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Speaker 1: to swad all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

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Speaker 1: to swadd all my life. I've been grinding all my life. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Club Shasha. I am your host.

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Speaker 1: I'm also the proud of Club Sha Shaye and the

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Speaker 1: guy that's coming to for a drinking conversation to day if.

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Speaker 1: A four time NBA champ, he was the twenty fifteen

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Speaker 1: Gold medalists, an All Star New York Times best selling

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Speaker 1: Arthur Businessman podcast Hope Andre Iggo dollar? Did I say

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Speaker 1: that rate? Is it Igger dollar or Iggway dollar? Whoa

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Speaker 1: you're on point? Igger dollar? Depends on who you ask

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you. My father would know how to say

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Speaker 1: his name. He would say Igguard dollar, Igwa dollar. But

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Speaker 1: my mother would say a good dollars. But I think

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Speaker 1: I know my pops from so so you could go

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Speaker 1: of times you say it's like, nah, it's Iggle dollar.

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Speaker 1: But I he been saying to iglea dollars, So I

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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, what you just say, iggy? Most of

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Speaker 1: the times people just saygg and keep it moving. Right.

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Speaker 1: Coming off an NBA championship, four time champion, what's the

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Speaker 1: summer been like? Ducks bar for me? The summers are

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Speaker 1: always crazy in terms of just getting business done. So

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Speaker 1: So obviously spend when you say business, not basketball business,

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Speaker 1: off court business, off court business for sure. You know,

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of things I'm doing in tech probably

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Speaker 1: around like eighty companies I'm invested in now, private sector companies.

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Speaker 1: You know, the markets got hit a little bit right now,

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Speaker 1: so you don't see as many IPOs. They're slowing down

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Speaker 1: Recording the podcast from my man Evan Turner, that's been

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Speaker 1: really good. We had some exciting guests this week. But

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just pure work. And then I got

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Speaker 1: some interesting things, uh, business wise that I'm developing on

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Speaker 1: play a long season, obviously you played longer than anybody

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Speaker 1: else were you in the Celtics, but you wasn't the championship.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, that long season's crazy. You

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Speaker 1: So let's look at our options coming out of Memphis. Okay,

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Speaker 1: which end up be in Miami. In return, you want

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Speaker 1: gonna get you twenty four points a game, but he

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Speaker 1: might have three rebounds, might have one assist, So it

425
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Speaker 1: was it was empty stats because he was in a

426
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 1: bad situation in terms of winning. But he came into

427
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Speaker 1: a winning situation and he started doing all the little

428
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Speaker 1: intangible things and it just messed so well with our

429
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Speaker 1: team because of what else we had around. You caught

430
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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism Steph Wins's fourth ring. He's Finals MVP. Finally,

431
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Speaker 1: he's a two time MVP. He's regarded as the greatest

432
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Speaker 1: you'd ever and you said after winning this fourth Ring

433
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Speaker 1: and winning the Finals MVP that he solidifies himself as

434
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Speaker 1: the greatest point guard. And you said that stone face,

435
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 1: as if Magic Johnson didn't exist, is not still here.

436
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Speaker 1: You know what happened. I went and watched Winning Time

437
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Speaker 1: on HBO YAX and I watched It's Magic on Apple TV. Yeah,

438
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: so I had knew about Magic, and I revere Magic.

439
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes we revere guys and it works both ways. Sometimes

440
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: we look too much into a guy, or we don't

441
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: look enough into a guy, so you can get both

442
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: ways where a guy will And I don't want to

443
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Speaker 1: I don't want to mess up my words. But I

444
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: got to see Magic's weaknesses, yeah, where I can never

445
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: see him before. And now I'm watching every little close

446
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 1: thing and I'm like, oh, okay, now I'm seeing you know,

447
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 1: it's weaknesses. And I start watching an Olympic channel and

448
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,239
Speaker 1: ninety two Olympics. Yes, you know what I mean. So

449
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm really watching everything. I'm looking for Gud's weaknesses. Now

450
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So just watching that in depth,

451
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: and when you're in the finals, you're looking for anything

452
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Speaker 1: to get away from the finals. So I was really

453
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Speaker 1: throwing myself and immersed into Magic, so being able to

454
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Speaker 1: break down his game from that, and then always, oh,

455
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Speaker 1: I know STEP's weaknesses. You know, I'm win him every day,

456
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 1: So just matching up things everything's everybody's been saying about

457
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: him and the team's magic had with him, the team

458
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Speaker 1: Steph had with him like Magic had, I think higher

459
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Speaker 1: a higher level of the top three player no matter

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Speaker 1: how you fight. And I think Magic had a guy

461
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Speaker 1: who's never he's gotten credible how good he was. But

462
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Speaker 1: I don't think people know how good James Worthy was. Yeah, Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: James Worthy would be a great player in any and

464
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Speaker 1: every era. Oh yeah, which is rare. Yeah. You know,

465
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Speaker 1: you know in football, where there's certain guys that their

466
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Speaker 1: games don't translate. Magic had a few guys whose games

467
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Speaker 1: would translate. You know, I think Cooper's game would translate,

468
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Speaker 1: especially three D. Yeah, you know what I'm saying about

469
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Speaker 1: be Scott. Be Scott gaming would translate because he was

470
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Speaker 1: kind of a three the guy as well, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Baladiba was nice. Yeah, and this was

472
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Speaker 1: early with him. He's a big pass he was a

473
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Speaker 1: passing big man, right, which would be great right now,

474
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Speaker 1: he'd be a poor man joke that they was, you

475
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So Magic had really great talent

476
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Speaker 1: around Yeah. And then you know it's funny when they

477
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Speaker 1: talk about Steph, they really like breaking down the weaknesses

478
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Speaker 1: of the guys around him. You know, they always want

479
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Speaker 1: to talk about what Draymond can't do right and they

480
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: always forget about what he can do. And then Clay

481
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: they always try to call him one dimensional. He's always

482
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Speaker 1: been a great two way player. Plus he just had

483
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Speaker 1: two injury. Yeah yeah, and you just said it. You know,

484
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Speaker 1: where's coming in because they try to say it was

485
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Speaker 1: Kadie and then where's coming in? And steps still do it.

486
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: Then you got young player in pool. You know, he

487
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: was regarded as the worst draft in the draft, right

488
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: guy said that, Yes, the worst pick us far in

489
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Speaker 1: the draft. Steph got this guy out here. He's about

490
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Speaker 1: to get a hundred million, So I think for you know,

491
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Speaker 1: always a fan of Jason Kidd is one of my

492
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Speaker 1: favorite point guards. He always got his guys the max contract.

493
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Speaker 1: So it ain't all the way about your number, but

494
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Speaker 1: the guys what they can do around you. Steph's done

495
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Speaker 1: everything you can imaginely think of in terms of basketball,

496
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Speaker 1: whether he's got the stats for him steps he's got

497
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Speaker 1: the chips, and what he's done for his teammates and

498
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Speaker 1: on top of magic, did it with the Lakers in

499
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Speaker 1: terms of the valuation the Lakers had when he got

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Speaker 1: in and look at the valuation of the Warriors, when

501
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: they brought the team with Steph versus right now, it's

502
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Speaker 1: just it's just astronomical solo. I. You know, everybody wants

503
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Speaker 1: to try to put different parameters on what makes you great? Well,

504
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: he's he's He's checked off every box. It's Steph really

505
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Speaker 1: a point guard. Considered that Draymond really runs the offense

506
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Speaker 1: or the two masquerading as a point because I think

507
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of two. I think Dame Lillard,

508
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Speaker 1: I think Job, I think all these guys get that

509
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Speaker 1: really too, Like that really two's masquerading. So this is

510
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna sound off, but it's not. But Draymond is so smart.

511
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: He just knows where to throw the ball because he

512
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: knows them too. Killer's gonna catch him. Yeah, So I

513
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Speaker 1: don't think his assists are inflated because most guys don't

514
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Speaker 1: know where they like the ball, don't know how to

515
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Speaker 1: get it to him. When they get it to him,

516
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: what played the call? But you know, Draymond is like

517
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Speaker 1: the point a point guard out there. But that d

518
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: that drill a hand up that Draymond be doing off

519
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: and sometimes he doesn't. He'll like fake he gonna hand

520
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: it off and then go dunk it. But he knows

521
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Speaker 1: how to bounce it. He sees Steph coming, he'll bounced

522
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Speaker 1: the ball, no step on to a certain places the

523
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Speaker 1: way he can hit clay. And they don't never have

524
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Speaker 1: to break rhythm. That's an art that's comes from playing

525
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Speaker 1: with someone for such a long period of time and

526
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Speaker 1: knowing that person. But I will say that David Lee

527
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: was an All Star. Yeah, step was out there. So

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Speaker 1: I do believe like Steph as a great dynamic with

529
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Speaker 1: his power forward, right, And if you get a high

530
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: IQ power forward, they're gonna be succeeded. But when you

531
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Speaker 1: get a power forward like Draymond, who's the high probably

532
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Speaker 1: the top i Q guy in the NBA history, Like

533
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: he'sn't a top one percent, Yeah, it's a deadly combination.

534
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: Look Steph. And that's what I say about the athletes.

