1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Please you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Radio. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: March is one of the best times of year for 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: all the different things that are happening in the sports world. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: But there is nothing more enjoyable, more dramatic, more breathtaking 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: when it's on than the sport of college basketball. Welcome 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: in on this Saturday. It's bucking fits. But Steve Hartman 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: is good enough to fill in for Jason Fitz, who 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: has yet again abandoned his duties, his responsibilities. He's all 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: flittering around the world doing indoor Football League game. 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that I can count on somebody. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Well, Buck, you know I'm here for you, man, and 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: we've done shows before. You know, it's well documented how 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: much money you put in my pocket way back in 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: the day. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 4: I don't want to rehash that, but I will say 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: this about you and I a Buck. So we have 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 4: the big. 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio tournament bracket challenge going on right now, 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: and last year I have the remarkable first day where 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: I went sixteen and oh okay, I've done brackets for 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: forty years. I'd never had a perfect first day. Unfortunately, 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: it went south for me after that. A couple of 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: years ago, I was right in the mix to the 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: very end. But this year has been a catastrophe. So 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: I was checking the standings today. I think there's thirty 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: nine of us, and I was like, I don't know, 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: like thirty first, and one of the names below me 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: one point behind me is Buck Rising. So you and 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: I have had a rough goal of it this year 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: as far as our tournament brackets are concerned. Of course, 31 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: my excuse is always this Buck. The more you know, 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: the less you know. The reason that I struggle and 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: have been so bad over the years as a prognosticator 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: is I know too much. 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: So that's the excuse. The more you know, the less 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: you know. 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: You saw about this eighth grade kid who has a 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: perfect women's bracketings and the eighth grade case's got the 39 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: only perfect bracket, like document a perfect bracket going into 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: the sweet sixteen or whatever, and they're like, how did 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: you know so much about women's basket goes? Not only 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: do I not know women's basketball, I don't know basketball period. 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: I cannot name you a. 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: Single basketball player. But he had a perfect bracket. So 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: that's my excuse. Bug, I don't know about you. I 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: don't know how you've done over the years, but you 47 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: and I have struggled in this year's tournament bracket challenge. 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it's because Buck and I know 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 3: more than anyone else period. 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: That's I mean, we're just clearly burdened with too much. 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: Knowledge, way too much. 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Notice eighth grader, he's got an empty head. What does 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: he know? Clearly nothing? 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: So now's his rain man out here getting it done 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: with the women's bracket. No, I mean, I take a 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: beating in the bracket stuff every year. It makes me insane, Steve, 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: because college basketball, I'm an NFL reporter. I'm glad that 58 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to bet on the NFL because I 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: feel like, again to your point, I would act like 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: I know too much and then was my ass on 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: any given Sunday. But I cannot stand how badly I 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: do every year in the bracket challenges because this is 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: my favorite sport. I love it so much, and every 64 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: year I'm just sitting there staring at my bracket that's 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: just absolutely demolished by the end of it, being like. 66 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: What the hell is wrong with you? 67 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: I still have the championship game alive. Everything else is obliterate. 68 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: My last shot I had Arkansas getting into the final 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 3: four that didn't go well. I also had Houston. A 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: lot of people had Houston and they went down in 71 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: a tidal way. So yeah, I don't know how many 72 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: people have the Illinois Iowa matchup in the Elite eight. 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: I would imagine very few had that in their brackets. 74 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: But ironically, I still have my championship game in place. 75 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: I have Duke beaty Michigan in the championship game, so 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: that is my championship game was Duke Michigan. In fact, 77 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: I've been saying that pretty much all season long. I 78 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: just felt that Duke and Michigan were the two best 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: schools that I had seen all season long, So I 80 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: might get that. I think even if I get that right, 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: I still think I'm like. 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: In the bottom half. 83 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: I've been so bad in the first few rounds of 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: this year's brackets. So anyway, it's uh, but it's funny, 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: and like you say, Buck, it's for so many people 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: out there. 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: We know that. 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: Ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the brackets 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: that are filled out are filled out with zero knowledge 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: of anything college basketball. 91 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: Like you, the ninety nine point ninety nine nine. 92 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: Percent of the people filling out ballots. Cannot name a 93 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: single college player in this tournament. They might know a 94 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: couple of the coaches, obviously, but they wouldn't know any players. 95 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: But that's why this sporting event just separates itself from 96 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: the rest of the You know, we we there are 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: more brackets filled out than bets placed on the super Bowl. 98 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 3: Let's let's make that class and it's not even close. 99 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: There are more brackets filled out than there are bets 100 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: on the Super Bowl. And so whether you're a college 101 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: basketball fan or not, nothing compares to March Madness Special. 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: When we get a day like yesterday where I mean 103 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: all the games Michigan handled Alabama pretty soundly, and you know, 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Natoates was up there at the postgame press conference, and 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: I'm a little biased. I think Natoats has a lot 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: of advantages, and so when he gets up there and 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: starts making excuses, I kind of, you know, it, kind 108 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: of give him a little bit of side eye. But 109 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: Duke winning by five over Saint John's just a great 110 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: game coming down to the wire. Michigan, of course rolls 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: against Alabama. You had Yukon knock Tom Izzo and Michigan 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: state out of the tournament, and Tennessee one of the 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: biggest surprises of this tournament. 114 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I do I work out of Nashville. 115 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Steve, We obviously talk a lot of Tennessee balls on 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: the local show. Everybody in that state was fading Rick 117 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: Barnes and this particular team. This is by far and 118 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: away one of the more inconsistent basketball teams that he's 119 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: had since he's been on Rocky Top. 120 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: And yet here they are. 121 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: Again in the Elite Eight, where the program has only 122 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: made four Elite eight in its history, and three of 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: them with Rick Barnes. 124 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm done doubting the man well. 125 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: And again he's one of those guys. He has actually 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: won more games in the tournament than ain't coach ever 127 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: that has not actually won the tournament because of all 128 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: his but he's only had one Final four appearance that 129 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: was way back in three with Texas. But to go 130 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: to three consecutive Elite Eights, and as you mentioned, Tennessee 131 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: has never been to a Final four. I mean, let 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: me ask you that because you know it well, Buck. 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean, Tennessee is a football school. I mean most 134 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: schools are football schools, right, I mean, with the exception 135 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: of North Carolina and Duke in Kansas, Kentucky. I dare 136 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: say my UCLA Bruins more of a basketball school than 137 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: a football school. But for most schools, you're a football school. 138 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: Tennessee has a proud judition in football. So how would 139 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: that register if Tennessee? And by the way, I'm giving 140 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 3: you a quick side story here. In two thousand and seven, 141 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Two thousand and eight, Florida Gators won their 142 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: second consecutive national championship in basketmam. I remember they went 143 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: back to back. They had the same five starters both years. 144 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: And I was. 145 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: There in eight. 146 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: It was in Atlanta, and so I'm walking out of 147 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: the arena after that championship game, got all these Gator fans. 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: None of them were talking about back to back basketball championships. 149 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: All they were excited about was Tim tebow Man. I said, no, 150 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: it was it was oh seven, the year they won 151 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: the first championship. Because Tebow was going to go into 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: his sophomore year. He'd been a you know, Chris Leak 153 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: in the quarterback situation of Florida that freshman year, and that's. 154 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: All they were talking about. 155 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: I was like, dude, you just won the national championship, 156 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: beating my bruins, by the way in that championship game, 157 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: and all you're freaking talking about, uh no, that was right. 158 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: Oh seven was the back to back And all you 159 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: guys are talking about is that Tim Tebow guy. 160 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 4: You got to be kidding me. 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: So how would this register at the University of Tennessee 162 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: if the Valls just get to the final four? 163 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 164 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the most passionate fans bases 165 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: anywhere in the country. So even if it doesn't register 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: very high, like, we don't do a ton of college 167 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: basketball discussion until really we get. 168 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: To the tournament. 169 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Even though Rick Barnes and Tennessee have been a consistent presence, 170 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: especially in the SEC where it's been loaded, you can 171 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: argue at any given year it's had some of the 172 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: best teams in college basketball heading in obviously Florida, who 173 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: got bounced earlier, the defending national champion. So Vols fans 174 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: would get up for a final four, there's no question. 175 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: But springball in a quarterback situation where Joey Aguilar doesn't 176 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: get his eligibility extended, and the trials and all these 177 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: different things that are being documented at great length in 178 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: the world of college sports right now. It still takes 179 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: up so much oxygen because that program in college football 180 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: is such a fishball, and frankly, Steve, I've experienced the 181 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: reverse of this. I'm in Indiana, alum. Is it the 182 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: national champion? Joe, I've never I've never been, Steve. I 183 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: was at that university for four seasons. I never saw 184 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: the inside of the football stadium. You don't go to 185 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: the football games at Indiana University, so all of a sudden, 186 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: you know, you go tailgate and then you go home 187 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: and you watch Notre Dame or the three thirty sec 188 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: kick like a normal human being. 189 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Not Indiana football. It's a basketball school. It's you know, 190 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: at one point it was a blue blood. 191 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if we're still talking about ourselves that 192 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: way anymore, but as soon as because it's been so 193 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: long in their their bread and butter, right, they haven't 194 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: done any winning of consequence since Tom Crane was there, 195 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: and even before that, it's just been a struggle for 196 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: that program that wants proud program to get up. 197 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Off the mat. 198 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: They're so hungry for something, for a winner that when 199 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: football took the world by storm the way that it 200 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: has Frankly, these past two seasons you see one of 201 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: the most passionate fan responses I think anywhere, because it's 202 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: a huge fan base, a huge alumni base, and it 203 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: got woken up for the opportunity to watch this thing that. 204 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: None of us have ever experienced in our lives. 