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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome today three of Patriots Training Camp and

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Speaker 1: live from Training Camp, it's Patriots Unfiltered. I'm Fred Kirsh.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Paul Perlo, Tamara Brown, Mike do So,

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Speaker 1: Evan Lazarre, and we'll be here for the duration of

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Speaker 1: practice today, bringing you everything that we see, taking your emails,

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Speaker 1: taking your calls. It's a great day here, a beautiful day.

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Speaker 1: It's been overcast the first two days, but today the

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Speaker 1: sun is out. Uh, there's a lot of people coming.

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Speaker 1: I see. I'm looking down here. The stands are starting

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Speaker 1: to fill and there's a ton of people still waiting

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Speaker 1: to get in here. So this is a big day.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday here at Jillese Stadium, of course, and again

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Speaker 1: day three. So guys, what are we looking for. We

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Speaker 1: had a little breaking news just before we went on air.

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Speaker 1: We got to clear the trill, clear their depths.

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Speaker 4: Just so I thank you oh yeah, no, Now, Gabril

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Speaker 4: Pepper's field yates coming through with a report this morning

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Speaker 4: Jabrill Peppers signed a three year extension twenty four million

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Speaker 4: up to thirty million.

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Speaker 1: I think Ji Rob Mayo did. He directly confirmed it,

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Speaker 1: directly directly confirmed it. Good for him. Uh yeah, he's uh.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we talked about it the first

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Speaker 4: or second day of the show. I think he's a

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Speaker 4: really good player. I think he brings great energy to

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Speaker 4: and he's just fearless. I think players, uh you know,

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Speaker 4: want to play harder playing with Jabrill Peppers. So I

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Speaker 4: love it. I think he's a great player. You got

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Speaker 4: Duggar and Peppers locked up for the next few years,

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Speaker 4: so I hesitate to call it the back end of

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Speaker 1: So excited, I'm I'm pumped.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a great guy, and I'm excited to

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Speaker 4: continue getting an up close look at it the way

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Speaker 4: he plays the game because it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, going back to the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the dynasty when you had Lawyer Maloy and then

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Speaker 1: he was succeeded by Rodney Harrison. Safety, you know, has

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Speaker 1: been a strong point when they were winning, and so

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Speaker 1: it's good to see. I'm with you, Mike. I like

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Speaker 1: Jabrill Peppers. I think he's an impact player back there.

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Speaker 1: I think he brings it. He can play up close,

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Speaker 1: if you're Judon or Godshaw.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question, Fred, I mean, and that's obviously

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Speaker 4: a very a very pertinent question.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, to me, it.

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Speaker 4: Looks like the priority is guys still in their twenties,

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Speaker 4: you know, and maybe the guys in their early thirties.

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Speaker 4: It's I mean, I understand what the philosophy is for

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Speaker 1: It's hard, It's hard to make that argument.

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Speaker 4: But again, this just does it puts more pressure on

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Gid Mayo did say that Godshaw was injury related.

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Speaker 5: He said he had tweaked something to tightness.

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Speaker 1: That's the definition of a holding on day one. But

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Speaker 1: it's very it's worth very obviously.

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Speaker 5: But you know, just looking at it statistically with Jabrill

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Speaker 5: Peppers one of the most versatile defenders in all of football.

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Speaker 5: You know that we have now a PFF and all

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Speaker 5: of the things that we've gotten to know him a

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Speaker 5: Just a complete leader, captain, tone setter, intense guy. But honest,

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Speaker 5: you know, a lot of the struggles that they had

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Speaker 5: I feel like when we start to talk about culture

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Speaker 5: of the list of players, you know, Dugert Moore, a

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Speaker 1: Peers definitely add spice to the defense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, echo echoing what we said yesterday, he's got that

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Speaker 6: And I also like what Evan said about his honesty.

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Speaker 6: I think you want a guy who not only is

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Speaker 1: So I mean, say what you want about bringing in

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Speaker 1: free agents and all that. I like what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: They're they're telling these guys, you're in our plans, you're

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Speaker 1: you know, this movement, this forward movement. So I think

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Fred and Do says point of desult multiple times.

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Speaker 6: He was looking at, you know, the roster for the

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now it's uh, I guess the salt and peppers.

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Speaker 1: joke right there. But congratulations, Mike. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you get a little taste of that.

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Speaker 4: But now he'll give me, He'll give me a little

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Speaker 1: Lack of talent a lot of these years, especially twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: But he's just a guy that's fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: And if you're gonna do this job and you're gonna

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Speaker 4: So I think he checks all those boxes. But back

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Speaker 4: I just think the inevitable conflict that was going to

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Speaker 4: a question of how far are they willing to go.

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Speaker 4: Are they willing to move on from Matthew Judorn or

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Speaker 4: of this money that this has been primarily focused on

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Speaker 1: That we're seeing to field, you need those two to

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Speaker 1: be clear with Judon, they have made him an offer

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Speaker 1: are opposed to giving him more money this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but what we don't know is what Judon really wants.

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably the way to do it for them,

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't think they're gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: If anything, a little sweetener this year, but I would

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Speaker 8: He took the money last year from this year, he's

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Speaker 8: if you made that, you know a little bit closer now,

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Speaker 8: the Patriots might look at that and say, well, you're

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Speaker 1: But they were willing to do something. You just don't

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Speaker 8: And I don't know what they offered. They might have

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Speaker 8: offered him another ten million a year and he said no,

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Speaker 8: I think if you made it closer to putting him

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Speaker 1: So like if it means an extra five million that

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Speaker 5: He would have offered him an incentive package because he

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Speaker 1: Uh. They've got a little bit of a you know,

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Speaker 1: a foundation there.

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Speaker 4: I just I think we're all wondering how did Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hawkins and maybe Martin map who, how do they fit

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Speaker 4: into the equation. And I mean Paul immediately you know,

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Speaker 4: pointed out, I mean, not not great for Martin mop who.

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Speaker 4: You know, if he's thinking that he's going to get

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Speaker 4: a real prime opportunity here, if he's going to get

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Speaker 8: You know, really earn it.

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Speaker 4: So tough, a little bit tough for him, you know,

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Speaker 4: Josh bloodsoe, those guys not any doors opening.

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Speaker 1: Keep working hard. Injuries happen. It's football, ye, you know,

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Speaker 1: That you see Jabrill Peppers on your screen right now

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Speaker 1: he is newly minted Jabrill Peppers. Is that a deuce

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Speaker 1: label that he's got on his shoulder? It's my guy? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Be sure to tell your son today.

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Speaker 1: Oh he he won't care.

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Speaker 7: He's got to get a photo with Pep.

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Speaker 4: Well, my wife and kids are coming in they for

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Speaker 4: look for? And I said, if it's between zero and ten,

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Speaker 4: those are those are the prime kind of guys of interest,

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Speaker 4: right like Gonzales and may Polk and Baker a little

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Speaker 1: It is certainly a beautiful day here at Jillette Stadium

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Speaker 1: All right, we are live from training camp. It's day

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Speaker 1: three and we're continuing our coverage here. The team is

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Speaker 1: now into their i'd say, offense, defense drills and screen.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you've got a little pre practice walkthrough stuff. May Mike,

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Speaker 8: we've been gone. We went for a commercial. Can you

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Speaker 8: update everyone as to what Julius Jabrill Peppers did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just he walked a little bit. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty great. Clapped. He pointed up to Patriots Unfiltered. You know,

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Speaker 1: shout out to us, my boy Blue. It's funny because Paul,

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Speaker 1: it seems like we always have somebody in our staff

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Speaker 1: who falls in love with the safety. Remember Andy Hart

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Speaker 1: and Jimmy Sanders, Oh yeah, oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, James Peppers at player, he was like the O

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Speaker 4: g Deron Harmon right, just kind of sit on the

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Speaker 4: back end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why. Why did he fall in

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Speaker 1: love with James Sanders the way?

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Speaker 4: The only thing I remember about him was a really

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Speaker 4: nice game sealing interception against Indy in like eight or nine.

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Speaker 8: Peppers is a better player than James.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he's got better apps to a little attendance update. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if we said this before the break,

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Speaker 5: but no Christian Barmore or Marte Mapu to start practice.

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Speaker 1: Christian Barmore.

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Speaker 5: There's our port yesterday that he's under the weather, he's

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Speaker 5: feeling sick, so that that might explain his absence. No, Martinpu.

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Speaker 5: We did see it video Gibson, but not in uniform.

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Speaker 5: Kind of same routine for him.

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Speaker 8: He and Terrell Jennings, who's a rookie undrafted running back,

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Speaker 8: have been out here but not really doing anything. I

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Speaker 8: don't think either one of them had a helmet today.

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Speaker 1: Map Pho.

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Speaker 9: I will point out.

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Speaker 8: During the end of practice yesterday when they went to

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Speaker 1: He had one one of.

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Speaker 8: Those big, sort of extent, those medicine balls, and he

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Speaker 8: was kind of working by himself, like throwing the ball

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Speaker 6: He's also one more quick housekeeping note on Pop Douglas,

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Speaker 6: who Drod Mayo confirmed during the press conference today said

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Speaker 6: he's working through something. It's not major and that's why

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Speaker 6: he's not participating in team drills.

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Speaker 1: Who was a hand?

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Speaker 8: Daniels called it a hand and listen, I don't know

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Speaker 8: what it is. I suggested yesterday that it had to

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Speaker 8: be something upper body because he looked he's been doing

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Speaker 8: all the running right and he looked good doing it.

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Speaker 8: But I would say, I would say that a hand

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Speaker 8: injury based on the amount of punts that he's caught

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Speaker 8: doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair point.

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Speaker 5: We were talking about this a little bit on Catch

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Speaker 5: twenty two, and Barth has an outside the box theory

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Speaker 5: that that they have some things planned for Pop Douglas

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Speaker 5: in terms of some of the motions and things that

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Speaker 5: they might be using with him, And I thought's the

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Speaker 5: best bar take every little susu.

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Speaker 8: Which they got a whole new offense to learn for

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Speaker 8: a second year player like this that I like, if

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Speaker 8: you want to tell me Marcus Jones, you want to

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Speaker 8: tell me they have some things in line for Marcus

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Speaker 8: Jones that maybe they're not going to let us see

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Speaker 8: that bad I could buy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I don't see any reason why they would hold anybody

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Speaker 5: back in this new offense.

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Speaker 1: But well, they may not show us what they're doing

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Speaker 1: until we're not here.

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Speaker 8: You know, they're not going to hold hold him out.

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Speaker 1: No, not for that reason.

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Speaker 8: No, Drake, Well, Jake gets a round of applause.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I think that this is this is

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Speaker 4: that's pretty good crowd today.

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Speaker 1: They do this.

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Speaker 8: Crowds much stronger today than either of the first item.

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Speaker 1: Still seems like half of them waiting to get in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of people in the in that in

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Speaker 9: that uh.

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, guys are checking out all the activations.

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Speaker 8: I just think there's a lot of people up there.

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Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's being held back.

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Speaker 1: No, you're right. I think there's a blood drive going.

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Speaker 1: There might be people lined up for the blood drive.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of just some hard activations things for

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Speaker 7: the kids.

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Speaker 9: I'm willing to bleed for this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I give my blood for the.

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Speaker 7: New Joe backflip the crowd, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, you know?

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Speaker 4: Can I can I point out one quick, little funny

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Speaker 4: theme I've been picking up here over the course of

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Speaker 4: the ot as in camp is that is guys trying

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Speaker 4: different stuff like offensive lineman hopping and catching a punt

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Speaker 4: or you know, sometimes you just have the quarterbacks they're

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Speaker 4: running screenplays to themselves. There's just a lot of like

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Speaker 4: guys hopping into things occasion and doing drills that they

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Speaker 4: normally wouldn't be part of.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's part of the fun. Hey,

666
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Speaker 1: you try it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess there's probably some value and as

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Speaker 4: a quarterback running the route of a screen and you

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Speaker 4: know kind of you know, doing it yourself and understanding

670
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Speaker 4: a little bit about what the receiver is going to

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Speaker 4: be going through in that situation.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, just something that keeps poppular. It

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Speaker 1: did have a little fun yeah fun.

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Speaker 6: Did someone say today during the press conference that Marcus

675
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Speaker 6: and Christian Gonzalez were doing wide receiver drills.

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Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, So.

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Speaker 5: That was a question that was that they were doing

678
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Speaker 5: an open field tackling leverage drill. They're not tackling, they're

679
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Speaker 5: just setting up to tackle with the leverage, and all

680
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Speaker 5: the dbs were going through it because on an interception return,

681
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Speaker 5: they have to be ready to carry the football. So

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Speaker 5: they were doing wide receiver drills. They were They always

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Speaker 5: are involved in those types of drills, and that's just

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Speaker 5: so that if they do get a pick, they have

685
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Speaker 5: a feel for the open field and understand what they're.

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Speaker 1: Doing for the reckon. I noticed that yesterday, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't say it because I thought it was just normal

688
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Speaker 1: yeah stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So when the question was asked today, I was like, wait,

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Speaker 7: did I Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that the reporter who asked it was just

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Speaker 1: a little confused. That wasn't I don't want to call anybody.

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Speaker 9: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 8: I don't know who it was, because i'd let you know,

695
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Speaker 8: I'm kidding, all right.

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Speaker 5: The quarterbacks have been doing this thing with the net

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Speaker 5: though since the spring. I think we've shown it before,

698
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Speaker 5: but they they've been keeping score. They said, of well

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Speaker 5: who gets it?

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Speaker 1: Listen? I think you know it's it's you want to

701
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Speaker 1: see the footwork. You want to see them moving, but

702
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Speaker 1: if you're doing throw, it's you've got to be accurate,

703
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Speaker 1: and I think this kind of just enforces that. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Another thing to douce his point about the guy's kind

705
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Speaker 5: of jumping in and having fun with it. Gid Mayo

706
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Speaker 5: said before practice as well that they now have a

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Speaker 5: player's lounge and they have ping pong table. He said,

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Speaker 5: I think he said there's a PlayStation in there, and

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Speaker 5: I actually thought, you know, Paul's shows are probably going

710
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Speaker 5: to make fun of it a little bit, but I

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Speaker 5: actually feel like it's it's a good thing because I

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Speaker 5: agree with exactly what he said, which was that when

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Speaker 5: you walked through the locker room last year, it was

714
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Speaker 5: a lot of guys sitting in their lockers on their phones,

715
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Speaker 5: just dead to the world and just on an island

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Speaker 5: by themselves. And he said that they wanted to create

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Speaker 5: this player's lounge to hopefully get guys to just hang

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Speaker 5: out with each other and have some team camaraderie games.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've been.