535
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: They pretend I don't hear, I don't care. I don't

536
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: care if they do care, and they do here and

537
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: if they don't hear it, they got some homeboys that

538
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: hurt it. And if the homeboys didn't hear it, they

539
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: got family members that hurt it. But somehow it finds

540
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: a way to get back. And Steph Curry made it

541
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Speaker 1: a point to be known. I heard what y'all were saying.

542
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Speaker 1: Don't think I didn't hear it. Now because y'all said

543
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Speaker 1: I got the other the first one, Okay, y'all don't

544
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: want to give me no credit. Y'all talk about I

545
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: played bad. It got the MVP. Fine, that's fine. The

546
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: next two I played unbelievable. Kadi got the MVP. He

547
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: deserved those MVP. But y'all make it seem like I

548
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: was like a role player. Yeah, yeah, and so now, no,

549
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: KD I did this. What y'all want to say? Now?

550
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: What was he like behind the scene? Because I know

551
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: he was glowing. I mean he steph see people, little

552
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: step he say, he's look at this, a little six

553
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: foot six two step. He's so cute and cut any

554
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: thinking all the time. Yeah, I told you, you know what.

555
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: Draymond my eyes one day, and I hope I don't

556
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: get Draymond in trouble. But Draymond was spot on. Draymond

557
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: watches closely. I'll watch it closely. Another guy watching closely.

558
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: People don't really picture to its. Kamond Looney Kamon twenty

559
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: six years old in the league, twelve years to see

560
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: but quiet has kept uh, consistent wise, loom might have

561
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: had a third best year for US. Yeah, you know,

562
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: Steph wigs and you know, Pool was nice, but he

563
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: was a little inconsistent because he's young. But consistency Loon

564
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: was getting four points eighteen rebounds. Ye. So but I'm

565
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: just saying US three watching And Draymond said it one day,

566
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: he said, step like that. Don't get it twisted. Steph

567
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: like that, Steph like that attention. But it's a competitor. Yeah,

568
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: petitors attend like, oh, y'all, Oh, y'all, y'all, y'all think

569
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: it's a game. Huh Yeah, yeah, y'all think it's sweet.

570
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: And we used to always say, like, guys think Steph

571
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: sweet and they get in the court and they're like, man,

572
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: his light skin, do them about to kill him? And

573
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: before they know it, now all the guys in the

574
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: league say the same thing, like I didn't know he

575
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: was that good, but man, I look up he had

576
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: thirty and but now guys know it. And then he

577
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: getting the best of everybody every night. Yeah you hear

578
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: what you heard what my man from West Side Chicago said,

579
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley. I'm getting the right meal. I'm in bed

580
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: by nine thirty. I didn't watch all the film. I

581
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: got a big one tomorrow. I gotta go get Steph

582
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: Curry every night, Yeah, every night, and he keep he

583
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: keeps doing it. He's been doing it. Yeah. And then

584
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: this year before the injury, we got off to eighteen

585
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: one start right, So it wasn't like it was a fluke, like, Oh,

586
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: we're about to really run it. We're about to really

587
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: run through y'all. So r him. He's got that ego

588
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: win him where he's He wants to all to know, like,

589
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: I'm really one of them dudes. I want to know

590
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: the pitch. You guys went to sag Harbor about four

591
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: or five years ago to recruit this one guy. So

592
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: when you're on the flight the private jet going over there,

593
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: what are you talking? Okay, who's gonna talk first? What's

594
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna be? What are you gonna tell him? What are

595
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: you gonna tell him? How do we convince him to

596
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: come to Golden State and play with a guy that's

597
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: a two time MVP. You're unanimous MVP three guys of

598
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: all for four. You guys have all gone to the

599
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: All Star Game. Draymond was, you know, on the custom

600
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: of being defensive Player of the Year, Clay of the

601
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: top five shooter all time. So what's the pitch? How

602
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: do you convince Kevin Durant to come to Golden State

603
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: and link up with you guys? I mean, we all

604
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: played ball. We've been playing ball against each other since

605
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: we were kids. Steph Clay, you no, Steph, myself and

606
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: Katie we have been teammates before. People didn't remember that

607
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: twenty ten World Championships. We were on the same team, right,

608
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: so we got the chance to spend some time with

609
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: each other practice every day. That was one of my

610
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: favorite basketball trips all of us. And I think what

611
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: you find out about a lot of basketball players. This

612
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: is my reason to go into going to the Warriors.

613
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: You've been I have been in the league ten years,

614
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: ten years A long time in the league. Yeah, and

615
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I'm My whole thing is I want to play basketball.

616
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: I have fun. I just want to have joy. I

617
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: want to wake up in the morning and I want

618
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: to look forward to going to going to work. That's

619
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: all I want to do. And Katie was around the

620
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: same time in his career, and you had seen what

621
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: he had been going through. You be seen Chris Paul

622
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: go through still to this day, they're gonna try to

623
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: hold that over Chris Paul head forever. And I try

624
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: to tell people Chris Paul is one of the greatest

625
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: winners of all times, which just so happens. It may

626
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: not be in the books for you to win a championship,

627
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: but who's to say that your career is less than

628
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: diut because you didn't win a chip. You still wanted

629
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: the top at what you do all time and you

630
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: get tired. Here in that noise, you just said that.

631
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: We all hear it. So I think the pitch was listen, man,

632
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: you're the best best basketball player in the world. Nobody

633
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: arguing that, and you play your best when you enjoy

634
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: the game. We didn't played against Katie multiple times. We

635
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: just played. We were down three one of him. We

636
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: came back and we had been seeing him over the years.

637
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: You know the game you broke his foot. He had

638
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: thirty five and it was eight minutes to go in

639
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: the second quarter. Like we know, Katie, Listen, we just

640
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: want you to come here and have fun. Man, whatever

641
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: you want to do, we're gonna we're gonna make sure

642
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: you have fun and we're gonna win. And I think

643
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: That was the big part of it, just being a

644
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: reinsurance that you know there's no egos because you know

645
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: that's going to affect the team or anything. Yeah, most

646
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: people don't understand how the ego affects the team more

647
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: than anything else. It ain't about exits and those, it's

648
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: it's really the pros and Jose that can yall get

649
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: along and right and just everybody's it feels like they're

650
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: being value rights. It's easy when you got one guy

651
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: and then you got a bunch of other guys. Correct.

652
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: But Steph at that point in time was equal because

653
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: he had won back to back MVPs. He was already

654
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: a champion. Kevin Durant had an MVP, but he hadn't

655
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: won a championship yet. So theoretically on a pedestal, why

656
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: while you might think that Kevin Durant was the better player,

657
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: Steph had accomplished more. So, now how do you get

658
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: those guys? And for Steph, I think Steph was the

659
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 1: key because Steph gotta be willers like go ahead, Katie right,

660
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: slide that, Hey, get up out the seat and let

661
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Katie because without Steph blessings, first of all, you're not

662
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: even on that plane. If Steph says, no, we're not

663
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: doing this, We're not doing it, Bob May, Steve Kurry like, okay, bro,

664
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: we're good there. True And I think what hasn't been

665
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: spoken enough is that I think Steph took a back

666
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: seat for how long was Katie there? Three years? Three years?

667
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: I think Steph took a back seat every year he did.

668
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about stats. Why yeah, numbers rise and simps wise,

669
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Clay was getting most shots, Clay Clay told you, but

670
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: I ain't sacrifice for nobody, but Clay is gonna be playing.

671
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: We love Clay, but Steph was that one that sacrifice

672
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: the most. You know, how many more threes would he have?

673
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: If Katie and come along? You know what I'm saying, Like,

674
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: like you know and the plus we guy, you guys

675
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: blowing into everybody out, Just imagine who you're playing. Mean,

676
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Steph will playing like thirty minutes a night exactly exactly,

677
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: and no one talks about you know, he never complained,

678
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: never had an issue, never talked about his brand. You know,

679
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: his brand probably possibly could have took a hit, right,

680
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't quite selling as many shoes, you

681
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And he just kept it all

682
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: in stride because I think he just knew that the

683
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: bigger picture, man, when you win, everything else is gonna

684
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: come home. I supposed to come He what's he like

685
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: off the court, off the court staff is who he is.

686
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: He's interesting individual because he doesn't get outside himself, you know,

687
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: no matter where he is, he you know, he's comfortable

688
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: in his own skin. And I think that's coming from

689
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: that background and he had because he and Claire are

690
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: similar in terms of nothing faces them like. They've seen

691
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: it all. They've seen the who blah, the fathers that

692
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: played in the NBA, so they kind of know what

693
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: to expect, so nothing really phases them. So they don't

694
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: really have to go search for attention, you know, they

695
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: don't have to really look the part for anybody to

696
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: really accept them. They say, I've been through all this,

697
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: I've been to a million NBA games before I played

698
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: my first NBA game, Right, I just want to go

699
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 1: out here and who is what I love doing? And Uh,

700
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: I think that is one of the blessings that you know,

701
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: we don't see as much, is that that balance that

702
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: we have is because those two came from the NBA

703
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: and then you know other balances that that crazy man

704
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: on the other end with the fire. It's just an

705
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: amazing balance, you know, Like we can just cover every

706
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: part of every aspect of the picture, and I think

707
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: that's what makes for a great culture. You guys win

708
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: the time. Did you go into that? Man? Man, I

709
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: want to win this so bad because there's so many

710
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: people I want to say, shut though, you know what up?