205 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: So should Tennessee get to a Final four, obviously a 206 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: championship would would take precedent here. They experienced something similar 207 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: in college baseball with Tony Vitello, who's now the manager 208 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: of the Giants out there in San Francisco, and it 209 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: was the same kind of response. But there's no question 210 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: that football will always be top of the pecking order, 211 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: no matter how good or bad it is in any 212 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: given year at an SEC school. 213 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: I would imagine as a student in Indiana if someone 214 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: had told you that in your lifetime the Indiana Hoosiers 215 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: will be the undisputed, undefeated national champions in football. 216 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: You're saying, in my lifetime, you mean I'm gonna live forever? 217 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 5: Wow? 218 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: Remember one a little all o Aqui, right, I have 219 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: Heisman trophy here? 220 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 4: You gonna get a Heisman. I'm so old buck. 221 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: I was actually my first year of following for my 222 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: dad went to USC and so when OJ came to USA, 223 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: I was nine years old nineteen sixty seven and they 224 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 3: played Indiana John Potts. 225 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Who US in the Rose Bowl that year, and that 226 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: was it. 227 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: There was like a one year wonder, one year wonder 228 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,359 Speaker 3: team in Indiana. 229 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 4: They had an Eisenberger was one of their running backs. 230 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: I mean it was. 231 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those you know, miracle teams 232 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: that came out of nowhere. And but yeah, I mean, 233 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 3: like I said, I if you want to believe your 234 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: school never has a chance to win a national championship 235 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: in one of the premier sports, Indiana football changed all 236 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: of that. Although I hear that Signette's getting a little 237 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: chippy these days. I've heard about that he's got some 238 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: big time transfers coming in and they're better not show 239 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: that man attitude. 240 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: I promise you that he'll put you in your place quick. 241 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Oh much less gold cleats at practice? 242 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: That was yeah, that was not good. 243 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Thing. 244 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: That got him a little got him a little hot 245 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: under the collar. The other day at a press conference, 246 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: I saw, so, yeah, he's definitely going to be if 247 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: he wants to be the main character in college football. 248 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: I think college football is better off for it with 249 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: a lot of different polarizing personalities. But as far as 250 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: personalities go, Steve, I'd be curious to get your thoughts 251 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: on what the future. We will talk later about the 252 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: Elite eight. I'm sure in some of the matchups, but 253 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: for some of the coaches who bow out in this round, 254 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: in the sweet sixteen, for Rick Patino, for Tom Izzo. 255 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: I know Izzo was asked yesterday about the idea of retiring. 256 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: He scoffed at it. 257 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: Patino put out a tweet today expressing his gratitude no 258 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: indication at seventy two or seventy three, I believe that 259 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: he would be in a place where he's not continuing 260 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: to do this versus somebody like Bill self, who at 261 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: least publicly it's the first time we've ever seen anything. 262 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll be ready to go. I'm good to 263 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: go for next season. 264 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: All these different things currently he's fending off, in his 265 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: estimation or according to him, fake retirement rumors that are 266 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: going on in Lawrence, Kansas right now. There are a 267 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: lot of legendary coaches and a lot of interesting blue 268 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: blood college basketball programs that have a lot of questions 269 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: to answer in the aftermath of this particular tournament. 270 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing John Wooden retired from UCLA because 271 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: it was the mandatory retirement. 272 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Age was sixty five. I mean, you know, I mean 273 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: that's I mean, it's unbelievable. When you and when they. 274 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: Manager just won ten championships in twelve years in LA, 275 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: he goes, well, it has some mandatory retirement to get retirement. 276 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: We don't have that anymore. 277 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: Why would any of these remember Jim Beaheim just hanging 278 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: on and hanging on and hanging on. I mean he 279 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: started when he was a first year head coach at Syracuse. 280 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: Gerald Ford was president, okay, and the guy was still 281 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: coaching a couple of years ago. So now that you know, 282 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 3: you know, Skrzyzewsky got out with a final four appearance 283 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 3: of Roy Williams was basically eased out after a first 284 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: round loss at North Carolina. I you know, I love 285 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: the Patino thing. I even though I had Duke winning 286 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: my brackets, it doesn't really matter. I'm not gonna win 287 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: the brackets anyway. 288 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 6: I hate Duke. 289 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: I was always gonna root against Duke, but anyway, I 290 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 3: would love to see Patina win another national championship. I 291 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: mean so in the face of the NCAA. I mean, 292 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 3: this is the only guy ever to get a basketball 293 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: championship stripped. You know, it's vacated that twenty thirteen Louisville team. 294 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: He essentially got expelled from the sport. Yeah, and was 295 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: able to crawl back in memory, went overseas professionally for 296 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: a little bit to let the you know, dust settle. 297 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: Then he gets the Iona job. 298 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: You're like Rick Patino's at Iona, and then he gets 299 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: the Saint John's and he's starting to put the pieces together. 300 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: You know, last year they had a good team. This 301 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: year they get to the sweet sixteen. Obviously they could 302 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: have won that game. If a kid man that airball? 303 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: Wow is that? 304 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you're down three and he just airballed it. 305 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: I mean, just could not hit a shot down the stretch. 306 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: But he would be their worst nightmare if they were 307 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: if they were handing another NCAA championship trophy to Rick Patino. 308 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: And I love it. 309 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: I love a guy like that that says, screw you, 310 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I want to do. So, by 311 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: the way, the Hawkeyes are off to a hot start 312 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: right now. 313 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,239 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it would be similar to Brady and Belichick 314 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: winning the championship after the whole deflate gate situation. Oh absolutely, 315 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: landing up there with rogerdal grinning and taking the trophy 316 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: from him. 317 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 318 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: So, by the way, this McCollum guy, the coach at Iowa, 319 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: this guy's an amazing story, is he not. I mean, 320 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: guy went four Division two NC championships. He's one of 321 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 3: those guys, you know, I actually a little bit like Signetti. 322 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: Guy's been around for a while at the lower ranks 323 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: and then you know, finally gets an opportunity to graduate 324 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: into you know, the upper level, and then immediately shows 325 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: like why wasn't this guy head coach at the Division 326 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: one level for a long time? 327 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: So last year, who said Drake got into the term. 328 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: Then this year he goes to Iowa and they're off 329 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: to a hot start in this Big ten match up 330 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: against Illinois. 331 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: We are hanging out here on this Fox Sports Saturday. 332 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: He's Steve Hartman. 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Steve, there's no way to 366 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: dive gracefully into delicate subject matter, especially when you're talking 367 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: about a figure like Tiger Woods, who has had some 368 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: situations like this arise in the last couple of years. 369 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: He was arrested for driving under the influence after he 370 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: had another car crash. He had one in twenty twenty one. 371 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: This one Friday, March twenty seventh. He was arrested in 372 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: Martin County, where neither he nor the other driver that 373 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: was involved in a two car crash were injured, but 374 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: they did book Tiger Woods took him to Mary or 375 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: excuse me, Martin County Jail late Friday night. He has 376 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: since been released, and this crash took place in Jupiter, Florida, 377 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: obviously where he has a home. The last, as I mentioned, 378 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: a serious rollover crash, because he did flip his car 379 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: in this one as well, took place in twenty twenty one. 380 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: He obviously had several surgeries to repair under win a 381 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: very rigorous rehabilitation and recovery process, but got a duy 382 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: charge yesterday's facing charges for property damage and refusal to 383 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: submit to a lawful test after he was breathalyzed and 384 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: blew zeros across the board, but would not undergo a 385 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: blood test or a urine test, which of course leads 386 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: to the immediate arrest. So it's just a sad situation 387 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: around Tiger. They were talking about the incident on the 388 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: NBC broadcast television coverage of the PGA Tours Texas Children's 389 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: Houston Open today and while talking about this and Steve, 390 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: we're showing incorrect images from the last crash, which I think, 391 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: in and of itself is telling for what the Tiger 392 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: Woods story has become. I just asked for your reaction 393 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 2: to the latest piece of this very very sad saga. 394 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: Well, I have covered golf way back in the day. 395 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: So in the late nineties early two thousands, when I 396 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: was starting in LATV, I covered several golf tournaments that 397 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: Tiger was part of. And this is I remember he 398 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: was down in San Diego, he had only won the 399 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: one major, he'd won the Masters in ninety seven, and 400 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: then remember he was like redoing his game, and I 401 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: had a chance to finally do an interview. And this 402 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: is early ninety nine, and of course, you know, within 403 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 3: a couple of years all hell breaks through and the 404 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: guy who's rewriting the record books. But yeah, he was 405 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: not the most cordial individual as a young guy, say 406 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: the least. 407 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: I think it changed over time. 408 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: I was on the air here at Fox Sports Radio 409 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: when he finished out that Masters Championship in twenty nineteen. 410 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: I got emotional, I really did. It's an incredible comeback story. 411 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: I remember I was tossing to the update literally as 412 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: he was hugging his mom. I got a little choked up. 413 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: Buck just got a little choked up. And it was 414 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: an incredible story, and he had seemed to evolve as 415 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: an individual. But since then, hey, Ed's been one nightmare 416 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: after another. I mean, the most obvious question is, first 417 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: of all, I don't know by you, Buck, but when 418 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: you are mentally impaired like you, the reason that you 419 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: would drink something or smoke something or you know ingest 420 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: something is to feel different. 421 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 4: That's why you do it, which is fine. 422 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: But now when you're driving and the idea that this 423 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 3: guy continues to get behind the wheel when he is 424 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: mentally impaired, whether it's pain. 425 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: Pillars or whatever it is. 426 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: Obviously it's not alcohol, but you know, I mean again 427 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter you're driving under the influence. 428 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: And why wasn't he going to submit to kuy of 429 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: drug tests? What are we hiding here? 430 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're taking some form of medication. He 431 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: just had his seventh back surgery. Can you imagine that? 432 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: Seven back surgeries? And so this whole idea that he 433 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: was going to come back and play in the Masters 434 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks that didn't make any sense 435 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 3: to me at all. 436 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: I was like, he's not ready. 