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Speaker 5: Able to tour the Celtics facility, the Bruins facility in

721
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Speaker 5: the past, and they have players lounges in their facilities.

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Speaker 1: As well in the NFL. I mean that was part

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Speaker 1: of the survey that went around. The Patriots were behind

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Speaker 1: in those types of you know, creature features.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I can wholeheartedly confirm that I walked through

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Speaker 5: the locker room tomorrow and douce you guys are in

727
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Speaker 5: there as much as me and guys are on their phones.

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Speaker 5: Guys are you know, it was not a what they're

729
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Speaker 5: trying to create with the players lounge, you know, it

730
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Speaker 5: wasn't like that.

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Speaker 1: It did Male say, I stay away from that. I

732
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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 5: He said, it was a you know, someone asked him,

734
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Speaker 5: you know, who's the best ping pong player? And he said, honestly,

735
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Speaker 5: I don't know, because it's the players lond So I

736
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Speaker 5: try to give them that space and not go in there.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Web radio at Patriots dot com is the

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Speaker 1: email address. That's web radio at Patriots dot com. Alex

739
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Speaker 1: writes in with Pepper's coming back, I'm more confident we

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Speaker 1: could continue to run our three three five done defense. However,

741
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Speaker 1: with two big players still wanting contracts, do you think

742
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Speaker 1: it's more vital for running that defense? Who is more

743
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Speaker 1: vital for running that defense? Godshaw or Judon Judah three

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Speaker 1: three five.

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Speaker 5: Like, if we're talking about three three five base Nickel,

746
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Speaker 5: I would actually say probably Godshaw, because you need somebody

747
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Speaker 5: in the middle of the defense that's eating blocks in

748
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Speaker 5: the running game.

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Speaker 9: I think you can just put someone there Juda.

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Speaker 8: I think I agree with Mike that they don't really

751
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Speaker 8: have a guy like Judon.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you're talking about rushing the passer, sure, I

753
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Speaker 5: just think that actually that Jennings might have been a

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Speaker 5: better edgeestter than Judon was. Like Judon a run player, yeah, absolutely,

755
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Speaker 5: But if you're talking about playing they're three street five

756
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Speaker 5: on first down.

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about the seventy five percent of the place

758
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Speaker 8: that Nickel are going to try to move the ball

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Speaker 8: and not running into the middle of the line. If

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Speaker 8: you're running, if it's just a pure run situation, Godshaw

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Speaker 8: by far, like he's the best run stuffing interior defensive

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Speaker 8: lineman they have.

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Speaker 1: But you're not.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and you're probably not rolling out of two three

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Speaker 8: five play on first down. You know, I'm worried more

766
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Speaker 8: about the other two downs.

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Speaker 1: Ruth from the Boston Renegades emails us and wants us

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Speaker 1: to give a shout out, which I will that they're

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Speaker 1: in the championship game again. Nice this weekend Saturday on

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Speaker 1: ESPN two. So the Boston Renegades are our local pro

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Speaker 1: women's professional football.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So they have a dynasty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they talk about dynasties. How many times in a

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Speaker 1: row have they won? Like at least six?

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Speaker 7: I think six?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the past we've flown them out actually

778
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Speaker 1: to their championship game.

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Speaker 6: So you don't actually came out to practice wearing a

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Speaker 6: Boston Renegade shirt.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's cool. So good luck to

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Speaker 1: them this Saturday. It's on ESPN two. If you want

783
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Speaker 1: to catch it, check your local listenings for time. It's

784
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Speaker 1: bustin bust. Check you the local lists.

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Speaker 4: What's the Boston Boston women's sports you know, the Boston

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Speaker 4: women's hockey team, the p WHL Man of the finals.

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Speaker 1: So you know, keep building up.

788
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Speaker 8: Yeah, my Northeastern girl almost carried them to a title.

789
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Speaker 1: There was that Elena Mueller. Elena Mueller.

790
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Speaker 8: She she scored the overtime winner in Game four to

791
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Speaker 8: send it to a deciding fifty game.

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Speaker 1: One of our former webmasters is part of the crew

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Speaker 1: for the hockey team that was correct Faith.

794
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Speaker 7: And Faith also works for the Boston Reggates.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's all together. We brought it off full circle. Okay, yeah,

796
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Speaker 1: Ben and Hershey Pennsylvania, Hershey, Park, Paul, you've been there.

797
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Speaker 1: Take good take, good take. He writes. In Judeon's opinion,

798
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Speaker 1: I want to play here forever. I don't want to

799
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Speaker 1: be traded. I'm unhappy with my contract. I plan on playing.

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Speaker 1: Those opinions are only possible because there is now separation

801
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Speaker 1: of football and business. Judon seems to be happy to

802
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: play for coach Mayo while unhappy with Wolf in the

803
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Speaker 1: front office. This dynamic was impossible for twenty years while

804
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Speaker 1: Belichick was both coach and front office. Previous contract disputes

805
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: will Fork, Mankins, Moss, Welk Or to leave, et cetera,

806
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Speaker 1: may have been easier if they weren't negotiating with their

807
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Speaker 1: head football coach. It's a refreshing change. Kudos to coach

808
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Speaker 1: Mayo and the Craft for having the vision to understand

809
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Speaker 1: the modern NFL. That's what I mean. I think it's

810
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Speaker 1: it's a take. I think it's a take.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think it's actually a pretty good point.

812
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Speaker 4: I mean, the you know, it's just Bill is all

813
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Speaker 4: wrapped into one.

814
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Speaker 1: So anything. You know, it's easy for Girod to just

815
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Speaker 1: be like, hey.

816
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Speaker 4: You can play good cop now yeah, not my job,

817
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: you can, you know. And Elliott what we haven't seen

818
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Speaker 4: or heard from him.

819
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Speaker 9: I mean, what happens if they disagree?

820
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Speaker 1: Oh drat and yep, well, based off like every other team,

821
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Speaker 1: they work it out based.

822
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Speaker 5: Off their release from the organization. Elliot Wolf has final

823
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Speaker 5: say on the roster.

824
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Speaker 8: Correct, So good point, Devin. If they disagree, then we

825
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 8: got a problem. Elliott Wolf is going to make the

826
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Speaker 8: decision and we have problems.

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Speaker 1: But isn't that the same for every team, Paul, Not

828
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Speaker 1: for twenty plus years, but every other team unless you

829
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Speaker 1: have a guy who is like.

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Speaker 9: Not every team has a GM with the final say.

831
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Speaker 1: Somebody has the final say coach, right.

832
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Speaker 9: So there's no disagreement. The coach has say over it.

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Speaker 1: It would be as it could be a disagreement with

834
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Speaker 1: whoever the GM is.

835
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Speaker 7: So okay, right for a good example, who.

836
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Speaker 8: But the coach is the one coaching the players. So

837
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Speaker 8: it's not an issue. If Mayo wants a guy that

838
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Speaker 8: Wolf doesn't, that's an issue.

839
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's an issue either way. I mean,

840
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: it's a disagreement it's not. It may not be the same,

841
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: but you can still have to.

842
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 8: Don't know how they won six titles doing it that

843
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 8: archaic way, but I mean it's amazing.

844
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Speaker 7: So who do you think has respect? Who do you

845
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Speaker 7: think has final say? In like an Ayuk situation, do

846
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 7: you think it's final?

847
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Speaker 1: Say? Is Kyle Shanahan? Okay?

848
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Speaker 4: I mean I I think Paul is right to point

849
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: out the potential flaw in the system. I don't think

850
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: any system any either way you do it, there's potential flaws, right,

851
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: you know. I mean I think Gerond and Elliott have

852
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: been up front of him.

853
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: It's about whoever's making the final decision makes the right decisions.

854
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: That's all. It is.

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Speaker 8: The way that with My problem wasn't that Belichick had

856
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Speaker 8: all the power. My problem was Belichick's decisions, I thought exactly.

857
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Speaker 8: I thought the last five, six, seven years, I think

858
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Speaker 8: that he showed signs of making some poor personnel decisions.

859
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Speaker 8: It wasn't that he had final Like I don't understand

860
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Speaker 8: all of this, like differences in a holdout.

861
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Speaker 1: Okay, look at Joey, look at Alex Korra with the

862
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Red Sox. He's he the players love playing for him. Right,

863
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the final decisions. I think that helps

864
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Speaker 1: him in the.

865
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Speaker 9: Clubhouse because it helped the team.

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not saying that, but I just that's

867
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Speaker 1: not what he's saying. But I'm not That's not what

868
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Speaker 1: the email was saying either.

869
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Speaker 9: He just sounded like he did.

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Speaker 8: I I apologize if that's not what he was saying.

871
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Speaker 1: I thought that's what Maybe I took it the wrong way,

872
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: but I take it that the guys are not unhappy

873
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Speaker 1: with Mayo.

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Speaker 5: What did you say, Mcker commerce, Yeah, it's they can

875
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: play a role of good cop, back cop, right, like

876
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 5: Gerard can be the player's coach, and Elliott can be

877
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Speaker 5: the one that's strict about the contracts and the money.

878
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: And I can see how that can be.

879
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 8: And if you're asking me if the players like Mayle

880
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 8: more than they liked Belichick, I'm going to probably guess

881
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 8: without knowing that ninety nine percent will say yes.

882
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: At least for now.

883
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's good or bad.

884
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: We'll see in six months what they say. Yeah, I

885
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: think I think, at the end of the day, the

886
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: modern athlete, and this is probably not new, I think

887
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: all athletes appreciate it's transparency the modern athlete. Just be

888
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: level with me, tell me what's going on. Don't don't

889
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: screw around with me. I want to know what you

890
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: really feel. So that's if Gerard loses players, that'll be

891
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: how he loses them, if they don't feel like you know,

892
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: my coach is upfront with me.

893
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm but if he was, I thought he

894
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 8: was suggesting this is a much better way to run

895
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 8: an organization in the modern aw Like that's what I

896
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 8: took exception to, not the all the things that he said,

897
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 8: why I think were factual. But I also don't think

898
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 8: that it's I don't really consider like the whole thing

899
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 8: that it was Bill.

900
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: It made it harder to Bill just.

901
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 8: Made decisions, Like I think that he made a good

902
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 8: decision by sort of re upping a lot of the

903
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 8: guys that he did early, like Mike Rabel and Jarvis

904
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 8: Green and Richard Seymour, you know, and you know it

905
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 8: made some bad decisions lately of like reupping Devon Godshaw

906
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 8: last year. Like I heard someone say today that the

907
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 8: amount of guys that they've re signed with a year early,

908
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 8: that never happened in twenty years.

909
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: It just happened last year. They just did it.

910
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 8: Last year with Godshaw, Right, they do it a lot like.

911
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 8: They do that a lot like. My difference is I

912
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: think that they did it with guys that deserved it

913
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 8: in the past, and not necessarily as much in the draft,

914
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 8: which Mike hammers.

915
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 9: The draft, And I totally agree with this point.

916
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 8: They're in the situation they are personnel wise now because

917
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 8: they've had really spotty drafting for much of the last five, six,

918
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 8: seven years.

919
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: Yea.

920
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 5: And they the guys that they're giving contracts to, which

921
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 5: is I think another point we've made. It's mostly second

922
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 5: contracts you're not talking about. You know, at the end

923
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: their bill is giving extensions to Godshaw, DeVante Parker, you know,

924
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 5: guys that are just another one they're going to one.

925
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 8: Like you imagine saying they haven't done that in twenty years.

926
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 8: They just did it twice last year.

927
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 5: Right, just with the wrong guys. One hundred percent agree.

928
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Now.

929
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 5: The only other thing I would say about the whole

930
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 5: power structure is that and mister Crapt has talked about

931
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: this and in the post you know Bill times here,

932
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: there's so.

933
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: Few guys that have earned the right to be.

934
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 5: I agree with that, So it's not frequent around the

935
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 5: league because you're not going to give, you know, for

936
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 5: a Dan Campbell to pre control of the Detroit Lions. Now,

937
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 5: there are some coaches that do have final say because

938
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: they do have that chops. Kyle Shanahan is one of them, and.

939
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 8: Another, but that's those are a few and far between

940
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 8: two because those are great. Those are great scenarios too,

941
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 8: because because I do think that like and I think

942
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 8: Seattle had a similar situation for a lot of years

943
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 8: with Carolyn Schneider. I think it's a great relationship between

944
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 8: Lynch and Shanahan, and I think the same thing with

945
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 8: Kansas City with Reed and uh Like. I just think

946
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 8: that someone has to have the final say, and I'd

947
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 8: rather be the coach. But the ideal situation is not

948
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 8: like one all mighty power like Bill had. That's I

949
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 8: don't think that's the ideal situation. I think that I

950
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 8: think it's better to have two guys, but I think

951
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 8: the coach needs to have more control.

952
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: Now.

953
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 8: I think Mayo will eventually get that. I think right

954
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 8: now he hasn't earned it. He's content ready for that,

955
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 8: He's content to let let the you know, others do that.

956
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: But but I do think that regardless of who has

957
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: the final say, whether it's the fun office as a coach,

958
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: it's important for once the decision is there can be disagreements,

959
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: but once the decision is made that they get on

960
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: the same page so that there's no back door. Hey,

961
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: you know I wanted to sign you, but you know

962
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: so and so you know you can't have that. I

963
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: can't have, right right, Nate from or Nat from Santa

964
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: Cruz by way of Cambridge living in Los Angeles for

965
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: the summer rights In yesterday, Evan said nobody cares about

966
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette with a definitiveposity and ordered on know it

967
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: all territory. I disagree. Some of US fans just want

968
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: to see our team win on Sunday. Call it the

969
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: kid in me or bad investor in me. I don't care.

970
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't even root for the team to lose for

971
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: draft position last year, So yes, I care what Jacoby

972
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Brissette looks like in camp. I hope he's lights out

973
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: the team and they win eleven games in a road

974
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: playoff game. If Jacoby is winning, then let Drake sit.

975
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: I'd rather see Jacoby win games than Drake lose them.

976
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: Regarding Evan, I think he's one of the best in

977
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: the business, an upstanding guy, and an incredible part of

978
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: the modern PU team. So there you go, thank you.