711
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Clay got up there, says man. Them bumps

712
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: from Memphis Draymond with Draymond was going crazy, Stale was talking.

713
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Did you guys think about that before you want to type? Like,

714
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, I want to win. There's some people I

715
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: want to tell some things. I think. I think it

716
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: got there once we got to the finals, you know,

717
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: once once I saw the way the playoff picture was

718
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: mapped out, I was like, whoa, we got a real chance.

719
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: We just gotta take care of business each round. We

720
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: can't slip up, right, because I think with us, you know,

721
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: if we lose the wrong game, that's it for us.

722
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: That's all right, Achilles Hill. We lose the wrong game

723
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: and then our confidence way for a little bit. We

724
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: kind of wacky like that. But I knew if we

725
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: took care of business through each round would be good.

726
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: And then once we got to Dallas and we went

727
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: up what we went up two oh yeah? And then

728
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: we should have went up I think we went up

729
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: three oh yea, we went up three oh yeah. So

730
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: once once we got to the finals, I knew Boston

731
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: was good and I said, we gotta win. We don't win,

732
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: it's over. We gotta win. And I need Wiggs to

733
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: play at a high, high level. And Wiggs and I

734
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: had that conversation. I said, Wiggs, if you play at

735
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: a high level, I don't even think I gotta play.

736
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Coach ain't gonna put me in. You play at a

737
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: high level, we gonna win it. What do you think

738
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: if you go down old one, you go down two one?

739
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: With Game four still in Boston, right, so what's what's

740
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: what's the mindset of game four? You're down two one,

741
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to go even though you got stuff

742
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: a historically generational talent, you don't want to go down

743
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: three one because the likelihood it's happened before. You're on

744
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: the team that got tracked down three one. But you

745
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: know the odds are not in your favorite running somebody

746
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: down three one. We've been down to one before our

747
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: first championship. Cleveland had US two one two one. People

748
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: forget that similar situation. We had home quarter advantage. So

749
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: we lose game one. Game one was kind of funky

750
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: because you got a lead and they came back. Game

751
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: one was funky. There's a few things that happened in

752
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: game one and I'm looking up at the scoreboard and

753
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, why the games so close? Something ain't right right.

754
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: Or I'm watching the game and you know you're watching

755
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: two close. Now you start a conspiracy theory, like listen, man,

756
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: that that I don't know, man, that that's that killed

757
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: that killed our run. I don't want to say what

758
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: killed the run, but that killed the run. That killed

759
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: the run, and it wasn't really what Boston was doing.

760
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: So I'm confident in that sense. Like Dan, we gave

761
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: the game away and they took it, and they had

762
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: to make some shots. They had to make some shots,

763
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: and they shot what seventy five percent from three late

764
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: in that second half. It was crazy. So I saw

765
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: that and I'm like, all right, we're good. Now we

766
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: lose game three, but game three, I was confident. I said,

767
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: all we figured him out. They won Game three, they

768
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: got home, they got the energy, the crowd was incredible.

769
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: You know, Draymond was trying to figure his thing out.

770
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm like Draymond to figure out. I'm not worried about him.

771
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: We played hard as we can Game four with one

772
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: game four. Now we're going back home. I just need

773
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: Steph to give me a Michael Jordan finished, and it's

774
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: crazy what Steph was really good and they considered that

775
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: his bad, his worst game, right, But Steph was doing

776
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: all the intangible right. Wiggins played out of his mind,

777
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: and Wiggins played out his game out of his mind.

778
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Who has some big plays in game five? He didn't

779
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: have twenty points, so people don't know the impact of

780
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: a guy who might only have eleven points, who was

781
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: a big key to game five. Then I said, Steph

782
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: gonna finish him off. And then Steph, Steph got rid

783
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: of them boys. You got I mean, what is it

784
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: about you and Memphis? Because Memphis knocked you guys out

785
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: of the play and a couple of years ago, not

786
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: good about you. Weren't there. I was, But so what

787
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: is it? What is it? What is it about Memphis?

788
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Is it young? And they don't know any better than

789
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: they should lead the elders along. Because Jaws talking, Dylan

790
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Brooks is talking. I mean these guys and the fans

791
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: were bought into it. Uh you know, they'd be playing

792
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: whipped that trick and dre Bide had the tiles. He

793
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we will whipped that tricks and yeah

794
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: we all about that one. Is it about Memphis the

795
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Grizzlies and you guys that it caused us such an

796
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: intense robbery. I think we bring the best out of

797
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: our opponents, and we've always had a we had a

798
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: we've had a great competitive history with Memphis. When they

799
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: had Zebo, when they had to Saw, they had Connie, Yeah,

800
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: they had Tony Allen. They add us down to one

801
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: as well and it was second round and I think

802
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: that was twenty fifteen. So they've always played that great

803
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: and grind type basketball. And I think this this Memphis team, now,

804
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: they're a well oiled machine. They got a good front

805
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: office that knows how to pick talent. They got a

806
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: good coach that puts everybody in the position to succeed.

807
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: And it's like you said, you got your main guy,

808
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: and it's not like they have others because they got

809
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: a lot of talent, but everyone accepts their love. Jaren

810
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: Jackson love him. I even love Dylan Dyaling so crazy

811
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: that he needs to be crazy to be an NBA.

812
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I always tell people sometimes, why is that guy so confident?

813
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: If that guy wasn't that confident, he would not be

814
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: an NBA. He needs that confidence to be who he

815
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: is now. He might be feast of famine, but he

816
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: needs to be that confident and crazy to be in

817
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: the NBA. And they got some other guys on the team. Yeah,

818
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: people don't give will Zaire, young boy, he's gonna be great.

819
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: And Steven Adams is one of the guys who you know,

820
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: he just he has that presence out there. And Cavon

821
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Looney was a big part of while we won that series.

822
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, we switched up the matchups a little bit,

823
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: and you know he started having the sixteen eighteen rebounds.

824
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: I think he might have had twenty. Yeah, yeah, it was.

825
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: It was crazy. So I think they're just a well

826
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: old machine. I did say it in one of our

827
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: scouted meetings that they too, they're too young to even

828
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: understand in what they're doing. You know what I'm saying, Like,

829
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: once you start really understanding the pressure of I have

830
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: to win. It changes. I don't think they understand the

831
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: pressures of having to win. So they just played free

832
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: and they played with their confidence. And that's a scary

833
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: team right when you guys. Now, obviously Kevin Durant requested

834
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: a trade, and you know, Phoenix the Miami Heat were

835
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: the first two teams on his on his list, But

836
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: there are very few teams that have draft picks and

837
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: the young talent that the Brooklyn Nets. The one team

838
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: that has the talent young talent that can satisfy the

839
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: Nets and the draft picks is the Warriors. Do you

840
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: think the Warriors should be willing to revisit the Kevin

841
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Durant and give up It's gonna probably It's gonna probably

842
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: cost you Jordan Pool and Commingo and mood It, maybe

843
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Wiseman and some draft picks, maybe Andrew Wiggins. Maybe they

844
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: have to move Ben Simmons because you got two good

845
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: rickey guys on the max contracts, so both of those

846
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: guys can't build the same team. But it's gonna cost

847
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: you three or four over your young talented guys and

848
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: some draft picks. Is that something that you believe the

849
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: Goldens the Warriors are interested in, or be would be

850
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: willing to be interested in. I think Katie has put

851
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: himself in there on that that tear, and it's only

852
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: it's only two or three of those guys. You know

853
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: you're looking at bron Kadie. You stay putting stuff on there,

854
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: for sure? Yannis, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yannis, yannest for sure.

855
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I think when you got guys like that and they've

856
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: given they looking at you, it's like that meme, would

857
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: the dude hold hands with this girl and then you

858
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: look back, I gotta look again. It's one of those situations,

859
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You gotta look at it

860
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: because he's just that good and we've won so much

861
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: that people don't understand how hard it is to win

862
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: a championship. Period. I'm talking about any sport. It's one

863
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: of the hardest things you can do. And then when

864
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: you start winning, so many people assume that it's just easy, right,

865
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: so they looking like, nah, I we'll just get another

866
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: one without such a such or we could do nah

867
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: like you. You gotta keep stacking. You gotta win. Every

868
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: team that's ever won a championship has been the more

869
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: talented team in the entire league, and it's just been

870
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: like that, you gotta have talent. So with that talent,

871
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: you gotta look. Joe loves the young core, He loves,

872
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: he loves He's got this thing, you know, you know,

873
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: they thinking light year speed, light years ahead. That's his moniker.

874
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: And he's like, I got a championship group now, and

875
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I got a championship group group. I'm

876
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: trying to build within it, which is you don't see

877
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: that at all, and you know that's kind of but

878
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's gotta look. So it's gonna be

879
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: a difficult decision to make with him. You joined the

880
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: Warriors after playing with the Nuggets. What transpired I think

881
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: with George Carl called you a mall u not a

882
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: whole lot of players the form of players like George

883
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: car right, Boogie Cousins had a lot to say. I

884
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: think you said some things about him. What transpired with

885
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: the Nuggets and then Golden State because if I'm not mistaking,

886
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Golden State beat you guys in the playoffs, right, and

887
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: then you later joined them that following up, Yeah, we

888
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: were the third seed. Gallow goes down with an ACL

889
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: tear like three games left for the playoffs. Timby Magoy

890
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Moscot broke his thumb before the last game of the season,

891
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: and uh, we just got caught in the bush. Steph

892
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: starts shooting the threes and running down the court before

893
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: went in. You know, he just you know, that's like

894
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: the coming out party. So it was a great series.

