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Speaker 3: It's not the size of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 3: It's the size of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast Preview season

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Speaker 1: marches on and despite the fact that Oregon State and

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Speaker 1: Wazoo no longer have a scheduling agreement with the Mountain West,

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Speaker 1: we're going to welcome him with open arms for this episode.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, we have some news.

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Speaker 1: We have a watch party for week zero, a live

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Speaker 1: event that you can come watch with Colin Wilson, Duck Stucky, myself,

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Speaker 1: Joe's on Weed in Chicago, Illinois on August twenty third.

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Speaker 1: Kickoff starts at eleven, So meet us there you farm

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Speaker 1: again in Iowa State, k State, the whole crew. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun, have some drinks, throw

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Speaker 1: down some bets. Get These seasons started off right now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of the Beavers and Koogs, we have our full

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Speaker 1: BBOC team to discuss the PAC two that means Stucky,

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Speaker 1: Colin Wilson, Duck and myself. As you can see, the

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Speaker 1: whole allotment of our squad is here. And a reminder

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Speaker 1: for all of you if you're listening, if you enjoy

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Speaker 1: our work, if you want to get our bets as

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Speaker 1: soon as we put them in the Action Network AP,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and search us, and then go ahead and follow.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go for Colin Wilson, for Stucky. If you're

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Speaker 1: looking for Josh Nunn, go ahead and punch in Duck.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking for me, type in breeze b R

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Speaker 1: E S E. All Right, We've already gotten our feet

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Speaker 1: wet in preview season with the sun Belt, but this

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Speaker 1: will be Stucky's preview debut. Stuck. Has football officially started?

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Speaker 1: In your mind? Now that you're diving into two deeps, scheduling, traps,

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Speaker 1: turnover lock, everything that goes in to trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out these teams coast to coast? Where are you emotionally?

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Speaker 1: Has the season already begun?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean that started for a bit to go. So

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Speaker 4: I've already been in full grind mode. Yeah, I'm the

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Speaker 4: sitching ready to go. Yeah, I'm you start loading some

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Speaker 4: more futures in the apps. Make sure you follow me

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Speaker 4: there and then Yeah, we talked to the guys at

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Speaker 4: Joe's eleven o'clock for the first kickoff, and I'll you know,

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Speaker 4: I'll be there till two in the morning whenever the

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Speaker 4: I don't know what is it Hawaii play why Stanfords

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Speaker 4: that night, whenever the last game it so come you

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Speaker 4: listen to the podcast. Drinks around me. So looking forward

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Speaker 4: to seeing a lot of you guys there. Let's dive

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Speaker 4: into some pac too.

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, are we.

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Speaker 3: Doing this or not?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm where are we doing it or not?

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Speaker 1: Second being a line.

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Speaker 3: If we can't do this right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go wazoo off the top of the two

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Speaker 1: pack two. They won the most games last year eight

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Speaker 1: and five, lost in the Holiday Bowl fifty two thirty

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Speaker 1: five to QS. Their win till this season is set

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Speaker 1: coast with Dickard, in comes Jimmy Rodgers from South Dakota State.

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Speaker 1: He went twenty seven and three as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: one Natty one semi final trip. So what does that mean? Well,

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Speaker 1: it means bye bye air Raid, Hello, ground and pound.

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Speaker 1: Let's start there, Stuck, do you think they have the

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Speaker 4: Even though it's a weird schedule. It's eleven opponents from

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Speaker 1: Let me get a quick take here, because you live

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Speaker 1: But Jesse Bobbit comes in only two years of coordinator experience.

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Speaker 1: But last year his defense with the Jack Rabbits was

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Speaker 7: I expect that the talent will be the one that

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Speaker 7: familiarity with the system. It's still not enough for me

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Speaker 7: The concern for me is that we're now the second

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Speaker 7: that stuck. You had alluded to the schedule, which is

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Speaker 7: I don't think that the road games are exceedingly winnable.

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Speaker 7: Toledo comes in. I think that'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 7: of the first I bet under five and a half.

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Speaker 1: How low are your projections column? Because you could optimistically

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Speaker 1: look at this as a mystery box, a new scheme,

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Speaker 1: just a small likelihood that it all clicks and they

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Speaker 1: win every single game that they're supposed to win. These

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Speaker 1: there was really no wiggle room if they drop any

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Speaker 2: Right, And I knew that I would be coming into

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Speaker 2: the pack too as the contrarian to Duck and Stuck.

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Speaker 5: Right. I knew that.

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Speaker 2: With these two teams, I was going to be completely contrariant,

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Speaker 2: and I am contrarian to their opinions and almost everybody else's.

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Speaker 5: Opinion on Washington State.

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Speaker 2: And I make this at five point eight, which says

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Speaker 2: with plus Jews like plus one.

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Speaker 5: Thirty on five and a half, I should go over.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I haven't fired on it because it's one of those things,

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Speaker 2: like I said on the Sunbelt podcast where some of

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Speaker 2: these teams get dog piled in the market and the

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Speaker 2: juice moves so much you just make a calendar reminder

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Speaker 2: on like August nineteenth, to go in and get a

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Speaker 2: better number when you can. Maybe you even get a

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Speaker 2: Those are three games it should absolutely be wins when

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Speaker 4: Now we're way off numbers, but I mean I haven't

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Speaker 1: Real quick, Colin, if you're in an island with Wazoo,

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Speaker 5: I know some German? Well no, please tell me.

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Speaker 1: If you're hoping that Zev has that dog in him,

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Speaker 1: I think the nation could be introduced to his nickname

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Speaker 1: he said, it's not a Pack two preview without the

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Speaker 4: It's sit at six and a half.

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Speaker 1: It's because they have eight starters, returning four on each

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Speaker 1: the team, Anthony Hankerson. He's a star. Over twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: They pair him with Malik Murphy and they play. They

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Speaker 2: I love Oregon State. I love and listen the fact

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Speaker 5: I always have.

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Speaker 2: But my projection does not meet where the current market is.

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Speaker 2: Any memories of our of our podcast over the recent years,

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Speaker 2: willing to listen to the guys that helped me change

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Speaker 2: my mind. I've already played under six and a half

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Speaker 2: plus one fifty. The plus one fifth is so crucially

437
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Speaker 2: important because those there's three games in the last six

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Speaker 2: where you can hedge that plus one fifty off and

439
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Speaker 2: take a money line on the other side like you

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Speaker 2: could with Washington State, which is my plan of action.

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Speaker 2: One of those two games, I will take Washington State

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Speaker 2: to hedge the plus one fifty under six and a half.

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Speaker 1: You work yourself up into a lather. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: what our other two guests have to think about this.

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Speaker 1: Does the running game and a potentially more aggressive defense

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Speaker 1: interest you stuck? Or are you selling the beams right

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Speaker 1: out of the first week of the season.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean this open six and a half plan.

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Speaker 4: I project six point eight. So wind total's now sitting

450
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Speaker 4: right around seven point two with juice, So I actually

451
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Speaker 4: lean under at this number. Ten winnable games on the schedule.

452
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Speaker 4: They're not beating Texas Tech, they're not beating Oregon. They

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Speaker 4: get a bunch of teams that are in reset mode,

454
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Speaker 4: right Like, they face eight new quarterbacks they have, so like,

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Speaker 4: if you guarantee that they lose to Texas Tech, they

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Speaker 4: lose to Oregon, they beat La Fayette.

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Speaker 1: There's nine games left.

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Speaker 4: Seven of those nine have new coaches. The other two

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Speaker 4: are Houston and Cal with new quarterbacks. And if you

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Speaker 4: look just based on average returning starters, Oregon State faces

461
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Speaker 4: the third fewest in all of college football. So what

462
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Speaker 4: does that mean. There's a lot of teams on their

463
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Speaker 4: schedule are starting new and there's a ton of new coaches,

464
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Speaker 4: there's new quarterbacks, and there's a lot of turnover and

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Speaker 4: all these rosters, what does that mean a lot of variants,

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Speaker 4: So like what will Fresno look like? What will Tulsa

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Speaker 4: look like? Now, Colin brings up a good point. The

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Speaker 4: one thing I am worried about. First of all, I'm

469
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Speaker 4: not a Malik Murphy guy. He can't move. He's two

470
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Speaker 4: inaccurate that their plan here is is to you know,

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Speaker 4: feed Hankerson and then you have Walker back a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: You hope that they have some guy like Clemens as

473
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Speaker 4: the step up. He's a former Michigan transfer. They some

474
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Speaker 4: guys that are fast, so I think they're going to

475
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Speaker 4: just run round, run, and then Murphy has a canon arm.

476
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Speaker 4: He's just too inaccurate and he makes too many poor decisions.

477
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Speaker 4: But the biggest thing is that the offensive line everything

478
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Speaker 4: could fall apart, and like they couldn't they might not

479
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Speaker 4: be able to run the ball with the offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're left tackle from last year with the Ravens,

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Speaker 4: the right tackles with Arizona. They're left guard is with

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Speaker 4: the Falcons. Their right guard they're counting on recovering from

483
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Speaker 4: an ac on n He's still not ready. It's like

484
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Speaker 4: their center is good that's it. Their defensive coordinator left,

485
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Speaker 4: he resigned. He's not with Cali. They'll miss him in

486
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Speaker 4: recruiting defensive back coach. He left, his dad died and

487
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Speaker 4: his mom was in the hospital. It's just an unfortunate situation.

488
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Speaker 4: So Bray's going to take over the reason that d

489
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Speaker 4: stuck last year. I mean, let's be honest, his injuries.

490
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Speaker 4: At one point, seventeen of the twenty two on they're

491
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Speaker 4: two deep or how with injuries at the same time,

492
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Speaker 4: so like they were decimated. They moved the tight end

493
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Speaker 4: to defensive line. Who's now going to start on defensive

494
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Speaker 4: line this year? I think they'll be you know, if

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Speaker 4: you look the secondary, we'll see there's some guys that

496
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Speaker 4: I don't even know when they're going to be ready.

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Speaker 4: Like Singleton has like pro potential, but he's always heard.

498
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Speaker 4: This guy who's been around forever. I don't know when

499
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Speaker 4: he's coming back. But I think the secondary should be

500
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Speaker 4: a little bit better, Like they threw some guys into

501
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Speaker 4: the fire last year. Thomas is really good at safety.

502
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Speaker 4: But the defensive line, like I get, if you look,

503
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Speaker 4: they're probably their best players tailor at all outside linebacker.

504
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Speaker 4: They bring in a couple other outside linebackers who I

505
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Speaker 4: think could give them some more juice because they only

506
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Speaker 4: had seven sacks last year, low in all the FBS.