979
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

980
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: I the one point I was just making about Jacoby Brissett,

981
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 5: and I did say it a little bit more pointed

982
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 5: than I meant. But the big thing is is that

983
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: if Jacoby Brissett is going to start the year as

984
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 5: the quarterback, this is our time to watch Drake May

985
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 5: play football. Like we could go two months into the season,

986
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: three months in the season, we don't get to watch

987
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 5: practice during the regular season, so he's going to be

988
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: doing everything at that point behind closed doors. So as

989
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 5: much as Jacoby Brissett might be the starter, and I'm

990
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: not saying that he's irrelevant, I'm just saying that right now,

991
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 5: this time of year is one hundred percent about Drake

992
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: May and what he's doing in these practices because Jacoby

993
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: is going to play in the games, so he's gonna

994
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 5: We're gonna have opportunities to talk about Jacoby Brissett for now.

995
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: This is Drake May show right now, and you can't

996
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: argue with that. I mean, let's face it, they again,

997
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: they drafted this guy third overall to be the future.

998
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.

999
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 8: This was to make this situation a little bit different

1000
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 8: and a little bit tougher navigate for Gerard Mayo in company, because.

1001
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people point to.

1002
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 8: Those Green Bay situations and even Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, like

1003
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 8: in Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers could sit and develop and

1004
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 8: get all of the attention in training camp as a

1005
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 8: rookie because you didn't.

1006
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: Have to worry about what Brett Favre was doing.

1007
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 8: He was there for fifteen years and he's a Hall

1008
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 8: of Famer and he knows what he's doing. The same

1009
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 8: thing when Jordan Love came in and Aaron Rodgers was

1010
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 8: at the tail end of his Packers' career, you didn't

1011
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 8: have to worry about getting out to speed if you

1012
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 8: want to have a semblance of success. Jacoby Brissett needs

1013
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 8: to get a lot of work in this training camp

1014
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 8: and get ready to go with the whole new team.

1015
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 8: I understand he has some familiarity with the offense, but let's.

1016
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: Face it, it's.

1017
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 9: A new offense too, right.

1018
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 8: He's got to refamiliarize himself with an offense that he

1019
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 8: was in two years ago exactly, and you know they

1020
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 8: don't have the luxury of just all development for may

1021
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 8: That's that's a hard needle ofok threat, Drake may is

1022
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 8: not the only pe person you need to evaluate and

1023
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 8: you know on this team, whether it's during training camp

1024
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 8: or once the games start for real, you got to

1025
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 8: see what the rest of your team looks like, you know.

1026
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 9: So that's why it's hard.

1027
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: Yeah to me, this is the in the early stages

1028
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 5: of this era with Mayo. This is going to be

1029
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 5: the hardest thing he's going to have to navigate because

1030
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: when we get into the season, if they're zero and two,

1031
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 5: they're one and four. Every single Wednesday when we see

1032
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: him for the first time to start the new week,

1033
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 5: when is Drake coming?

1034
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Well, which quarterback operates the team best? You know? Because

1035
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: the rest of that you owe it to the rest

1036
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: of the team to have somebody under center who who

1037
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, you know, and whoever does that

1038
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: best should play.

1039
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 5: And that's part of the reason why I feel maybe

1040
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 5: a little bit more strongly about him starting early or

1041
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 5: starting week one, because I don't want that distraction lingering

1042
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 5: all over the team for eight weeks that behind closed doors,

1043
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 5: all these reporters that we work with, they're all gonna

1044
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 5: be trying to figure out how.

1045
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: Drake May looks at practice.

1046
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 5: They're all gonna be having conversations with players and off

1047
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 5: to the side things like that, trying to dig up

1048
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: you know what's he looked like behind the scenes, and

1049
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be this whole elephant hanging over the

1050
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 5: entire team until it's Drake May's team, including a first

1051
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 5: year head coach who's never done it before that's now

1052
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 5: going to have to feel these questions about it. And

1053
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 5: as much as he was more experienced in it, I

1054
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 5: there were mistakes made by by Belichick when it came

1055
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 5: to the mac Jones in this whole situation with Bailey Zappy,

1056
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 5: and it's kind of similar. It's not exactly the same,

1057
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 5: but it's kind of similar where we would go into

1058
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 5: the week not knowing who the starting quarterback was and

1059
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: it was crazy, yeah.

1060
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 7: And the team didn't even know it was. We didn't

1061
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 7: know that, And.

1062
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 5: They're not gonna I don't think he's gonna publicly come

1063
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: out and say we're going with Jakobe through six weeks.

1064
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: So we're going through Jacoba through eight weeks. So it's

1065
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: gonna be.

1066
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: Every single week that they're gonna have this this conversation

1067
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 5: about you know what is it time for Drake and

1068
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 5: it's gonna go until he plays.

1069
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: How do you.

1070
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 6: Figure out though, like from an owner's perspective, Like you

1071
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 6: hear Robert Kraft talking about how he wants his team

1072
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 6: to get back in the playoffs and win a playoff game.

1073
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: How do you do that without like how do you

1074
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 6: do that and develop your quarterback at the same time,

1075
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 6: Because it's like, you want to start Jacoby Brissett so

1076
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: that you can win some games to get to the playoffs,

1077
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 6: as you know, Robert Kraft wants us to get back there,

1078
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 6: but then also you need to develop your quarterback of

1079
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: the future too.

1080
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like what if.

1081
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 6: You do start off you know, six and one, do

1082
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 6: you want to put him in or do you want

1083
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 6: to try to get to the playoffs?

1084
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: When was then you do time? Robert Kraft said that

1085
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: that was two years. Yeah, he'd say he didn't say it.

1086
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, this offseason the Matra and Mao said it the

1087
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 5: other day on Tuesday. Is more about foundation, Like let's

1088
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 5: lay a solid foundation in year one. I don't think

1089
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 5: he's expecting playoffs or anything like.

1090
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: That as of right now.

1091
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: But it's just it's gonna be something that's gonna hang

1092
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 5: over the team until they turn it over to Drake,

1093
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 5: of whether or not they're making the right decision to

1094
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 5: sit in you know, white whatever. And the one example

1095
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 5: I can think of where a team had some success

1096
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: and then they changed quarterbacks with Miami into it. You know,

1097
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick had them playing okay, plus five hundred football and

1098
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 5: they had a plan and they stuck to it and

1099
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 5: they went to Tua regardless of and at the time.

1100
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 8: And contrary to popular opinion, they continued to play plus

1101
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 8: five hundred football.

1102
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: At the time though. But there was there was some

1103
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: hostility at the time.

1104
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, there was some veterans. There was some veterans that

1105
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 9: were unhappy.

1106
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and didn't they didn't to play BA at

1107
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 6: one point, and they put Fitzpatrick back in.

1108
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 8: At the end of He got yanked in a game

1109
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 8: I believe in Denver and got hurt in the game

1110
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 8: against San Francisco. I might have that backwards, but yes, yes,

1111
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 8: but he came in and won some games. Now, he

1112
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 8: wasn't responsible for them winning games.

1113
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeap.

1114
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 8: He didn't play all that well in some of those

1115
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 8: games that they won, but they had planned. They had

1116
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 8: a plan, like they wanted to get him, and they

1117
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 8: didn't really care if they were you know, if they

1118
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 8: were going to go nine and eight make the playoffs,

1119
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 8: or go eight to nine and not make the playoffs.

1120
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 8: It didn't that was secondary to them getting the quarterback

1121
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 8: red and I think that's the case here.

1122
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: I would imagine.

1123
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, And there's a lot of baggage with the Brian

1124
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 5: Forlorn situation that's unrelated to that, But at the time,

1125
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 5: it definitely was something that a lot of the veterans

1126
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 5: in the locker room in Miami were questioning playing well

1127
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: or winning with Fitzpatrick. You know why, I'd understand you

1128
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 5: drafted this guy. It's a tough threat, Yeah, exactly.

1129
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: Tenant Las Vegas rights and Drake May seems to have

1130
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: all the attributes to become an elite quarterback size, arm strength, intelligence,

1131
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: thank you Giants, and hard Knot's running ability, work ethic.

1132
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: When I read or hears some pundit's question is potential.

1133
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: Their criticism seems to be based on his lack of

1134
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: extensive college experience, a radic second year performance and his

1135
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: bad footwork and accuracy. What do you think could hold

1136
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: may back from becoming very good or even a league

1137
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: too many interceptions, in ability to read defenses, and ability

1138
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: to handle the faster speed. Yea, he lists a whole

1139
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: bunch of.

1140
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 8: Decision making process. He don't know about how he's going

1141
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 8: to process.

1142
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like it's to me, it's it's more

1143
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: and it's I guess it's kind of semantics, but like

1144
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 5: it's like work ethic, right, Like it's is he is

1145
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: he going to put in the time to master those

1146
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: types of things that you guys are talking about, Because

1147
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 5: it's not going to be that he's throwing picks because

1148
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 5: he's short army throws and he can't get the ball there.

1149
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 5: It's going to be because he's not reading defense as well.

1150
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 5: And I thought about this yesterday and Patrick Mahomes was

1151
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 5: on something maybe a while ago now, and he said

1152
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 5: that his first year as the starter, not his rookie year,

1153
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 5: but his second year in the league, he still didn't

1154
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 5: know how to read defenses properly. He still didn't know

1155
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: how to do it, and he won m VP of

1156
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 5: the league.

1157
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 8: That's getting added to my list right, if you played

1158
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 8: him his first year, he would have known how to

1159
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 8: say defense.

1160
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: That we talk about and always keeping receipts.

1161
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 5: Maybe we overblow some of that stuff a little bit

1162
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 5: because if you have look, he's not gonna have Patrick

1163
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 5: Mahomes level physical talent, but if you have the physical talent,

1164
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: then you can just kind of go out there and

1165
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 5: play football. And a lot of these guys just survive

1166
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: on that, and maybe Drake is one of those types

1167
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 5: of guys.

1168
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: I think.

1169
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: I think there's another element too that's just an intangible

1170
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: and it's when the pressure's on, when you need that drive,

1171
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: time's running out, are you at your best?

1172
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Are you? I mean?

1173
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: And that's what made Tom Brady just so special was that,

1174
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 4: regardless of physical talent or processing, when the game was

1175
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: on the line many many, many more times than not,

1176
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: he was going to put you in position to win.

1177
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 4: And that's just something that there's no way to really measure.

1178
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: There's no way to know. I mean, even with Mac,

1179
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 4: how many you know game winning and we talked about

1180
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 4: it all the time. You can't come back once they're down,

1181
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: it's it's kind of over. So you know, just would

1182
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 4: love to see him even if he's had an up

1183
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: and down kind of day and you're not feeling like

1184
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 4: but it comes down to the end and he's on

1185
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 4: when it counts, Like, that's worth a lot.

1186
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was getting at too. It's like,

1187
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 5: to me, it's not about is he going to be

1188
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 5: able to read a defense? Like he'll learn how to

1189
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 5: read defenses. It's gonna be the intent is he is

1190
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: his work ethic behind the scenes. One of her needs?

1191
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Is he a leader?

1192
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 5: Like the last guy here was not somebody that people

1193
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 5: were following, right, So like, is he gonna be one

1194
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 5: of those types of guys that does all those things

1195
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 5: that made Brady great, you know?

1196
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: And he does that at a high level. Yeah, Brad.

1197
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: In the Eastern Shore right sin Web Radio at Patriots

1198
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,959
Speaker 1: dot Com, I noticed that Godshaw is wearing a red

1199
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: sweatshirt under his uniform, just like Judon. Are they showing

1200
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: solidarity together or is he riding Judon's coattails trying to

1201
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: get noticed for an extension. I would give jude On

1202
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: an extension, but I do not see the need to

1203
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: give Godshaw a big extension. Strong and fast is replacing

1204
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: big and slow. Today's NFL also, who is eighty two

1205
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: on offense appears to be a wide receiver. The number

1206
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: is not on the website's list of players. Jackson, Why

1207
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: is he not on the website. He's on the website.

1208
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 9: It's on the roster.

1209
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gota have worn the red sieves before, so I

1210
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 5: would actually say that it's it's probably him taking a

1211
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 5: page out of Judeon's book. Judah likes to do it

1212
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 5: to get the sweat on and he just likes the

1213
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: feel of it. Maybe, so maybe gotcha tried it out

1214
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: one day and decide.

1215
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: If you liked it too. So you'll notice that you're

1216
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: looking at us instead of the field. That we have

1217
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: to turn our cameras for this portion of training camp,

1218
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: so we'll do our best to let you know what

1219
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: we're seeing.

1220
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 8: At the top of the you know, the show, we

1221
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 8: talked about the attendance. Just to clean a little thing up.

1222
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 8: Barmore and Mop who were two guys that we did

1223
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 8: not see. About a half hour into practice, they both

1224
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 8: came out. They don't do not look like they're doing

1225
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 8: much of anything. I don't know if you guys have

1226
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 8: they just watching their positions, but they are both out here.

1227
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 9: No helmets on for either one of them that I've seen.

1228
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 8: I know mop who didn't have one on when I

1229
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 8: was watching him. Barbo is kind of down the other

1230
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 8: end of the field now, so he's just kind of

1231
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 8: doing that Barmore the Barmore shimming, just like they're just.

1232
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 5: Kind of mentally picking in practice.

1233
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 8: So they clearly are dealing with some you know, I

1234
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 8: know what Barmore's talked about and ill miss of some sort.

1235
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 9: I don't know what moblu situation is.

1236
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: I love that saying he's dealing with something. Don't you

1237
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 4: feel like every day in your life you're dealing with something?

1238
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Will it teach you?

1239
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 7: I will say too. With Gotscha yesterday he didn't have

1240
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 7: a helmet with him. Did he today he actually does.

1241
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been doing a little bit.

1242
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, he has been doing a little bit.

1243
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 5: Check down City, I have a hitch and a little

1244
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 5: checkdown to the tight end Mitchell Wilcox, who's been pretty involved,

1245
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 5: I would say more than I I thought he would be.

1246
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 4: It's the latest in a long line of why or

1247
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: tight ends you can't remember to wear eighty seven?

1248
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's also that's another one, like maybe like that's

1249
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 5: above thirty two for me, take eighty seven out of

1250
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: the rotation, please, Yeah, but you.

1251
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Know eighty seven took himself out of the rotation'd when

1252
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: he went to Tampa Bay.

1253
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 9: It's one thing I really love about Fred.

1254
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the greatest, the greatest tight end of all time.

