improvement he's made since his college tape when
Speaker 1: he wasn't as good as a passer, to his rookie
Speaker 1: year to second year to this year is awesome and
Speaker 1: it's a great reminder with the draft coming in ten days,
Speaker 1: how far from a finished product most of these players.
Speaker 4: Are, literally, and it's one of the hardest things to
Speaker 4: project is what somebody's going to be in two and
Speaker 4: three years, and you just make the decision based off
Speaker 4: of what they currently are. But all through his time
Speaker 4: at Alabama and at Oklahoma, there was this pocket management
Speaker 4: issue with Jalen and he would bail, he would bail,
Speaker 4: and he would float out to his right, and people wondered, like,
Speaker 4: how does that? How do we get rid of this?
Speaker 4: And you saw it, as you mentioned, like in those
Speaker 4: games where things would get tough. It was looking for
Speaker 4: options that weren't there and giving up on the passing concepts,
Speaker 4: and then that all just goes away, and he has
Speaker 4: this twenty twenty three season, twenty twenty two season where it's, oh, well,
Speaker 4: if the Eagles get decent play from Jalen Hurts, then
Speaker 4: they're going to be really good. Well they got better
Speaker 4: than that, and they were a play away from winning
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Yeah, And you could even pick and
Speaker 4: choose which play that was, because there were any number
Speaker 4: of them. And there's literally no more other case to make.
Speaker 4: Even the people even like the weird win stands that
Speaker 4: were still somehow existing towards the end of the twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two season where even they can't argue that Jalen
Speaker 4: Hurts is a quarterback that should be paid long term
Speaker 4: in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there is. Yeah, he's twenty four
Speaker 3: years old. He's had one truly kind of transcendent MVP
Speaker 3: level season. So you could say, oh, was there a
Speaker 3: little bit of a gambling here, Well, I don't see it.
Speaker 3: I think he showed on the biggest stage in the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl at the end of a season in which
Speaker 3: they went fourteen and one with him as the starter
Speaker 3: that he is absolutely every bit the real deal. But
Speaker 3: you never know, you never know how these guys age
Speaker 3: and how injuries can change things. But if you're the Eagles,
Speaker 3: this makes so much sense, even though it costs obviously
Speaker 3: a lot and will change how they have to manage
Speaker 3: their roster going forward. You trust this organization with Roshan
Speaker 3: to be able to change how they do business. Now
Speaker 3: they have this huge quarterback contract. Yeah, he's earned that.
Speaker 3: He's earned that side of things, and I think you're
Speaker 3: going to see with Joe Burrow coming up, justin Herbert
Speaker 3: potentially coming up here, you might even see this contract
Speaker 3: get quickly a leap frog in terms of the greatest
Speaker 3: average year value and all that. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that this isn't a good contract. I think it's fair
Speaker 3: for both sides. And then there's the Lamar side of it, guys,
Speaker 3: which is this was a I just saw this actually
Speaker 3: before we came up because we we're delayed. Have we
Speaker 3: mentioned we were delayed before today's show.
Speaker 1: It'll always be a mystery why we were delayed.
Speaker 3: This from Jamison Hensley over at ESPN hurts his five
Speaker 3: year contract extension with the Eagles is very similar to
Speaker 3: the Lamar Jackson offer he turned down its September. According
Speaker 3: to Schefter and mort total value really the total value
Speaker 3: two fifty five b two fifty, Hurts two fifty five
Speaker 3: and guaranteed for injury one seventy nine be one seventy five.
Speaker 3: Do you see Patricks?
Speaker 1: Okay? But get Hurts had one to ten guaranteed total
Speaker 1: just saying they like to fuzz around with the math.
Speaker 1: It was not like a a salary that was a
Speaker 1: top like in terms of guarantees. It wasn't even close
Speaker 1: to a top five quarterback so far in terms of
Speaker 1: total guarantee.
Speaker 3: Buddy. So do you think now that this deal is
Speaker 3: done and you're seeing the next big contract post to
Speaker 3: Shaun Watson, that this opens the door for Lamar and
Speaker 3: Eagles to go down a road that's like this contract.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the clearest road, which was what we
Speaker 4: saw after the Odell signing, was perhaps the Ravens are
Speaker 4: willing to come up on what Lamar said, right was
Speaker 4: three years, one thirty three, Like it's a baseline.
Speaker 1: Right, So that would have been like forty two million
Speaker 1: dollars a year, whereas Hurt's got fifty whatever.
Speaker 4: And if you go off of the because the verbage,
Speaker 4: which is what Greg was referencing, the verbage, it depends
Speaker 4: on who you're talking to, because you get one seventy
Speaker 4: nine in guarantees for Jalen Hurts, right, But what are
Speaker 4: those guarantees if there's conditions on them? Are they actually guarantees?
Speaker 4: But if we go off of one seventy nine over
Speaker 4: five years, and that's thirty five million dollars a year
Speaker 4: in guaranteed money for Jalen Hurts. If we go off
Speaker 4: of that, it is thirty five a year, the number
Speaker 4: that Lamar was looking for. I just wish that we
Speaker 4: had concrete details when we're comparing and saying, oh, well,
Speaker 4: these contracts are very similar. Will show me, like, show
Speaker 4: me specifically where they're similar. And if we're talking about
Speaker 4: the average annual value, that could be anything we can
Speaker 4: tack on some years and I could give Greg six
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars if we tack on the right structure,
Speaker 4: But like, what's the what's the actual guarantee and is
Speaker 4: if we don't know, then it's tough for me to
Speaker 4: make a comparison. Because other quarterbacks have been paid since
Speaker 4: the negotiation was Lamar started and that didn't do anything.
Speaker 4: So I'm just confused as to why this would change
Speaker 4: unless it changes what the Ravens are willing to offer,
Speaker 4: and I don't. I don't think they've gotten close to
Speaker 4: what Lamar wants.
Speaker 1: Right like, I think they're too totally separate issus. I
Speaker 1: love that Jalen Hurts was really motivated to get this
Speaker 1: deal done, and then the Eagles were too, and they
Speaker 1: did it quietly in terms of just like handling it quickly.
Speaker 1: They said they were going to get it done. They
Speaker 1: got it done. Everyone's happy. Lamar it seems like totally
Speaker 1: to the side and isn't going to be side. I mean,
Speaker 1: isn't going to be affected at all, And that's fine,
Speaker 1: Like you want different things. He also, you know, Hurts
Speaker 1: does it with a couple of years left on his contract,
Speaker 1: so it's different in terms of leverage in terms of
Speaker 1: like motivation, but the whole like guaranteed thing it does
Speaker 1: sort of annoy me because it goes out there as
Speaker 1: one seventy nine in total guarantees, but then quickly in
Speaker 1: our article, no, it's one twenty six fully guaranteed by
Speaker 1: March twenty twenty four. That's the real number to me,
Speaker 1: and even then, like in theory, if something terrible happened
Speaker 1: this year, he doesn't even know.
Speaker 3: What that was the real guarantee of the Lamar Jackson one.
Speaker 1: Apparently it was three. We don't really know because we
Speaker 1: never got the structures in that, but they said it
Speaker 1: was three for one thirty three, and that was sort
Speaker 1: of the whole deal that it was. That that's where
Speaker 1: it started and got him mad. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to get him any closer.
Speaker 4: But that was that was the number after years of negotiation, right,
Speaker 4: and that was the number after the Deshaun contract. So
Speaker 4: we don't ever know because there's the test tisking about
Speaker 4: Lamar not holding out two years ago, and we don't
Speaker 4: know what that offer was.
Speaker 1: I get the sense Lamar's kind of cooler about all
Speaker 1: this than maybe the outside is, and that he might
Speaker 1: be okay just playing for the franchise tag and seeing
Speaker 1: what happens next year. I mean, the whole Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: thing makes you feel that, because Odell Beckham said at
Speaker 1: his press conference, you know he's been in contact with Lamar,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think he's feeling pretty good about it, or.
Speaker 3: There's a sense of resignation at this point. I think
Speaker 3: maybe he's this just isn't gonna happen. That there hasn't
Speaker 3: been an offer on the on the market for him.
Speaker 3: The Ravens obviously haven't budged from where they're at. So
Speaker 3: what does he do at a certain point other than
Speaker 3: what not play?
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the options to situation.
Speaker 1: I do think it's a It's interesting that like the
Speaker 1: two times these types of contracts have gone the worst
Speaker 1: since this last CBA happened, where Carson Wentz and Jared
Speaker 1: Goff and the Eagles weren't afraid at all. They they
Speaker 1: believed in Hurts. I think the dude as much as
Speaker 1: the player. Obviously, they believe in him as a player.
