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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Movie Mike's Movie Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am your host Movie Mike joined this week, but

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Speaker 1: my wife and co host, Kelsey, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I would like to say I'm actually the host of this.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say that's all I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: because we are doing your favorite.

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Speaker 2: Books of the year, my favorite books of the year.

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Speaker 1: I know nothing about books. I don't think I've finished

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Speaker 1: one book this year. Graphic novels, yeah, not the same

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Speaker 1: less words. I'm trying to hype you up there, but

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Speaker 1: this is an important episode for anybody who wants to

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Speaker 1: follow some of your recommendations. You're looking for something to read,

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Speaker 1: and it's a completely different format than the movie format

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Speaker 1: you are used to. So I'm just going to let

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Speaker 1: you take it away and I will comment as needed.

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Speaker 3: Perfect I would like to say I'm excited for this.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows I love to read. I have a book

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Speaker 3: club with my friends. I just joined Sharon McMahon's book club.

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Speaker 3: I would like to give a shout out at the

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Speaker 3: start of this episode to a listener of your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Mandy.

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Speaker 3: She sent me a message about a book club with

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Speaker 3: Sharon McMahon.

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Speaker 2: Wh If you don't know or follow. She is on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: She teaches a lot about like government and history and

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Speaker 3: kind of breaks things down what's going on in the

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Speaker 3: world politics, makes it super easy to understand. And she

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Speaker 3: does a book club where you have to pay for it,

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Speaker 3: but you get like zooms with the authors. And Mandian

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Speaker 3: sent me a message and she was like, I think

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Speaker 3: you'd enjoy this. So I signed up for the spring.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited for that. I do like the book

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Speaker 3: of the month. I also just signed up for Parnassas

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Speaker 3: here in Nashville has like a First Editions thing that

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Speaker 3: you can join, so every month you get like an

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Speaker 3: early release, signed first edition of a book. And then

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Speaker 3: I know in your head you're just seeing price tags

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Speaker 3: roll at how much I spent.

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Speaker 1: Then I like first Editions. I think I can respect that.

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Speaker 1: As somebody who collects comic books, I can appreciate a

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Speaker 1: first edition.

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Speaker 3: I would like to say too, this is a safe space.

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Speaker 3: There are forty books on our bookshelf in our bedroom.

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Speaker 2: That you've read that.

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Speaker 1: You haven't read, and then it's say, clarify.

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Speaker 3: That forty books that I have not read, and then

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Speaker 3: countless others on my kind So I got a lot

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Speaker 3: to do over Christmas break. At the time of recording,

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Speaker 3: this is my first day off for two weeks. Set

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Speaker 3: that out of office, I'm gonna do nothing but read,

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Speaker 3: watch the Crown, drink a lot of coffee.

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Speaker 1: And we have been watching a lot of movies. We

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Speaker 1: have been watching a lot of Christmas movies of Christmas content.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So how I broke this down was I have

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Speaker 3: my top ten books, and I actually don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: how many I'm at for the year because Goodreads broke

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Speaker 3: things twice, not recording things. I think I'm almost either

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Speaker 3: at or above my sixty which is my goal for

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Speaker 3: the year. About eight of those, including my book club books. Shockingly,

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Speaker 3: none of the ones my book club read made it

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Speaker 2: I liked the books. Most book club.

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Speaker 1: Is more like finding books you wouldn't normally read and

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Speaker 1: discussing them.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we suggest like four or five, and then I

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Speaker 3: send out a Google form and everyone votes so that

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Speaker 3: could have done without reading this, So a fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the same thing when you go watch a

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Speaker 1: movie that maybe you don't completely enjoy, you still get

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Speaker 1: some enjoyment out of it. I don't even regret the

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Speaker 1: bad movies we saw this year because gives was something

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Speaker 3: So I have, like I said, ten books, and I

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Speaker 3: is World War Two in historical.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to do the other category first. And

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Speaker 3: And then it's like page churner, but you do have

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Speaker 1: I will say you reading this book, watching the movie,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh. And I was like, how could they

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Speaker 3: has Scorsese done any interviews about that, like the differences?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But it just really comes down to him wanting

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Speaker 3: The next one is another nonfiction. These are the only

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Speaker 3: So this was written by Cody Keenan, who was Obama

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Speaker 3: just a really fascinating book, like what goes into writing

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Speaker 1: That kind of sounds fascinating, like I would enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: I think just hearing about that kind of puts into

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Speaker 1: just my perspective and hearing that sounds interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: It was really fascinating.