507
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Speaker 4: But to Collins point, I don't know if it'll stop

508
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Speaker 4: the run. And well, I think their pressure should be

509
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Speaker 4: a little better, their secondary should be a little better,

510
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Speaker 4: especially they get some of these guys back. They lost

511
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Speaker 4: three starting I mean, their injuries were crazy last year

512
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Speaker 4: for Oregon State. They lost three starting offensive lineman injury,

513
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Speaker 4: three corners. They're five to five of their top defensive tackles.

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Speaker 4: But if I look at the schedule, who's throwing the

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Speaker 4: ball they're not, So they're not beating text tech in

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Speaker 4: organ who's throwing the ball that you're worried about?

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Speaker 1: Nobody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and their brundy might be very bad. Other teams

519
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Speaker 4: controlling the ball against controlling the clock against them, and

520
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Speaker 4: then on the other side, if their offensive line can't

521
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Speaker 4: hold up, then it might all fall apart. So I

522
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Speaker 4: have too many questions to go over here my numbers.

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Speaker 4: Now after this has been hit, say there's value on

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Speaker 4: the under A lot of this is going to come

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Speaker 4: down to those those two games. I think they'll probably

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Speaker 4: lose to Houston. So originally I like wanted to buy

527
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Speaker 4: this team, but it's too expensive. Now duck with do

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Speaker 4: you think similar?

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Speaker 7: I won't hit on all the points you made, but

530
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Speaker 7: I'm really concerned about the trenches. The offensive line appears

531
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Speaker 7: to be a mess. They have to play better than

532
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Speaker 7: they did like year. Defensively, they couldn't stop the run.

533
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Speaker 7: There was just so many stretches in the season where

534
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Speaker 7: teams could just run all over this group. And then

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Speaker 7: not only that, but they were bad and securing havoc

536
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Speaker 7: as well. Dead last and FBS as a team with

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Speaker 7: just seven sacks registered and forty five tackles for loss,

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Speaker 7: And it was the pass coverage unit that paid the

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Speaker 7: price because you couldn't get any pressure to opposing quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: and so coverage had to hold on for an extra

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Speaker 7: two seconds and they just couldn't hold up in the

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Speaker 7: back end. So I think the key that unlocks this

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Speaker 7: team this year is shoring up the offensive line and

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Speaker 7: finding a combo that works to possess the football and

545
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Speaker 7: run the ball, and then they've got to figure out

546
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Speaker 7: a way to get pressure because if not, it could

547
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Speaker 7: just be another one of those things where you see

548
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Speaker 7: four man front and you see people running the ball

549
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Speaker 7: all over Oregon State again, and the pass coverage is

550
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Speaker 7: just going to be middling because there's no pressure and

551
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Speaker 7: they have to try to cover for so long. So

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Speaker 7: I think it's concerning. I think the schedule is also

553
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Speaker 7: really concerning. I think the Cal game is one where

554
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Speaker 7: we may not see it rear it's a ugly head,

555
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Speaker 7: but certainly he could against Fresno and this team could

556
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Speaker 7: be one and four getting out of September, and then

557
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Speaker 7: you got to go to app State and then double

558
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Speaker 7: back for Wake. Maybe that's a split. So there's just

559
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Speaker 7: too much that goes on early in the schedule, and

560
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Speaker 7: then you have a locker room where you're one and four,

561
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Speaker 7: one and five, two and five, and you've got to

562
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Speaker 7: rally the troops to try to get this team to

563
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Speaker 7: fight and scratch and claw your way to a bowl game.

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Speaker 7: Seven could be tough here. I think there's some winnable

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Speaker 7: games late in the schedule. If this coaching staff can

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Speaker 7: keep everybody's head in it with some early season losses,

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Speaker 7: that I think will be the biggest challenge for against

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Speaker 7: eight this season.

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Speaker 4: Mike Gott says they're going to finish with seven wins

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Speaker 4: but no interest.

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Speaker 1: Now all right, stuck, thank you for your service. I

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Speaker 1: am glad that you were back. If you are interested

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Speaker 1: in following his work here at BBOC, you're in luck

574
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Speaker 1: because after this episode covering the Mountain West, he's riding

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Speaker 1: for every single preview the rest of the way. We

576
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Speaker 1: got the American. Forget about the AAC, it's the American,

577
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Speaker 1: now the MAC and then all the power forward teams

578
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Speaker 1: including Notre Dame as well. Thank you so much, stucky gods.

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Speaker 1: And it's often than a rocky tab one of the

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Speaker 1: Mountain West Conference, which thanks to the Pac twelve fallout,

581
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Speaker 1: is now being gutted next year. Basically, all the schools

582
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Speaker 1: that have state in their name are going to the

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Speaker 1: Pacific Conference whatever that pack number afterwards ends up landing on,

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Speaker 1: and the Mountain West Conference next year will be Air

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Speaker 1: Force Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico, Northern Illinois, and football only

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Speaker 1: San Jose State, UNLV, UTEP and Wyoming. I have to

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Speaker 1: throw out a quick rant here because about six years

588
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Speaker 1: ago I was on Twitter and I suggested that the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve at that time needed to add the Zags

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Speaker 1: in basketball, and they need to add Boise State as

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Speaker 1: a full time member. And I remember specifically a lot

592
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Speaker 1: of people with Stanford or cal Berkeley in their Twitter profiles.

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Speaker 1: We are not going to add a school that was

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Speaker 1: a junior college in the seventies to our conference. That's ridiculous.

595
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Speaker 1: We have too much pristine as though the Arizona schools

596
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Speaker 1: were Harvard and Yale or something, and now here we are.

597
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Speaker 1: Instead of having one really good conference where you can

598
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Speaker 1: add in Oregon State and Wazoo, No, we have to

599
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Speaker 1: split this baby and we have two middling, you know,

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Speaker 1: G five conferences in terms of the overall talent. I'm

601
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Speaker 1: pissed about it. What I'm not pissed about is how

602
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Speaker 1: good this conference could be this year, how competitive for

603
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Speaker 1: those teams trying to get into that slot to challenge Boise.

604
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Speaker 1: So let's start with the Broncos at the top, because

605
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Speaker 1: they punched their ticket to the twelve team college role Playoff,

606
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Speaker 1: and beyond that, not only did they do so, but

607
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Speaker 1: they took Oregon fifteen rounds in autsin one of the

608
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Speaker 1: best games of the entire season. Ashton genty ends up,

609
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Speaker 1: you know, finishing second in the Heisman Race. Just an

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Speaker 1: incredible run for him. He was also the first runner

611
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Speaker 1: up to get three hundred first place votes in twelve years.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Manti Teo and his run and his

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Speaker 1: invisible girlfriend. But let's get into the nitty gritty of

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Speaker 1: what they bring back what they did last year, As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, twelve and two, seven to zero in the

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Speaker 1: Mountain West, they beat UNLB twice to get the crown

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Speaker 1: one forty five to win the conference. This time around,

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Speaker 1: their win total is sitting at nine and a half,

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Speaker 1: even though genty is out the door now going to

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Speaker 1: be the offensive engine for the Las Vegas Raiders. Fifteen

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Speaker 1: starters return nine on offense, six on defense, ninth in

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Speaker 1: returning production, which is very rare for a G five school,

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Speaker 1: ninth on offense, thirty first on defense. First question ken

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Speaker 1: they replaced gents moneyball style in the aggregate sire gains.

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Speaker 1: Malik Sharad comes in from Fresno. Breezy Dubar, who I love.

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Speaker 1: Dubar is a guy who I still think could be

627
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Speaker 1: a breakout candidate because he is an absolute athletic freak.

628
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Speaker 1: He can squat five twenty. He ran a ten point

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Speaker 1: six one hundred meters dash thirty nine inch vertical jump

630
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Speaker 1: just like get this guy in the open field. Let's

631
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Speaker 1: see what he can do. Obviously, Genty ate up every

632
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Speaker 1: single carry. His usage was out of control last season,

633
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Speaker 1: but I think the running back room is still in

634
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: really good hands by G five standards. Maddox Mattson was

635
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Speaker 1: really underrated at times in my opinion. He can protect

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Speaker 1: the ball. He did so throughout the season until that

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Speaker 1: Penn State game. I understand they were press saying they

638
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Speaker 1: were down in that game. I'm not going to hold

639
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Speaker 1: that against him. He was accurate. He did some things

640
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Speaker 1: with his legs as well. Now he gets Lauder back

641
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Speaker 1: at tight ends. Chris Marshall is finally healthy. He's been

642
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Speaker 1: kind of a mystery guy the whole way. But he

643
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Speaker 1: joins Bolton Cables in the wide receiver room, so they

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Speaker 1: have talent everywhere. Can the offensive line improve a bit

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Speaker 1: because Genty, when you look at the rushing numbers, you

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Speaker 1: assume great offensive line. Right While they were forty fifth

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Speaker 1: in line yards, Genty had just a bajillion yards after

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Speaker 1: contact last year. So based on the experience and flexibility

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Speaker 1: that they have in the too deep on the offensive line,

650
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Speaker 1: I do think they could get better now. Defensively, they

651
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: blitzed more last year than just about anybody, and it worked.

652
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Speaker 1: They went from thirty six sacks in twenty twenty three

653
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Speaker 1: to fifty five last fall. That was first in the

654
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Speaker 1: entire country. But the other side of that is they

655
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Speaker 1: also get up twenty nine passing plays of thirty yards

656
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Speaker 1: or more, which was one hundred and thirty first in

657
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Speaker 1: the country. Can the secondary hold up being held on

658
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: islands and having to you know, basically have no help

659
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Speaker 1: over the top with a lot of those cover zero blitzes.

660
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Speaker 1: We'll see, especially when they draw USF in a tricky

661
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: spot to be in the season and Notre Dame. Both

662
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Speaker 1: those games are on the road in the first five weeks.

663
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Speaker 1: Colin anything else I missed in terms of the table

664
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Speaker 1: setting for this team that you think is an absolute

665
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Speaker 1: headline that we need to focus when we talk about the.

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Speaker 5: Broncos change an offensive coordinator.

667
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Speaker 2: I it's one of the biggest drop offs in all

668
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Speaker 2: of college football when you listen. I said this on

669
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Speaker 2: the Kickoff podcast. The reason Ohio State won the national

670
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: title ISSM because they paid twenty million for a roster.

671
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Speaker 2: Anybody can have twenty million for a roster, ass North Carolina,

672
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: but when you've got Chip Kelly, and you've got Jim Knowles.

