1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Every day is weekday. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 3: Just touch these cam from the Chris Westling podcast studio. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: It's Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis. I have 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Patrick Claven and if you are 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 3: a music then and you're tuning into this podcast for 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: the first time to hear Mark Sessler's boots on the 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: ground take on the Frank Ocean surprise set closer at 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: Coachella this weekend, we regret to inform you that he 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: is not here today. Tune back in Wednesday for those 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: takes on Ocean from Coachella. 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: Was Mark aware of Frank Ocean? Who Frank Ocean was 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: before this weekend? I don't know. Was he there? We'll 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: find out. 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 3: I was. There were a couple of Easter eggs there 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: on Instagram, including the shot in front of the wheel. 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: And once you see somebody's at Coachella, it's like the 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: shot in front of the big Ferris wheel. That's it. 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 4: That's the one that's like. 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Go if you go to Paris, you get the shot 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: in front of the Eiffel Tower, you do the Ferris 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: Ferris wheel. 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I've never been. I haven't been yet. 24 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 4: What it is it's literally a fairest. 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 3: We have a bunch of twenty somethings behind the glass, 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 3: like raise your hand if you've gotten a photo in 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: front of the ferris wheel. Go ahead, yeah stable, why 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: sheepish fly? Like stand on it? All right? So, how 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: was everybody great? 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: I'm glad that I was able to spend a little 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 4: extra time with you guys today. It was a solid 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: We were delayed and and we were able to have 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: discussions and fellowship and it was good. 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: And I appreciate somemwell who does the drop at the 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: beginning of the show, noticing the work I've done on 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: my cabs. I'm not jogging it like a pretty slow 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: pace or lazily biking for thirty minutes at a time 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: while I watched TV for nothing. It's for the babes, for. 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: The listening audience, and unfortunately we were sitting at desks. 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: Greg has cut off shorts very high on the quads 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: and then just those calves just bulging. What a piece 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: of work. 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: Not a very reactive muscle because you work them so much, 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: so it takes a lot. And Greg has clearly been 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: putting in good call, a lot good call. 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: I think said this podcast doesn't have sex appeal. I 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: thought we'd get seventy minutes on the Frank Ocean set today, 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: So I don't really have anything planned, but we'll try 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: to figure something out on the fly. Here today's show, 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: a star quarterback gets paid. The Cardinals continue to wrestle 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: with an unknown future, and this is fun. We've been 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: tinkering with some complicated and unique tech ahead of today's show. 53 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: Oh yes, we have no no no, no no no. 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: Oh Hi Dan, were you looking for me? 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no not you go away, go away. She 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: is reaching kind of clinger status. I wasn't expecting that. No, 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm referring to our patent wheel omatic Randomizer for a 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: chat today on team needs ahead of the twenty twenty 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: three NFL Draft, which Patrick begins Thursday night in Kansas City. 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that April twenty seventh. 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: You can catch Thursday night. 62 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can catch the coverage on NFL network. The 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: coverage is presented by Verizon. The twenty twenty three NFL 64 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: Draft is presented by bud Light. 65 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: You can tell Mary's been doing a lot of network shows. 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: How much money just went into your bank account as 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: you uttered those two zero Sponsorsday. Anyway, that's it. Before 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: we get into anything though, Let's do some news. 69 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: Hurts of the gun, Hurts. Let's time fakes. 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: He's back, he's looking deep. He wants a J. 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Brown and it's. 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Called for a touchdown. 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: Hey, J Brown, it's double coverage. It doesn't matter. He 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: throws the ball into an area where AJ Brown can 75 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 5: make the adjustment, and he's jocking around and he makes 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 5: that proper. 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: Adjustment to the football for a touchdown. He runs through. 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 5: Contact so well, forty five yards Mike. 79 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: Quick, Jalen Hurts, and yes, AJ Brown. Incredible chemistry they 80 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: displayed throughout the twenty twenty two season and that should 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: continue going forward. After the Eagles and Hurts that was 82 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: from the Super Bowl, of course, I should say, reached 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: agreement on a five year, two hundred and fifty five 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: million dollar extension that includes nearly one hundred and eighty 85 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: million guaranteed. The Eagles have confirmed Monday that a extension 86 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: is in place. The financials not, but they're out there. 87 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: It's the biggest contract in terms of average annual value 88 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: in NFL history. Deshaun Watson's two hundred and thirty million 89 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: dollar contract sign last year at the Browns is fully guaranteed. 90 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: That's still the biggest in terms of guaranteed money. But 91 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: Gregy Hurts also gets what he deserves, a ton of money, 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: a lot of guaranteed money. Not as much as the 93 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: other guy, but a ton and a no trade clause 94 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: he set up with the Eagles. Both sides figured. 95 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Out, Yeah, one hundred and ten million, fully guaranteed, one 96 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six guaranteed by next March in a 97 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: no trade clause, which is interesting. I think we get 98 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: into the money later, but to me, it's just like 99 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: one of the best development stories that we've seen over 100 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. To think where we were at 101 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: this point only one year ago, coming off that Bucks 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: playoff game where Todd Bowles cooked up the Eagles pretty good, 103 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: showed a lot of looks where the offensive line was confused. 104 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was confused. Oh can Jalen Hurts handle the blitz? Oh? 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: This Jalen Hurts story was nice that they ran a 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: lot in the second half of the year. Does that 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: really have legs? Can this guy really play quarterback? The 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: big question about Hurts coming into this year was can 109 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: he be a long term guy? The idea of him 110 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: being one of the best quarterbacks in the league, like 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: wasn't on anyone's mind. And his play in this season 112 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: was so good. I was, I think, as big a 113 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: Hurts fan as I could be, and yet I did 114 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: not expect him to be that good. He's one of 115 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: the most effective runners, and that was one of the 116 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: most effective running seasons in NFL history from a quarterback. 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: But the improvement he's made since his college tape when 118 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: he wasn't as good as a passer, to his rookie 119 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: year to second year to this year is awesome and 120 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: it's a great reminder with the draft coming in ten days, 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: how far from a finished product most of these players. 122 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: Are, literally, and it's one of the hardest things to 123 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 4: project is what somebody's going to be in two and 124 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: three years, and you just make the decision based off 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: of what they currently are. But all through his time 126 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: at Alabama and at Oklahoma, there was this pocket management 127 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: issue with Jalen and he would bail, he would bail, 128 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: and he would float out to his right, and people wondered, like, 129 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: how does that? How do we get rid of this? 130 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: And you saw it, as you mentioned, like in those 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: games where things would get tough. It was looking for 132 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: options that weren't there and giving up on the passing concepts, 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: and then that all just goes away, and he has 134 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: this twenty twenty three season, twenty twenty two season where it's, oh, well, 135 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: if the Eagles get decent play from Jalen Hurts, then 136 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: they're going to be really good. Well they got better 137 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: than that, and they were a play away from winning 138 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Yeah, And you could even pick and 139 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: choose which play that was, because there were any number 140 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: of them. And there's literally no more other case to make. 141 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: Even the people even like the weird win stands that 142 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: were still somehow existing towards the end of the twenty 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 4: twenty two season where even they can't argue that Jalen 144 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: Hurts is a quarterback that should be paid long term 145 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there is. Yeah, he's twenty four 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: years old. He's had one truly kind of transcendent MVP 148 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: level season. So you could say, oh, was there a 149 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: little bit of a gambling here, Well, I don't see it. 150 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: I think he showed on the biggest stage in the 151 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: Super Bowl at the end of a season in which 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: they went fourteen and one with him as the starter 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: that he is absolutely every bit the real deal. But 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: you never know, you never know how these guys age 155 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: and how injuries can change things. But if you're the Eagles, 156 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: this makes so much sense, even though it costs obviously 157 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: a lot and will change how they have to manage 158 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: their roster going forward. You trust this organization with Roshan 159 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: to be able to change how they do business. Now 160 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: they have this huge quarterback contract. Yeah, he's earned that. 161 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: He's earned that side of things, and I think you're 162 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: going to see with Joe Burrow coming up, justin Herbert 163 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: potentially coming up here, you might even see this contract 164 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: get quickly a leap frog in terms of the greatest 165 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: average year value and all that. But that doesn't mean 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: that this isn't a good contract. I think it's fair 167 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: for both sides. And then there's the Lamar side of it, guys, 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: which is this was a I just saw this actually 169 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: before we came up because we we're delayed. Have we 170 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: mentioned we were delayed before today's show. 171 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: It'll always be a mystery why we were delayed. 