WEBVTT - #689 Packers Unscripted: Bracing for the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Weston Hodgo. It's keeping my distance

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<v Speaker 1>because I am a little bit under the weather. I

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for my voice. I will try to fight through

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<v Speaker 1>this today for the episode as best I can. Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are here to talk about Packers Bears Soldier Field Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be a noon Central Time kickoff. The overarching

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<v Speaker 1>story is the winner of this game has the most

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<v Speaker 1>wins of any franchise in NFL history. Those teams are

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<v Speaker 1>deadlocked with seven and eighty six victories if I have

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<v Speaker 1>the number right. The more internal story is what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the quarterbacks because the Bears are hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to get Justin Fields back in action after he missed

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<v Speaker 1>last week with a shoulder injury. Packers at this point

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<v Speaker 1>counting on Aaron Rodgers being able to play despite the

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<v Speaker 1>rib injury that is now on top of the broken

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<v Speaker 1>thumb that continues to heal. So very interesting quarterback storyline

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<v Speaker 1>here heading into Chicago on Sunday. First, and foremost incredible

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<v Speaker 1>that hunt for seven eight seven that both of these

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<v Speaker 1>teams have kind of been on here for a number

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks. Now. From the green Bay Packers perspective, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you tip your cap to Brat Farve. To

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers, the fact that the Packers not only were

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<v Speaker 1>able to pull out in front of the Bears and

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<v Speaker 1>the all time series between the two teams, but are

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<v Speaker 1>now in a position to potentially overtake Chicago for all

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<v Speaker 1>time wins in NFL history. That's a tremendous achievement for

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<v Speaker 1>all the Packers teams, the quarterbacks, coaches, everybody that contributed

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<v Speaker 1>to that surge for green Bay considering where they were

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<v Speaker 1>at the eighties. Yeah, for sure, that being said, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about quarterbacks and two thousand and twenty two, what an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting decision here for both of these squads. Now for

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<v Speaker 1>the green Bay Packers. Aaron Rodgers, he he sliced it

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<v Speaker 1>down kind of like this. He's feeling better. He did

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<v Speaker 1>his rehab work on Wednesday. His goal is to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go on Sunday once again. The Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is such a tricky decision for

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<v Speaker 1>them though, because as much as you want justin fields

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<v Speaker 1>out there, as much as you want him playing against

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers. As much as you want him

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<v Speaker 1>out in front of your fans to energize that base

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<v Speaker 1>heading into two thousand twenty three, you also do kind

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<v Speaker 1>of need to think about two thousand twenty three. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to make that shoulder injury any worse. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very interested to see what the week takes here.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw our good friend, former Green Bay Packer Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Boyle was signed off the practice squad from the Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>Lions as a potential backup because of Trevor Simeons injury. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's a lot of different moving parts right

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<v Speaker 1>now for the Bears, but I'll be very interested to

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<v Speaker 1>see what the strategy is here with that, because justin

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<v Speaker 1>fields Man, one thing we've learned over the last two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks two months. I should say they're using him the

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<v Speaker 1>right way, but it is a physical way of using him,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to be putting him out there for

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<v Speaker 1>contact if he plays the game the way he's been

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<v Speaker 1>playing it. Yeah, absolutely, this is This is a very

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<v Speaker 1>different Um Bears team from the one that the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>saw in Week two at lambeau Field in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways, starting on the offensive side of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball that game back in Week two the Bears. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bears were intent on running the football in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't about justin Fields running the football. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about Montgomery and Herbert pounding away. Now that backfield tandem,

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<v Speaker 1>give those guys some credit. They've combined for one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>two d and twenty three rushing yards in twelve games

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<v Speaker 1>with seven touchdowns. But what we've seen since Week two,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I would say, you know, maybe as as

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<v Speaker 1>the season got into like mid October and beyond, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen justin Fields take over this Bears offense in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of his decision making and not only the improvised running,

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<v Speaker 1>but then also the um the schemed running plays for

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. And he leads all NFL quarterbacks in rushing

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<v Speaker 1>yards with eight hundred and thirty four, also has seven

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<v Speaker 1>rushing touchdowns. So that whole combination, the two running backs

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<v Speaker 1>and the quarterback, this is the number one rushing offense

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. And of course it's the way this

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<v Speaker 1>league works. Right west, the Packers are coming off of

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<v Speaker 1>allowing three hundred and sixty three rushing yards, where the

