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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fence muzzle and I look you cozy.

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Speaker 2: Hello Renee, Hello Cablin.

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Speaker 3: We're here at Wimbledon.

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Speaker 2: We are, We're in a beautiful Wimbledon and the weather's amazing.

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Speaker 3: The weather's amazing. We had a sit down on the

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Speaker 3: roof of the media Center at the All England Lawn

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Speaker 3: Tennis Club with the incredible Kim Cleisters.

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Speaker 4: The amazing I just I love her to death.

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Speaker 2: Kim Cleisters, what a personality. Four time Grandslame champion, actually

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Speaker 2: six because she won two doubles Grand Slams as well.

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Speaker 4: And you played against her in doubles, I did, thankfully.

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Speaker 2: I never lost to her, which I've never ever led.

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Speaker 4: Her lived down of course, why would you you guys?

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Speaker 3: Our interview was so long, Kim was so generous, So

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Speaker 3: we've decided to do something special and we're going to

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Speaker 3: chop it in two. Yeah, it's like a five setter exactly.

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Speaker 3: So the first half of this match, if you will,

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Speaker 3: is going to include some incredible stories. Kim an athlete who.

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Speaker 2: Really would have been a great athlete in whatever sports

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Speaker 2: she chose, whether it was winter sports, summer sports. What

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Speaker 2: would she have done if she hadn't played tennis.

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Speaker 3: And then we had a moment where I cried, did

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Speaker 3: you cread just me?

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Speaker 2: No, because I'm also doing television over here, and I

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Speaker 2: And I also knew some of the story and I

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Speaker 2: wanted everybody to know this story and also Kim a

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Speaker 3: And then lastly, my favorite part is she's basically running

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Speaker 3: a farm in her house in Belgium and Svetlana Kuznetzeva let.

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Speaker 4: Her pigs out. Do you really want to say that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what happened. You'll have to tune in

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Speaker 3: for more, So you just shwine Part one of our

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Speaker 3: Kim Kloser's interview. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 4: Almost one and a half.

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Speaker 5: One and a half.

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Speaker 4: My husband is in the States with the dream and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I send them pictures. I'm like reading my book.

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Speaker 4: You send him a picture of you reading reading my book,

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Speaker 4: like this is the life.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, honey, no, not even I'm not even sorry,

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Speaker 2: no no, because he's ten months out of the year,

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Speaker 2: he's with his basketball and I'm like driving and doing everything.

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Speaker 4: For the kids. And then I'm like, okay, he's like

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Speaker 4: in joy lads, I'm like, thank you? What being out numbered?

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Speaker 4: How is that? Because going from two to three, I've

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Speaker 4: heard of data's ten. So she's she's, yes, she she

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Speaker 4: can do a lot to buy herself. But it was hard,

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Speaker 4: you know. Still the little one takes naps and the

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Speaker 4: other ones have to kind of. And your middle one

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Speaker 4: is going to be in elementary school, so kindergarten, and.

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Speaker 3: Is that a thing I'm asking You're you're talking to

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Speaker 3: someone who's going through New York City public preschool.

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Speaker 4: It's a lot different where I live, a very small.

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Speaker 2: In Belgium, Belgium, basically getting whatever she wants.

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Speaker 6: No, not no, no, really no, we just do the

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Speaker 4: I love it because you guys were in Jersey for

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Speaker 4: a while, right when I was still playing and Jada

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Speaker 4: then yeah, yeah, so we and Brian started working for

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Speaker 4: basketball and he coaches the first division basketball team and

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Speaker 2: Store and now she gets to come to Wimbledon and

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Speaker 2: play with me and hold me up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. That's the legends. Prep doubles. What kind

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Speaker 4: of have you talked tactics? Who's playing. What's every day?

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Speaker 4: Every day? You're already mind? We talk every day, Oh, tactics.

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Speaker 2: We don't talk at all until we see each other

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Speaker 4: All we do is talk. We don't ever talk about tennis.