1255
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: That's a right, we're.

1256
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 9: Going down guy.

1257
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: That is tight Cole rag that's Brissette going deep to

1258
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Rager. Coverage.

1259
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 5: Jones has just been strapping people in these practices.

1260
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: If you know, we know Jones has speed, and you

1261
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: know it's tough to gauge really how good a cornerback

1262
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: he is. But I think he has a role when

1263
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: you play those speedy receivers like the Miami.

1264
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 8: Dolphins, where he has to play where he's helped.

1265
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: He's the guy making sure that after the catch there's

1266
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: no yards.

1267
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 8: And he did open last season he was part of

1268
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 8: the you know, he was part of the package and

1269
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 8: he got hurt right away unfortunately. But he's going to

1270
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 8: have to be a member of that secondary.

1271
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: No doubt.

1272
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 5: He's he's been excellent, I would say through these first

1273
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 5: two practices. I mean he's he's been in great coverage

1274
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 5: multiple times on guys past breakups everything.

1275
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta be honest, when I watched him

1276
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: like his college stuff, and I haven't seen it really translate,

1277
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: but I just thought he was excellent at man coverage

1278
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 4: and sticking with guys. He's always going to be kind

1279
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: of underside, but he's quick. He just had a knack

1280
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: for getting right, you know, at the catch point. He's

1281
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: got that closing kind of burst and that's this is

1282
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: the first time really honestly, and in what this is

1283
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: the third training camp. I know he was limited a

1284
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 4: little bit, I think in the first one, but this

1285
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 4: is the first time I'm seeing it kind of pop

1286
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 4: up a little bit.

1287
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: It's just he's you know, the size is always.

1288
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: Going to be an issue, but I think if you

1289
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: can manage that, uh you know, he's he's he's he

1290
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 4: can move.

1291
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: Just you know, and he's.

1292
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 8: But like that's three reps now, he's been outside too,

1293
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 8: like they I you know, I'm not not positive what

1294
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 8: they're working on in terms of their package right now,

1295
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 8: Like who's you know.

1296
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: The you can't say say anyway, Yeah, yeah, he played

1297
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: a little bit on the outside yesterday too.

1298
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they're definitely getting him ready to play ball.

1299
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: Spots.

1300
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 5: And to Fred's point, it's gonna have to you know,

1301
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 5: be match up based, right, You're not going to put

1302
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 5: him out there like they have to a few years

1303
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: ago when he was covering t Higgins and stuff like that.

1304
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 8: But I'm just like, right, it's it's the same three

1305
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 8: corners that we saw for the most part yesterday, Gonzales,

1306
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 8: Jonathan Jones, and Marcus Jones. But Jonathan Jones has been

1307
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 8: inside and Marcus Jones has been outside.

1308
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw some this little bit of seven on seven.

1309
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1310
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 4: I caught a little a Gonzo Gonzo on the slot

1311
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: yesterday too, So I mean, I guess they're trying to

1312
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: give everybody a little That's why I.

1313
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 8: Said it might just be personnel based on what the

1314
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 8: what the offense has given them. It's not necessarily and

1315
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

1316
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, speaking of Gonzo, how do you think

1317
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: he's looked so far? Okay?

1318
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 5: I I do feel like he's still getting his sea

1319
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 5: legs a little bit in terms of just breaking on

1320
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 5: the ball and kind of route pacing things like that.

1321
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 5: I mean, he's he let up a couple of catches

1322
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 5: in front of him yesterday. The tay went to Taekwon

1323
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 5: went to Jalen Polk, but he's he looks great every

1324
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 5: time you watch a movie, a little bits such a

1325
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 5: fluid after Yeah, you just I do think that he's

1326
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 5: starting trying to get the timing back a little bit.

1327
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 8: I saw him yesterday just kind of start juggling.

1328
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: Oh uh, your boy.

1329
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 8: Mitchell Wilcox ran unabated down down this, down the numbers,

1330
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 8: and uh, unfortunately May did not look in that direction.

1331
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: There's why open we mentioned yesterday.

1332
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 8: By the way, on the other field with the second group,

1333
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 8: Milton scat Milton went before Zappi. Zappi went first today.

1334
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 8: Oh over There so.

1335
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: So little development there.

1336
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: That's probably gonna be a day to day back to

1337
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 5: split up the reps, I would think, because the third

1338
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 5: quarterback is inherently going to get more reps probably than

1339
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 5: the fourth quarterback, so you'd be able to get each

1340
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 5: one of them more kind of alternate the days. Shallow

1341
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 5: Crosser to Hunter Henry, who.

1342
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 8: Has jumped off side Hunter Henry.

1343
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: Hunter, Floyd writes in Evan, don't apologize, Uh, Evan Lazar

1344
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: who cares about Jacoby Brissett. Floyd says, Amen, brother, don't

1345
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: drink man.

1346
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a that's a totality issue.

1347
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 9: Believe me, I feel your pain. I go there a lot.

1348
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily mean it to sound the way it sounds,

1349
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 8: and I and I get myself in trouble by the

1350
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 8: way it comes out.

1351
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Drake may still taking snaps.

1352
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're sending blitz without any off like goes and

1353
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 5: then just stops.

1354
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: Well good let him you know, see the pressure.

1355
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, see see the pressure.

1356
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: That is that is going to happen, So you better

1357
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: be ready. I think another thing to kind of be

1358
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: watching for.

1359
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: I haven't seen much of it yet, but some of

1360
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: the team periods last couple of years felt like Steve

1361
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 4: Belichick was like going crazy, spinning the dial, sending blitzes

1362
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 4: and can't you know, just going Yeah.

1363
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 9: A lot of that in the first three days. I'll

1364
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 9: tell you that they had.

1365
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: Seen Jude on flash back there.

1366
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 8: They had one of the plays yesterday down it was

1367
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 8: like a corner blitz out of the slot. I think

1368
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 8: it was bledsoe, there's a good pass down the middle.

1369
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: Five. A lot of empty here, a lot of tight

1370
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: end with Kobe Brissett like that one. He comes up,

1371
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: gives him a high five.

1372
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 9: He jumped you know, kind of jumped on his back

1373
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 9: a little bit.

1374
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't don't hurt him.

1375
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 9: Don't even look at I don't.

1376
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: Even look at it.

1377
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 5: It's just a nice route. Looks like a play, right,

1378
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 5: there's a little skinny post. You don't think so you.

1379
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: Guys know what you speak, Paul. That looked like a play. Yeah,

1380
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: the timing has been right, drop down, boom, get rid

1381
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: of it.

1382
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 8: Well, that forty five couldn't hold on.

1383
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: That was nice was going on.

1384
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 8: I haven't really clocked the left field.

1385
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell.

1386
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 5: You, Mitchell Wilcox was opened up to see him on

1387
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 5: that first wrap that Drake May took. Between these two quarterbacks,

1388
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 5: there's a whole lot of.

1389
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: Don't yeah, check down some well cross and stuff.

1390
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 8: So you had talked about, Evan, that's a lot of

1391
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 8: the Alex Van Pelt system is early that there's a

1392
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 8: lot of sort of yeah, take the easy money and

1393
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 8: sort of get yourself in advantageous situations. I wonder if

1394
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 8: that's just what they're doing right now they're working on

1395
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 8: some of those plays. Yeah, I mean, the ball is

1396
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,479
Speaker 8: Fred's right, Fred's right, the ball's coming out pretty Yeah.

1397
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: You know, when they get into the like their gun

1398
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 5: package is just traditional West Coast, So we're timing routes,

1399
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 5: you're trying to get the ball out quickly and create

1400
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 5: yards after the catch. That that element of their offense

1401
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 5: is not it's not a deep ball type of offense.

1402
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 5: It's their early down offense that you get a lot

1403
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 5: of the deep throws off the play action and stuff

1404
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 5: like that. But when they get into this type of

1405
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 5: look you know, gun uh spread the field, that that's

1406
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 5: gonna be quick game, that's gonna be empty, Like it's

1407
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 5: gonna it's gonna be standard, you know, Bill Walsh, West

1408
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 5: Coats Like it's not. It's not a bombs away type

1409
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 5: of thing.

1410
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: I would be interested though, to know what's going through

1411
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: Drake May's mind, at least in the last two or

1412
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: three plays, because on each of them he had that

1413
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: half pump, So like, is that something you're just doing?

1414
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: Are you thinking of going a different place? Uh?

1415
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 4: Like yes, I guess so if it's.

1416
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: The former, you got to get rid of that.

1417
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know if he's you know,

1418
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: just to on a positive note, like he could be

1419
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 5: trying to hold a defenders.

1420
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: You know, That's why I said I'd like to know

1421
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: what's going through his mind. Yeah, yeah, I thought it

1422
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: was pretty good.

1423
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, not not really dynamic down the field,

1424
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: but but pretty good in timing a couple of connections

1425
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: with Hunter Henry here, yep, I'd be curious, like what

1426
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 4: would Hunter Henry's honest like assessment be, Like, just what's

1427
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: the difference have you seen between what you were getting

1428
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: with Mac Jones?

1429
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: But you know how he tows the ball. I mean,

1430
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: you never get the real answer, but and well no,

1431
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: but but he would be a good guy to ask

1432
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: because he liked Mac Jells. They were you know, they

1433
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: were you know, you.

1434
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 4: Just wonder, like with Max part of the gang, Yeah,

1435
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 4: I mean with Mac, it seemed like he was what

1436
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 4: I think I saw a stat that he like, I

1437
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 4: don't know if you lead the league in lack of

1438
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: yards after catch, but it was like his average yard

1439
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: Like he's basically a catch and fall.

1440
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: Down tight end with Mac. I just wonder maybe with

1441
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: with Drake if.

1442
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 4: If it makes any difference, if he's got any more

1443
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 4: juice after the catch with him?

1444
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean one of the things that they'll

1445
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: have to coach these players on, you know, when May

1446
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: gets in there is the play is not over, you know,

1447
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: be ready for him to extend play, so don't give

1448
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: up on the play. Always be aware of what's going

1449
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: on back there. Yeah.

1450
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was a good line of question.

1451
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 5: I think it was Phil Perry who asked Mayo about

1452
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 5: how do the coaches feel about him running? About Drake

1453
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 5: may running, And I thought that was a good question

1454
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 5: because we've heard it time and time again, whether it's Baltimore, Buffalo,

1455
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 5: that these coaching staffs try to rein it in with

1456
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks running as much as possible. But at the

1457
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 5: same time, that's kind of their superpower is their athleticism.

1458
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 5: So it's like, if you rain it in too much,

1459
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 5: then now you're asking him to do things that he's

1460
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 5: not good at.

1461
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: So I heard Anthony Richardson saying, you know, I'm not

1462
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: going to stop running. Yeah, that's he said, exactly what,

1463
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: That's my superpower, right, So that's tough.

1464
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: And that's one thing that in practice necessarily going to

1465
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 5: see is the off script stuff like when he extends

1466
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 5: plays with his legs and rolls out and gets out

1467
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 5: on the perimeter and makes throws down the field. That's

1468
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 5: such a big part of his game that we're just

1469
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 5: not going to see gotchas.

1470
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 8: On the eleven and eleven, Yeah, which I think is

1471
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 8: a good a good sign.

1472
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: You got the right tackle. Paul Shad from Schenectady, did

1473
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: I get it? Chaff of Schenectady has a little defense

1474
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: of Barth Evan. He says he just wanted to point

1475
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: out that when the news broke about Douglas working through

1476
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: an injury, Barth walked back his theory about them hiding him.

1477
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: Come on, Evan, don't throw your boy under the bus.

1478
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm always going to throw my boy under the bus.

1479
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 7: Is that Calvin flipped?

1480
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 8: I think Wallace is at left tackle and Cheops is right,

1481
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 8: and there it is and there it is.

1482
01:05:54,280 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, defense had a read on that album pass

1483
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: broken up. Not a long pass either. Two guys converged

1484
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: on that pass by Bursett.

1485
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 5: We talked about this yesterday on Cash twenty two also,

1486
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 5: and Mayo got asked a few questions about to rotating

1487
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 5: the offensive line and how much you really at what

1488
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 5: point do you want to roll with five guys and

1489
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 5: show as possibility?

1490
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: And I got it.

1491
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 5: I don't really care for all the rotating they've been doing,

1492
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 5: you know, I think at some point you got to

1493
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 5: stick to five guys. I mean, I know we're not

1494
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 5: in pads yet, so I'm trying to be It's it's

1495
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 5: funny with it.

1496
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 4: It's funny because for this being you know, the differences

1497
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 4: that we've observed, Like I almost feel like it was

1498
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 4: a little bit easier to get a bead on some

1499
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: of the depth chart with bills practices than I have.

1500
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: This one.

1501
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 4: Feels like it's been a lot of random randomness with

1502
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 4: some of the you know, second level guys.

1503
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1504
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I'd rather them do all this shuffling now

1505
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 6: and figure this out versus trying to figure this out.

1506
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: For sure, absolutely try all.

1507
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 7: The different combos.

1508
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 6: Especially, I feel like after a week of pads, you

1509
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 6: should know who your best fight is.

1510
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: The question is how do you determine that unless it's live,

1511
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: unless the defense is going.

1512
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 7: On, maybe the dirt practice will be like their their

1513
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 7: key moment.

1514
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: When I know we talked about that earlier. You know

1515
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: how much more important that one day of joint practice

1516
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: might be this year compared to other years because there's

1517
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: so many questions. I just can't get that extending the

1518
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: play on the run in almost throwing a pick. Should

1519
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: have been a pick right in the hands of who

1520
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: was that they couldn't hold on to it, So he

1521
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: should do push ups for Trump. I'm serious. He should

1522
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: have caught that.

1523
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 8: And just like to just sort of talk a little

1524
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 8: bit about the play itself. That play was by design.

1525
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 8: It was a hard play action with the boot and

1526
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 8: the thrower is on the run and unfortunately, I'm not

1527
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 8: sure he saw Bentley underneath and really had perfect coverage

1528
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 8: on the play.

1529
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: Probably should have had it picked.

1530
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're really struggling to get these boots blocked, like

1531
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: they just they're leaving the edges unblocked and guys are

1532
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,919
Speaker 5: just coming through unblocked, and it's just causing problems for Bersette.