172 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: This from Jamison Hensley over at ESPN hurts his five 173 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: year contract extension with the Eagles is very similar to 174 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: the Lamar Jackson offer he turned down its September. According 175 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: to Schefter and mort total value really the total value 176 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 3: two fifty five b two fifty, Hurts two fifty five 177 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: and guaranteed for injury one seventy nine be one seventy five. 178 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: Do you see Patricks? 179 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: Okay? But get Hurts had one to ten guaranteed total 180 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: just saying they like to fuzz around with the math. 181 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: It was not like a a salary that was a 182 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: top like in terms of guarantees. It wasn't even close 183 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: to a top five quarterback so far in terms of 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: total guarantee. 185 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 3: Buddy. So do you think now that this deal is 186 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: done and you're seeing the next big contract post to 187 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Shaun Watson, that this opens the door for Lamar and 188 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: Eagles to go down a road that's like this contract. 189 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: Well, I think the clearest road, which was what we 190 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 4: saw after the Odell signing, was perhaps the Ravens are 191 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: willing to come up on what Lamar said, right was 192 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 4: three years, one thirty three, Like it's a baseline. 193 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: Right, So that would have been like forty two million 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: dollars a year, whereas Hurt's got fifty whatever. 195 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: And if you go off of the because the verbage, 196 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: which is what Greg was referencing, the verbage, it depends 197 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: on who you're talking to, because you get one seventy 198 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: nine in guarantees for Jalen Hurts, right, But what are 199 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: those guarantees if there's conditions on them? Are they actually guarantees? 200 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: But if we go off of one seventy nine over 201 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: five years, and that's thirty five million dollars a year 202 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: in guaranteed money for Jalen Hurts. If we go off 203 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: of that, it is thirty five a year, the number 204 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: that Lamar was looking for. I just wish that we 205 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: had concrete details when we're comparing and saying, oh, well, 206 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: these contracts are very similar. Will show me, like, show 207 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: me specifically where they're similar. And if we're talking about 208 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: the average annual value, that could be anything we can 209 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: tack on some years and I could give Greg six 210 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: hundred million dollars if we tack on the right structure, 211 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: But like, what's the what's the actual guarantee and is 212 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: if we don't know, then it's tough for me to 213 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: make a comparison. Because other quarterbacks have been paid since 214 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: the negotiation was Lamar started and that didn't do anything. 215 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: So I'm just confused as to why this would change 216 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 4: unless it changes what the Ravens are willing to offer, 217 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: and I don't. I don't think they've gotten close to 218 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: what Lamar wants. 219 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Right like, I think they're too totally separate issus. I 220 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: love that Jalen Hurts was really motivated to get this 221 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: deal done, and then the Eagles were too, and they 222 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: did it quietly in terms of just like handling it quickly. 223 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: They said they were going to get it done. They 224 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: got it done. Everyone's happy. Lamar it seems like totally 225 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: to the side and isn't going to be side. I mean, 226 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: isn't going to be affected at all, And that's fine, 227 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Like you want different things. He also, you know, Hurts 228 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: does it with a couple of years left on his contract, 229 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: so it's different in terms of leverage in terms of 230 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: like motivation, but the whole like guaranteed thing it does 231 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: sort of annoy me because it goes out there as 232 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: one seventy nine in total guarantees, but then quickly in 233 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: our article, no, it's one twenty six fully guaranteed by 234 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: March twenty twenty four. That's the real number to me, 235 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: and even then, like in theory, if something terrible happened 236 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: this year, he doesn't even know. 237 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: What that was the real guarantee of the Lamar Jackson one. 238 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Apparently it was three. We don't really know because we 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: never got the structures in that, but they said it 240 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: was three for one thirty three, and that was sort 241 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: of the whole deal that it was. That that's where 242 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: it started and got him mad. I don't know if 243 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: it's going to get him any closer. 244 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: But that was that was the number after years of negotiation, right, 245 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: and that was the number after the Deshaun contract. So 246 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: we don't ever know because there's the test tisking about 247 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: Lamar not holding out two years ago, and we don't 248 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: know what that offer was. 249 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: I get the sense Lamar's kind of cooler about all 250 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: this than maybe the outside is, and that he might 251 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: be okay just playing for the franchise tag and seeing 252 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: what happens next year. I mean, the whole Odell Beckham 253 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: thing makes you feel that, because Odell Beckham said at 254 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: his press conference, you know he's been in contact with Lamar, 255 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: and uh, I think he's feeling pretty good about it, or. 256 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 3: There's a sense of resignation at this point. I think 257 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: maybe he's this just isn't gonna happen. That there hasn't 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 3: been an offer on the on the market for him. 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: The Ravens obviously haven't budged from where they're at. So 260 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: what does he do at a certain point other than 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: what not play? 262 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, those are the options to situation. 263 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: I do think it's a It's interesting that like the 264 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: two times these types of contracts have gone the worst 265 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: since this last CBA happened, where Carson Wentz and Jared 266 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Goff and the Eagles weren't afraid at all. They they 267 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: believed in Hurts. I think the dude as much as 268 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the player. Obviously, they believe in him as a player. 269 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: Like they that didn't burn, They didn't feel burnt at 270 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: all by that experience and did a similarly like top 271 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: shelf type of contract for him and not worried about 272 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: building around him. E there's a lot of good play 273 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: around and making a lot of money too. 274 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: All right, moving on, do you guys want to head 275 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: to the Cardinal's nest? 276 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 277 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: Everything it survived. It's a very light structure, sound pretty heavy. 278 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 4: They weren't in there. 279 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: It was that the same tree justin Yeah, sorry, all 280 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: right anyway. ESPN's Adam Chapter reports that Cardinals safety Buddha 281 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: Baker has told the team, in fact, he told the 282 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: team back in February, that he wanted to be traded 283 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: unless he got a new contract that makes him the 284 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: highest paid safety in the league. He is in the 285 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: top ten right now in terms of I paid safety's 286 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: number seven to be exact. But he wants that big deal. 287 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: It's a rebuilding team obviously, as you can hear the 288 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: chainsaws out and in other Cardinals nest news, Nuke Hopkins 289 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: took to Twitter briefly to post a tweet that he 290 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: was not looking for a raise. That tweet mysteriously disappeared. 291 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: But with Hoppins or DeAndre Hopkins on the trade block, 292 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: we haven't heard anything yet. He obviously hasn't been moved yet. 293 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: Will he get it asked for a new contract. He's 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: still greg making a pretty good penny right now. He's 295 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: due to make nearly twenty million under his current deal. 296 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: For contrast on that, Odell just signed a deal that 297 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: was worth fifteen up to eighteen. Anyway, Hopkins still with 298 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. This feels like a draft weekend trade. I 299 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: kind of feel it. 300 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: I feel it too, and I think it's it's interesting 301 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: and important to note that, Look, this is triple sourced. 302 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Oh I mean no, not for me. This is on 303 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins's own personal Twitter account, and then he's quoted 304 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: as saying Hopkins doesn't want to raise, and then he 305 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: put dash nuke. So that's like from the Twitter account 306 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: Hopkins and Nuke. 307 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: It's another way to get to the three. 308 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that's this is about as verifiable as 309 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: as possible. 310 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: I mean, from a verified account. 311 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: I believe so, right, I think that's like fifth person, 312 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Hopkins doesn't want to trade, Nuke. It's from DeAndre Hopkins. 313 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: That's a new one. 314 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: That maybe a red flag that he signed it, like 315 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: maybe that's something somebody that hacked his account would do. 316 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: I'm just lowing that out there, and. 317 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: It doesn't It could just be a quote, right, because 318 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 4: he's quoting himself saying that Hopkins doesn't want to raise. 319 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: But I could quote myself saying that sure Patrick is 320 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: eight feet tall, right, just. 321 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: Like Greg is gonna get a six hundred million dollar count. 322 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: It was it was in quote form. Yeah, I'm maybe 323 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it seems more like, yeah, someone that doesn't 324 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: tweet a ton, But I think it trades happening. They 325 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: want to get rid of them. I mean they And 326 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: that was the agent saying, hey, what are you doing, bro? Yeah, 327 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: delete that tweet. We will try to get a raised 328 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: if we can. Probably won't be. 329 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: Able to do. You know, you're thirty one almost you 330 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 3: just got suspended for PDS and you know it's probably 331 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: not going to be easy to best your current contract. 332 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: But let's let's keep that as an option. 333 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: I think he is more likely to get traded than 334 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, although Buddha Baker, look, if the Cardinals just 335 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: want to like avoid all drama, like someone would give 336 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: him a new contract. 