437 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: To play competitive golf, because it's not just swinging a 438 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: golf club, it's walking that course Augusta National. For all 439 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: the golf friends that I've had that've had the good 440 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: fortune of being out there, we'll tell you it is 441 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: the hardest walking golf. 442 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: It is a brutal walk at Augusta National. So obviously 443 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: I feel for him. 444 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm glad nobody got hurt. That's the fortunate thing. Not 445 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 3: only he, but he could hurt somebody else. But at 446 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: some point here he can't make any more excuses for him. 447 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: Buck I mean, come on, you're fifty years old. You're 448 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: not like some kid. If you are, you know, if 449 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 3: you are taking medication and you're not thinking clearly, don't 450 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: get behind the wheel of a car or a vehicle. 451 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: Period. 452 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: Well, Steve and I don't want to sound cold here, 453 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: but I don't feel for him, you know. 454 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: Because because of this, like he is. 455 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm a child of the nineties. Okay, I'm born in 456 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: ninety three, so the rise of Tiger Woods is basically 457 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: my entire youth sports experience, along with some other figures 458 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: in sports, of course, but. 459 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: None bigger than Tiger Woods. 460 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: Right, this guy is a hero to many, many generations 461 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: of sports fans, but in particular if you grew up 462 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: watching him on a regular basis, as he was starting 463 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: to become this just you know, godlike figure in his sport, 464 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: and not just in his sport but internationally, and he 465 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: still is doing these things that are incredibly reckless and 466 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: not just harmful to him or to whomever might be 467 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: on the road. 468 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: When he is making these decisions. 469 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: But Ian and I are our producer, we're talking about 470 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: this during the commercial break. 471 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: His son's in high school. 472 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: Now you're kids are now at an age where this 473 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: is very where they can be not just imprinted by it, 474 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: but impacted by it. It registered in a completely different 475 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: way from you know, the infidelity scandal and even the 476 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: last wreck in twenty twenty one. 477 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: Well, he almost lost his life. 478 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean just unbelievable. 479 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 3: Think honestly, if you were in that kind of an 480 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 3: accent where he almost lost his life, almost lost his 481 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: leg for sure, and you would think, Okay, I will 482 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: never do that again. Yeah, there's just no way I 483 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: will ever do that again. Whether he fell asleep at 484 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 3: the wheel, whatever it was that led to that accident, 485 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 3: you literally got a second lease on life. You easily 486 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: could have been killed in that accident. Everyone that view 487 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: that accident said it was a miracle he was not killed. 488 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: So you would think you would learn from that. He's 489 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: fifty years old. I mean, look, I've learned a few things. 490 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: I'm well past fifty, so I've learned a few things 491 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: buck over the years that you know, live and learn 492 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: and you know, don't be stupid. I mean, there's no 493 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: other term. He's just being a dumb ass right now, 494 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: and there's just no excuse for it. I mean, you know, 495 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: he does a lot of positive things with charities and 496 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 3: all these other things that he. 497 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: Gets involved with. 498 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: But you can't be stupid about your own mortality when 499 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: you've had a brush with death in the past. 500 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: And it just it's unreal. 501 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: The way the police officers describe the scene that he 502 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: was speeding trying to pass somebody. 503 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 504 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: So, I just there are no excuses. I'm with you. 505 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: There's just no sympathy, no excuses for what just transpired. 506 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: The only good thing that comes out of this is 507 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: that he did not hurt somebody. 508 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, truly, thank God. We'll circle back to the Tiger 509 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: Woods story here in just a little bit. I want 510 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: to talk about another story that's kind of taken up 511 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: way too much oxygen in the world of sports with 512 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: Steve here in just a second. But first, Martin White 513 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: is gonna get us caught up on what's happening. 514 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: Hold on, Martin, nowre you going to tell Buck where 515 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 3: you're standing right now and the bracket challenge standings? 516 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 6: I mean, why don't you do it, Steve? Because this 517 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 6: is okay. 518 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: I go to say this again, I think, but there's 519 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: like thirty nine of us and we're in the thirties 520 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: bucking I right now Martin's fourth fourth. 521 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I see it, Martin. 522 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 9: And you know, I was thinking earlier when you guys 523 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 9: were talking about, you know, the lack of knowledge is 524 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 9: the benefit, right, you guys know too much. 525 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: All you look. 526 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's our excuse. That's kind of what I 527 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: do think. 528 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 9: So because when I look at the people ahead of 529 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 9: me on this list, and yeah, of course the rest 530 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 9: of you, you know, miles beneath me. Uh, how did 531 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 9: everybody seemingly forget that Michigan was the best team in 532 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 9: college basketball all year? 533 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm the only team. I'm the only person with. 534 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 6: A bracket in the top four that has Michigan winning 535 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 6: the whole thing. 536 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: I Michigan is who I picked to win the title, too, 537 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: but I was just taking a beating everywhere else. 538 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I have Duke beating Michigan the championship now, 539 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: and Michigan is and they really haven't played that great 540 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: so far in the tournam Like, there's more game there 541 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: to be at. 542 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 9: I agree, But you know, when you're you score one 543 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 9: hundred points in the first or two hundred points in 544 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 9: the first weekend, and then each game you win by 545 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 9: a margin of at least eleven. It's it's you know what, 546 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 9: it's a good thing. We're not getting greater on style 547 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 9: points here, thank goodness. 548 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what, in the tournaments survive in advance. 549 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: There are no style points in the NCATE tournament. 550 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 9: Michigan Basketball's a little bit more than surviving right now. 551 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 9: They're molly wopping the competition. Although Arizona has looked good 552 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 9: right now games being played eight thirty left in the 553 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 9: first half, Iowa jumped out to a big lead against Illinois, 554 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 9: the nine seed Hawkeys and the three seed fighting and 555 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 9: Ninli but that game has come back to twenty to 556 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 9: eighteen now with about eight thirty left in the first half, 557 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 9: as Illinois has kind of storms back there. Earlier in 558 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 9: the women's side of things, we saw three seed Michigan 559 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 9: advanced beating I'm sorry, two seed Michigan advanced beating three 560 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 9: seed Louisville seventy one to fifty eight, and then the 561 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 9: one seed Texas be five seed Kentucky seventy six to 562 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 9: fifty four. Elsewhere, and see earlier today we saw all right, 563 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, not early that game has been played. Right now, 564 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 9: South Carolina has a sixty eight to forty nine lead 565 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 9: with about ten minutes left in the fourth quarter over 566 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 9: four seed Oklahoma. That's to advance to the Elite Eight. 567 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 9: In Major League Baseball, we saw Milwaukee Brewers first baseman 568 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 9: Andrew Vaughan. He's got a broken left wrist. He's gonna 569 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 9: be re evaluated in four to six weeks. Jacob de 570 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 9: Grom was a scratch from his start with neck tightness 571 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 9: as the Rangers took the Phillies the Blue Jays in 572 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 9: the Athletics seven to seven. Right now top of the eleventh, 573 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 9: going on top of the eighth, the Twins lead the 574 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 9: Oriels four to one. Bottom of the ninth, Rangers have 575 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 9: a three to nothing lead over the Phillies. Bottom of 576 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 9: the seventh, Cincinnati leads Boston five to four. Bottom of 577 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 9: the eighth, Marlins with a four to three lead over 578 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 9: the Rockies, and the Mets and the Pirates still scoreless 579 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 9: in the top of the ninth ending. Earlier, we saw 580 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 9: the Cardinals beat the Rays and extra six to five, 581 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 9: and the Cubs beat the Nationals ten to two ean 582 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 9: half with his first home run of the season. Luca 583 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 9: Dontins is going to miss a game due to suspension 584 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 9: after he picked up his sixteenth technical foul. There will 585 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 9: be no, no, no trying to get this one overturns. 586 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 9: We saw the Spurs beat the Bucks one twenty seven 587 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 9: and ninety five victor Winbinyama had fifteen rebounds. 588 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 6: In this one. 589 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 9: I think it was twenty three points fifteen rebounds Defon 590 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 9: Castle with a twenty two point, ten rebound and ten 591 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 9: assist triple double Patients lead the Timberwolves forty five to 592 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 9: forty one with ninety seconds left before the end of 593 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 9: the first half. With a minute left in the first quarter, 594 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 9: the Hornets have a ten point lead on the seventy 595 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 9: six or thirty three to twenty three. Again twenty two 596 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 9: to twenty nine seed Iowa over three seat Illinois with 597 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 9: seven forty five left in the first half. 598 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, he's Steve Hartman on Buck Rising. 599 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: You're hanging out here with us on a Fox Sports Saturday, 600 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: And if you have been paying any attention at all 601 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: to non NCAA March Madness coverage, you know that the 602 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: name Ty Simpson and the name Dan Orlovski have been 603 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: in a lot of people's mouths this week. Dan Steve 604 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: went on ESPN's morning program Get up and offered the 605 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: opinion that not a lot of people have had in 606 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: this draft cycle, which that he believes, as a former 607 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback himself, that the Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson is 608 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: the best prospect quarterback prospect in this draft. Of course, 609 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: as we talked about earlier, f Ananda Mendoza, the Heisman 610 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: Trophy winner out of Indiana, national champion expected to be 611 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: the number one overall pick in this year's draft to 612 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders. So I wonder where you fall 613 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: on this conversation. I cover the NFL. I'm not necessarily 614 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: somebody who grinds tape in the draft process, so I'm 615 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: going to defer to smarter people than me about the 616 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 2: analysis of the these guys before they land in the league. 617 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: But this just felt And I like Dan, I think 618 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: he does great job, a great job as far as 619 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: the analysis goes, But this to me just felt like 620 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: something that was so manufactured out of thin air. I 621 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: don't think Dan did it on purpose, but it took 622 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: the sports world by storm this week. 623 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: He did it on purpose. 624 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: Look, calling Dan Orlosky a former NFL quarterbacks like Jesse 625 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: Palmer was an NFL quarterback, I mean Orlovsky was two 626 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: and ten in his entire NFL career as a starting 627 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: quarterback Okay, and ten total for his NFL career. 628 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: He only started twelve games in his career. 629 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: So Orlovsky at most was a fringe guy as a 630 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: quarterback and played his last game well over. 631 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 6: A decade ago. 632 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 3: Orlovsky showed his character at the Sports Emmys when he 633 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: was inexplicably nominated and then made a snit about the 634 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 3: fact that he lost out to Charles Barkley. 635 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: I believe for the Sports. 