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Speaker 1: Gunner's got to help him out, make some plays for

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Speaker 1: him down there. And uh, now he did a really

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Speaker 1: nice job. He's he's trending in the right direction for sure.

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Speaker 1: How like, what are you looking for for your gunners

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Speaker 1: want them to do differently catch the ball? You know?

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Speaker 1: But now there there's a there's some little small nuances,

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Speaker 1: little stuff like that, just making sure we're doing our

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Speaker 1: so they can make the plays. The moralizing for a

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Speaker 1: punter for the whole unitch. Right, everything is executed and

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Speaker 1: you know, like six inches of ball acrosses there and

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Speaker 1: not a fun feeling. You know. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: want to be, you know. It frustrates you. Um, but

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Speaker 1: bad thing, you know, but again, you gotta the fundamentals

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Speaker 1: to down. And so you don't want the ball to

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Speaker 1: And conversely, if it hits at the five and you're

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Speaker 1: not rocket scide, It's pretty simple. You know. It's having

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Speaker 1: him help it all this week when you're going and

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Speaker 1: it's a lefty punter. Oh, absolutely, they've been you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously they've been sitting ever since training camp. So and

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Speaker 1: Jamie and Trusts are very similar and how they hit

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Speaker 1: so it should be it shouldn't be anything new because

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Speaker 1: of power every day. What makes trust so effective? He

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Speaker 1: is wow? Uh, he's a ball striker, Like he's one

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Speaker 1: and then that ball could easily be inside the tin,

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Speaker 1: it's out of five quickly. Curious, why do you think

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Speaker 1: It's it's not that like that's a hard skill, Like

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Speaker 1: a lot of people like the punt for power now

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Speaker 1: Not not not too bad. It was it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 1: I had some good, some good, fond memories of O'Dell

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Speaker 1: you know versus old Miss you know, and to shootout

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Speaker 1: return to punt for about sixty seventy yards for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Joey has done a really good job of you know,

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Speaker 1: And Joey's leg is super super live like, he has

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Speaker 1: think he's more of a developmental part. They all got chances,

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Speaker 1: You've gotta be ready to go. You innes you want

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Speaker 1: you watched the trends we your year with the return game,

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Speaker 1: a little bit on unexpectations here on kickoff and we

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Speaker 1: lack of return in another area and field position and

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Speaker 1: everything else happening. You know, the the expectation level never

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Speaker 1: changes like we always want to perform at a high level. UM. Now,

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Speaker 1: that week. But if you know you're playing a team

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Speaker 1: Are you just attecting in that situation? If you identify

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Speaker 1: just you have to stay a status quo as far

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