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Speaker 3: I also just like learning about the inner workings of

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Speaker 1: That sounds good.

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Speaker 3: Next one is Hello Beautiful by Anne Napolitano. So she

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Speaker 2: Great book, better book than show.

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Speaker 1: Decent show started out really good.

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Speaker 3: Again, that was one where they completely changed the book

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was also aboud it probably would have

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Speaker 1: And it was like the same emotion kind of in

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Speaker 3: So Hello Beautiful is a story about this family of

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Speaker 1: Are Slice of Life books viewed as like because Slice

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Speaker 3: But it's called No Two Persons by Erica Bauermeister, and

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Speaker 3: it is about how books affect everyone differently. So well done.

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Speaker 3: it affects five or six different people if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 1: So it's a book about a book essentially. I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's kind of like what The Fableman's was last year. Yes,

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Speaker 3: The Measure. This isn't similar to the Measure, but it

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Speaker 1: I'm familiar with the Measure even though I've never read it.

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Speaker 3: Didn't get into it, really, I was the czar friendship

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Speaker 3: over right now. Like that book is a game changer

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Speaker 3: make that into a movie. I could see Reser's been

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Speaker 1: I was about to say I'm still waiting for that movie.

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Speaker 3: Last book in the fiction nonfiction combo, Pineapple Street by

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Speaker 3: Jenny Jackson, another dysfunctional family story about these rich siblings

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Speaker 3: So yeah, Martha Hall Kelly, I would highly recommend all

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Speaker 2: Such a good one. I don't want to give too

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Speaker 3: I saw this one on a table at Parnassis caught

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Speaker 2: That's honestly how I find books.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you judge books by their cover, I do interesting.

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Speaker 2: That's the only way I suggest comics to you. For

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Speaker 3: So The Last Lifeboat is about World War two when

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Speaker 2: It was really good. Again said that about all of them,

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Speaker 3: It was The Postcard by Anne Barrest was originally written

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Speaker 1: That reminds me of that show we watched The Watcher

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Speaker 3: We added ten extra characters to make it a TV show,

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Speaker 1: that could be turned into a movie, it would be amazing.

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Speaker 1: It would change the game. So out of all the

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Speaker 1: things I've read, that has been the one that has

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Speaker 1: kept me going to try to find more like that.

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Speaker 1: As far as books that have come out this year,

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Speaker 1: I'm really into Gargoyle of Gotham, which is a current

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Speaker 1: run of a Batman story, which I think, how many

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Speaker 1: more different Batman stories can they do? They're changing it

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Speaker 1: here too. It feels kind of like The Batman with

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Speaker 1: Robert Pattinson, but has like Bruce Wayne has a totally

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Speaker 1: different vibe to him. And there's only two issues out now,

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Speaker 1: but I think this will easily probably be turned into

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Speaker 1: something later down the line. But if I had to

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Speaker 1: recommend something on the graphic novel Side Last run In

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Speaker 1: for sure is one of the best things to get

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Speaker 1: into if you know nothing about it. And if you're

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Speaker 1: wanting to read something current, definitely Gargoyla Gotham.

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Speaker 3: And I would like to say too, there was a

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Speaker 3: book I recommended last year. I won't say the name

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Speaker 3: because I don't want to give it any attention, but

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Speaker 3: a listener very kindly wrote in and let us know

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Speaker 3: that that one's actually not really recommended by Jewish historians.

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Speaker 3: It's not honoring to the Jewish history. It's not very accurate,

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Speaker 3: and I so appreciated that message. So if there is

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Speaker 3: ever a book that I read and I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: that it's not great to recommend, please feel free to

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Speaker 3: send in kind Don't tell me I'm stupid or something

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Speaker 3: for recommending it, please, But I do love to be

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Speaker 3: educated on those things, and I'm always trying to read

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Speaker 3: World War two books that are honoring to history and

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Speaker 3: not trying to rewrite history.

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Speaker 1: That's what I like about the movie crew listeners of

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Speaker 1: this podcast is everybody's cool about having a different opinion.