Speaker 1: Like they that didn't burn, They didn't feel burnt at
Speaker 1: all by that experience and did a similarly like top
Speaker 1: shelf type of contract for him and not worried about
Speaker 1: building around him. E there's a lot of good play
Speaker 1: around and making a lot of money too.
Speaker 3: All right, moving on, do you guys want to head
Speaker 3: to the Cardinal's nest?
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Everything it survived. It's a very light structure, sound pretty heavy.
Speaker 4: They weren't in there.
Speaker 3: It was that the same tree justin Yeah, sorry, all
Speaker 3: right anyway. ESPN's Adam Chapter reports that Cardinals safety Buddha
Speaker 3: Baker has told the team, in fact, he told the
Speaker 3: team back in February, that he wanted to be traded
Speaker 3: unless he got a new contract that makes him the
Speaker 3: highest paid safety in the league. He is in the
Speaker 3: top ten right now in terms of I paid safety's
Speaker 3: number seven to be exact. But he wants that big deal.
Speaker 3: It's a rebuilding team obviously, as you can hear the
Speaker 3: chainsaws out and in other Cardinals nest news, Nuke Hopkins
Speaker 3: took to Twitter briefly to post a tweet that he
Speaker 3: was not looking for a raise. That tweet mysteriously disappeared.
Speaker 3: But with Hoppins or DeAndre Hopkins on the trade block,
Speaker 3: we haven't heard anything yet. He obviously hasn't been moved yet.
Speaker 3: Will he get it asked for a new contract. He's
Speaker 3: still greg making a pretty good penny right now. He's
Speaker 3: due to make nearly twenty million under his current deal.
Speaker 3: For contrast on that, Odell just signed a deal that
Speaker 3: was worth fifteen up to eighteen. Anyway, Hopkins still with
Speaker 3: the Cardinals. This feels like a draft weekend trade. I
Speaker 3: kind of feel it.
Speaker 1: I feel it too, and I think it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: and important to note that, Look, this is triple sourced.
Speaker 1: Oh I mean no, not for me. This is on
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins's own personal Twitter account, and then he's quoted
Speaker 1: as saying Hopkins doesn't want to raise, and then he
Speaker 1: put dash nuke. So that's like from the Twitter account
Speaker 1: Hopkins and Nuke.
Speaker 3: It's another way to get to the three.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's this is about as verifiable as
Speaker 1: as possible.
Speaker 3: I mean, from a verified account.
Speaker 1: I believe so, right, I think that's like fifth person,
Speaker 1: Hopkins doesn't want to trade, Nuke. It's from DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: That's a new one.
Speaker 3: That maybe a red flag that he signed it, like
Speaker 3: maybe that's something somebody that hacked his account would do.
Speaker 3: I'm just lowing that out there, and.
Speaker 4: It doesn't It could just be a quote, right, because
Speaker 4: he's quoting himself saying that Hopkins doesn't want to raise.
Speaker 4: But I could quote myself saying that sure Patrick is
Speaker 4: eight feet tall, right, just.
Speaker 3: Like Greg is gonna get a six hundred million dollar count.
Speaker 1: It was it was in quote form. Yeah, I'm maybe
Speaker 1: it's it's it seems more like, yeah, someone that doesn't
Speaker 1: tweet a ton, But I think it trades happening. They
Speaker 1: want to get rid of them. I mean they And
Speaker 1: that was the agent saying, hey, what are you doing, bro? Yeah,
Speaker 1: delete that tweet. We will try to get a raised
Speaker 1: if we can. Probably won't be.
Speaker 3: Able to do. You know, you're thirty one almost you
Speaker 3: just got suspended for PDS and you know it's probably
Speaker 3: not going to be easy to best your current contract.
Speaker 3: But let's let's keep that as an option.
Speaker 1: I think he is more likely to get traded than
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, although Buddha Baker, look, if the Cardinals just
Speaker 1: want to like avoid all drama, like someone would give
Speaker 1: him a new contract.
Speaker 3: I believe could you not.
Speaker 4: See a path for a full rebuild year considering that
Speaker 4: there's going to be a significant portion non Kyler, right,
Speaker 4: So it's just give boot over what you want.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just sad. If you're a Cardinals fan,
Speaker 1: It's like, what more could you possibly get rid of?
Speaker 1: They don't have much we have, we have our team
Speaker 1: needs coming up, and it's like they need it all
Speaker 1: but the one thing they didn't need was like a
Speaker 1: dynamic safety. They've got one of the best and he
Speaker 1: has two years left on his contract. Did you hear
Speaker 1: By the way, Hopkins was on a podcast and he
Speaker 1: was instructed on this podcast was the All Things Covered podcast,
Speaker 1: and he said they asked him if you'd want to
Speaker 1: join a team, and they sort of based on his
Speaker 1: body language. He wasn't because he couldn't talk, but he
Speaker 1: sort of like did it off body language and what happened,
Speaker 1: and by body language, he sort of indicated he was
Speaker 1: out on the AFCs, didn't really like the Pets or
Speaker 1: Jets rather, but he would be in on the Bills
Speaker 1: and he would be in on the Chiefs. So I
Speaker 1: mean that it's just this is the part of the
Speaker 1: off season we're at now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's get this deal done. I like the
Speaker 3: idea of him in Kansas City. I'd be nice.
Speaker 4: I think he likes it as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Bill O'Brien issue would be an
Speaker 1: issue for him.
Speaker 3: Apparently, let's move to Minnesota or Quesciodolfo Mensa, the general
Speaker 3: manager of the Vikings, held a press conference and he
Speaker 3: was asked about Dalvin Cook Bowl running back and he
Speaker 3: continued to use language that kind of kept the story paused.
Speaker 3: That the conversations between the Vikings and the Cook camp
Speaker 3: are ongoing. The team is trying to be this one's
Speaker 3: ominous solutions oriented. Zadaria Smith, also a player that he
Speaker 3: already weeks ago now tweeted his goodbye to Minnesota, but
Speaker 3: he's still on the team and talks, according to the
Speaker 3: GM or ongoing there as well. Patrick, the Vikings not
Speaker 3: quite in the Cardinals boat by a long shot, to
Speaker 3: be quite honest with you. They did go thirteen and
Speaker 3: four last year, even if that was a little dressed up. Still,
Speaker 3: this is a team that has a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: to figure out if they are going to contend in
Speaker 3: a meaningful way next year.
Speaker 4: And we've already seen significant change on the roster already
Speaker 4: Kendrick's departure, Adam Thielen is gone, he's in Carolina.
Speaker 3: They have the worst cap situation in the league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad, Yeah, but like looking back, Dalvin actually
Speaker 4: played more games in twenty twenty two than he has
Speaker 4: in any season in his career. Another eleven hundred yard season.
Speaker 4: I think that was his fourth in a row. But
Speaker 4: you just wonder where's the improvement going to be, Like,
Speaker 4: where's the space to improve? Considering like, as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: some of those wins could have easily been losses. That
Speaker 4: there's so much discussion over the one score game with
Speaker 4: the Vikings, and you kind of wonder, not to the
Speaker 4: extent of the Cardinals, right, but you kind of wonder, like,
Speaker 4: what who are we doing here? What's the plan? And
Speaker 4: it's just kirk Man, It's just the plan.
Speaker 3: Should be mentioned by the way they tabled kirk and
Speaker 3: the idea of an extension there. That's a whole separate conversation.
Speaker 3: But they also re signed Greggi as we know, Alexander
Speaker 3: Madison to a two year deal in the off season,
Speaker 3: almost six and a half million guaranteed, which puts him
Speaker 3: in the top twenty of NFL running back. So it's
Speaker 3: like that they have the guy that would become their
Speaker 3: most likely featured back or a main guy back. There
Speaker 3: now just becomes about pulling the trigger and finding a
Speaker 3: way to move.
Speaker 1: It seems I think he go on. But if he
Speaker 1: took if Dalvin Cook took a big enough pay cut,
Speaker 1: then made I think that's where he's talking about solutions oriented.
Speaker 1: But when they asked like, when you re signed Madison,
Speaker 1: did you see him still being a backup? And their
Speaker 1: answer to that was essentially, well, there there is a
Speaker 1: scenario where you could see him and Dalvin on the
Speaker 1: same team, but that sort of implies the most likely
Speaker 1: scenario is that Alexander Madison is the starting quarterback and
Speaker 1: I mean the starting running back. And Zadaria Smith, for
Speaker 1: what it's worth, I don't know if he never posted
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm not really on top of this, but
Speaker 1: he does not have any posts on Instagram. Left left
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker also took off all of his Cardinals stuff,
Speaker 1: but Zaandaria Smith has not taken it off of Twitter.