673
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: You can make changes on the fly, show up to

674
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Speaker 2: a playoff game and play a completely different style. And

675
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: they had an offensive coordinator to Dirk Cotter that absolutely

676
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: could game plan and out co checks aes and knows anybody.

677
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Speaker 2: So the question is is Nate Potter going to be

678
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Speaker 2: able to do the same thing he's been the co

679
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Speaker 2: oc he's been under the wings. We'll see if he

680
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: is as creative. You know, we've had other Andy Avolos,

681
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Speaker 2: We've had other dcs ocs here before that could have

682
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: kind of veered off of gone to other places and

683
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: not able to prove they were as good.

684
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Speaker 5: So we'll see that that.

685
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Speaker 2: The word is still out there, and I think that's

686
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Speaker 2: where you want to start because when you talk about

687
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Speaker 2: can we fill it in the aggregate with sire gains,

688
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: if you look at his extremely limited sample size, twenty

689
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: carries six mistackles forced. If you aggregate that out, that

690
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: is nowhere near the rate of creating mistackles than gent did.

691
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Speaker 2: So you know genty all this, you know he's extremely special.

692
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Speaker 2: But the thing was is even if he got touched

693
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Speaker 2: in the backfield, he was able to make yards after contact. Now,

694
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Speaker 2: Sira Gains did have four yards after first contact. That

695
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Speaker 2: is positive. Again, twenty carries. You know, we'll see how

696
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: that can that can handle out. I think Maddix Madison,

697
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, he has a ton to prove in my eyes.

698
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Speaker 2: Twenty one to three TD to I T ratio probably

699
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Speaker 2: has everybody high up saying this offense is going to

700
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Speaker 2: be great because Madison's got it all under control. But

701
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Speaker 2: that is nowhere near what the other numbers say. Seven

702
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Speaker 2: to thirteen big time throws to turnover worthy plays. He

703
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: finished fiftieth in the nation an on target rate. What's

704
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: an on target ball? It's when your wide receiver doesn't

705
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Speaker 2: have to move, he doesn't have to shift, he's in

706
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 2: stride and to hit them right in the numbers. Matt'son

707
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Speaker 2: finished fiftieth in the nation. That's not close to me

708
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Speaker 2: and one of the best. And you know, la Treell

709
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Speaker 2: Caple's going.

710
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Speaker 5: To be the guy here.

711
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Speaker 2: Forty eight targets out of the slot. That's going to

712
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Speaker 2: be where we're going to go with this offense. I'm

713
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: much more probably optimistic about the defense, although I've never

714
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: been optimistic about an Eric Shnander defense.

715
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Speaker 5: Going back to UCF.

716
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Speaker 2: Going back to Nebraska, Boise finished one hundred and thirty

717
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: second tackling last year. Sloppy arm, tackles heads in the

718
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: wrong places. Yeah, they're aggressive with the blitz and they

719
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: got it home, especially against Penn State. Drew Aller could

720
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Speaker 2: not figure out what the hell Shenander was calling from

721
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Speaker 2: a blitz perspective. But for the top five tacklers returned

722
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Speaker 2: for Shenanders, so you can expect what we had last

723
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Speaker 2: year sort of be the same. The tackling should still

724
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Speaker 2: be sloppy, but everything else is going to be great,

725
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Speaker 2: including stud linebacker Jaden virgin Morgan ten sacks, five and

726
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: a half TfL, So I expect the same out of

727
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Speaker 2: the defense. The big question is the drop off on

728
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Speaker 2: the offense. I think they're double digit favorites. I think

729
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Speaker 2: you've kind of throw away the non con. I think

730
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Speaker 2: you kind of throw away the whole playoff thumbers are

731
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: just out of control. What these books are asking for

732
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Speaker 2: to make the playoff this early in the season, especially

733
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Speaker 2: with a brand name like Boise State, You're never going

734
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Speaker 2: to get a number like that, kind of like Notre Dame,

735
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Speaker 2: You're never going to get a good number in the

736
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Speaker 2: playoff market whatsoever. So you kind of concentrate on the

737
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: Mountain West schedule double digit favorites in every Mountain West

738
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Speaker 2: Conference game, depending on where you power rate UNLV. There's

739
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: some minus one forties out of there on Boise to

740
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Speaker 2: win the Mountain West. I think that's better than the

741
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Speaker 2: money line that you would get in a potential championship game.

742
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Speaker 2: Whether they're playing it in Vegas or San Jose or

743
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: playing in Boise, you're going to get a This is

744
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: a better money line ticket at minus one forty than

745
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: what you're going to get there. It's a tricky spot

746
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: hosting app off of a buy, but if you listen

747
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: to the sun Belt Pod, I don't really think it's

748
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: going to be a problem with that state this year.

749
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is kind of a big problem. I project

750
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: the Irish about fifteen and a half. I think the

751
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: market is in there around that. If you want to

752
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: get frisky and you're looking at that playoff plus one ninety,

753
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: don't take it. Take the money line against Notre Dame,

754
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: which I don't think they could win that game, but

755
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Speaker 2: that is a much better number and a game that

756
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Speaker 2: they're going to have to have to be considered for

757
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Speaker 2: the playoff. I think like you could have to win

758
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: every other game and going eleven to one and keep

759
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Speaker 2: it close and cover.

760
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: Against Notre Dame.

761
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: But why not just take that money line instead of

762
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: that playoff number at plus one ninety my favorite bet

763
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Speaker 2: Mountain West Conference minus one for you. It's a great

764
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Speaker 2: money line ticket come first Saturday of December.

765
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Speaker 1: Duck, do you think Boise is vulnerable here? Because not

766
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Speaker 1: only were the numbers that Colin just listed out for

767
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: matts and under pressure in terms of putting the ball

768
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Speaker 1: on the numbers, he did all that with every single

769
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Speaker 1: eye on the defense on gen Z, you know, the

770
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Speaker 1: play actions he got one on one. He doesn't have

771
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Speaker 1: to worry about exotic coverages, he doesn't have to worry

772
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Speaker 1: about weird blitz's. That's all out the window this year.

773
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Speaker 1: So where are you emotionally? Let's start with the offense first,

774
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Speaker 1: with a brand new play caller, you know, having to

775
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: shoulder the schematic load for Boise this year, where are

776
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Speaker 1: you with this offense?

777
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Speaker 7: I think that it's almost impossible to replace a generational

778
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 7: talent like Ashton Genty, so they're going to have to

779
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 7: pivot and add some quarks to the off that we're

780
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 7: not used to seeing from Boise State in the previous version.

781
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 7: But I think the running back room does have some dudes,

782
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Speaker 7: as we had mentioned, and so I think as long

783
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Speaker 7: as the offensive line performs as they did last year,

784
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 7: they look solid by Mountain West standards, running the football

785
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 7: shouldn't be an issue. Now Addix Madison is going to

786
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 7: have more placed on his shoulders this season. I'll be

787
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 7: interested to see if he has taken a step in

788
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 7: his maturation as a passer to improve a little bit

789
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 7: of his accuracy and a little bit of the timing

790
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 7: that maybe was lacking last season. Be a real interesting

791
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 7: parameter in their opener against South Florida to see how

792
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: that goes along with their game against Notre Dame. But

793
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Speaker 7: I think in Mountain West play this team will be fine,

794
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 7: and specifically to hit home on what Colin said, I

795
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Speaker 7: think even if Boise were to have a stunning loss

796
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Speaker 7: in Mountain West conference play, they're still going to be

797
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 7: in position to make the championship game. I think no

798
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 7: matter where it's played, they'll be favored. I actually did

799
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 7: play Boise to win the Mountain West at minus one

800
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Speaker 7: twenty earlier in the Summer. Really like this team. I

801
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 7: think they're head and shoulders above the rest of the

802
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 7: players that are in the Mountain West Conference this season.

803
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 7: But offensively, I think we'll see a few other nuances

804
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 7: from the offense. It's not just going to be as

805
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 7: run heavy as it was last year. We'll be real

806
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 7: interested to watch to see the keys, to see if

807
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 7: Maddox Madison has matured as a passer.

808
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Speaker 5: That's what That's what it'll come down to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Colin put it in such a way that I agree.

810
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Speaker 1: I'm not willing to pay the tax on Boise From

811
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Speaker 1: a preseason perspective.

812
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: What did Boise State do last year when they went

813
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: to the Dirty South? They nearly got their ass beat

814
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: by Georgia Southern because humidity and experience. I don't know what,

815
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: but what South Florida wants to do against this Shenander defense.

816
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's upset.

817
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Speaker 2: Alert all the way I would be. I would not

818
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Speaker 2: be taking Boise State double first week. They went to

819
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Speaker 2: the Dirty South last year and they got played all right.

820
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Speaker 1: We turned to a team that I think could be

821
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: polarizing in this conversation. At least, I'm hoping for some

822
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: difference of opinion on the UNLV running ReBs eleven and

823
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: three last year, six and one. In conference play, they

824
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: lose twice to Boise. They did beat Cal twenty four

825
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: to thirteen in the LA Bowl. They're seven to one

826
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Speaker 1: to win the Mountain West Conference. Their win total is

827
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: sitting at eight and a half. Two starters returning, though

828
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: only one on each side of the ball, one hundred

829
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: and twenty ninth and returning production. Dan Mullen comes into

830
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Sin City with an interesting reputation. He can really coach

831
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Speaker 1: up offense, particularly the spread attacks that started at Utah

832
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach with Alex Smith, then at Florida

833
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: with Tbow. Then he does his magic in Mississippi State,

834
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: and that really should count as a minor miracle. The

835
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: very first college Football playoff rankings, Mississippi State was number

836
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: one in the country because of the work that he

837
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: did with Dak Prescott and that offense. Hell, even Kyle

838
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: Trast looked like a Heisman candidate under Mullen's tutelage. So

839
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Speaker 1: he's great in terms of scheming things up and putting

840
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Speaker 1: his quarterbacks in friendly systems. What he is not is

841
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: a natural recruiter. We know this he couldn't consistently recruit

842
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: the big boys in the SEC. Will that matter long

843
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: term at UNLV. We'll see. We'll see if he's even

844
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: long for this job, good or bad. This could be

845
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: a stepping stone, or he could go back to the booth,

846
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: go back to being a color commentation. What we know

847
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: this year is they have very little experience returning, but

848
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: a ton of high upside talent that usually screams volatility.