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Eagles running backs and their quarterbacks piled up a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of rushing yards. So who's next down the list,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one rushing offense in the league if Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Fields plays. And again, at this point, all we know

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<v Speaker 1>at the time we're taping this is that Fields was

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<v Speaker 1>a limited participant in Wednesday's practice for the Bears. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know what the rest of the week holds there.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, but Justin Fields, the way the way he

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<v Speaker 1>runs the ball, he is I'm not sure of exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the right adjectives. He is. He is slippery, he is elusive,

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<v Speaker 1>he is dangerous. Um just asked the Miami Dolphins, who

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<v Speaker 1>have one of the best records in the a f C,

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<v Speaker 1>and Justin Fields almost single handedly beat the Miami Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>down South earlier this season. And he's decisive. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>other aspect to this too. Yeah, there's no no hesitation

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing out Sometimes when you get these young quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because they can't figure out what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they throwing? Are they running? Do they want to

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<v Speaker 1>run and then throw? Justin Fields when he does something,

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<v Speaker 1>he commits to it, and that's the biggest difference I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen watching him over the last month. Compared to even

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<v Speaker 1>where where the he was at in Week two against

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay. Now the fascinating part of this thing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers, and I do not cover the

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bears. Maybe the statistics are available, maybe someone's already

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<v Speaker 1>looked into it, but you're right, Bears are the number

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<v Speaker 1>one ranked rushing offense of the National Football League. They

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<v Speaker 1>are dead last in passing offense. Though we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>throwbacks and and things like that inside or inbox this week.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears are a throwback right now. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>out rushing their past game by about fifty or sixty

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<v Speaker 1>yards right now a game. It's because of this dimension

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<v Speaker 1>that they've added with fields. But he's comfortable in that setting.

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<v Speaker 1>He's effective in that setting. And also I think with

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<v Speaker 1>Havin Juice, Herbert get more immersed in this offense. He's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been this running back that's sort of always

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<v Speaker 1>been there that it seems like the last few years,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was really only the break the glass in

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<v Speaker 1>case of emergency that something happens with David Montgomery. They're

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<v Speaker 1>using them more in tandem this season or more specifically

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the year, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>worked out very well for them. Now this has all

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<v Speaker 1>come at a cost to you know, Darnel Mooney stats.

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<v Speaker 1>After his breakout year, he hasn't had that type of

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<v Speaker 1>season again, Cole commet probably from a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that were hoping he'd be a big fantasy stud. This

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<v Speaker 1>year hasn't quite reached that level. But the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>were looking to win games, they were looking to be

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<v Speaker 1>more effective, they were looking for something to hang their

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<v Speaker 1>hat on in Over these last few weeks, even if

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<v Speaker 1>the winds haven't always been there, I think they definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have found their identity underneath their young quarterback. Yeah, the winds,

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<v Speaker 1>the winds haven't been there, but you look at their

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<v Speaker 1>game by game there's I mean, they've you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>lost by three points to the Falcons, they lost one

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<v Speaker 1>point to the Lions. They you know, yeah, they they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up getting blown out by the Cowboys. They had

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<v Speaker 1>one comeback and then the Cowboys pulled away. Yeah, but three,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, three or four of Chicago's recent losses have

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<v Speaker 1>been one score games and and sometimes even a field

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<v Speaker 1>goal or less. So excuse me. They've definitely been in

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of games personnel wise. You mentioned Darnell Mooney,

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<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver. He's now on injured reserve. UM. Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Claypool was a wide receiver the Bears picked up via

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<v Speaker 1>trade and other personnel changes. More significant ones in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways have occurred on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in terms of what the Packers saw back

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<v Speaker 1>in Week two. Because Robert Quick in the pass rusher,

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<v Speaker 1>Roquan Smith the star inside linebacker. Both of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>have been traded and now star safety Eddie Jackson has

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<v Speaker 1>landed on injured reserve and he is out for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the year. Chicago's biggest problem during the five

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<v Speaker 1>game losing streak that has that has dropped them to

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<v Speaker 1>three and nine on the year is the defense. The

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<v Speaker 1>fewest points they have allowed in this five game losing

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<v Speaker 1>streak is twenty seven. All the other games have been

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<v Speaker 1>thirty or more. UM. This is a defense that is