636 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: Emmy for you know, analyst, and so Orlovsky is one 637 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: of those guys. He you know, look at any any 638 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: one of us that gets in this industry, whether it's radio, 639 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: television or whatever, we definitely have a look at me 640 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: or listen to me attitude. 641 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 4: Otherwise we wouldn't be on the air. Okay, I get that. 642 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: But Orlosky is one of those guys that feels like, 643 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: how can I get clicks? 644 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 4: And since no one, no one. 645 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: Agrees with his assessment of ty Simpson being a better 646 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 3: prospect than Mendoza, nobody, it makes him stand out and 647 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: it creates something. Look, you see these television shows and 648 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: they try to create topics, and they'll go droning on 649 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: and on about a subject matter that's not a subject matter. 650 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: You know. 651 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: The only way you can get a true subject matter 652 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: in a discussion is if the audience, the public, really 653 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: is divided on that subject. If everybody's on one side 654 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: of a subject, then there is no discussion. You can't 655 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: create a debate when there is no debate. And really 656 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: there is no debate when it comes to who is 657 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: the best quarterback prospect this year, it's Mendoza. He is 658 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: number one, period exclamation point. It is not Ty Simpson. 659 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: So this was totally manufactured Barrier Alavsky based on nothing zero. 660 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: I will say this in his defense though, going into 661 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, when arguments were being made against him 662 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: that Drake May was all that when he exhibited none 663 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: of that against superior competition in the postseason as opposed 664 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 3: to what he did in the regular season, he was 665 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: on the right side of that one, you know, dismissing 666 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 3: Drake May as a guy that really was manufactured by 667 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: an incredibly weak schedule during the regular season that got 668 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: in the postseason. But on this this was come on, 669 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he could just throw anything out there, 670 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: but nobody. Nobody believes that ty Simpson is a better 671 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: prospect than Mendoza, and he's not. 672 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: Well, Ian, we have some sound of Dan Orlovsky because 673 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: there have been a lot of follow up appearances, including 674 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: a scorching one on the Pat McAfee Show where McAfee 675 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: and that crew just took Dan for a ride. Apparently 676 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: there's been a little bit of a harsh feelings to 677 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: that effect. But Ian, if I could hear from Dan 678 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: Orlovsky about him reaching out to NFL personnel evaluators about 679 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: this particular evaluation, I can tell you. 680 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: And I'm not going to tell you who, but I 681 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 5: probably texted twelve to fifteen general manager decision making coaches 682 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 5: in the NFL the very simple text of Ty Simpson 683 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: is QB one in this class or the best quarterback 684 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 5: in this class. And two people got back to me 685 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: with a disagreement, okay, and. 686 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: The rest didn't respond. 687 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 6: Quarterbacks. 688 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is an appearance from Dan Rolovsky was 689 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: not a good appearance for Dan. 690 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 3: Well, the fifteen I mean, come on, somewhere between one 691 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: and thirty two, I can't remember, but I reached out. 692 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just I mean, the problem. 693 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: Yourself Dan Orlovsky on the local show in Nashville this week, 694 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 2: because obviously we're talking or not Dani Rolovsky, Daniel Jeremiah 695 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: on the local show. 696 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 4: Now that's a more credible source. 697 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 2: Well, and we asked Daniel because this was the day 698 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: after all of the Orlovsky stuff, and he goes, I 699 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: haven't heard that opinion from anybody anybody, And I you know, 700 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: I'm again, I don't. I don't want to judge a 701 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: situation with Dan where I don't have the full context, 702 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 2: because I'm sure Dan did reach out to people. He's 703 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: in the NFL, he is on national television every day 704 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: at this point, Like, I'm sure he is reaching out. 705 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 3: Well, I tell you what if he didn't, Because you 706 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: know these you gotta be careful when you do that. 707 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: When you start bringing you can just say, hey, look, 708 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: i've seen film. I've seen both. You know, I know 709 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: a little bit about the quarterback position. I've actually sat 710 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 3: on the sidelines watching good quarterbacks during my NFL career, 711 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 3: and I don't know. 712 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: In my eye, Simpson looks like a better quarterback. You 713 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 4: can get away with that. Well, when you start. 714 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: Bringing in like well i's twelve to fifteen, do you 715 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 3: want to give us. 716 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 4: A name and one name, anyone. 717 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: The idea of the reporting without the actual experience. 718 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: And you talk about DJ Daniel Jeremiah, that that's a 719 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: guy that worked in personnel in the NFL. That's a 720 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 3: guy that actually worked, you know, in the front office 721 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 3: and does have connections with general managers and personnel directors 722 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 3: and everyone else against the NFL. 723 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 4: So he has that level of credibility. 724 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: Orlovsky is a media personality, except that don't don't try 725 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: to be something you're not, like some kind of insider, 726 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 3: like you know, you know, I know we got insiders 727 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 3: here at the four letter, but you know I talked 728 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 3: to people, come on, stop because you're gonna only dig 729 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: yourself a hole. And you know it's again, every team 730 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: does a draft board, right, there's gonna be thirty two 731 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: draft boards, and they're all secret. He would love to 732 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 3: look back. And I remember this with Mac Jones coming 733 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: out with Justin Fields. I believe was when that's the 734 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: same year, and I was thinking, like people were saying, Mac, 735 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,760 Speaker 3: I go, I would love to see how many boards 736 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 3: have Mac. 737 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 4: Jones above Justin Fields. 738 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: I said that going into the draft, right, and of course, 739 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: as it turned out Mac Jones you know goes below, 740 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 3: but I was I would love to see if there's 741 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 3: a single draft board, one out of thirty two that 742 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: would have Ty Simpson on their draft board ahead of Mendoza. 743 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: My answers they wouldn't. There's no way, They're just there's not. 744 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: So I mean, it's it's unfortunately for Dan because I 745 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: think he really got himself in a pickle by saying 746 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: something to be provocative and then you know it's brought 747 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: on all these shows. I mean you could hear the 748 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: reaction to mcavee and his gang, like, dude, you know, 749 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 3: you know this is this is not stop stuff. 750 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: By the way, you can subscribe to the Fox Sports 751 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: Radio YouTube channel. If you're in need of more sports 752 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: talk discussion. 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So Victor wembin 762 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: Yama is one of the most electrifying players in the NBA. 763 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: And last night, as we hang out here on a 764 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday with you, Steve Hartman in for Jason Fitz, 765 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: of which we are very grateful for Steve's presence here, 766 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: I'm buck rising with you. 767 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: As usual, Steve. 768 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: The Bucks got eliminated from the playoffs last night in 769 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 2: a blowout loss to the Spurs, and wembin Yama has 770 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: been just awesome this year. He's been trading places with 771 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: Sga and occasionally Jokic as far as who is favored, 772 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: according to the sportsbooks to be this year's NBA MVP. 773 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: But I'm looking at wembin Yama in a much larger sense, 774 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 2: and not just because he's one of the most physically 775 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 2: imposing players on a court. We got into a conversation 776 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago about Anthony Edwards and his 777 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: lack of interest in being the face of the NBA 778 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: as Lebron, you know, even though he continues to do 779 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 2: ridiculous things at age forty one, but as Lebron starts 780 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 2: to take a bit of a back seat, Anthony Edwards 781 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: is doing nationally televised commercials with a former president of 782 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: the United States. And here's wembin Yama, who you coming 783 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 2: out just I was concerned generally about somebody that size 784 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 2: and how his body would hold up. Thus far, all 785 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: he's done is do everything physically, mentally, emotionally, handled it 786 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: as professionally as humanly possible and continues to be one 787 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 2: of the most prolific players in the sport. Is there 788 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: a world in which Victor wembin Yama could be the 789 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: next face of the NBA? 790 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: The problem for Wembenyama be in the face of the NBA. 791 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, obviously his skill set is amazing, 792 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: and the Spurs have done a great job because he's 793 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 3: averaging less than thirty minutes a game. So he's putting 794 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 3: up these numbers, averaging less than thirty minutes of a game. 795 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: So I'm with you, you know, physically, can this guy 796 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: hold up? And they're doing a good job of just 797 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 3: keeping him on the court. But people, how many people 798 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 3: identify with someone that's seven foot five? Not me, nobody, 799 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: And this has been a problem. I go go back 800 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 3: to the World Chamberlain days. He was not you know, 801 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 3: no one reflects he was. It wasn't that Will wasn't dominated. 802 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 4: Was like, nobody can relate to the guy. 803 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: And so this is why, you know, when you look 804 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 3: at Magic and you look at Bird, and you look 805 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 3: at Jordan, and you look at you know, Kobe, and 806 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: maybe to some degree it has been you know, working 807 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 3: against Lebron over the years because he's so physically dominant. 808 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: But now you've got a physical freak doing this, and 809 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 3: so that's that would be my only question. Plus he's French, 810 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: so you know, and I think we we prefer our 811 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 3: American heroes here in the United States. 812 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 2: Just really get to some tournament action coming up next 813 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. 814 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 815 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: There are a few more compelling weekends anywhere in sports 816 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 2: than the second weekend of the men's March Madness Tournament. 817 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: And we are getting off to a great start right 818 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: now with the Elite eight games. As Martin mentioned, we've 819 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: got Iowa leading Illinois just barely, and purdueing Arizona will 820 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: square off tonight before the other two games take place tomorrow, 821 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 2: and we are going to talk about which of these 822 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: teams has the most improbable run or could have the 823 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 2: most improbable run to a final four. He's Steve Hartman 824 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: hanging out for Jason Fits on this Fox Sports Saturday. 825 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm Buck rising here with you as per usual, Steve. 826 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: You were talking about Iowa and their coachmccollum earlier in 827 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: the first hour. The job that they have done, importing 828 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: a lot of that roster from a group of five programs, 829 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: him coming from Drake after winning Division two titles and 830 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 2: previous stops as well. They're given me Iowa Illinois is 831 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: more a football matchup than a basketball matchup. But we've 832 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: seen a lot of fun moments from both of these 833 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: programs so far. 834 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 3: Well, let's first say this, Buck, there is no more 835 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: agonizing loss than the Elite eight. You are so invested 836 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: in this tournament, right, You've already had one week behind you. 837 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 4: You've won three games. 838 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 3: You know, for that rare occurrence of a first four team, 839 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 3: you own four games to get to this point because 840 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: once you get to the final four. I don't know 841 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 3: if you've been to final fours, Buck, I've been to 842 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: a lot of final fours over the years, the atmosphere 843 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 3: is electric. In fact, for many many years, I actually preferred, 844 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 3: and because I used to do this every single year, 845 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 3: be at the Final four, be at the Super Bowl. 846 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 4: The whole atmosphere is completely different. At the Final four. 847 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: Again, you had the National Association Basketball coaches the coincide. 