849
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: That's at least why I think we could be in

850
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: different directions on this team. Jet Thomas is back at

851
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: the running back position. He's on the Maxwell watch list

852
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: because he's really shifty. He's got upside in the passing game,

853
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: but the go go is gone. And when you looked

854
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: at some of his big runs last year, that playbook

855
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: just opened up rushing lanes. You know, with Hojj Mahlik Williams,

856
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: you always had to respect his legs in the rushing game,

857
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: in the red game, in the option game, and the

858
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: line replaces everyone. They were an elite in the trench

859
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: last year, tenth in lineyards, and now they got all

860
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: these new faces. On top of it, you got a

861
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: QB battle that's going to persist into fall camp. Alex

862
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Orgy has great tools. He's an elite runner. He's got

863
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: a big arm, but he's so inaccurate.

864
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: A good old fashioned door g And then we.

865
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Have Anthony Klandria, who obviously can win you games. There

866
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: will be moments where you're like, this guy is the truth.

867
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: He's Conference Player of the Year quality because of his

868
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: gambling style. He's you know, gonna make plays off platform

869
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: when things break down. But then also he can be

870
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: a turnover machine. Last two years at Virginia twenty eight

871
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: big time throws great, twenty seven turnover worthy plays, not great. Defensively,

872
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: hard and soul. Guys like Jackson Woodard and Jalen Catalan

873
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: are gone, and so to his defensive coordinator Zach Arnette,

874
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: who left for personal reasons in April. Paul Gouther takes

875
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: over play calling duties. He hasn't called a play in

876
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: a college game in twenty five years. When we use

877
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: the head coach of your Sinus Go Bears. If that's

878
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: a weird school to have on your CV, it's not

879
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: if you're on Mullen staff, because that's where he played

880
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: his college football in the early nineties. He was a

881
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: tight end. I think eight and four is a successful

882
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: year here. You know, this is a program that broke

883
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: through last year. This is not a perennial power, you

884
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: know out west. Given the schedule that features UCLA, a

885
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: tricky roadie to Miami of Ohio another roady at Boise,

886
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I like that they moved the Idaho State game up

887
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: to week zero because of what it does is it

888
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: gives them buys around that road trip to Oxford three

889
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: buys by October twenty fifth. So in terms of trying

890
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: to find some continuity, maybe juggling quarterbacks. If you make

891
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: a switch and you have a bye week to work

892
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: in somebody new, I think that's a huge benefit for

893
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: a team with a new staff in new quarterbacks. But

894
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: this defense could fall from top thirty nationally to barely

895
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: top seventy five in my opinion, So I'm gonna go

896
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: under the eight and a half here. I think there's

897
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. And you know, with some

898
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: of these morquy hires, whether it's Bill Belichick in North

899
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Carolina or Mullen here in Sin City, I think there's

900
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: high variance. I think there's a chance that they just

901
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: don't connect. It doesn't hit you know, the quarterback play

902
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. I think could be volatile and

903
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: not in a good way. So what do you think

904
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Colin will go to you first on a team that

905
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: you actually have a play in Week one, not to

906
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: be confused with a week zero. They're gonna have, you know,

907
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: two games by the end of that first full.

908
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: Saturday, Bevaga Beva.

909
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: The first comment is, is Paul gun thirty automatically assume, because

910
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: there's so much NFL experience, there's no college football experience,

911
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: that this is a downgrade to DC. I will remind

912
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: everybody that that narrative floated around to Colorado with Robert Livingston.

913
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: He came in from the Bengals's absolutely cleaned house and

914
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: made Colorado and actually a good defensive team. So I

915
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: don't think I automatically want to assume the defense is

916
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: going to be bad until we see what we got

917
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: on the field. Offensively, You're right, Alex ORGI like Michigan

918
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't allow him to throw. So are we going Tim

919
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: Tebow Dan Mullen offense, and we're gonna run a little

920
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 2: bit of you know, wildcat package org orgy cat I

921
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: don't know, or are we gonna go with Tony Calandria, which.

922
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 5: I don't know.

923
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: I mean fifty yard passes or fumbles and interceptions. I

924
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: mean it's just like, I mean, come on, Clandria, I

925
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: mean seriously, like I have to watch fourteen hours of

926
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: football today and one hundred and thirty something teams and

927
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: all it is is fifty yard passes or interceptions. Like

928
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: I can't take my eyes off when you're playing because

929
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: it's boom or bus and you have to have full attention.

930
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: So it's really tough with him. I mean, he's a

931
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: deep ball specialist. Eleven to two big time throw to

932
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: turnover worthy play on passes over twenty yards. That shows

933
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: what it is when he throws the bomb. Everything else

934
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: has been garbage. Now, you mentioned Jeed Thomas, Jay and Thomas.

935
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: He heated up at the end of last year. I

936
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: like what he did on the ground. You mentioned it

937
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: was in the go go, but twelve of his twenty

938
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: one explosive runs came in the last four games. He

939
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: really got hot at the end of the season. I

940
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: think that will continue into here. There's only twenty five

941
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: starts of experience on the offensive line.

942
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: They've got some serious work to.

943
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: Do with a lot of inexperienced transfers coming in and

944
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: defensively for Gunther who took the position after Zach Arnette

945
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: was gone. Like you said, only one of the top

946
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: nineteen tacklers is back from last year. There's transfer names

947
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: in there from big programs like LSU, Arizona State, Arizona.

948
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: There's a Band of the Kid, there's a Uga kid,

949
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: there's a Georgia kid. It's just guys that never got

950
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: any playing time. So we'll see if that works out here,

951
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: and we'll see if Dan mullen can potentially have some

952
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: sort of connection to the SEC to get some of

953
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: those guys going. The great scheduling, you know, it's a

954
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: great schedule to start figuring out all of these questions, right,

955
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: I mean, Sam Houston, Idaho State, Miami of Ohio. I

956
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: think we'll get all of our answers about orgy and calandry,

957
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: about what kind offense we're going to see. There's just

958
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: too many questions for me to make a season long

959
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: determination about what kind of bet that I want to

960
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: have on UNLV. But they do dodge San Jose State

961
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: and conference play, and that is a big bonus here

962
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: that could come into that. I don't know we're using

963
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Harris Poll again whatever that crap is to find out

964
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: who's going to the Mountain West Conference game and hosting.

965
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: So that might come back with San Jose State and

966
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: UNLV back to back buys on the schedule to start October.

967
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: That was the benefit of Idaho State being scheduled in

968
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: week three. And then that leads us into our play

969
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: because I have to have money on UNLV. Even though

970
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: they took the rebel roller, the slot machine off the field.

971
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: Ere it comes.

972
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: The Rebel roller.

973
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: Just unfailed today, a giant slot machine used in the

974
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: wake of any UNLV score or turnover forced. I went

975
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: to Mountain West media days last year and I said,

976
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 2: where is the Rebel roller.

977
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 5: I want that slot machine.

978
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: It's bigger than like a field goal posts, and whenever

979
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: UNLV scores a touchdown, they pull it right a slot

980
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: machine on the field and a college football game. So

981
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: the guy that runs the baseball told me that the

982
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: NCAA made a phone call and said, uh huh, no

983
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: way you are getting that off the field. It is

984
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: sitting in a warehouse in Allegiance Stadium, in a room

985
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: by itself, collecting dust. And I promise everybody out there,

986
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: I will find the rebel roller. I will free it

987
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: from jail. So I want the rebel roller back on

988
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: the field, all right. The play that we're gonna make

989
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: is gonna be Week one against sam Houston. Sam Houston

990
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: has to play Western Kentucky in Week zero. That is

991
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: going to be a god awful game for long Goo,

992
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: for that offense and that defense, which you know is

993
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: future horrible. They're gonna get run up and down the

994
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: field in a bunch of heat, and then they're going

995
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: to turn around and try to play host UNLV.

996
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 5: What does UNLV do in Week.

997
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: One temperature controlled Allegian Stadium against Idaho State. They will

998
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: not expose anything. They will go to Sam Houston and

999
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: they will take advantage of one of the worst defenses

1000
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: in all of college football, no matter if it's on

1001
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: the ground or through the air. I am not worried

1002
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: about Dan Mullen coaching x's and o's against Phil Longo.

1003
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: The number that I make it is fifteen and a half.

1004
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: Sixteen number out in the market right now is thirteen

1005
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: and a half. I don't think it closes thirteen and

1006
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: a half. I think UNLD beats the piss out of

1007
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: Idoh State. I think Western Kentucky runs Sam Houston up

1008
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: a flagpole, and that number sitting seventeen and a half

1009
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: by close when we get to week one UNLV minus

1010
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half week one because of what's gonna

1011
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: happen in week zero, I think we're.

1012
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: In agreement on that week one play, but the rest

1013
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: of it. I still have my my questions, my doubts

1014
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: in this offense. But I mean, really either of the quarterbacks.

1015
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: I just think last year what Hajj was able to

1016
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: do one of the most underrated quarterbacks in the entire

1017
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: country because everybody was looking at Oh, it's what Sluka did.

1018
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: That's why they started three and oh and it's like

1019
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: he came in and he was obviously a better passer

1020
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: and in some ways more dynamic as a runner because

1021
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: he was able to run all the red stuff. It

1022
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: wasn't just quarterback design runs. But in terms of what

1023
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: Hajj did, I don't think we can overstate how important

1024
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: it was. I think for a team that won double

1025
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: digit games last year, I think they're being priced closer

1026
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: to that team and just the dudes aren't there. The

1027
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: same roster does not exist. That's a fascinating case study.

1028
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: I truly don't know.