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Speaker 4: And we tease each other, of course constantly. Usually teaches

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Speaker 4: me about how bad my groundstrokes are. That's not at all.

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Speaker 4: I don't tease about that kind of stuff because she

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Speaker 4: She told me. She told me last week that she

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Speaker 2: What happened was that I was in Barcelona and I

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Speaker 2: and she's playing with Barbara Schette and excuse me.

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Speaker 4: She's playing with yes, Barbara, and I'm playing.

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Speaker 2: With Kim and so Kanchie and I sent pictures to

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Speaker 2: Kim and to Bubbsy, our partners, and they made a

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Speaker 2: We want to make sure that they were practicing. I was,

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Speaker 2: but she practices all the time. But Kim was told

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Speaker 4: It didn't work.

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Speaker 2: But I told Buzzy that I'd worked on Conchie's bollies

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Speaker 4: I saw counties in the French rop legends. She looked

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Speaker 4: pretty good. Well, they're better now because I worked on

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Speaker 4: I don't need to work on yours. You always had

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Speaker 4: great bollies. I was just allergic to the net. I

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Speaker 6: I just felt more comfortable with my groundstrokes to hit

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Speaker 2: So I want to know, okay, so let's go back,

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Speaker 2: like I want to know, Like, okay, so prior to

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Speaker 4: After having a child and how different it makes you.

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Speaker 4: What difference did it make for you. I didn't think

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Speaker 4: I was done with tender's. I had enough of the

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Speaker 6: Got married and my father got sick, so that was

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Speaker 6: I got invited to play here at Wimbledon with Steph.

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Speaker 6: I played with Tim Henman Againstephane Graf and on your agacy.

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Speaker 4: So I got this leather like an official, cool invitation

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Speaker 6: You had no idea this was coming, no, And I

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Speaker 4: Sure, so I was like.

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Speaker 6: Tennis to me has always been I called tennis at

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Speaker 6: Still, and the hunger and the passion grew stronger and stronger,

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Speaker 6: And in the beginning I felt really guilty, really guilty

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Speaker 4: We have this glass back door and she would stay.

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Speaker 6: I didn't Who was Jada home with Brian No, because

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Speaker 4: But I didn't have any work.

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Speaker 2: So, but how did like the perception of you playing

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Speaker 6: When I was feeling upset, you know, when when my

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Speaker 3: So that's what you were doing back there, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you were centering you were meditating.

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Speaker 4: So maybe I can I ask you about commentating. Okay,

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Speaker 4: sure I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: It was good.

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Speaker 4: Is it new? Is it it's new? I never thought

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Speaker 3: I remember somebody said to my wife, who carried our child,

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Speaker 4: You'll figure it out. I mean even for me, it

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Speaker 4: I believe it was the first one you want out

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Speaker 6: Yes, I we talked about it with my dad when

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Speaker 4: And everybody it's different.

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Speaker 4: Hard, but I was like okay, like he's here. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And it made me feel like because I always called

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Speaker 6: I felt like I was playing great tenors and I

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Speaker 6: When especially also when I was younger, if my opponents

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Speaker 4: I got a noise. Yeah, it was like a two

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Speaker 6: I so she kind of told me that she got disqualified,

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Speaker 6: and then I walked through my chair and yeah, just confused.

439
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's just very confusing.

440
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,120
Speaker 4: And then obviously when you walk off court, you're tried

441
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 4: to hear from people what happens. I'm sure everyone had

442
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 4: a lot of thoughts about Yeah, everybody, yeah, I mean everybody.

443
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 4: And then I had to go into press. I tried

444
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 4: to do press pretty quickly and yeah, yeah, I mean

445
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 4: it was you know, everybody wanted to know my situation

446
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 4: and what I heard. And it sounds like you didn't

447
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 4: hear anything. No, I mean, I'm on the other side

448
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 4: of the court. It's loud, people are booing. You know

449
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 4: what Serena was doing, what the linesman did?

450
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 5: You know?

451
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 4: Both like there was different reactions and yeah, so let

452
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 4: me ask you a.