337 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: I believe could you not. 338 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: See a path for a full rebuild year considering that 339 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 4: there's going to be a significant portion non Kyler, right, 340 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: So it's just give boot over what you want. 341 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's just sad. If you're a Cardinals fan, 342 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: It's like, what more could you possibly get rid of? 343 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: They don't have much we have, we have our team 344 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: needs coming up, and it's like they need it all 345 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: but the one thing they didn't need was like a 346 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: dynamic safety. They've got one of the best and he 347 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: has two years left on his contract. Did you hear 348 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: By the way, Hopkins was on a podcast and he 349 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: was instructed on this podcast was the All Things Covered podcast, 350 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: and he said they asked him if you'd want to 351 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: join a team, and they sort of based on his 352 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: body language. He wasn't because he couldn't talk, but he 353 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: sort of like did it off body language and what happened, 354 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: and by body language, he sort of indicated he was 355 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: out on the AFCs, didn't really like the Pets or 356 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: Jets rather, but he would be in on the Bills 357 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: and he would be in on the Chiefs. So I 358 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: mean that it's just this is the part of the 359 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: off season we're at now. 360 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's get this deal done. I like the 361 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: idea of him in Kansas City. I'd be nice. 362 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 4: I think he likes it as well. 363 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Bill O'Brien issue would be an 364 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: issue for him. 365 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: Apparently, let's move to Minnesota or Quesciodolfo Mensa, the general 366 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: manager of the Vikings, held a press conference and he 367 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: was asked about Dalvin Cook Bowl running back and he 368 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: continued to use language that kind of kept the story paused. 369 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: That the conversations between the Vikings and the Cook camp 370 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: are ongoing. The team is trying to be this one's 371 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: ominous solutions oriented. Zadaria Smith, also a player that he 372 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: already weeks ago now tweeted his goodbye to Minnesota, but 373 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: he's still on the team and talks, according to the 374 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: GM or ongoing there as well. Patrick, the Vikings not 375 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: quite in the Cardinals boat by a long shot, to 376 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: be quite honest with you. They did go thirteen and 377 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: four last year, even if that was a little dressed up. Still, 378 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: this is a team that has a lot of stuff 379 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 3: to figure out if they are going to contend in 380 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: a meaningful way next year. 381 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: And we've already seen significant change on the roster already 382 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: Kendrick's departure, Adam Thielen is gone, he's in Carolina. 383 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: They have the worst cap situation in the league. 384 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad, Yeah, but like looking back, Dalvin actually 385 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 4: played more games in twenty twenty two than he has 386 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: in any season in his career. Another eleven hundred yard season. 387 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 4: I think that was his fourth in a row. But 388 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 4: you just wonder where's the improvement going to be, Like, 389 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: where's the space to improve? Considering like, as you mentioned, 390 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: some of those wins could have easily been losses. That 391 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 4: there's so much discussion over the one score game with 392 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: the Vikings, and you kind of wonder, not to the 393 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 4: extent of the Cardinals, right, but you kind of wonder, like, 394 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: what who are we doing here? What's the plan? And 395 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: it's just kirk Man, It's just the plan. 396 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: Should be mentioned by the way they tabled kirk and 397 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: the idea of an extension there. That's a whole separate conversation. 398 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: But they also re signed Greggi as we know, Alexander 399 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: Madison to a two year deal in the off season, 400 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: almost six and a half million guaranteed, which puts him 401 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: in the top twenty of NFL running back. So it's 402 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: like that they have the guy that would become their 403 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: most likely featured back or a main guy back. There 404 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: now just becomes about pulling the trigger and finding a 405 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,120 Speaker 3: way to move. 406 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: It seems I think he go on. But if he 407 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: took if Dalvin Cook took a big enough pay cut, 408 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: then made I think that's where he's talking about solutions oriented. 409 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: But when they asked like, when you re signed Madison, 410 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: did you see him still being a backup? And their 411 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: answer to that was essentially, well, there there is a 412 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: scenario where you could see him and Dalvin on the 413 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: same team, but that sort of implies the most likely 414 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: scenario is that Alexander Madison is the starting quarterback and 415 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: I mean the starting running back. And Zadaria Smith, for 416 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: what it's worth, I don't know if he never posted 417 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm not really on top of this, but 418 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: he does not have any posts on Instagram. Left left 419 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker also took off all of his Cardinals stuff, 420 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: but Zaandaria Smith has not taken it off of Twitter. 421 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: His second to last tweet, in fact, is saying thank 422 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: you to Skull Nation of him wearing Vikings uniform, but 423 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: it's also saying goodbye to all of. 424 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 3: You, so that seems And finally in the news, how 425 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: about this, how about Patrick? The off season training program 426 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: has begun, So the off season is over and it's 427 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: time now for us to fold into a new season 428 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: of the NFL. 429 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: If you'll be enjoyed the off season, it was good. 430 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 3: You know what you do with the family of this offseason? 431 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 4: The same things all the time, chased them around, cleaned 432 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: up bermuda steps, yeah, stepped on toys, none of that. 433 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: But it's all the Colts and the Panthers got to work. 434 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: We on NFL. Now we had some dude doing. 435 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Pull up chiefs. Chiefs were out there. 436 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: Doing we was doing performative pull ups. That was in 437 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 3: April seventeen. 438 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: That was the thing. I was like, who is that? 439 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 4: I want to say, it's just some dude. We don't know. 440 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm still uh, you know, as our former president Barack 441 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: Obama used, they still Hawaii in my mind again, I'm 442 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: still in in my mind, he just walks and keeps it, 443 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: keeps it everywhere. We don't need to be reporting on 444 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: who doesn't show up for like weightlifting at this point, 445 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: but have you they have? It has been noted around 446 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: the league a few a few like franchise players and whatnot, 447 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and another. 448 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: There you go. The new Greg who went to Hawaiian 449 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: came back a different man. Can you cite any examples 450 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 3: since I last saw you Thursday? You know, the old 451 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: Greg maybe a little bit on edge, maybe would have 452 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: handled the situation one way. But new Greg came back 453 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: from the Islands. Handled it this way. 454 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Our show is delayed today, and I just took it 455 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: as it as it came. I took advantage of the 456 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: extra time, spent time with Patrick, prepped a little more 457 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: for a segment, and just, hey, control what you can control. 458 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. It was a very out of example. 459 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: The seventy eight annoying things I could say to Emmica, 460 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: my beautiful wife this weekend that I could have said, 461 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: how many said seventy seven? I held one. 462 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: Boom could have been a big one. 463 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: It's still changed. 464 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 3: Could have been the one that all right, let's take 465 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: a break and uh, I'm gonna spin that wheel. 466 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: All right. 467 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: Hey, one more quote, like circling back to Jalen Hurts. 468 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: This was from Nick Sirianni, Eagles head coach back in January, 469 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: referring to, you know, having this quarterback who has reached 470 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 3: this high level, superstar level play even I think he's 471 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: in the superstar club. 472 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: Then right, when you have the best game of your 473 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: career in the super Bowl, it's pretty good. That'll do it. 474 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Jake Doloone did that too, but. 475 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: You didn't come in second for MVP vote in that 476 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: same year. 477 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 3: But it's a fair point anyway. This is what Sirianni said. 478 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: It's like having Michael Jordan out there. He's your leader, 479 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: he's your guy. 480 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 6: Yes, football is completely different than basketball. 481 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, Mark. But if you believe you have a 482 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan like figure in your locker room, you give 483 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: the man bag. 484 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: So good job and also don't make him mad because 485 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: Mike would strike you. I don't think Jalen would strike 486 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: you like Mike would. 487 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: But I watched that with Aflec and damon me too. 488 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: It's good. I gave it a three out of four 489 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: word come down on it. 490 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's good. I enjoyed it a lot. 491 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 6: It was interesting. 492 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: I haven't yet I will. 493 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. 494 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: It's in theater, it's in theaters. 495 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: I saw it in theaters and then I after watching 496 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: it because I find Jordan to be immensely compelling, as 497 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: many people do. I revisited the Netflix ten part series Who, 498 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: So I'm very much got a lot of Jordan on 499 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: the mind. So, yeah, Michael Jordan, what a player. 500 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: I feel like Jalen Hurts is more loved, probably by 501 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: his teammates rather than feared. 502 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: I would say so, I would say so. Anyway, let's 503 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: get into it. Let us and again if you are 504 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: just tuning in, if you're looking for the Frank Ocean 505 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: breakdown Wednesday's podcast when Mark Sessler returns from Coachella. 506 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: I did watch the Boy Genius set live? About that? 507 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: How did you the streaming? Nah? 508 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, enjoyed it. I mean yeah, it's all streaming. 509 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: I feel like Boy Genius checks all the Rosenthal boxes 510 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: what you look for in your indie. 