Speaker 1: His second to last tweet, in fact, is saying thank
Speaker 1: you to Skull Nation of him wearing Vikings uniform, but
Speaker 1: it's also saying goodbye to all of.
Speaker 3: You, so that seems And finally in the news, how
Speaker 3: about this, how about Patrick? The off season training program
Speaker 3: has begun, So the off season is over and it's
Speaker 3: time now for us to fold into a new season
Speaker 3: of the NFL.
Speaker 4: If you'll be enjoyed the off season, it was good.
Speaker 3: You know what you do with the family of this offseason?
Speaker 4: The same things all the time, chased them around, cleaned
Speaker 4: up bermuda steps, yeah, stepped on toys, none of that.
Speaker 4: But it's all the Colts and the Panthers got to work.
Speaker 4: We on NFL. Now we had some dude doing.
Speaker 1: Pull up chiefs. Chiefs were out there.
Speaker 3: Doing we was doing performative pull ups. That was in
Speaker 3: April seventeen.
Speaker 4: That was the thing. I was like, who is that?
Speaker 4: I want to say, it's just some dude. We don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm still uh, you know, as our former president Barack
Speaker 1: Obama used, they still Hawaii in my mind again, I'm
Speaker 1: still in in my mind, he just walks and keeps it,
Speaker 1: keeps it everywhere. We don't need to be reporting on
Speaker 1: who doesn't show up for like weightlifting at this point,
Speaker 1: but have you they have? It has been noted around
Speaker 1: the league a few a few like franchise players and whatnot,
Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and another.
Speaker 3: There you go. The new Greg who went to Hawaiian
Speaker 3: came back a different man. Can you cite any examples
Speaker 3: since I last saw you Thursday? You know, the old
Speaker 3: Greg maybe a little bit on edge, maybe would have
Speaker 3: handled the situation one way. But new Greg came back
Speaker 3: from the Islands. Handled it this way.
Speaker 1: Our show is delayed today, and I just took it
Speaker 1: as it as it came. I took advantage of the
Speaker 1: extra time, spent time with Patrick, prepped a little more
Speaker 1: for a segment, and just, hey, control what you can control.
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. It was a very out of example.
Speaker 1: The seventy eight annoying things I could say to Emmica,
Speaker 1: my beautiful wife this weekend that I could have said,
Speaker 1: how many said seventy seven? I held one.
Speaker 3: Boom could have been a big one.
Speaker 4: It's still changed.
Speaker 3: Could have been the one that all right, let's take
Speaker 3: a break and uh, I'm gonna spin that wheel.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: Hey, one more quote, like circling back to Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: This was from Nick Sirianni, Eagles head coach back in January,
Speaker 3: referring to, you know, having this quarterback who has reached
Speaker 3: this high level, superstar level play even I think he's
Speaker 3: in the superstar club.
Speaker 1: Then right, when you have the best game of your
Speaker 1: career in the super Bowl, it's pretty good. That'll do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jake Doloone did that too, but.
Speaker 1: You didn't come in second for MVP vote in that
Speaker 1: same year.
Speaker 3: But it's a fair point anyway. This is what Sirianni said.
Speaker 3: It's like having Michael Jordan out there. He's your leader,
Speaker 3: he's your guy.
Speaker 6: Yes, football is completely different than basketball.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Mark. But if you believe you have a
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan like figure in your locker room, you give
Speaker 3: the man bag.
Speaker 4: So good job and also don't make him mad because
Speaker 4: Mike would strike you. I don't think Jalen would strike
Speaker 4: you like Mike would.
Speaker 3: But I watched that with Aflec and damon me too.
Speaker 3: It's good. I gave it a three out of four
Speaker 3: word come down on it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's good. I enjoyed it a lot.
Speaker 6: It was interesting.
Speaker 1: I haven't yet I will.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: It's in theater, it's in theaters.
Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters and then I after watching
Speaker 3: it because I find Jordan to be immensely compelling, as
Speaker 3: many people do. I revisited the Netflix ten part series Who,
Speaker 3: So I'm very much got a lot of Jordan on
Speaker 3: the mind. So, yeah, Michael Jordan, what a player.
Speaker 1: I feel like Jalen Hurts is more loved, probably by
Speaker 1: his teammates rather than feared.
Speaker 3: I would say so, I would say so. Anyway, let's
Speaker 3: get into it. Let us and again if you are
Speaker 3: just tuning in, if you're looking for the Frank Ocean
Speaker 3: breakdown Wednesday's podcast when Mark Sessler returns from Coachella.
Speaker 1: I did watch the Boy Genius set live? About that?
Speaker 3: How did you the streaming? Nah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, enjoyed it. I mean yeah, it's all streaming.
Speaker 3: I feel like Boy Genius checks all the Rosenthal boxes
Speaker 3: what you look for in your indie.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a huge Julian Baker is one third of
Speaker 1: the supergroup. So I went and saw boyd Bridges five
Speaker 1: years ago in their first time time around here.
Speaker 3: You got Phoebe, got Phoebe Bridges, you.
Speaker 1: Got Lucy Dacis. Yeah, really will get the pop not
Speaker 1: as much, but I don't know if Julian Baker really
Speaker 1: does either. But uh, go go support.
Speaker 3: We save this for the Boy Genius podcast. Maybe we will.
Speaker 3: Let's get to it. Let's get to it all right.
Speaker 3: This is i P. This is our i P. It's
Speaker 3: our tech. It is the wheel O Mattic random randomizer
Speaker 3: and with the draft. Well, okay, that's a game show type.
Speaker 4: You wanted more dystopian like, quite honest.
Speaker 3: But it's fine. We're gonna keep moving forward, no issue.
Speaker 1: Keep that Harlot Bridget out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is your main job. Don't worry about
Speaker 3: anything else. Justin for the balance of the program, Let's
Speaker 3: just keep the wheel o Mattic as the as the
Speaker 3: ip here. We're gonna spin the wheel and wherever the
Speaker 3: wheel lands. And this is legit, like, we have no
Speaker 3: idea what is going to happen. Justin, it's going to spin.
Speaker 3: It's going to land on a team, and we are
Speaker 3: going to immediately dive into a conversation in that team's
Speaker 3: biggest needs as the draft approaches. Pretty straightforward, let's get it, okay,
Speaker 3: spin it. Anything we need to know justin, the wheel
Speaker 3: is random.
Speaker 6: That's all you need to know.
Speaker 3: The Houston Texans are the first team up. I was
Speaker 3: reading boys Peter King's column. He has a popular, venerable
Speaker 3: column called Monday Morning something or other. What's it called now?
Speaker 3: Football Morning in America used to be Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: You know Peter King, right, great.
Speaker 4: Sure familiar with his work.
Speaker 3: King talking, you know in his latest he is a
Speaker 3: legend breaking down He's talked to a bunch of people
Speaker 3: in the know. Everyone's certain at this point that Bryce
Speaker 3: Young is going number one to the Panthers. That is
Speaker 3: what he's hearing. So then it becomes the number two
Speaker 3: pick C. J. Stroud. There are whispers, there are whispers
Speaker 3: out there that they are not going to take Stroud
Speaker 3: or maybe even pick at number two. What do they
Speaker 3: need to do, Greg? What are the biggest needs for Houston?
Speaker 3: Obviously QB is one.
Speaker 1: I mean QB is the one. Yeah, So that's why
Speaker 1: passing on a QB at two would be compelling. But
Speaker 1: they could trade bals.
Speaker 3: Because they passed on a quarterback last year when they
Speaker 3: had two high value picks as well.
Speaker 1: Right, I would think it'd be in borderline insane unless
Speaker 1: they got their quarterback another way. For instance, our friend
Speaker 1: over at established the run Evan Silva has them trading
Speaker 1: taking Will Anderson two and then trading into three with
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and taking Will Levis there. There's some buzz
Speaker 1: that there may be not a Stroud team. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario spoke on Monday as we're taping this and
Speaker 1: insisted the reports that he might not be there after
Speaker 1: the draft are untrue.
Speaker 3: It's like the DiCaprio character in Wolf of ball Street said.
Speaker 3: He referenced that just me and Casario on the same wavelength.