1029
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 7: I think we've got so much variation of talent and

1030
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: coaching style and different coordinators that are coming in that

1031
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 7: we really truly have a mixed bag here and a

1032
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 7: little bit of a mystery with UNLV. Now you can

1033
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 7: piece meal together all of the different talent ads that

1034
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 7: they have from FCS and from the power forward leagues

1035
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 7: that have come in at all different position groups, but

1036
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 7: it's still going to take some time to get this

1037
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 7: group to gel on the field. I think it's really

1038
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 7: advantageous for them that they move their Idaho State game

1039
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 7: to Week zero because you'll have that game to kind

1040
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 7: of work out the kinks. And then I like the

1041
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 7: play at sam Houston I think we've already talked about

1042
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 7: sam Houston State being a really descending defense. They're going

1043
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 7: to be an absolute mess, and they're not even playing

1044
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 7: games at home on their home field. They're playing an

1045
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 7: hour away in the soccer stadium, So there will be

1046
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 7: very limited home field advantage if any for sam Houston

1047
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 7: State throughout the entirety of the season. UNLV, though, Yeah,

1048
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 7: I think when you look at who they're bringing in

1049
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 7: Ken Calandria Command the offense, will they have enough of

1050
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 7: kind of a play package to try to get Alex

1051
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 7: Orgy on the field. I like Jet Thomas. He's kind

1052
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 7: of the loan holdover for explosivity from the offense from

1053
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 7: last season. There's a mixed bag at wide receiver, but

1054
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 7: there's an influx of talent from P four, so we'll

1055
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 7: see if those guys can all connect together. The offensive

1056
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 7: line is a complete overhaul, but I think that the

1057
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 7: talent is there. As long as they can gel and

1058
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 7: play cohesively, I think that they'll be just fine. And

1059
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 7: the same can be said about all three levels of

1060
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 7: the defense as well. I don't know if it's a

1061
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 7: benefit or if it's a hindrance to have an NFL

1062
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: DC and Paul Gunther who has to now work with

1063
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 7: some of the challenges of coaching college athletes as opposed

1064
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 7: to having all the control over everything that goes on

1065
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 7: in the lives of NFL players. But to be determined

1066
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 7: on that, I think this is probably going to be

1067
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 7: a very competitive group in Mountain West play. I think

1068
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 7: UNLV will be a team that'll have their hand in

1069
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 7: it when all of a sudden done because of the

1070
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 7: teams that are on their Mountain West schedule. I think

1071
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 7: Air Force provides some challenges when they go to UNLV

1072
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 7: on October eleventh, after Vegas has to go to Laradie

1073
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 7: and play that game in elevation, so that could be

1074
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 7: a little bit of a tricky spot. And then they

1075
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 7: are going to also be peaking to that road trip

1076
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 7: against Boise State. So really outside of that, I mean

1077
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 7: they should probably breeze through the next five in their

1078
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 7: schedule and probably have a very successful season. I think

1079
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 7: eight and four seems about right for this group, and

1080
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 7: less everything clicks and then they'll be stronger than that.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the San Jose State Spartans. Ken niamat

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00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: Lolo really showed that he could change his stripes. He

1098
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: went from the option offensive Navy to the spread and

1099
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: shred last year in the Bay Area. It worked. They

1100
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: went seven and six, albeit three and four in conference play.

1101
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: They lost in overtime and a thriller to South Florida

1102
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: forty one thirty nine in the Hawaii Bowl. They're plus

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00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: eight point fifty to win the conference. Here their win

1104
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: total set at seven and a half. They have nine

1105
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: starters returning five on offense, four on defense, sixty third

1106
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: overall in returning production. Is the spread and shred and

1107
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: Craig Stutsman more than Nick Nash. That's the question I'm

1108
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: going to start with you, Duck. And also, is Walker

1109
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: Eget really that much of a huge upgrade over Emmitt Brown.

1110
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: Emmitt Brown's gone out of the program. He got injured

1111
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, he's banged up, and then

1112
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: lost his starting job to Egitt last year. So the

1113
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: question is, you know, is they're ceiling high enough with

1114
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: Egitt offensively and considering the fact that they're missing Boise,

1115
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: they're missing UNLV three winnable non conference you know games

1116
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: as well.

1117
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1118
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: It just talked me through exactly how good you think

1119
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: this team could be. Because there's some buzz in the preseason.

1120
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: Some people think they will be there in the conference

1121
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: title game, and maybe if everything goes right and they

1122
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: get a little bit better defensively, maybe they could slow

1123
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 1: down Boise and throw scare at them in the conference

1124
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: championship game.

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00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 6: Do you know the way to say, nose, I've been

1126
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 6: away so long, I may go wrong and lose my way.

1127
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 6: Do you know the way to say I'm going back

1128
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Speaker 6: to some de survi.

1129
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot going on with San Jose State. Obviously,

1130
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 7: Kenniamos Lolo transition this program really well after the departure

1131
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 7: of Brett Brennan after the twenty twenty three season, and

1132
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 7: they committed to that spread and shred system, which worked

1133
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 7: really well given the talent that they had in the

1134
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 7: receiver room last year. I think the system masked a

1135
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 7: below average offensive line that really struggled to open up

1136
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 7: holes in the ground game through the majority of the campaign.

1137
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 7: Major losses at receiver with Lockhart and Nick Nash are

1138
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 7: going to require this group to at least attempt to

1139
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 7: be more balanced in twenty twenty five. I think they

1140
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 7: have three excellent options at tailback.

1141
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: A better, more reliable.

1142
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 7: Ground game should help improve middling red zone performance and

1143
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 7: keep this San Jose States Martin bunch out of third down,

1144
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 7: where they existed far too frequently last season. And the

1145
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 7: interesting thing is that the coaching staff is committed to

1146
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 7: this pivot, so I think we'll see them try to

1147
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 7: run the ball with a little bit more effectiveness. There's

1148
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 7: lots of optimism defensively, given the intestinal fortitude that the

1149
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 7: stop unit showed against the run last season, parlayed with

1150
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 7: the havoc numbers of twenty five sacks and ninety three

1151
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 7: to tens for loss secured. The front seven is going

1152
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 7: to have to show out again this year, as the

1153
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 7: losses in the secondary are glaring. Power four and Juco

1154
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 7: transfers in the secondary look to fill the void, but

1155
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 7: this secondary is just still going to take some time

1156
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 7: to gel. I think the schedule is forgiving. With three

1157
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 7: winnable games in the non conference and a Mountain West

1158
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 7: Conference slate that's free of Boise State, Colorado State, and UNLV.

1159
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 7: With the respectable showing against Texas, this San Jose State

1160
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 7: group is looking to pile up the wins and try

1161
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 7: to make their case to the College Football Playoff Committee

1162
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 7: that if they were to go eleven and one with

1163
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 7: a conference championship victory over Boise State, that that would

1164
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 7: merit the Spartans to be in the conversation. I don't

1165
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 7: know if it works out as magically as that, but

1166
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 7: I think the schedule is forgiving. If the pivot to

1167
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 7: at least attempting to be a little bit more balanced

1168
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 7: and run the football more effectively helps with red zone production,

1169
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 7: which was poor at times last season. If that can acts,

1170
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 7: I think that'll help protect a little bit defensively, because

1171
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 7: they did play. They had a lot of games last

1172
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 7: year where the defense kind of wore down late. It

1173
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 7: was just a little bit of a struggle. Yeah, I

1174
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 7: think that this group could rack up the wins. I

1175
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 7: would go over seven and a half. I think you've

1176
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 7: got obviously that Texas game in Week two that they

1177
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 7: don't have to win, but they need a good showing.

1178
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 7: And then there's two spots where they go to Wyoming

1179
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 7: and go to Utah State back to back in elevation

1180
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 7: where maybe they have some tired legs there. Outside of that,

1181
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 7: the rest of the way, I mean, Ken Deamozololo knows

1182
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 7: how to defend the option, so they always have the

1183
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 7: upper hand against air Force. They get Hawaii, Nevada, San

1184
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 7: Diego State. I think this is a pretty favorable schedule

1185
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 7: for San Jose State this season.

1186
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: When you look at the coaching talent colin in this conference,

1187
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: sometimes lost in the shuffle, I think was Neimozalolo, Like

1188
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: this guy did such a good job over almost two

1189
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: decades in Annapolis. Comes in. There was you know, speculation

1190
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: right from the jump is it going to be an

1191
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: option offense. He proves that he can changeosophically, he can

1192
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: give you know, the keys to the offense over to

1193
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: someone else and it works. I don't understand why there's

1194
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: not more buzz for this team, Like maybe it's you

1195
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: know the fact that it's a West Coast team. It's

1196
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: not a power conference team obviously, and they weren't right

1197
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: there in the thick of it last year to win

1198
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: this conference. But you seem to like them to at

1199
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: least to get there talking through the price point cutoff

1200
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: for you and what makes them, you know, so tantalizing

1201
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: to play spoiler to a team like Boise.

1202
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean I make the projective win total seven point

1203
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: six and the numbers at seven point five, So from

1204
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: a win total perspective, I don't think there's a bet there,

1205
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: but I do think there's a massive wager here to make.

1206
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: And the way that we should play this is an

1207
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: angle at the conference. But let's talk about why Ken

1208
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: was so good last year. It's because he immediately went

1209
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: hands off on the offense and said we're going to

1210
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: go with the Nick Rolovich run and shoot version of

1211
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: the spread and shred. I loved what he did at Hawaii.

1212
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: I loved we didn't watch the state. Let's go get

1213
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: Craig Stutsman and have him run it. And it was

1214
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: just played beautifully. I mean, you just get it to

1215
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: Nick name, didn't matter which.

1216
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 5: Quarterback it was.

1217
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: But if you look at Walker against numbers on the

1218
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 2: advanced seventeen to eight big time throws to turnover worthy plays.

1219
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: That tells me it wasn't all Nick Nash. I mean

1220
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: Nick Nash obviously a huge part of the offense, but

1221
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: the fact that when Walker Agat could get it down

1222
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: the field and make throws that he had to, he did.

1223
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: And I think when you.

1224
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 2: Say, well, they're not going to be his electric at

1225
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position, there's a player on this roster

1226
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: wide receiver, Dannis Scudero comes in from Sacramento State. Just

1227
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: crazy numbers and we need to start paying attention when

1228
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: players transfer from Sacramento State right Campskataboo, when they get

1229
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: at FBS, I mean, we don't know what we're getting.

1230
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 2: It could be a very high ceiling. There's a lot

1231
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: of power for wide receivers on this roster to do

1232
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: this spread and tread and I don't know particularly if

1233
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: it's going to be more of a run attack because

1234
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: they do kind of lose a lot of offensive lineman. Now,

1235
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: the good news is they if thirty two offensive line

1236
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: starts coming back and one of those is a full

1237
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: time starter at the blind side tackle position, I think

1238
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 2: that that is really good for them, whether going to

1239
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: run or pass. They can lean on him. This is

1240
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: the seventh fastest offense in the nation, which means I

1241
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: don't need you to hold your pass blocks very long

1242
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: because we want to get rid of the ball as

1243
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: fast as we possibly can. So I have a lot

1244
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: of optimism more than some people that think that the

1245
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: Nick Nash disappearance not being there is going to be

1246
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: a step back.

1247
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 5: I'm not really so sure it is. Now.

1248
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 2: Defensively, they're going to be good at all three levels.

1249
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: They are going to be a top three unit at

1250
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 2: the defensive line, linebacker, and secondary position within the Mountain

1251
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: West Conference. Middle linebacker Jordan Pollark as the captain. He

1252
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 2: brings back one hundred and fifteen tackles, twelve tackles for loss,

1253
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: just solid defense, up and down, back and forth, and

1254
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: I think that's going to give them similar numbers in

1255
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: what they had last year. Not saying they were great.