511 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: Well, I'm a huge Julian Baker is one third of 512 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: the supergroup. So I went and saw boyd Bridges five 513 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: years ago in their first time time around here. 514 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: You got Phoebe, got Phoebe Bridges, you. 515 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Got Lucy Dacis. Yeah, really will get the pop not 516 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: as much, but I don't know if Julian Baker really 517 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: does either. But uh, go go support. 518 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: We save this for the Boy Genius podcast. Maybe we will. 519 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: Let's get to it. Let's get to it all right. 520 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: This is i P. This is our i P. It's 521 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: our tech. It is the wheel O Mattic random randomizer 522 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: and with the draft. Well, okay, that's a game show type. 523 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: You wanted more dystopian like, quite honest. 524 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: But it's fine. We're gonna keep moving forward, no issue. 525 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Keep that Harlot Bridget out of here. 526 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that is your main job. Don't worry about 527 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 3: anything else. Justin for the balance of the program, Let's 528 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: just keep the wheel o Mattic as the as the 529 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: ip here. We're gonna spin the wheel and wherever the 530 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 3: wheel lands. And this is legit, like, we have no 531 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: idea what is going to happen. Justin, it's going to spin. 532 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 3: It's going to land on a team, and we are 533 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: going to immediately dive into a conversation in that team's 534 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 3: biggest needs as the draft approaches. Pretty straightforward, let's get it, okay, 535 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 3: spin it. Anything we need to know justin, the wheel 536 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: is random. 537 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 6: That's all you need to know. 538 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: The Houston Texans are the first team up. I was 539 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: reading boys Peter King's column. He has a popular, venerable 540 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 3: column called Monday Morning something or other. What's it called now? 541 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 3: Football Morning in America used to be Monday Morning Quarterback. 542 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 4: You know? 543 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: You know Peter King, right, great. 544 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: Sure familiar with his work. 545 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: King talking, you know in his latest he is a 546 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: legend breaking down He's talked to a bunch of people 547 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: in the know. Everyone's certain at this point that Bryce 548 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 3: Young is going number one to the Panthers. That is 549 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: what he's hearing. So then it becomes the number two 550 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: pick C. J. Stroud. There are whispers, there are whispers 551 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 3: out there that they are not going to take Stroud 552 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: or maybe even pick at number two. What do they 553 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 3: need to do, Greg? What are the biggest needs for Houston? 554 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: Obviously QB is one. 555 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean QB is the one. Yeah, So that's why 556 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: passing on a QB at two would be compelling. But 557 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: they could trade bals. 558 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: Because they passed on a quarterback last year when they 559 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: had two high value picks as well. 560 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: Right, I would think it'd be in borderline insane unless 561 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: they got their quarterback another way. For instance, our friend 562 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: over at established the run Evan Silva has them trading 563 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: taking Will Anderson two and then trading into three with 564 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and taking Will Levis there. There's some buzz 565 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: that there may be not a Stroud team. We'll see. 566 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario spoke on Monday as we're taping this and 567 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: insisted the reports that he might not be there after 568 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: the draft are untrue. 569 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: It's like the DiCaprio character in Wolf of ball Street said. 570 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: He referenced that just me and Casario on the same wavelength. 571 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: So he's not going anywhere. Apparently at this point, it 572 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: would be insane for him to not have a quarterback 573 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: after three years, because you look at the rest of 574 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: their roster, they have so many needs. He's done very 575 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: little good work in the last two years other than 576 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: firing two head coaches. 577 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: I got a little insight into their decision making when 578 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: Steve Whysh had an interview with Dimiko at the league 579 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 4: meeting not too long ago, and Dimiko's quote was, there's 580 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: two really good quarterbacks that we both feel great about. 581 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: But the question is how much is the gap do 582 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 4: they see between quarter back one and quarterback two? And 583 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: I think if they wanted to trade out, it shouldn't 584 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: be that difficult because teams do have a favorite between 585 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: Levis and Richardson and maybe Stroud, Like all of these 586 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: other things, you're gonna want to get your favorite, and 587 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: so Arizona isn't in the market right and so there's 588 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: a path ahead. But I think right they do have 589 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 4: a need for a star defensive player, and Will Anderson 590 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: is there they could do that. I don't think it's 591 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: that much of a stretch where if they say, look like, 592 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: we think CJ is good, but is he number two 593 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: overall good? And the draft history since twenty ten says 594 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 4: if you take a defender in the top three, you're 595 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 4: probably more likely to get Pro Bowls, playoff wins, all 596 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: these other things than the second quarterback off the board. 597 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: Those drafts don't have anything to do with this draft, 598 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: but I think there's a case to be made. 599 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: As a reminder, they have the twelfth overall pick from 600 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson trade. That's the Browns pick, So if 601 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: they wanted to trade back up, they're not far away. 602 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: And if they wanted to wait and take the first 603 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,959 Speaker 1: wide receiver off the board, for instance, they could probably 604 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: do that too, because they need a lot of help 605 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: at wide receiver too. 606 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: Right Brandon Cooks was moved into trade, so that is now, 607 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: of course, and we were talking about it last week 608 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: with Eric Edholm. The wide receiver class, there's definitely talent 609 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 3: here is their first round talent. 610 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: You could take Smith and Jigba there wouldn't be crazy. 611 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you could take Anthony Richardson in there, who knows 612 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: who they would like as their number two. 613 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: If I'm a Texans fan, who I'm dying for that? 614 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: Like Commanders fans are rejoicing because they feel like the 615 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: future now gets to begin and it's bright. And with 616 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 3: Houston Texans fans, you know, ever since Watson said I 617 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: wanted to be traded then all the scandal broke, it's 618 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: just been a dark cloud over this organization. And if 619 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: they went through a second straight draft cycle with a 620 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: premium pick and said, no, we're not taking the quarterback, 621 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't think that happens. Right, This doesn't end with 622 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: them not having a quarterback in the first round. 623 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: No, because Davis Mills is still their quarterback. They never 624 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: did sign a veteran, so has to They need edge players, 625 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: like that's what I mean. They need defensive linemen. No, 626 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: they need a center. I mean they still have one 627 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: of the worst rosters in the league. 628 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 3: At really a point, they have the artillery to get 629 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 3: creative and move around the first round board and get 630 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: maybe that big pass rusher and get a quarterback in 631 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: the middle of the round or in the top ten. 632 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: Still you can get back into the back into the 633 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: top ten and like you're not taking will Levis number 634 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 4: two overall, but you can feel better about that at 635 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: seven or eight. 636 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: Or even nine, they are in the they are in 637 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: the cat birds seat to be? Is that what it is? 638 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 639 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: What do we call it that? 640 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: It's a weird term. I'm not going to use it 641 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: ever again. To come out of Thursday night as a 642 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: big winner because they could have a quarterback people are 643 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: really intrigued by. And then the top wide receiver on 644 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: the board and everybody's like, oh, yeah, the Texans are 645 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: doing things unless they overthink things. Let's see what happens. 646 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: Spin it good start, good start. 647 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of and these are all totally random. 648 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: That is interesting. 649 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure apparently we could try to put our finger 650 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: on the scale. Justin gave us that option, strangely off Mic, 651 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: which was bizarre. 652 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: This establishment would do that. 653 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was offended that Justin would even give us 654 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: the option to to kind of betray our listeners in 655 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: such a man. 656 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: He was like, if you really need one team that 657 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: needs to come up, I could like move it up. 658 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: Because he pre did all this. 659 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: It's like, what. 660 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 6: It is random the order, but we could play with 661 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 6: the order. 662 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: Because it's like it's it's it's all legit like the democracy. 663 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: But if you wanted, we could stuff the ballot box. 664 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I give you an idea for a social 665 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 3: video that involves the producer prominently, because I know our 666 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 3: producers like that. A clip of right before we started 667 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: having when you have that conversation and then this conversation 668 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: during the show itself. 669 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 6: Okay, that sounds like a pretty good note of that, 670 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 6: and I think that would be. 671 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: Again, you do like to put little clips up of 672 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: when we mess up, when we step into it. 673 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: It's time. 674 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 6: The intro of this show that didn't get taped will 675 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 6: probably be on social media. 676 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, what content, I mean the listeners. What a joy 677 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 3: to have our hard working team always delivering the dagger. 