Speaker 1: So he's not going anywhere. Apparently at this point, it
Speaker 1: would be insane for him to not have a quarterback
Speaker 1: after three years, because you look at the rest of
Speaker 1: their roster, they have so many needs. He's done very
Speaker 1: little good work in the last two years other than
Speaker 1: firing two head coaches.
Speaker 4: I got a little insight into their decision making when
Speaker 4: Steve Whysh had an interview with Dimiko at the league
Speaker 4: meeting not too long ago, and Dimiko's quote was, there's
Speaker 4: two really good quarterbacks that we both feel great about.
Speaker 4: But the question is how much is the gap do
Speaker 4: they see between quarter back one and quarterback two? And
Speaker 4: I think if they wanted to trade out, it shouldn't
Speaker 4: be that difficult because teams do have a favorite between
Speaker 4: Levis and Richardson and maybe Stroud, Like all of these
Speaker 4: other things, you're gonna want to get your favorite, and
Speaker 4: so Arizona isn't in the market right and so there's
Speaker 4: a path ahead. But I think right they do have
Speaker 4: a need for a star defensive player, and Will Anderson
Speaker 4: is there they could do that. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: that much of a stretch where if they say, look like,
Speaker 4: we think CJ is good, but is he number two
Speaker 4: overall good? And the draft history since twenty ten says
Speaker 4: if you take a defender in the top three, you're
Speaker 4: probably more likely to get Pro Bowls, playoff wins, all
Speaker 4: these other things than the second quarterback off the board.
Speaker 4: Those drafts don't have anything to do with this draft,
Speaker 4: but I think there's a case to be made.
Speaker 1: As a reminder, they have the twelfth overall pick from
Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson trade. That's the Browns pick, So if
Speaker 1: they wanted to trade back up, they're not far away.
Speaker 1: And if they wanted to wait and take the first
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the board, for instance, they could probably
Speaker 1: do that too, because they need a lot of help
Speaker 1: at wide receiver too.
Speaker 3: Right Brandon Cooks was moved into trade, so that is now,
Speaker 3: of course, and we were talking about it last week
Speaker 3: with Eric Edholm. The wide receiver class, there's definitely talent
Speaker 3: here is their first round talent.
Speaker 1: You could take Smith and Jigba there wouldn't be crazy.
Speaker 1: Maybe you could take Anthony Richardson in there, who knows
Speaker 1: who they would like as their number two.
Speaker 3: If I'm a Texans fan, who I'm dying for that?
Speaker 3: Like Commanders fans are rejoicing because they feel like the
Speaker 3: future now gets to begin and it's bright. And with
Speaker 3: Houston Texans fans, you know, ever since Watson said I
Speaker 3: wanted to be traded then all the scandal broke, it's
Speaker 3: just been a dark cloud over this organization. And if
Speaker 3: they went through a second straight draft cycle with a
Speaker 3: premium pick and said, no, we're not taking the quarterback,
Speaker 3: I don't think that happens. Right, This doesn't end with
Speaker 3: them not having a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 1: No, because Davis Mills is still their quarterback. They never
Speaker 1: did sign a veteran, so has to They need edge players,
Speaker 1: like that's what I mean. They need defensive linemen. No,
Speaker 1: they need a center. I mean they still have one
Speaker 1: of the worst rosters in the league.
Speaker 3: At really a point, they have the artillery to get
Speaker 3: creative and move around the first round board and get
Speaker 3: maybe that big pass rusher and get a quarterback in
Speaker 3: the middle of the round or in the top ten.
Speaker 4: Still you can get back into the back into the
Speaker 4: top ten and like you're not taking will Levis number
Speaker 4: two overall, but you can feel better about that at
Speaker 4: seven or eight.
Speaker 3: Or even nine, they are in the they are in
Speaker 3: the cat birds seat to be? Is that what it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What do we call it that?
Speaker 3: It's a weird term. I'm not going to use it
Speaker 3: ever again. To come out of Thursday night as a
Speaker 3: big winner because they could have a quarterback people are
Speaker 3: really intrigued by. And then the top wide receiver on
Speaker 3: the board and everybody's like, oh, yeah, the Texans are
Speaker 3: doing things unless they overthink things. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 3: Spin it good start, good start.
Speaker 1: Speaking of and these are all totally random.
Speaker 3: That is interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm sure apparently we could try to put our finger
Speaker 1: on the scale. Justin gave us that option, strangely off Mic,
Speaker 1: which was bizarre.
Speaker 4: This establishment would do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was offended that Justin would even give us
Speaker 3: the option to to kind of betray our listeners in
Speaker 3: such a man.
Speaker 1: He was like, if you really need one team that
Speaker 1: needs to come up, I could like move it up.
Speaker 1: Because he pre did all this.
Speaker 3: It's like, what.
Speaker 6: It is random the order, but we could play with
Speaker 6: the order.
Speaker 1: Because it's like it's it's it's all legit like the democracy.
Speaker 1: But if you wanted, we could stuff the ballot box.
Speaker 3: I mean, I give you an idea for a social
Speaker 3: video that involves the producer prominently, because I know our
Speaker 3: producers like that. A clip of right before we started
Speaker 3: having when you have that conversation and then this conversation
Speaker 3: during the show itself.
Speaker 6: Okay, that sounds like a pretty good note of that,
Speaker 6: and I think that would be.
Speaker 1: Again, you do like to put little clips up of
Speaker 1: when we mess up, when we step into it.
Speaker 3: It's time.
Speaker 6: The intro of this show that didn't get taped will
Speaker 6: probably be on social media.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, what content, I mean the listeners. What a joy
Speaker 3: to have our hard working team always delivering the dagger.
Speaker 3: The Washington Commanders is where that wheel landed. So we
Speaker 3: just talked about this team that has been revitalized by
Speaker 3: the report. And it's not official, official, but it appears
Speaker 3: to be official, not official, but it appears to be
Speaker 3: happening that Daniel Snyder is finally out of the picture
Speaker 3: after twenty five tumultuous years. The Commanders have needs Patrick,
Speaker 3: They need a quarterback right That to me is at
Speaker 3: the top of the list. But some people don't think that.
Speaker 3: Some people think Sam how is a guy to get
Speaker 3: behind here. Well, when you go back and you consider
Speaker 3: the way that we felt in that because it was
Speaker 3: the very game in twenty twenty two, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Sam Howell, why didn't we get this earlier? But then
Speaker 3: you look at the numbers, it's like this was just
Speaker 3: Carson Wentz and Taylor Heineke lowering our expectations to an
Speaker 3: extent where we feel comfortable saying this. It's tough to
Speaker 3: project like what Sam Howell is going to be because
Speaker 3: there was a point where people thought he could be
Speaker 3: going number one in the draft and that ultimately didn't happen.
Speaker 3: But between Howell and Jacoby Brissett, like you get at
Speaker 3: least some way that we're going to see what Eric
Speaker 3: b enemy's offense looks like, and you get this idea
Speaker 3: because I think the biggest change besides ownership possibly changing
Speaker 3: was the enemy coming in and it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: we're going to at least see what this offensive group
Speaker 3: can be capable of, considering the talent they have on
Speaker 3: the outside. But you would feel better if there was
Speaker 3: a quarterback plan.
Speaker 1: Wait, I think it's a need but all reporting indicates
Speaker 1: they don't think it's a need. They're sixteenth overall. I've
Speaker 1: seen some trade up scenarios with them. They don't seem
Speaker 1: like the team that's going to do that. Their rosters
Speaker 1: is the type of roster you'd expect from a mid
Speaker 1: level team. They actually don't have a lot of screaming
Speaker 1: huge needs. The thing I came up with was actually
Speaker 1: defensive line, which is what they're known for. But they
Speaker 1: you know, Ron Rivera has not gotten any of his
Speaker 1: own guys since he's gotten there. They really haven't. All
Speaker 1: their best players were there with the previous regime. Chase
Speaker 1: Young's gonna be either in a fifth year option, we'll
Speaker 1: see if that's picked up, or it's the final year
Speaker 1: of his deal. Deron Pain's on a one year contract.
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat I think is on the at the end
Speaker 1: of his deal too. Jonathan Allen's been there forever. But
Speaker 1: they need to start finding like their own guys. Their
Speaker 1: thin upfront and at a cornerback. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: that disappoints me a little bit about Rivera in Mayhew
Speaker 1: Here it's like they've gotten it done and they've been respectable,
Speaker 1: but they haven't really brought in a lot of players
Speaker 1: since they got there in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there, you could look at their the
Speaker 3: back end of their defense as well. Cornerback profiles is
Speaker 3: a need as well. You know, I just are they
Speaker 3: really gonna do that? Are they going to go into
Speaker 3: this brand new, this bright new horizon era of the
Speaker 3: team with Brissett and with a fifth round pick? That
Speaker 3: would just surprise me if they come out of the
Speaker 3: draft night, like.