1256
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: It did defend exposive plays pretty well. They were thirtieth

1257
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: in line yards defensively, so I think we can expect

1258
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: some of the same now Duck mentioned it.

1259
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 5: The star of this team is the schedule. There's no Bois.

1260
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: It's Colorado State's schedule last year, why to Coloradego six

1261
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: and the ones They didn't play a damn person, right,

1262
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: No Boise State, no UNL. On this schedule, they hit

1263
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: the lottery. They have the easiest path to the Mountain

1264
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: West Conference game. Conference road games go into elevation, going

1265
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: to play maybe in weather well, you're getting the bottom

1266
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 2: rung of the entire conference, Wyoming, Utah State, Nevada, San

1267
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: Diego State. These are not gonna be tough conference road

1268
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 2: games whatsoever. The play is some of the books out there,

1269
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: one of the big national promut of books. You can

1270
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: pay me to stay their name has to make the

1271
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 2: championship game. San Jose State plus two twenty to make

1272
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: the championship game is not a unit play for me.

1273
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 5: It's a two unit play for me.

1274
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: At I love that because they're not going to be

1275
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: challenged in this conference schedule whatsoever.

1276
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 5: And there won't be.

1277
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Any tie breakers with UNLV and Boise State head up

1278
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: because they're not going to play.

1279
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: We turned to another team that I think could be

1280
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: an interesting candidate to get there. You just mentioned it.

1281
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: They had the cakeiest schedule in the Mountain West Conference

1282
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: last year. The Colorado State Rams they go eight and five,

1283
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: six and one conference play. They get knocked around to

1284
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: the Arizona Bowl by Miami Ohio, losing forty three seventeen.

1285
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: They are nineteen to one to win this conference. Win

1286
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: total is sitting at six and a half five returning

1287
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: starters four in offense, one on defense, ninety second returning

1288
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Speaker 1: production fifty seventh on offense. Let's start here, who are

1289
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: you Colorado State? Because year one of the Norvelo offensive

1290
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: system fifty to fifty run pass split, Year two sixty

1291
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: one percent passing, which was the fifth most pass happy

1292
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: team in the country. Then last year at flips running

1293
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: at fifty three percent of the time. Can we trust

1294
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: them to run the football again? According to offseason reports,

1295
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: no norvel wants to open it up again. And that's

1296
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: interesting to me because Braden Fowler Nicolosi did not look

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: great when facing quality secondaries last season. I'll skip over

1298
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: the Texas game, but the Colorado game and their bowl

1299
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: game against Miami Ohio qbr of twelve point four and

1300
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: forty four point six respectively. The line finished one hundredth

1301
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: in line yards returns just two starters there, So a

1302
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: mid season pivot back to the run doesn't seem like

1303
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: a simple switch to me. I'm down on the offensive ceiling.

1304
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: I think you know. The defense did make some key additions,

1305
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: starting with DC Tyson Summers. I really liked that higher.

1306
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: He was the takeaway king at Western. He created seventy

1307
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: eight takeaways in three years at Western Kentucky. They add

1308
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: in Jock's Donut Evans, who previously starred for him at

1309
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. He had fourteen tackles for loss in his

1310
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: first season with Summers. As the Hilltoppers, d C now

1311
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: mukindi Wa, Kalounjay and Evans could be one of the

1312
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: best pass rushing duos in the Mountain West Conference. Jacob

1313
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: Ellis also comes in sures up the linebacking corp coming

1314
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: in from Iowa State. The secondary though all new starters.

1315
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: This is where I put a little bit of faith

1316
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: in Summers, saying, yeah, we're gonna give up some big plays,

1317
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: but we're gonna balanced out with the turnovers. Norvell has

1318
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: improved his win total from three to five to eight

1319
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: and then a six and one finishing conference play last season.

1320
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: Nothing crazy in terms of road travel, even in the

1321
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: non conference. In terms of the mileage, they're putting in

1322
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: in the spots. I like them to get to seven wins.

1323
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: You know, it could be eight if they take down

1324
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: Wazoo at home in late September, but I think that's

1325
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: the absolute for this team. I'm not interested in nineteen

1326
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: to one for them to win the conference. I need

1327
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: at least thirty to one to consider that. Let me

1328
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: go first to you, Colin in terms of Norvel, someone

1329
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: we've talked at nauseum about, you know, talking about the

1330
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: boys from Fort Collins. The issue is what do they

1331
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: want to be Do they have the personnel to do that?

1332
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: Tory Horton's not there anymore for foul or Nicolosi and

1333
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: I just didn't see the progression last year. So I

1334
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of faith in the quarterback. That

1335
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: makes it difficult to get fired up for a G

1336
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: five team.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is no other head coach in all of

1338
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 2: my media day travels that sets time aside and gives

1339
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: me thirty minutes to talk to me about everything under

1340
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: the sun about their team and shows me pictures of

1341
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 2: their golf trip. I love Jay Norvel, and I will

1342
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: say I don't think I've taken an under on this

1343
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: team since he took over. That comes to an end,

1344
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: Coach Norvel and I apologize, but I make the number

1345
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 2: five and a half as well below what the market is,

1346
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: and there's really a lot of reasons for that.

1347
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: Now.

1348
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Speaker 2: I know the offense went run heavy last year, but

1349
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: that was injury related. Right when Tory Horton gets hurt,

1350
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: a lot of your wide receivers get hurt. They really

1351
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: had nothing else to do but run the and they

1352
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: did it great. But now we're going to switch back

1353
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: to the other side with Braden Fowler Nickelosi, and when

1354
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 2: you have him, you need dynamic receivers. I'm not sure

1355
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: Armani Winfield is the guy at the white opposition one

1356
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: point four yards per route run and if you don't

1357
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: understand what that metric is, two is where you're considered explosive.

1358
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: One point four you're just not getting separation. You're not

1359
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: doing much after you get the ball. That has to improve.

1360
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: Now from the running back perspective, if they do decide

1361
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: to run the ball, I'm not really impressed with what

1362
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: we have coming in there. Running back Justin Marshall was

1363
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: the go to guy last year, but he was surpassed

1364
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Speaker 2: by Tulsa transfer Lloyd Devant during the spring game. I mean,

1365
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: Marshall's numbers were okay, three point three yards after first

1366
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: contact with a lot of zone read last year, but

1367
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Speaker 2: a Vant comes in just one explosive run against an

1368
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: FBS defense. Last year, Lloyd de Vant played eleven games

1369
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: against FBS defenses and created one explosive run for Tulsa,

1370
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: and he just made ten missed miss tackles. He forced

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Speaker 2: ten miss tackles in eleven games. So I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't like what the offense has whatsoever. I don't think

1373
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: they're explosive with the wide opposition. They don't really have

1374
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: what they need to have at the running back position,

1375
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: and Braden Fowler Nicolosi needs explosive targets to get it to.

1376
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: Two of the top eleven tacklers on defense are back.

1377
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: There's plenty of position battles are going to be figured

1378
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: out here in fall camp as we come up. There's

1379
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: senior transfers in there. I've mentioned that already on this podcast,

1380
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: like when your Defense and your Depth Chart our seniors

1381
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: that have never had big playing time at other programs

1382
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: and they've transferred in in this case for Colorado State

1383
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 2: from Iowa State. And SMU means they can never get

1384
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: on the field. Whether it's from a talent perspective, but

1385
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: if you're blocked for three or four years, even you've

1386
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: got pandemic years in your resume and you haven't been

1387
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 2: on the field, that doesn't mean you're high quality player.

1388
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: No disrespect, but I don't see a lot coming out

1389
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: of this team.

1390
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 5: To schedule completely flips tougher than twenty twenty four.

1391
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: You're going to boys, you have back to back travel

1392
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: weeks before hosting Air Force in the finale, No thank you.

1393
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: I think the triple option is going to eat you

1394
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: up at the end of the year. Under six and

1395
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: a half, I know it's juicy. Minus one fifty five. Say,

1396
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: if you can find it all to under six, I'd

1397
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: take that too.

1398
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: What do you think, Doug? Do you have an official play?

1399
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Speaker 7: I don't have an official play, but I have official concerns.

1400
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 7: I'm really concerned about just the ambiguity of the direction

1401
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 7: of this offense and what they want to define for

1402
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 7: the trajectory of twenty twenty five. And I think that

1403
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 7: they've just got so much that needs to be ironed out.

1404
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 7: Fowler and Nickelosi, there is something to be said about

1405
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 7: the offensive line coming together, and they have really improved

1406
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 7: in their pass blocking from year to year. You have

1407
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 7: a fifty nine sacks a couple of years ago down

1408
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 7: to I think fourteen last season, so it was really

1409
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 7: an improvement in their pass blocking. But they also didn't

1410
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 7: pass the ball as much, and they were much more

1411
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 7: balanced and even dare I say a little run heavy

1412
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 7: at the end of last season. I think there's just

1413
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 7: too many land mines on the schedule for me to

1414
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 7: really get excited about this Colorado State team really racking

1415
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 7: up the wins. I think that we'll even possibly see

1416
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 7: what the output is from the offensive unit after their

1417
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 7: bye week, after they play Northern Colorado. I think they'll

1418
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 7: have some sort of plan in place, but it may

1419
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 7: not look very good against Washington, and then they'll go

1420
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 7: out and found a really bad Big Sky opponent in

1421
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 7: Northern Colorado. Then they'll get the bye week, but then

1422
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 7: UTSA and Wazoo are going to certainly be no gimmes.

1423
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 7: Then you've got to go to San Diego State. I

1424
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 7: love that spot at the end of the season where

1425
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 7: you're hosting Air Force after back to backs, including Boise State.

1426
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 7: It just seems like this schedule is not going to

1427
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 7: be conducive. I kind of thought last season that this

1428
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 7: Colorado State team was really fortuitous and beating up against

1429
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 7: the bottom four teams in Mountain West play, and I

1430
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 7: kind of had a bad taste left in my mouth

1431
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 7: after the performance we saw in the Arizona Bowl against

1432
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 7: Miami of Ohio. I think there's just too much for

1433
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 7: me in question to really get excited about that. And

1434
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 7: Colin had mentioned it. You could see with what they

1435
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 7: did in the transfer portal they're attempting. But is this

1436
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 7: a fool's gold situation? Are they grasping at straws? Are

1437
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 7: they grasping at players that really don't have a lot

1438
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 7: of productivity anywhere? And so adds to the mixed bag.

1439
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 7: I think maybe it's six and six and they're trying

1440
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 7: just to get to a bowl game in their final

1441
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 7: season in the Mountain West. But I'm not exceedingly excited

1442
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 7: about this Colorado State team at all.

