1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Are you frustrated that Chuck Schumer has not made a 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: demand that this stop as a condition of opening the government. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: It's been about the healthcare subsidies that in the end 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: will put a herd on the Trump voter. That's the 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: fault of Donald Trump. And just to be cold eyed 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: about it, explain to me why the Democratic leadership isn't 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: extending a bailout of sorts right for consequences, right that 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: will go down on Donald Trump's watch and will refute 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the nonsense of his rhetoric. Yeah, when everyone gets that 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: in the United States, we don't have mask agents running 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: around and we're prepared to keep the government closed until 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: you cease the militarization of the cities and the out 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: of control federal thuggery. 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Why isn't that the line that's been drawn as opposed 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: to something that in the end impacts a lot of 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: people in Mike Johnson's district. And I wish maybe there's 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: a better way to get their attention, but no one 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party thus far has come up with one. 20 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: So I'm always frustrated with everything that happens in Washington. 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: I say that upfront, but I think on the shutdown. 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: They've done a better job than I've seen them doing 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: a long time. I've be saying it's like BB plus. 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: And I think that making it about the healthcare subsidies 25 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 3: was right, was the right framing. It was simple enough 26 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: for the American people to understand. I think the more 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: stuff that you try to add to it, the harder 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: it gets for people to conceive what Democrats are talking about. 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: Because remember when this started, there were three things Democrats. 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Wanted in this negotiation. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: They wanted one handback on the wheel on tariffs because 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: people were getting screwed with everything getting more expensive. They 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: wanted to reverse some of the worst cuts in the 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: Republican budget, like the custom Medicare and Medicaid, the cuts 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: to snap, cuts to school lunches, that cuts to a 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: community policing because they cut two billion dollars for community 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: policing in the budget, and then this They decided to 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: focus on this, which I actually think was pretty smart 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: because now to the average person who is not paying 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: attention to the way that you and I and the 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: fourteen hundred people watching this are, all they know is 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: what Democrats are fighting for. 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: Oh, my health insurance premiums are going to double or triple. 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: And if you ask people right now, they go, do 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: you want the government back open? Yeah? Who do you 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: think is responsible? 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: And most people will go everybody, but they'll go, I 48 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: don't want the government to reopen if it means that 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: my healthcare premiums are going to double a triple. So 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: now in this country, in the rest of the year 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: and a half that we have anything that happens on 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: healthcare is owned by the Republicans. And in my opinion, 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: they have misplayed this because they thought Democrats were going 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: to fold immediately, and now Democrats are not gonna fall. 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: That would argue that the Democrats are more hardened today than 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: they were when the government shut down, because the American 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: people are with us now. 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: Again, nobody looks good in a shutdown. 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: But I think if you tacked ice onto that, and 60 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: I say, this is somebody in Chicago, like I'm in Chicago, 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: I'm fucking sick of this. I spent if you read 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: any of my pieces from last week, I spent all day, 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: all afternoon Friday policing the school that I'm on the 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: school council. 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Love. 66 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: I chased off an ice car. 67 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: I had to watch all these kids who were like 68 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: run into the school auditorium because people were worried that 69 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: ice was about to show up. There's a ton of 70 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: chaos here and there's a lot of people getting hurt. 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: So I want this situation in Chicago to end. But 72 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: I think strategically it is not the issue that is 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: most salient to most people because it isn't impacting their lives. 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: Like a lot of people don't know and understand or 75 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 3: able to conceptualize what's happening in Chicago or what's happening 76 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: in Portland. 77 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: What they know about it. They don't like it, but 78 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 2: they can conceptualize. 79 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 3: I can't put food on the table, I can't pay 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 3: my healthcare premiums, I can't pay my bills, I can't 81 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: buy a house. So anytime we're talking about that, especially 82 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: on healthcare, I think we're in a better spot. And 83 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: it gets the conversation back to the Republican budget, where 84 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: millions of people are gonna lose their healthcare too. 85 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Because the Republican budget. 86 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: So I understand that strategically, I understand where Chuck and 87 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: a chem have come down on that, and I do 88 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: think it's work. 89 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Would Democrats be in a stronger position to win House seeds. 