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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show

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Speaker 1: hopping Off, where we are digging deep on this season

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Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi, welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Hopping Off with Teddy Mellencamp and.

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Speaker 2: And Emily Simpson. Next time, I'm going to say my

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Speaker 2: name first. Just want to let you know you can

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Speaker 2: take the lead next time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this time, I feel like it's a double

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Speaker 1: wind for me because I'm in Mexico overlooking this beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Water I know, and I'm in rain in Orange County.

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Speaker 2: So really you should have let me do that because

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Speaker 2: you should throw me a bone when I'm in Orange

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Speaker 2: County in the rain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I should. But I hope you're enjoying the rain

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Speaker 1: and you're probably off to go film today. But something

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Speaker 1: we need to address right at the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: podcast is, y'all, we know and understand that Tom Schwartz

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Speaker 1: is name Tom.

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Speaker 2: Schwartz or I know you guys think we're idiots, but

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Speaker 2: we're not that big of idiots.

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Speaker 1: We clearly know his name is Schwartz. We just have

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Speaker 1: made a conscious decision that for the duration of this

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Speaker 1: podcast popping off, we are going to refer to Tom

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Speaker 1: as shorts, so we either get with it or get out.

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Speaker 1: If you don't realize that we're making a joke, it

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Speaker 1: just blows off the tongue a little better, and it

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Speaker 1: actually quite suits him, especially now that he's on his

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Speaker 1: sober curious journey. He's got a lot of shorts to

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Speaker 1: figure out. So, yeah, you know, I can't even with

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Speaker 1: that sober curio.

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Speaker 2: It is such a long name, a sober curious journey

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Speaker 2: for someone who basically is like should I stop drinking

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I am not sober curious today. I have already started,

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Speaker 3: and it's a lot later here.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering how I'm going to This is a question

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Speaker 1: I have that my husband's able to do properly. But

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Speaker 1: as seeing as you were recently photographed dancing on a bar,

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Speaker 1: I think you may struggle with. Some of the things

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Speaker 1: that I struggle with is how to astain an entire

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Speaker 1: day of casual drinking without being a mess at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day.

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Speaker 2: I'd see I don't drink during the day, I only

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Speaker 2: drink random.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't like on a housewipe. Like for example, I

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Speaker 1: would leave this and go right to like the first

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Speaker 1: for his work thing. So it's like, how do I

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Speaker 1: keep the momentum going going? Okay, right now?

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Speaker 2: I could take a little nappy poo. Yeah, Well you

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Speaker 2: have to either stop drinking completely and eat some food

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Speaker 2: or you have to just drink continuously the whole day.

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Speaker 1: You just can't stop. Well, this could be rough, This

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Speaker 1: could go poorly for me, This could end poorly. We

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Speaker 1: had boots on the ground, people focusing their information on

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Speaker 1: getting us some additional details because something about her is

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Speaker 1: still all over the world wide.

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Speaker 3: Webs It is something about nothing. It is.

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Speaker 1: Something about There is nothing about her. There is nothing

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Speaker 1: had one of our producers drive by.

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Speaker 3: It was Monica that drove by.

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Speaker 1: Monica's side producing cars from Salt Lake City and she's

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Speaker 1: in town and she decided to drive by. She also

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Speaker 1: is working on getting AT access to their security cameras

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Speaker 1: which are not hooked up.

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Speaker 3: But we keep seeing reports that it's going.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're on a slight delay, but something we

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Speaker 1: Is they filmed that opening scene inside of this restaurant

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Speaker 1: that had a sign that had the little green square

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Speaker 1: out front to set all that is gone. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: were told that that does not mean that this isn't opening.

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Speaker 1: We are told that the original restaurant or low thing

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Speaker 1: so they had to take them down just outside.

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Speaker 2: So the items outside were not permitted. Is that what

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Speaker 2: So now it just looks like a desolate location. But

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Speaker 2: we're assured that there's something going on inside at your.

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Speaker 4: Point, This is what I'm being told according to our

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Speaker 1: Because there's blackoutshades over all of the windows. So maybe

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Speaker 1: if you lift those up, there's an entire thing of

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Speaker 1: sandwich making going on inside. Right, speak easy. There is

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Speaker 1: You go in, it looks like a pharmacy, Like it

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Speaker 3: It's a pharmacia for pharmacia.