1443
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: Let's see if you guys are buyers on this next one.

1444
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: Fresno State the Bulldog six and seven last season, four

1445
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: and three in conference play. They lost in Northern Illinois

1446
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: and the Potato Bowl by eight from my career, it

1447
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: was French rise twelve to one to win the conference.

1448
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: Win total sitting at six and a half seven stars,

1449
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: returning four in offense, three on defense, one hundred and

1450
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: sixteenth though, and returning production outside the top one hundred

1451
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. They bring in matt

1452
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Enz he's a winner playing simple and he took my

1453
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: preferred route for a coach, jumping up from FCS. He

1454
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: had a stop as a coordinator at the FBS level first,

1455
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: when he was coordinating USC's defense last fall. Dock, you're

1456
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: the FCS expert, so talk me through what you expect

1457
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: from him as he goes more to a ground and

1458
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: pound run centric offense.

1459
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 7: Well, first thing, I think it's a home run higher

1460
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 7: for Fresno State long term, and I think that he

1461
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 7: made an exquisite job with his coordinators. Josh Davis out

1462
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 7: of the University of South Dakota will be fantastic with

1463
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 7: the offense. This system tries to run. And then defensive

1464
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 7: coordinator Nick Benedetto comes over from Northern Illinois. We'll get

1465
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 7: to that in just a second, but Fresno State offensively

1466
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 7: is going to be exceedingly slow pace. They're going to

1467
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 7: use a lot of twelve personnel, which is common in

1468
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 7: the game of football. Running back two tight ends, they're

1469
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 7: gonna use thirteen personnel. They're gonna have a lot of

1470
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 7: big bodies out there to try to run the football,

1471
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Speaker 7: and they're gonna run it, and they're gonna run it,

1472
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 7: and they're gonna run it some more. You'll see EJ.

1473
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 7: Warner with some play action off of that to the

1474
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 7: tight end game. But this is all going to be

1475
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 7: about mucking these games up, truncating them, slowing them down,

1476
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 7: possessing the football, and controlling the line of scrimmage on

1477
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 7: both sides. I think offensively, they definitely have some pieces,

1478
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 7: I like Gilliam coming back for Fresno State in the

1479
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 7: running back room along with Bryce and Donaldson. They definitely

1480
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 7: made an attempt to try to pluck some talented wide

1481
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 7: receivers in the portal and so we'll kind of see

1482
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 7: how that shakes up. But if you look at the

1483
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 7: tight end room, they've got four tight ends that are

1484
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 7: big bodied, athletic tight ends that are going to be

1485
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 7: matchup nightmares. I think in Mountain West play for Fresno State,

1486
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 7: kind of their secret weapon will be what they have

1487
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 7: in the tight end room. We'll see how the blended

1488
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 7: offensive line ends up shaking out. I think, you know,

1489
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 7: if the system can connect and they can really grasp

1490
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 7: the keys at the line of scrimmage pre snap, I

1491
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 7: think it'll.

1492
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 5: Look a little better.

1493
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 7: And you'll know right away after these first couple of

1494
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 7: games for Fresno State, including when they go to Kansas

1495
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 7: and when they host Georgia Southern, that this is going

1496
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 7: to be a significantly different offensive platoon than what we've

1497
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 7: seen from Fresno State in the past, really getting back

1498
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 7: to a Fresno State power football identity. Defensively, Nick Benedetto

1499
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 7: comes in and I thought he did really good things

1500
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 7: at Northern Illinois if you just look at some of

1501
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 7: the low hanging fruit metrics. I mean, they were twenty

1502
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 7: seven percent on third down defense last year, which was

1503
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 7: tops in the MAAC. And they really bowed up well

1504
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 7: in the red zone twenty or excuse me, thirty six

1505
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,959
Speaker 7: red zone attempts defensively, only sixteen touchdowns, twelve field goals

1506
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 7: and ten empty possessions, So I mean it was really,

1507
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 7: really they were good when they needed to be on

1508
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 7: the money downs and in the red zone. They have

1509
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 7: an in flux of talent defensively that I think they'll

1510
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 7: be able to scheme it up and do actually pretty

1511
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 7: well in this conference. I didn't go over the win total,

1512
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 7: but if this really connects and if the power football

1513
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 7: game is humming, and if the bodies are elite, that

1514
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 7: I think I think we're going to see some good

1515
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 7: football out of Fresno State this year. I'm pretty high

1516
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 7: on this group. That trip to Boise will be tough.

1517
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 7: The trip to Colorado State, yeah, we'll see. I think

1518
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 7: it's kind of a bad matchup for CSU. They don't

1519
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 7: have to go to Laradice, they get Wyoming at home,

1520
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 7: they get Utah State in the back end of the schedule.

1521
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 7: I think this is a team that can certainly go

1522
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 7: bowling and could surprise some people in Mountain West play

1523
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 7: this year. So I think the coordinator hires and the

1524
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 7: head coaching hires are a plus for Fresno State long term,

1525
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 7: and I think they'll be better than expected this year.

1526
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: One of the biggest portal pieces of news for Fresno,

1527
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: by the way, keeping Alzillian Hamilton inside the program, because

1528
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: he entered the portal but then he came back. I

1529
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: don't think you can overstate how important that was because

1530
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: he's by far their best cover corner and they're going

1531
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: to face some quality passing attacks Georgia, Southern Hawaii, Boise,

1532
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: San Jose State, Like they're gonna need him to be

1533
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: able to lock down a top guy so they can

1534
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: be a little bit more multiple in the back end

1535
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: and what they're bringing blitzwise. I can't get to seven

1536
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: wins with confidence, but I am confident in the tempo

1537
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: change and playing a lot of unders and a defense

1538
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: that has a high upside with a play color that

1539
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: I really like. Colin any thoughts overall on the team

1540
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: or EJ. Warner, who we haven't even mentioned, because the

1541
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: system doesn't put as much pressure on the quarterback. You

1542
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: could go way back and look at his Temple days

1543
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: and say that he had a high upside. You look

1544
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: at you know, flaming out last season. I think people

1545
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: are a little bit too harsh on the kid. But

1546
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about him being QB one for

1547
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:37,520
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs.

1548
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: Well, the change the thirteen personnel always helped Iowa State quarterbacks,

1549
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: so keep that in mind, and I think there are

1550
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: things to say about EJ. Warner because there are positives

1551
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: in his numbers, even though it was a very vanilla

1552
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: not the season I expected out of Rice. By the way,

1553
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: thank you, like as my biggest win total six and

1554
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: a half. They got to six wins, of course because

1555
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: they've played with their food for the beginning of the season.

1556
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 5: Anyways, that was a lot of EJ. Warner.

1557
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: So first let's start off here. I think matt Ens

1558
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 2: is a perfect hire. Like Duck said, we're gonna get

1559
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: that North Dakota State offense going. They're gonna get a

1560
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: thousand yards in returning experience in eleven TDS running back

1561
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: Elijah Gilliam and Bryce and Donaldson, which I think is

1562
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: absolutely going to power this offense, and that thirteen person

1563
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: out they're gonna have tight ends shifting all over the

1564
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: place and laying blocks on people.

1565
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 1: EJ.

1566
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: Warner, though, that I want to talk about is when

1567
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: he does throw. Every single season he has played, his

1568
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: turnover worthy play rate has been cut from four point

1569
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 2: seven percent down to three point five percent. He is

1570
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: getting better in the mistakes category, and that is expected

1571
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: with age, and it's not going the other direction. Even

1572
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: though the numbers at Rice weren't as great as what

1573
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: we thought, now there is no go to wide receiver here.

1574
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: I think that's going to take time and it could

1575
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: be a tight end. So we'll figure out what they

1576
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: got going offensively. The problem is, this isn't a schedule

1577
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 2: where you really have a lot of time to figure

1578
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: out what it is you're gonna do on offense. You know,

1579
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: Fresno is expected to have the best secondary in the

1580
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: Mountain West Conference, and you mentioned it well, they have

1581
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 2: two havoc makers at the edge positions.

1582
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 5: That's always going to help. With the nazillion Hamilton.

1583
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: Thirteen PBUs by himself last year that is seventh in

1584
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: the nation individually.

1585
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 5: He is a shutdown.

1586
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: Corner, which is why I love Fresno taking on Georgia

1587
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 2: Southern in Week one on August thirtieth. That would absolutely

1588
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 2: be on the radar for a play just for that,

1589
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: because just because of what jac French and Josso wants

1590
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: to do. Non easy schedule for this offense. Like I said,

1591
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you have Kansas and Oregon State here too

1592
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 2: the first three games. That's going to be tough. I

1593
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: mean road trips to both of those places, and you

1594
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: know Kansas is going to return to pounding the ball

1595
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: in Jalen Daniel. That's going to be a little bit

1596
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: tough for the front seven of this PRESNO team. Georgia Southern,

1597
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 2: like I mentioned, a sneaky game you want to get into,

1598
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: especially with what they want to do in the air

1599
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: and Fresno. What Duck did not mention about this schedule.

1600
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: The most gratuitous part about this schedule is that they

1601
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: have three Mountain West Conference home games on a bye

1602
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 2: week Nevada, San Diego State, Wyoming from October to November fifteenth.

1603
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: They have three Mountain Way Conference games at home off

1604
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: of bye week.

1605
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 5: That is a huge advantage. What's the problem.

1606
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can win a road game

1607
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: right San Jose State on the road, EH, Boise EH,

1608
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: Colorado State and Elevation EH Island. You never know right

1609
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: you show up and crazy shit happens down there. Just

1610
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: depends on the on the Noacoa Alumni Association who they've.

1611
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 5: Paid off that night.

1612
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: So I think the play for me is going to

1613
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: be over six and a half minus one thirty. I

1614
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: do make this seven exactly on the dot, but I

1615
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: have not played it yet because it's so close, Like

1616
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: if it's a half win total away from my projection

1617
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 2: usually just kind of table and I'll think about it later.

1618
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: But if you go over on six and a half

1619
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 2: with Fresno State, your hedge game absolutely is September twentieth

1620
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: on the island. That game should be within range of

1621
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: money line ish to get away from this.

1622
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: Yes, by these wings, you will be known.

1623
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 6: You will be recognized throughout the world as one of

1624
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 6: America's Knights of the Sky and Air Force Planet win.

1625
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 4: Silver wings to a golden ger see.