848 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 4: So it just I feel short, you know, obviously. 849 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: Being around the Final four. Everyone's very tall obviously there, 850 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 3: but it's it's getting to the final four. You know, 851 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 3: it's weird because normally it's getting to the championship game, right. 852 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 3: But in college basketball, if you are a coach that 853 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: gets that Final four in your resume, boom, You've arrived. 854 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: You're forever known as guy that led a team to 855 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 3: the Final four. So there's so much pressure in these 856 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 3: Elite eight games because for the loser, it is the 857 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 3: ultimate agonizing loss. Now, as far as I was concerned, 858 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: obviously they're playing with house money. 859 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 4: This team was a five hundred team and Big Ten play. 860 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: They were behind my UCLA Bruins of the Big Ten 861 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 3: this year, and yet here they have gone through this 862 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 3: tournament with a coach. And I heard Charles Barkley talking 863 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: about this buck where he said, any coach that understands 864 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 3: how to navigate through a tournament. And this guy won 865 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 3: four championships at the Division two level. There's a big 866 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: advantage there. You already understand how to get through a tournament. 867 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 4: And so they've done. 868 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 3: He's done a master of job McCollum in his first 869 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 3: year at Iowa, after just one year Drake two years ago. 870 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 4: This guy's in the Division two level. 871 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: And so Illinois up against the Illinois a better team, 872 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 3: and right now it's a two point game, and they're 873 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: about to get to the half right now, and I 874 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 3: still expect. 875 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 4: Illinois to win this game. 876 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 3: But if I were word to get to the final four, 877 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 3: there's no ques question. That is your super long shot 878 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 3: as a nine seed. Very rare to see a team 879 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: like that could actually make it to the final four. 880 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: Well, and I'd be curious to get your perspective on 881 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 2: because this is we've gone three years since we've had 882 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 2: a Cinderella proper, since FAU was making their run the 883 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: way that they did, and one of the more unlikely 884 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: stories that we've had in the tournament. And I was 885 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: kind of thinking about this the other day, especially looking 886 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: at Iowa's roster. 887 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: How many of these guys you know, it might as 888 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: well be Drake. 889 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: Drake doesn't get an honorary you know, Elite eight appearance 890 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 2: or anything like that for basically staffing the Iowa team 891 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: and coaching staff at this point. But because of NIL 892 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: and the transfer portal, you've seen a lot of these 893 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 2: programs that would typically be able to make runs with 894 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: their own talent, you see their talent get poached by 895 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 2: bigger programs with deeper pockets. You've got the likes of 896 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: Texas as an eleven seed, Iowa's a nine seed, and 897 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 2: Iowa hasn't had. 898 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: Huge college basketball success. 899 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: They have had they have had success in their program's history, 900 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 2: but certainly not to this extent in quite some time. 901 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: And it's not like Cinderella's or you know, the one 902 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: shining moments for these group of five or smaller schools 903 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 2: is completely going away because of the randomness and the 904 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: chaos of the tournament. There will always be that chance, 905 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: but it does feel like we've at least lessened the 906 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 2: opportunity for one of these programs, these Saint Pete's of 907 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: the world, these faus, these Dunk City, Florida, Gulf Coast 908 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 2: a handful of years ago to really be able to 909 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 2: compete beyond the first weekend. I wonder your opinion on that. 910 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 3: I get that, and I know the stats say that 911 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. Well, you know, if 912 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 3: we're still talking about that ten years from now, then 913 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 3: obviously we've turned the page on true Cinderella's. 914 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 4: I don't buy it. I mean, and again the difference here. 915 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 4: One of the. 916 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: Reasons some of those you know, lower seeded teams were 917 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 3: able to navigate to the final four over the years 918 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: was experience, right, I mean, you know, you got teams 919 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: that stay together instead of you know, teams that are 920 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, find some cohesiveness when you've got 921 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of one and done guys. Not always an 922 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 3: easy situation. So you know it's I don't buy it. 923 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 3: I still think there are gonna be plenty of Cinderella's. 924 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 3: We just saw it in college football. I mean you, 925 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you lose sight of your your hoosiers. You know, 926 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 3: the idea that Indiana in this state. You know, we 927 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: all said. When I say we, I mean I was 928 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 3: one of those proponents when they went to a fourteen playoff. 929 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 3: I said, people say, well, more teams will get a chance. 930 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 3: I go you're only gonna make the rich richer. Alabama, Clempson, 931 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 3: Ohio State. They were in the playoff every year, every year, 932 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 3: and so now that you expand the playoffs. I'm but 933 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: Indiana proved. What did Indiana do? What did Signetty do? 934 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 3: He rated his James Madison roster. That was a vet 935 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,399 Speaker 3: in team Indiana had over the last couple of years 936 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 3: in college football. It'll be interesting now because finally he's 937 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 3: got a major turnover in talent. Obviously he's been able 938 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 3: to attract some of the transfers, but you still got 939 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 3: to put all the pieces together. But this is what 940 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: Dave McCollums did at Iowa. Like you said, he brings 941 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 3: that Drake team in. Now they're wearing Iowhake Eye jerseys. 942 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 3: So he has a veteran team. They know the system, 943 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 3: they know the coach. That's gonna be the hard part 944 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 3: of it because I go back to when Lane Kiffen 945 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: was first at Ole Miss. I think it was like 946 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 3: three or four years ago, when yeah, they really blew 947 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 3: the doors off as far as the transfer portal was concerned. 948 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 3: He had like twenty five players come in and they say, 949 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 3: what do you think he goes hell have I know. 950 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 3: I got twenty five players from twenty five different programs. 951 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna fit. How is it? 952 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 4: You know? So you know that to me, is. 953 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 3: Is going to be the big question. I like UCLA 954 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 3: this year. They have the number one point guard in 955 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,240 Speaker 3: the transfer portal. Donovan Dent put up these huge numbers 956 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 3: in New Mexico, and for the most part he was 957 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 3: overwhelmed in the Big Ten. 958 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 4: He just was not the same player. So you don't know. 959 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I still think there's a chance in a 960 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 3: one and done situation for a team to luck out. 961 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 3: And look Iowa right now as a nine seen. I 962 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 3: know they're in the Big ten, But you know, I 963 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: don't anybody out there got Iowa on the final four. 964 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 4: Anybody in your brackets. If you're saying yes, that's like 965 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 4: Martin might, Yeah. 966 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: You're lying. 967 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 3: There's no way you have Iowa and your final four. 968 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 3: But right now they got a four point Lee was 969 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 3: second to go in the first half. So yeah, I 970 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 3: think Cinderella could still be alive in the future. 971 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you. It was just 972 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 2: something that crossed my mind, especially heading into the second weekend. 973 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 2: Where people were trying to, you know, sell me on 974 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 2: Texas as a Cinderella, understanding that they're a lower seated program. 975 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 2: And I you know, I was at the SEC tournament 976 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,479 Speaker 2: in Nashville, as we tend to have it almost every 977 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 2: year in Nashville. 978 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: I watched that Texas team in person. They look pretty lifeless. 979 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 2: It was another hitling team that felt like it was 980 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 2: just going to squeak in bud Buck. 981 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 3: They have a coach, Sean Miller, that knows how to 982 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 3: navigate the tournament. I mean, he has four Elite eights 983 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 3: in his coaching career, four of them. So that's a 984 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 3: guy again that had a proven track record in how 985 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 3: to navigate the tournament. And that's a big reason why Texas, 986 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 3: which was deserving of their first four status, got to 987 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen because they had a coach and knew 988 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 3: how to coach in the tournament. 989 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 2: Of course, Sean Miller formerly at Arizona, who will play 990 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 2: Perdue a one versus A two seed tonight, and then 991 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: of course we have the rest of the Elite eight 992 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: tomorrow with Tennessee and Michigan six versus one, and Yukon 993 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: and Duke squaring off. This Duke team is fascinating to me, Steve, 994 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 2: for a number of reasons, and I know you brought 995 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 2: up earlier that you are inclined to root against Duke. 996 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: I would imagine that most people. 997 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: In the country share a similar sentiment, but on this 998 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 2: particular Duke team, understanding the history of the program, the 999 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: players that they've had in years past, certainly, Coach k 1000 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 2: great but polarizing, with plenty of people having strong opinions 1001 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 2: about Skrzyzewski during his time there, I find it very 1002 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: difficult to somebody who does not root for Duke and 1003 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: is not necessarily interested in seeing the Blue Devils have 1004 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 2: any more success than they've already been graced with throughout 1005 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 2: the course of their history. I find myself looking at 1006 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 2: this Duke team and finding a hard time. I'm having 1007 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: a hard time finding a reason to hate them, and 1008 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 2: I wonder if you have a better reason to than 1009 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 2: I do, because there's not a lot about John Shire 1010 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 2: or the Boozer Brothers or this particular team that feels 1011 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: as polarizing as programs. 1012 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 1: That the Blue Devils have had in years past. 1013 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 3: Well, I had a partner here when I was doing 1014 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 3: a Monday through Friday show here at Fox Sports Radio. 1015 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,839 Speaker 3: That was a dear friend of Mike Skrzyzewski, so much 1016 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 3: so that he would literally call him and he would 1017 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 3: come on with the on the air with us immediately. 1018 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 4: All the time, Coach k would be on. 1019 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 3: Such a pompous I mean, I mean, oh god, I 1020 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 3: just could not stand this man. 1021 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 4: I really got him good. You'll like this one. 1022 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 3: So he had passed Bob Knight as the winnings Division 1023 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 3: one coach of all time, so I couldn't resist this question. 1024 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 3: I said, hey, coach, now that you passed Bob Knight, 1025 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 3: you think you're gonna catch Pat Summit. So technically, you 1026 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 3: know and c aa at that time, Pat Summitt was 1027 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 3: the winning his coach before Arim had passed her. And 1028 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 3: and he there was like this dramatic pause and he goes, 1029 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 3: probably not. 1030 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you such. 1031 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 3: It so so I mean, if you at any converstion, 1032 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 3: I know you enjoyed that one too. 1033 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1034 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 3: My partner was not happy with that question. It's like, really, dude, 1035 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 3: you're gonna ask him that? I go, I just couldn't. 1036 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. Look, no, no, there's no 1037 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 3: reason to hate on on Duke. Other than if you 1038 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 3: just hated Duke, you're not going to change your mind. 1039 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 4: I mean, this Caleb Foster story is an amazing story. 