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Speaker 1: You walk into the pharmacia, and then in order to

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Speaker 1: get into the speakeasy, you have to use the code

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Speaker 1: word aspirin.

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Speaker 3: At least it's not mass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not heroin or crack or fiddle. But what

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Speaker 1: do you think the code word is for something about her?

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's it's shorts, it's a it's b LT. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So we don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is what we're doing the best work that we

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Speaker 1: can because and also rumors Schwarts and Sandy's is supposedly

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Speaker 2: I did see a little reference to that, but that

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Speaker 1: It's just a rumor, I guess at this point. But

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Speaker 1: the only other rumor that we were able to get

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Speaker 1: and Sandy's is a scientologist. I don't know what this

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Speaker 2: Wait, he's a partner. The scientologist is a partner. Oh,

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Speaker 2: there were some protests. Maybe the protests. Now I'm just

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Speaker 2: going to start making shit up what kind of protests?

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Speaker 1: I was about to be like, well, there were protests

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Speaker 1: and allegedly this guy's wife got arrested. Wait, we have

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Speaker 1: to go back to protests. You can't just say protests

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Speaker 1: and leave me yanging. Here's the thing. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the protests were about. We don't know, we have

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Speaker 1: don't really need scientology coming after me. Yeah. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: We don't know what the protests are about, but we

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Speaker 2: Wait, so there was a protest and his wife got arrested,

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Speaker 2: So now there's problems with the restaurant because of that.

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Speaker 1: That's according to really reliable sources aka TikTok.

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Speaker 3: That's what's going on.

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Speaker 1: That is where I get all of my information.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I talk about what's going on currently, I have

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Speaker 2: to preface it by saying I saw in an instagram.

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Speaker 1: Real. So, according to the sources at TikTok, this is

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Speaker 1: what we've heard. Other things. Everybody and their mother except

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Speaker 1: wondering why we were invited. It was I mean, it

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Speaker 3: I don't see popping off anywhere around here.

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Speaker 1: I'm confused. But the Bravo series received nods in two categories.

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Speaker 1: Vand Pump Rules competed for Show of the Year. Gray's

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Speaker 1: Anatomy took home. How are Gray's Anatomy and Vander Pump

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Speaker 1: Rules in the same category. I know, I wondered the

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Speaker 2: I was like, who was smoking crack when they put

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Speaker 2: them in the same category.

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Speaker 1: That makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about a scripted show, and I don't get

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Speaker 1: It's I guess it's just the it's a show of

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Speaker 1: I get that it's the TV show of the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, y'all don't have our producers are.

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Speaker 3: Like, guys, it's the TV show of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we understand. But it's they're two very different I mean,

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Speaker 1: was competed in Reality Show of the Year, but the

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Speaker 1: Kardashians won this category. That is surprising what the Kardashians

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: But no, who did win? Ariana? Yeah? Ariana won for

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Speaker 1: after appearing on season thirty two of Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 1: She also was up for Reality TV Star of the Year. However,

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Speaker 1: it was once again a shocker. Chloe Kardashian took home

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Speaker 1: that honor. YEA shout out to Chloe Kardashian. Okay, Chloe, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'll probably get a little crap for this.

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Speaker 1: I don't really care, but are you really the Reality

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? I I wonder now

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Speaker 1: that what we're seeing currently and the way Arianna.

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Speaker 3: Is acting, if she will be up for the same

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Speaker 3: She might be up for Least Favorite Reality Star of

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Speaker 3: the Year, reality TV Villain of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This episode was hard to watch. It was really

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Speaker 1: hard to watch. It was multiple for multiple reasons. But

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Speaker 1: before we get there, there's an extra article Katie Maloney

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Speaker 1: on awkward and frustrating New pump Roule season. On the

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Speaker 1: Green Carpet, Katie admitted it was the most awkward, frustrating

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Speaker 1: season I've ever been a part of because just coming

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Speaker 1: off the reunion, it was just a few months later,

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Speaker 1: of time. I am someone that leads with integrity and

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't understand that that was like a very

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Speaker 1: I think she's saying that she was being I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm just guessing she's being Ari on his ride or

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Speaker 1: Die regardless if anything, because of her morals, and this

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Speaker 1: let's just say this was me and you. Let's say

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Speaker 1: that Edwin cheated on me with someone we know where

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Speaker 1: me and Edwin are still living in the house with

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Speaker 1: a white noise machine and a lamp. Don't forget the

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Speaker 1: friendship lamp. Yeah, and the friendship lamp and all the things.