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<v Speaker 1>that is struggling flat out west And when you look,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at the Packers, and yes, Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be managing some pain, managing his injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've you know, we're seeing this big emergence of

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Watson. Romeo Dobbs was back at practice on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>so potentially, after missing the last three games from his

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<v Speaker 1>injury and ankle injury in Detroit, Romeo Dobbs might get

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<v Speaker 1>back on the field for the Packers. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay's offense the last three games, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers have only won one of those three. They

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<v Speaker 1>lost to both both Tennessee and Philadelphia. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>last three games, the Packers offensively have really only had

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<v Speaker 1>like one bad quarter, and it was the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>against Tennessee, which was crucial and cost them a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to win that game. But they scored twenty eight points

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<v Speaker 1>in regulation against the Cowboys, added a field goal in overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>You had seventeen points in the first three quarters against

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good Tennessee Titans defense, but then the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter things kind of crumbled on you offensively. Then between

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers and Jordan's Love, you put up thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>points against Philadelphia against a pretty darn good defense that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's uh leading the number one seed in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC right now. So Packers have had one bad

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<v Speaker 1>quarter in the last three weeks, and now they're heading

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<v Speaker 1>into facing a defense that that's really trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>itself and really struggling Packers have to keep doing what

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<v Speaker 1>they've been doing offensively, and it's weird is this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to sound that there are still positives on the

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<v Speaker 1>defensive side that Green Bay is gonna need to hang

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<v Speaker 1>his hat And I'll get to that in a moment. Offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a huge opportunity. There are some great stories

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bears defense. Certainly Jack Sandborn, the Lake Zurich native,

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<v Speaker 1>the undrafted free agent, former Wisconsin Badger. He's been one

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys that's emerged for them. They've had before

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<v Speaker 1>the liszt Frank injury. Eddie Jackson had sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>resurgent year for them. Unfortunately now they lost him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have been highly ineffective at pressuring the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>even before the trade of Robert Quinn. Quinn, as we've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>has been kind of a streaky pass rushing throughout his career,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sacks. Last year he had one through I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was whatever it was, six or seven games and

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<v Speaker 1>to the point in which they traded him, sixteen sacks

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<v Speaker 1>right now for the Chicago Bears, conversely, they've allowed forty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin fields has eaten forty of those. When you have

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<v Speaker 1>a minus in the sack differential, not saying it's like turnovers,

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it's like time of possession or any other

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<v Speaker 1>stats you want to use, but that is a jarring figure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's significant because if you're not getting to the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to make sure you're protecting yours and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears just haven't been able to win that equation this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of that is from the standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>that it is a really young defense. Aaron Rodgers was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that on Wednesday. There's a lot of new

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<v Speaker 1>faces there as far as the Packers are concerned, though,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three points last week against Philadelphia, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>have three straight games now with Christian Watson scoring at

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<v Speaker 1>least one touchdown, the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month

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<v Speaker 1>for November after a terrific stretch of games. Hats off

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<v Speaker 1>to Watson for that. Just as a quick sidebar, first

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<v Speaker 1>Packers rookie to win that award in nine years, first

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<v Speaker 1>offensive offensive when that Damerius Randall also got it in fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first one since Eddie Lacy, first first offensive,

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<v Speaker 1>first offensive rookie since Eddie Lacy and then Sam Kangato

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<v Speaker 1>before that, but all that being said Green Bay, I

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<v Speaker 1>look at Aaron Jones in this game. I look at

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<v Speaker 1>A J. Dillon. I look at this as an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't know whether or not Romeo Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>will be back or not. He was able to practice

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, appears to be making strides with his ankle injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But the stars are a line there for the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>pieces offensively and in this on all different sides of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even have to add in the storyline with

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers and the Bears at Soldier Field. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>type of game the Green Bay Packers, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>this season has gone, should expect to win. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely expect to win this one. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>win this one. I you know, we like to get

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<v Speaker 1>into our keys to victory. I think I already said it.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the Packers offense, I think it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just continue to do what you're doing. Because

0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you're facing a defensive unit that is struggling. Your offense

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<v Speaker 1>is starting to find itself. I thought the combination of

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<v Speaker 1>run and pass last week against Philly, what Aaron Jones

0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and a J. Dillon were doing, what Christian Watson Randall

0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Cobb and company were doing in the passing game. I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked the I really like the balance in the

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth there. Hopefully the Packers can keep that