90 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: If those premiums go up, life happened John Donald Trump 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and the MAGA Congresses. 92 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: Watch maybe but I but I don't know that people 93 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: would blame the Republicans for it. I mean, obviously they're 94 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: the party in power, so they get blamed for stuff. 95 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: Like again, I've made this argument, Like when I was 96 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: on CNN the other night, I made this argument, like 97 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: I think Chuck and Akim are doing the Republicans a 98 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: favor because they should want to renew these subsidies. But 99 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: if the way that it's framed is Democrats are the 100 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: ones who saved your healthcare premiums from doubling or tripling, 101 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of value to that because 102 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: if you ask people what does the Democratic Party stand for? 103 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: Can they get anything done? And how are they gonna 104 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: help me? They can't answer that question. Almost universally, people 105 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 3: will say Democrats are fighting for someone else, they're not 106 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: fighting for me. And now we'll be able to go, 107 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: we stopped your healthcare premiums from doubling or tripling. And 108 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: I'm okay with that relative to the moment, I'm also 109 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: just okay with any big major w right now. 110 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: For the Party because it's been a while since we've 111 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 2: had one. 112 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 3: I think we just kind of have to acknowledge like 113 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: there's really no good options at politics right now. Democrats 114 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: are out of power, They're limited in what they can do. 115 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: It's very hard to get a win. That's why newsome 116 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: making fun of JD. Vance and Donald Trump very effectively 117 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: on the Internet. Feels like a win. It's not a win, 118 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: but it feels like one because we're so far out 119 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: of power. It's probably kind of like what big tea 120 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: party rallies felt like, you know, twenty years ago under 121 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: Barack Obama's like you're out of power, you're not getting 122 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: what you want. The Republicans can't do anything after eight 123 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: years of dominance and they're upset. So those tea party 124 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: rallies feel really good until you can win again and 125 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 3: get one hand back on the wheel. 126 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: Let's talk about two Democratic races, both in the northeast. 127 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Virginia, New Jersey, Harkington. 128 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: The Washington frame is hallelujah. We got a seventy nine 129 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: year old old lady to get into the main governor's race, 130 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's hand pick candidate. And then in Massachusetts sept Moulton, 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: combat veteran United States Marine officer said something I'm in 132 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: violent agreement with that that that God I just totally 133 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: blanked on on his name. Uh ed Markey ed Marquis 134 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: at age eighty should not run for reelection and continue 135 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: his senatorial service to eighty six. And what I have 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 1: said about people that will criticize me on these things 137 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: is I talked about Biden, and I've talked about it 138 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: after the election, and you have the screams and cries 139 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: of move on. My point has been having predicted what 140 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty two, every element of it, and 141 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: and it's wrought this disaster that the Republic is in. 142 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: Right is a is a fruit of the failure of 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: the of the Democratic Party, and specifically of of biding 144 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: to confront some basic realities. But all of that is 145 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: not to beat the shit out of people over events 146 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: that can't be undone, rather as a warning regarding the 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: next events ahead of us. And to me, the idea 148 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: that there's an industry, a political industrial complex, and you 149 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: have a leadership of a Democratic Party, that's oh good. 150 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: We got to savior candidate in Maine. 151 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: She's seventy nine the incumbent senator the Committee, Ed Markey. 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: He's eighty years old, and this is a party with 153 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 4: a twenty five percent approval level. 154 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: So the coin on the table, so to speak, our 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: bet on the more he's done a party with twenty 156 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: five percent approval, we'll get the credit for saving the 157 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: healthcare in a debate against an unpopular fascist though who 158 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: is more popular by them by eighteen points or so. 159 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: So it's a big bet, right when you look at 160 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: the unpopularity of the party, and when you look at 161 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer and his stranglehold in the tyranny of the 162 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: eighty year olds in this party. 163 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: It makes me crazy. Hey, how do you feel about it? 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's tough, and I'm gonna walk, Like, give 165 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: me a second on walking through all I feel because 166 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: I have nuanced take on this, which is like, so 167 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: I love Janet Mills and I love Ed Marky, both 168 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: of them as public servants. 169 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: I think they're very good effect to public servants. 