1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey there, Hey there, Hey there. You can hear us 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: from one till four now one untill four, and then 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: you can listen to the podcast after that, also on 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app like on podcasts John and Kenn on demand. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: All right, well, for the second time in just a 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: short period, we're going to be talking to the Riverside 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: County Sheriff, Chad Bianco. He was on our show a 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago to talk about a deputy who 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: was murdered in the line of duty. It has happened 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: again just a couple of weeks later. You've probably been 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: hearing the news that a deputy by the name of 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: Darnell Calhoun was answering some sort of domestic violence child 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: custody call in an area of Lake Elsinore and he 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: was shot by a man from inside the house, who 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: eventually other officers were able to shoot. The suspected killer 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: is Jesse Navarro, who is in critical condition hospitalized. So 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: let's bring on Seriff Pianco and sadly, we're gonna have 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: to talk again about what's going on in the criminal 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: justice system. Welcome back to the show, Sheriff. Thank you, gentlemen. 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate you having me on again. Our condolences for 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: the loss of another one of your deputies. I can't 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: imagine the shock and just the whole Denton morale there 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: in your department right now. Yeah, it's it's definitely something 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: that no one ever wants to deal with. It's a 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: little bit difficult for us. Today's a little bit more 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: of a difficult special day because today is the first 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: day that all the employees that were involved in this 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: are back to work. So I met with the dispatchers 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: this morning and they're briefing and I'm on my way 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: now to meet with Darnel's shift as they come back 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: for their first day since has happened. You hadn't had 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: killing in the department in twenty years, and now two 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: in about two weeks or so. Is this just a strange, 34 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: tragic coincidence or do you think it's a symptom of 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: something bigger going on? Well, I'm going to have to 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: say it's both. We certainly know that it's a strain 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: of something indifferent that is going on, and things are 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: getting worse and worse as it relates to the type 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: of people that we're interacting with and the complete indifference 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: that they have for law enforcement and the lack of respect. 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: But then, I mean you have to you have to 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: look at it and say, was it a coincidence? And 43 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: it did? It just happen and it could have been 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: it could have been any agency, it just happened to 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: be us. So there's a lot of unanswered feelings, a 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: lot of unanswered questions. It's a lot to process. Well, 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: on that point, talk more beyond these two murders, which 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: are horrific, you know, the extreme cases of what you're 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: talking about. You're inferring that there are many instances that 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: the public doesn't hear about where your officers are seeing 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: that's lack of respect for law enforcement and making their 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: jobs tougher. And we all know because he talked about 53 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: the show going back to twenty twenty, when we have 54 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: the tragic death in Minneapolis of George Floyd. You know, 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: there's just so many people that have turned on police officers. 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: But then you know they're elected officials too now, who 57 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: seem to be quick to blame police for a lot 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: of problems in society. Me, what are your deputies seeing 59 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: out there on this subject of lack of respect? Well, 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: it is certainly getting worse. And you're exactly right. It 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: started several years back. I would take it back a 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: little bit further, even back to President Obama time with 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: the whole beer summit where he accused an officer of 64 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: doing something wrong when in fact he was not wrong 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: at all. But the President of the United States says 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: how horrible it is. And our politicians, some of them, 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: not all of them, have been doing that since, and 68 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: we have been demonized and we have been made out 69 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: to be the aggressor in all of these things. And 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: reality is, it is completely not true. What we are 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: seeing in the public is the majority of the public 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: that we deal with respects us and loves us and 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: knows that we are needed to have a a safe 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: and a civil society. And those people are becoming more 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: and more and more in favor of law enforcement and 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: supportive law enforcement. But to the exact contrast, the people 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: that we deal with on a day to day basis, 78 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: which are the criminals, the people that don't respect you 79 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: and don't respect me and my property and my belongings 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: and even my life, those are the ones that we 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: deal with on a daily basis. And this rhetoric, this 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: false narrative that's been pushed on the public is emboldening 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: them to believe that they're doing the right thing and 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: that they're they're somehow allowed to resist arrest and they're 85 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: they're allowed to fight the police and fight back. And 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: we certainly are seeing this in the amount of uses 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: of force that we have to engage in because of 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: the actions of suspects. And this is a nationwide thing. 