678 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: The Washington Commanders is where that wheel landed. So we 679 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: just talked about this team that has been revitalized by 680 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 3: the report. And it's not official, official, but it appears 681 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 3: to be official, not official, but it appears to be 682 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: happening that Daniel Snyder is finally out of the picture 683 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 3: after twenty five tumultuous years. The Commanders have needs Patrick, 684 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: They need a quarterback right That to me is at 685 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 3: the top of the list. But some people don't think that. 686 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: Some people think Sam how is a guy to get 687 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 3: behind here. Well, when you go back and you consider 688 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: the way that we felt in that because it was 689 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: the very game in twenty twenty two, and it's like, oh, 690 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 3: Sam Howell, why didn't we get this earlier? But then 691 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: you look at the numbers, it's like this was just 692 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz and Taylor Heineke lowering our expectations to an 693 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 3: extent where we feel comfortable saying this. It's tough to 694 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 3: project like what Sam Howell is going to be because 695 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: there was a point where people thought he could be 696 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: going number one in the draft and that ultimately didn't happen. 697 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: But between Howell and Jacoby Brissett, like you get at 698 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 3: least some way that we're going to see what Eric 699 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: b enemy's offense looks like, and you get this idea 700 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 3: because I think the biggest change besides ownership possibly changing 701 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 3: was the enemy coming in and it's like, oh, well, 702 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: we're going to at least see what this offensive group 703 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: can be capable of, considering the talent they have on 704 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 3: the outside. But you would feel better if there was 705 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: a quarterback plan. 706 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: Wait, I think it's a need but all reporting indicates 707 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: they don't think it's a need. They're sixteenth overall. I've 708 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: seen some trade up scenarios with them. They don't seem 709 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: like the team that's going to do that. Their rosters 710 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: is the type of roster you'd expect from a mid 711 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: level team. They actually don't have a lot of screaming 712 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: huge needs. The thing I came up with was actually 713 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: defensive line, which is what they're known for. But they 714 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, Ron Rivera has not gotten any of his 715 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: own guys since he's gotten there. They really haven't. All 716 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: their best players were there with the previous regime. Chase 717 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: Young's gonna be either in a fifth year option, we'll 718 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: see if that's picked up, or it's the final year 719 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: of his deal. Deron Pain's on a one year contract. 720 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: Montes Sweat I think is on the at the end 721 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: of his deal too. Jonathan Allen's been there forever. But 722 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: they need to start finding like their own guys. Their 723 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: thin upfront and at a cornerback. And that's the thing 724 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: that disappoints me a little bit about Rivera in Mayhew 725 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: Here it's like they've gotten it done and they've been respectable, 726 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: but they haven't really brought in a lot of players 727 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: since they got there in twenty twenty one. 728 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there, you could look at their the 729 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: back end of their defense as well. Cornerback profiles is 730 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: a need as well. You know, I just are they 731 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 3: really gonna do that? Are they going to go into 732 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 3: this brand new, this bright new horizon era of the 733 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: team with Brissett and with a fifth round pick? That 734 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: would just surprise me if they come out of the 735 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 3: draft night, like. 736 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: If Richardson fell, like, they're a team that's a perfect. 737 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: Example of a guy that they would be. Everyone be like, 738 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: we have a new owner, we have this exciting quarterback 739 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 3: with all this great skill set, Like, look at us, now, 740 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 3: we could be anything. 741 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: If one of the quarterbacks really falls past twelve or whatever, 742 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: are they a team that could move up a couple 743 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: spots or wait until he gets the sixteen. 744 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 4: Maybe that may be the most likely scenario because let's 745 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 4: say that at corner right, they're in a spot where 746 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 4: they can try to move up into the top ten. 747 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 4: If Christian Gonzales is there, say at nine. 748 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: Man moving for cornerbacks is tough though, but it's what 749 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: the team needs. 750 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, if we're if we're skipping past quarterback and saying, well, 751 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 4: how can we get the best team that we can 752 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 4: this year? We get a cornerback in the nine to 753 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 4: twelve range, not staying and waiting at sixteen. But if 754 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 4: that's the case, if he's if he's still there, it 755 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 4: means those quarterbacks most likely were already gone, right, And 756 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: so then if you don't like the quarterback, like why 757 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 4: reach for one just because you need to satisfy a 758 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 4: position need like twenty twenty four exists? 759 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: You know, Like, I don't know sure, and it should 760 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: be stated. We talked about this. I think it was 761 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: last week early last week that Ron Rivera was on 762 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 3: record saying, you know, their hands are a little bit 763 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: tied right now with decision making until they know who 764 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 3: they're answering to, Like, would that take them out of 765 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: a decision as big as drafting a quarterback in the 766 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 3: first round? Would they because of the unrest or the uncertainty? 767 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 3: Would they go more meat and potatoes in this draft? 768 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: Well? And thinking like what can help us this year 769 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: right now? Save our jobs? Who can play right away? 770 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's weird that there they're linemen, that 771 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: none of them are signed long long term other than now, 772 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: and then they didn't draft any of them. They could 773 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: they could use another strength. 774 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 3: You're disappointed in Ron because you think that's something he 775 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: would be. 776 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: I just look it. It's just weird to me that 777 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: if you look at their team, you hate running the 778 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: best players. They struggled in the GM exercise because their 779 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: best players were all brought in before they all got there. 780 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: Tough, toughy, all right. It spin the wheel. 781 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: I like it so spin in the middle of the wheel. 782 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 3: That's a graver touch. 783 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: Watch check us out on YouTube. We're really hitting the hits, 784 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: playing the hits here at the top. 785 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 3: And you did not justin manipulate it in any way. 786 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 6: Zero percent manipula I would I would never. 787 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: Say that you would. In my heart, I know who 788 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: you are. But once you introduced that conversation earlier, it 789 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 3: does the seed of doubt is planted. Let's let's be honest, 790 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 3: like that's understandable, and it's not like you're trying to 791 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 3: do the best show possible, just like the rest of us. 792 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't I wouldn't even see it to something dastardly. 793 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: But at the same time, you gotta asked the question. 794 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm a little concerned. 795 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 6: I promised this process was one hundred percent random, and. 796 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: We'll know that if the Titans are brought up at all, 797 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: that's telling that where did just land? 798 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 3: Sorry the Bears the Bears. 799 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: Extra second round pick, but that's it. They don't have 800 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: some I have some idea that they have like this 801 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: huge surplused picks, but not really extra second, extra fourth, 802 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 1: extra fi. 803 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: What are the Bears need? What are we talking about 804 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 3: with the Bears? They obviously have their quarterback, So now 805 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 3: you're looking at a team the defense needs a lot 806 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: of work, right. 807 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: They are sort of like, to me, the team that 808 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: needs to have the most meat and potatoes draft. They 809 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: might have the worst offensive line defensive line combination in 810 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: the league, especially defensive line, whether it's edge or defensive tackle. 811 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: Like they're almost starting from scratch. They have guys on 812 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line and they're not like the worst, but 813 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: they have a bunch of guys that you're like, oh, 814 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: I would like to have a guy better than that guy. 815 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: So it's not as huge a need, but it just 816 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: feels like that's why they were comfortable moving down. I 817 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: think they have kind of like the outside pieces. But 818 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: they need just like a ton of big smelly linemen. 819 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 3: Why can't they groom themselves properly? 820 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: Well, if you're a bigger player, you're just more likely 821 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: to eat and sweat. 822 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: And I feel like Peter Skronsky smells just fine and 823 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 4: he's gonna that's I have a long career side product. 824 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 3: If the big men inside ever heard you say that, 825 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: they would take exception to it. 826 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that video, did you see, Jeff Schwartz 827 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: I think was part of it. Sent out with the 828 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: offensive linemen all ate as much as they could in 829 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: one meal. I think there were a bunch of prospects 830 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: to see who could put on the most weight in 831 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: one meal, and it varied. They went out for like 832 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, steaks and whatnot. Sure one guy didn't gain anything. 833 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 1: The rest of them all were between five and twelve 834 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: pounds in one meal. One guy I think got up 835 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: to it to eleven pounds and one meal. 836 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 4: How did the one guy not gain? 837 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 3: These guys sharing a hotel. 838 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: Room because he because he didn't make it through the 839 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: rough one, he didn't make it through the whole meal 840 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: without having to use the bathroom. 841 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so the data is incomplete. 842 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 3: That's a rough one. I actually. 843 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that has to do with smelly, 844 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: but the bathrooms. 845 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't want to, yeah, go down that 846 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: rabbit hole, that hole at all. But like I've always 847 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 3: I've wondered about, like the competitive eaters, like what happens 848 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 3: in that realm? Like how quickly is that addressed? And 849 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 3: at what level? Like what are we talking? 