1040 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 3: But I mean, the kid was fractured, what was that 1041 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 3: a fractured foot three weeks ago. When he's back out 1042 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 3: in the court yesterday knocking down some shots in the 1043 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 3: second half. I mean, I don't have anything against the 1044 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 3: Boozer brothers. You know, I don't think that they are 1045 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 3: great players. I mean the big man, obviously is you know, 1046 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,959 Speaker 3: Cameron's the guy that's getting all the hype and everything else. 1047 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 4: He's okay. I mean, I don't see him as any guy. 1048 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a big threat moving on to the 1049 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 3: NBA anymore than his father was. But no, there's no 1050 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 3: reason to root against him other than that four letter 1051 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 3: word Duke. 1052 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 4: That's it. 1053 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you could tell the emotion in John Shire's 1054 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: voice with Caleb Foster in particular, talking about you know, 1055 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 2: he had no business playing tonight with Tracy Wolson during 1056 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 2: that interview yesterday after they were able to advance, and 1057 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 2: I it's just it's impossible for me to view them 1058 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 2: as likable or you know, a good feel good story 1059 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 2: in the in the midst of this particular NCAA tournament. 1060 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 2: But hell, I found myself rooting for Rick Patino last night. 1061 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 3: Well, I was definitely rooting for Rick Patino for reasons 1062 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 3: I gave you early. I would just love him to 1063 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 3: stick it in the face of the NCAA and get 1064 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 3: back to a final four. 1065 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 4: I would love to see that from Patinos. 1066 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 3: So no, I look, I was definitely rooting for Saint 1067 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,280 Speaker 3: John's and I yes, I picked Duke in my brackets. 1068 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 3: You know, brackets are to be one and I do 1069 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 3: believe that fully healthy. I wasn't sure about the Cala 1070 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 3: Fosters situation, but now looks pretty good for them. I 1071 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 3: still think on paper, Duke should win this national Championship vote. 1072 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 3: We thought that last year and Cooper Flag choked on 1073 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,280 Speaker 3: that final shot, did he not? In the semi finals? 1074 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 3: I would agree, Yeah, that was a choke job and 1075 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 3: so and I was very happy about that. I'm very 1076 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 3: happy about that to see that happened. 1077 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 2: To Rick touch Bot. 1078 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 3: So every time the Duke is lost, I I really 1079 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 3: love it. 1080 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 4: So but yeah, I mean it's a little bit different 1081 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 4: with Shire. 1082 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 3: Other than he's guilty by association, he's a he's a 1083 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,439 Speaker 3: coach k guy. 1084 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, that's that's the problem there. 1085 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: From your perspective, and given that you and you know, 1086 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 2: I don't mean to age you, Steve, but you got 1087 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 2: a little more history to you, yeah, and a background 1088 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 2: on this, and especially giving your experience covering the tournament, 1089 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 2: eliteates and final fours and things that they like. As 1090 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 2: you look at the landscape of college basketball right now, 1091 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,399 Speaker 2: Patino still in it, Izzo still in it. We'll see 1092 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: what happens with Bill self, as we talked about earlier 1093 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 2: in North Carolina, making a change, offering Hubert Davis the 1094 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 2: opportunity to. 1095 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 1: Resign and then having. 1096 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 2: To basically, you know, drag him out of the office 1097 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,280 Speaker 2: kicking and screaming when he didn't want to resign his post. 1098 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 2: You've got Danny Hurley and Shire squaring off tomorrow in 1099 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 2: an Elite eight, and Dusty May has done an excellent 1100 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 2: job with Michigan. Who do you believe is the best 1101 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 2: coach at college basketball right now? 1102 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,240 Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question. Look at you mentioned Dusty May. Obviously, 1103 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: he you know, took that Florida Atlantic team out in 1104 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 3: nowhere and gets to the final four. They lose on 1105 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 3: that buzzer beater by San Diego State, and then he 1106 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 3: goes to Michigan and now in his second year here 1107 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 3: they are knocking on the door of a Final four. 1108 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 3: So I would say Dusty May, but you know, the 1109 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 3: coaching is so different now, that's the whole thing. 1110 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: Buck. 1111 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 3: It used to be you would bring players into your 1112 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 3: program and develop them in your program. Now it's just 1113 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 3: a revolving door. And so I don't really know if 1114 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 3: coaches should get as much credit or as much blame 1115 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 3: as they did in the past if a team is 1116 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 3: not living up to expectations. That is the hard part 1117 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 3: of this, and this is why a lot of old 1118 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 3: school coaches just have thrown up their hands and said enough. 1119 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: Now. 1120 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 3: It's a little bit different in basketball because some of 1121 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 3: these veteran coaches, like a Patino like it is. 1122 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 4: So they're hanging around because they know one player can 1123 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 4: make the. 1124 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 3: Difference, one maker, one player can absolutely make that difference. 1125 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 3: And it could be a transfer player, you know, as 1126 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 3: again a Fernanda Mendoza was able to do it Indiana football, 1127 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 3: where you bring in a guy that no one had 1128 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 3: heard of at Berkeley and he shows up and he 1129 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 3: has a super year, Heisman Trophy, won a national championship, 1130 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 3: So it's it's a little more difficult to gauge who 1131 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 3: is the most effective coach ultimately. I mean last year 1132 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 3: Golden was golden, right, Florida wins the national championship and 1133 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 3: then they go belly up this year? 1134 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 4: Was he a one year? Wonder? 1135 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 3: Is that the last we're going to hear from this guy? 1136 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 3: By the way, that I have a quick question for 1137 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 3: you that North Carolina job was we're waiting to see. 1138 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 3: I know they're waiting for the tournament to end as 1139 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 3: Dess settle because they're throwing all these names. Billy Donovan 1140 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 3: has done nothing in the NBA. How is Billy Donovan 1141 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 3: still the coach of the Bulls? I mean seriously, I 1142 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 3: mean he goes okase he's handed a good team to 1143 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 3: get to the conference finals its first year. 1144 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,760 Speaker 4: He's never done anything since. 1145 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 3: He's missed the playoffs more years than he's made the playoffs. 1146 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 3: But if you were Billy Donovan, you're already in the 1147 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. So it's not like they're gonna pull 1148 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 3: you out of the Hall of Fame. You ditch the 1149 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 3: NBA if you had a chance to take the job 1150 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 3: at North Carolina, Oh my. 1151 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 2: God, I would be out of there so fast because Chicago, 1152 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 2: like I'm that job obviously had a level of prestige 1153 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 2: to it. Yeah, for a number of years. But it's 1154 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 2: been a long time, basically my entire lifetime, will you know, 1155 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 2: outside of outside of Derrick Rose and those moments against 1156 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 2: Lebron James in the postseason and things like that, Like, 1157 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 2: it's been a long time since the Bulls have mattered 1158 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 2: in a in a serious way. If you have the 1159 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 2: opportunity to take that North Carolina job, if they even 1160 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 2: pose or show the slightest level of interest, you mean 1161 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 2: to tell me that they're not going to be more 1162 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 2: interested in Billy Donovan than you know, some of this 1163 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 2: nonsense that's being floated out there on the on the 1164 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 2: Internet and in. 1165 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: Sports media about like Kenny Smith. 1166 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 2: With all due respect to Kenny Smith, Kenny Smith is 1167 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,919 Speaker 2: not equipped nor qualified to be the next head coach 1168 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: of the North Carolina tar Heels. He'd be my first call, 1169 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 2: and if I'm being completely honest with you, Steve, my 1170 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 2: second call might be TJ. Gootzelberger at Iowa State, because 1171 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 2: that he has done a remarkable job with that program. 1172 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 2: Beyond that, I don't really know how many other places 1173 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,439 Speaker 2: they would look to go, because I don't think that's 1174 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 2: a place where you can come in with any kind 1175 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 2: of a untested or unproven commodity at the highest level 1176 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 2: of the sport. Right that fan base is not going 1177 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 2: to handle that well, much like Kentucky when they had to, 1178 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 2: you know, essentially settle for Mark Pope. 1179 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 4: Well exactly. 1180 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,439 Speaker 3: And well, I remember back in the day Coach cal 1181 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 3: when he went to Kentucky and had a chance to 1182 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 3: interview him right after that first season when he had 1183 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 3: Boogie Cousins and John Wall and he had taken over program. 1184 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 3: Didn't you make the tournament the year before it got 1185 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 3: to the elite a Bob Huggins and his West Virginia 1186 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 3: team upset him in the Elite eight, And I asked 1187 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 3: Coach Cal, I said, is the Kentucky job the toughest job. 1188 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 4: In the country? Goes, let me share a quick story. 1189 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 3: Goes a few weeks after the tournament to dinner and 1190 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 3: some guy comes up. He was very nice, he goes. 1191 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't being aggressive or anything. He just 1192 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 3: wanted to stop by and say hello. So, you know, 1193 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 3: I engage a little bit, and then the guy ends 1194 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 3: the conversation. I say, he coach, you know, good luck 1195 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 3: next year to make up for this year. And he's 1196 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 3: looking at this guy like, excuse me. I took over 1197 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 3: a Kentucky team that completely missed the tournament. 1198 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 4: We get to the Elite eight, and this guy was like. 1199 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's that's not going to cut it, 1200 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 3: you know, and if you look at North Carolina's that's 1201 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 3: what you're facing. Look, Billy Donovan's last year at Florida 1202 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 3: was the twenty fourteen twenty fifteen season. College basketball has 1203 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 3: changed dramatically since then, so. 1204 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 4: You know, you talk about fish out of water. 1205 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 3: He may go back to the college game if he 1206 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 3: were to agree to take the North Carolina job, And like, where. 1207 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 4: Am I like this? 1208 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 3: This is ridiculous. I mean, it still comes down to 1209 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,479 Speaker 3: getting players Like North Carolina lost their best player, right, 1210 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean, and they still didn't give you were Davis 1211 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 3: any kudos for that because obviously the biggest first round 1212 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 3: collapse in the history of the. 1213 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 4: Nca Tournament did him in. 1214 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 3: So I don't know that that is a very tricky 1215 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 3: job at North Carolina because the expectations are simply this 1216 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 3: win the national championship or you fail. And the question 1217 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 3: is should North Carolina be still held to that standard 1218 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 3: in light of what we have seen all these changes 1219 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 3: in college basketball. 1220 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 2: Well, and it's a great point about Billy Donovan and 1221 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 2: how far he is removed, because if you're that athletic department, 1222 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 2: and I know we have to go to break here, 1223 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 2: but you're that athletic department, you just hired a name 1224 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 2: to coach your football program, and that fell flat on 1225 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 2: its face and was very derisive among people who had 1226 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 2: to say in that decision, right with factions basically for 1227 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 2: and against Bill Belichick. If you take a big swing, 1228 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 2: another big swing on a name that isn't currently prepared 1229 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 2: for the climate in college athletics, you do yourself so 1230 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 2: much more harm yep than good. Speaking of doing harm, 1231 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods has been the story outside of March Madness. 