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: This is not just my deputies. But unfortunately, our politicians 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: are ignoring that part and they just keep pushing this 91 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: false narrative that somehow we are in the wrong and 92 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: criminals are somehow victimized, and it needs to stop, it 93 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: really does, or this is just going to continue. And 94 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: it goes beyond that. We have all the laws we've 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: talked about over the years in the state of California 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: through the criminal justice system. AB one O nine, we 97 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: call it the Prisoner Dumping Bill, we got Prop. Forty seven. 98 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: We have all these moves made in Sacramento and locally 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: that are just allowing more of these bad people to 100 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: be free. That's exactly what it does. It not only 101 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: allows it to happen, it prevents law enforcement from doing 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: anything about it, and then it emboldens them to believe 103 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: that there's no consequence. There's no consequence for your action, 104 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: what is the why would you stop doing it? It 105 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: emboldens you to do it more. And certainly what we're 106 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: seeing well, when you have no bail policies or low 107 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: bail policies, that leads to tragic circumstances. As we found 108 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: out a couple of weeks ago. Do we have any 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: indication about the background of this latest shooting suspect Jesse Nabarrow. 110 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Does he have a record? He does, He has a record, 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: and to I mean, it was a little old. His 112 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: last arrest was I think his last arrest might have 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: been fifteen years ago. But he has a reported extensive 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: drug history where he is a chronic user of methamphetamine. 115 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: Is what we are gathering in this investigation. And that 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: goes back to our politicians basically legalizing drugs and taking 117 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: away our teeth to get people help and get people 118 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: into rehabs. So the drug use is being is rampant 119 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: and there's nothing we can do about it. And then 120 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: I need to add that a rational person doesn't engage 121 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: in that type of activity with law enforcement, and what 122 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: we see in the people that fight with us, the 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: people that assault us, and the people that we engage in, 124 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: particularly gun battles with they're under the influence of drugs 125 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: into or alcohol. To the letter, there's no exception. And 126 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: when politicians are making rules that just take away the consequence, 127 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: take away the punishment, take away our ability to enforce 128 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: in those types of situations, this is what we see. 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: So Prop forty seven was a major player in this. 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Eighty one or nine is a major player. Because people 131 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: don't go to jail anymore, they don't go to prison anymore, 132 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: we're closing prisons, and then we have that constant narrative 133 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: that I mean, there are some politicians that are encouraging 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: people to resist law enforcement, and this is the reaction. 135 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: This is what we see, and this is what I 136 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: want to emphasize to the law abiding public. If someone 137 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: is willing to do that to a law enforcement officer, 138 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: do you think they're going to respect you as a 139 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: non armed law enforcement professional when if you engage in 140 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: some type of argument or disagreement, if they have no 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: regard for our life, they certainly have no regard for 142 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: anyone else's, you know. And also to your point of 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: about the reaction to this. This was like a child 144 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: custody domestic violence call for this guy to just immediately 145 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: shoot your officer. You're right, there's something going on there. 146 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: We thought he might not want to be taken in 147 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: because he was wanted for something else. But you've added 148 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: the drug element to this, which could really have just 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: frazzled his mind. Yes, because the the what we know now, 150 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: and this is all hindsight, it does not appear there 151 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: would be there would have been any reason for him 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: to go to jail. He certainly would not have been 153 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: arrested that night with our deputy's arrival. But within fifteen 154 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: seconds he pulls out a gun and engages them in 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: a gun battle, and it's it. It was just a 156 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: horrible tragedy, all right, Sheriff Bianco. Always a pleasure to 157 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: talk to you again. Our condolences though in the loss 158 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of another deputy. Thanks for talking to us, absolutely, Thanks 159 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: for having me on. I appreciate your guy's support. All right. 