170 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 3: I am the same concern that everybody else has, and 171 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: I think I broad in this view out a little 172 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: bit more because I do think to the extent that 173 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: there is a quote unquote Washington establishment. I had this 174 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: conversation Nexwell Frost on my show the other day. I 175 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: don't think there actually is one. I think it's cord 176 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: of a misnomer. But let the people decide, is where 177 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: I've landed on this stuff. Okay, Like a faction of 178 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: the party thinks that this is the best possible candidate 179 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: to win this race. Another faction thinks this is the 180 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: best possible candidate. Let them fight, And I think that's good. 181 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: Primaries are good, and I think Democrats have gotten too 182 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: afraid of getting into primaries. Like, I'm not involved in 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 3: either the main or the Massachusetts race. I'm probably not 184 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: gonna get involved in either one of them, I don't think. 185 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 2: But like, I am involved in the Michigan Centate race. 186 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: Right, And you've got Mallory mcmarr, who I think, in 187 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: my opinion, is the best candidate the Democrats have produced 188 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: in this election cycle. She is an absolute all star. 189 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: I've had her on the show, I talk about her 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: all the time. I think she's fucking amazing. The other 191 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: person I didn't want her? They Yeah, the DFCC told 192 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: her not to run. That's public knowledge. They want Hailey Stevens. Like, 193 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: I don't think that Haley is the right candidate for 194 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: the Democrats to run for a million reasons, and I 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: could spend an hour talking about that. 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: But like, she is great and we should be getting 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: behind her. But here's the thing. Mallory has to go 198 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: win that primary. 199 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: And if Mallory wins that primary, she will get an 200 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: opportunity to win the general and she will become one 201 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: of the future leaders of the Democratic Party. 202 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: Same with that Duel. 203 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: If you like Abduel, if he's your flavor of Democrat, great, 204 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: go work for him, go help him. 205 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: I got no problem with that. So let the people decide. 206 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: And I think if you go back to the mistakes 207 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: of the past that haunt the Democratic Party, the two 208 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: times we lost to Donald Trump were not times when 209 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: we had full, vibrant, messy Democratic primaries for the nominee 210 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: like Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders got into a giant, 211 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: big ass fight. And I was on Bernie's team, and 212 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: that I love Bernie Sanders to death. That was proud 213 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: to be a part of that. But imagine how much 214 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: better position we would have been in if there had 215 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: been eight or ten quality candidates who ran in that race, 216 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: Because that's what we had four years later and we won. 217 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: And it's not what we had in twenty twenty three 218 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: because Joe Biden pushed everybody out and decided to run again, 219 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: and nobody stood up to him. Because the frankly, the 220 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: primary process and that election was rigged. It wasn't rigging 221 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. I'm sorry that to anybody who says that. 222 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: But we should have big, messy primaries, let people decide, 223 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: and if your wing of the party doesn't win, that's okay. 224 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: We'll all get back on the same boat here, Like 225 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: people in the comments. 226 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Are talking about Mom Donnie, and you know, I get. 227 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: This question from reporters all the time, is are we 228 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: going to have a million Zoran Mondanni's the Democratic Party limic. 229 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,479 Speaker 2: No, we're not. It's very specific. 230 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 3: He's a great candidate and a very particular race running 231 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 3: against Cuomo is like the worst fucking candidate I've ever 232 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: seen in my life. And you know, so you're not 233 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: going to recreate those conditions. But we should all be 234 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: getting behind Zorn, even if you disagree with parts of 235 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: Zorn's agenda, because he won the primary. Because we're part 236 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: of the same party and when an establishment moderate candidate 237 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: wins if you're a progressive, you line up behind that 238 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: person you are. It's more important that we win this 239 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: race with the Democrat. That's what's right for the party, 240 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: that's what's right for the city, and that's what we 241 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: should be doing. 242 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: So I just think it's like primaries are good. Okay. 243 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: If the establishment had gotten its way, Cuomo is the 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: candidate in New York City right now. If the establishment 245 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 3: had gotten their way, Hillary Clinton would have been the 246 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: nominee in two thousand and eight, not Barack Obama. And 247 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: you know this, I would argue Barack Obama was a 248 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: much better candidate to run against John McCain in two 249 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: thousand and eight given everything that happened. And I think 250 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: time has proven that out let people decide. 251 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: And I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning. I invite 252 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 5: you to join this community where I promise to be honest, 253 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 5: blunt and direct about what is happening in this country. 254 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 5: America is in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel 255 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: and on substack. Thank you.