1232 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 2: We'll talk about whether golf is finally golf fans are 1233 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 2: finally prepared to move on from Tiger as opposed to 1234 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 2: trying to keep this hope alive for a return that 1235 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: seems less and less likely with each passing day. He's 1236 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, I'm Buck Rising, stick around on Fox Sports Radio. 1237 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 2: So Tiger Woods is dealing with some additional legal issues 1238 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 2: after he got into a wreck on Friday afternoon, was 1239 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 2: taken into custody in Florida, spent the night in there 1240 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 2: in there being detained, and then was ultimately released after 1241 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,960 Speaker 2: refusing to submit to a urine test. Was charged with 1242 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 2: DUI driving while intoxicated, damage to property, and refusal to 1243 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 2: submit to that urine test despite blowing double zeros or 1244 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 2: triple zeros on a breathalyzer exam. Welcome back on this 1245 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,439 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. He's Steve Hartman kind enough to fill 1246 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 2: in make us Smarter as a show on Buck Rising 1247 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 2: here with you and now Steve, we have a situation. 1248 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 2: So President Trump was talking about Tiger Woods at a 1249 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 2: press conference recently among other things that were being addressed, 1250 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 2: and made it known to the world. Trump putting on 1251 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 2: his insider hat like Orlowski, saying that Tiger Woods would 1252 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 2: not play in the Masters this year, which okay, obviously 1253 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 2: after all the situations that he's been in. But I 1254 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 2: wonder as somebody who has covered the sport who understands 1255 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 2: the figure that Tiger has, understands the place that he 1256 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 2: still holds in the golf fans mind, and frankly just 1257 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: in sports fans mind. When are we going to give 1258 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 2: up on this idea that Tiger Woods is coming back 1259 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 2: to bring a different level of intrigue and interest to 1260 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 2: this sport that we've had since Tiger most captivated us 1261 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 2: in that twenty nineteen Masters. 1262 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 4: Well, and again you're on the money here. 1263 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you his Masters finishes since twenty fourteen. Okay, 1264 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 3: this is Tiger Woods at the Masters over the last 1265 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 3: twelve years, DNP tied for seventeenth, DMP, DMP tied for 1266 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 3: thirty second, first, tied for thirty eight, DMP forty seventh 1267 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 3: Withdrew sixtieth and last of those that made the cut 1268 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four and last year DMP. So his 1269 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 3: relevance at the Masters as a contender is zero and 1270 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 3: people know this, but they seem to be hanging on 1271 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 3: to the idea that there is another comeback that one 1272 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 3: Masters win. And by the way, I give credit to 1273 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 3: Tiger after winning that Masters. I don't know if you 1274 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 3: watched the post tournament press conference, but as everyone was 1275 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 3: just tripping over themselves, well, you're back on track three more. 1276 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 4: You catch Jack four more, you're gonna pass Jack. 1277 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 3: And he literally looked at everybody says, you realize how 1278 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 3: many things had to go right for me to win today? 1279 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 4: Do you have any idea? 1280 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: He was being as honest as he could, and you 1281 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 3: realize how how many things had to happen for me 1282 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 3: to win the Masters. 1283 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 4: There's no comeback here. 1284 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 3: That year he missed the cut of the PGA with 1285 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 3: tied for twenty first of the open cut. I mean 1286 01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 3: he hasn't been in He hasn't had even close to 1287 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 3: a top twenty in a major, any major since winning 1288 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 3: that Master, So there is no comeback. I agree with 1289 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 3: President Trump before he can't walk. It's not about swinging 1290 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 3: a golf club, it's walking the course. He had his 1291 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 3: seventh back surgery in October. He's a year removed from 1292 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 3: a blown achilles. He cannot walk Augusta for eighteen holes. 1293 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 4: No way, no chance, no how So, if you want 1294 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 4: to live. 1295 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 3: In this delusionville that somehow not only has Tiger got 1296 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 3: another comeback at him, but he's gonna he win the Masters. 1297 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're just you're forget it. You have no sense 1298 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 4: of reality. 1299 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 3: So I never for a second believed that Tiger Woods 1300 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 3: is going to play in the Masters this year. I 1301 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 3: just don't He's not going to embarrass himself by the 1302 01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 3: inability to actually walk the course. 1303 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: And doing this for a living. 1304 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 2: Steve, you have a perspective with I think most of 1305 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 2: us have a perspective of realism and the toll, the 1306 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 2: physical toll that we're talking about on the athlete, especially 1307 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 2: an athlete like Tiger who's been through so much. But 1308 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 2: the way that the population at large, I would say, 1309 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 2: I would still think it's a majority that's just trying 1310 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 2: to manifest this situation around Tiger. I can't recall an 1311 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 2: athlete where we've had a harder time letting go. 1312 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 3: Well, Buck is is that no sport has been not 1313 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 3: even the NBA with Michael Jordan, and they will never 1314 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 3: approach the kind of numbers that Michael Jordan put up 1315 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 3: in those NBA finals when he was on full display. 1316 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 3: They haven't come close to those numbers and never will again. 1317 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:09,880 Speaker 3: But Tiger's at a completely different level. No single individual 1318 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 3: has inhaled a sport like Tiger did Golf. No, I 1319 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,959 Speaker 3: dare say people listening right now, especially if your generation, Buck, 1320 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 3: the only reason you watched was Tiger? Why would I 1321 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 3: watch golf? Give me one reason why I'm gonna watch 1322 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 3: guys hit a golf ball? What is what would draw 1323 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 3: me to watch golf for three four hours knocking a 1324 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 3: ball around? Are you kidding me? But this guy is different. 1325 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 3: He was so far above everyone else in terms of 1326 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 3: his interests. He looked different, he played different, he had everything. 1327 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 3: And then the soap opera began, and then the amazing 1328 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 3: comeback to win that Masters in twenty nineteen. Phenomenal story. 1329 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 3: But it's over. It is over, over, over. But for 1330 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 3: I'd tell you it's tough for golf. What are you 1331 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 3: gonna do for golf? I mean you try to introduce 1332 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 3: us to new players. I mean Scotty Scheffler is l 1333 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 3: He plays like he's in his late thirties. Yeah, guy's 1334 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 3: like twenty seven. Does that guy looks like he's twenty seven? 1335 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 3: He has zero magnetism zero. Nobody's drawn. Well, I gotta 1336 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 3: see what Scotty Scheffler does. Even if the numbers say, wow, 1337 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 3: this guy is one of the great golfers of all time. 1338 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 3: Nobody who cares about Scotty Scheffler unless you're a diehard 1339 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 3: golf fan. 1340 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 4: So that's the problem. 1341 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,320 Speaker 3: So for those people that have hung on to Tiger 1342 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 3: for their only reason to watch any golf at all, 1343 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 3: the idea that he may never actually play a competitive 1344 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 3: round of game in any major, I mean, my guess 1345 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 3: is down the road, but it'll be nothing more than ceremonial, 1346 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 3: which it's fine. Arnold Palmer did this for years. People 1347 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,439 Speaker 3: loved Arnold Palmer back in the day. He would show 1348 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,640 Speaker 3: up the Masters, play a couple of rounds, miss the cut. 1349 01:07:58,720 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 4: Nobody cared. 1350 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 3: They just wanted to see him out there, played in 1351 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 3: fifty straight Masters. I don't know if Tiger wants to 1352 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 3: do that. Nicholas really didn't want to do that. He 1353 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 3: didn't want to just sort of hang on for ceremonial purposes. 1354 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 3: I don't think Tiger's that way. 1355 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 4: We'll see. 1356 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 3: Maybe you can get healthy enough to eventually show up 1357 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,080 Speaker 3: on the Champions Tour, play a little bit. That would 1358 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,960 Speaker 3: be a huge boost of the Champions Tour, but no, 1359 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 3: the idea of him playing in any kind of actual 1360 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 3: major golf championship and being anything more than just you know, 1361 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 3: a sideshow freak. That's where he is right now. 1362 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 2: If he plays, we've got tournament action going on right now. 1363 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 2: So it's important that Martin Weiss get us caught up 1364 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 2: on what's happening in this lad date. 1365 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a little bit of a delay in 1366 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 4: the first half. 1367 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 9: Here as a scoreboard, and the horn went bad about 1368 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,600 Speaker 9: seven minutes left in the first half. But now sixteen 1369 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 9: minutes left in the second half, Illinois just hit a 1370 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 9: three to take the lead thirty six to thirty five 1371 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,600 Speaker 9: over Iowa in an all Big ten Elite eight. The 1372 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 9: winner of this obviously advanced to the Final four. Then 1373 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 9: it starts with fifteen points under Stryakovich has ten. 1374 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 6: On the women's. 1375 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 9: Side of college basketball, we have seen the Sweet sixteen 1376 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 9: three teams punts their ticket to the Elite Eight. That's 1377 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,679 Speaker 9: one seed Texas, two seed Michigan, and another one seed 1378 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 9: South Carolina. Right now, three seed TCU is playing ten 1379 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 9: seed Uva. The Cavaliers with a thirteenth to ten lead 1380 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 9: over the horn Frogs for four minutes left in the 1381 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 9: first quarter. In the NBA, Luca at Doncas will face 1382 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,880 Speaker 9: a one game suspension after his sixteenth technical foul. He 1383 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 9: actually got his sixteenth last week, but that one was 1384 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 9: rescinded this one. I don't even think they're going to 1385 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 9: challenge it seven minutes left in the fourth quarter of 1386 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 9: the Pistons lead the Timberwolves ninety to seventy one. Neither 1387 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 9: Kate Cunningham or Anthony Edwards playing in this game. Rudy 1388 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 9: Gobert with a fourteen point twelve rebound double double. Tobias 1389 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,479 Speaker 9: Harris has fifteen five point twenty two left in the third, 1390 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 9: the Hornets lead to. 1391 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 6: Seventy six ers eighty eight to eighty one. 1392 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 9: Brandon Miller has twenty one points in Major League Baseball 1393 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 9: and Drew Vaughn, Milwaukee Brewers first baseman's diagnosed with a 1394 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 9: broken bone and the left wrist. 1395 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 6: He's gonna be out for four to six weeks. 1396 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 9: Jacob de Grom was scratched from his start today due 1397 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 9: to next stiffness. Middle of the eleventh inning, the Red 1398 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 9: Sox and the Reds tied five apiece. Bottom of the second, 1399 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 9: Angels Astro scoreless. Top of the first. The Brewers have 1400 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 9: a three to nothing lead over the White Sox. Bottom 1401 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 9: of the second inning, Royals and Braves still zero. Same 1402 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 9: for the Yankees and the Giants. We saw the Cardinals 1403 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 9: beat the Rays and Extra six to five, Cubs ten 1404 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 9: to two over the Nationals Blue Jays. That was a 1405 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 9: back and forth game between them and the A's eighty 1406 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, eight to seven. The margin of Toronto getting 1407 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 9: the win an eleven innings and ten innings. The Rangers 1408 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 9: beat the Phillies five to four. Elsewhere, and uh, you 1409 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:46,599 Speaker 9: know what. 1410 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 10: And then eight p fifty Eastern in the West Region, 1411 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 10: one seed Arizona and two seed per Due will tip off, 1412 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 10: and from what I can tell, Steve, the winner of 1413 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 10: that game could determine the winnerver the Fox Sports Radio 1414 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,439 Speaker 10: Bracket Challenge, and it could be me. 1415 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, if are you guaranteed of a win, 1416 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: if Michigan wins at all? 1417 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 6: I did not look to see who's behind me at 1418 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 6: you know. 1419 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 4: I mean, if they have Michigan and they're behind you, 1420 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 4: they're not going to catch you. So that's it. 1421 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 6: Well again, I didn't do all the machinations. 