Speaker 1: If Richardson fell, like, they're a team that's a perfect.
Speaker 3: Example of a guy that they would be. Everyone be like,
Speaker 3: we have a new owner, we have this exciting quarterback
Speaker 3: with all this great skill set, Like, look at us, now,
Speaker 3: we could be anything.
Speaker 1: If one of the quarterbacks really falls past twelve or whatever,
Speaker 1: are they a team that could move up a couple
Speaker 1: spots or wait until he gets the sixteen.
Speaker 4: Maybe that may be the most likely scenario because let's
Speaker 4: say that at corner right, they're in a spot where
Speaker 4: they can try to move up into the top ten.
Speaker 4: If Christian Gonzales is there, say at nine.
Speaker 1: Man moving for cornerbacks is tough though, but it's what
Speaker 1: the team needs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, if we're if we're skipping past quarterback and saying, well,
Speaker 4: how can we get the best team that we can
Speaker 4: this year? We get a cornerback in the nine to
Speaker 4: twelve range, not staying and waiting at sixteen. But if
Speaker 4: that's the case, if he's if he's still there, it
Speaker 4: means those quarterbacks most likely were already gone, right, And
Speaker 4: so then if you don't like the quarterback, like why
Speaker 4: reach for one just because you need to satisfy a
Speaker 4: position need like twenty twenty four exists?
Speaker 3: You know, Like, I don't know sure, and it should
Speaker 3: be stated. We talked about this. I think it was
Speaker 3: last week early last week that Ron Rivera was on
Speaker 3: record saying, you know, their hands are a little bit
Speaker 3: tied right now with decision making until they know who
Speaker 3: they're answering to, Like, would that take them out of
Speaker 3: a decision as big as drafting a quarterback in the
Speaker 3: first round? Would they because of the unrest or the uncertainty?
Speaker 3: Would they go more meat and potatoes in this draft?
Speaker 1: Well? And thinking like what can help us this year
Speaker 1: right now? Save our jobs? Who can play right away?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's weird that there they're linemen, that
Speaker 1: none of them are signed long long term other than now,
Speaker 1: and then they didn't draft any of them. They could
Speaker 1: they could use another strength.
Speaker 3: You're disappointed in Ron because you think that's something he
Speaker 3: would be.
Speaker 1: I just look it. It's just weird to me that
Speaker 1: if you look at their team, you hate running the
Speaker 1: best players. They struggled in the GM exercise because their
Speaker 1: best players were all brought in before they all got there.
Speaker 3: Tough, toughy, all right. It spin the wheel.
Speaker 4: I like it so spin in the middle of the wheel.
Speaker 3: That's a graver touch.
Speaker 1: Watch check us out on YouTube. We're really hitting the hits,
Speaker 1: playing the hits here at the top.
Speaker 3: And you did not justin manipulate it in any way.
Speaker 6: Zero percent manipula I would I would never.
Speaker 3: Say that you would. In my heart, I know who
Speaker 3: you are. But once you introduced that conversation earlier, it
Speaker 3: does the seed of doubt is planted. Let's let's be honest,
Speaker 3: like that's understandable, and it's not like you're trying to
Speaker 3: do the best show possible, just like the rest of us.
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't I wouldn't even see it to something dastardly.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, you gotta asked the question.
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm a little concerned.
Speaker 6: I promised this process was one hundred percent random, and.
Speaker 1: We'll know that if the Titans are brought up at all,
Speaker 1: that's telling that where did just land?
Speaker 3: Sorry the Bears the Bears.
Speaker 1: Extra second round pick, but that's it. They don't have
Speaker 1: some I have some idea that they have like this
Speaker 1: huge surplused picks, but not really extra second, extra fourth,
Speaker 1: extra fi.
Speaker 3: What are the Bears need? What are we talking about
Speaker 3: with the Bears? They obviously have their quarterback, So now
Speaker 3: you're looking at a team the defense needs a lot
Speaker 3: of work, right.
Speaker 1: They are sort of like, to me, the team that
Speaker 1: needs to have the most meat and potatoes draft. They
Speaker 1: might have the worst offensive line defensive line combination in
Speaker 1: the league, especially defensive line, whether it's edge or defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Like they're almost starting from scratch. They have guys on
Speaker 1: the offensive line and they're not like the worst, but
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of guys that you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would like to have a guy better than that guy.
Speaker 1: So it's not as huge a need, but it just
Speaker 1: feels like that's why they were comfortable moving down. I
Speaker 1: think they have kind of like the outside pieces. But
Speaker 1: they need just like a ton of big smelly linemen.
Speaker 3: Why can't they groom themselves properly?
Speaker 1: Well, if you're a bigger player, you're just more likely
Speaker 1: to eat and sweat.
Speaker 4: And I feel like Peter Skronsky smells just fine and
Speaker 4: he's gonna that's I have a long career side product.
Speaker 3: If the big men inside ever heard you say that,
Speaker 3: they would take exception to it.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that video, did you see, Jeff Schwartz
Speaker 1: I think was part of it. Sent out with the
Speaker 1: offensive linemen all ate as much as they could in
Speaker 1: one meal. I think there were a bunch of prospects
Speaker 1: to see who could put on the most weight in
Speaker 1: one meal, and it varied. They went out for like
Speaker 1: you know, steaks and whatnot. Sure one guy didn't gain anything.
Speaker 1: The rest of them all were between five and twelve
Speaker 1: pounds in one meal. One guy I think got up
Speaker 1: to it to eleven pounds and one meal.
Speaker 4: How did the one guy not gain?
Speaker 3: These guys sharing a hotel.
Speaker 1: Room because he because he didn't make it through the
Speaker 1: rough one, he didn't make it through the whole meal
Speaker 1: without having to use the bathroom.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the data is incomplete.
Speaker 3: That's a rough one. I actually.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that has to do with smelly,
Speaker 1: but the bathrooms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't want to, yeah, go down that
Speaker 3: rabbit hole, that hole at all. But like I've always
Speaker 3: I've wondered about, like the competitive eaters, like what happens
Speaker 3: in that realm? Like how quickly is that addressed? And
Speaker 3: at what level? Like what are we talking?
Speaker 4: I would say within thirty minutes, it's probably.
Speaker 3: And like what are we talking? Like what's going on?
Speaker 4: Non traditional means?
Speaker 1: But so Ian eleven pounds is crazy going from like
Speaker 1: three he was one guy went from three eleven to
Speaker 1: three twenty two.
Speaker 3: But you're not really what we're saying is you're not
Speaker 3: referring to body odor. You're more like, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just a little bit everything. But yeah, if
Speaker 1: here are there, here's their starting defensive line on paper.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't even know who who would be, but
Speaker 1: Justin Jones, Andrew Billings, DeMarcus Walker, Trevis Gibson, maybe throwing
Speaker 1: a Rashim Green Like that's four spots you would want
Speaker 1: to improve.
Speaker 3: It's a reminder that they lost relentlessly yah last season
Speaker 3: to get the number one overall pick and the need.
Speaker 1: Team and the offensive line is like they have guys
Speaker 1: they know and they're okay, but they could all be
Speaker 1: a little.
Speaker 4: Better, and the needs aren't necessarily as bad because having
Speaker 4: the quarterback right convinces you that things aren't as bad
Speaker 4: as they could be. Like if you we put Justin
Speaker 4: Fields on the Houston Texans, we feel completely different about
Speaker 4: the state and direction of the franchise, and so it's
Speaker 4: not as bad as it was. But I think at nine,
Speaker 4: right when we're talking about what they do coming up
Speaker 4: here in a week and change, I think it's literally,
Speaker 4: I really it's a cliche, but the best player available.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if they reach for alignment just
Speaker 4: because like it's a particular team need.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good we're here, it's a pretty good offensive
Speaker 3: lineman class.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're a spot at nine where they
Speaker 1: could either take the top tackle or maybe it's like
Speaker 1: the second or third edge player.
Speaker 3: I think I think you're right, though, Greg. I think
Speaker 3: this will be seen as like the Bears look to
Speaker 3: the trenches to build around Justin Fields and to improve
Speaker 3: that defense. That's where we see this one going. All right,
Speaker 3: what else, let's see what it? What has been random thing?
Speaker 4: It feels like Jets.
