1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The second hour of Clay in Buck begins, everybody, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about the lawsuit that Brags 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: filed against Jim Jordan, Congresman of Ohio a little later 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: this hour, because first up, we have Betsy Divace with 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: us now. She's the former Trump Administration Education secretary, and Betsy, 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: appreciate your calling into the program. Thanks for having me. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: So we've got this big Title nine issue that the 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Biden administration presents the American people with involving transgenderism and 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Title nine protection and sports, And can you just lay 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: out for everybody exactly what's going on here? Well, very simply, 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: this administration is in a massive overreach trying to dismiss 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: the notion of biological sex and basically government wide impose 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: and jam an agenda down the throat of the American 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: people that would would force everyone to recognize an individual 16 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: however they claim to be at any given moment, whether 17 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: it's male or female, biological or not. And this has 18 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: everything to do with the rules protecting girls women's access 19 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: to an ability to compete in sports if they are 20 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: successful with what they are attempting to do. It essentially 21 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: wipes away this notion of women's sports by allowing biological 22 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: males to compete on women's teams. Now they're trying to 23 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: thread a needle that isn't simply isn't threadable by putting 24 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: out a proposed rule that would allow for precluding biological 25 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: men to compete in some cases. But all the conditions 26 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: they're putting around it will suggest and say very clearly 27 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: that they won't be acceptable, and you know, they just 28 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: won't happen, and that anyone who wants to play on 29 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: a women's team, regardless, will have that opportunity. It's a 30 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: total affront to girls and women who are working hard, 31 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: training hard, and spending hours and hours in gyms or 32 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: on fields or wherever trying to hone their skills to 33 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: know that at any time or any point, a biological 34 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: mail can come and basically beat um, you know, win 35 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: the state title or win the championship. Betsy, you're one 36 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: hundred percent right on all this, and thanks for coming on, 37 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: because I feel like you gave us a hint that 38 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: this was coming, and it's still staggering, and I just 39 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: want to kind of give a little background here. Title 40 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: nine basically requires equal scholarships for girls athletes and men athletes, 41 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: boys and girls in pretty much every college in America. 42 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: What the Biden administration is doing is they're saying, now, 43 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: what we saw happen with Leah Thomas, a man's swimmer 44 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: men swimmer who decides to identify as a woman and 45 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: then wins an NCAA championship, would actually be far more 46 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: common and it would be more difficult to prohibit that 47 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: from happening. So that's the backstory. But I want to 48 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: get your reaction to this. When you see Megan Rapino, 49 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: US women's soccer player, who has spent much of her 50 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: career fighting for equal pay for women, and when you 51 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: see Sue Bird, a w NBA player, come out basically 52 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: endorsing this Biden administration policy and fighting back against the 53 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: idea that women's sports should just be for women, how 54 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: do you respond to that? Well, it makes no sense, 55 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: particularly from individuals who them selves have benefited from having 56 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: women's sports dedicated to female biological females playing them. And uh, 57 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's nothing but a political ploy 58 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: to make sure not to run a foul of anybody 59 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: who would attack them. I mean, just look at how 60 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: Riley Gaines was treated at San Francisco State University last 61 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: week when she just simply wanted to go and talk 62 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: about the importance of protecting women's sports and women's Uh, 63 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: you know, the ability of only biological women to play 64 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: on women's teams. Uh. But you know, the the agenda 65 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: of this far left is loud, and it's getting louder 66 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: and um. And I think some of the folks who 67 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: are are acting like they're going along with it are 68 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: doing so simply because it seems the simplest and easiest 69 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: thing to do, but they know in their heart of 70 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: hearts it's it's dead wrong. We're speaking about you would 71 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: educate secretary under President Trump and Betsy what would be 72 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: the next step you think beyond what the Biden administration 73 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: has already put forward for this Title nine ruling about 74 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: about sports. Because this was in the making for a while, 75 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: we had known there was some advanced word that the 76 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Biden White House was considering this. What is the next 77 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: step in the trans agenda as this White House is 78 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: likely to unveil it, perhaps if there is a second 79 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: Biden term, or perhaps before even the twenty twenty four 80 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: election is complete. Well, they're in the process of rewriting 81 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: the Title nine rule and regulation around it. And this 82 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: latest proposed rule that is supposed to separate out sports 83 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: and how we treat sports is an attempt to obfuscate 84 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: the giant overreaches that they are attempting through the whole 85 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: Title nine regulation. And I think everybody has to be 86 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: ready to fight UM on multiple fronts. First of all, 87 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: this the simple protection of the original intent of Title nine, 88 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: and that is allowing equal access on the part of 89 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: both males and females to education and everything related to education. Secondly, 90 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: it it their their rule UM does does away completely 91 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: with due process protections in any kind of a uh 92 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and a you know, a proceeding around miss sexual misconduct 93 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: on campuses. And and then third this transgender uh you 94 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: know athlete attempted carve out is nothing but a distraction 95 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: and a sideline to what the core issue is, which 96 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: is basically trying to uh define the to redefine the 97 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: notion of sex being anything anyone chooses to be at 98 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: any point in time. Betsy, you mentioned what happened to 99 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: Riley at San Francisco State University. We had Riley on 100 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the program yesterday that happened in Nancy Pelosi's congressional district. 101 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: She hasn't said a word. Nancy Pelosi, hasn't Joe Biden's administration. 