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Speaker 1: And then I move on. I'm now with Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 1: Things are going great, but I'm still very scorn by

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Speaker 1: the fact that Edwin's around, yeah, and now my assistant,

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Speaker 1: so I'm thriving in that way as well. But I

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Speaker 1: would hope you would be like Teddy get like, let's

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Speaker 1: move on here. You can be in his presence, who

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Speaker 1: cares like you're above this shit At this point.

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Speaker 2: I would, I honestly would. I would say, I know

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Speaker 2: what it's done. It's over. You can't change the past.

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Speaker 2: You're with Brad Pitt, so stop crying and acting like

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Speaker 2: a victim and move forward and get out of the house.

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Speaker 1: Move out.

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Speaker 3: And also, we learned a new word which I now

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Speaker 3: have forgotten it.

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Speaker 1: But oh, it's like the flu. I think it's squatting essentially,

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Speaker 1: like you're living in a place and not it's a.

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Speaker 2: Form of squatting, which right, yeah, I don't ever made

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Speaker 2: don't think I can go look up my California real

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Speaker 1: Pump rules conspiracy revealed. So when the it's not about

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Speaker 2: Right, Like I don't have addictive habits, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: We can't be one hundred percent because now with this timing,

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: There's a shade coming down behind you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, no one's even in there. How's this happening? I

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Speaker 3: But twelve towels, three floaties, and a grill.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, before that happened, Arianna and Katie go into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, you look familiar to me. I think

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, he's a shrine of sand all in his home.

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that was randomly talking to James at

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's that guy, same guy.

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Speaker 1: But then Katie, Katie and Arianna are talking shit about

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Speaker 2: They can't just sell sandwiches out of that floaty that

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Speaker 2: You're just gonna have to throw it out into the universe.

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Speaker 2: He probably listens to this podcast. We for sure he does.

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Speaker 1: We could stand outside of shorts and Sandy's or something

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Speaker 2: She and La La show up at Villa Rosa to

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Speaker 2: She doesn't want to be angry anymore. It's tearing her apart.

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Speaker 3: Is not that a song, It's tearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sheena calls Tom one of the best friends she's

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Speaker 3: They've all treated they've all done whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean. At one point, Lala was eating Arianna's pasta

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Speaker 1: about the pasta. It was about the cookie.

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00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 3: It's about the cookie.

441
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Okay. So, I mean they've all had these things happen.

442
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: But I think where Laala really kind of hits home

443
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: as she says, like, I was letting my emotions and

444
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: how I felt about my personal relationship kind of cloud

445
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: everything that's going on here, and I didn't think about

446
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: how he was doing because I was so angry. I did.

447
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: I felt compassion for all parties involved in that moment.

448
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: I had too. I actually cried during this moment.

449
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: I just want everyone to know that I got very

450
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: emotional during this moment. I felt like what Lisa was

451
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 2: saying really hit home because she was relating it back

452
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: to her brother who committed suicide, and she's saying, let's

453
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean, how long can you continue to persecute stand

454
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: the bal At some point you got to let it go.

455
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: I think if they're going to continue persecuting stand of all,

456
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: there's no place for him on the show.

457
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: Like it has to stop. It's exhausting.

458
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: It is exhausting, and like you said, there is no

459
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: one in this group with clean hands. Everybody has done

460
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: terrible things to each other at some point, so why

461
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: is it that they all just continue to I understand

462
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: what he did was worse than anything else, but at

463
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: some point you have to just move forward. I mean,

464
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: he's been persecuted enough, not only by this whole group

465
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: of friends, but by the entire population in general. Like

466
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: how much are I.

467
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Also think that people are This may not be the

468
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: right word, but people are scared of Ariana and Katie

469
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: of pissing them off.

470
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: I agree, And I don't know if they're scared from

471
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: a show point of view, where they're scared to say

472
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: anything against Ariana because of public backlash, Because I don't

473
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: feel like anyone's really saying what they really want to

474
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: say because they're worried about public opinion.

475
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: Or going back because they all went so hard before.

476
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, like when you're really animate about something and

477
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: then you realize you may have been wrong, and then

478
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: you're like, shit, I'm going to look like a hypocrite,

479
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: or but how can you get a pass?