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<v Speaker 1>going defensively. To me, this game comes down to one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's make Justin Fields throw the football now. And

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<v Speaker 1>I say that not as some sort of a rip

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<v Speaker 1>on the guy that that he can't throw or that

0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.000
<v Speaker 1>he can't move the ball through the air. But you

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<v Speaker 1>said it West. These guys are ranked last in the

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<v Speaker 1>league offense, their first in the league in rushing offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether they're gonna whether they're gonna run the ball

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<v Speaker 1>with Fields or with those two those two backs who

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<v Speaker 1>have been so productive for them during the season, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make the Chicago Bears throw the football because

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't, if you if you don't, they they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to. They are going to use that rushing

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<v Speaker 1>offensive their's to wear you down. I mean, trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>they they have. They have gone over every inch of

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<v Speaker 1>videotape of that game in Philadelphia, of the all the

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<v Speaker 1>tackles that the Packers missed, where the holes were with

0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you know how Jalen Hurts was able to get out

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<v Speaker 1>so many times and run Miles Sanders and and Kenneth Gainwell,

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<v Speaker 1>and what those guys are doing running between the tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>They have dissected all of that, and they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to come at the Packers with everything they've got with

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<v Speaker 1>their running game, and the Packers are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to make justin Fields throw the football to to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be able to have a good day defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an excellent point you raised, because you're right

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<v Speaker 1>and how you approach Fields and in not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect any other aspects of his game. But I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>so many times from you. I mean, the things you

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<v Speaker 1>can do on a grill, right, you we've talked about,

0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, your steaks, your chicken, things like that. I've

0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 1>never heard you break about your risotto. Just because you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're you're a world class chef, doesn't mean you've

0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.960
<v Speaker 1>mastered every single dish here, Right, That's how this goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that? You like that, That's how this goes

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<v Speaker 1>with Fields. You want to take him out of his

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<v Speaker 1>comfort zone here, because the blueprint for victory is so clear.

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<v Speaker 1>They've seen it two or three times now against this

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<v Speaker 1>young man. Matt Lafleur still has yet to lose to

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears became the head coach. So the other

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of this for me is one of the early

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<v Speaker 1>tipping points that sort of signaled some potential turbulent waters

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<v Speaker 1>for the Packers. Run defense kind of started against Chicago

0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.520
<v Speaker 1>because David Montgomery had one of his best games of

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<v Speaker 1>the season in Week two. If I look for a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive key to victory in this thing, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be making sure you do not let him and Juice

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert get going in the run game. Because as volatile

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<v Speaker 1>as Jalen Hurts was, as volatile as fields can be,

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<v Speaker 1>it was as you mentioned, Miles Sanders having a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard rushing day. It's what Herbert in Montgomery could do

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<v Speaker 1>in this game to be the number one ranked rushing

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<v Speaker 1>off it in the league. It's not just because you

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<v Speaker 1>have a scrambling quarterback. You have to have some good

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<v Speaker 1>backs that are helping them out as well. That's what

0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the Bears have. And you have to imagine a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Luke Getsy that has as much experience in this system,

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<v Speaker 1>many different versions of it here in Green Bay. You

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<v Speaker 1>know he's going to have his pencil going this week

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come up with some ideas, some thoughts, some theories,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is still a young coaching staff, It's still

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching staff that feels like they have the right

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in place to guide themselves into the future. Where

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions were at at the end of last

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<v Speaker 1>season in terms of how they felt about their football team,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the area that the Bears are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gravitating towards right now. So from my perspective, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it really starts with that ground game and making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the Packers defensively shore up some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that they were lacking last week in Philly. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned the fact that Justin Fields has been

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<v Speaker 1>sacked forty times this year. I honestly hope the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>don't even pay attention to that number because because this

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<v Speaker 1>game is not going to come down to how many

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<v Speaker 1>times you can sack Justin Fields. You know, the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>got off to such a bad start against Philadelphia because

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<v Speaker 1>they were a little bit too over zealous, over aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>early on with trying to rush Justin Fields. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>with with having with having a spy um I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>with with Jalen Hurts last week, they thought with having

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<v Speaker 1>a spy that they could that they could contain his scrambling. Well,

0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened in the first quarter. Jalen Hurts rushes for

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<v Speaker 1>over a hundred yards and the Eagles have two quick