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Speaker 1: It's different because doing a podcast like this, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to agree with everything we say because we're going

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Speaker 1: to have our own opinions on movies. It's just our opinion.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like there's always a healthy conversation among

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Speaker 1: everybody here of like, oh you like that. I didn't

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Speaker 1: like that. Here's why I didn't like it. Now, when

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Speaker 1: I post things on YouTube, entirely different audience there, and

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Speaker 1: I just get people just hating on me.

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Speaker 2: And I will say that one wasn't even a matter

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Speaker 2: of opinion.

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Speaker 3: That one was literally someone saying like, hey, they don't

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Speaker 3: recommend this. Jewish museums have actually come out and said

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Speaker 3: that this is not a good book. So if that's

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Speaker 3: the case, something like that, I really do appreciate to

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Speaker 3: be educated because sometimes in life you need someone to

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Speaker 3: tell you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, now everybody has a lot of things they

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Speaker 1: can read and check out. Anything else you would like

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Speaker 1: to mention or add.

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Speaker 3: Remember to if you're going to buy a book, try

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Speaker 3: to shop local. There's always cool indie bookstores. That's my

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Speaker 3: favorite thing to do. I came home from New York

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Speaker 3: last week and with two four hundred page hardback books

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Speaker 3: in my suitcase.

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Speaker 2: Did they fit not entirely? Did I get them back? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Because I love going to indie bookstores, So support local

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Speaker 3: or support your library. Libraries are cool. Honestly supporting your

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Speaker 3: library keeps them in business. So library or indie bookstores.

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Speaker 1: I would say the same things when it comes to

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Speaker 1: comic book shops. I have my favorite comic shop here

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, Rick's Comics, and I could easily get all

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Speaker 1: these titles online or even like at Target or Best

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Speaker 1: Buy who have now slowly got into selling graphic novels.

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Speaker 1: But for me, I've made a rule that I don't

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Speaker 1: like ordering anything online. I gotta go in and actually

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Speaker 1: sort through things and search through things to find what

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Speaker 1: I want to read. It just feels like since it's

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Speaker 1: become my hobby, like the actual going to the place

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Speaker 1: and supporting a local business as part of it too,

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Speaker 1: and like it's like a small little community of nerds

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Speaker 1: that go here. So I feel like it's really important

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Speaker 1: to me to support these stores that I mean could

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Speaker 1: easily go away. Like with physical media, you look at

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Speaker 1: just the way things have changed from movies, books, music,

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Speaker 1: it's all just it's hard to get people to go

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Speaker 1: actually into a store to purchase a physical copy of

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Speaker 1: anything with the.

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Speaker 3: Digital ones too, like a kindle copy is obviously cheaper

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Speaker 3: than a physical book, and sometimes that is why I

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Speaker 3: go reading on my kindle.

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Speaker 2: But that's why I get a library card, three library cards,

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Speaker 2: that is.

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Speaker 3: I would also like to say I saw someone do

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Speaker 3: a challenge one time that their husband took them to

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Speaker 3: a bookstore and they had like ten minutes and every

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Speaker 3: single book that they could carry or grab in ten

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Speaker 3: minutes they got. And my thirtieth birthday isn't about a

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Speaker 3: week from the time this episode is released, So do

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Speaker 3: you think we could do that?

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Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like fun.

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Speaker 2: Just take me to Parnassis books are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can really only carry so many books, so

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Speaker 1: I feel like you got about.

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Speaker 2: Price wise easily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm looking see different with comic book

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Speaker 1: because one single comic book could be like one thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: I'll even let you turn it into a TikTok, I

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Speaker 3: will let you make it content.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I could be down for that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so be on the lookout for that. Follow me

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Speaker 3: on Goodreads. We'll put that in the show notes. Let

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Speaker 3: me know if you guys have any favorite books.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Movie Mike D at gmail dot com you can

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Speaker 1: DM me. My socials are always in the episode notes

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Speaker 1: as well. I think we've covered it all.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me take over your podcast for a day.

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Speaker 1: I love it every single year to tradition, and now

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Speaker 1: this is its own individual episode so people can find

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Speaker 1: it easily in reference it. So there we go, and until.

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Speaker 2: Next time, go out and read good books, and we

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Speaker 2: will

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Speaker 1: Talk to you later