895
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: They beat us fair and square. But it was one

896
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: particular thing that happened where we had an interest in,

897
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: uh Scott report, you know, with Stephen Clay. You know,

898
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: we're just gonna rough him up a little bit, you

899
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And uh it was getting a

900
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: little borderline, you know, and get a borderline dirty. Yeah.

901
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: So I'm I was never a fan of I can't

902
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: stop you, So I'm gonna try to rough you up

903
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I'm you know, man, man the

904
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: best man win. You know. I feel like I'm the

905
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: better player, and if you get me to there, you

906
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: got me. And I remember George carl I mean not

907
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: George Mark Jackson. You know, I'm in front of the

908
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: bench and he was like, Yo, y'are trying to hurt

909
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: my players. Why y'are trying to hurt my players? And

910
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, Coach, I don't. I don't move like that.

911
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't move like that. That was it,

912
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: that was all you say. That was it. I don't.

913
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't play like that, coach. And I think after

914
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: the game, you know, Mark and I joke with Markus said, Mark,

915
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: you threw me under the table. He's like, how I

916
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: throw you on the table? I said, you know, after

917
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: the game, Mark said, you know, I'm pretty sure that

918
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: I got confirmation from one of the players that the

919
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: scout report was to hurt my guys. And you know,

920
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: we understand how we talk to each other. Listen, I'm

921
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: basketball one on one. We're gonna compete. You beat me,

922
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: you beat me. That's how I moved, right. But everybody

923
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: in the world know what the scout report. You just

924
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: watching right. You know, our biggs is crashing into the guys.

925
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: They bit clumsy, you know, steps they running into the

926
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: you know you can see it. So that was the

927
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: sentiments coming out of that. And George didn't have an

928
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: adjustment for them boys, and them boys beat us, and

929
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: typical George, George gonna run with a narrative that he's

930
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna run away from what it was you just got

931
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: out coach, right, you didn't make any adjustment, so let

932
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: me look for something else. And he's done it throughout

933
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: his career. He wrote a book and he has some

934
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: things about, you know, young African American men, and his

935
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: reason for why they aren't as successful under him is

936
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: because they didn't have fathers. He's done. He says some

937
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: things about some African American players that I didn't take

938
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: too kindly of. And you know, we haven't seen George

939
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: in a while, and he's just looking for attention. So

940
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: you'll see him on Twitter, you know, every other week.

941
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: He's just looking for some controversy and just looking, you know,

942
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: to bring his stature back up. Considering that the Draymond

943
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: k D, that was a situation KD wants the ball

944
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: late in the ball game, Draymond gets the rebound. Draymond's

945
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: bringing up like he's done so many times in that situation,

946
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: KD normally got would get the ball to KD. He

947
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: bustled up the court. Draymond said, hey, I got it

948
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: this time. Just get on down the court. I'm gonna

949
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: get you a better shot. Whatever happens happened, Right, they

950
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: go to the bench, neither guys willing to let that

951
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: situation go. What are you thinking? It's certain situations. You

952
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: gotta know your teammates, right, and you know you got

953
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: certain teammates who in certain situations you can't calm them down.

954
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: You gotta let them just get it out, right. And

955
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: then you know, I've been in situations where I had

956
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: some tense interactions, you know, with my teammates or with Draymond,

957
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: and I may understand, all right, let him get it

958
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: out or no, now it's the time for me to respond.

959
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Now it's the time for me to you know, come

960
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: with this approach. So it's all time and everything. So

961
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: that was that was a wild situation because you don't

962
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: see that that often, right, So now you're just assessing,

963
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: like how should we move because we had never Draymond,

964
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: we've seen Draymond behaving this matter before. We had never

965
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: seen Kevin Durant get upset publicly at a teammate, right,

966
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: So it's like, damn, I mean, and then what was

967
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: what was? Why did it? Why did he get to this?

968
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I understand that you wanted the ball. It

969
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: didn't get you the ball, but it's not a big deal. No,

970
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: no big deal and or to get it or to

971
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: escalate like it did. Did anything change because everybody said

972
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: that didn't change, but it felt like from the outside,

973
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: it felt like a lot changed, Diggy, I don't think,

974
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, I don't think too much

975
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: changed because we still got back to the finals. Yeah,

976
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: and then you know, it took Katie Achilles for us

977
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: to lose the finals, and Katie's play Torres acl in

978
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: game six. And you know when it's still cool, when

979
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: it's still playing cars, when it's still laughing and talking

980
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: and going around because something had that. I I mean, you know,

981
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: grown me now, you know how we are getting We

982
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: but we butt head like that there. But I think

983
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: I think I've seen I've seen teammates actually nothing, of course,

984
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: but they cool afterwards. Yeah, we handled like men. We

985
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: squashed what we move forward right, And I think we

986
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: did everything we were supposed to do that year in

987
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: terms of making sure that we kept that thing tighten it,

988
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: making sure like we didn't have too many leagues. But

989
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: y'all suspend the Draymond. It was almost like y'all suspend

990
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: the Draymond to show Katie we got your back. We're

991
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna spending him because we won't you to reside. That

992
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: would have looked like from the outside and would look

993
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: like to me. But we just had a conversation when

994
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: if you got that top tier talent, what you're gonna do?

995
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, not only is it smart financially for the business,

996
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: but it's smart to get wins, it's smart to try

997
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: to keep it. Like, yeah, you gotta do you in

998
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: a championship. You gotta have the best talent, beautiful talented guy,

999
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: one of the most talented ever. Yes, every so, But

1000
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, I think there was

1001
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: faults all around. It wasn't just one guy. Did you

1002
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: have a team meeting? Did you guys, did you guys

1003
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: ever discussed that? Yeah, we had discussions eternally because we

1004
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: all tight with each other, like you know, we we

1005
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: we boys were family, were family, end of the day.

1006
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: Like that is bigger than basketball family, right, So let's

1007
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: just handled like family. So you know, they handled their

1008
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: business and then we kind of, you know, did what

1009
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: we had to do. So you know, I think that's

1010
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: what was beautiful coming out of that is that we

1011
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: didn't really had no leaks. You know, Uh, we had

1012
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: good days we had bad days. We talked through it,

1013
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody's tight to this day. But it

1014
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: was a lot coming from that, you know, it was

1015
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: I think it was tough for some guys too. When

1016
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: you don't you still hear noise after you've accomplished things, right,

1017
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, we keep winning and we keep accomplishing things,

1018
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: but we just keep getting hit, We keep getting attacked, right,

1019
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: we can't solidify that y'all messed up the league. This

1020
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: ain't fair. You know, other guys on other teams, you know,

1021
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: my best friend, Ever Turner, is like, yo, man, this

1022
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: is not cool. Man. I'm this ain't fair. We don't

1023
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: have a chance, and so it's just giving. It's given

1024
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: skip an opportunity. Everybody's still so it's just like this

1025
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: is this is really beautiful for the game of basketball

1026
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: because we still playing team basketball. We still number one

1027
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: the league and assist we're still top five in defense.

1028
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: We're playing basketball the right way, so it's not like

1029
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: we're just cheating. We really executing at a very high level.

1030
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: And human nature, we hear it. You said it, you know,

1031
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: we hear it. We watch everything and whether we like

1032
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: it or not, things affect us and it can determine

1033
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: how we react to the noise. So one guy might

1034
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: react this way, another guy might not react that way.

1035
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: And you know, one guy may be saying, you know,

1036
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: one ft and one foot out because he's tied another noise.

1037
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: Another guy might be saying, I see this guy on

1038
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: the way out. You know, not that that happened, But

1039
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: you just start assuming. And what they say assuming is

1040
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: you making an ass out of you and me. And

1041
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: then now you got fictional beef and you don't know

1042
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: where it came from and just slowly treppt in. And

1043
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: that's one thing we were good at with keeping that

1044
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: noise out. And I think it's just like the noise

1045
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: kind of crept in and just threw us off a

1046
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Do you believe Steph would be as accepting

1047
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: of k D a reunion with k D as he

1048
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: was in the beginning, considering that they just won a championship,

1049
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be honest with you, I do not

1050
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: believe had you not gotten KD, you could have ever

1051
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: beaten the Cavaliers again after they walked you down three one.

1052
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: Kyrie was on a different level. Lebron was always on

1053
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: that level. I'm glad You say Kyrie was on another level,

1054
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: don't know Kyrie was on another level. Kyrie, Kyrie had

1055
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: a ride. I don't believe if you don't get k

1056
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: D I don't believe you can beat the Cavaliers that

1057
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: they again because they had gained so much confidence from

1058
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: coming back from down one three, as opposed to you

1059
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: guys had to have lost confidence because that was the

1060
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: first time in the history of the NBA Finals someone

1061
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: had came back. So it was almost like it was

1062
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: a match made in heaven. Katie needed you, guys, to

1063
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: solidify his place as a champion. You needed him to

1064
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: continue this run. There. It is point blank period. I

1065
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: do think we are built. Uh we got we got

1066
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: the way our cloth is built. It's something in that

1067
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: DNA that isn't quantifiable in terms of our toughness because

1068
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: we've been down before, We've been down three one two.