1533
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 5: There's been a couple of times now where they've they

1534
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 5: haven't really picked it up, or haven't gotten the edge

1535
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 5: to bite on the fake, you know, those types of

1536
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 5: things that that's the one thing about this scheme I

1537
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 5: don't particularly love. And so Mitchell Wilcox is being asked

1538
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 5: to block Matthew Judon in past protection and it's just

1539
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 5: the way that the formation is designed that happens a lot,

1540
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 5: and that is not a matchup that they are going

1541
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 5: to win.

1542
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 8: So I'm also going to say, like, given the concerns

1543
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 8: we have on the offensive line, there's a lot of

1544
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 8: plays where they're asking the quarterback to turn his back

1545
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 8: to the rush, and yeah.

1546
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 9: That's a play right there.

1547
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 8: As soon as Perset turns around his gut, nothing but

1548
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 8: a face full of Matthew Judon coming coming right at him.

1549
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 9: So to Evan's point, I'm not.

1550
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 8: Sure the personnel is necessarily the best fit right right

1551
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 8: now for what they're trying to do.

1552
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder if maybe the counter sort of the

1553
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 5: fix is that instead of the full boot you start

1554
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 5: to run maybe more half boots, so you're not getting

1555
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 5: the quarterback quite as far outside the pocket and widening

1556
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 5: the pocket as much as you would in a full

1557
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 5: boot leg, but you're still getting the same action. You're

1558
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 5: still get you know, creating the same displacement in the

1559
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 5: defense or similar. So maybe they could do something like

1560
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 5: that to kind of work around it.

1561
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: Here's an email I don't necessarily agree with, Todd writes

1562
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: in Drake looks so much like a kid still without

1563
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: definition and gangly. I really would like them to see

1564
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: them highly focused on building up his body. If he's

1565
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: going to use his legs otherwise his throwing we should

1566
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,520
Speaker 1: looks smooth.

1567
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 8: And he does need that. He thinks he does need

1568
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 8: some ball and twenty pounds. I know, but I mean,

1569
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 8: he's not necessarily defined. He's still he looks like an athlete.

1570
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: He's he's just a kid.

1571
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's got time. I wouldn't I wouldn't worry about

1572
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 8: I wouldn't worry about it. He will fill out, yeah,

1573
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 8: but he he does need some bulk on his on

1574
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 8: his frame.

1575
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 5: He's not quite as imposing as his listed height and weight.

1576
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: Right.

1577
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 9: I noticed that. That's all I'm saying.

1578
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 5: Immediately at the at the combine, when I stood next

1579
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 5: to him, I was like, this guy's six four two twenty.

1580
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: I can't really feel sick. I got the two twenty.

1581
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 7: Evan, what's switched your guy? Josh Allen's weight bigger?

1582
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, he's a load.

1583
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 6: Well.

1584
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 7: They were wished his weight when he came in though.

1585
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question, probably like Josh Allen thirty. Yeah. Yeah.

1586
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: On your show yesterday they were talking about hand size,

1587
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: oh gosh, and Drake May's hand side being on the

1588
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: lower end of quarterbacks. That was off of Phil Perry's

1589
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: story fifteenth percentile, which is low.

1590
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but anything above nine is past okay, and he's

1591
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 5: barely over nine.

1592
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned Josh Allen that made me think he's over ten.

1593
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's got some pause. There's the quarterbacks that

1594
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 5: are in the ballpark of where Drake may is that

1595
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 5: have gone.

1596
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1597
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 8: Burrow was famously mocked coming out of college.

1598
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: Having Mahomes doesn't have much bigger hands than that.

1599
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, and now he's being mocked for looking like Eminem.

1600
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 8: I think Mahomes's was bigger, Burrows was small. Just over nine.

1601
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say Sean and Vancouver. I agree with Paul

1602
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: about Belichick no longer making good decisions. This was especially

1603
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: true when it came to the offense since fourteen. It's

1604
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: not like he completely lost it, though. When it came

1605
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: to defense, he always had his a game, picking up

1606
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: Jude On and mastering the first round in twenty twenty

1607
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: three to get Gonzales. I was sure Christian Gonzalez would

1608
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: have been taken in the top ten. Why did Bill

1609
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: make so many head scratching decisions in his last ten

1610
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: seasons with offensive personnel and coaches? Was he stubborn? Did

1611
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: he just fall behind and where the league advanced. You

1612
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: know what, I I know it could be a conspiracy,

1613
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: it could, but I think that his relationship with Brady

1614
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: was such that it's like, all right, Brady, you think

1615
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: you want to do it all on your own, I'm

1616
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: going to focus on the defense.

1617
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1618
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

1619
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 8: I just don't think he has I don't think he

1620
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 8: was quick to adjust to the importance of offense and

1621
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 8: the changes that offenses were making sort of in concert

1622
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 8: with one another.

1623
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: Alex says that we have players families in the YouTube chat.

1624
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: There we go. Supposedly Anthony Jennings's mother is here in

1625
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: the stream. Son. We give Anthony Jennings some love. Absolutely, Yeah,

1626
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 1: good to get him back.

1627
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 8: What a year last year for him.

1628
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 4: You know, I just said up before, but just always

1629
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 4: felt like in Alabama that's what he did. He was

1630
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 4: a stout, stand up edge rush kind of guy. Maybe

1631
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 4: not the most past rush in the you know, pass

1632
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 4: rush juice in the league, but uh, last year he

1633
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 4: was outstanding on the edge, set in the edge. Watching

1634
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 4: some early practice though, I mean it's it's been a

1635
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 4: lot of key on White. I feel like they're really

1636
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 4: getting a look at key On White with that top group,

1637
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 4: you know, opposite Judawn standing up, and I, you know,

1638
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 4: I wonder what that rotation is going to look like.

1639
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 4: With Jennings, I have not seen him out there much.

1640
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 4: Have you seen much from him? I'm not going to

1641
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: run stuff yesterday that.

1642
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: Was it though.

1643
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 5: It's just okay, But I just feel like it's with

1644
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 5: Keon White. I still feel like he's a ball of

1645
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 5: clay and I'm not really sure what he is.

1646
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: Thank you somebody fell that juju. Yeah, thank you for

1647
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: that deuce, because I was thinking the exact same thing

1648
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: with Keon White. Everybody thinks this guy is going to

1649
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: be a monster. He looks like I think we've yet

1650
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: to figure out a monster at what Yeah, well, I

1651
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: think that's uh.

1652
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 4: I think right now, what they're trying to what I'm

1653
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 4: reading in is that can this guy play outside line?

1654
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 4: Can he stand up for us and be you know,

1655
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: kind of what Judon is? I mean that's what it's

1656
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 4: to do that I no, no, I mean that's you know,

1657
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 4: he doesn't really have much wiggle. I do think he

1658
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: has surprising light feet, and he's pretty uh, you know,

1659
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 4: has some good change of direction. But I think he's

1660
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 4: going to be a power rusher, whereas you know Judon's

1661
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 4: got He's an experienced veteran.

1662
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Juden's got some some savvy to it. So who made

1663
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: that catch?

1664
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 5: kJ Osborne, good catch by the way, r PO screen. Yeah,

1665
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 5: this eleven period for both quarterbacks has been awful. Yeah,

1666
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 5: just just to throw that out there, it's just been terrible.

1667
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 5: I mean, Gonzales pass breakup almost picked by Juwan Bentley,

1668
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 5: Matthew Judon sack essentially a five yard completion on a

1669
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 5: hitch to Remandre. Then we have another I don't even

1670
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 5: know what that throw was that he threw off that

1671
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 5: bout leg wobbler from Drake May almost picked the Juju

1672
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 5: falls down on the route.

1673
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: Like this is this has been.

1674
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 4: Well, It's like the people who thought yesterday was such

1675
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 4: a disaster where we got to go today.

1676
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 8: So the offensive line situation to me is there's a

1677
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 8: there's a lot of mixing and matching today. The first

1678
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 8: couple of days when you would stay out there at

1679
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 8: the right guard spot while the second group came in.

1680
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 8: Today he did the same thing. But there's been other

1681
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 8: guys like Kayden Wallace stayed with him. Chukes has been

1682
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 8: out there a little bit with this group, and then

1683
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 8: there's been other guys, you know, like Leverett has been

1684
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 8: sort of in there, Michael Jordan has been in there.

1685
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 8: So they're doing a lot of mixing and matching with

1686
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 8: these personnel groups. I that that line that Mayo had

1687
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 8: on Tuesday about finding the best five, I think is

1688
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 8: sort of like illustrated in how much they've been just

1689
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 8: rotating and trying to.

1690
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 9: Figure that out.

1691
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: And I think the kind of what you know Tamara

1692
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: was saying is is can they settle on at least

1693
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 1: what they like for right now so that you can

1694
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: develop some continuity, because through these last two days of

1695
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: practice it's been hard for them to really get any momentum.

1696
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 6: Go Yeah, I think it's going to be hard to

1697
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 6: build chemistry in an offensive line and for the quarterback

1698
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 6: to feel comfortable playing behind that offensive line if it's

1699
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 6: a different five every single week going into week one.

1700
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: So I hope, realistically, yeah, how quickly do you think

1701
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: they can do that?

1702
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 6: I really hope by the end of the joint practice

1703
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 6: they know these are five, Okay.

1704
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: But like, what's that's fair? They should already know who

1705
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: because you'll have a preseason game under your belt, right.

1706
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 5: They should already know, like the most of these guys

1707
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 5: have already played in the NFL. The only guy that

1708
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 5: hasn't played in the league is Caden Wallace that might

1709
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 5: actually factor into this. So it's like, you know, four

1710
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 5: fists of your line is going to be Chukes City,

1711
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 5: So David Andrews Mike on wedding, like, those four guys

1712
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 5: are going to play. So it's really just that right

1713
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 5: tackle spot that's up for grabs, and that's amongst a

1714
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 5: couple of different people. So I'm cool if they want

1715
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 5: to put four fists of it out there and then

1716
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 5: have Calvid Anderson and Vederian Lowe and Caden Wallace and

1717
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 5: those guys, you know, fight it out until the end

1718
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 5: of the summer. But like, why are we shuffling the

1719
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 5: entire thing? You know that that the whole period of

1720
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 5: eleven's was just kind of disaster.

1721
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: I think you should go down after the practice and

1722
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: finger wag somebody. I wish I could. Adrian writes in

1723
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: from Delaware, says it's enjoying the coverage. I have a

1724
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: day off today, so with me being a productive thirty

1725
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: year old millennial guy, I got up at five am

1726
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: to go running and then mow the lawn. Now I'm

1727
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: relaxing while eating delicious watermelon and mixed fruit. One question

1728
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: for offensive enthusiasts, which of our receivers can run the best?

1729
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: Thirty two all coverage from DVOA Post Root Italian with

1730
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: Mayo route concepts. I think he's making fun of Evans.

1731
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 4: I think he is because he just had the everything

1732
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 4: from rolling the lawn and having some fruit.

1733
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: No, not my day. I love.

1734
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 7: I love how he painted the picture of his morning.

1735
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: There you go. No, it's an Evan tribute right there,

1736
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: that's right.

1737
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely was Evan stopped listening very No, somebody ran leak.

1738
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: So what do we have going on in the field

1739
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,600
Speaker 1: right now? This is that old angling drill, middle of

1740
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: the fields tackle pursuit. Still no pads, so yeah, they're

1741
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: not bringing No one's going to the ground.

1742
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 9: They are in shells.

1743
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: Today. You mentioned that we did mention that amped it

1744
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: up a little bit.

1745
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 8: So Evan was not happy with the elevens Now that

1746
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 8: we just saw. It's gonna send a mean tweet.

1747
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 7: I think.

1748
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: Anthony writes in from South Carolina. Any thoughts I'm bringing

1749
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: back Gilmore to solidify our defensive back group. Jesus high

1750
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: highly in favor of that. Uh.

1751
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 8: I just saw White catch the ball and run and

1752
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 8: he actually looked pretty good doing it going against John Ventley.

1753
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny.

1754
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 7: He's a scary guy. I was looking at him yesterday

1755
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 7: after he spoke at the podium and.

1756
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: I was like, Alex writes in I was wrong. It's

1757
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: Terrell Jennings mother in the chat.

1758
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 9: And unfortunately I don't think he's doing a lot today.

1759
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: He's been.

1760
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 8: Uh, I think he's been kind of rehappening a little bit.

1761
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: No, you're Jennings, Yeah he hasn't.

1762
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 9: I don't think he's been.

1763
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 4: Fully healthy then, but you probably don't have to tell

1764
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 4: his mom that she should probab.

1765
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 8: But that's a shame because in all seriousness, that's a

1766
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 8: position that I think opportunity is probably a greater chance

1767
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 8: of one of those lesser known players, you know, making

1768
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 8: an impact.

1769
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: Ye, So missus Jennings tell him to get healthy fast.

1770
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 7: So now we have to keep up with the Joneses, Jenny, too.

1771
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 8: Many at.

1772
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: See here comes somebody walking with as many Joneses as

1773
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: we once did. We lost to of them. Yeah, right

1774
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: from last year, Jack and Mack, Jack and Mac.

1775
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 4: I wonder how Jack Jones doing out there. I don't,

1776
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 4: I do believe unless that's Gibson now. So here he

1777
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: comes Terrell Jennings walking up right now from the lower

1778
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 4: field with one of the coaches or trainers.

1779
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 8: So yeah, his summer is slow start so far getting helpful.

1780
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 9: You're having a hard time reading in the sun, Freddy.

1781
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: What's it listening to you guys?

1782
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 6: Oh?

1783
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so they are changing, well, we have a little

1784
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: bit of a dead period here.

1785
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 9: They're changing.

1786
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: Periods and probably special teams. Now you think maybe, I

1787
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: think they're going to do another team period. Those are

1788
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: always the funnest looks like they're going to riverside? What

1789
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: does that mean, Paul? Switch sides? Why did they call

1790
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: it riverside?

1791
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1792
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: That's an Andy Hart is that that's a specific football term.

1793
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 9: Every coach that I ever had used to say, let's

1794
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 9: just riverside it. Why can't you just tell.

1795
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: Us the switch side?

1796
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 8: It's too many syllables. Iron sharpens iron, That's true. Dan

1797
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 8: Quinn taught Andy that what do we got going on

1798
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 8: over there? With the alignment and some band work to

1799
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 8: tug one resistance span Dante's and.

1800
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: That's where they jump rope. They just do that little

1801
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,719
Speaker 1: double Dutch resistance ban stuff.

1802
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 4: Well, i'd have to I have to get a little

1803
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 4: of that in the and the blogs might some of

1804
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 4: the five hundred words.

