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Speaker 1: There are No Girls on the Internet. As a production

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Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio and Unboss Creative, I'm bridget tout

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Speaker 1: and this is there are No Girls on the Internet.

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Speaker 1: So today is another week where everything feels heavy and

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Speaker 1: awful and just too much. So in response, I am

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Speaker 1: trying at a new thing that we are tentatively calling

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Speaker 1: something on the Internet that doesn't suck, where I talk

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Speaker 1: about something related to or on the Internet that doesn't

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Speaker 1: suck or once to distract myself from how depressing the

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Speaker 1: new cycle has been. And today that thing is celebrating Klanni.

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Speaker 1: So this is one of those amazing times where something

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Speaker 1: I love from music, our culture intersects with some larger

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Speaker 1: trend happening on the Internet. Klanni is a musician, an icon,

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Speaker 1: a songwriter, and now we can add a master of

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Speaker 1: combating Internet grifters to that list of accomplishments because they

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Speaker 1: went viral for shutting down right being internet quasi celebrity

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Speaker 1: Christian Walker in a way that was just chef's kiss.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. So here's what went down.

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Speaker 1: Kalani was in their car at a Starbucks drive through

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Speaker 1: in California, one that they say they go to regularly.

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Speaker 1: Now Colonni is a person of color and identifies as queer.

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Speaker 1: And they said that this particular Starbucks, it's decked out

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Speaker 1: in pride and trans flags and happens to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of young queer people of color working there. While

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Speaker 1: they're in the drive through, Klani spots none other than

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Speaker 1: Christian Walker in the drive through in his car behind them.

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Speaker 1: Now you don't know who Christian Walker is, honestly, consider

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Speaker 1: yourself kind of lucky. He's a black, twenty two year old.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll call him a right wing internet personality.

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Speaker 1: He led a Gaze for Trump rally back in twenty

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Speaker 1: in California. Even though technically he's not gay, he says

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Speaker 1: that he is attracted to men. He is a man,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't identify as gay, which whatever, you can

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Speaker 1: kind of think of him kind of like Candice Owens

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Speaker 1: times a thousand. He will just say whatever awful, hateful

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Speaker 1: thing gets in an audience. Being obnoxious and over the

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Speaker 1: top is the entire point with him. He also loves Starbucks.

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Speaker 1: Going to Starbucks is his thing. If you don't know

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Speaker 1: Christian Walker, you probably know his dad, Herschel Walker, who

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Speaker 1: is currently running for Senate in Georgia Herschel. Walker himself

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Speaker 1: is a real piece of work. Like, for instance, here's

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Speaker 1: what he had to say about how air quality works

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Speaker 1: to a bunch of thunders just last week. You know,

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Speaker 1: control the air. I'll go there to China. So with

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Speaker 1: China there got to move, so it moves over to

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Speaker 1: and now. So Christian Walker is kind of a right

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Speaker 1: wing internet influencer of sorts, but I guess he could

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Speaker 1: read more accurately be described as a right wing grifter.

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Speaker 1: His entire stick is going on social media drumming up

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Speaker 1: top Instagram and TikTok videos about the latest perceived threat

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Speaker 1: or grievance posed by the blue haired radical left. He

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Speaker 1: has amassed hundreds of thousands of social media followers doing this,

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Speaker 1: and I actually bet it's pretty effective because we already

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Speaker 1: know that social media platforms love outrageous content and definitely

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Speaker 1: prioritize content that is outrageous or inflammatory or over the top,

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Speaker 1: which he is. Christian Walker is also a podcaster. His

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Speaker 1: podcast is called Uncancellable. Now. I've never actually listened to it,

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Speaker 1: but here are a few of the recent episode titles

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Speaker 1: called quote they were innocent unlike George Floyd, one about

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Speaker 1: you can't slaughter your kid, and another on Elon Musk's

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Speaker 1: You're a racist. Also, I should just say all of

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Speaker 1: the titles to the podcast episodes are in all caps,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not totally sure why I'm including that information.

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Speaker 1: It just feels kind of relevant to note, like even

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Speaker 1: his podcast titled or just constantly yelling grievances at the listener.

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Speaker 1: So this is someone who makes money, makes a living

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Speaker 1: off of really engineering stunts to have a big outrageous

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Speaker 1: social media listeners to his podcast, boost his platform, rints,

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Speaker 1: washed repeat. It's actually a pretty good scam, I bet,

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Speaker 1: And he's the kind of right wing scammer that I

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Speaker 1: feel like we're seeing more and more of these days,

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Speaker 1: people who just live to exploit and inflame tensions and

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Speaker 1: existing divisions for their own personal gain. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if it makes us more divided or more angry or

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Speaker 1: He'll do it. People Christian Walker make money doing this.