160 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco one of the few left 161 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: and law enforcement that really tells it like it is, 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: coming on our show to talk about the loss of 163 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: life of another Deputy Darnell Calhoun. There is another vigil 164 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: set for tonight in Marietta for Deputy Calhoun. We got 165 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: more coming up, including a keyword where you could win 166 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars. John and Ken caf I Am six 167 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. We just got done 168 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: talking to the Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco again because 169 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: he lost another deputy in the line of duty. Is 170 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: shooting that took place last Friday afternoon out in the 171 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: area of Lake Elsinore. And he mentioned one thing that 172 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: struck me because I happened to turn on the local 173 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: TV news last night. I think it was around five pm. 174 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: Remember the conversation we just had. He said that there's 175 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: a lack of respect. You can see now that you 176 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: know he went back to the Obama days. Even before 177 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: John Michael Brown was killed in twenty fourteen, there was 178 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: apparently there was just an anniversary. Remember Obama got involved 179 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: in that dispute up in Massachusetts between a black professor 180 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: and law enforcement, and the idea was to have a 181 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: beer and this out right all that That's what Tierich 182 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: Bianco was talking about, which kind of started this whole 183 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: movement that somehow police are the enemy and they're responsible 184 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: for a lot of the problems in society. It's terrible, 185 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: and it's because it's become a center issue for this 186 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: whole is part of the whole movement that capitalism, racism, 187 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: everything this country is about is wrong. That's right, and 188 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: the police are part of that right. And so the 189 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: activists get the audience with the media that get to 190 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: proliferate their message. The media amplifies it because the media 191 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: newsrooms are made up of entirely these progressives, especially young progressives, 192 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: And this is how propaganda works. And after a while, 193 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: it seeps into brains and it becomes a justification for 194 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: all the maladjusted, violent criminals out there because they hear it. 195 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: They hear, okay, police are bad guys, all right, So 196 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: they don't have a problem anymore being aggressive with the police. 197 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: They don't have a problem anymore taking a shot, because 198 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: it's not like a worthy adversary anymore. It's like, now, 199 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: these guys, these guys are bad. I may be bad, 200 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: but these guys are worse. I'm on the right side here, 201 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm on the righteous side here. It seeps into their head. 202 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: That's what propaganda does. And so it struck me when 203 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: he said that, because I'm watching this. It's another dopey chase, 204 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: right and again this time that HP chasing a guy 205 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: on the four oh five freeway and supposedly he's a 206 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: dy suspect who wouldn't pull over. I'm like, all right, well, 207 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: this is not unusual. But when they did finally pull 208 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: over and they didn't get out of the car, not unusual. 209 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you saw this, John, They 210 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: eventually get out of the car, right, and the guy's 211 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: holding a dog, it's a French bulldog, but both of them. 212 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: She's holding a phone. In fact, she's holding two phones. 213 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: It was a man and a woman. They're paying no 214 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: attention to the instructions from the cops to like probably 215 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: get down right. Usually you see these suspects get out. 216 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: They're lying splat on the pavement right, waiting to be cuffed. Nothing. 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: They're walking back and forth. She's got the two phones going. 218 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: He's holding the little dog. It's like a problem. What 219 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: are they holding the phones up to take video? Or 220 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: she's talk It's looked like she was talking to somebody. 221 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: She's got one on the left hand, one on the 222 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: right hand, and it sounded like she was talking to somebody. 223 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: The anchors were speculating, maybe she's talking to somebody at 224 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: a police station about what's going on here and negotiating. 225 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: We can't be sure. This happened in Hawthorne where it 226 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: finally ended, and it was really weird, and I didn't 227 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: stay tuned, but I'm reading the story now that eventually 228 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: the guy hands over the dog. There was a report 229 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: that the dog had been stolen, but they couldn't confirm that. 230 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: But I'm just it just goes back to this disrespect. 