480
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be hypocrisy, though it can be

481
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: like in that moment, I was that angry, and now

482
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 2: that time has passed, you know, I mean, I don't know,

483
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: like you can't hold that amail the anger forever.

484
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 3: At some point you just have to move on and

485
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 3: let it go.

486
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: And I also think it the way that Arianna and

487
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: Katie and and I like both of these people, Like

488
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: if we were out right now, those are two people

489
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: that I would gravitate to.

490
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: They're very fun when we're together, but they kind of have.

491
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: This like RBS, like resting bitch face on them about

492
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: everything involving the whole thing, like and calling Sheena like, oh,

493
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: you're a flip flopper and you're this, and like those

494
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: words if you're very confident and you say those to

495
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: somebody who.

496
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: May struggle in that area a little bit or who.

497
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: I think Sheena's job is kind of always on the

498
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: line in Vandon Brumbles, like some seasons we see her

499
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: a lot and some we don't. And these two, like

500
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, pivotal women from you know, last season, are

501
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: telling her what she has to do. It's gone a

502
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: weigh on you. It's kind of like a and I

503
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: hate saying it, but like a mean girl persona like

504
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: you either fall in line with this or you're out

505
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: with us.

506
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I and I feel like when you look at

507
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Sheena and you look at La La, I feel like

508
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: they have more that they want to say, but they're

509
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: holding back.

510
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. But Katie and Sheena have always had a tumultuous

511
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: relationship over the course of the show, and I'm assuming

512
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: we're going to see more of it coming out. You

513
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: know now that Katie and Shorts are both hooking up

514
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: with Sheena's babysitter, who was also talking about ozepic to

515
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: Summer Moon, which I thought was another strange thing this episode.

516
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: It's like, really, do we have like a little baby

517
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: doctor kid or something that syringe And she's like, should

518
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: I give her the zimpick?

519
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know from all now that I'm

520
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: going back. She is really narrowing down the one person

521
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: she trusts with her kid. I'm not sure it's the

522
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: one that's making out with shorts Katie me and talking

523
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: about ozimpic shots to her two year old.

524
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then but she doesn't really trust her because

525
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: then she has her sister come over.

526
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then oh, but it gets heated at the

527
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: end when Rock brings up she Anda's mom, which which

528
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: we we got into a little bit last night. But anyways,

529
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: we get back to Schwartz's semi curious sober journey coming

530
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: to an end at the pool party. We're seeing him

531
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: doing things like is that really a journey? Is it

532
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: really a journey.

533
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: If you're just like I was, wondering if I should

534
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: be sober.

535
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Nope, I'm not not today, not today, not today. Now

536
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: When I jump off the balcony into this five foot pool,

537
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: like that felt dangerous to me.

538
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept thinking someone is gonna get whiplash or

539
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: break their neck or their back.

540
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: And also don't jump too high because one of those

541
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: airplanes could have just easily be right over. But Laala

542
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: and Ali, this is where they talk about James sobriety.

543
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Ali won't share what james reason is for quitting, but

544
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: said he may confide to Laala about it, which I

545
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: hate to be the bear of bad news. He has

546
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: not yet. And then James, but I love this, He's

547
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: so but he's just love the editing THHC and fused beverage.

548
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: Yes, while his barbecue is up in flames.

549
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I I love the editors. They love to do stuff

550
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: like that.

551
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: It's like, let's let's talk about how he's been sober

552
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: for three months and how hard that is.

553
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: Meanwhile his gorilla is on fire and.

554
00:29:54,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: He's let's also, I don't know, are you can you really?

555
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: Can you really say you've been sober for three months if.

556
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: You're chugging to you? I'm not saying.

557
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: Yes.

558
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: They may be different.

559
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: They may like I am a different drunk if I

560
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: have vodka versus Margarita's, like I am not. I can't

561
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: drink vodka like it's I'm nasty, like no buoyno, Like

562
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I know that's not a good drink for me. But

563
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: like if I have a couple of skinny marks, or

564
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: if I have a couple of glasses of champagne, I

565
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: can be somewhat tolerable, but I don't know if you're

566
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: having multiple I've had one THHC full drink and I

567
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: remember having a hard time like formulating words.