850 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 4: I would say within thirty minutes, it's probably. 851 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: And like what are we talking? Like what's going on? 852 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 4: Non traditional means? 853 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: But so Ian eleven pounds is crazy going from like 854 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: three he was one guy went from three eleven to 855 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: three twenty two. 856 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 3: But you're not really what we're saying is you're not 857 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 3: referring to body odor. You're more like, you know. 858 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, just a little bit everything. But yeah, if 859 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: here are there, here's their starting defensive line on paper. 860 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't even know who who would be, but 861 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Justin Jones, Andrew Billings, DeMarcus Walker, Trevis Gibson, maybe throwing 862 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: a Rashim Green Like that's four spots you would want 863 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: to improve. 864 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: It's a reminder that they lost relentlessly yah last season 865 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 3: to get the number one overall pick and the need. 866 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: Team and the offensive line is like they have guys 867 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: they know and they're okay, but they could all be 868 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: a little. 869 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 4: Better, and the needs aren't necessarily as bad because having 870 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback right convinces you that things aren't as bad 871 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 4: as they could be. Like if you we put Justin 872 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 4: Fields on the Houston Texans, we feel completely different about 873 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 4: the state and direction of the franchise, and so it's 874 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 4: not as bad as it was. But I think at nine, 875 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: right when we're talking about what they do coming up 876 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 4: here in a week and change, I think it's literally, 877 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 4: I really it's a cliche, but the best player available. 878 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 4: And I don't know if they reach for alignment just 879 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 4: because like it's a particular team need. 880 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 3: It's pretty good we're here, it's a pretty good offensive 881 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: lineman class. 882 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: I feel like they're a spot at nine where they 883 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: could either take the top tackle or maybe it's like 884 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: the second or third edge player. 885 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 3: I think I think you're right, though, Greg. I think 886 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: this will be seen as like the Bears look to 887 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: the trenches to build around Justin Fields and to improve 888 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: that defense. That's where we see this one going. All right, 889 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 3: what else, let's see what it? What has been random thing? 890 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 4: It feels like Jets. 891 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 3: It is the New York Jets. How about that. I 892 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: had nothing to do with this. This is completely random, 893 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: so don't take it out on me. The New York Jets, well, 894 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 3: I guess they don't need a quarterback. Probably we don't 895 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: know for sure, but probably not. I think with the Jets, 896 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 3: you're looking at Corey Davis is still there, which is 897 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 3: kind of interesting because I think it was a foregune 898 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 3: conclusion that they were going to move him. They were 899 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: very interested in Odell. I'm glad they didn't pay for Odell. 900 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 3: I was. I was happy how that turned out. But 901 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: I don't see them necessarily out at wide receiver. But 902 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 3: I think that the top of the draft, and let's 903 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 3: see where they at. They're at thirteen thirteen. I think 904 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 3: that is going to be an offensive lineman. I think 905 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 3: they are going to put focus at that spot and 906 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 3: continue to hit it hard. Because Joe d for all 907 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 3: his talk and everything you hear about offensive line with 908 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 3: that team or the trenches and coming from the Eagles 909 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 3: model of how to build a team, they still don't 910 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 3: have a very good offensive line. And if they like it, 911 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: guy there I think that's where you're going to see 912 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 3: a pick. Here a tackle. 913 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: You have Makai Beck and Andwayne Brown. It's like between 914 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: those two could count on one of them. Maybe one 915 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: of you also need a center. Maybe you're okay at guard, 916 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, a tackle edge. You know, I know Carl 917 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: Lawson is still there at least for another year. They 918 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: took Jermaine Johnson last year was okay, but I think 919 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: they could want an edge player. 920 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 4: And there's no problem with There's no problem with having depth. 921 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 4: Like let's say it's a it's a Paris Johnson junior 922 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 4: to that pick by the Jets, and then you get 923 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 4: healthy Dwayne Brown right and healthy Big Ticket. It's like, oh, 924 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 4: is that the worst problem in the world. If you 925 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,360 Speaker 4: have guys that you can move around in depth of 926 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 4: the position, I think it's no. 927 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: It's planning ahead, like doing this exercise going through all 928 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: these rosters. I'm going to be doing, oh, what's it 929 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: called projected starters coming out It's like the roster the 930 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: Jets are in one of the nice positions where it's like, actually, 931 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: you should be planning ahead at some of these positions, 932 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: like edge tackle. It's a little bit of planning ahead, 933 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: like they don't have a lot of screaming needs. It's 934 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: screaming when you see Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle as QV 935 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: one and two. Yes, but that should be that should 936 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: be for harrowing screams. 937 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 3: And maybe yeah, maybe we talked about a little bit 938 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 3: last show. Maybe the Rogers thing finally gets settled draft weekend, 939 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 3: That would be nice. But I really do think that 940 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 3: is it's it's blinking right in front of the Jets 941 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 3: to go continue to build out that line because you're 942 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 3: probably gonna have like a thirty nine year old quarterback there, 943 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 3: and you want to have some depth as well, because 944 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 3: they got killed by injuries on their line last year 945 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 3: as well. So got spin it, spin it a little leg, 946 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 3: a little lag on it, the tech, a little lag 947 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 3: on the tech there, justin we'll address that. Was that 948 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 3: a producer issue or more just the video. 949 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 6: That was a thing I could replace for the YouTube 950 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 6: no one would ever know, but now might as well 951 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 6: keep it. 952 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: Kind of like like when wet us up at you know, 953 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: starting a show, like no one would ever know it, 954 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: but right but now they send it out on so. 955 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: Everyone needs to see it exactly the comedy of errors 956 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:15,760 Speaker 3: that is doing our podcast. The Cleveland Browns are up next. Okay, 957 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 3: what do we got with the Cleveland Browns? 958 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 1: Nobody takes another team up front. I think like they 959 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: signed Dalvin Tomlinson at a defensive tackle who I think 960 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: will play a lot for them. Was a nice signing, 961 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: but that was one of the worst positions maybe in football. 962 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: Last year was Brown's defensive tackle and so they still 963 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: need another guy they drafted. Actually a year ago, perry 964 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: On Winfrey was arrested for domestic abuse, I believe since 965 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: we last taped, So I don't think he's going to 966 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: be in the mix. The Browns just can't get away 967 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: from these off the field stuff and edge the guy 968 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: across from Miles Garrett. I know they signed agbo Okoronka, 969 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: who I kind of like, but I think defensive lineman. 970 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 4: It could be it could be a reunion right that 971 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 4: we couldn't make things work with and Clowney, but apparently 972 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: that is no. 973 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that's happenedship definitely. 974 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,840 Speaker 3: So how about the wide receiver group, Yeah, like we 975 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 3: like Cooper a lot. Elijah Moore was a smart move, 976 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 3: but still a guy that has not proven in the league. 977 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 3: People's Jones. 978 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: People's Jones had a nice season. You can probably be 979 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: any Schwartz, you'd probably be happier. No player has profiled 980 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: any different than his than Tony Schwartz. 981 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 3: Then, I don't know. 982 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: Are you saying you're expecting something different from Tony Schwartz. 983 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's all speed. No, I don't know, just 984 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: Tony Schwartz hasn't done it yet. 985 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 3: I need more than speed, I guess, But I'm looking 986 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 3: at the rest of that room. Yeah, they could a 987 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 3: wide receiver, like you know, and you are not as 988 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 3: high on a general the general manager as I am. 989 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 3: I guess, but I wouldn't be surprised that they come 990 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 3: at it with a nice value add in the wide 991 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 3: receiver room. I think they stay. 992 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: Two People's Jones, will his contract will come up. It's 993 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: planning ahead. It's they're defense probably needs more work. 994 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 3: Defense was bad last year. 995 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,399 Speaker 1: But you're right. This this exercise is like you go through. 996 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: Almost every team could use a receiver and a cornerback 997 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: because you kind of need four of both now and 998 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: the rules have changed. It's like very few teams have 999 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: a good four. 1000 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 4: They'd really have to hit a home run. Considering that 1001 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 4: another team is making their first round pick, so it's like, 1002 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 4: where are we getting the upgrade over DPJ at wide receiver? 1003 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 4: Like you're going to need somebody to Really, it's. 1004 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: A deep one. It is a deep draft. But you're right. 1005 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: What are their draft picks this year? The Browns have 1006 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: two fours, two fives, but otherwise they're they're taking their 1007 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: their first after round one, two picks in the top 1008 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: onety second and ninety eight. 1009 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 4: Right, hope was if that quarterback can't play, decidedly not 1010 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: worth it. 1011 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 3: It's going to be real bad if you can't play, spin. 1012 00:49:49,920 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 2: It, Greggy. 1013 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,919 Speaker 3: The New England Patriots, Yes, their draft picks are let's 1014 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 3: see what we got. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 1015 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 3: start doing this a little late into the exercise. But 1016 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 3: they are fourteenth overall and then they pick forty sixth 1017 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 3: overall in the second round. They have a third round pick, 1018 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 3: a fourth round pick, two fourth round picks, Okay, three 1019 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 3: fourth round picks. Here we go. 1020 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say the roster is like not bad. They're 1021 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of like they don't have a ton of screaming 1022 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: like capital end needs tackle I would say is one 1023 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: of them. It's not like a lot of fun. Their 1024 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: defensive line is older and not great. They certainly could 1025 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: use a cornerback. They could use one of those nice 1026 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: pass catching tight ends. That's what I would like. I 1027 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 1: know they have Hunter Henry, but in the first round. 1028 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: Now on something splashy. Yeah, I mean Hunter Henry's give 1029 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: me one more year of him and I'm good. So 1030 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: let's take a guy you can have for five years. 1031 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 4: What about what about Darnell Washington? Too early to take him? 1032 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: That seems like a Patriots type of pick. But I 1033 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: would be more into like the Dalton kincad of it all. 1034 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 3: I did. I like the tight end. I was thinking that. 1035 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 3: I didn't mention it for the Jets either, but I 1036 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 3: think they would make sense for a tight end. We 1037 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 3: keep on hearing what a great tight end class this is. 1038 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, you got Koseki there as well. 1039 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots have four receivers. I think they 1040 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: are comfortable playing Devonte Parker, Kendrick Bourne, Juju and Taekwon Thornton. 1041 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 4: Are they comfortable playing Kendrick Bourne? Like, does Bill want 1042 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne on the field if he. 1043 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: Was in the doghouse? But that is something that they 1044 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: do is take guys out of the doghouse. He's still 1045 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: in the roster, and to me, he might be their 1046 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: best receiver. So that's a problem, so that they could 1047 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: be looking at receiver too. But I don't I don't 1048 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: trust them knowing them though. They're gonna take some small 1049 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: They're either gonna take like a trade, They're gonna trade 1050 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: down and take some random guard. They'll take like an 1051 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: undersized small school cornerback that no one was expecting to 1052 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: go and annoy everyone. Yeah, it's like, like, oh is 1053 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: he under five nine? Go for it? 1054 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 3: I know. But that all that that glory day stuff 1055 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 3: when you had Brady leading the whole show. Like, you 1056 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 3: know what the roster is the as the kids say, 1057 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 3: pretty mid when you look at it. Yeah, it's just 1058 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 3: kind of like kind of Washington where it's not bad. Yes, 1059 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 3: they need some difference makers and not just some scatback 1060 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 3: out of you know, our Lady of the Hopeless Miracle. 1061 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: In their defense, here are some players they've drafted over 1062 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: the last two years. Guys they can kind of build 1063 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: her on. Cole Strange thought he played pretty well as 1064 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: a rookie. In the end, Mac Jones will see Ramandre 1065 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: Stevenson bar Moore, nice player, Jack Jones, nice player, Marcus 1066 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: Jones nice player. They actually you know, ZAPPI, we'll see 1067 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: talk into it, young player. If you can get three, 1068 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: if you get three good years of drafts in a row, 1069 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: and I would say they've had two in a row, 1070 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: then you could be yeah there. 1071 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 3: Anyway, Mac Jones gets traded. By the way, he's a 1072 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 3: fourth round pick. 1073 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: Patrick, He's looking like a at worst, the good backup 1074 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: they have. They're good at drafted backup quarterback. 1075 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 3: That's a way. Thursday night comes and we we hear 1076 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 3: Mac Jones's in your backup rink. 1077 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: He's got potential and he played pretty well in his 1078 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: two games. 1079 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 3: What about that Mac traded On draft night? They draft 1080 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 3: a quarterback and then Bailey gets to compete for the 1081 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 3: starting job week one while the kid learns and develops. 1082 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 3: Any chance. 1083 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: Well, I have to admit it took me until this 1084 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: last weekend to finally watch Anthony Richardson, and my god, 1085 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, give me some of that. 1086 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1087 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: How could that not work? Someone with that pocket presence 1088 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 1: and that athleticism, he's a real quarterback. Let's let's draft 1089 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: him and trade Mac over to the Ravens. 1090 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 3: All right, I left that. I'm sure that's what Odell 1091 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 3: Beckham signed up for. Paul's right there, everybody, We're gonna 1092 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 3: spin the wheel some more, but first a word from 1093 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 3: our sponsors. All right, spin the wheel. We almost got 1094 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:02,399 Speaker 3: the Browns again, no duplicates, tough on, we got the 1095 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 3: what Carolina Panthers? Yes, all right? 1096 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 4: So what do you do around Bryce Young? Is? I 1097 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 4: think if Peter King has said it, then by god, 1098 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 4: it's got to be the case, right. 1099 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 3: What are you taking? Shout to King? 1100 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 4: There? 1101 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 3: No, everyone detected sarcasm. 1102 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 4: There, No. The access that Peter King have has definitely 1103 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 4: supersedes mine. I'm not gonna come out. 1104 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: And they are saying a lot of like everyone around 1105 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: the league believes it's you know Young, now that it 1106 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: depends on the situation of the team. It's like I 1107 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: also saw everyone around the league believes that Seahawks are 1108 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: taking Jalen Carter. But since when has everyone around the 1109 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: league known what the hell the Seahawks are going to do. 1110 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: They're the most unpredictable teams, so you don't know if 1111 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: that's right. But yes, what else would you get with 1112 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: Bryce Young? You need a receiver? 1113 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you definitely do, considering you traded your best receiver 1114 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 4: away to get the quarterback. So it's it's a gift 1115 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 4: exchange gone wrong if you don't do that, and so 1116 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 4: the they're still there, that they can still come back 1117 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 4: and maybe get a Jackson Smith in Jigba early on. 1118 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,959 Speaker 4: If it's if it's one of those needs based things, 1119 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 4: like if you would feel better at fourteen then than 1120 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 4: in the top ten, well just just go ahead and 1121 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 4: make the pick. 1122 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,960 Speaker 3: They have the first pick overall, of course, then they 1123 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 3: pick two picks in the third what one pick in 1124 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 3: the second round? Thirty nine overall, and then they have 1125 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 3: a third round pick from the Niners. 1126 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 4: They can pack fourth round picks, they can package those. 1127 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: I feel like so this draft there, it's such a 1128 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: deep receiver draft, like a lot. I think there's a 1129 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: thought there's not a huge difference between like wide receiver 1130 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: three and wide receiver twelve that at thirty nine, I 1131 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: have a feeling there's gonna be some good players on 1132 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: the board and they're going to be looking offense because 1133 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: right now their top three receivers are Terriss Marshall, DJ Shark, 1134 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: and Adam Thielin This is as clear. 1135 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 3: As it gets for me so far though this exercise, 1136 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 3: Like what are the two needs for this team? QB 1137 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 3: wide receiver? Like is there another position that really stands 1138 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 3: out that they would out with their first couple? 1139 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: Now they signed Shy Tuttle and there's not a lot there. 1140 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: There's Eric Brown, you know, but they're pretty stacked on 1141 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: defense in general. 1142 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 4: So it's all often a team that's really hit on 1143 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 4: their first round picks for a long time, Like they 1144 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 4: haven't had a lot of misses in the first round, 1145 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 4: going back, you can go back before Cam. 1146 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: They actually have a good offensive line on paper. It's 1147 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: a different system about that. Yeah, they've been Panthers first 1148 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: round a lot of singles and doubles. I would say 1149 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: guys like. 1150 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 3: You for singles in the first round. 1151 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean you want guys like Dj Moore. I think 1152 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: that's a solid line drive double, but you just traded him. 1153 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: Let's see Cam Kanwu j C. 1154 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 1: Horn Kanwe looks like we'll see. 1155 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: Derek Brown, Brian Burns, Dj Moore, Christian McCaffrey. That since 1156 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. 1157 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: Pretty good, pretty much, no no misses. Con was too 1158 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: early to say. 1159 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 4: I mean the streak right of guys who've gone to 1160 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 4: at least one Pro Bowl Shaq Thompson, Vernon Butler, CMC, 1161 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 4: DJ Moore, Brian. 1162 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: Burns, Vernon Butler. That was a miss. 1163 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, never mind thirtieth overall twenty sixteen. I stopped at 1164 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 3: twenty seven to help your point. 1165 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 4: But I mean, if if we're go back, you brought 1166 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 4: him in, Jonathan Sewart, Camper, I mean, come on, Kelvin Benjamin, 1167 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 4: I'll give it to you. 1168 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: But they're going to be super motivated though, to have 1169 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: a good offense around, Like they're gonna want to give 1170 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: Bryce young as if that's him or whoever the quarterback is, 1171 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: and Frank Raig, who's an offensive coach, as much of 1172 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: a chance as possible. 