231 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: They were acting like you're in the wrong. We're not. 232 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: We're just gonna go about our business here. Now you 233 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: stopped us and we had to get out of the car. 234 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: What do you want, I'm busy here. I just the 235 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: whole thing just bothered me. It's really weird looking. Black 236 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: Lives Matter has done horrific damage to our sense of safety, 237 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: our sense of justice in this country because they've repeated lies, 238 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: exaggerated situations, cherry picked instances over and over again to 239 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: create this feeling that all the police are out to 240 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: shoot to kill and and it's and it's false. A 241 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of their stories are false. And the latest one 242 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: has been this week with the beloved teacher who got 243 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: tasered and ended up dying in the hospital. Nothing in 244 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: the headline about being on cocaine and on marijuana and 245 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: God causing the accident, possibly trying to steal another car. Possibly. 246 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: It's the impression in the mainstream media, which is at 247 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: mainstream anymore, it's gone far left wing, is to demonize 248 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: the police and romanticize the criminal right from the first moment. 249 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: As soon as you see the story, they start shaping 250 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: your impression of what happened. Oh, beloved teacher. Cops cruelly 251 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: tasered him to death, even though he died in the 252 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: hospital four or five hours later, and he probably had 253 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: other rugs once the arcotics report comes through, And that 254 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: to me was a clear indication of how the world changed, 255 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: and how in this case, the idiots at the LA 256 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: Times are complicit in this. They're driving this. They get 257 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: a police stories. The first thing is you make the 258 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: police look as awful as possible, you make the criminal 259 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: look as wonderful as possible. And this accumulates now nine 260 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: years of this. We may talk about this later, but 261 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: I'll mention it now. The move from this group BLM, 262 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: the local chapter is that now you don't have police 263 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: answer minor traffic calls because of what happened to this man. Yeah, well, 264 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: because they believe that the police will just get out 265 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: of control and after the not the person involved, which 266 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: was the bizarre behavior that necessitated all this, but they 267 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: believe it's the police's fault. Right, there's a better way 268 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: to send unarmed people to these minor traffic accidents. And 269 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: again they didn't use deadly force, they used the taser. Look, 270 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: that defund the police movement was soundly defeated. Politicians, even 271 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: liberal Democrats, ran from that as fast as they hood 272 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: because the polling and the election results were devastating over 273 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. The public doesn't want this. 274 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: They just don't make noise. So when you don't make noise, 275 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: you don't get media attention, you don't get a chance 276 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: to shape people's opinions. You don't get you know, you're 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: you're not part of the machine that shapes people's feelings 278 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: and thoughts. Because most normal people are quiet, they keep 279 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: to themselves and live their lives. These ridiculous advocates, oh yeah, yeah, 280 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: and they're funded by you know, a lot, a lot 281 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: of like sick wealthy people. I mean BLM walked away 282 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: with ninety million dollars. Remember, a lot of it was 283 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: unaccounted for, a lot of it turned up in mansions. 284 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, they're all kinds of scandals attached to it. 285 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: And still the al Segondo Times will present these people 286 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: as if they're legitimate. It's like, well, hold on a second, 287 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: you wouldn't do this for any other group that had 288 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: their background. That's a very sketchy, questionable financial background that 289 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: this organization has. We got more coming up. It's the 290 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken Show KFI AM six forty live everywhere, the 291 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app. All right, we're now on one to four. 292 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: So if you miss any part of the show, picking 293 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: up on the podcast using the iHeartRadio app, or go 294 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: to KFI AM sixty dot com, get to the John 295 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: and Ken page. And of course we take messages for 296 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: the boisline also through the iHeartRadio app, the microphone icon, 297 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: or leave a message through the toll free number one 298 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: eight seven seven BIST eighty six. Well, a new story 299 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: this afternoon is that the prosecution in the case of 300 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: the four college students who were murdered they attended the 301 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: University of Idaho. They were killed in their home in Moscow, Idaho, 302 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: although we learned yesterday that one of the four used 303 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: to live there came back for a visit. It's Kayleeguncaldis. 304 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: The prosecution originally was going to seal the search warrants, 305 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: and this is the search warrants concerning the home of 306 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: the suspect, Brian Coburger. They were going to seal it 307 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: until March first, but they changed their mind last night 308 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: and instead they have revealed the contents of what they 309 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: discovered in the search of Brian Coburger's home. Of course, 310 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: he lived across the border in the state of Washington. 