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns on the board right or early in the ballgame. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the Packers definitely adjusted from there because

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the game, Jalen Hurts only had roughly

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards rushing. And if you had said, Okay, Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts is only gonna rush for fifty yards from the

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<v Speaker 1>second through the fourth quarter, you take that. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was but it was a bad start in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the Packers can't afford to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that over zealous, over aggressive mode going after Justin Fields because, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as I said, they will have watched everything

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to Philadelphia. They're going to try to take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of every of every breakdown that the Packers had

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<v Speaker 1>in that game and get them into those situations again. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, it's like, at the end of this game,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be looking at how many times

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<v Speaker 1>did Justin Fields get sacked. I'm gonna be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>how many how many pass attempts does justin fields have

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<v Speaker 1>because if that number is high enough, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers win the football game. If that number is too low,

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<v Speaker 1>that means they're running the ball too well and the

0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Packers are gonna have their hands full. And if he

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<v Speaker 1>has to throw a lout, what else does that tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>It tells you the Packers are playing with the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's been one thing absent that week to game

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bears, Green Bay has not really had the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of at this point in the season. The other

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<v Speaker 1>name to keep an eye on is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Devondre Campbell too. In this equation, Yes, Screen Bay has

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<v Speaker 1>not had their full allotment of inside linebackers available really

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<v Speaker 1>all season, so there's a lot of things he can

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<v Speaker 1>do there. Chris Barnes I think has made some nice

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<v Speaker 1>plays this season. But when you talk about being able

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<v Speaker 1>to spy her, you know, hurts and those type of quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that probably isn't the word that Devandre loves

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, but it is something he's very proficient at

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<v Speaker 1>and they definitely have missed him in those situations and

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<v Speaker 1>could really be extremely valuable. He was limited on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>returned to practice last Friday. If he's available on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Another guy that can help in that assignment. Yeah, that changes,

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<v Speaker 1>That changes the equation in terms of how the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>match up and and schematically, maybe we'll go about things

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting slate of games actually starting Thursday night, UM

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night football Big game in the a FC East

0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo is that New England. But the ones that the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that really jump out at me. There's a trio

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<v Speaker 1>of a f C versus NFC games on the slate

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<v Speaker 1>this week that I think all have a an elevated

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<v Speaker 1>level of intrigue. And I'm talking about the Jets playing

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<v Speaker 1>at Minnesota, Tennessee is playing at Philadelphia, and Miami perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the most explosive offense in the NFL right now

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is at San Francisco, going against the team playing probably

0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the best defense in the NFL right now. Those three

0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 1>cross conference games Jets, Vikings, Titans, Eagles, Dolphins, Niners, those

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<v Speaker 1>are all really really interesting. Less it's extremely interesting from

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<v Speaker 1>the Miami standpoint of now the Packers have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of start paying attention to them. Obviously, the coaches have

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<v Speaker 1>their you know, their plans in place already. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they're just gonna go in cold here in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. But now the Dolphins game in Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>is actually right around the corner and going up again

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. That's a very interesting opponent in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the contrast there that the styles and the similarities on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball. It's gonna be fascinating to

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<v Speaker 1>watch that. I also really look at that Jets game too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Mike White thing. I made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of jokes about it, Mike, but the real thing that

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the biggest takeaway from the Jets season so far,

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and Garrett Wilson has kind of talked about this and

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<v Speaker 1>not so many words. They really have only been a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback away in a lot of regards. I mean, certainly

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.399
<v Speaker 1>they've taken have been extremely banged up in their backfield,

0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>but they had the perimeter weapons and they have the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>They just haven't been able to get the quarterback play

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<v Speaker 1>to where it was at last week was an uplifting performance.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're going to be going into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>US Bank Stadium very interested to see how they respond

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<v Speaker 1>in that one. And certainly the Vikings, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build their own momentum um in the Eagles, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say this as well. I mean their run defense

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.159
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tested now against Derrick Henry. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's and and this Philadelphia rush offense that just put

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<v Speaker 1>up three going up against the Tennessee rush defense that

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<v Speaker 1>completely shut down the Packers running game, and uh and

0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>really gave the Packers fits trying to run the football

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in that Thursday night game at Lambeau. And then not

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<v Speaker 1>that there is any bearing on the NFC situation, but

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have come back to life and they have

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<v Speaker 1>a good opponent now against Kansas City at home. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this is sort of the measuring stick

