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Speaker 1: any other phenomenal many episode of My Mama Told Me

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Speaker 1: This comes from a listener named Joy, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: you sent me, Joy. But if you want to send

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Speaker 1: reviewing the podcast right now on Apple Podcasts. I'd like

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of each and every one of you, except you, Joy.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini yourselves, many yourselves, motherfucking many yourselves. Motherfucking mini yourselves,

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Speaker 1: many episodes, motherfucking mini yourselves,