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Speaker 1: This is their job. They're able to spin the attention

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Speaker 1: Christian have been able to gamify social media platforms, just

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Speaker 1: That is until Klanni saw Christian Walker getting ready to

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Speaker 1: do his thing in the Starbucks drive through and foiled

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Speaker 1: his plans. Let's say a quick break out her back, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so Klanni says. They notice Christian Walker behind them at

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Speaker 1: the drive through, about to take a video of the

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Speaker 1: Starbucks barista on his phone. Killani noted that this paricular

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Speaker 1: trans flags for a Pride last month. I see behind

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Speaker 1: me that kid, Christian Walker visibly losing his ship in

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Speaker 1: the car via my two mirrors screen work. I'm not

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Speaker 1: screen recording, but doing this on his screen to zoom

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Speaker 1: in and film the Starbucks workers and film all the

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Speaker 1: flags that are in the Starbucks windows. This Starbucks is

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Speaker 1: covered in gay flags, trans flags like American remixed gay flags.

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Speaker 1: I see him losing his ship the whole time. Mind you,

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Speaker 1: it's going slow as ship because there's so many people

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Speaker 1: in the line. He proceeds to get to the little

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Speaker 1: order box thing, and it's clearly harassing whoever is behind

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Speaker 1: the order box thing, and like going back to his phone,

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Speaker 1: like and and I'm like, oh, I feel like this

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Speaker 1: man is gonna come up to the window and harass

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Speaker 1: all these workers. Now, I go to this Starbucks often,

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Speaker 1: and I also know and can bysibly see that everybody

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Speaker 1: that works there is like a color and a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. I can't assume these things but seemed queer

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Speaker 1: to me. Notably, shin Walker himself celebrated Pride Month by

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Speaker 1: posting a picture of himself giving the finger to some

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Speaker 1: with the caption stop expecting people to respect you if

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Speaker 1: you shut down traffic to walk around the streets barely

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Speaker 1: clothed now. Colonne says that they are familiar with Christian

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Speaker 1: Walker's whole thing and saw him getting ready to take

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Speaker 1: this video of the burst them and all the Pride flags,

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Speaker 1: so they decided to warn the staff to let them

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Speaker 1: know that, hey, this is a person who is a

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Speaker 1: known provocateur who engineers little stunts for social media. They

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Speaker 1: also called him an asshole. So it gets to the

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Speaker 1: one doow and I'm like, Yo, just letting you'll know

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Speaker 1: that guy behind me that's not like Republican Trump supporter

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Speaker 1: kid who is has a habit of like harassing you know,

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Speaker 1: this community, even though he's a part of it. Don't

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Speaker 1: fucking blows my mind. I'm like, watch out because he's

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Speaker 1: to record. They're like, yeah, I know that kid. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he's a fucking asshole, like because I've just watched

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Speaker 1: him being an asshole for the last ten minutes. Right.

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Speaker 1: So Christian must have heard this exchange because he got

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Speaker 1: and had this verbal interaction with Colonne. Ma'am, ma'am, you

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Speaker 1: don't need to tell Barista's that I'm an asshole for

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Speaker 1: because I have an opinion. Get your drink and go

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Speaker 1: and go away. I I can have an opinion like

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Speaker 1: not me. You want to tell Garissa's I'm an asshole,

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Speaker 1: Well guess what you're You're the asshole. You are an asshole,

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Speaker 1: Get your drink and go. Okay, So this is what

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Speaker 1: I love about how all this went down. Colony says

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Speaker 1: that they happened to be in the middle of a

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Speaker 1: phone therapy session when this all started, and the session

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Speaker 1: on other people. They had kind of an aha moment

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Speaker 1: just having this AHA moment with my therapist and I'm

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Speaker 1: going I know what you want to do. You want

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Speaker 1: people like me, etcetera, etcetera. So Klanni did not take

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Speaker 1: the bait. They denied Christians ability to have this big

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Speaker 1: a really great workable template for how we should be

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Speaker 1: dealing with Internet grifters like Christian Walker. But we don't

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Speaker 1: give them the big reaction that they want, all the

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Speaker 1: on top. Christian tweeted out a video of his altercation

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Speaker 1: with Klanni, calling them quote a mediocre singer that everyone

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Speaker 1: because in Christian Walker wasn't saying that Kalani was a

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Speaker 1: mediocre singer. In fact, he tweeted, I love Klanni so much,

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Speaker 1: in a dark world. Let's bring the light to fight

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