568
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I had one of tameras and I couldn't stop laughing. Yeah,

569
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: so it's like you're putting on I put the hoodie on,

570
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: I like closed it over my face, couldn't stop laughing.

571
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean it was definitely a different effect than when

572
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I drink tequila or something like that. But your but

573
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: your mind influence, right, you're under the influence. You're still

574
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: there's still alters. You're still your mind is altered.

575
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little questionable. But then La La and

576
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: Schwarts do have their heart to heart. Lalla apologizes for

577
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: her wrongdoings and Shorts apologizes for the way he slashed

578
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: out at her, But then he kind of keeps making

579
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: like flirtatious jokes.

580
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I mean it was you.

581
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: You're so hot, but just plutonically speaking, but you're really hot.

582
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Like I make fun of your lips, but they are

583
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: the sexiest lips I've ever seen as a friend.

584
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: I you're the beautiful woman on the face of the earth,

585
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: but this is just a plutonic.

586
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: I want to bone your brains out if you weren't

587
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: my friend.

588
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Could you take your bathing suit off forrgeous friend? Can

589
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: I get a whiff your cookie? That just for a second,

590
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: but as a as a brother type, so bizarre, but

591
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: it really it really was a lot. Then we get

592
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: into Sandoval and Billy Lee.

593
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he deserves an Emmy for that.

594
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: One. I'm like, this is not a shock to you.

595
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: We all know you've been on Special Forces drowning yourself

596
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: and freezing cold water and getting yourself out of like

597
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: sunken helicopters with like a bag of money or whatever

598
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: it is, like wherever your excursion is. And now you

599
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: can't sit in this cold punched tub for twenty seconds.

600
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: It's intense. It's intense.

601
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: I arned every day you do. You're nuts.

602
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: I would never I have never done it. I would

603
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: never do it.

604
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: Well, now that you said that, you will the next

605
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: time the film popping off of my house, You're gonna

606
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: take a little dunk and then I'll give you some pasta.

607
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: I then I'll eat. It's all about the pasta.

608
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: Then he talks about how he misses Rachel. They haven't

609
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: talked in three weeks. He tells Billy what they had

610
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: was love and that's why he was addicted to it,

611
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: and he couldn't see anything else. He wants to give

612
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: their relationship a shot, and he's saving himself for her.

613
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Billy looks heartbroken at this point. She's like oh, but

614
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: she tries to go Wait, he's saving himself means he's

615
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: not screwing other women? Is that? Yeah? Right now, he's

616
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: off the sauce. He's not just sober curious. He is

617
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: sober and he's not hooking up with other chicks. Oh,

618
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: so he's sex sober. Yeah, he's sex. He's sex sober curious,

619
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: sex sober curious. But Billy says, Tom, you're allowed to

620
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: be happy. You don't need to feel like this, and

621
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: then she's like, leans over for a kid, Yeah, she

622
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: wants to. Then, Shena tells Ariana and Katie about the

623
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: conversation she had with Lisa about easing up on Tom.

624
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: She says his thoughts and feelings he's having is because

625
00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: of a situation he created, calling Tom I annoying. Annoying.

626
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Sina starts to cry to the girls, reminding them Tom

627
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: was a great friend to her. Ariana shuts it down

628
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: saying every word that comes out of his mouth is manipulation.

629
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: Okay, can I.

630
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: Can I say something during that conversation, I was. I

631
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: was so annoyed with her, how she kept talking about

632
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: how manipulative he is while she's manipulating that entire group

633
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: into disliking him and staying mad at him.

634
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: And I don't understand caring if your friend. I understand

635
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: being if Arianna wants to be mad at Rachel till

636
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: the end of time, and I get her hanging out

637
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: with the group, I get it, But being mad at

638
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: these other women or his best friend remaining friends with him. Yeah,

639
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: he didn't try to kill anybody. He wasn't. He didn't

640
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: try to kill her. He didn't put her life in changer. Like,

641
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: I get it. It was a really shitty thing he did.

642
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: But like it's just like, let's dig into it. Ariana

643
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: is she has her You know, she has a right,

644
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: I guess, to completely cut off Sandobal, but they are

645
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: filming a reality show.

646
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: Well let's talk about she has a right to not

647
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: want to be around Sandoval, not want to have a

648
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: relationship with him, and not want to be anywhere near him.

649
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: Got it, great?

650
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: But then don't bother with him, maybe yes.