1626
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: Your nearest Air Force recruiter. Now, all right, let's close

1627
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: out the first half of this Mountain West preview with

1628
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: the Air Force Falcons five and seven last season three

1629
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: and four in conference play fourteen to one to win

1630
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: the Mountain West. This fall, win total sitting at five

1631
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: and a half right there at bowiligibility nine stars, returning

1632
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: six on offense, three on defense, seventy second in returning production,

1633
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: twenty seventh on offense. Though last season showed the value

1634
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: of having a veteran coach and having players that couldn't

1635
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: just walk off the campus and you get on their

1636
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: phones and hit the transfer portal. That's one of the

1637
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: few benefits of being a service academy. At one and

1638
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: seven start usually triggers an abandoned ship metaphor wait, that's

1639
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: not right with the service academy triggers a desire to

1640
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: eject from the cockpit. That's better. Troy Calvin got them

1641
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: playing really good football. Leg eight point win at home

1642
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: against Fresno, a twenty eight point blowout over Oregon State,

1643
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: a three point road win at Nevada, and eleven point

1644
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 1: road win at San Diego State to close things out.

1645
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: And now Dylan Carson, the hammer at that fullback position,

1646
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: is back with a line blocking for him that returns

1647
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: three full time starters and two more with starting experience.

1648
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: Kate Harris returns as that versatile weapon. He's out wide

1649
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: on the perimeter, catchup passes. He's taken sweeps and reverses

1650
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 1: in the run game as well. Josh Johnson is set

1651
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: to start a quarterback. He's light on in game experience,

1652
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 1: but at least has been in the system running this

1653
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: with Scout Team's second team for three years. He has

1654
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: the athleticism. Will see if he pushes all the right

1655
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: buttons puts it all together. Bucknellen UTAs State critically are

1656
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: defenses that they face in the first two weeks. That

1657
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: could be a little extended preseason for Johnson in this

1658
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: offensive unit full stop, though I trust Brian Norr at

1659
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: DC great defenses in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,

1660
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: and even with being hung out to dry at the

1661
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: beginning of the season last year in the offense absolutely stunk,

1662
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: still finished top fifty and scoring twenty seventh against the pass,

1663
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: really good at limiting explosives. The entire trench is back

1664
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: all seniors, so I expect them to be fundamentally sound

1665
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: up front. Linebackers weren't full time starters, but of that

1666
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 1: group the three players nine starts spread across them for

1667
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: last year, so they're not totally green. This is where

1668
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: coaching matters the most. Though secondary is green, can he

1669
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: protect them from a play calling perspective. San Jose State

1670
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 1: is the only passing attack that really scares me on

1671
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: the back half of the schedule, and when I look

1672
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: at the schedule overall, I got chalk up losses to Boise,

1673
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: at UNLV and at San Jose State. Put those aside

1674
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: for a second. I think a split against Navy and

1675
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: Army is doable. In my opinion, I'm picking them to

1676
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: return to a Bowl six or seven wins are gonna

1677
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: go over on the win total because four of these

1678
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: games could be absolute cakewalks. Can they steal a couple?

1679
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: We know the staff knows how to do it, and

1680
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: I just have faith in a team that did not

1681
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 1: quit last year. And in the modern college football, particularly

1682
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: the G five level, teams just throw their hands up

1683
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: in the air and they quit. The team, you know,

1684
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: loses the locker room. Guys are looking for the portal.

1685
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: That's not where you're gonna get with this Air Force team.

1686
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: If Johnson is even a B minus quarterback, I think

1687
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: this team goes bowling. Colin will shoot it to you first.

1688
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Service Academy getting it

1689
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: all flying in the right direction this year?

1690
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the hottest team we were betting down

1691
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: the stretch. I mean I think stucky and I just

1692
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: turned flipped on the microphones and said, betting Air Force

1693
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 2: this week? Right, I mean, hottest team, covered four straight,

1694
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: covered five straight at the end of the season. Now

1695
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: they get four of their top five rushers back. You

1696
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: know you've already mentioned like some of the power that

1697
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: they have coming back with Dylan Carson no answer to

1698
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: quarterback coming back.

1699
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 5: Now, in the spring game.

1700
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: They did take their full back Kemper Hodges and they

1701
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: stuck him in at quarterback. Now, I'm kind of a

1702
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,719
Speaker 2: fan of this, Like if you have a backup full

1703
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: back and you could use your full back to play quarterback.

1704
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we're thumping here, right, We're gonna be thumping

1705
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: some heads. So we'll see what they do at the

1706
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: quarterback position. We'll se who's running the triple. But it's

1707
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: always gonna be efficient. It's always going to catch a

1708
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 2: lot of these teams off guard, especially ones that have

1709
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 2: terrible front sevens. The D the interior lignement. The strength

1710
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: of the D is on the interior alignment with Peyton

1711
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 2: Droyik and Aiden Swartz. But you know, new linebackers, new corners,

1712
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 2: that's gonna be limitations against teams that can.

1713
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 5: Throw on them, you know.

1714
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: So I think that there's gonna be a couple of

1715
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,799
Speaker 2: teams in conference play that's really gonna give them some troubles.

1716
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there are teams that are

1717
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to take advantage of that. Hawaii

1718
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: both have defensive front sevens to clog the triple. Hawaii's

1719
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: we haven't got there yet. But like their best aspect

1720
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 2: is the fact of their defensive line in their middle linebacker,

1721
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: So I get a little pause in that boise we

1722
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 2: know is an elite defense, so that is something where

1723
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to defend the triple. But

1724
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: both of them come to Colorado Springs and that is

1725
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: a hell of an elevation poll for Hawaii.

1726
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,560
Speaker 5: There are pitfalls on this schedule. Now I have it

1727
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 5: at six and a half.

1728
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: We're sitting at a really juice five and a half,

1729
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: which was really six. But going to Las Vegas after

1730
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 2: the Navy game, Eh, no, thanks, I mean I don't.

1731
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean you go to Vegas like you're sunk the

1732
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: second you get there. But you're going there after your

1733
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: rivalry game after Navy. So a weird Yukon game in

1734
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: November after going to San Jose, Like, how much do

1735
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: you care about that game? So I do like the over.

1736
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't play it at the five and a half

1737
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 2: minus one seventy. It should be about sixty seventy since

1738
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: less if you can find a six out there.

1739
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 5: But your hedge game, absolutely one.

1740
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 2: Hundred percent is going to come against Yukon on the

1741
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: on November fifteenth because that game, I think I power

1742
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: rated about minus one and a half in favor of

1743
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: you con which means you can take a money line

1744
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: on that side and get out of that win total

1745
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: if you need to, if you need to, because these

1746
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: last two games are winners, right, New Mexico winner, Colorado State.

1747
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: That is such a horrible spot for Colorado State. When

1748
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: you look at their schedule. Air Force going there will

1749
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 2: chew them apart on the front seven. So and you're right,

1750
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: they're highly motivated and they'll never give up. And if

1751
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 2: they're not going to a bowl like it'll be, that'll

1752
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: win that game anyways, because they'll be motivated to be

1753
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: the last game of the season. So I like the

1754
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: over here. I wouldn't pay minus one seven. You try

1755
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: to look for a six at about pick them numbers

1756
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: and keep it eye. In that quarterback situation, Calbary's I

1757
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 2: mean a full back round in quarterback, I kind of

1758
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: like that.

1759
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: What do you think, Duck, Do you put more stock

1760
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: in the offensive line having a ton of starts coming

1761
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: back or you troubled by the quarterback situation.

1762
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 5: Both.

1763
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 7: I don't think I saw any more extreme dichotomy in

1764
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 7: any one team last season and what I saw from

1765
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 7: air Force the first eight games of the schedule compared

1766
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 7: to the last four. They really tipped their hand against

1767
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 7: FCS Merrimack when they couldn't get push on the offensive line,

1768
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 7: they couldn't run for explosive plays. Against Marymack, they only scored.

1769
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 5: Twenty one points.

1770
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 7: And then the next seven games of the schedule, it

1771
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 7: just looked terrible. The offensive line was sluggish, there was

1772
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 7: no attitude, there was no intensity that we're used to

1773
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 7: seeing from air Force football, and it showed the win

1774
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 7: column as they lost seven in a row and the

1775
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 7: team just looked dead in the water, empathetic, and I

1776
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 7: would love to know what Troy Calhoun said to that

1777
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 7: offensive line in between their Army loss and when they

1778
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 7: played Fresno State, because it was like there was completely

1779
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 7: different talent along the offensive line. The blocks were sharp,

1780
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 7: they were pissed off, they were playing with attitude, and

1781
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 7: that continued significantly.

1782
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 5: The next four weeks.

1783
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 7: It was just stunning to see the difference that last

1784
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 7: four weeks. If you go back and put on the tape,

1785
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 7: it's almost like it was completely new players along the

1786
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 7: offensive line. So it was very, very stunning. I think

1787
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 7: that that momentum will continue into this season, and I

1788
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 7: look to play air Force early as long as they

1789
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 7: can shake out the quarterback situation and they can get

1790
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 7: someone in there that can command that triple option offense

1791
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 7: and get that humming like we've come to know in

1792
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 7: love with air Force football. I think this team is

1793
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 7: a play on against the number against Bucknell. I think

1794
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 7: they'll destroy Utah State, catching enough points they could be

1795
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 7: a play against Boise. Hosting Hawaii, I think they're definitely

1796
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 7: a play. Hawaii will be on their sixth game in

1797
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 7: a row. I think when they host Wyoming that'll be

1798
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 7: a play. Wyoming will have the battle for the Boot

1799
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 7: with Colorado State up next, possibly the last battle for

1800
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 7: the boot for some time, because Colorado State's changing conferences.

1801
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 7: We don't know if that'll continue. I think the New

1802
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 7: Mexico spot is a play on for air Force. I

1803
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 7: absolutely have the Yukon spot circled in red ink as

1804
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 7: a fade spot. That's a strange out of conference trip.

1805
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean a ton to what air Force wants

1806
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 7: to accomplish this season, and it's hard for me to

1807
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 7: see them showing up in what will be Senior Day

1808
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 7: for Yukon, so I think that's a fade spot. But otherwise,

1809
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 7: I think this Air Force team is going to look

1810
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 7: a lot like the last four games the last season

1811
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 7: as opposed to the first seven or eight games that

1812
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 7: we saw this Falcon team. This is a team that

1813
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 7: I think has positive trajectory. I have not played their

1814
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 7: win total over, but I definitely think six and six

1815
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 7: is the floor.

1816
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: Just like an Air Force drive. It's been a long

1817
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: slog here through the preview, but we are going to

1818
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of a break. We're gonna

1819
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,200
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1820
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,880
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01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,360
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1822
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: for Duck and Colin Wilson and also Stucky at the

1823
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Speaker 1: top discussing the two teams from the PAC two on

1824
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,240
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