1069
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: We just went down three one two. Who I felt like?

1070
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: Who I felt like was the best team in the league. Yeah,

1071
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: I felt like, okay s was the best team in

1072
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: the league. They had the most size, they had surgeries

1073
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: playing his best his career. Steven Adams was doing his thing. Kadie.

1074
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: They got seven. They got three seven footers on the

1075
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: front line, right and one of them can't be stopped

1076
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: from anywhere the court, right, and you know, and they

1077
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: got Reggie jack and playing well. Yeah, yeah, Dion Waiders

1078
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: was playing well. He was like they got him on

1079
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: the steal. And then Russ was being Russ. You know.

1080
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: Then they had I think Morrow was on that team.

1081
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: They had some shooters, they had thought Polosha was one

1082
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: of the top defindishers in the league two he's six eight.

1083
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: They were just built to win it, and we actually

1084
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: walked them down. So there's we got that DNA too

1085
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: where we got that confidence. So I don't think our

1086
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: confidence waiver. We just you know, Cleveland came through with

1087
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: the bus all situation happening with Draymond. Raymond plays game five,

1088
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: y'all win, the series is over, probably because we have

1089
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: don't forget Bogs went down games get Bogs went down

1090
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: Game five. I believe he done for the year, right,

1091
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: So you know, and we still had the opportunity in

1092
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: in game seven, we were one sub away. I talked

1093
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: to Steve after the game. I would never say it,

1094
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: but we were one subleway from winning the championship. Right,

1095
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: So we had the confidence. But yeah, they have KD.

1096
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm taking KD all day, every day. Yeah, I'm I'm

1097
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of success playing with Kevin Durant.

1098
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: Two thousand and ten World Championship was his coming out party,

1099
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: and then two NBA Championship coming out of that. Yeah,

1100
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: it's and then I played with him in the Olympics

1101
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Right, I'm pretty much undefeated with Katie.

1102
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: So but but you you believe Steph is open to

1103
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: a reunion with Kevin Durant. I haven't had that conversation

1104
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: with Steph quite honestly. You know, I think either of

1105
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: different plays. Now we've been we've just been enjoying winning

1106
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: the league. I called his money Heist that show on Netflix, Yeah,

1107
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: where they everybody know everybody in the world. No, man,

1108
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: it's just it's just eight people that just keep robbing

1109
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: us of everything. We see him coming, We know they're

1110
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: about to come here and get it, and we can't stop. Right.

1111
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: That's how it summed up this year. We start off

1112
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: eighteen and one, so y'all know we're here. Y'all notice

1113
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: ain't no fluke, right, And then we had a little

1114
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: slippers with some injuries, and then playoffs start and I'm like,

1115
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: and we're looking like, oh this sweet, we lock in,

1116
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna, we're gonna, we gonna come get another one.

1117
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Don't let us come get this right because y'all know

1118
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. And we come, Draymond gonna be Draymond.

1119
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: We come and get this when y'all don't like here,

1120
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, day you have been a limit. But

1121
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: steps but when you guys got when when Stepham got

1122
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: knocked out of the playout at the play in Memphis,

1123
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: he said, we had some injuries, he say, but y'all

1124
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: better get us now because y'all don't want to see

1125
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: us next year. He foretold of what was to come. Yes,

1126
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: And I think my first it's funny because my first, uh,

1127
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: when I signed with the Warriors two thousand and thirteen,

1128
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: and uh, you do the press conference, you say, we're

1129
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: supposed to say, PC, I'm coming here to try to

1130
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: win a championship, right, Nobody take you serious? Right, But

1131
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, I think I've met the closest

1132
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: thing to Jesus Christ. Not to put that on him, right,

1133
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: but I've never seen an individual night. He doesn't straight

1134
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: away from who he is in terms of who he

1135
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: is as a person. So you know what you're getting

1136
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: night and night out, and I can see it, and

1137
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, I'm about to go try to win

1138
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: a championship. And then we win a couple and then

1139
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: he comes out and he says, y'all better get his

1140
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: night because we're coming back. I think y'all need to

1141
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: start taking step more serious when he's talking, because y'all

1142
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: are just so used to him being the baby faith killer,

1143
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: this nice kid. You know his faith is very strong. Huh.

1144
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: He that faith is strong. That means he got that

1145
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: faith is real. So what he's saying he really believing,

1146
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: and thus far it's all come true. Before you play

1147
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: with him, did you realize how good stuff was? I

1148
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: mean to watch it from a distance, he's like, damn man,

1149
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: dude making all these shots, and then you get up

1150
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: close to him and you watch him in practice and

1151
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: you see the things that he does before he even

1152
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: stepped foot on the court. Did you realize stuff with

1153
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: this good like generational, like transcendent good. Yeah. So when

1154
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: I saw him when he was younger, I saw the deficiencies.

1155
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: So I'm the type of basketball mind when I'm just

1156
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: looking for your flaws, right, all right, what doesn't he do?

1157
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: And can he get better at what he doesn't do? Well? Like,

1158
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: can he can he get rid of those deficiencies? So

1159
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: early in STEP's career, Step was stinning right and he

1160
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: would get beat up and his achilles. Here was European

1161
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: guards like the Rubios, the Varrow from Spain we played

1162
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: in the World Championships, Dragic scoring, dragics so and they

1163
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: were like crafty and thin and they little chippy. So

1164
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: they you know, they hit you below the belt a

1165
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: few times here and there it might throw you off.

1166
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: And his handle wasn't always this tight, right, Steps handle

1167
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: wasn't always tight. He getting loose with the ball. He

1168
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: always been loosed to the ball with his turnovers. And

1169
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: if you just watch steps progression, he's continued to get better.

1170
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: And that's the part people don't see, you know, they

1171
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: don't see us in there in five am working out

1172
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: all the ways, were pushing you know, what's my man

1173
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: Harrison from the Steelers. Yeah, we see him. But he

1174
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: had been doing that. You know, he just gets strong.

1175
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: Step was the same way. He just he ain't just

1176
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: getting like he had been working and building up and

1177
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: he's been progression yearing year out, like this year, Luna

1178
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: and I would be on the bench saying, all right,

1179
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: it's a tight game. Later the fourth, we need step

1180
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: to be like MJ. We need him to start picking

1181
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: the game apart. You know, we don't need step to

1182
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: shoot a half court three or just pull up from three.

1183
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: We need to get to a MIDI. We need to

1184
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: need a bucket. And he start getting to it. He

1185
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: start getting the paint up and under. He saw him

1186
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: flipping the ball like he was getting like and that

1187
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: was because early on is that let's run him off

1188
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: the three, right, and but he wanted to settle. Now

1189
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Steph going off. Steph gotta got a layup package. He

1190
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: got a float game. He's not afraid to go in

1191
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: there and mix it up with the big. So now

1192
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: with the three, the three ball dropping and with his

1193
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: flow game, he's almost he's undouardable exactly. And they all

1194
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: and you've never seen a six two guys, sixty three guy,

1195
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: a guy under sixty five dominate the game the way

1196
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: ye nah, we've never seen. I mean, I mean small

1197
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: got guards. And when not talking about guards. I mean

1198
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: magic was Magic was in the fifties and sixties and

1199
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: early seventies. Magic would have been a four or five right,

1200
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: let alone a point guard. But you have to go

1201
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: back to AI to look at a guy undersize dominate

1202
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: the game and Steph, he just took it, just took

1203
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: it to it. I mean for this long because you

1204
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: see young you see Isaiah stock the head long run

1205
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: couldn't get but he Stockman couldn't dominate the game off.

1206
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about guys who did it for this long, Like, yeah,

1207
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: I had his run, but they don't even really played

1208
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: twelve years in the league, eleven years in the league

1209
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 1: and his last few years, you know, he's bouncing around

1210
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: a little bit. Isaiah had to kill his tears. His

1211
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: career really didn't last that long, So you don't You

1212
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: rarely see guys at that size really do it for

1213
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: this long. And they on a seven eight year run.

1214
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: Him Draymond Clay, he really ran through the league. They

1215
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: disrupted a lot of a lot of things for a

1216
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of guys. I think what happened, what helped him

1217
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: is that early on he had the injuries. He probably

1218
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: got that bug out of there, and so now he's

1219
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: on he's on the stretch now, but he's about to

1220
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: be healthy for for a few more years. Let me

1221
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: get you. You have an older brother, correct, How did

1222
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: he push you to become a better version of you?

1223
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: My older brother he hates when I say this, but

1224
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: he was just he was just terrible. I mean, he

1225
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: would just punish me. So he was always bigger and

1226
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: stronger than me. He's only a year and nine months,

1227
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: but he was just that big brother that was just

1228
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: he was like a bully. Right. But as I got older,

1229
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: he starts seeing how good I was, and he started

1230
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: feeding me that confidence. I never told him this. He

1231
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: was feeding me confidence. I didn't know it. So once

1232
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: I got to like my freshman sophomore year in high school,

1233
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: he he would let me hang out with him. He's

1234
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm about to go party. He was like,

1235
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: but you you're gonna do good in life. You get

1236
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: good grades and you can who stay in your room? Right,

1237
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: we'd be going to the same place a big brahmar

1238
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: Rod with you know, you ain't stay in the house.