Speaker 3: It is the New York Jets. How about that. I
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with this. This is completely random,
Speaker 3: so don't take it out on me. The New York Jets, well,
Speaker 3: I guess they don't need a quarterback. Probably we don't
Speaker 3: know for sure, but probably not. I think with the Jets,
Speaker 3: you're looking at Corey Davis is still there, which is
Speaker 3: kind of interesting because I think it was a foregune
Speaker 3: conclusion that they were going to move him. They were
Speaker 3: very interested in Odell. I'm glad they didn't pay for Odell.
Speaker 3: I was. I was happy how that turned out. But
Speaker 3: I don't see them necessarily out at wide receiver. But
Speaker 3: I think that the top of the draft, and let's
Speaker 3: see where they at. They're at thirteen thirteen. I think
Speaker 3: that is going to be an offensive lineman. I think
Speaker 3: they are going to put focus at that spot and
Speaker 3: continue to hit it hard. Because Joe d for all
Speaker 3: his talk and everything you hear about offensive line with
Speaker 3: that team or the trenches and coming from the Eagles
Speaker 3: model of how to build a team, they still don't
Speaker 3: have a very good offensive line. And if they like it,
Speaker 3: guy there I think that's where you're going to see
Speaker 3: a pick. Here a tackle.
Speaker 1: You have Makai Beck and Andwayne Brown. It's like between
Speaker 1: those two could count on one of them. Maybe one
Speaker 1: of you also need a center. Maybe you're okay at guard,
Speaker 1: but yeah, a tackle edge. You know, I know Carl
Speaker 1: Lawson is still there at least for another year. They
Speaker 1: took Jermaine Johnson last year was okay, but I think
Speaker 1: they could want an edge player.
Speaker 4: And there's no problem with There's no problem with having depth.
Speaker 4: Like let's say it's a it's a Paris Johnson junior
Speaker 4: to that pick by the Jets, and then you get
Speaker 4: healthy Dwayne Brown right and healthy Big Ticket. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: is that the worst problem in the world. If you
Speaker 4: have guys that you can move around in depth of
Speaker 4: the position, I think it's no.
Speaker 1: It's planning ahead, like doing this exercise going through all
Speaker 1: these rosters. I'm going to be doing, oh, what's it
Speaker 1: called projected starters coming out It's like the roster the
Speaker 1: Jets are in one of the nice positions where it's like, actually,
Speaker 1: you should be planning ahead at some of these positions,
Speaker 1: like edge tackle. It's a little bit of planning ahead,
Speaker 1: like they don't have a lot of screaming needs. It's
Speaker 1: screaming when you see Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle as QV
Speaker 1: one and two. Yes, but that should be that should
Speaker 1: be for harrowing screams.
Speaker 3: And maybe yeah, maybe we talked about a little bit
Speaker 3: last show. Maybe the Rogers thing finally gets settled draft weekend,
Speaker 3: That would be nice. But I really do think that
Speaker 3: is it's it's blinking right in front of the Jets
Speaker 3: to go continue to build out that line because you're
Speaker 3: probably gonna have like a thirty nine year old quarterback there,
Speaker 3: and you want to have some depth as well, because
Speaker 3: they got killed by injuries on their line last year
Speaker 3: as well. So got spin it, spin it a little leg,
Speaker 3: a little lag on it, the tech, a little lag
Speaker 3: on the tech there, justin we'll address that. Was that
Speaker 3: a producer issue or more just the video.
Speaker 6: That was a thing I could replace for the YouTube
Speaker 6: no one would ever know, but now might as well
Speaker 6: keep it.
Speaker 1: Kind of like like when wet us up at you know,
Speaker 1: starting a show, like no one would ever know it,
Speaker 1: but right but now they send it out on so.
Speaker 3: Everyone needs to see it exactly the comedy of errors
Speaker 3: that is doing our podcast. The Cleveland Browns are up next. Okay,
Speaker 3: what do we got with the Cleveland Browns?
Speaker 1: Nobody takes another team up front. I think like they
Speaker 1: signed Dalvin Tomlinson at a defensive tackle who I think
Speaker 1: will play a lot for them. Was a nice signing,
Speaker 1: but that was one of the worst positions maybe in football.
Speaker 1: Last year was Brown's defensive tackle and so they still
Speaker 1: need another guy they drafted. Actually a year ago, perry
Speaker 1: On Winfrey was arrested for domestic abuse, I believe since
Speaker 1: we last taped, So I don't think he's going to
Speaker 1: be in the mix. The Browns just can't get away
Speaker 1: from these off the field stuff and edge the guy
Speaker 1: across from Miles Garrett. I know they signed agbo Okoronka,
Speaker 1: who I kind of like, but I think defensive lineman.
Speaker 4: It could be it could be a reunion right that
Speaker 4: we couldn't make things work with and Clowney, but apparently
Speaker 4: that is no.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happenedship definitely.
Speaker 3: So how about the wide receiver group, Yeah, like we
Speaker 3: like Cooper a lot. Elijah Moore was a smart move,
Speaker 3: but still a guy that has not proven in the league.
Speaker 3: People's Jones.
Speaker 1: People's Jones had a nice season. You can probably be
Speaker 1: any Schwartz, you'd probably be happier. No player has profiled
Speaker 1: any different than his than Tony Schwartz.
Speaker 3: Then, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Are you saying you're expecting something different from Tony Schwartz.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's all speed. No, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: Tony Schwartz hasn't done it yet.
Speaker 3: I need more than speed, I guess, But I'm looking
Speaker 3: at the rest of that room. Yeah, they could a
Speaker 3: wide receiver, like you know, and you are not as
Speaker 3: high on a general the general manager as I am.
Speaker 3: I guess, but I wouldn't be surprised that they come
Speaker 3: at it with a nice value add in the wide
Speaker 3: receiver room. I think they stay.
Speaker 1: Two People's Jones, will his contract will come up. It's
Speaker 1: planning ahead. It's they're defense probably needs more work.
Speaker 3: Defense was bad last year.
Speaker 1: But you're right. This this exercise is like you go through.
Speaker 1: Almost every team could use a receiver and a cornerback
Speaker 1: because you kind of need four of both now and
Speaker 1: the rules have changed. It's like very few teams have
Speaker 1: a good four.
Speaker 4: They'd really have to hit a home run. Considering that
Speaker 4: another team is making their first round pick, so it's like,
Speaker 4: where are we getting the upgrade over DPJ at wide receiver?
Speaker 4: Like you're going to need somebody to Really, it's.
Speaker 1: A deep one. It is a deep draft. But you're right.
Speaker 1: What are their draft picks this year? The Browns have
Speaker 1: two fours, two fives, but otherwise they're they're taking their
Speaker 1: their first after round one, two picks in the top
Speaker 1: onety second and ninety eight.
Speaker 4: Right, hope was if that quarterback can't play, decidedly not
Speaker 4: worth it.
Speaker 3: It's going to be real bad if you can't play, spin.
Speaker 2: It, Greggy.
Speaker 3: The New England Patriots, Yes, their draft picks are let's
Speaker 3: see what we got. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: start doing this a little late into the exercise. But
Speaker 3: they are fourteenth overall and then they pick forty sixth
Speaker 3: overall in the second round. They have a third round pick,
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick, two fourth round picks, Okay, three
Speaker 3: fourth round picks. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I gotta say the roster is like not bad. They're
Speaker 1: kind of like they don't have a ton of screaming
Speaker 1: like capital end needs tackle I would say is one
Speaker 1: of them. It's not like a lot of fun. Their
Speaker 1: defensive line is older and not great. They certainly could
Speaker 1: use a cornerback. They could use one of those nice
Speaker 1: pass catching tight ends. That's what I would like. I
Speaker 1: know they have Hunter Henry, but in the first round.
Speaker 1: Now on something splashy. Yeah, I mean Hunter Henry's give
Speaker 1: me one more year of him and I'm good. So
Speaker 1: let's take a guy you can have for five years.
Speaker 4: What about what about Darnell Washington? Too early to take him?
Speaker 1: That seems like a Patriots type of pick. But I
Speaker 1: would be more into like the Dalton kincad of it all.
Speaker 3: I did. I like the tight end. I was thinking that.
Speaker 3: I didn't mention it for the Jets either, but I
Speaker 3: think they would make sense for a tight end. We
Speaker 3: keep on hearing what a great tight end class this is.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you got Koseki there as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots have four receivers. I think they
Speaker 1: are comfortable playing Devonte Parker, Kendrick Bourne, Juju and Taekwon Thornton.