311 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: And we have a list here from the warrant. One 312 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: nitrite type black glove, one Walmart receipt with one Dickey's tag, 313 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: two Marshal's receipts, dust container from bistle power force vacuum, 314 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: eight possible hair strands, a fire stick with a cord 315 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: and a plug, one possible animal hair strand, one possible hair, 316 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: one possible hair, one possible hair, one possible hair strand, 317 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: one computer tower, one collection of dark red spot collected 318 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: without testing, two cuttings from uncased pillow of reddish brown 319 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: stain they put in Barnes's larger stained tested and then 320 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: something about two top and bottom mattress covers. So that's 321 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: what they said that they got from the reddish stains, 322 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: probably the blood from the victims or him or or him. Now, 323 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: if it's from him, you can explain that away. If 324 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: any of this, the hair strands, the blood, the animal, 325 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: Hairstrand could be the dog that was in the college 326 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: students hone. If that's true, it's over oh all they 327 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: can claim then, oh, this was planted. Nah, yeah, I 328 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: know it's overall. It's planted. They can claim that, but 329 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: it's this is all. This is all real, hard evidence. 330 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: This is this is not circumstantial evidence. This is not 331 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: a witness memory. This is actual, actual blood and DNA. 332 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: So it's, uh, the whole thing is over. He's gonna 333 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna the most he can get is maybe a 334 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: plea deal and avoid the death penalty in Idaho. Yeah, 335 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: but don't you think this guy thinks he's too hot 336 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 1: stuff and he's gonna fight this. Well, he can fight it, 337 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: but then he's gonna get the death penalty. I mean, 338 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: he's not going to have a great attorney. You're talking 339 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: about an Idaho public defender, right, So you're not you're 340 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: you're you're not even for the most PRIs he's getting 341 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: his own team. From what I've read, what's he paying, 342 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: how's he paying? That he's got family, They've got money. 343 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: Probably somebody will support him. He got bond, so I 344 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: think they're gonna probably because he's already had reports that 345 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: he's had an investigator go to the house in Idaho 346 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: and do her own research. Do you think in Idaho 347 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: you're going to find people who are going to exonerate him? 348 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: I think I think it's impossible for him not to 349 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: end up either with the death, with the death sentence 350 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: or a life sense right, And it's just a matter 351 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: if he accepts it or not. I mean, he could 352 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: fight it, sure, but you know everybody does. And the 353 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: prisons are still filled with guilty people. All of them 354 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: had attorneys, all of them tried some wacky defense, and 355 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: all of them lost. You just need to get one 356 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: juror to not give in. I don't believe that you're innocent, 357 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: and I've seen this unfortunately happen too many times. If 358 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: you have un unlikable, if you have questionable victims. Right, 359 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: sometimes you can get that, but these these are pretty 360 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: blonde college girls and everybody. He was a young, good 361 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: looking white guy, so you know, yeah, but he's he's 362 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 1: a weirdo. You can make the tour. He believe this 363 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: is so out of character. This couldn't have happened. Why 364 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: would he do this? Yeah, but his whole history is 365 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: that he's a weirdo. Well, not a criminal, a weirdo man, 366 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: a weirdo. Yeah, that's that's that's worse. It's a big 367 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: step though, from being a weirdo. He's made everybody that's 368 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: ever met him uncomfortable. Everybody finds him. Oh yeah. He 369 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: definitely had problems connecting with people. He made that clear. 370 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: He's incapable of connecting with people. He's just got one 371 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: of the you know, he's he's somewhere on the spectrum 372 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: and he's missing the components needed to make a normal 373 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: human relationship. He never he didn't have any friends, didn't 374 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: have any any any girlfriends at all, didn't it wasn't 375 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: particularly close to his family. He said it in his 376 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: own words, I feel nothing when I when I look 377 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: at people. Also discovered in these warrants, Coburger, they say, 378 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: pre planned this, had studied other murders and studied how 379 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: to avoid detection as part of his preparation, so he 380 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: didn't do too well. I think he flunked. You know. 381 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: I heard it on another murder case today, and what 382 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: it had in common was there was a lot of blood, 383 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and once you go on a stabbing spree, you're in 384 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: some kind of a frenzy. The blood goes everywhere and 385 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: you can't you can't contain it. You can't prepare yourself 386 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: to actually murder someone if you've never done it before. 