453
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 3: Question, just because you know, for me, I would have

454
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 3: felt maybe a little sad that I didn't get to

455
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 3: have the completion of the.

456
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 4: Match that occurred to you. Yeah, yeah, I mean I

457
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 4: think also like through my parents, I've learned to not

458
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 4: like wonder about the ifs.

459
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 6: You know, like like you can always keep what if

460
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 6: this or what if that? And then like it's that

461
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 6: was the situation that I was in, and I tried

462
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 6: to just deal with it as good as I could.

463
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 4: And I also didn't want to get distracted because then

464
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 4: I had to play, you know, my next round, my final,

465
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 4: and I didn't want to get or to lose my

466
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: rhythm because of what happens.

467
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because that story is so famous, especially

468
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 3: to us in America, and the fact that it didn't

469
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: really involve you that much at all, even though you

470
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: were there.

471
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 4: And I felt like it didn't involve me.

472
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 6: I mean I had I had nothing to do with

473
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 6: the situation, just but but I was playing against Serena.

474
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 4: So it also strikes me as you guys are actually

475
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 4: decently friendly. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's not like I

476
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 4: don't think I know her well.

477
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 6: I mean probably one of the longer conversations I had

478
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 6: with her was was actually when I retired, she actually

479
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 6: came over and like gave me a hug, and I

480
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 6: felt like it was sincere and and so.

481
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I was it was nice.

482
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Speaker 6: I think I got to see a Serena that I

483
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 6: hadn't seen before.

484
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: How do you now relate to some of the other

485
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: players now that you're making this you know, you're now

486
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: in the career of journalists.

487
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I what I like when I talk

488
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 6: to journalists who I liked, who I enjoyed talking to,

489
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 6: is they made me think it wasn't the same question

490
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 6: over and over again. They actually gave me something where

491
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 6: I was like, hmm, interesting, something I could do something

492
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 6: with as well, you know, to try to figure figure

493
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Speaker 6: something out.

494
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: And and so I mean, because we can't.

495
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 6: I mean even now, like you get the same question

496
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 6: over and over again, and and I get it, you know,

497
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 6: but then once in a while it's there's journalists.

498
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: Where you know, yeah they there, they can go further deeper,

499
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 4: and those are the ones. And I think even now,

500
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: like when I talk to a player, like I actually

501
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: want to talk. I don't want to ask them the

502
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: normal questions I would like to know. I don't know

503
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: how they think, how they you know, to go deeper

504
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 4: than the than the surfaced information that we see on court.

505
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: Well, it's amazing when you talk to somebody and you

506
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: get the sense that they're actually really listening to you

507
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: because you feel seen and heard, and then all of

508
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: a sudden, you know you actually want to engage.

509
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: Okay, So I have two sort of related questions. How

510
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: many ink how many pieces of make do you have? Me?

511
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 4: There we go, I see one, I see one. This

512
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: is the bee from Brian on my t Yeah. Yeah,

513
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: So Jada is very proud that she's the only kid

514
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,479
Speaker 4: on my child little it's a little sad for your

515
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 4: other kids. I doubt that, Jada. So maybe mommy should

516
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 4: get rid of your name. If you know you're like

517
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: you can just stack them up, you know. Yeah, I know.

518
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 4: When I first got these, I was like, I want

519
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Speaker 4: more and.

520
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Speaker 6: I have I have a drawing of because my father's

521
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 6: name was Leo and.

522
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 4: When he played football, you know, he was like a lion,

523
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 4: like he.

524
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 6: Was a defender, and so I have like a lion's

525
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 6: head laying around and he always used to buy me

526
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 6: roses when I yeah, so I had Yeah, I have ideas,

527
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 6: but I don't know.

528
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Speaker 4: I'm I feel like I'm done with it. I don't

529
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 4: know for some reason, but I'm worried that if I

530
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: do want again. I've had moments with friends.

531
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 6: I'm like spontaneous, yeah, crazy, whatever you want to go.

