1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: It is Monday, October thirteenth. This is the morning. There 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: was a remarkable moment that played out on Sunday Morning television. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: George Stephanopholis dismissed the Vice President of the United States JD. Vans. 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: George Stefanopholis is a person of integrity who for many 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: years has laid out for the American people the vital 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: issues of the moment of the hour and asked tough questions. 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: There are very few people who have done this. Now, 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: let's watch the exchange. George. 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: I saw media reports that Tom Holman accepted a bribe. 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: There's no evidence of that. And here's George, why fewer 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: and fewer people watch your program and why you're losing 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: credibility because you're talking for now five minutes with the 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Vice President of the United States about this story regarding 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: Tom holm and a story that I've read about, but 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: I don't even know the video that you're talking about. Meanwhile, 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: low income women can't get food because the Democrats and 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer have shut down the government. Right now, we're 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to pay our troops because 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer has shut down the government. You were focused 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: on a bogus story. You're insinuating criminal wrongdoing against a 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: guy who has done nothing wrong, instead of focusing on 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: the fact that our country is struggling because our government's 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: shut down. Let's talk about the real issues, George. I 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: think the American people would benefit much more from that 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: than from you going down some weird left wing rabbit 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: hole where the facts clearly show that Tom Holman didn't 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: engage in any criminal wrongdoing. 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: It's not a weird left wing rabbit hole. I didn't 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: insinuate anything. I asked you whether Tom Holman accepted fifty 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, as was heard on an audio tape recorded 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: by the FBI in September twenty twenty four, and you 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: did not answer the question. Thank you for your time 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: this morning. Noor I said that I don't up next. 34 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Jd. Vance believes that, Hey, no 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: big deal. The man running America's secret police, Hey, he 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: deserves a little extra extra. So when he got a 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: bag with fifty thousand dollars in cash to facilitate contracts 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: so that when his men capture brown people, they can 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: be what's the word for it. I think that's the 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: word sold to a private contractor to a private prison 41 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: where they're detained before maybe some contractor maybe one that 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: put a little bit of cash into the pile for 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: Tom Homan ships them off to Africa in our name. 44 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: And make no mistake, this is happening all over the world. 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: And so because Tom Homan is the head of a 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: force of thugs, is a little bit different than the 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Democratic congressman who got caught with seventy grand in his refrigerator, 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: or even Senator Menendez, who Chuck Schumer called a great 49 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: public servant, who was caught with goal bars sewn inside 50 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: of his suit jackets, a center facing another realm of Indians. 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: Is it time for resignment? 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: It's not time to get a look the bottom line. 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: As I've said, the Senate has certain standards that we 54 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: must live up to. I am very disappointed that Center 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: Menendez has not lived up to those standards. Revision beginning, 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: why are you okay with him serving in your caucus, 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: sitting on committees, attending classified briefings. So he's been charged 58 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: with bribery, conspiracy, instruction of justice. As I've said, Senate 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: has standards. We should all be living up to those standards. 60 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: I'm deeply disappointed that Center Menndez has. 61 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Not Tom Homan. He's taking the cash to arrange for 62 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: the capture of Brown people and their effective sale to 63 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: private prison contractors. See the difference. Bribery and extortion is 64 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: always bad, but in the case of Tom Homan, well, 65 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: it's particularly a pregious but jd Vance who is a 66 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: product of political corruption, the sugar baby of Peter Tiel. 67 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Jd Vance whose career was sponsored by a very strange 68 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: billionaire with a fetish for the Antichrist. Not making this up. 69 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Who he thinks may be Greta Thunberg, also not making 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: it up. But in any rate, it's that weirdo who 71 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: put forty or fifty or sixty million into jd Vance 72 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: helping make him a senator before Donald Trump Junior, also 73 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: known as Zude, picked him to be a heartbeat away 74 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: from the presidency. And so jd Vance, who has no experience, 75 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: is personally very bizarre. Who is strident, belligerent, unaccomplished Vance, Well, 76 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: he doesn't think it's right to be asked about out 77 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: the bribery and corruption of the Trump administration that he's 78 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: such a part of. That's not a real issue. Not 79 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: according to JD. Vance the real issue, well, as always, 80 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: it's something he's pretending. Then someone is doing something to Trump. 81 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: Do you remember JD. Vance in the Oval Office with Zolanski. 82 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to 83 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you President, 84 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come 85 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in 86 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: front of the American media. Right now, you guys are 87 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because 88 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: you have manpower problems. You should be thinking, the president 89 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: for any to bring it into this county. 90 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: Them into Ukraine, that do you say, what problems we have? 91 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I have been to well come one. 92 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and 93 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: I know what happens is you bring people, you bring 94 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: them on a propaganda tour. Mister President, are do you 95 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military? 96 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: Do you think that this respectful allots to come to 97 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: the Oval Office of the United States of America and 98 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction 99 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: of your country. 100 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: That was a performance He's trying to impress Trump's the 101 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: daddy he never had JD. He's the type of hillbilly 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: who is nurturing on his memaw's hit till he was 103 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: eight or nine years old, if you know what I mean. 104 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: But at any rate, he has found a psychological comfort 105 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: as a ex officio member of the Trump family from 106 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: their Appalachian wing and as a family member, JD. Vance 107 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: has to lie with the best of them. And so 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: that's the setup for what you see. And George Stephanopolis 109 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: just lays it out there, doesn't He in the moment 110 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: makes clear I did nothing of this sort. It would 111 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: have been great if he headed you, Jackass. I asked 112 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: you the question, you didn't answer the question. Good day 113 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: to you. It's a clinic on how it should be done. 114 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: And so let's watch the full exchange. 