1173 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 3: Dang Yeah, Going Cam and Keigley back to back in 1174 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 3: eleven to twelve set that organization up. They want to 1175 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 3: do it again. Now, spin it spin spin, spin, spin, 1176 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:40,560 Speaker 3: no glitches, no glitches, got the smooth turn. The Los 1177 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 3: Angeles football Rams Matthew Stafford came out, by the way, 1178 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 3: he was interviewed somewhere and said, listen, not a kid anymore, 1179 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 3: my bod. But I'm all right, don't count me out. No, 1180 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 3: I can still sling it and I'm ready to play 1181 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 3: for the Rams. It appears they. 1182 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: Still don't have a first round draft pick. Yeah, it's 1183 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: tough still and they're there next year. 1184 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 3: They will potentially right next year. 1185 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: They do have two thirds because they got the Rams. 1186 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: They're a little disappointing, and they have three compensatory fifths, 1187 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: but it's thirty sixth overall. It's it's like they're saying, like, 1188 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: now we're more focused on the draft, but it's like 1189 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: you don't actually have that many draft picks, so they 1190 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: they could trade down. They they don't have any cornerbacks 1191 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: right now, and that that whole idea of like, well, 1192 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: they're not as going to be as injured this year 1193 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. If you look their offensive line 1194 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: is still looks pretty terrible. On the interior, it's like 1195 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: the same guys that weren't good before. So that those 1196 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: are two positions. 1197 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 4: It's wild to have a one of the better offensive 1198 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 4: players in the entire league and then Matt Stafford coming 1199 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 4: back and what could conceivably feel like a rebuild on 1200 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 4: both sides of the ball, where it's especially in the secondary. 1201 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 4: We don't even know so rap's gone between between him 1202 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 4: and and Ramsey, like there was so much moving and 1203 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 4: shaking in the secondary anyway that like, what's the plan? 1204 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: They have no pass rush either, so like that secondary 1205 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 1: is gonna have to hold up. Our friend Jordan Rodriguez, 1206 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: basically reading between the line's been saying like they're almost 1207 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: punting defenses here. So I think they're gonna go as 1208 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: hard as that. Well, no, I think they're gonna go 1209 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: as hard as they can on offense in the draft. 1210 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 1: Maybe traded out They didn't. She definitely didn't say that, 1211 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: but it just feels like they think they they think 1212 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: they can have a great offense. Still they actually, you know, 1213 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: between cup. 1214 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 3: That's important you said that. Jordan didn't actually report that. 1215 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 3: She listens to the show. She's probably like Greg at all. 1216 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: But I just think they're focusing on offense and realizing 1217 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to rely on coaching on defense, and 1218 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna be drafting offense too. 1219 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 3: Very good. All right, you want to do one more 1220 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 3: spin it, I'm gonna do twelve more in your mind. 1221 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 4: There they are. 1222 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 3: Hell the Detroit Lions. The twenty twenty two team of 1223 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 3: around the NFL. Love them Lions. 1224 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Let's we got to make it twenty three to two. 1225 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: They're the most fun team in the draft, I think 1226 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: with six and eighteen because they don't have crazy huge 1227 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: needs and their needs feel like they're at God and 1228 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,360 Speaker 1: they have two seconds too. Forty eight and fifty five. 1229 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, the Rams like they would love to have 1230 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the Lions. You know, pick if you're built rebuilding through 1231 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: the draft. 1232 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 3: This is a flashpoint moment for the Lions. They nail 1233 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 3: this draft. Look out, look the f out for Detroit. 1234 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 4: I can do some reporting here, let's hear it. Noted 1235 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 4: Lions fan and dear friend of our Cynthia Freeland. When 1236 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 4: she saw Buddha Baker requested a trade, she said, that's it. 1237 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 4: Go do it. Get on the phone right now and 1238 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 4: get Buddha to the Detroit Lions. So I'm gonna list 1239 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 4: safety as a need and say they can make that happen, 1240 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 4: because everything feels like icing on the cake at this 1241 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 4: point for this Lion's team. 1242 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I think quarterback is not a screaming need, but is 1243 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 1: a need. So I think they have to be thinking 1244 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 1: about Richardson at six or if if someone fell at eighteen. 1245 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I think tight end is indeed. Actually, you remember that 1246 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: guy brock Wright who got that one pass all season 1247 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 1: against the Giants. He's like, they're starting tight end, So 1248 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: they could take a tight end at eighteen perhaps, or 1249 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,480 Speaker 1: use one, or use one of those second round picks. 1250 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: I think they could still add at cornerback. I know 1251 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: they sign a couple in free agency, but not a bit. 1252 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 3: They might like their tight end room though, because that 1253 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 3: was weird because Hockinson was a big lift I thought 1254 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 3: for Minnesota's offense, but Detroit's offense didn't really take a 1255 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,439 Speaker 3: step back without him. I thought, yeah, maybe they're happy 1256 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,440 Speaker 3: internally with what's going on. 1257 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 4: It was kind of a utilization thing. Yeah. 1258 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 1: I think they need one more like dynamic receiver, whether 1259 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: it's a wide out or a tight end. Jamison Williams 1260 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: have been excited about him. I'm on Ray Saint Brown. 1261 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: He's great, but the their next best receiver after that 1262 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: is who. I don't know. Marvin Jones is there, Josh Renno, 1263 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: you know. 1264 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm going full Jordan Rodrigue. I'm punting on offense. If 1265 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,959 Speaker 3: I'm the Lions and I'm loading up they. 1266 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Do, I'm going the other offense, okay. 1267 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 3: And I'm just built. I like that it's bringing Buddha. 1268 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 3: So we'll cover safety there via train its action. Maybe 1269 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 3: give up a draft pick. What are you gonna give 1270 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 3: up for Baker? 1271 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: You have two seconds you could if you gave If 1272 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 1: you gave up that second second for Baker, maybe even 1273 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: a third round pick for a Baker feeling good. 1274 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 4: Three, it's a little let's see if they move, little 1275 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 4: rich see if they blink. 1276 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 3: Let's make the offer, right, did you want to spend 1277 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 3: one more time or do we want to say goodbye? 1278 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 3: We're pretty deep into the. 1279 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Show now, sounds like you want to say goodbye. 1280 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like this feels like the right time. 1281 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: You did it with the Lions. 1282 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1283 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 6: Nine, it's a kind of a weird number, but who cares. 1284 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 3: We didn't that was our night. We got to do 1285 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 3: one more, right you? Yeah, he did it. Good job, 1286 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 3: justin good producing there. This could be the best moment 1287 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 3: of the show right now. 1288 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: No, we don't need talk. Wait, can we just spend 1289 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: it again? The Cardinals need a run, they need everything 1290 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: they need? 1291 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 3: All right, we did the car No, but we can't 1292 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 3: do eleven. Okay, we're gonna have to go to twenty then. 1293 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's all coming to clarity. The Cardinals have 1294 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 4: their need. Their team need is a rudder and all 1295 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 4: of the requests for Kyler to be more mature have 1296 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 4: come into the They've come into clarity for me is 1297 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 4: because the things that they need a front office and 1298 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 4: team leadership to do, they would like to the quarterback 1299 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 4: to do it because they clearly have some issues. 1300 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,919 Speaker 1: They have no they have no position. I would say 1301 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: that's not a need. They have two tackles that are 1302 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 1: like elder statesmen. I guess that's a future need. So 1303 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 1: maybe you don't need a tackle. They have no one 1304 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 1: on the defensive line, almost no one at cornerback. 1305 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 4: They need it all and they're about to trade their 1306 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 4: safety to the line. 1307 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: All right, I guess he did the Cardinals. 1308 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 4: That's it. 1309 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 3: Gas gass it up, gas up the chainsaw, grave digger. 1310 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 3: That's a good way to close things. This is what 1311 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 3: they need to do. Do you ever use a chansaw? 1312 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 4: I have, actually, after all that wind that came through, 1313 01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 4: I used the chainsaw for the first time. 1314 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you borrowed it from a neighbor, or yeah. 1315 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 4: Barred it from neighbor, tried to rent one, but there 1316 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 4: was so much wind damage all around that all of 1317 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,919 Speaker 4: the rentals at multiple home depots were we're all out, 1318 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,800 Speaker 4: everybody's renting chainsaws. 1319 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 3: Hm, Greg, I don't have to ask you. I don't 1320 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 3: think you're a chainsaw guy. 1321 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Uh. No, that I had a little period where I 1322 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: would just like massacre young children all around the neighborhood. 1323 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: So that was a phase for me. 1324 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 6: I don't know about you want to use that for 1325 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 6: social too, all right, I'd rather cut it from this show. 1326 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 3: No, it must stay. Let's let's wrap things up there 1327 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 3: on on Kid Murder. We'll be back on Wednesday. And 1328 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 3: uh again, if you are ready for the Frank Ocean 1329 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 3: review that is on its way into your ears Wednesday, 1330 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 3: our second show. Three shows this week. Big announcement, big 1331 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,440 Speaker 3: announcement Wednesday. 1332 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 1: That it's about our draft plans. 1333 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, big announcement Wednesday. Oh where are you gonna be? 1334 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 4: I think I kind of know. 1335 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 3: Are you in the building on draft night? 1336 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 4: No, I'm not. 1337 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna be covering a team or something like that. 1338 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 4: No, I may be like on standby. 1339 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,959 Speaker 1: I'm on the bench right because we might need help 1340 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 1: because I'm going to jail for like three lifetimes now, right. 1341 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 3: Basically, every unsolved murder in the Los Angeles area for 1342 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 3: the past twenty years is now going to pin down Rosenthal. 1343 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 3: So we might need you Patrick, Okay, yeah yeah. Anyway, 1344 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 3: figure out big announcement regarding the NFL Draft on a 1345 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 3: Wednesday show. Until then, let's let's head out. 1346 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: I am absolutely excited about what's occurring. 1347 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 3: There. You go, that's important. Gotta be excited. Heed the call.