387 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: It's got to be wild. And you can imagine his 388 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: heart and his whole everything must have been racing, even 389 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: if he's detached from people to stab, for people like 390 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: this to death as quickly as he did this. What 391 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: also surprised me is this dog was home, and I 392 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: didn't really make it sounds. All we have is the 393 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: story that one of the surviving roommates hurt noises and 394 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: then came out in the hallway and supposedly passed Coburger 395 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: leaving the place. But it was kind of quiet other than, 396 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, just a little noises that got her attention. 397 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: Still a very strange case to me that I not 398 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: been able to figure out. I mean, clearly, if you're sleeping, 399 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: your ability to fight back and to make a lot 400 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: of noises probably more limited. But still I expected for 401 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: all of this wild scene of stabbing, for people to death, 402 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: and all the blood that we found, that this would 403 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: have been a noisy, crazy, chaotic scene. They were all 404 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: First of all, they were all drunk. They were all 405 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: like dead drunk, passed out. You when maybe he planned 406 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: it that way too, to come in at four am 407 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: after they had big nights out so they wouldn't resist. Yeah, 408 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: and if you're in the deepest party, your sleep cycle, 409 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: it you can have somebody stabbing away at you before 410 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: you even open your eyes because your brain shuts down 411 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: and you don't You don't hear things anymore, You don't. 412 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: You your brain activity slows to a crawl, and so 413 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: it would it. By then, it's too late. He's already 414 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: plunged a knife in several times. Um, none of that, 415 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: None of that really surprises me. I think anybody can 416 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: be killed in the middle of the night without causing 417 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: too much of a commotion, But four people, that's tough. 418 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: I expect a lot more people to say, he couldn't 419 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: have acted alone. How did it kill four people that 420 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: quickly and get alot they're all in a deep sleep 421 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: though it's champing is not as certain as shooting right. 422 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: You can and the guy can shoot somebody right in 423 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: the heart of the head. And the thing they're not 424 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: going to do much. And the thing is somebody's probably 425 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: going to fight back, and then you're gonna get cut 426 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: or you're gonna get scratched by their fingernails. Your DNA 427 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: is going to end up under the girl's fingernails, which 428 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure is what happened. I mean, it's it's it's 429 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: a it's a terrible if you wanted to get get 430 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: away with the crime, stabbing them in their rooms wildly 431 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: is the worst way to perform the crime. If you 432 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: want to take somebody out, you know, like a sharpshooter, 433 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: take take somebody out from you know, across the street, 434 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: across the parking lot, that's gonna be it's gonna be 435 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot harder to catch you if you've done that. 436 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: But good lord, making a bloody mess. Remember all the 437 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: blood that was leaking out of the house. Yeah, that's 438 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: why I was so surprised. They didn't call nine one 439 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: one for hours after the murders. I still don't get that. 440 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, she went back in the room and locked 441 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: the door, and maybe she stayed in there till like 442 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: ten in the morning, and they didn't call the police 443 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: to almost noon. I mean that could be because she 444 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: called somebody over to help deal with what she thought 445 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: was unresponsive roommates. And I don't think she went in 446 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: their room or just couldn't get him to answer the 447 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: door when she knocked. They also revealed that he finished 448 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: out the semester Coburger did following the crime, and then 449 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: they believe he planned to return to class again after 450 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: the winter break. Remember, he drove across country with his 451 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: father from Pullman, Washington to Pennsylvania. And what he was 452 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: trying to do this would come out of the hard 453 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: to get away with the perfect crime, was just act 454 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: like life was normal, nothing has changed. I'm on my 455 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: winter break. I'm gonna go back and resume classes. Don't 456 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: do anything that might get attention, like dropping out of 457 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: school and disappearing, well, disappearing to go on with your life. 458 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: Disappearing would make people wonder, Oh absolutely yeah, would so 459 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: you go on like it didn't happen. I wondered though, 460 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: if he realized that he was on any suspect list 461 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: at all. And of course the magic of this is 462 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: that the police in Moscow and the FBI, they kept 463 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: us so quiet that we all thought they had nothing 464 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: on anybody. I don't know if you could have a