1805
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 9: Actually a seven on seven that we're gonna do, uh

1806
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 9: the same time.

1807
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, quick game to Austin Hooper.

1808
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 8: Hoop Hooper starts to drive Hoop?

1809
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: Ain't you watching complete? Actually no, Austin, I'm infatuated with

1810
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: the band work.

1811
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 4: Is this another one? As soon as you take the

1812
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 4: line out, they look okay. Well, I just like everything

1813
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: has been so short.

1814
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they in sevens. They're definitely working click game concepts.

1815
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 5: Oh they did run a double move there and wasn't there?

1816
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 5: kJ Osborne did not run by eight seconds late.

1817
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 7: Marco, Yeah, I was gonna say that were either in

1818
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 7: a sack or tackle in the back.

1819
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: That's a checked out.

1820
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 8: You're looking to do something downfield, it's not there, you

1821
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 8: check it down.

1822
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: Mike.

1823
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've seen enough of that.

1824
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: But do you think that the the what they're telling

1825
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback here is if it's there, throw it or

1826
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: do you think this is a checkdown drill? I know

1827
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: that one.

1828
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 8: They shut up yeah, I think they try to do

1829
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 8: something on that plot. Okay, looked like a double move.

1830
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 5: I do think that when they get into the gun, though,

1831
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 5: that they are trying to get the ball out quickly.

1832
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 5: They're not really looking, you know, running a ton of

1833
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 5: round concepts other than the one we just talked about

1834
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 5: that that would that would not.

1835
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: Have been a pleasant day for kind of custamental traffic.

1836
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 8: And there was one of the was it was it

1837
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 8: Bentley or your boy when somebody was coming from the

1838
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 8: inside and just kind of, you know, did that little

1839
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 8: skip to avoid the contact, all.

1840
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: Right, that would have been ugly. Looked like Bentley to me,

1841
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: But I thought a lot of single dude, Mike, just

1842
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: write a about the single zero to ten. That's all

1843
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 1: you need to know. Really not help you there. Double Alex,

1844
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: double a ju ju. Alex Austen is a guy who

1845
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 1: you know on the something him.

1846
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they call him double as he definitely

1847
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 5: seems like to the third rotational outside corner, where as

1848
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 5: I like to call it the Jason mccordy there you yeah,

1849
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 5: just the you're gonna have Gonzo, You're gonna have John Jones.

1850
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 5: Those are your two primary corners and it's some packages.

1851
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 5: I feel like Alex Austin is going to be that

1852
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 5: that third guy kicked John Jones inside and like Alex

1853
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,480
Speaker 5: Austen played the premiere.

1854
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 9: Make Sean Wade expendable.

1855
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: Oh Wade, I got, I got a nod. I don't

1856
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: know if anybody caught that. I got a little bit

1857
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: of a nod from that.

1858
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 8: Probably didn't want to be guilty of totality issue there,

1859
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 8: so he just gave.

1860
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: Me a nod.

1861
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 5: It's really to me. I don't even know Sean Waye's

1862
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 5: in this mix at this point. Marcella's issle Isaiah Golden

1863
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 5: like if those two younger guys can maybe overtaken. But

1864
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 5: Alex Austin's a young guy too, so it's not like

1865
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 5: he's a you know, going into You're getting old or

1866
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 5: anything like that.

1867
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: He's in your two.

1868
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 7: I only had a good day yesterday, you had, Yeah, So.

1869
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 5: That was an interesting one, like to freend to your

1870
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 5: point earlier about are they just purposely throwing it? You know,

1871
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 5: he had Hunter Henry open coming across the field and

1872
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 5: he kind of looked it off to try to hold

1873
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 5: the safety and then took the shot down the field

1874
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 5: of Jalen Polk was incomplete, was.

1875
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: A little overthrown.

1876
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 8: Would you say I got a glimpse of Yeah, he

1877
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 8: got he got he got a good good position there,

1878
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 8: and I thought he was in position.

1879
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, I got a glimpse.

1880
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1881
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think of hope I do get

1882
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 4: a Jacoby Myers vibe from him, but.

1883
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 8: I don't want to I don't want to overstate I

1884
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 8: would love to get a Jacoby Myers vibe from Yeah.

1885
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 6: I think it would be great for Drake May to

1886
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 6: have that binky like Mac Jones had Jacoby Myers and

1887
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 6: great Drake May has just love that.

1888
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: A little juice.

1889
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 5: He just worry about about the explosiveness, like is he

1890
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 5: gonna as much as Jacoby was reliable, it was never

1891
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 5: it was never dynamic. Yeah that's okay if that's your

1892
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 5: second wide receiver too, as we say, but.

1893
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I mean, that's why I would still have

1894
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 4: hope for Polk to be better than the Myers is

1895
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: just you know, Polk has been a career wide receiver.

1896
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's you know, it took Jacoby a little

1897
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: time to build up to it, coming from you know,

1898
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: quarterback position. To be fair to say, you want pope

1899
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 1: at some point to be at least as good as

1900
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: T Higgins. Well, I think they're different players. Wow, I

1901
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: mean that's.

1902
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, one of the second round picks.

1903
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: Ever, Yeah, I don't. I don't consider T. Higgins elite,

1904
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: but he's really good. He's one of the best. Yeah,

1905
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: he's like, he's a good I.

1906
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 9: Don't know where your cutoff is, but he's really good.

1907
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1908
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I I just it's it's struggle with player

1909
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 4: comps because people immediately say that's what you are. But

1910
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 4: like the style of An Kwon Bolden's game, you know,

1911
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 4: he's got some size. He's probably not you know, I

1912
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 4: mean later in his career, not super fast, but just

1913
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 4: reliable inside and tough and big enough that he can

1914
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: kind of deal, especially in the red zone.

1915
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: It with some of the physicality.

1916
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 8: It's by worry and I love, I love, love love,

1917
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 8: and he's a physical beast. I mean, he's like a

1918
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 8: Pepper's time. I don't like the fact that we're talking

1919
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 8: about a guy coming into the league the way An

1920
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 8: KWin Bolden left the league.

1921
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 9: Andrew Bolden did not come into the league.

1922
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: As a physical beast that was out muscling guys.

1923
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 8: The first game he played as a pro, he set

1924
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 8: a record for like two hundred and whatever amount of

1925
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 8: You know, he was a really good athlete who you know,

1926
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 8: took a lot of wear and tear over the years.

1927
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: I say this a lot.

1928
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 9: Fred Who's the guy Vincent Brisbee?

1929
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 8: I always talk about Vincent Brisbee when guys come out

1930
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 8: of the Mount of College.

1931
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 9: And they were a little iffy in terms of their

1932
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 9: speed and athleticism.

1933
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 8: That's that's hard to overcome because you're gonna you're gonna

1934
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 8: lose a little bit as you go, and if you

1935
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 8: already come in like on the sort of on the

1936
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 8: baseline in terms of the measurables, it's hard to maintain it.

1937
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with wide receivers, I don't care. Always physical,

1938
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: always a fifty to fifty guy. Oh he shipped, what's

1939
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: his production? That's all it comes to. What's the production?

1940
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Does he get over? Does to catch the ball?

1941
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 7: And that was a nice diving catcher there, sure was.

1942
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 5: That's kick white Jackson. But when I like so much

1943
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 5: about that, not to make everything about may that is

1944
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 5: just not a throw that we've seen quarterbacks around here.

1945
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 5: Make like you're going far hash on a ten yard

1946
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 5: you know, comeback route there and he gets it there

1947
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 5: on a rope like that. Those are throws that with

1948
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 5: Matt Jones, we were all like, yeah.

1949
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that people forget. If you're in

1950
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, when you're throwing to the

1951
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: far hash, you're still throwing the ball over twenty five yards.

1952
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: It's still a you immediate throws just going a long distance.

1953
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: That's why so many of them get picked off.

1954
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, he put it, I mean only where Jackson could

1955
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 8: come back to it too.

1956
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good throw. I mean, I know

1957
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: it was a good it was getting there. That's a

1958
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: rookie thing.

1959
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: The ball just came right out of this he wanted

1960
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 4: to like, just like Mahomes, that one almost felt like

1961
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 4: he was with a side arm.

1962
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: So why don't we describe what happened there?

1963
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 5: Well, I actually look at it differently. I guess like

1964
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 5: he just off platformed it all the way out to

1965
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 5: the side of that.

1966
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: It's true he did, But did you see the ball

1967
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 1: He had to trap it against his hip because he

1968
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: lost control.

1969
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean he still got it, pulled it down.

1970
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 5: Like I just feel like those types of throws are

1971
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 5: to me, that's impressive. Like he just he stumbled a

1972
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 5: little bit, like he didn't have his feet under him,

1973
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 5: and the ball still got was catchable or in the area.

1974
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 8: It's a physical play that not a lot of guys

1975
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 8: can make. I don't ever want to see it again.

1976
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 1: But the fair enough. It's like the play.

1977
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 8: It's like the throw that Brady completed from his book.

1978
01:28:59,080 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 7: That's a good one over the middle.

1979
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, great play. Don't ever do it again.

1980
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 5: That's the first time I think I've written Bouty's number down.

1981
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I had earlier. I thought it was

1982
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: sim but then it was Raager. I keep mixing them.

1983
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: Those those guys. Up Emery writes in one of the

1984
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: things I'm most interested in is how the receivers perform

1985
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: with May versus the other quarterbacks. Is Drake May elevating

1986
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: them or not? Have you noticed that at all so far?

1987
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: And could you please try to mention who the quarterback

1988
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: is whenever you remark on a catch.

1989
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 5: No, you can definitely do that second part. It's a

1990
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 5: little early to tell.

1991
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Just such a heavy rotation right now. I mean, it's

1992
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: it's just hard. I would like to have seen him

1993
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: throw that seem just.

1994
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 4: May still came back to check down Baker think may

1995
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 4: just I think that was the last.

1996
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 8: One for me, and we'll do another eleven at this point. Oh,

1997
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 8: we have a quarterback expert in the house.

1998
01:29:54,880 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, Scott Zolac now joining the show.

1999
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: You what you got there?

2000
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: You got a burrito? Nice?

2001
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 9: We got food already.

2002
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 1: They have their own spread ball. Oh nice, it's catered.

2003
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 8: Wait, it's a it's a catered they are it is

2004
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 8: Paul shows though, Does that count?

2005
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: That's one of my.

2006
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 9: Shots, one of my shows.

2007
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: I can use his employee branch over there right, Yeah,

2008
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: uh well it's in my office. Anybody see Dante High

2009
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 1: Tower yesterday?

2010
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 8: Just what a coaching look.

2011
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: He's like the bucket hat on. I was very confused.

2012
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's got the sleeveless.

2013
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 8: Like red wind breaker on with like the bucket hat

2014
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 8: and the glasses.

2015
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: I mean you just look like. I'm like, that's he's

2016
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: got the coach style down.

2017
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 4: I might have to start trackings Gon sleeveless shirts for

2018
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 4: High Tower.

2019
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 7: He's gonna have a catalog all High Tower.

2020
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:54,719
Speaker 1: Guns out today.

2021
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 8: Yes, for High Tower, no sun, but guns were out.

2022
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: David Bethlehem writes in her right for football? Are you

2023
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: seeing much ol coaching? What coaches are doing? What are

2024
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 1: you seeing any coaching or is this just a public

2025
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: exhibition for FASI tryout. There's a lot of coach.

2026
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little hard with the O line because

2027
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 4: they're that down opposite of us. So you know, usually

2028
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 4: it's like a massive humanity of offensive and defensive linemen

2029
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 4: opposite of us.

2030
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 8: And so now this is another whole different offensive line

2031
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 8: that's going to start off this eleven on eleven.

2032
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Oh, this is never mind, I'm on I'm on the

2033
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: different fields.

2034
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 9: I'm on a different field.

2035
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: Never mind. I have talked to some of you.

2036
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 5: We talked to some of the tackles yesterday, Jukes, the

2037
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 5: core for Kadian Wallace and uh or not Kaden Wallace, sorry,

2038
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 5: Calvin Anderson, and they had a lot of good things

2039
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 5: to say about Peters. And that wasn't just at the podium.

2040
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 5: I had to chat with them about it off to

2041
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 5: the side. You're talking, Yeah, and they both those guys

2042
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 5: were really complimentary of what they they've gotten so far

2043
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 5: from a coaching standpoint with Scott Peters.

2044
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 8: So what do you make of the two tackles Wallace

2045
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 8: and Chewkes going with Zappi on the opposite field. Yeah,

2046
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 8: and the rest the rest of the dudes are over

2047
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 8: with Gonzales. That was like Gonzales and Jay Jones in

2048
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 8: the secondary.

2049
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 4: I mean it feels like a little mix up, you know,

2050
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 4: letting the letting the upper echelon offensive guys go against.

2051
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 8: That's why I got confused because I saw enough, yeah,

2052
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 8: regular players on this side, so this is really yeah.

2053
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 8: I mean, I gotta imagine a mix mix of person

2054
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 8: and when you break down the film right here where

2055
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 8: it's like, all right, this is our you know, but

2056
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 8: top offense kind of going against the secondary that's filling

2057
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 8: with guys that are.

2058
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: We don't really know what's going on. So on this field,

2059
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: which is closest to us, where you have a CORPS

2060
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:43,959
Speaker 1: four and Cayden Wallace, maybe they're doing something that tackles

2061
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: play more of a role. Maybe it's it's a defensive

2062
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: centric drill, but maybe it's a good test for the tackles.

2063
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: So maybe they just want to We don't know that.

2064
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 8: They're just waiting on those bootlegs like all day long.

2065
01:32:55,640 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 8: Nobody's so I mean, we can say maybe it's anything, right,

2066
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 8: I have no idea, But like they're running eleven on

2067
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,879
Speaker 8: eleven and they're.

2068
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 9: Mixing and matching the personnel.

2069
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't.

2070
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, Hey, it's Jones, Gonzales and ze Peppers in the secondary.

2071
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 8: So three of the four guys are regular guys with

2072
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 8: Brandon Brandon Schooler.

2073
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2074
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, in simplest of terms, second

2075
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 4: over's first d secondary and over there you're getting a yeah.

2076
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 5: Just interesting about the tackles, Like you have Calvin Anderson

2077
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 5: and Vederian Lowe with the with the ones, and then

2078
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 5: you have Kiddie Wallace and Cheops the core for with

2079
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:37,759
Speaker 5: Bailey Zappy.