651
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: But exactly move out, and then you can't control everyone

652
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: else's relationship with him. You have to let each one

653
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: of those people have their own journey and get to

654
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: whatever relationship they want.

655
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: She has to let that go. It's exhausting. It is exhausting,

656
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: and the fact that we should still be feeling bad

657
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: for Ariana if she took a different route right now.

658
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I would have empathy for her, but

659
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: because it's so like stank face, annoyed, yeah, manipulating, yeah,

660
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, he all these things, he sucks,

661
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: but these are his friends.

662
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: And not for nothing. They were his friends first. Yeah, exactly.

663
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: Just to let it go.

664
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: It's so what it's when did she do the confessional

665
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: where she's putting the makeup on. I had to watch

666
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 2: that like five times. I was like, could you look

667
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: any more? Just like yeah, when she was talking about

668
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: shorts and she pulls out the mirror and she's like

669
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: dabbing her face the whole time, I was like, I can't, Well, you.

670
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: Can tell at that point she's hoping they're.

671
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Not going to use that. She's talking to production, right,

672
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: but she's like just by point, I know and the

673
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: fact that they used it. I was like, oh, for

674
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: the loves. They're wanting to prove that you can't you know,

675
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: you can put demands on who you film with and

676
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: who you don't film with. They're saying, we're gonna.

677
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: Make you regret that day exactly.

678
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Then James comes over to La LA's apartment and they

679
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: talk about a sobriety, how him and Ali got into

680
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: a huge fight while he was drunk amid the sand

681
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: of all Rachel affair, and he came home and she

682
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: was gone, along with their cats. He quit drinking in

683
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen for Rachel. This was a little hypocritical because

684
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: he said he quit drinking because of the relationship with Rachel,

685
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: but this time he was doing it for himself. But

686
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: then he tells us he actually did it because Ali

687
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: left with the cats.

688
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: Okay, but what did they get He doesn't go into detail,

689
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: but what they got in a fight about right, it

690
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: was after the affair, But we don't know the details

691
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: of what they got in this huge fight.

692
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: About you mean in regard to Ali.

693
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: And yeah, when he left or she left and the cat.

694
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 2: I love that she took the cats. She's like, I'm

695
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: leaving and taking the cats. She's like, I'm going to

696
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: prove to you that I'm really gone, and so I'm

697
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: taking my favorite things about being with you, and that's

698
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: our cats, right. So she never says what neither of

699
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: them say what they were fighting about. So now essentially

700
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: we're in the same situation we were when things got

701
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: bad with Rachel, where he stopped drinking, said that's his

702
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: new thing. But my question is, if you have.

703
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: That side of you where you will fight badly with

704
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: your significant other when you drink, does that not exist

705
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: at all when you're not drinking. I find that hard

706
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: to believe.

707
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, because when I drink, I'm just funny,

708
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know. When I drink, I'm kind of

709
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: an asshole, but I'm I'm kind.

710
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: Of violent, but you know, I mean, I was like,

711
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: how was that a change?

712
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was like, that's exactly like I'm an asshole

713
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: in general.

714
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 3: So that's my question.

715
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: Consistently an asshole, consistently an asshole, and I consistently don't

716
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: mind if people call me one, so at least I

717
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: can take accountability for my assho That's my question. Is

718
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: there really a huge change or if all least said

719
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: something to him that pissed him off or I feel

720
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: like made him feel less than would he lash out

721
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: in some way Virgie.

722
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: You're a drink and not probably. I mean he seems

723
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: like he would. He's got an ego.

724
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's I don't know, but either way, now

725
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: he's sober again allegedly for the time being. Then we

726
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: see Shorts and Joe at his apartment. Joe we never

727
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: got to see last season, although she came up in

728
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: conversation a lot because she used to be friends with

729
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Christian Duty.

730
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: And Katie like all of it. They were all pals.

731
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: But allegedly he was hooking up with Joe and then

732
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: they moved in together. After seeing Joe cut his hair.

733
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine with never seeing Joe again. I don't need Okay,

734
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: here's the question.

735
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Can you have a whirlwind romance with someone and then

736
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: just be friends afterwards? I just don't see how that happens.

737
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: How do you be in love with someone and sleep

738
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: in the same bed with them and have sex with

739
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: them and then you're just like.