ratchet, 465 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: if he was buying that too, because that's what they 466 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: wanted him. That's what we said at the time. They 467 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: didn't want to alert any suspect that they really believed 468 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: did this into knowing they're on to him. That was 469 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: why they shut everything down and acted like, well, we're 470 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: trying hard here. We got lots of tips, but we 471 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. They were trying to make 472 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: him confident, make a mistake something like that. All right, 473 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: we got more covered up. Johnny kenkf I am six 474 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app by coming up 475 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: after two o'clock. What happens if the California dream, well 476 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: not everyone's dream, but the dream of the California Air 477 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: Resources Board and Governor Newsom. If we're all drive at 478 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: electric vehicles in fifteen years, what happens to the grid. 479 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: We'll take a closer look in a story that details 480 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: how this could be difficult to achieve and may require 481 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: more rules imposed on you when it comes to charging 482 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: your car. After the news at two o'clock, we're going 483 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: to go into a communist dystopian nightmare. Maybe, I mean, 484 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: is this gets your own generator? This is just really absurd, 485 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: all right? So in cartel news kind of the murderers 486 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: of six people up in this small town in northern 487 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: California until Arry County, a place called Goshen. Six people 488 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: were how else do you say it, executed, including a baby. 489 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: A ten month old baby named Nicholas was killed along 490 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: with his young mother, a sixteen year old named Melissa Paraz. 491 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: The sheriff up there, Mike Boudreau, had talked about a 492 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: cartel hit. He walked that back a little bit. But 493 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: here's what we know. The deputies had raided this home 494 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: on January third, a parole compliance check. They arrested one 495 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: of the victims who actually was killed the other day, 496 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Eladio Paraz Junior. They're saying though they don't believe that 497 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: search was related to the violence, but they say that 498 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: he's a documented Sereno gang member. Eladio Paraz junior fifty two. 499 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: By the way, there were a group of loosely connected 500 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: gangs in answered to the Mexican Mafia prison gang. We 501 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: detained him on being a felon possession of ammunition. Why 502 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: was this round? Why does this guy paroled? Maybe the 503 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: parole check check and they find asking in California, why 504 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: people get paroled? You see what happens? This guy was 505 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: in play. Oh wow, he got murdered. I wonder who 506 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: murdered him. Who do you think it was? The local 507 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: grocery store? I mean, of course it's the gangs, the 508 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: drug guartels. Yeah, it could be a rival gang, or 509 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: it could be one of the big Mexican drug cartels. 510 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: It's very likely that they're not even sure he was 511 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: the target, But why else would they come there? I 512 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: really thinking what this is? This is Jess. Bad guys 513 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: killing bad guys. And this bad guy had a family 514 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: living with him, I guess, But yeah, I don't know 515 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: whether or not that was his daughter or his girlfriend. 516 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 1: The sixteen year old with the ten month old baby. 517 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: That seventeen year old grandma too name Rosa, Well, yeah, 518 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: she had the same last name, I think, right, Yes, 519 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: Massa Perez. That's what I'm saying. Could be his daughter 520 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: or his girlfriend or wife. I mean he's fifty two, 521 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: she's sixteen. I I don't know. God, another person killed 522 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: was Marcos Paraz nineteen. That be the father of that baby. Well, 523 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: this is what this could be the sun Mexican mafia 524 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: gangs do. This is another day of work for them. 525 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: And speaking of the cartels, a funny story coming out 526 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: of Colorado. The convicted drug kingpin Joaquin el Chapo Guzman 527 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: is whining about the supermax prison we have him in 528 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: in Colorado. He's begging the Mexican president to transfer him 529 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: back home where he can probably escape. Is that the idea? Well, yeah, yeah, 530 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the that's response. Lawyer says, he doesn't 531 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: see the sun. The food is very bad quality, there's 532 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: no health care for him. In fact, he had problems 533 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: with his teeth, his molars. Instead of treating him, they 534 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: just pulled them out where they get a pair of 535 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: pliers maybe and just yanked them and no anesthetic. What 536 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: is he and his attorney delirious? Did you see the 537 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: picture in the post of what I guess would be 538 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: his room? It looks nice sexually, did you see it. 539 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: There's a little bed in the corner shelf. He's got 540 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: a desk, his own little sink. It's in isolation, so 541 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: it's his own little room. Yeah. He has no contact 542 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: with other humans and he doesn't get to go outside. No, no, 543 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: because because he's he's the biggest risk for escape. That 544 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: is imaginable. He's done it. Yeah, remember they remember he 545 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: had his Mexican cartel buddies build him a tunnel. They 546 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: dug a tunnel, and there had a long tunnel too, 547 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: and it was there was like a railroad car. Didn't 548 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: they laid down a track. Oh they did, yea. And 549 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: they got him out by their own makeshift railroad car. 550 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: So once you see that, it's like, you know, buddy, 551 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: you are going away in a solitary confinement forever. No, 552 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: no walk around the playground for you. He was given 553 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: a life sentence in twenty nineteen. He's kept in isolation, 554 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: has only been allowed a half dozen phone calls since 555 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: March of last year. His lawyer says this is physical torture. 556 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: This is a cartel boss who oversaw the murders of 557 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: how many people? Yeah, not to Mensia. They think he's 558 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: killed a lot of people himself. Yeah, no, he's garbage. 559 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: He ought to be executed. He's lucky he's being allowed 560 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: to live. You know, he should be. I'd watch it. 561 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: I'd watch it on television to see him tortured every day, 562 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: all these people. The Mexican president shut down the request 563 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: at a news conference on Tuesday, not really taking it seriously. 564 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: What's the Mexican president gonna do? Well, what if they 565 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: sent him a bribe? But what's he gonna do a 566 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: couple of billion dollars? Am Low, Well, that's not the 567 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: you got. Well, then he negotiates with the US and 568 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: our guy let him come home, we'll take care of him, 569 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: and then you let him go because nobody's taking that call. 570 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: Um Biden, Oh, what can we do for you? Sure? 571 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: What you're saying? Happy birthday to your first Yeah, you 572 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: have to get Biden on a bad day at dementia. 573 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: They yes, exactly right. You have signed Adam sign what 574 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: do you call those things? The good amnesty or get 575 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: the other word for amnesty, clement pardon, pardon, that's pardon, 576 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: yes right, um, yeah he could do that because related 577 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: to this, apparently one of Mexico's former top prosecutors is 578 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: on trial in New York for taking massive amounts of 579 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: money from the drug cartels. Sina Loa Cartelli tells he 580 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: had testified that he had personally given this guy millions 581 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and bribes to let the cartel operate with impunity. And 582 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: it's not that we didn't think this was going on, 583 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: but it's interesting to see they finally have somebody on 584 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: trial for taking the bride. But you see Naro Garcia Luna. 585 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: They get a lot of headlines forgetting Alchopo, forgetting this 586 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: former prosecutor, and he's going to go to prison for 587 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: a long time. But it doesn't matter because it doesn't 588 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: impede the flow of drugs. It's the drugs the distribution pipeline. 589 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: But this is how they do it. Apparently he provided 590 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: them with safe passage for their drugs show. But except 591 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: the drug car trails employ many, many thousands of people. 592 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: But this guy was at the top of the food change. 593 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: But now there's a new guy, the vice president is 594 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: at the top of the food That's why I'm saying 595 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: that El Chapo should send Amblo abroad, because that seems 596 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: to be the way things work. But they well, why 597 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: doesn't the government work on destroying the distribution channels because 598 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: that's what's killing one hundred thousand people a year. It's 599 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: fine to get these guys, but these guys are easily replaceable. 600 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: And it's like any company. If the CEO dies, the 601 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: next guy in the chain moves up a notch. Everybody 602 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: moves up a notch. You know, the vice president becomes 603 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: the president. So they I feel like they have these 604 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: high profile trials or prosecutions and there's very little attention 605 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: paid to billions of dollars worth of drugs coming over 606 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: the border every Yeah, because what you're saying, El Chapol 607 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: has got replaced. It's not like this cartel isn't still 608 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: operating a lot of drugs into the US and people. Yeah, 609 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: they're all interchangeable. There's many executives in the company, so 610 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: anybody could retire or or die or get sick on 611 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: any day, and so they have a line of succession 612 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: in place for that. So you know, there's there's there's 613 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: little to no focus on actually stopping the drug flow 614 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: in when we return. How much can the California power 615 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: grid take if we get all these electric cars on 616 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: the roads. John and ken kf I am six forty 617 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: live everywhere. The iHeartRadio Act deb Remark live in the 618 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: twenty four Hour Cafe news room