532
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 4: I do yeah, out of things like when I get it,

533
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, let's do this. Like I'm friend started

534
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: taking tattoo studio. Once I started getting them, I couldn't stop.

535
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 4: I know, I had that very away.

536
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 6: But like my friends and I went to Australia last

537
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 6: year and we were like, let's find a tattoo shop

538
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 6: and get something, you know, because we had such a

539
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 6: good time and we got like really closed and we

540
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 6: were able to talk like we are like about you know,

541
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 6: issues like with my dad and and like you know

542
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 6: them and their life stuff that they were struggling when

543
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 6: we felt like we were really like connecting on a

544
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 6: different level than being in Belgium and and so we

545
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 6: were like, we need to find something to remind us.

546
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 4: And we wanted to get a tatoo. And I actually

547
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: looked up at that too show and they were all

548
00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 4: closed on Google or wherever I you are, soap in

549
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, I got two tattoo shops. You can pick one.

550
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 4: We're not getting master tattoos, but you've got lots of options. Okay,

551
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: here's my thing. Maybe I'll get one with you and

552
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 4: we will do it together. You have got one, yes,

553
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: I do on my toe. Okay.

554
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: The second thing I want to tell you, and this

555
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: is my wife is not a tennis fan, but she's

556
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: a sporting fan.

557
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 4: You are her favorite tennis player. True story, because she

558
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 4: told me. And then when I met Renee, she told

559
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: me the same thing.

560
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 3: Kim Class is the most athletic tennis player who's ever

561
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: played the game.

562
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 4: Now here's my question. There's no question.

563
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: There's no question that Kim I would say, look at

564
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: you looking back like tell me, oh, I'm curious.

565
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 4: Good question.

566
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: Kim Is the top three athletes I've ever seen by tennis.

567
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so here's what women tennis, flies, the Winter Olympics.

568
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 4: What sport do you want to go?

569
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: Medal life, speed skating, speed skating, speed skating.

570
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's close enough to Holland.

571
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean that, you know the Dutch when every bloody

572
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: speaking Belgium, Belgium not go to space getting in talk.

573
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: About football, But that's not it. Let's talk about normal

574
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 4: and winter sports. The thing is, I started skiing when

575
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: I read tired it is. I love it, but I'm

576
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: so scared. That's a crazy thing.

577
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 6: I'm not scared of a lot of things, but for

578
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 6: some reason on skis, I've just I am scared.

579
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: Is it mortality or is it more just like you're

580
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: literally scared of injuring yourself. No, I'm I'm scared because

581
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I don't have control of what I'm

582
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 4: doing yet. Yeah. So are you bad at skiing? I mean, yes,

583
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: you're not bad at actually, But the thing is I

584
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 4: wanted I want to do it well, and I look

585
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: at YouTube videos and I try to do yeah, and

586
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: then I I took like three or four skiing lessons

587
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: and I went up the mountain and yeah, just really cramped.

588
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 4: I feel really cramped.

589
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 6: On skis and my feet hurt, my sh ins hurt,

590
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 6: and then I'm like, oh no, like I don't there's

591
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 6: no enjoyment on skis.

592
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: I love being in the mountains. I loved taking the

593
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: ski lift up and you know you like the attendant

594
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: stuff yep, the place. Yeah, yeah, the opresky. I only

595
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: did up rescue for the first time this winter. That's

596
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: the best part. Yeah, where did you do it? I

597
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 4: don't like to feel like tired in the morning. No,

598
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: after you hangover like that part, I'm like, it's not

599
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: worth it. No, No, but skiing, skiing is I'm.

600
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: From Montreal, so it's my favorite sport by a lot.

601
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 3: So I'm really impressed when people become skiers because a

602
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: lot of time played on ski because they will. It

603
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: was like in my contract to you were not scale, So.

604
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: How'd you start?

605
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 6: And when I stopped playing, so I was like I

606
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 6: wanted I want to ski, and my husband and I

607
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 6: went to Switzerland dos yeah the first time and literally

608
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 6: rented skis.

609
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: I had never taken a lesson. He's like, I got this,

610
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: you know. I skied when I was twelve, I'm like, okay,

611
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: I trusted yeah, blindly Yeah. And I was like, okay,

612
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 4: you know, I see these little kids three four years

613
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: old going up the skill it's in front of me.

614
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, if they can do it, I mean, how

615
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: hard can it be? And then I see the you know,

616
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 4: I'm on top of the mountain trying to go down

617
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: these kids without even thinking go whoop. Yeah, and I

618
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: was like, I can't do it. Yeah, I can't do it.

619
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: I think if you get once you get the fear

620
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: in your head, it's actually quite hard.

621
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: It's harder to learn as an adult because when I

622
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: was a kid, it was just you're this far up

623
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: the ground with a giant helmet.

624
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 4: But I felt better at the end of that trip.

625
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 4: I felt better. But then there's another year that goes

626
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: by before you ski again.

627
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 6: And we have actually an indoor ski slope where I

628
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 6: am where we live, yeah, fifteen minutes from our house.

629
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: So our kids, like Jada and Jack the are our

630
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 6: first two kids. They've taken ski lessons. And it made

631
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 6: me so proud when Jada skied down by herself. I'm

632
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 6: like sitting at the window, Oh my god, i'meel so proud.

633
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 6: You know that she's able to do this just because

634
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 6: I don't. Yeah, I can't do it.

635
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: I was very proud when my son skied for the

636
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: first time. He was too yeah, and you know again,

637
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: he didn't have any fear and he just you know, pizza.

638
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: But I felt so proud like he was you knowing it,

639
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: he was doing it and he was leaning forward. You

640
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: really have to. That's why. That's where I'm scared. And

641
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: I cramped, like I'm so tight on my legs and

642
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean it's a good workout, you know, for your legs,

643
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: but I feel like, come lunchtime, I'm like, okay, I'm

644
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: like really like there's too much acid in my legs.

645
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: I need to I don't know, go to the spars

646
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: or the ice pas. Okay, So are you gonna get

647
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: back on the slap sir? Sounds like no, I this

648
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: isn't every year. Like when we come back, I think him,

649
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: don't do it anymore because yeah, there's no I don't

650
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: enjoy it. But then you know, there's always friends who

651
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: you know. In Belgium were close to a lot of

652
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: like great skiing areas and they're like, oh, you want

653
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: to come for a ski trip and they convince me,

654
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: and then I go and then and then you don't

655
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: like it. Okay, so you can be I like moments,

656
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: but you can be a speed skater. Maybe Bob's lay.

657
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that would be so fun. Let me,

658
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 4: I will do bobs. You would not have fear of that. No,

659
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: you don't have fair No, I don't think so speed.

660
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: I've never done it. Maybe they're, oh, you did it

661
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: on like the concrete where you like around roller skates.

662
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: That's fucking scary. Yeah, I'm sure this is Jesus. Yeah,

663
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: but I think that I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's why I asked you that I want to

665
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Speaker 6: be that the one who what's the name, the one

666
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 6: at the back who pushes.

667
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Speaker 4: To Yeah yeah, the car. Yeah, they get the sprinters.

668
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, so I guess it's the engine. You'd

669
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Speaker 4: be the engine.

670
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Speaker 3: I feel like I asked you about winter sports because

671
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Speaker 3: I feel like it would take you out of your

672
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: comfort zone because like, you know, not true, Yeah, play soccer.

673
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Speaker 4: What else are you teaching your kids to? Jada plays basketball.

674
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: My husband was a basketball player. He's now a coach.

675
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: He's a very good one. Yeah. Yeah, And and does

676
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: she like it. She loves basketball, she likes she thinks

677
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: tannas is the most boring sport in the world.

678
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 6: She asked me one how long did you play. I'm like,

679
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 6: you know, I was five six years old when I started.

680
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 6: And she's like, oh my god, mom, it's like the

681
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: most boring sport in the world.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how long. Why you know how you

683
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: could do it for that long?

684
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

685
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 6: It was funny, like because I have an academy in

686
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 6: Belgium and she was, you know, with a coach and

687
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 6: she had a couple of like lessons with like a

688
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 6: girlfriend of hers that she was in school with, and

689
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 6: she wouldn't even she wasn't even listening to the coach

690
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: like she had like she was holding the racket, was

691
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 6: like leaning on her shoulder, looking at like birds that

692
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: were like in the trees, and while the coach is

693
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: explaining like the next thing that they had to do,

694
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: and I'm sitting on the side and I'm like, Jada,

695
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 6: please like pay attention to the coach at least do that,

696
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 6: And she didn't care, and she was sighing, and I'm

697
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 6: like okay, And then you know, the next day she

698
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 6: had her basketball practice and she's diving to the ball,

699
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 6: comes off like sweating red cheeks, like okay, obviously you

700
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 6: know it's she's no point.

701
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Speaker 3: In like pushing or what is your husband pumped or

702
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 3: is it the kind of thing where he he's pumped?

703
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I mean he's away a lot, like with

704
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: his job, but we try to.

705
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 6: Go to you know, most of his games and and

706
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 6: you know, we in find you know a lot of

707
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 6: the players over and and yeah, Jada loves it.

708
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: She loves like there in the States right now. She yeah,

709
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 4: she is so yeah, yeah, I mean not that you

710
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 4: can't be no, no, yeah, she is.

711
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

712
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 4: And Jack Jack is for he turns five at the

713
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Speaker 4: end of September.

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Speaker 6: He is so, I don't know, he's the type of

715
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 6: kid I have to keep away from the iPad and

716
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 6: he gets very hooked on that stuff. And he's very

717
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 6: good at imitations, yes, like he'll say things and you know,

718
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 6: I mean, my husband speaks, you know, with an American accent,

719
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 6: but for some reason, our son speaks with an English

720
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Speaker 6: like great British, like a British accent.

721
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Speaker 4: Because he listens to Papa Peg and he's like, Daddy,

722
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: can I have your phone? Like I'm like, so, yeah,

723
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Speaker 4: we have like with him. Jada is an outside kid.

724
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Speaker 5: She likes to go.

725
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Speaker 4: You know, we have a lot of animals at home.

726
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: And actually a very funny story. We have pigs. Pigs.

727
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Speaker 6: We have pigs I got from my coach for our

728
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 6: thirtieth For my thirtieth birthday, I got two pigs.

729
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Speaker 4: As a president.

730
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Speaker 6: He drove his van up to my backyard, opened the

731
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Speaker 6: sliding door and out like like you know, like two

732
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 6: pigs like walk out and and when as a little girl,

733
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Speaker 6: I wanted to have pigs, like he remembered, and when

734
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Speaker 6: I turned thirty, he was like, yeah, it was.

735
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Speaker 4: I was excited to see them, but I was like,

736
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 4: oh my god, like my garden is not ready for peaces.

737
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: So you know, we had to kind of like put

738
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: some fences in and and and a little ship for them.

739
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 4: So you have pigs. I have pigs. And three of

740
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: them names specs get which means bacon and Dutch. We

741
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: don't need them, but we don't need them. So but

742
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: kuzin Atsiva was actually over. She had she was seeing

743
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: a doctor for her wrist surgery in Belgium and.

744
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 6: Was came over to the Academy because the guy that

745
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 6: I worked with for my rehab for my risk is

746
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 6: a part of my academy, and so she she came

747
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 6: over to see him reach out and you know, I

748
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 6: still had to go to the house, but my husband

749
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 6: was playing a game that night, and she was leaving

750
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Speaker 6: the next day, and you know, she loves.

751
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: Basketball, and so I was like, yeah, come with me,

752
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: you know, and so she we. I took her with

753
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Speaker 4: us to the game. It's not an hour and a

754
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: half drive. Like.

755
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 6: The game is like in the in the second quarter

756
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 6: and I get a phone call and it's like, kim

757
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: by someone you really I think one of.

758
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: Your pigs is out on the street. I'm like what,

759
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, how is that possible? He goes, yeah, how

760
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 4: the fence was open, and I look cozy. She left.

761
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: She left it like the game like, but it wasn't locked,

762
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: so I couldn't get back in time. Obviously. To you know,

763
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: the pigs are smart.

764
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 6: They're very smart and very clean, very clean. You would

765
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 6: think big is like a dirty animal, would think that

766
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: they're not. I mean, they stink, you know, but they

767
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 6: go to the bathroom in the same corner. They keep

768
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 6: their like their ship very clean. Yeah, so but they're

769
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 6: very nice.

770
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Speaker 4: And your neighbors have to capture the pig, like do

771
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: they Yeah, that one escape is a very big pig.

772
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 6: It's a hairy pig as well. It's called the cooney

773
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 6: Cooney pig, which is like a New Zealand kind of breed.

774
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: So you have Bacon, you have a hairy pig. What's

775
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: the harry pigs name? That's Bacon. Yeah.

776
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 6: And then we have Luna Jada. Jada names all our animals.

777
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 6: We have random names.

778
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: Luna and the third one, I don't know what she

779
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: calls it. Actually, how many animals do you have? We

780
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: have I don't live on a farm, but it kind

781
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: of looks like a petting zoom in our backyard.

782
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: We have now, I mean we had four ducks, but

783
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: we had just a couple of days before I came

784
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 6: over here, six little ducklings came on, so we have them.

785
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, great, And then we have four chickens and a

786
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 4: dog and that's it. Now we have one dog.

787
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 6: At one point we had five dogs, which was a

788
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 6: little bit too much because it was like a factory

789
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 6: in the morning, trying to feed everybody.

790
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

791
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: Wow, and you have like a house that's a normal

792
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: sized house with a giant yard. I have a big yard.

793
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 6: I live in a normal street, you know, with the

794
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 6: houses next to me and on both sides. But I

795
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 6: have a big backyard because it was like a piece

796
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 6: of land from farmers. But in our area, they started putting.

797
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: These communities like a plant yeah, development, and.

798
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 6: I kind of didn't feel like having them facing my backyard,

799
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 6: like right against it. So this is I think when

800
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 6: I was eighteen, so a long time ago, and my

801
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 6: dad tried to talk with some of the people who

802
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 6: owned that piece and we ended.

803
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 4: Up buying it. So that's why I have a bigger

804
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: piece of property in my backyard. That's smart.

805
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but let me just count three kids, three pigs,

806
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: one dog, seven ducks.

807
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: I mean now that's four or six, no, twelve dogs.

808
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 5: Or so many?

809
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: Do you have like people helping you take care of

810
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: all these animals? No, you should see me in the morning.

811
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Speaker 4: It's like I wake up and you know, in between

812
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: feeding and.

813
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 6: The kids and getting breakfast ready for them and like

814
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: ready for school, I run off and you know whatever,

815
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 6: if it's raining, put on my raincoat.

816
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: And did you think having growing up you would have

817
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: a farm. I've always loved animals that my grandparents had.

818
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of ducks and a lot of rabbits,

819
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: and ducks do, but rabbits. I always had rabbits, And

820
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: I know I've heard rabbits are very mean. I've heard

821
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 4: they're mean.

822
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 8: They can like like whatever and attack each other. I

823
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 8: haven't seen that happen, but yeah, I'm sure I always

824
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 8: love it. They love it, they love having Yeah, that's

825
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 8: so cool.

826
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So again that was part one of our Kim

828
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: Cloisters interview. But remember it was so long and so

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00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 3: good that we've got part two coming up very soon.

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Speaker 4: So stay tanned.

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Speaker 5: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co

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Speaker 5: host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally

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Speaker 5: renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to tim Or, Jerry Taylor

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Speaker 5: Dalton and the team at Acast.

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Speaker 4: Dick Dick Thick