Speaker 4: Are they comfortable playing Kendrick Bourne? Like, does Bill want
Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne on the field if he.
Speaker 1: Was in the doghouse? But that is something that they
Speaker 1: do is take guys out of the doghouse. He's still
Speaker 1: in the roster, and to me, he might be their
Speaker 1: best receiver. So that's a problem, so that they could
Speaker 1: be looking at receiver too. But I don't I don't
Speaker 1: trust them knowing them though. They're gonna take some small
Speaker 1: They're either gonna take like a trade, They're gonna trade
Speaker 1: down and take some random guard. They'll take like an
Speaker 1: undersized small school cornerback that no one was expecting to
Speaker 1: go and annoy everyone. Yeah, it's like, like, oh is
Speaker 1: he under five nine? Go for it?
Speaker 3: I know. But that all that that glory day stuff
Speaker 3: when you had Brady leading the whole show. Like, you
Speaker 3: know what the roster is the as the kids say,
Speaker 3: pretty mid when you look at it. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 3: kind of like kind of Washington where it's not bad. Yes,
Speaker 3: they need some difference makers and not just some scatback
Speaker 3: out of you know, our Lady of the Hopeless Miracle.
Speaker 1: In their defense, here are some players they've drafted over
Speaker 1: the last two years. Guys they can kind of build
Speaker 1: her on. Cole Strange thought he played pretty well as
Speaker 1: a rookie. In the end, Mac Jones will see Ramandre
Speaker 1: Stevenson bar Moore, nice player, Jack Jones, nice player, Marcus
Speaker 1: Jones nice player. They actually you know, ZAPPI, we'll see
Speaker 1: talk into it, young player. If you can get three,
Speaker 1: if you get three good years of drafts in a row,
Speaker 1: and I would say they've had two in a row,
Speaker 1: then you could be yeah there.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Mac Jones gets traded. By the way, he's a
Speaker 3: fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: Patrick, He's looking like a at worst, the good backup
Speaker 1: they have. They're good at drafted backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's a way. Thursday night comes and we we hear
Speaker 3: Mac Jones's in your backup rink.
Speaker 1: He's got potential and he played pretty well in his
Speaker 1: two games.
Speaker 3: What about that Mac traded On draft night? They draft
Speaker 3: a quarterback and then Bailey gets to compete for the
Speaker 3: starting job week one while the kid learns and develops.
Speaker 3: Any chance.
Speaker 1: Well, I have to admit it took me until this
Speaker 1: last weekend to finally watch Anthony Richardson, and my god,
Speaker 1: I mean, give me some of that.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 1: How could that not work? Someone with that pocket presence
Speaker 1: and that athleticism, he's a real quarterback. Let's let's draft
Speaker 1: him and trade Mac over to the Ravens.
Speaker 3: All right, I left that. I'm sure that's what Odell
Speaker 3: Beckham signed up for. Paul's right there, everybody, We're gonna
Speaker 3: spin the wheel some more, but first a word from
Speaker 3: our sponsors. All right, spin the wheel. We almost got
Speaker 3: the Browns again, no duplicates, tough on, we got the
Speaker 3: what Carolina Panthers? Yes, all right?
Speaker 4: So what do you do around Bryce Young? Is? I
Speaker 4: think if Peter King has said it, then by god,
Speaker 4: it's got to be the case, right.
Speaker 3: What are you taking? Shout to King?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 3: No, everyone detected sarcasm.
Speaker 4: There, No. The access that Peter King have has definitely
Speaker 4: supersedes mine. I'm not gonna come out.
Speaker 1: And they are saying a lot of like everyone around
Speaker 1: the league believes it's you know Young, now that it
Speaker 1: depends on the situation of the team. It's like I
Speaker 1: also saw everyone around the league believes that Seahawks are
Speaker 1: taking Jalen Carter. But since when has everyone around the
Speaker 1: league known what the hell the Seahawks are going to do.
Speaker 1: They're the most unpredictable teams, so you don't know if
Speaker 1: that's right. But yes, what else would you get with
Speaker 1: Bryce Young? You need a receiver?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you definitely do, considering you traded your best receiver
Speaker 4: away to get the quarterback. So it's it's a gift
Speaker 4: exchange gone wrong if you don't do that, and so
Speaker 4: the they're still there, that they can still come back
Speaker 4: and maybe get a Jackson Smith in Jigba early on.
Speaker 4: If it's if it's one of those needs based things,
Speaker 4: like if you would feel better at fourteen then than
Speaker 4: in the top ten, well just just go ahead and
Speaker 4: make the pick.
Speaker 3: They have the first pick overall, of course, then they
Speaker 3: pick two picks in the third what one pick in
Speaker 3: the second round? Thirty nine overall, and then they have
Speaker 3: a third round pick from the Niners.
Speaker 4: They can pack fourth round picks, they can package those.
Speaker 1: I feel like so this draft there, it's such a
Speaker 1: deep receiver draft, like a lot. I think there's a
Speaker 1: thought there's not a huge difference between like wide receiver
Speaker 1: three and wide receiver twelve that at thirty nine, I
Speaker 1: have a feeling there's gonna be some good players on
Speaker 1: the board and they're going to be looking offense because
Speaker 1: right now their top three receivers are Terriss Marshall, DJ Shark,
Speaker 1: and Adam Thielin This is as clear.
Speaker 3: As it gets for me so far though this exercise,
Speaker 3: Like what are the two needs for this team? QB
Speaker 3: wide receiver? Like is there another position that really stands
Speaker 3: out that they would out with their first couple?
Speaker 1: Now they signed Shy Tuttle and there's not a lot there.
Speaker 1: There's Eric Brown, you know, but they're pretty stacked on
Speaker 1: defense in general.
Speaker 4: So it's all often a team that's really hit on
Speaker 4: their first round picks for a long time, Like they
Speaker 4: haven't had a lot of misses in the first round,
Speaker 4: going back, you can go back before Cam.
Speaker 1: They actually have a good offensive line on paper. It's
Speaker 1: a different system about that. Yeah, they've been Panthers first
Speaker 1: round a lot of singles and doubles. I would say
Speaker 1: guys like.
Speaker 3: You for singles in the first round.
Speaker 1: I mean you want guys like Dj Moore. I think
Speaker 1: that's a solid line drive double, but you just traded him.
Speaker 3: Let's see Cam Kanwu j C.
Speaker 1: Horn Kanwe looks like we'll see.
Speaker 3: Derek Brown, Brian Burns, Dj Moore, Christian McCaffrey. That since
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, pretty much, no no misses. Con was too
Speaker 1: early to say.
Speaker 4: I mean the streak right of guys who've gone to
Speaker 4: at least one Pro Bowl Shaq Thompson, Vernon Butler, CMC,
Speaker 4: DJ Moore, Brian.
Speaker 1: Burns, Vernon Butler. That was a miss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, never mind thirtieth overall twenty sixteen. I stopped at
Speaker 3: twenty seven to help your point.
Speaker 4: But I mean, if if we're go back, you brought
Speaker 4: him in, Jonathan Sewart, Camper, I mean, come on, Kelvin Benjamin,
Speaker 4: I'll give it to you.
Speaker 1: But they're going to be super motivated though, to have
Speaker 1: a good offense around, Like they're gonna want to give
Speaker 1: Bryce young as if that's him or whoever the quarterback is,
Speaker 1: and Frank Raig, who's an offensive coach, as much of
Speaker 1: a chance as possible.
Speaker 3: Dang Yeah, Going Cam and Keigley back to back in
Speaker 3: eleven to twelve set that organization up. They want to
Speaker 3: do it again. Now, spin it spin spin, spin, spin,
Speaker 3: no glitches, no glitches, got the smooth turn. The Los
Speaker 3: Angeles football Rams Matthew Stafford came out, by the way,
Speaker 3: he was interviewed somewhere and said, listen, not a kid anymore,
Speaker 3: my bod. But I'm all right, don't count me out. No,
Speaker 3: I can still sling it and I'm ready to play
Speaker 3: for the Rams. It appears they.
Speaker 1: Still don't have a first round draft pick. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: tough still and they're there next year.
Speaker 3: They will potentially right next year.
Speaker 1: They do have two thirds because they got the Rams.