1239
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you rock with me? I'm not

1240
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: getting it right. But then as I'm getting older, I'm like, oh,

1241
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: he really said that. You know. He was kind of

1242
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: feeding me that confidence and believing yourself correct because I

1243
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: didn't know. But when you get that confidence, like that's

1244
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: what really is taking you over the top. Right, you ran?

1245
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: You ran track? What were what were your being? I

1246
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: was a high jumper and triple jumper. I was actually

1247
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: supposed to go to college but high jump. Okay, the basketball.

1248
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: I didn't play AU but one year r so basketball

1249
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a guarantee until after my junior year. I played

1250
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: AU and had a good summer. But I think I

1251
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: was like top five in the country high jump my

1252
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: sophomore year. So I was looking at that route too.

1253
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: Trouper jump, that was my event. How far are you

1254
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: tupper jump? I was like forty seven. I would have

1255
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: got the fifty. I didn't do it my senior year.

1256
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: I would have got the fifty feet. But I was

1257
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: like forty seven forty eight feet okay my junior year. Okay,

1258
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Springfield, Illinois, what's going on? What's Springfield like? Springfield?

1259
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: Springfield gets mad at me in that Lakers hold that

1260
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: from there. It's funny. I was just watching first Prince

1261
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: of bel Air and uncle uncle what's uncle Jeffrey H. Butler,

1262
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: Jeffrey no Butler, Jeffrey L. Uncle Phild. So I'm watching

1263
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm watching first Prince last week. I'm starting from the

1264
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: beginning with my wife and uncle Phild parents come into

1265
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: town and uh, he's talking about how he marched with

1266
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: the Panthers. You know, he listened to Marcley King. I

1267
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: have a dream speech like he'd been around the way

1268
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: from from I think he said this from Baltimore, DC.

1269
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: But come to find out, Will finds out he's from

1270
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: this little small town, North Carolina, Humbucking or something like that.

1271
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: But he never wanted to identify that he was from

1272
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: there because it was a small town. No one really

1273
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: made it out. Everyone got stuck there and his parents

1274
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: were a little upset with him. And you know, I

1275
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: have an interesting relationship with Springfield where you know, I

1276
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: did read that majority NBA players come from a town

1277
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: like Springfield on hundred fifty thousand people, a small community,

1278
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, you get a basketball community, and like high

1279
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: school was big, high school basketball was huge. Idols there

1280
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: were coming from Springfield. H Most people get stuck, especially

1281
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: the African Americans, you know, we got a lot of

1282
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: great talent, but guys don't get the grades. You see,

1283
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: a lot of good athletes, they get to college for

1284
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: a semester, they en't the right back home at the

1285
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: first semester because they couldn't cut it academically. And I

1286
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: went to Arizona because I told myself, I gotta get

1287
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: as far away from home as possible because I can't

1288
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: come back because once you get back, you get stuck.

1289
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: You're not leaving again. So it's just that type of relationship.

1290
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: But you know, uh always go back and uh, you know,

1291
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: take care of the youth in terms of you know,

1292
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: whether be uh you know, jerseys and athletic apparel, iPads.

1293
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: You know, my mom does some great things with the

1294
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: y MCAU. It's a ton of talent there. You know,

1295
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: it's just getting them their mindset that there are other

1296
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: things outside of Springfield. If I work, all you guys

1297
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: went to the University of Arizona, Steve Kerk, Gilbert Arenas,

1298
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: Richard Jefferson, Mike Baby, Jason Terry, Aaron Gordon, yourself, Channing Fry,

1299
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: Luke Walton. If all you guys play on the same

1300
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: team at the same time, how far are you going

1301
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: to march madness? First of all, First of all, Gilbert

1302
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: Arenas is the best player to come out of Arizona?

1303
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: Is it? Clear cut? Not even close? What I'm a

1304
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: big I'm I'm big on Gilbert. Gilbert had everything I

1305
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: bought you for a sixty on the Lakers and a

1306
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: parent Duchy and Cabanas, remember that I do. We went

1307
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: to do Cabana and said, give me some choose that

1308
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: it's a high top and he strapped him on and

1309
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: that's they made to take him off. He scuffing up

1310
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: the court. People don't People don't know how good Gilbert

1311
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: was because you know, you get all other stuff. Have

1312
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: my statement on you know, rashid and honest, but I'm

1313
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: saying like we're talking about straight game and what I've

1314
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: seen these guys do. And you know, his career wasn't

1315
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: as long as it should have been the injury. But

1316
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: Gilbert was the best player to come out of Arizona.

1317
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: So with that saying all that, we got a chance

1318
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: to get We got a chance to get far like

1319
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: Final four championship far, We got a chance. You're in

1320
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: the two thousand and four NBA draft if they were

1321
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: to do an NBA. You were selected ninth over all

1322
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: by the Sixers. If they were to do that draft

1323
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: over again, where is Igga getting drafted? The White That

1324
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: was why Howard Wight would have been one for sure. Yeah,

1325
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: Okraf was two, being going with three, se living through

1326
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: with four. Devin Harris was five, Children's Atlanta six, Lal

1327
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: Day seventh, rug. Yeah, where you go you went night?

1328
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: I probably would have went like third if you're picking

1329
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,479
Speaker 1: off second or third, because people forget how Al Jefferson was. Yeah.

1330
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: Al Jefferson went on the run way. Yeah, Minnesota, Minnesota

1331
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: where he he was, he was twenty five and ten

1332
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: on every single night. Right, you can just pencil it

1333
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: in and so you can see Charlotte Might him and

1334
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: Millsap were pretty good out there in Utah too. Yeah

1335
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. But he had one hand.

1336
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: He only went one way, but he couldn't stop it.

1337
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: I might would might have went two, and then I

1338
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: probably would have went three. Delonte West was also in

1339
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: your draft and he's kind of falling on hard times.

1340
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: Have you reached out to him? Have you talked to Delonte?

1341
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: Have you seen him in a period of time? I haven't.

1342
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Delonte, you know, but Delonte and I

1343
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: had some really good interactions in the Rocky Transits program.

1344
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: We were actually in the same group, so I was

1345
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: I was able to see the brilliance in him, you know,

1346
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: like he's actually a brilliant individual. And yeah, it's just

1347
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: tough to see. You know, it's really tough to see.

1348
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: It's really tough to speak about because you know, it's

1349
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: just two sides, like we could help him a little

1350
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: bit more, but at the same time, get himself. He

1351
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: gotta help himself. So you know, I know Mark Cuban

1352
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: did a beautiful gesture to try to help him out

1353
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know he's gonna keep guys

1354
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: trying to help him. But you know, we gotta we

1355
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: gotta meet in the middle, right and hopefully we can't. Hey, I,

1356
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: what was it like player with Allen Iverson? Because you

1357
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: were supposed to be but you're supposed to be AI

1358
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: two point old because they half of the day our

1359
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: original AI And then you come in what was playing?

1360
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: What was playing with Ai? Like? Uh, he was like

1361
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: my big brother on the Confidence team. You know, I

1362
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: never forget I'll be in the games and I'm a rookie,

1363
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: and I wasn't expecting to start out the gate, right,

1364
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to play that much out the gate.

1365
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: You know. I earned my minutes, and I'm playing a lot.

1366
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: But now I'm playing against guys I looked up to, right,

1367
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think your high school years, you looking

1368
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: at a lot of college players, and those guys end

1369
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: up in in the league. Rick Hamilton was one of

1370
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: my favorite players, right. Rashid Wallace was one of my

1371
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: favorite players. You know, a lot of Carolina guys. Vince

1372
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: Carter was one of my favorite players, you know, Antoine Jamison.

1373
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: So I would see these guys and uh, I remember

1374
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: my Rip Hamilton experience. I was just looking at Red Hamilton.

1375
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, he could like he's an All Star, right,

1376
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: and he hadn't been an All Star yet, and and

1377
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: AI was just he looked at me and he kind

1378
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: of punched me in the chest. Sit you better than him?

1379
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: What's what's wrong with you? And that's it clicked, right,

1380
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: all right? I got you, right, I got you. And

1381
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: he slowly would surely just kind of start helping me

1382
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: with the smaller things, how to deal with the media,

1383
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, not you know, enjoy, enjoy life because they're

1384
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: gonna turn on you at some point, which eventually it happened.

1385
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: But he was just preparing me for all those things

1386
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: that I couldn't see coming. So when they happened, I

1387
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: can reflect and say, all right, he did his job

1388
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: and in terms of you know, helping me grow with

1389
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: the game and things that I would have to deal

1390
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: with that most people don't really want to talk about

1391
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: or bring up. Besides practice, is there any similarities between

1392
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: Ai and Stiff or lack of practice with one and

1393
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: practiced with the other. I think they're really true to

1394
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: who they are. Like that's the big that's a big

1395
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: similarity between them. Two lad like opposite into the spectrum,

1396
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: but they're very comfortable with who they are and they

1397
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: don't want it. Andy ain't say I'm not changing for

1398
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: any anybody. Steph would say, I'm not. I'm not changing

1399
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: to be more famous. I'm not changing to you know,

1400
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: sell myself out, or I'm not changing my faith to

1401
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, endorse this or that. Like he stays true

1402
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: to who he is A I was the same exact way.