740
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh, now we're just friends. How that happen? Because I

741
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: think the only way that happens is if one person

742
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: is completely done and the other one's still in love

743
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: with the person. Right, So my guess is Shorts no

744
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: longer's into Joe, and Joe's like, all right, I'll just

745
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: be here and to you know, make you change your

746
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: mind and you or you're no longer sober curious and

747
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: you come home tipsy one night and you want to

748
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: get it in. Like I feel like Joe's just waiting around.

749
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: But I think if both people have truly moved on,

750
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: it's probably because you really don't actually like.

751
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: One another at all exactly. That's why it doesn't make

752
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: sense to me. I just don't get it. Can you

753
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: think of an ex boyfriend that you were like madly

754
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: in love with and then now could you be friends

755
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: with them.

756
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: After high school?

757
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 4: No?

758
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Like my high school boyfriend, we see each other out

759
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: and when we go home and there's not.

760
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: There's no like tension.

761
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Would you let him cut your hair?

762
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely not?

763
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: No. Now would you let him like shave your legs?

764
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 4: No?

765
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: But like my ex husband, I was married before my

766
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: ex husband. When I first got with Edwin, we were

767
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: all friends and then once once Matt got serious with

768
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: his next girlfriend, she didn't like it and she was like,

769
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: y'all can't be friends anymore that Bean said we didn't

770
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: live together.

771
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, he was like, he wasn't hanging out at

772
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: your house cutting your hair.

773
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: Alone like we would. We'd all be like, oh, do

774
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: you want to go to the salts I gets? Or

775
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: do you want to do this? Do you want to

776
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: get that? But it was because I really was done

777
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: and so I could do it. But I don't know

778
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: necessarily indifference. I was adding difference, yes, but I think

779
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: you know whatever. But between Sandoval's one lightning bolt earring

780
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: and Shortz's bare feet, the scene could not end fast enough.

781
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: Like all of it, Sandoval saying he doesn't forgive Lala

782
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: and Sheena for blasting them on their podcast, Lala selling

783
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: merch and both of them paved the way for the

784
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: rest of the world to treat him.

785
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm like this part, it's like, Sandival, now you have

786
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: a podcast, like just.

787
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

788
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: I actually I actually felt as if that was I

789
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: don't know.

790
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: I thought he had a point there.

791
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: They did because they have a public audience and because

792
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: they can't get out the information in a widespread way.

793
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: I do feel like there is an element of whatever

794
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: their feelings are whatever they're saying. I felt like it

795
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: was a valid point on his behalf, but also slightly

796
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: hypocritical because clearly he has a podcast and he can

797
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: say whatever he wants too, so they could make the

798
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: same argument. But I do think that there is an

799
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: element of validity in what he was saying, where they

800
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: did kind of set the tone for how everyone else

801
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: was supposed to feel.

802
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: But then Schwortz didn't make a good point.

803
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: He said, I'm nervous about Sandoval's behavior in tallahope, but

804
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: he's optimistic the trip will lead to doors to forgiveness.

805
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm not super optimistic about that, like.

806
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: I know me neither, but I do he does have

807
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: a point, though, I mean, Sandoval does need to go

808
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: on this trip, and he needs to tuck his tail

809
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: between his legs, and he needs to stop arguing with people,

810
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: you know, and stop pointing fingers. He needs to be like,

811
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm just up, I'm sorry. Can we move on?

812
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: What can we do to a question? Do we really

813
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: think Sandoval cares about being friends with any of these

814
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: people or he just cares about maintaining his position on

815
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: the television show. Once we figure that out, I'll be

816
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: able to compartmentalize this a little better. I don't know.

817
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 2: He and Sheena were always close. What do you think

818
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: do you think he wants to repair that relationship? Like,

819
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: do you think he's personally invested in that relationship? I

820
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: mean he's just a show thing.

821
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think he when he

822
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: came on to Teas in a pod and then we

823
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: did his podcast, we all like were in the same car,

824
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: and he definitely like, you can tell the seconds.

825
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: I hate to use this sword, but like triggered.

826
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: You can tell when something bothers him because he's like

827
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: has an immediate, like big reaction. But in his New

828
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: York Times article that just came out, he said, I'm

829
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: not a pop culture historian, really, but I witnessed the

830
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: OJ Simpson thing and George Floyd and with all these things,

831
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: which is really weird to compare this to. But what

832
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: do you think, in a weird way, it's a little

833
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: bit the same.