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<v Speaker 1>week right now in the NFL. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of playoff contenders. There's teams like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers that have to try to keep themselves alive here

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<v Speaker 1>with a potentially another win and trying to play catch

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<v Speaker 1>up there with the Chiefs. So a very intriguing slate

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<v Speaker 1>of games, and of course Giants Commanders probably the one

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<v Speaker 1>that has the biggest implication that was for the Packers hopes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that that was the next one I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>mention because because you look at um, even taking you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever implications that might have for the Packers out of

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<v Speaker 1>the equation. You look at the schedule, the down the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch schedule for Washington and the Giants and and the Cowboys,

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>these teams in the NFC East, and how how often

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<v Speaker 1>between now and that second weekend in January when the

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>regular season wraps up, how often they are playing each

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 1>other and and and banging around against each other. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be you know, the Eagles are obviously in the

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<v Speaker 1>catbird seat, sitting there at ten and one. They've they've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten this far with just one loss. There the team

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that everybody is chasing in that division. But um, those

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 1>other teams are gonna be are gonna be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>beating up on each other here down the stretch, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see who

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<v Speaker 1>who emerges when you you get into a run of

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<v Speaker 1>of all these division games where you're playing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>opponents that know you and you know them, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you get into these grinded out battles. Is that something

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<v Speaker 1>that can that can you know, be the catalyst for

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<v Speaker 1>a run for somebody if they if they get it going,

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<v Speaker 1>really get it going against the teams in their own division,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, does does that propel them into the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs or are they all just gonna be beating each

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>other up so much that it's a win here and

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<v Speaker 1>a loss there, and a win here and a loss

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>there and then and nobody really has a whole lot

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.240
<v Speaker 1>of momentum. Whoever from that division makes it into the

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:00.879
<v Speaker 1>post in the same thing can be said out in

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the West to right where Seattle is at as good

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 1>as the story was with Gino Smith and it's still incredible.

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Seattle beyond the quarterback had flaws this season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the season has sort of started to reveal there was

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<v Speaker 1>more where he had a team like San Francisco that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit more was expected, even though there

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>was the quarterback controversy. Uh, and they've sort of pulled

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<v Speaker 1>back up in that race. I said it last week

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<v Speaker 1>or two weeks ago, and I don't like to pair

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<v Speaker 1>it myself, but I think it begs repeating. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch where we're going to learn the most about

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the Giants because the Giants had a very favorable slate.

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>The way everything worked out, even coming off of London,

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned before the week nine by everything worked

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>out well for them. While they finally started getting injured,

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>they started facing winning teams. Now this is where they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to decide whether or not they're a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers, by virtue of being in this you know

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>slump here, these winter duldrums, late fall duldrums, you just

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<v Speaker 1>got to try to beat the Bears and see how

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<v Speaker 1>the rest falls. Because there are so many different ways

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 1>the NFC East is going to shake out that I

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<v Speaker 1>think even those teams in that division, all you really

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<v Speaker 1>truly can do is play the game in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you because there's so many interconnected matchups that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen over the next six weeks. Yeah, certainly from

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the package point of view, you know you've got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the Dolphins and the Vikings, two teams that

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<v Speaker 1>look like they're headed to the playoffs. Those teams are

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>down the road. But this week and then after the bye,

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you're playing the Bears and the Rams, two teams that

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>are under five, not playing all that well overall. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Green Bay, you're like, hey, you know, get

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of wins and then see and see where

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<v Speaker 1>you're at heading into heading into the Christmas trip to Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's really all it boils down to right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and for Green Bay it's that it's that idea

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see which direction this thing goes. Um. You know,

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>certainly there's that sliver of hope. But it's the same

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.199
<v Speaker 1>reason why Aaron Rodgers is pressing to play. It's the

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>same reason why the Packers haven't given up on themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you this too. You know, this thing

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>isn't built for one season. I know everyone's always like, oh,

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the all in thing. Now, it's not built for one season.

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Packers still want to contend for championships. Whatever happens with

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>this postseason race. You still don't want to build up

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>momentum now going into this January, because if you don't

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>have that coming out of a season, you look at

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>where teams can head and the kind of the direction

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 1>things have faced. Uh, this team, I still say is

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>better than its four and eight record indicates, but the

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Packers only have five more chances now to prove that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well with that, we will call it a wrap

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