1403
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from where I'm from. These are the

1404
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: boys that grew up with me, and they got through

1405
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: the mud with me. These are my guys. They're coming

1406
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: with me, right, you know, while lead him behind in

1407
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: the mud, I'm bringing them with me. They're gonna see

1408
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: the final things in life. I'm not changing who I

1409
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: am or where I came from just because I'll say so.

1410
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: So I would say that's that's the similarities of the two.

1411
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: If Steph ruling the game because they everybody shooting threes,

1412
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: not everybody can't shoot like stiff. If they turn it

1413
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: all it's a three point game, Analytics says. If you

1414
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: make this mini three, it's the quivalent of that mini twos.

1415
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: But you got guys that shouldn't be shooting three shooting three, Ziggy,

1416
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's guys to think all of them

1417
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: shouldn't be shooting. But did he ruin the game? I

1418
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: saw a little kid. He made a shot, and he

1419
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't he wouldn't sleep on the court. It ain't I mean,

1420
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: I see w n S Scolar Diggins did it in

1421
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: the w NBA. Congrats to her sky of having a

1422
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: great week. Yeah, but kids, the kids going to sleep

1423
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: on the court. Yeah man, Yeah, I'm taking my belt off.

1424
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: We believe out. Now. That's I think our coaching has

1425
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 1: changed a lot in every sport right over the last

1426
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: fifteen years because the money's gotten so large. Now we're

1427
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: trying to build professional athletes, and we're not coaching him

1428
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: the right way. We're not holding him accountable, we're not

1429
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: being were not disciplined in the right way. And understood

1430
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: what Mark Jackson was saying when he ruined the game.

1431
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: Step didn't ruin the game is that coaches believe everybody

1432
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: can shoot the ball like Step this guy has a

1433
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: God give him ability. And he worked on the crack.

1434
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: He worked on just don't think you can just go

1435
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: into the gym and start launching threes like, oh yeah,

1436
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: but Step do it. His father was one of the

1437
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: best three point shots all time. So he's been working

1438
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: on being a great three point shoot since he came

1439
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: out the wound. Correct, People not thinking about that. They

1440
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: just go out there and shoot a whole bunch of

1441
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: threes and we going to the league. How was Mark

1442
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: Jackson the foundation of what the Warriors later became, even

1443
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: though he didn't see them to the Promised Land. It

1444
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: was almost like, and you know, not to sound you know,

1445
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: sacrilegious or anything, but doctor King says, I have a dream,

1446
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: and he didn't get to see a lot of the

1447
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: getting buried to what we have today is that Mark Jackson,

1448
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: You yourself, Claye, step Draymond, you guys were the foundation piece.

1449
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: But what were some of the things that that that

1450
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: he developed in you guys that later helped you guys

1451
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: become the four time champions that you are. I think

1452
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: it's a it's a common thing. It's called confidence. And

1453
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about in every sport everybody that's

1454
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: a professional. It ain't but that much in terms of,

1455
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, the top talent versus the bottom. Now, I

1456
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: do think our bottom is getting a little lower. We

1457
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: gotta fix the bottom, right in all our sports, we

1458
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: gotta raise the bottom. Right, you raise the bottom. You

1459
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: got a great product and now you know, we just

1460
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: get that and guys creeping in the league that shouldn't

1461
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: be here. But that confidence thing that Mark putting them

1462
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: is something different because I know some coaches who you know,

1463
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: he take it out, like Johnny Flynn who had injuries

1464
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: and he was he was drafted beforeced that right and

1465
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: he you know, had he been in a different situation, hey,

1466
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: he might still be here right, So I think, you know,

1467
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: Steph would have was gonna be who he was, But

1468
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: I think he got there with the help of Mark

1469
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: in terms of just feeding him that that confidence every

1470
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: single day. Yeah, I got the best shooting back court

1471
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: and to hear story of the game, and and and

1472
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: then and they killed him. Yeah, you say something crazy

1473
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: right now, Like I said, Yanni, I said, Rashie Wallace

1474
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: would be like Yannest Yeah, yeah, I think you pray too.

1475
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: I think you've been in that bottle right now. You

1476
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: see she she had no false That's all I'm saying.

1477
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna eaven like that, except it stepped

1478
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: up here like she he was. He was his modern

1479
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: days Kyrie where they was upset with him because he

1480
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't upset. He wouldn't upsept you know the way that

1481
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: the league in society says this is how you got

1482
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: to move as a MAYBA player. He's like, no, I'm

1483
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: gonna do me. So he kind of fought the system

1484
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: and they kind of hurt his game. Right, But we

1485
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: go to Mark Jackson and I get his one story.

1486
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: We in front, in front of the whole team, and

1487
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: this was this is probably the most powerful moment that

1488
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And he told Steph, Steph, you are

1489
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: a guy, you are all star, You're our best player.

1490
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: You're taking the last shot. We gotta make sure your

1491
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: your numbers come first. You're gonna get your numbers every night. Now.

1492
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: If another point guard come in here and it's trying

1493
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: to outplay you or making it the matchup about you

1494
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: and him and trying to outdo you, I'll take a loss.

1495
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: I'll take a loss. You're gonna win that matchup. Wow.

1496
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: And when Mark said that in front of the whole team,

1497
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: so I ain't. Can't nobody hate, can't nobody be mad?

1498
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: The head coaches told y'all who the man is, right,

1499
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: move out the way, and he gonna make sure the

1500
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: man that he's always gonna be the man because he

1501
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: ain't gon let nobody come in there and show him up.

1502
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: And I just waited the Olympic team so I'm still

1503
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: me right, I had no problems with that. I said,

1504
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: that's the type of coach I want to play for. Wow,

1505
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: when you get that skid, curR ask you to come

1506
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: out to the bench. You've been to start of your

1507
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: whole career, right, what did that do? To you, ego.

1508
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: The ego didn't really bother me. The ego it bothered

1509
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: me that I was playing well, and I was playing well, right,

1510
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: I was playing well, you know when I the way

1511
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: I played in the finals. That's how I started off

1512
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: training camp right where I'm like, all' gonna have a

1513
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: big year. We're gonna make a run. Like I had

1514
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: some work done on my body in the off season.

1515
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: I got it right. I was feeling great, and so

1516
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: when he said come off the bench, I knew I

1517
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: would have to sacrifice my game, right, But I just

1518
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: showed through three weeks, I was playing well, playing at

1519
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: a high level. I ain't missed in a while. I'm

1520
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: feeling myself. I'm thinking about making an All Star run, right,

1521
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: And when you say come off the bench, you killed

1522
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: all my personal ain't no personal goal? Then, ain't none

1523
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: of that, ain't all defense, Ain't no none of that.

1524
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: And I think that that was the hardest part. But

1525
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: Steve went to Arizona, was coached by Coacho. I went

1526
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: to Arizona, was coached by Coacho. It was hard for

1527
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: me to be mad at him because we see basketball

1528
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: the same exact way, right, So when he's explaining it.

1529
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: We're a better team with you coming off the bench.

1530
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: Our our bench is more dynamic. You know. You know

1531
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: I can bring out staff. I'm gonna leaving Clay. He

1532
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: can get this stuff off. You know, you and Sean

1533
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: could do y'all thing. We got some explosive scores. We're

1534
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: bolsted coming off the bench. You know, confessors could catch lives.

1535
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: So we're at the very dynamics. So I just need

1536
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: you to be a Swiss Army knife. And so he

1537
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: was one hundred percent right. So it was hard for

1538
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: me to fight it. The hardest part was I knew

1539
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna have any numbers. I knew when I

1540
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: looked at the stat sheet it would look like I

1541
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: didn't play good in every game. He would say, you

1542
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: played great to night, I'm black, coach, man. I had

1543
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: four points, three rebounds, five assists, three steals. Man, this

1544
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: is this, I'm trash. But I understood what he was saying, right,

1545
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was a big part of why we

1546
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: won the game. But no one would know, right, and

1547
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: I just couldn't be mad at it. But it all

1548
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: came to fruition once it once it really mattered, which

1549
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: was in the finals, and you know the rest is history.

1550
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: How did your life change? You became the first player

1551
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: to in the award without starting a senior regular season game,

1552
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: the first MVP to not have started every game. In

1553
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 1: the finals, your every sixteen points, fourth siss about six rebounds.

1554
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: You held Lebron to thirty eight percent shooting compared to

1555
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: forty four percent without. How did you win in the finals?

1556
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: Bea MVP change your life? It ain't really change my

1557
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: life because I moved how I move, Like, I'm not

1558
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna now people look at you different finals MVP ain't

1559
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: day and the whole lot of bill. It's true. Now,

1560
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: that's one. That's one thing I gotta work on with

1561
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: myself because I'll walk around and say, all right, I

1562
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: want I want to eavy people whatever, Like I don't

1563
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: even know where the trophy is at. You know, I

1564
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: just found my rings the other day. They was underneath

1565
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: the shelf, but I was like, oh, let me put

1566
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: these on the shelf, Like right, why I stop hiding? Yeah,

1567
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: So it took me because I'm still playing. I'm still

1568
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: trying to keep that motivation, like, you know, keep keep levelheaded.

1569
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: But sometimes I gotta remind myself but who I am.