834
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: Okay, that makes no sense.

835
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: He went from OJ Simpson, which happened in nineteen ninety four,

836
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: to George Floyd, which was a couple of years ago,

837
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: and then he's comparing himself to both of those men.

838
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: Once a murderer. The other was a victim. So which

839
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: is he? Is he the murderer or the victim?

840
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this is just things that he said.

841
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: But he should probably stop talking that he should have

842
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: stopped talking, start apologizing, and then let this move on

843
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: to somebody else's drama.

844
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: I feel like he's the ding dong that keeps prolonging

845
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: it because he keeps saying stupid things.

846
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: Because he wants to listen. And I'm a person that

847
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: loves to be right.

848
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: We know this, but I think he so badly wants

849
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: people to see his side.

850
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 3: He can't get out of his own damn way. Well,

851
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: that's stupid.

852
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: He needs someone in his ear saying you need to

853
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: just shut up and stop making comparisons and try to

854
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: stop trying to act like the viction.

855
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: What's told him that, well, over Shorts.

856
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs someone, someone that he actually respects and

857
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: would listen to.

858
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: Is there a person out there that could do that, Well,

859
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: Lisa vander Pump tried, but that didn't work either.

860
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I guess there's no one. So he's clearly.

861
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Is that, And maybe he is a narcissist. He's clinically

862
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: a narcissist. I guess allegedly. I feel like if I

863
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: just put allegedly on there, then I don't get myself

864
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: in trouble.

865
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: That's that's the way we go. But then we end

866
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: the episode. I mean, well, they're all going to Tahoe.

867
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: That should be a real except for Katie and Arianna.

868
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: They have a business to open, still waiting for my sandwich.

869
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: And then James thinks that he's going to talk to

870
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Lisa about sand of all going to vander Pump Dogs,

871
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: but she has a surprise for him. And then it's

872
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: that she rescued Graham, the dog that James does to

873
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: share with Rachel. She starts crying instantly. I know, first

874
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: of all, I have so many this has happened so

875
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: many times with vander Pump Dogs. I'm confused.

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Speaker 2: I don't even understand what's going on. So Rachel took

877
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: the dog when she left.

878
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: When they broke up. She took the dog last season

879
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: or the season before, whatever it was. James would get

880
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: like visitation park visits with the dog.

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00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so Rachel would be the dog. So then Rachel

882
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: goes to therapy in Arizona.

883
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: The therapy rehab place, but also allegedly the dog was

884
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: starting to act out. The dog allegedly kept biting people,

885
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: and then the dog bit her mom, and then the

886
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: mom gave him up. And then because why wouldn't my

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00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: mom reach out to James though, because James allegedly did

888
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: terrible things to his daughter, her daughter, so she.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't want the dog to go back to him.

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Speaker 2: Correct, So a foster family and a rescue a dog

891
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: rescues a better place.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: I just I generally like dogs better than people, So

894
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: I was more offended by this whole dog situation than

895
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: anyone else treating each other badly.

896
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: I decide you badly for the dog. Well, I can

897
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: say this from personal experience. Lisa creating a storyline with

898
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: an abandoned dog feels vaguely familiar to me.

899
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: So you think Lisa reached out said bring the dog

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00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: to vander Pump. So it looks like I rescued the

901
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: dog and then called James to come and get the dog.

902
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure that this was not. Whether the dog was

903
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: chipped and they found out where it was originally, I

904
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: don't know, but I am sure there was multiple hands

905
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: in this jar figuring it out. And how to pull

906
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: on James's heartstrings and get him to start opening up.

907
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: But Lisa says that she got a call that this

908
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: dog had been in a foster home for two months,

909
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: but he had bitten a few people and so he's

910
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: being given up to a shelter. Lisa rescued him because

911
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: she feels like the dog is meant for James. You

912
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: could see how happy Ali was about this decision when

913
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: you see that Graham starts to bark at the cats

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Speaker 1: that sometimes don't live with her and James. It was

915
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: a lot. It was a lot. That's where they end

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Speaker 1: the episode. I'm happy Graham is back. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess with James.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Well, here we go another episode of Popping Off. We

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Speaker 1: have finished and we will be back next week to

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Speaker 1: talk about all the additional things.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys,