1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Daybreak Europe podcast, available every morning 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Wednesday, the 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: twenty second of May in London. I'm Stephen Carroll and 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm Lizzie Burden. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Coming up today. UK inflation calls less than expected, with 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: sticky services costs damaging hopes for rapid rate cuts. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: One man dies and dozens of people remain in hospital 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: in Thailand following severe turbulence on a flight from London 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: to Singapore. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Plus Wall Street bets on blowout quarterly results from AI 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: Leader in video. Later today, we'll dig into what to 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: expect next. 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: UK inflation has fallen to two point three percent. Economists 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: surveyed by Bloomberg had expected headline annual CPI to slow 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: to two point one percent in April, down from three 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: point two percent in March. 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: The core CPI number rising also higher than or rather 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: coming in higher than expected a slow down from March. 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Three point nine percent is the figure for course CPI 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: in the UK, and in the immediate aftermath of those 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: figures we im published, we have seen the pound strengthen 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: on cable up three tenths of one percent to one 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: twenty seven forty two against the dollar. I. Meanwhile, the 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: European Center Bank president Christine Laguard has entered there's a 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: strong likelihood of an interest rate cut at its next 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: meeting in two weeks time. Here's what she told the 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Irish broadcaster RTE. 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: No predicament, no prescription, no commitment, but it is a 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: case that if the data that we receive reinforce the 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: confidence level that we have that we will deliver two 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: percent inflation in the medium term, which is our objective, 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: our mission, our duty, then there is a strong likelihood. 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Christine la Guard speaking, there are at eas primetime program. 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: ECB governing council members are starting to differ on the 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: rate path beyond the first cut. Bundusbank president Joachim Nagel 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: said yesterday uncertainty is still high and they should not 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: cut rates hastily. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: Fed officials are saying that the US needs to think 40 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: about interest rates staying higher for longer. The comments from 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Lorettamester and Susan Collins reinforced the gap opening up between 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: central banks in the US and in Europe. Mester, who 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: heads up the Cleveland Fed, said months. More data are needed. 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 4: It's too soon to tell what payath inflations on, so 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: we just need to collect more information on that. You know, 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: last year people were worried about, oh, the FEN maybe 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: getting too restrictive and therefore it's going to dampen the economy. 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: Those risk one down. At the same time the risk 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: to one inflation, I think are tolded to the upside 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: and remain so. And so that's the balance thing that 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: we have to do as we sit policy going forward. 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: Mester's comments calling for more time and data have been 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: echoed in recent days by other FOMC members. Swaps markets 54 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: are now pricing in around forty bases points of rate 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: cuts by the end of the year, and bond traders 56 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: digest the Central banks caution. 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: One passenger has died after a Singapore Airlines aircraft suffered 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: a sudden high altitude turbulence on the a flight from London. 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: A seventy three year old man has expected himself heard 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: a heart attack. Several others have been seriously injured. Paul Williams, 61 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: a professor of atmospheric science, says turbulence like this is unusual. 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: If you're flying through severe turbulence, gravity can't pin you 63 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 5: to your seat. Deploying can be moving down more rapidly 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 5: than gravity can keep you pin to your seat, So 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 5: if you're not seatbelted, you will start to lift up, 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: and sadly that is what appears to have happened, So 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 5: it's quite rare in the atmosphere. 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: Paul Williams speaking there. The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand 69 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: is investigating the cause of the incident. Singapore Airlines has 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: a robust safety record, consistently ranking among the world's safest. 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: A British man charged with spying for a foreign intelligence 72 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: service from Hong Kong has died for what's been described 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: as unexplained reasons. Thirty seven year old Matthew Trickett was 74 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: found dead in a park in Maidenhead, west of London 75 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: on Sunday, just days before. He'd been charged under the 76 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: National Security Act last week and was on bail pending 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: a court hearing. Police are appealing for witnesses to contact them. 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Stricter financial regulation in the United States as prompting Barclays 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: to consider a return to the office for some employees. 80 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Some managers have even started warning their staff to prepare 81 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: for a return to the daily commute. Bloomberg's Teawa at 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: a Bio has the details. 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 6: The pandemic brought with it widespread changes to work in culture, 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 6: and for many in the city that meant an end 85 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 6: to the five day office workweek, But new rules from 86 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 6: the financial industry regulatory Authority could be set to disrupt 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 6: working culture once again. Barclays, who declined to comment on 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 6: the news, is among firms considering whether to mandate office 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 6: attendance after US brokerage regulators announced new requirements for keeping 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: tabs on workers. Bloomberg understands that the guidelines, due to 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 6: take effect in a matter of weeks, may only affect 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 6: operations overseen by the regulator. Amongst the incoming regulation will 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 6: be a mandate for brokerages to list some home offices 94 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 6: in their records, which will become subject to inspection. Many 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 6: firms still plan to allow remote working on a part 96 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 6: time basis in London to you add a buyer Bloomberg Radio. 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: Now in a moment, we'll dig more detail into that 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: latest UK inflation data. But another story that caught my 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: eye this morning is why Monaco might have to pay 100 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: more to keep hosting its iconic Grand Prix Our colleagues 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Thomas Buckley and Hannah Elliott have been writing about this 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: ahead of this weekend's race. Now, Monico pays around twenty 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: million dollars every year to Liberty Media, which owns Formula One, 104 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: to host the race. That's actually the lowest of any 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: race on the calendar. Saudi Arabian Bahrain, for example, pay 106 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: more than fifty million dollars. Now, Monico's contract with F 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: one expires next year, and Bloomberg has learned that Liberty 108 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: wants the price to increase. The spokesperson for Formula one 109 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: declined to comment on the current talks, but said the 110 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: company's not considering pulling out of Monaco, and the Automobile 111 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Club of Monicco, which organizes the race, didn't respond to 112 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: our requests for comment. But organizers speaking have been unwilling 113 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: to change the business model all that much because, according 114 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: to one person speaking to Bloomberg, they're confident the history 115 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: and prestige of the race, which has been nearly one 116 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: hundred years old. Now on the circuit of Monaco Trump's 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: financial considerations. A lot of Formula One drivers also live 118 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: in Monaco, although Lewis Hamilton has complained that it's the 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: most boring race he's ever participated in, so an interesting 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: one to watch there and more to read on Bloomberg 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: dot com and on the terminal. Well, let's turn back 122 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: to our lead story this morning and the latest inflation 123 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: data out here in the UK cooling but not by 124 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: as much as had been expected. Lizzie, We're lucky to 125 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: have you with us, with your UK correspondent hat On 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: this morning. What should we be paying attention to in 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: the figures that we've just had out. 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: So you've got beats on the headline, core and services levels. 129 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: Even if inflation is moving in the right direction, it's 130 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: still sticky here in the UK. So at the headline level, 131 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: two point three percent is what it's come in as 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: for April year on year. The expectation was two point 133 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: one percent. It's come down from three point two two 134 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: percent in just in the big Bloomberger survey only one 135 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: bank expected this. It was the highest forecast submitted. Then 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: if you go under the bonnet to the core level, 137 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: you've got a three point nine reading. The survey was 138 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: three point six, even though it's come down from four 139 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: point two percent. And services what the Bank of England 140 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: is really focused on is a lot higher than expected 141 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 2: five point nine percent, and that might be a real 142 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: worry for thread Needle Street. It is barely a budget 143 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: from the six percent that it was in March. So 144 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: before this print there was a lot of talk about 145 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: how it was all going to confirm that we'll have 146 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: a June cut from the Bank of England. But if 147 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: you look at the reaction in Sterling, three tenths of 148 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: percent higher one dollar twenty seven is where we're at. 149 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: That's a hawkish reading. And so we'll wait for the 150 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: Bank of England bets to open at seven thirty am. 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: But before this number, this set of numbers, it was 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: a coin toss on the June cut. It'll be interesting 153 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: to see whether traders have paired their bets at all. 154 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting to consider the detail of this as 155 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: well as across the street from us here in tred 156 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: Needle Street, they will be combing very carefully through this too. 157 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: Where does this lead the Bank of England and the 158 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: likely right cutting path. Well, it's interesting. 159 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the statement from the Prime Minister 160 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Rishie Sunak saying that today marks a major moment for 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: the economy with inflation. 162 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Back to normal. 163 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: This is proof that the plan is working, that the 164 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: difficult decisions we have taken are paying off. 165 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: Brighter days are ahead. 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: But only if we stick to the plan. So actually 167 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: he's kind of embracing this as getting back to target. 168 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: So the fact that we're just two percentage points at 169 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: zero point two percent off the target the survey for 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: the target, you know, is still being embraced because it 171 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 2: is a tremendous drop from three point two to two 172 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: point three percent. But of course the Prime Minister would 173 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: welcome this because it was his top priority last year 174 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: to have inflation and this year, you know, it's still 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: focus on relieving this cost of living crisis. Will the 176 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: Bank of England read it in the same way, will 177 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: the market read it in the same later when we 178 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: get those BOE bets? 179 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, this is an interesting one because, 180 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: as you say, the inflation is coming down, it's just 181 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: not down as much as we had been expected. So 182 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: it's an interesting one for to see that the differing 183 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: reactions that we're going to get from the markets and 184 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: also how politicians are painting it as well. This is 185 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: sort of an interesting moment to be keeping an eye 186 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: on where this trajectory goes because we're waiting for action 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: from the Bank of England to see what it does 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: in the rate path, but also of course we're looking 189 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: out towards an election. 190 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would note that when we heard from 191 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey yesterday he was speaking at the London School 192 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: of Economics, he was not as clear as Christine Legarde 193 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: saying that a June cut is likely. He was expecting 194 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: quite a drop you heard him there, and that the 195 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: next move in rates will be a cut, but he 196 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: was not saying that that cut would come in Gue 197 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: or August specifically, so hedging his bets essentially on when 198 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: the cut is coming. I'm sure that they'll be looking 199 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: at these particularly sticky services and core readings and waiting 200 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: for the rest of the data that we're going to get. 201 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting to see some of the commentary coming out 202 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: of the Office for National Statistics on the stickiness in 203 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: this inflation. The chief economist at the O and S 204 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: talking about the prices of goods leaving factories rising a 205 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: little over the last year, while the price of raw 206 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: materials and fuels grew in the last month. Although as 207 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Grant Fazner points out, this is they still remained below 208 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: where they were a year ago. So the detail in 209 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: this this is a very interesting as well. And at 210 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: that services number you made reference to it already coming 211 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: in very close to where it was last month's really 212 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: not much of a movement at all, and that's of 213 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: particular importance. 214 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 215 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: You might not expect the outspokenness from the chief economist 216 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: of the ONS, but Grant Fitzner has been speaking out recently, 217 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: and he points out here that services companies, such as 218 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: in hospitality are particularly exposed to wage costs. Hence it 219 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: has been such a sticky number here, barely budging, as 220 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: I say, five point nine percent, only down from six 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: percent there. 222 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, we'll have been watching a force closely 223 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: for further market reaction to that story too. I just 224 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: wanted to bring you up to date with another breaking 225 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: news story we've had out in the UK this morning, 226 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: and this is of two fines coming from UK regulators 227 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: for City Group, the Financial Conduct Authority finding City Groups 228 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: Global Markets twenty seven point eight million pounds for failures 229 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: and its trading systems and controls. The Prudential Regulation Authority 230 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: also finding City Group for the same reasons just under 231 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: thirty four million pounds, so a total fine in fact 232 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: for the bank of just under sixty two million pounds 233 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: for what's being described as these failures and trading systems 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and controls. That is some breaking news we're getting around 235 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: City Group this morning. 236 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say, Stephen that today is 237 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: the most exciting day for the market. 238 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Of the week. 239 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: The other thing that's on the agenda, of course, are 240 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: the Nvidia earnings, the AI leader set to report its 241 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: results after the Wall Street close today, capping off reports 242 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: from America's big tech giants, and video shares have been 243 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: inching ever higher this month, within a whisper of its 244 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: all time high from March, and we can get a 245 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: preview now of those earnings with Matt Bloxam from Bloomberg Intelligence. Matt, 246 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: what are you looking out for in these results today? 247 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I think the big focus is going to 248 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 7: be on revenue, not just for the quarter they're going 249 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 7: to report, so that's the quarter at the end of 250 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 7: the end of April, but also the forward quarter. So 251 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 7: for the quarter they're going to report, the market's looking 252 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 7: for about twenty four point seven billion dollars, which is 253 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 7: a little bit ahead of the twenty four billion dollar 254 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 7: guidance they set at their last set of results, and 255 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 7: then if you look forward to the next quarter, that's 256 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 7: where you know the market's looking for the guidance they're 257 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 7: going to give. The consensus is around twenty six point 258 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 7: eight billion dollars, so I think looking for a number, 259 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 7: let's say around twenty seven billion dollars for that forward guide. 260 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 7: That's really where the market's going to be is obviously 261 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 7: big questions about how how long can Nvidia continue to 262 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 7: grow at this incredibly fast pace. Is there going to 263 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 7: start to be some kind of headwinds from competition, or 264 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 7: as we saw in the week, some clients maybe holding 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 7: back on the current technology of chips and pushing their 266 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 7: demand and their orders into the new technology of chips. 267 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 7: So that's kind of really where the big focus is 268 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 7: going to lie. 269 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: I think how much competition is in Nvidia facing from others? 270 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: We know that the demand is pretty instable in this area. 271 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Are there others who are stepping up to the place. 272 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, there are, although you know it's kind of a 273 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 7: slow burn. So all of their big customers, so the 274 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 7: so called hyperscalers, people like Google and Amazon and Meta 275 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 7: and Microsoft, because they're so reliant on in the video. 276 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 7: They've been developing their own chips so they can do 277 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 7: some of this processing themselves, but it's a relatively early stage, 278 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 7: and they're still doing that in parallel with buying KIP 279 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 7: from Nvidia. And then you've got some of the more 280 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 7: traditional chip manufacturers like AMD who are saying, wow, this 281 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 7: is an enormous market. Must be able to weaken figure 282 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: some of what we do already to tap into this demand. 283 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 7: So I think, you know that that stuff's all coming, 284 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: but it doesn't just happen overnight. So I think if 285 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 7: you kind of look a year out from now, there'll 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 7: be a lot more competition foreign video to kind of 287 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 7: fight against. But I think by then the market's going 288 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 7: to be even bigger. And obviously the market's evolving. You know, 289 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 7: we heard earlier in the week that Dell's launched a 290 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 7: new range of PCs that are kind of AI focused, 291 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 7: So you know, there's a lot of different moving parts 292 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 7: in how the overall chip and technology industry is shifting. 293 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: Just thinking about the reaction that we can expect after 294 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: these results, I feel like good isn't good enough for 295 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: investors in this space. I was looking at the shares 296 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: in advanced micro devices they felt nearly ten percent even 297 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: though it raised its sales forecast. And then you had 298 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: super micro Computer falling fourteen percent even though their forecasts 299 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: went above and beyond the estimates. So even if in 300 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: video does well today, will good be good enough for investors? 301 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 7: I mean it's a really good question, and I think, yeah, 302 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 7: you know that the sense would be, you know, possibly not, 303 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 7: because the markets can be so fickle, and you know, 304 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 7: whilst the market's looking for a significant increase in the 305 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 7: forward quarter, I think in the back of people smiling 306 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 7: of yeah, you know that they're easily going to post 307 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 7: something better than this because of the last three or 308 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 7: four quarters they've always come up with guidance that's been 309 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 7: way better than the markets expected. But you know, every 310 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 7: quarter that goes by the market starts to anticipate that 311 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 7: more and more. So you need a really big beat 312 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 7: for people to kind of, you know, be pleased and 313 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 7: possibly surprised by the numbers. And that as you know, 314 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 7: the stocks at closer in all time high, there's a 315 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 7: lot of growth already factored into that share price. 316 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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