1570
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: But I think more than anything on the business side,

1571
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, I did my first tech deal right after

1572
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: as a deal I was trying to get into. It

1573
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: got rejected as soon as I went finals MVP. Three

1574
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: days later, I get an email, I got some room

1575
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: for you in this d Wow. That was my favorite partner.

1576
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: And then from there now now in Roman Lebron, Lebron

1577
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: has probably got you. Probably be sixing oh, you probably

1578
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: be sixing one in the finals if it wasn't for

1579
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: Lebron got you. In twenty sixteen Miami the block, Kevin,

1580
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: what's going through your mind? Because you gotta lay up?

1581
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: I mean step a step bound fast and tell you

1582
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 1: you gotta lay up. You know, y'all about to go

1583
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: up two points right and at that point in time,

1584
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: because points had become so hard to come by, that

1585
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: might have been. That might have been the fight of

1586
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: the deficit, the final score of the game might have been.

1587
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: You guys win by two for sure, and you go up,

1588
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: you lay the ball up, you just oh yeah, okay,

1589
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: j'all makes you clutch, you bring it back up and

1590
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 1: you right there, I'm free clear. So when when Steph

1591
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: I threw the I got the rebound, pushed it. I

1592
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: probably should have kept going, but I hit stepped to

1593
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: do two on one like we practice drills every day,

1594
01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: and then he bounces it back. I'm like, dunk on

1595
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: his head it. When I go up, he'd do my

1596
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: strip to where he would have stripped it if I

1597
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: would have dunked it right. So I had to move it.

1598
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, man, what you just say? Man,

1599
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: we ain't ain't nobody scoring. Man, just put the ball.

1600
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: Just lay it right there and don't try to do

1601
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: nothing stupid lay it in And it was one of

1602
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: the loudest, the loudest sounds I ever heard, boom, And

1603
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: when it happened, I kind of I was like damn.

1604
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, that was the loudest. I'm like,

1605
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: what just happened. I didn't even know he blocked it,

1606
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: but I heard boom, and I was like, man, that

1607
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: was cold. I was really it was like a fan moment.

1608
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that was beautiful. Yeah. I was

1609
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: just talking about George in terms of you know your

1610
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: your your opponent gets the rest of you. When he

1611
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,480
Speaker 1: blocked the shot, I'm like, God, damn, that was amazing.

1612
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: Like I had that energy, you know, and then for

1613
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: everything that come out of it, you always got to

1614
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: hear about it. Whenever, whenever you have success, somebody gonna

1615
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: remind you of did you know he was that close?

1616
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised because if y'all noticed, le Bron has

1617
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: always been chased down block and I think somewhere they

1618
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: had a cold name for it, where all all le

1619
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: Bron wanted you to do as his teammate was just

1620
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: run in front of the ball and just run through

1621
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: the offensive player. Run through him and make him, make

1622
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: him do something, just make him give me a split second.

1623
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm coming to clean it up, like that's been their thing.

1624
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: So Jr. Did with exactly. It was just like a

1625
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: set up. It was like throwing out of you, I'm

1626
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna set him up and Bron coming and like I said,

1627
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 1: I could have tried to dunk it, but I'm like

1628
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: I was too far. Man just put the ball in

1629
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: the hole and he came out of nowhere and just

1630
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: made it. Incredible play And then I'm thinking like maybe

1631
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: I should have went to the other side he had.

1632
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: It was just an amazing playing. You know. I've done

1633
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: many articles about it, and people expect me to have

1634
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: some type of you know, ill feelings. But I'm like, man,

1635
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 1: that's one of the best things I've ever heard. But

1636
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: I heard it. I ain't see it. I heard it.

1637
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 1: Coach K compared you to Scottie Pippen. Do you like

1638
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: that comparison. Well, I'm from Illinois, so you grew up

1639
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: watching Scotty was my guy. Scotty still my guys to

1640
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: this day. I played golf with Scotty right before the pendemic,

1641
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: Like Scotty is my guy. So you know, I played

1642
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: point guard growing up and they call me a little

1643
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: Penny and they call me a little Scotty. So I

1644
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: was just used to hearing that my whole basketballer. I'm

1645
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's gonna retire first? U D

1646
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: your Donna. You played with U D. He's forty two,

1647
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: Iggy eighteen years, thirty eight, Melow thirty eight, Ron thirty seven,

1648
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: BJ took a thirty seven Chris Paul. Who's gonna retire first? Man?

1649
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: If I had to bet on it, probably me, because,

1650
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: like I said, like, I got some things going on

1651
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: and the basketball starting. If football, I feel like it's

1652
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: in the interfering. I gotta you know, because because I

1653
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: got some real goals and you know, like we talked

1654
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: about overall life goals and you never knew. You never

1655
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: know where life takes you, and you get opportunities to

1656
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: do certain things you gotta take you try to be

1657
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg or Elon must somebody. Huh. Yeah, I'm trying

1658
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: to do some things because nobody like us has ever

1659
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: done it right, you know what I mean. You got

1660
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: you got Robert Smith out there, yes, who I'm a

1661
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: huge fan of. You know, I think MJ did it

1662
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: the right the way, Magic did it the right way.

1663
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: Lebron's doing it the right way, yes, you know, and

1664
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: and but they're they're figures who have you know, they're

1665
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 1: the top at what they do with all time. So

1666
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: for me, I feel like I gotta, you know, I

1667
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: gotta really be businessman to have success in that space.

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01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: So I can't I can't go into a room and

1669
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm Andrea Gadala, Like, I can't go and say I'm

1670
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: andredal at me in I'm not Michael Jordan. I can't

1671
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: do that. So for me is I'm really I'm really

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01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: tied in. I'm I'm you know, I'll do my studying

1673
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: on my own I'm going through my own school in

1674
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, making sure I'm reading the right things.

1675
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: I gotta be up to day. I gotta know what's

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: going on with the markets. I gotta know what's going

1677
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: on in the private sector and all those things. So

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: that's where my mind's been taking me. So is that

1679
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: what you do? Like when you go like, Okay, I'm

1680
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: thinking about maybe investing in this company, you read as

1681
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: much material information that you possibly can because that's your

1682
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 1: money right now. I mean that that that that's my

1683
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: bread and you know, I ain't really trying to lose it.

1684
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna make sure I know everything there is

1685
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: to know about this company before I put my heart

1686
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: money into it. And I think you're building a track too.

1687
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing. You know. Data is

1688
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: all about your history and what can you learn from

1689
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: from from historical events that prepare you for the future,

1690
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: and then how can you better bet on the future.

1691
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: And you see things before other people see it, and

1692
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 1: now you you monetizing that. That's how capitalism is, just

1693
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: having information to other people don't have before they have it, right,

1694
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: And I think when you build that track record with

1695
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 1: your own money. Now you could become a bank, you know.

1696
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: Now you could become a private equity group. It's like,

1697
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: here's my track record. I'm investing in eighty companies. Here's

1698
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: my r my annual raider returns. You know, here's you

1699
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 1: know how much money I made off that money. And

1700
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: then he's deals I've gotten into, and here's my expertise

1701
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: on board seats, and this is how I can help

1702
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: a company grow. And then these are the sectors I'm in.

1703
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: I'm in fintech, I'm in SADA, software, prop tech, health tech,

1704
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: and consumer marketplaces. So just giving people like I really

1705
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: have to prove the people that I know the space

1706
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: and I'm actual business man. So that's how you've been

1707
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: build a fund. And then obviously you know you got

1708
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: different funds with different the way they charge fees, carries,

1709
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, two and twenty, and you know you're building

1710
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: billion dollar funds. That's what generational wealth is. And that's

1711
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: how you're able to acquire a team. And then once

1712
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: you acquire a team is you know, you know they're

1713
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: building an arena cities. Now now you building in the

1714
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: city around your arena. So that's how you build generated

1715
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: Is that what you're angling for. You want to own

1716
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: an NBA team, you want to be an ownership and

1717
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know, being around Pat Riley was big

1718
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: for me. And then being able to read his book

1719
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: Winner Within and I read Uh Blood in the Garden

1720
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 1: which was on the Knicks in the nineties. Beautiful book.

1721
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: And then the churchs talks about how Pat got his

1722
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 1: ownership shares with the Miami Heat going into that shape,

1723
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: going into that situation coming from New York, and how

1724
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: he leverage the situations to get ownership and then how

1725
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: this how you set up. But you know Pat just

1726
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: didn't leverage it. He really produced in terms of what

1727
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: he did to the Heat, Like he really built that franchise.

1728
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: And they're known as they separated themselves from everyone else

1729
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: in the league in terms of how they build their

1730
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: culture and how they they maximize their talent every single year,

1731
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: Like if they got a bag guys in terms of talent,

1732
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: they still find a way to make it to the playoffs, right,

1733
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, they always overachieved. And being there seeing how

1734
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: he works and it's like, you know, you take the

1735
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: most at every situation. I took that from that situation, Yes, sir,

1736
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: appreciate your brother, appreciate your love. Yes, Sir, all my

1737
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: life and grinding all my life sacrifice hustle, bad price,

1738
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: want a slice? Got the brother of Dice to swap

1739
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: all my life. I've been grinding all my life, All

1740
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: my life, the grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle bad

1741
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: to price, want a slice, Got the brother Dice to

1742
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life.