2080
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Which one is left over there? Cheops over here? They

2081
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 1: did you sit over there? And I wasn't left on

2082
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: this side wallet and Cheops is on the right. Well

2083
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,200
Speaker 1: it was the first play anyway. I don't know if

2084
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: they switched.

2085
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 8: Joseph in Vietnam, but Anderson's left and low is right

2086
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 8: on the far side.

2087
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: MI, yes, that is correct, Okay. Joseph says I was

2088
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: watching a Belichick interview and he said they used to

2089
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: evaluate players by projecting what they'll play like after their

2090
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: second year jump. He then continues that some players make

2091
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 1: that jump during their first half of their rookie season,

2092
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 1: sometimes during their second training camp, sometimes longer. My question is,

2093
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: who is clearly making their second year jump right now?

2094
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: Did any rookie have their second year jump in their

2095
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: rookie year, last year or any year you can remember?

2096
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

2097
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 8: I mean, they haven't had pads on yet, so I'm

2098
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 8: not gonna talk about second year jumps per se right now.

2099
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 8: Like Mike, Mike has talked about key On White being

2100
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 8: heavily involved in a lot of personnel groups. I think

2101
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 8: he would be a guy that Mayo is singled out

2102
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 8: already in the offseason. Guys, you know, I don't know,

2103
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 8: guys have had really good rookie years.

2104
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: You know. Unfortunately we didn't get to see Gonzales because

2105
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 1: he was out.

2106
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 8: Like Devin mccordy had a Pro Bowl caliber rookie ye

2107
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 8: had Pro Bowl not caliber.

2108
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 1: He was a Pro bowler right his rookie year. You know.

2109
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: I think Bronk is a guy who got better and

2110
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: better as a rookie. Yeah, so maybe he maybe he

2111
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: made the second year jump in the middle of his

2112
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 1: rookie year.

2113
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,600
Speaker 4: I think I think the two guys that that that

2114
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 4: jumped to mind Paul, you mentioned Kem White, of course, uh,

2115
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 4: Krishian Zawes, I'm gonna leave him out of it though,

2116
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 4: uh city, So I mean otherwise I think I don't know.

2117
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm not really I'm not really about a little banged

2118
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: up about the ultimate second year jump, Tom Brady.

2119
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 5: Is there is there another level for Pop Douglas because

2120
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 5: he's healthy, He's the other one right saying healthy? I

2121
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 5: think yeah, but take in terms of like his actual

2122
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 5: play on the field, like, yeah, is that where is

2123
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 5: that you know, in terms of talent level, because he

2124
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 5: would be the one guy that I feel like could

2125
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 5: other than Gonzales, which I think is an obvious one

2126
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:06,759
Speaker 5: that maybe could.

2127
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: Should make that leave.

2128
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 5: I just don't don't. I haven't seen it with Kean

2129
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 5: w yet, like I watch, but yeah, like I said,

2130
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 5: I thought that I did catch run stuff from ninety one. Yeah, right,

2131
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,680
Speaker 5: for a few guys just took us.

2132
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: So now.

2133
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 8: There was like that was like he took a hard

2134
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 8: step to his right just we're talking about Dietrich wise

2135
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 8: yep uh, and then shot right through a gap. Now

2136
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 8: is that like sort of any different than what you've

2137
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:38,839
Speaker 8: seen in terms of technique?

2138
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 5: Not necessarily depending on you know what they're from. The

2139
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 5: atantics are what they're playing because usually like the weak

2140
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 5: side player, they they will let him just shoot the

2141
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 5: gap one on one.

2142
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 1: But it depends, you know.

2143
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 8: That's one thing I you know, I was talking to

2144
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 8: Fred before the show about all the offensive players that

2145
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 8: we're talking to were, you know, which talking about how

2146
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 8: Drake may looks and that, you know, the changes to

2147
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 8: the offensive system and I know the defensively there's probably

2148
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 8: I don't know if you want to say ninety five

2149
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 8: or more percent the same, But do you think there's

2150
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 8: any any changes in terms of the way they want

2151
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 8: to play? Not will they be more aggressive? Will they

2152
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 8: do anything in terms of by design?

2153
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet. There we go.

2154
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 9: He got behind it.

2155
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Well he let go on that on purpose. It's easy hearn. Yeah, okay,

2156
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: is that forty two? So tell us tell us who

2157
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: did watch? Yeah?

2158
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jayleen Polk got opened deep and it was a

2159
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 8: nice ball by Drake or for a long catch.

2160
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Hawkins. People in coverage and he got him right

2161
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 1: over there and dropped it in the bucket. Jalen Hawkins

2162
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: was lurking on that one. So all the offense is

2163
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: excited about that.

2164
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 8: Zez Hearn was the corner and coverage again, so he

2165
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 8: seems to be the guy that gets victimized.

2166
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 5: On the deep balls where is easy her And now

2167
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 5: he's a more physical corner at the line of scrimmage,

2168
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 5: like he's like a bump and run. Okay, truly, So

2169
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that he's prime Stephon Gilmour and we

2170
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 5: just haven't seen it yet. But in his defense, if

2171
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 5: you can't really get physical at the line of scrimmage

2172
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 5: with guys, and he's going to struggle to keep up

2173
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 5: and foot.

2174
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 8: Did you think that that Hawkins led up there a

2175
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 8: little bit a little bit?

2176
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think he was going to get

2177
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 5: there in terms of making a direct play on the football,

2178
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 5: but I do think he.

2179
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, see, I don't want to see those.

2180
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 8: There's two or three plays like that today that you

2181
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 8: can do and practice that I don't ever want to

2182
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 8: see anything.

2183
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: So that was one where May was dropped back, had

2184
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: two people right in his face and he.

2185
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 8: Threw, he back pedaled and off his back foot floated

2186
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 8: one out to the flat.

2187
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: Now it was complete, it was complete.

2188
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 8: But those are the kinds of plays that you don't

2189
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 8: necessarily want to see a lot of and I know

2190
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 8: that he has the arm to get it there. There's

2191
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 8: that omnipressing clip on Twitter that everybody rose like. Everybody

2192
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 8: runs it periodically. Mac Jones backfoot compared to Drake may

2193
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 8: backfoot and it's a throw that Mac made in Germany

2194
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 8: last year for the game ceiling pick and a play

2195
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 8: at North Carolina where May off his back foot, flips

2196
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:20,919
Speaker 8: one forty yards for a touchdown. Yeah, I understand physically

2197
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 8: he's capable of doing some of that stuff. I think

2198
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 8: you gotta learn the you know, you're got to learn

2199
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 8: the real, the regular bread and butter first before you

2200
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 8: worry about homes.

2201
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: And this gets back to my take about letting him

2202
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 1: make mistakes his rookie year. Let him get into a

2203
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 1: game and do that and get picked off, And that's

2204
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: the best way to learn. You have to do that.

2205
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 7: Some people have to see it and actually believe to

2206
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 7: believe it.

2207
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,680
Speaker 6: You know how your parents will tell you not to

2208
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 6: jump off the table one hundred and fifty times, and

2209
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 6: then you do it and you bust your leg open,

2210
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 6: and then.

2211
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 7: You won't do it again.

2212
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 8: It's like, Okay, why did that seem awfully specific not me.

2213
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 7: But you don't have siblings. I have brothers. They don't listen.

2214
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 1: Jumping off tables. Oh yeah, stove his hot. Don't touch it,

2215
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, like some people just have to do it.

2216
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 7: You have to do it to believe it.

2217
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,560
Speaker 1: Aboard it, snap, aboard, aboard, just as Kean White was

2218
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: getting ready the city soda.

2219
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 9: So I didn't like that.

2220
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 8: Now it's a little extra business.

2221
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh, booty blockings blocking, nice catch.

2222
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 4: Baker downfield from Joe Milton whips one downfield? Is that

2223
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 4: dial and coverage that wash?

2224
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 7: Is?

2225
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 1: He is?

2226
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 9: He just celebrating there? Yeah, that was about four sacks.

2227
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: On that point.

2228
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 4: Underwood came running. I couldn't even see the quarterback. I

2229
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 4: just thought it was it was Milt Milton just through

2230
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 4: an absolute missile down that's about fifty yards sixty yards down.

2231
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 8: Okay, and Jake May hands on head.

2232
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 9: And see that's another one of those that you guys

2233
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 9: have been talking about.

2234
01:40:57,880 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 7: It was the double pump.

2235
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 8: Yes, it was the double the double pomp, and I'm

2236
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 8: flat for enough's gonna flick it? Yes, guy, not in

2237
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 8: this league. A lot to learn celebrating in the end zone.

2238
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say that the blocking on these

2239
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 5: these blue legs have been a disaster.

2240
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 8: Ice clean pocket there see. Now when get in the

2241
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 8: clean pocket, like they can flow the ball. Yeah, all

2242
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 8: of these guys, like you just got to give.

2243
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 1: Him a little time. I'm enjoying himself out here. By

2244
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: the way, he always gave salute to his offense there.

2245
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Well he gave he they he should.

2246
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 8: That was like, really, that was probably the best pocket

2247
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 8: they've had all camp on that play, and he fired

2248
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 8: one for about a fifteen yard concture.

2249
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm kind of liking having man Milton. I'm not gonna

2250
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 4: lie like I just I want this team to be

2251
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 4: like everybody else there. I want this seem to be

2252
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,480
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl contender. And like taking shots on quarterbacks,

2253
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 4: I'm all for it. And it's just that, like Milan,

2254
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 4: it just adds a little bit of spice to cam.

2255
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't you know, maybe he ends up on the

2256
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 4: practice squad whatever, But like taking chances on guys with

2257
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 4: unique and special athletic traits, it's it's.

2258
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 6: What I mean, just the guy, no reward. Yes, they're

2259
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 6: both going to be projects. They have a lot of

2260
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 6: work to do. But if you don't risk it and

2261
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 6: goop for guys.

2262
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 5: Like that you're not going to get the reward.

2263
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I mean, I just like Milton's energy. Man,

2264
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: he kind of like it does it's.

2265
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 8: It's a little bit like Cam didn't seem to like

2266
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 8: it when it was Taekwon that much the same guys

2267
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 8: with unique but Skinny is not one of them.

2268
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 9: Cold strange. Well, I mean they had two drafts ago.

2269
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 8: They had a draft full of individually athletically gifted guys

2270
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 8: at their positions. They were like the most that guy,

2271
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 8: don't stop doing it.

2272
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 1: And every and everyone.

2273
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 9: No, I'm just saying, like every one of them didn't

2274
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 9: pan out.

2275
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's just difference between Joe Milton day three

2276
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 4: and and Taekwon Thornton day two mm hm and.

2277
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 1: So hopefulntoning into the season, he made some catches and

2278
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 1: then he got hurt.

2279
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 7: We were never hopeful of coolsetering.

2280
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: Never. Yeah, and I did.

2281
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 8: I mean I was not the most vocal opposer to

2282
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 8: the Taekwon thought. And that would be Evan who wanted

2283
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 8: to quit and he wasn't even working for us.

2284
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 5: I didn't help. Do you submit that clip lives online though?

2285
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,600
Speaker 5: Before you hired me, Like f y, I.

2286
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 8: It's pre existing condition.

2287
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: It's not covered on it, sure, so not a lot

2288
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 1: of milling around we're heading. It was like we're going

2289
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: a little competitive maybe, right, yeah, maybe we can get

2290
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: like a little bit of you know again once again.

2291
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: In past years by now, you would have had at

2292
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 1: least one session of special teams.

2293
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 5: Right, So they did, they've been they did early on,

2294
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,759
Speaker 5: but they're they're not. Actually they weren't putting any blockers

2295
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 5: out there. They did the same thing yesterday. I thought

2296
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 5: Bart was going to cry because he hasn't pulled out

2297
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 5: his stopwatch yet to do any hangtimes or anything like that.

2298
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 5: And both of us could not remember our time on

2299
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 5: the beat where the Patriots did so little special teams

2300
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 5: like Bill Belichick practice.

2301
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 9: It's actually a huge check in the male category.

2302
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,520
Speaker 1: Everyone no special.

2303
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 5: The fact that we haven't seen any field goal kicking,

2304
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 5: any live punting, none of it, which is pretty wild.

2305
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 7: Yes, it was the most special teams that we've seen

2306
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 7: so far.

2307
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 5: At least you can explain away the kickoffs by maybe

2308
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 5: they're trying to hide what they're going to do schematically

2309
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 5: with the new return rules. But like the punting in

2310
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,759
Speaker 5: the field goal kicking is is a real surprise.

2311
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 9: So it's going to be another full team period here.

2312
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 8: But it's Drake May with a a lot of a

2313
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 8: lot of secondary guys, Wallace and pretty much an entire

2314
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,799
Speaker 8: secondary Baker going to defense.

2315
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, as a lot of different numbers out there.

2316
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 8: As close as he can get to the bottom of

2317
01:44:57,840 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 8: the depth shot.

2318
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jabon Baker has a little Sorry, sorry, I didn't

2319
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 4: mean to that insulting.

2320
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 8: Just I called them secondary players. You said as close

2321
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 8: as you can get to the bottom of the battle.

2322
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 8: I think this day David is that David Wallas. Yeah,

2323
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 8: that's David Wallison.

2324
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 4: Uh, you know Brady was still here, he would be

2325
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 4: that year's this year's like slot guy that everybody's.

2326
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 9: Like quick, good time. He's quick.

2327
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 4: I honestly, he was one of the guys that I

2328
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 4: kind of underlined just when they had that rookie camp

2329
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 4: and then they had.

2330
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: A bunch of tryouts. He just he's quick. He moves out.

2331
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 8: I forget where he went to school, A small school.

2332
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard of it, but but

2333
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: he's he's got some quickness. Yeah, he looked very good there,

2334
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 1: very good. Drake Conna just arm angle a little little.

2335
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 8: Randolph Macone is that Virginia. I'm gonna guess that, Geldia. Yeah,

2336
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 8: Drake wanted a gun and there's this pressure.

2337
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 6: In his.

2338
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 8: See, I would rather if he's gonna pump like that,

2339
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 8: I'd rather him do what he just did. He just

2340
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 8: scramble and get what you can all day, then the

2341
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 8: reset flip off your back foot stough pick six.

2342
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they coached him that way between now and that

2343
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 1: last playboll Fred's got a lot of maybes going on too.

2344
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that?

2345
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'd just like to say, like, I think

2346
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 4: everything Paul has said, and you know, being a little

2347
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 4: critical of Polk start, I think everything Paul has said

2348
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 4: is true. I just find it encouraging that going back

2349
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 4: to Mini camp, you're looking at may throw it to

2350
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 4: Polk a lot. I mean, he just looks like he

2351
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 4: has his eye out for him and you know they're

2352
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,799
Speaker 4: they're developing a little bit of chemistry.

2353
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,559
Speaker 1: I'd say, so they both have had some growing paints today.

2354
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 4: No question, it's not perfect, but you know, just going

2355
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 4: back to the days of you know, all the receivers

2356
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 4: that have been through here and they're just quiet, they

2357
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 4: don't really get targeted. You don't even know if they're here,

2358
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 4: has been one that that gets a gets some action.

2359
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: I just caught a little quick out, a little toe tapper. Yeah.

2360
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: I like those, the quick outs.

2361
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 5: Three that those timing routes, the two of them definitely

2362
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 5: seem to be building up some chemistry, you know, the.

2363
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 8: Two the two plays that he had an opportunity to

2364
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 8: sort of run routes, ate some space for himself today,

2365
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 8: I thought.

2366
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 9: And one of them was against Gonzales.

2367
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I did like that, the fact that I

2368
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 8: saw at least a glimmer of him creating some separation.

2369
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 4: But I don't think anyone's going to sell it. He's

2370
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 4: ever going to be a burner. But it's not fast enough.

2371
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 4: Is he fast enough?

2372
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 8: That's that's why I thought, because I kind of thought

2373
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,560
Speaker 8: he was like, you know, a route runner, you know,

2374
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 8: less athlete, more tech, you know, technician Jerry Rice.

2375
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,759
Speaker 1: But he's also I just I thought, oh.

2376
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 8: Hasty, that was a nice pass right there where you

2377
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 8: can get right there to catch right there and nice

2378
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 8: the middle of the field throw. I like May when

2379
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 8: those when those work, they look very.

2380
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 1: That is the play that Drake May became the start.

2381
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 5: Three plays after the pick for what for what it's

2382
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 5: worth he threw pick to Jude on. We talked a

2383
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 5: lot about, you know, responding to adversity and how does

2384
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 5: he bounced back and a couple of completions here in

2385
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 5: this last elevens. I mean, Paul made a good point

2386
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 5: that it was against some backup and things like that,

2387
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 5: but it didn't look like he he cratered after the interest.

2388
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 9: So let me ask you something. You know, Fred said,

2389
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 9: you know, maybe there was something he was coaching.

2390
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna.

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01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 8: Throw a Fred, maybe do you think maybe he got

2392
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 8: those reps because of the way he ended the previous session.

2393
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Could we just want to get you out there. It's

2394
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:19,760
Speaker 1: not going to be with the start, you know, get.

2395
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 8: We don't want the last thing that you did to

2396
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 8: be a pick to you know, or whatever same thing

2397
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 8: Milton's getting right now. Yeah, I mean, I just wonder

2398
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 8: if maybe he got a couple of extra reps against

2399
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 8: backups because of the way he finished the previous I

2400
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 8: like that.

2401
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 4: It's interesting though it was only twelve thirty and I

2402
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 4: think we're supposed to still have another half hour.

2403
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 1: That's some therapeutical coaching by Alex van Pel Get him

2404
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: back on the get him back on the tracks on

2405
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: Field Therapy.

2406
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 4: See you see Milton was just uncorble. Here's just throwing

2407
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 4: it out there. Fred's got it being facked all.

2408
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 1: That's what your show does.

2409
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you make fun of my show.

2410
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: Sort of the moody.

2411
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 8: Something.

2412
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 1: It's just fun to say sometimes, you know, there's words

2413
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: just fun to say.

2414
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 8: Body booty by you.

2415
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: Get booty in the buyo. But zooka. Joe's having a good,

2416
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: a good fun time today. Yeh, he's enjoying himself.

2417
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 9: I would say he's having a lot of fun.

2418
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: The guy did a backflip he did.

2419
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 9: I just like you have this advertise you have to.

2420
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 4: Be feeling good to do a backflip, or they're like

2421
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 4: days like I'm feeling back like because I feel like

2422
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 4: there's be certain days.

2423
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 8: I'm like, I just I can't. I can't backflip today.

2424
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 8: You think that I've ever contemplated that, That's what I

2425
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 8: was trying to get to ball.

2426
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 4: I've never contemplated either. But I can't imagine that every

2427
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 4: day you're you're feeling backflip worthy. Although Joe Milton might

2428
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 4: look like you can uncourt that one.

2429
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: To hurt yourself. That was a great catch. What was that?

2430
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 1: That's Jake Quay Jackson Jackson, the ball was behind him.

2431
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 9: That's a couple of touch for him today.

2432
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 6: Though, interesting that someone wrote in about this number the

2433
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 6: very beginning of the show and he's gotten a.

2434
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 7: Lot of countries today.

2435
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: That was that was a missile by it and miss

2436
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: but he had to completely reach.

2437
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 8: No, I know it's chiropractical. I know, I like pulled

2438
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 8: his body with him, but the ball just comes out

2439
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 8: different he does. I mean his physical skills are events, yeah.

2440
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 5: Sharing yeah, I mean you just watch the the ball

2441
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 5: on those drive throws, like I know, everybody gets caught

2442
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 5: up in how far he can throw it, but it's

2443
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 5: far more important him driving.

2444
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 8: The ball on the line through the middle of I

2445
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 8: think virtually every quarterback in the league can throw the

2446
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 8: ball roughly as far as you know, the same, like

2447
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:33,759
Speaker 8: within five yards. His will get there five minutes before everybody.

2448
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 8: That's the difference, yep, from back to pass like that,

2449
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 8: just like it goes from his hand fifteen yards in

2450
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 8: a like a millisecond, and.

2451
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't give the defense a chance to break. Is

2452
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: that eighty eight?

2453
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 9: No, Unfortunately he doesn't complete enough of those passes.

2454
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean but.

2455
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 9: Today, I gotta be fair.

2456
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:54,839
Speaker 1: He's had a good couple of days. I mean today

2457
01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: fled by Joe Milton. Could you, mystery remind get to

2458
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the team that I can do that

2459
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 1: you can't. I'd drake next summer is like, you know,

2460
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: I gonna say, yay.

2461
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 8: You know you think he's going to spend the whole

2462
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 8: off season practicing backflips.

2463
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm good with him now he has done that with

2464
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick the head coach. I don't know. We saw

2465
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins do some backflips.

2466
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 8: It's amazing. I'm all these things happened. They actually did

2467
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 8: happen when Bill was here.

2468
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 1: That's true about this backflip stuff.

2469
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 9: I don't know what that's I don't know how much

2470
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 9: you get out of that.

2471
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Is that work? Is that worth a third down stop

2472
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:33,719
Speaker 1: and getting off the field.

2473
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2474
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 8: Why don't you put like bread bags on everybody came

2475
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 8: out with bread bags on his hands because he just

2476
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 8: had a manicure or something like.

2477
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's what people were saying. Remember

2478
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: when he was on the plane with a mask the

2479
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: whole time? Really what like like before it was stylish? No, no,

2480
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 1: not not a I'm talking about a Halloween man. Really. Oh,

2481
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: it's really weird.

2482
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 4: Scarc always seemed to me like the beat of his

2483
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 4: own drum.

2484
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 9: But how the guys seem to really like him.

2485
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: We're talking about right now, Yamy him him.

2486
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 5: You know what, I talked to him about Mayo when

2487
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 5: I read that story and she was a totally different guy.

2488
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:18,680
Speaker 5: And I joked with him about it. I was like,

2489
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 5: if you had given us answers like this when you

2490
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 5: were here and didn't duck us all the time. And

2491
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,640
Speaker 5: he was like, yeah, you know, I just as Bill, like,

2492
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 5: you know, I just wanted to follow the rules and

2493
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 5: you know, not not overstep or anything like that. But

2494
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 5: he's actually a very personable guy when when you talk

2495
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 5: to him.

2496
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,639
Speaker 4: All right now we're front line players, always got front

2497
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 4: line guys, and Anthony Jennings.

2498
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 8: Is out there just for those keeping track with.

2499
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: We're walking through and we're walking let him catch you.

2500
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, so they it was it's they were winding it

2501
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 9: down and now we're doing that.

2502
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 1: Little walkthrough here throw you're supposed to complete that. Come on,

2503
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: So maybe a good time Matt Morrell to take an

2504
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Speaker 1: the break. But before we do, I want to remind

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Speaker 1: All right, back here at practice, Patriots practicing a little

2555
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 1: field goal right now. Who's that Rylan?

2556
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 7: Oh?

2557
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 9: No, that's uh oh, that was Rylan.

2558
01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's Rylan. Yeah. Okay, thirty seven first first time,

2559
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 1: first time we see the field goal unit out there.

2560
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 1: How's he been doing so far? Making them all? I

2561
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 1: think he made the first one that I just saw.

2562
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: Was that the first one? Guy? The second one? I

2563
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 1: make them both? I think I think I've got both makes.

2564
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 4: I got thirty from the left past both made, and

2565
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:19,920
Speaker 4: then I had thirty from the middle, thirty five from

2566
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 4: the middle hash made.

2567
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 1: That's uh, well, look good, Jeremy spring of the new offensive.

2568
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, special teams coordinators. Got a big wide brim

2569
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: hat out there. A lot of energy from him. He's

2570
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: one of those high energy special coordinators. Yep, how you doing?

2571
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: All right? No on, it's just about thirty eight, I

2572
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: guess thirty eight.

2573
01:56:52,080 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, thirty eight yards, pad Ryland, h let's see anybody,

2574
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 13: no reaction, no reaction.

2575
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 1: I honestly could not tell you Duggart was given help.

2576
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 9: I can't tell.

2577
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: I can't tell you. Gotta wait till they know it

2578
01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:24,880
Speaker 1: all time. It looks straight, looks straighten up, and they

2579
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: should have somebody under there giving you the signal. Snap down,

2580
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 1: kick balls on its way. The Patriots are Super Bowl champions.

2581
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: That one might have looked like high. They high fived

2582
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: after they did. All right, I'll give it. I don't know.

2583
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:47,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on, but if I had

2584
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 4: this guest, I missed that one. All right, forty left hash.

2585
01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 1: Now from forty Patriots down by two. We're in Buffalo,

2586
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 1: slight breeze, left to right, snap hole kick, it's up.

2587
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 1: It's good, it's good. Yeah.

2588
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:20,839
Speaker 9: I mean they're slapping five.

2589
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 1: After every kah. It's okay, you'll get the next one.

2590
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 1: I can only assume that. I know that's a dangerous

2591
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: assumption to make.

2592
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 6: Right.

2593
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, you got that. That's what'll do.

2594
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 8: Some encouragement, like we're just trying to get to snap

2595
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 8: hold right, you know, Foxboro high. All right, sir, Now

2596
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 8: we're going Joey slide forty left hand.

2597
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 4: Man.

2598
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: That looked pretty good to me. That looked good.

2599
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I don't think anybody.

2600
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 8: Has missed one. But I just I'm just basing it

2601
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 8: on body language. After they kick, all right, they're slapping

2602
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 8: five with the holder and when jogging and that might

2603
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 8: be it. We're sitting at an angle. Yeah, team's coming in.

2604
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 1: What if he says, good third day today, Fred? Is

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Speaker 1: that all right with you? It's not really the third days,

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01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: well for a lot of them, it is.

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01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 9: For who a lot of the players it's their third day.

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01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Really, they weren't here for a mini camp or anything

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01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 1: like that. Oh, we're not counting. We're counting mini camps

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01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 1: because we're told that they stack these things. I mean,

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01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:23,560
Speaker 1: is that Mapo man? I don't know.

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01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 8: He's kind of like I'm moving weird.

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01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: He's just like walking over to the huddle, but it

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01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 1: was like speed walk. I looked like he didn't want to.

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01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 13: I don't know.

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01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 1: It seemed like he might be dealing with something lower body.

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01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 9: His mao doing the talking in there.

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01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Let me see, yes, yes, yep, yep.

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01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 4: Day off tomorrow now, so is it a day off

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01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 4: for the team or are they do they still have

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01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 4: work to do?

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01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 8: Believe the players on the list Waiter's day off.

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01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they have to.

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01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,560
Speaker 9: I believe they mandated one out of every five days.

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01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so with three onward, three off them? Will U Yeah,

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02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 1: I said, well I did. Technically, I think Tuesday counts. Yeah,

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02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 1: so they've been four. Yeah, they probably like did the

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02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: testing and stuff conditioning test.

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02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this five day acclimate reacclimation period, it is

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02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 5: required that they.

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02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 8: Take a And that's what led to the confusion with

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02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 8: Mayo calling it's seven practices as opposed to seven days.

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02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Right, be fair to Mayo. It's confusing. I've read it

2634
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 1: in the CBA.

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02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 9: I say the same thing every year.

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02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 5: It's the wording, like you, I need like just to

2637
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 5: translate it, like I need a lawyer to like really spell.

2638
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 1: Out what they're trying to say, because lawyers.

2639
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're confusing, Like it's just confusing wording.

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Speaker 1: Hey, do you guys think they'll still do the the

2641
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Rookie Olympics with the water? Oh? I don't know. That's

2642
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 1: a good good question. Or will they come up with

2643
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: something new? Right? Are posing for a picture here.

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02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 13: What's going on? I don't know.

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02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 7: They're meeting in their position groups.

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02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 4: Offensive line, yeah, receivers, Cardona says, yeah, I don't need

2647
02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 4: to do any of that.

2648
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:10,160
Speaker 1: The life of a long snapper.

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02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 7: It looks like they're done.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, it's been great. We're not going

2651
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 1: to do a post player interview because Jacoby Brissett is

2652
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 1: scheduled to talk and he is the starting quarterback of

2653
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 1: the New Patriots at the moment, and whenever the starting

2654
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 1: quarterback talks, we cover that live.

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02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, all of them are speaking though, So come back

2656
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 7: for the rest on Patriots dot com.

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02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 1: Right, but we will have Jacoby Brissett live when that happens, so, uh,

2658
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:39,920
Speaker 1: stay tuned on Patriots dot com. But as far as

2659
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 1: we're concerned, that's going to be the end of this show.

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02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: We thank everyone for watching, listening. We will be back

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