1422 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 9: I just looked ahead of me and right now, and 1423 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 9: I'm then tied for fourth. Nobody has Michigan in the 1424 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,799 Speaker 9: National Championship game. Most of them have Duke. I have Florida, 1425 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 9: so if Duke loses then that'll cancel out obviously. But 1426 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 9: I do have Michigan. My national champion still alive. Nobody 1427 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 9: else is above me still except for Duke. 1428 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 4: No, good luck with that, Thanks Pal. There we go 1429 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 4: back to you guys. I mean, I wish I was. 1430 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 3: Fullyeve me, but if I was anywhere near the top, 1431 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,240 Speaker 3: you would and you would never get enough of me. 1432 01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 9: I was here for the infamous first Weekend sixteen and 1433 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 9: oh then. 1434 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 4: I was just I was crowing. I couldn't believe it. 1435 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 4: A pull of perfect sixteen and oh last year first, 1436 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 4: you know, I. 1437 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Think that's Steve that nobody does that. 1438 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 4: I feel like that he does that. I'd say that. 1439 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 3: I think the second place was at thirteen. You know, 1440 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 3: there were some thirteen in threes. I went sixteen and. 1441 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 4: No, I did. I did it for one day. 1442 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,680 Speaker 6: It was great. 1443 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: That was it. 1444 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 2: Well, certainly that's not the case for us right now, 1445 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,880 Speaker 2: but we do appreciate everybody that participated in the Fox 1446 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 2: Sports Radio Bracket Challenge. Steve and I are fighting for 1447 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 2: our lives down here in the thirties. But you know, 1448 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 2: Martin get a little chesty, getting a old chesty at 1449 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 2: the top right now. 1450 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see how it fairs. 1451 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's it's one of it's one of the 1452 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 2: hallmarks you said for people who work in our industry 1453 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:39,759 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. 1454 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 4: Hello, there you go. We get a little intro there. 1455 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we uh well. 1456 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: I thought I hit something for a second. I am. 1457 01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 2: I always enjoy participating in the bracket, and it's one 1458 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 2: of those things where, even even if I take it 1459 01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 2: on the chin every year, the way that I do, 1460 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 2: I just think it's a fun exercise and I like 1461 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 2: that Fox Sports Radio gives us an opportunity to participate 1462 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 2: with the audience and you know, have a little fun 1463 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 2: with it ourselves. 1464 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,200 Speaker 4: That's all we can do. 1465 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 3: When we're losers this year, that's a you know, buck, 1466 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,799 Speaker 3: that's okay, that's okay. Winners in life, losers in the bracket. 1467 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 3: You know, there's worse things in that, no question. 1468 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,599 Speaker 2: So we are going to We're not gonna do winners 1469 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 2: and losers. Coming up next, we're going to play the 1470 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 2: game that we always play when Jason fitz is here. 1471 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,879 Speaker 2: But we're going to get a Steve edition of would 1472 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:36,719 Speaker 2: you Rather? Coming up next on Fox Sports Radio, Let's 1473 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 2: put a ball on this bad boy for the afternoon. 1474 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 2: Appreciate Steve Hartman hanging out here with us on Fox 1475 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, and for Jason fitz on Buck Rise and 1476 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 2: keeping an eye on the tournament action as we wrap 1477 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 2: up Game one of the Elite Eight with Purdue in 1478 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 2: Arizona ready to square off. Steve, I'm always happy when 1479 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: you fill in, but I really enjoyed doing shows with you, buddy. 1480 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 2: There's a wealth of knowledge and perspective that we do 1481 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 2: not often get around. It's just Ian Barry and me 1482 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 2: and Fitzie bouncing off one another and hoping that the 1483 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:10,519 Speaker 2: other one doesn't screw this up. 1484 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 11: Yell, it's nice to have an adult in the room. 1485 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's not about Look, I the last time Iowa 1486 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 3: was in the Final four was nineteen eighty. I was 1487 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 3: at that Final four as sports editor of the UCLA 1488 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 3: Daily Brown Loud also was their coach. 1489 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, I've been around a while, Buck. So it's 1490 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 4: just a. 1491 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 3: Different perspective, not necessarily a better perspective, but it is 1492 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 3: a different perspective. 1493 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, Well let's get some different perspectives from both 1494 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 2: of us, because it is time for our favorite game 1495 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 2: around here. 1496 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Let's play a little bit of would you rather please? 1497 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 7: It's easy, guys, don't think too hard on would you 1498 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 7: rather bucket, touch's no good or fix it? 1499 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: I like that? 1500 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 4: All right? Yeah? 1501 01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 11: Pretty straightforward here, Steve. Get a bunch of would you 1502 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 11: rather questions here? Absolutely nothing to do with sports, but 1503 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 11: I just want to get your thoughts here, So go 1504 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 11: ahead and spin the wheel. 1505 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,040 Speaker 4: Okay, first question, would you rather production? Would you rather 1506 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 4: nominal production? 1507 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:19,320 Speaker 5: Here? 1508 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 11: David Attenborough narrate your life but you can never turn 1509 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 11: him off at any point ever. Or have Morgan Freeman 1510 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,759 Speaker 11: talk over you literally every time you try to speak. 1511 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,759 Speaker 4: Wow, those are good choices there. 1512 01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 3: I would say, I'm going to go with the Morgan 1513 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 3: Freeman talking over me. I mean, look, I have a 1514 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 3: lot of respect for Attinburrow. That would be phenomenal, to 1515 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 3: say the least. But there's something about Morgan Freeman. I 1516 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 3: like his perspective on a lot of things in this world. 1517 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, if he were talking over me, I go 1518 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 3: with Morgan Freeman. 1519 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1520 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: Oh no. 1521 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 2: But see, I'm you know, I'm a bit of a 1522 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 2: head case on a number of fronts, Steve. 1523 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 1: So I feel like I should have. 1524 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,640 Speaker 2: A narrator to my life, like I kind of you know, 1525 01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 2: I go through situations in life like what would this 1526 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 2: be if it was a real life, action, moving type 1527 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 2: of situation. I have Attenborough narrate moment by moment, seen 1528 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 2: by scene in a very uninteresting life. Otherwise it would 1529 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 2: make everything a lot more interesting. 1530 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 3: I feel, Yeah, I give it another thirty five years, bucking. 1531 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,759 Speaker 3: Then you get to my yeah, yeah, the interesting in life? 1532 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,760 Speaker 3: You never know, man, That's all I can tell you. 1533 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 3: And you never know how life's gonna spend. 1534 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:34,640 Speaker 4: Okay, speaker introspective. I want to hear this all right, 1535 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 4: good one here. 1536 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 11: Would you rather be incapable of using chairs so you 1537 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 11: always have to either stand or sit on the ground 1538 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 11: or only be able to only be able to enter 1539 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 11: and exit buildings through windows. 1540 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 3: There's no doubt this is about standing. So in television 1541 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 3: I have been given the option for many years. 1542 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 4: I've been a sports aaker in the LA area for 1543 01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 4: almost thirty years. In TV, I always stand. It is 1544 01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 4: my choice. 1545 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 3: I'm the only the only sports guy in my state. 1546 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 3: Everyone else likes to sit and I like to stand. 1547 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 3: So I'm not a big chair guy. If I would, 1548 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 3: I would. I would rather like lay down on a 1549 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 3: couch than sit. Sit is not a good thing for me, 1550 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,719 Speaker 3: it really is, and so I'm one hundred percent standing 1551 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 3: that that that's an easy choice for me. 1552 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,920 Speaker 2: I know this, This plays it, this again plays into 1553 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 2: my my daily delusion. I want to I want to 1554 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 2: enter and exit every building through a window, you know, 1555 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 2: like I'm like, I'm you know, like a like a 1556 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,679 Speaker 2: spy or you know, some kind of cat burglar type 1557 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 2: of situation, like very dramatic. You know, maybe it gets 1558 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 2: me into a situation that I don't want to be in. 1559 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 2: Maybe it turns out to be a situation where there 1560 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 2: are different ramifications on a number of fronts. 1561 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,280 Speaker 4: Now is this a window? Third floor? 1562 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 1: Back? 1563 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 3: I mean, is like you know, if you scale it 1564 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 3: like Spider Man and crawl through a window or. 1565 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe you pick up some different life skills, right, 1566 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,440 Speaker 2: Maybe I learned to repel in different situations. 1567 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 3: I would hope on the other end, understands that you're 1568 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,759 Speaker 3: not like rob them as you're crawling through their window. 1569 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 11: Well yeah, even entering your own home, there's probably gonna 1570 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 11: be concerned neighbors just trying to look out. 1571 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 3: Read the Ty Cobbs story about somebody entering a window, 1572 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 3: and you might think secondly about that. 1573 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: All right, some homework on this fox w. 1574 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 11: All right, simple one here would you rather always be 1575 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 11: ten minutes late for everything or always two hours early. 1576 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 3: Ian already knows the answer to that, because there is 1577 01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 3: nobody that gets here earlier than me. I am never 1578 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 3: less than an hour early for everything that I do, 1579 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 3: whether it's radio, TV. 1580 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 4: I people joke about it. I am literally here at least. 1581 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,120 Speaker 3: In fact, if I'm not here an hour before, I 1582 01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 3: had my phone rings off the hook, like where are you? 1583 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 4: Where are you? Are you? 1584 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: So? 1585 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 4: Yes? 1586 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 3: Well, not only not only am I never late, I'm 1587 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 3: insanely early to pretty much everything I do. 1588 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 4: That's an easy one. 1589 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,760 Speaker 2: I am the complete opposite. Steve is a broadcast professional. 1590 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,760 Speaker 2: I am very much not. I am ten minutes late 1591 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 2: to everything. In fact, I'm lucky if I'm only ten 1592 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,080 Speaker 2: minutes late to everything. I do a daily radio show 1593 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 2: in Nashville. The show is literally named for me, and 1594 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,120 Speaker 2: I have been late to my own show several times. 1595 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 1: Wow, So this is a it's a plague. 1596 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 2: It's probably one of my worst characteristics. 1597 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 1: If I'm being complete. 1598 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 3: I don't understand that, you see, That's something I just 1599 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 3: don't understand. 1600 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:30,639 Speaker 4: Buck. 1601 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 3: I've had insane hours, you know, I've worked a twenty 1602 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 3: four hour clock in both TV and radio where I 1603 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,120 Speaker 3: had insane hours. 1604 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,360 Speaker 4: I've never ever, I've never been late. 1605 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 3: I've had two times, though, including with Buck Rising listening. 1606 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 3: The first time I heard Buck Rising on the air, 1607 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 3: I had an accident on the way to come here 1608 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 3: to the station. I got thirteen thousand dollars in this 1609 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 3: settlement thanks to Buck Rising. 1610 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 4: So I didn't show up that day. I wasn't late. 1611 01:19:58,840 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 4: I just didn't show up. 1612 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 1: Buck. 1613 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 4: I guess technically I was late. 1614 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,439 Speaker 11: Wait, but Steve, would there be any value? Okay, so 1615 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 11: two hours that's that's fine. But is that like what 1616 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 11: if I said four hours early? Would that mean you'd 1617 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 11: rather be time minutes late than four hours? 1618 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 3: Usually when it happens when you are married for a 1619 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 3: long time and have kids, you want to get out 1620 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 3: of the house ASVP. So with the idea of being 1621 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,599 Speaker 3: early early, there's there's a reasons. Back in the Buck days, yeah, 1622 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 3: I might have been a little bit late once in 1623 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 3: a while. 1624 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 1: You got more Fox Sports Radio coming up next.