115 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: The White House borders are. Tom Homan was recorded on 116 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 3: an FBI surveillance tape in September twenty twenty four accepting 117 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars in cash. Did he keep that money 118 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: or give it back? 119 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: George, you've covered the story ad nauseum. Tom Holman did 120 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: not take a bribe. It's a ridiculous smear and the 121 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: reason you guys are going after Tom Holman so aggressively, 122 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: is because he's doing the job of enforcing the law. 123 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: I think it's really preposterous. I know Tom, I think 124 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: that he's a good man. He gets death threats, he 125 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: gets attacked, he gets constantly threatened by people because he 126 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: has the audacity to want to enforce the country's immigration laws. 127 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: I think that it would be a much more interesting 128 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: story about why is it that Tom Holman, who is 129 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: simply enforcing Americans immigration laws, is getting constantly harassed and 130 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: threatened to the point of death threats. That's a much 131 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: more interesting question that I think journalists should focus on. 132 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: We could agree to disagree on that question. 133 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: Well, you said he didn't take a bribe, but I'm 134 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: not sure you answered the question. Are you saying that 135 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: he did not accept the fifty thousand dollars. 136 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: George, This story has been covered ad nauseum. He did 137 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: not take a bribe? Did he accept fifty thousand dollars? 138 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure that in the course of Tom Holman's life 139 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: he has been paid more than fifty thousand dollars for services. 140 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: The question is did he do something illegal? And there's 141 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: absolutely no evidence to Tom Holmans taking different questions. I'm 142 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: asking did he why is working in the administration? 143 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: I'm asking you did he accept the fifty thousand dollars 144 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: that was caught on the surveillance Say? Did he accept 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: that fifty thousand dollars or not? 146 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: George, I don't know what you're talking about. Did he 147 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: accept fifty thousand dollars for what. 148 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: He was recorded on an audio tape in September twenty 149 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: twenty four, an FBI surveillance tape accepting fifty thousand dollars 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: in cash? Did he keep that money? 151 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: Accepting fifty thousand dollars for doing what? George, I'm not 152 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: even sure I understand the question. Is it a crime? 153 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: Even the far left media like yourself. So I'm actually 154 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: not sure what the precise question is. Did he accept 155 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars? Honestly, George, I don't know the answer 156 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: to that question. What I do know is that he 157 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: didn't violate a crime. 158 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: So what was caught on the tape? You're saying right now, 159 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: you don't know whether or not he kept that money. 160 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what tape you're referring to. George. I 161 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: saw media reports that Tom Holman accepted a bribe. There's 162 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: no evidence of that. And here's George, why fewer and 163 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: fewer people watch your program and why you're losing credibility 164 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: because you're talking for now five minutes with the Vice 165 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: President of the United States about this story regarding Tom 166 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: holm and a story that I've read about, but I 167 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: don't even know the video that you're talking about. Meanwhile, 168 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: low income women can't get food because the Democrats and 169 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer have shut down the government. Right now, we're 170 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to pay our troops because 171 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer has shut down the government. You were focused 172 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: on a bogus story. You're insinuating criminal wrongdoing against a 173 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: guy who has done nothing wrong, instead of focusing on 174 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: the fact that our country is struggling because our government's 175 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: shut down. Let's talk about the real issues, George. I 176 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: think the American people would benefit much more from that 177 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: than from you going down some weird left wing rabbit 178 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: hole where the facts clearly show that Tom Holman didn't 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: engage in any criminal wrongdoing. 180 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: It's not a weird left wing rabbit hole. I didn't 181 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: insinuate anything. I asked you whether Tom Holman accepted fifty 182 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, as was heard on an audio tape recorded 183 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: by the FBI in September twenty twenty four. And you 184 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: did not answer the question thank you for your time 185 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: this morning? No organ I said that I don't up 186 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: next We'll be right back. 187 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Appreciate that this is not something that's overly exceptional, but man, 188 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: oh man, is it rare? The lack of tolerance for 189 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: being lied to, for being abused. And what George Stephanoflos 190 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: seems to understand in this instant is that he's a cakekeeper. 191 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: Behind him is his audience. And on Sunday morning, they 192 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: tuned in not to be insulted, not to be assaulted, 193 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: but to be informed. And you can question if the 194 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: most productive way to go about informing yourself is to 195 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: watch a Sunday morning show. But on this Sunday morning 196 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: on ABC, George Steffanopholis did at old school. He asked 197 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: the question and there was no theatrics, any plain old 198 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: common sense thinking adult could see question was clear. The 199 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: answer was evasive. It was a version of JD Vance 200 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: belligerently saying go f yourself, And George Stefanopfholis said, no, thanks, 201 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: not today now here's the question, what's Bob Iger going 202 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: to do when the White House calls and threatens him today? 203 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: Is it the end times for George Stefanopholis. Will we 204 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: have a repeat of the flirtation with cowardice that we 205 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: saw with Jimmy Kemmel. What act of thuggery is coming 206 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: ABC for George stephanophilis daring to ask a question and 207 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: daring to say you didn't answer it. Well, we'll find 208 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: out soon enough. But until then, it was a good 209 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: day because finally someone drew a line and held it 210 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: regarding one of the most prolific liars in the whole 211 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: Trump regime. So it's good for you and good for 212 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: George Stephanopholis and ABC News for doing what they ought 213 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: to be doing seven days a week and twice on Sunday. 214 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: This is the warning. I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning. 215 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: I invite you to join this community where I promise 216 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: to be honest, blunt and direct about what is happening 217 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: in this country. America is in crisis. Follow and subscribe 218 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: to this channel and on substack. Thank you