Speaker 1: They're a little disappointing, and they have three compensatory fifths,
Speaker 1: but it's thirty sixth overall. It's it's like they're saying, like,
Speaker 1: now we're more focused on the draft, but it's like
Speaker 1: you don't actually have that many draft picks, so they
Speaker 1: they could trade down. They they don't have any cornerbacks
Speaker 1: right now, and that that whole idea of like, well,
Speaker 1: they're not as going to be as injured this year
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. If you look their offensive line
Speaker 1: is still looks pretty terrible. On the interior, it's like
Speaker 1: the same guys that weren't good before. So that those
Speaker 1: are two positions.
Speaker 4: It's wild to have a one of the better offensive
Speaker 4: players in the entire league and then Matt Stafford coming
Speaker 4: back and what could conceivably feel like a rebuild on
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball, where it's especially in the secondary.
Speaker 4: We don't even know so rap's gone between between him
Speaker 4: and and Ramsey, like there was so much moving and
Speaker 4: shaking in the secondary anyway that like, what's the plan?
Speaker 1: They have no pass rush either, so like that secondary
Speaker 1: is gonna have to hold up. Our friend Jordan Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: basically reading between the line's been saying like they're almost
Speaker 1: punting defenses here. So I think they're gonna go as
Speaker 1: hard as that. Well, no, I think they're gonna go
Speaker 1: as hard as they can on offense in the draft.
Speaker 1: Maybe traded out They didn't. She definitely didn't say that,
Speaker 1: but it just feels like they think they they think
Speaker 1: they can have a great offense. Still they actually, you know,
Speaker 1: between cup.
Speaker 3: That's important you said that. Jordan didn't actually report that.
Speaker 3: She listens to the show. She's probably like Greg at all.
Speaker 1: But I just think they're focusing on offense and realizing
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to rely on coaching on defense, and
Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna be drafting offense too.
Speaker 3: Very good. All right, you want to do one more
Speaker 3: spin it, I'm gonna do twelve more in your mind.
Speaker 4: There they are.
Speaker 3: Hell the Detroit Lions. The twenty twenty two team of
Speaker 3: around the NFL. Love them Lions.
Speaker 1: Let's we got to make it twenty three to two.
Speaker 1: They're the most fun team in the draft, I think
Speaker 1: with six and eighteen because they don't have crazy huge
Speaker 1: needs and their needs feel like they're at God and
Speaker 1: they have two seconds too. Forty eight and fifty five.
Speaker 1: You know, the Rams like they would love to have
Speaker 1: the Lions. You know, pick if you're built rebuilding through
Speaker 1: the draft.
Speaker 3: This is a flashpoint moment for the Lions. They nail
Speaker 3: this draft. Look out, look the f out for Detroit.
Speaker 4: I can do some reporting here, let's hear it. Noted
Speaker 4: Lions fan and dear friend of our Cynthia Freeland. When
Speaker 4: she saw Buddha Baker requested a trade, she said, that's it.
Speaker 4: Go do it. Get on the phone right now and
Speaker 4: get Buddha to the Detroit Lions. So I'm gonna list
Speaker 4: safety as a need and say they can make that happen,
Speaker 4: because everything feels like icing on the cake at this
Speaker 4: point for this Lion's team.
Speaker 1: I think quarterback is not a screaming need, but is
Speaker 1: a need. So I think they have to be thinking
Speaker 1: about Richardson at six or if if someone fell at eighteen.
Speaker 1: I think tight end is indeed. Actually, you remember that
Speaker 1: guy brock Wright who got that one pass all season
Speaker 1: against the Giants. He's like, they're starting tight end, So
Speaker 1: they could take a tight end at eighteen perhaps, or
Speaker 1: use one, or use one of those second round picks.
Speaker 1: I think they could still add at cornerback. I know
Speaker 1: they sign a couple in free agency, but not a bit.
Speaker 3: They might like their tight end room though, because that
Speaker 3: was weird because Hockinson was a big lift I thought
Speaker 3: for Minnesota's offense, but Detroit's offense didn't really take a
Speaker 3: step back without him. I thought, yeah, maybe they're happy
Speaker 3: internally with what's going on.
Speaker 4: It was kind of a utilization thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they need one more like dynamic receiver, whether
Speaker 1: it's a wide out or a tight end. Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: have been excited about him. I'm on Ray Saint Brown.
Speaker 1: He's great, but the their next best receiver after that
Speaker 1: is who. I don't know. Marvin Jones is there, Josh Renno,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: I'm going full Jordan Rodrigue. I'm punting on offense. If
Speaker 3: I'm the Lions and I'm loading up they.
Speaker 1: Do, I'm going the other offense, okay.
Speaker 3: And I'm just built. I like that it's bringing Buddha.
Speaker 3: So we'll cover safety there via train its action. Maybe
Speaker 3: give up a draft pick. What are you gonna give
Speaker 3: up for Baker?
Speaker 1: You have two seconds you could if you gave If
Speaker 1: you gave up that second second for Baker, maybe even
Speaker 1: a third round pick for a Baker feeling good.
Speaker 4: Three, it's a little let's see if they move, little
Speaker 4: rich see if they blink.
Speaker 3: Let's make the offer, right, did you want to spend
Speaker 3: one more time or do we want to say goodbye?
Speaker 3: We're pretty deep into the.
Speaker 1: Show now, sounds like you want to say goodbye.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like this feels like the right time.
Speaker 1: You did it with the Lions.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Nine, it's a kind of a weird number, but who cares.
Speaker 3: We didn't that was our night. We got to do
Speaker 3: one more, right you? Yeah, he did it. Good job,
Speaker 3: justin good producing there. This could be the best moment
Speaker 3: of the show right now.
Speaker 1: No, we don't need talk. Wait, can we just spend
Speaker 1: it again? The Cardinals need a run, they need everything
Speaker 1: they need?
Speaker 3: All right, we did the car No, but we can't
Speaker 3: do eleven. Okay, we're gonna have to go to twenty then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's all coming to clarity. The Cardinals have
Speaker 4: their need. Their team need is a rudder and all
Speaker 4: of the requests for Kyler to be more mature have
Speaker 4: come into the They've come into clarity for me is
Speaker 4: because the things that they need a front office and
Speaker 4: team leadership to do, they would like to the quarterback
Speaker 4: to do it because they clearly have some issues.
Speaker 1: They have no they have no position. I would say
Speaker 1: that's not a need. They have two tackles that are
Speaker 1: like elder statesmen. I guess that's a future need. So
Speaker 1: maybe you don't need a tackle. They have no one
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, almost no one at cornerback.
Speaker 4: They need it all and they're about to trade their
Speaker 4: safety to the line.
Speaker 1: All right, I guess he did the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: Gas gass it up, gas up the chainsaw, grave digger.
Speaker 3: That's a good way to close things. This is what
Speaker 3: they need to do. Do you ever use a chansaw?
Speaker 4: I have, actually, after all that wind that came through,
Speaker 4: I used the chainsaw for the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you borrowed it from a neighbor, or yeah.
Speaker 4: Barred it from neighbor, tried to rent one, but there
Speaker 4: was so much wind damage all around that all of
Speaker 4: the rentals at multiple home depots were we're all out,
Speaker 4: everybody's renting chainsaws.
Speaker 3: Hm, Greg, I don't have to ask you. I don't
Speaker 3: think you're a chainsaw guy.
Speaker 1: Uh. No, that I had a little period where I
Speaker 1: would just like massacre young children all around the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: So that was a phase for me.
Speaker 6: I don't know about you want to use that for
Speaker 6: social too, all right, I'd rather cut it from this show.
Speaker 3: No, it must stay. Let's let's wrap things up there
Speaker 3: on on Kid Murder. We'll be back on Wednesday. And
Speaker 3: uh again, if you are ready for the Frank Ocean
Speaker 3: review that is on its way into your ears Wednesday,
Speaker 3: our second show. Three shows this week. Big announcement, big
Speaker 3: announcement Wednesday.
Speaker 1: That it's about our draft plans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big announcement Wednesday. Oh where are you gonna be?
Speaker 4: I think I kind of know.
Speaker 3: Are you in the building on draft night?
Speaker 4: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be covering a team or something like that.
Speaker 4: No, I may be like on standby.
Speaker 1: I'm on the bench right because we might need help
Speaker 1: because I'm going to jail for like three lifetimes now, right.
Speaker 3: Basically, every unsolved murder in the Los Angeles area for
Speaker 3: the past twenty years is now going to pin down Rosenthal.
Speaker 3: So we might need you Patrick, Okay, yeah yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 3: figure out big announcement regarding the NFL Draft on a
Speaker 3: Wednesday show. Until then, let's let's head out.
Speaker 1: I am absolutely excited about what's occurring.
Speaker 3: There. You go, that's important. Gotta be excited. Heed the call.