102 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: To my knowledge, not one single person has spoken out 103 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: about that violence at all. If Riley Gaines had been trans, 104 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: and if she had been showing up on any campus 105 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: in America saying trans athletes deserve the opportunity to compete 106 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: as women, and if she had been attacked as a result, 107 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: they would have immediately commented how frankly disappointing, unsupportable is 108 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the idea that they won't even speak out against the violence. 109 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: Even the university itself basically blamed Riley Gains for the 110 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: violence that people perpetrated against her. Well, the reaction here 111 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: is just inexplicable, and it should be very, very concerning 112 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: to every American who acknowledges that sex is binary. There 113 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: are males and there are females, and this whole transgender 114 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: movement is a clearly far left movement that has a loud, 115 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, loud adherents that stop at nothing to try 116 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: to make their point. But we have got to speak 117 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: up and push back and say this is not acceptable. 118 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: First of all, everything the Biden administration is doing is 119 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: a total affront to Congress. It is there's nothing they're 120 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: doing that is in line constitutionally. It also is an 121 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: attack on states, because about twenty states have actually passed 122 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: laws banning biological males participating on female teams. And so 123 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: this is this is an issue that is only going 124 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: to gain more steam and momentum. But it's got to 125 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: be around the protection of uh. You know, of this 126 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: notion of equal access on the part of males and females, 127 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: and on a clear and fair and viable framework for 128 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: how to handle these matters on campuses. You know, Betsy, 129 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: you were part of the Trump administration and understand in 130 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: real detail the workings of the Department of Education. One 131 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: of the primary missions of Trump both then and going forward, 132 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: as he says in interviews and policy statements, is to 133 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: drain the swamp. I'm just wondering. I know this is 134 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: a very broad question, but what would draining the swamp 135 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to education and the education bureaucracies and 136 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: unions look like in this country. Is it even doable? 137 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: I think it absolutely is, And we actually started to 138 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: try to move in that direction with two budgets that 139 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: basically block granted everything from the federal level back to 140 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: the states and local communities. And the point is that 141 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: the focus has to shift, and it has to shift 142 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: in favor of first of all, parents in decision making 143 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: for their kids and around education freedom policies. And then secondly, 144 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: taking all of the power and political control that the teacher, 145 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: the school unions and all of their their allies have 146 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: amassed in Washington and turning those back to states and 147 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: local communities to make decisions that are best for their 148 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: most close to home. The US Department of Education has 149 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: been an utter failure at everything it was set up 150 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: to do. Its mission has been a failure. Kids have 151 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: been failed because of many of the policies promulgated from 152 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: there for many, many years. And I think folks have 153 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: finally awakened to this fact, and I hope that the 154 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: momentum continues to build around turning power away from that 155 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: agency that has basically become nothing more than an arm 156 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: of the school unions. Last question for you, Bets, and 157 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, because this is a big story. 158 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: Do you ever anticipate that feminists are going to sign 159 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: because this is one of the problems that Democrats have 160 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: right left wingers in particular, Everything is the oppression Olympics, 161 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: everything is the identity politics victimization pyramid. Women in theory 162 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: feminists have been some of the most outspoken proponents of 163 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: female athletics anywhere, yet they are mostly, as we mentioned, 164 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: with Megan Ropino and Sue Bird staying silently on the 165 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: sidelines here. What would it take in your mind? Would 166 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: it take the best women's basketball player being clearly a 167 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: biological man. Would it take a man winning Wimbledon in 168 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: women's Wimbledon? What would have to happen in your mind 169 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: for people to recognize what is coming and how much 170 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: of a direct threat it is to women's athletics. Well, 171 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: I think more and more people are recognizing it today 172 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: as it's becoming more and more ubiquitous across the country. 173 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: And assuming these rules continue to advance as the Biden 174 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,239 Speaker 1: administration intends, there will be a lot more examples, egregious 175 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: examples that you know, those who are not paying attention 176 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: today will simply have to turn their eyes to and 177 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: acknowledge this is just not this is not tenable. The 178 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: massive overreach on the part of this administration in this 179 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: area and in so many other areas, there's no wonder 180 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: why the president's approval is as low as it is, 181 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: and it continues to go lower. By the way, I 182 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: know I said last question, but if Trump won reelection, 183 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: would you want to try to do this all over again? 184 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Would you want to run it back as secretary? You know, 185 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I've said multiple times that the only way I could 186 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: see myself going back there would be with the mission 187 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: of closing the Department of Education. There we go, that's 188 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: one would be strong swam. That's great, Betsy. We appreciate 189 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: all the things you're doing out there, all the fights 190 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: you're fighting, and thanks for coming on with us. Thanks 191 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: so much, guys, good talking with you. It's Betsy de Vos. 192 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: She's been right all of this stuff. Bucks. She told us, 193 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm coming with title nine. By the way, I mean, 194 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: if if frum Board to win, he should make her 195 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: Education secretary with that mission, that'd be fantastic. That's why 196 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: I asked her about the swamp training. 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Consult a financial advisor 215 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: and read the prospectus before investing. Learn more at rad 216 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: diversified dot com. The voices of sanity in an Insane World. 217 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Clay Travis sand Buck Sexton, Welcome back in Clay Travis 218 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: buck Sexton show Bucks. So they have officially I think 219 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: we mentioned this on the show, but if we did not, 220 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: Republicans passed a law demanding that Joe Biden in the 221 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: COVID emergency. Biden signed that bill right before he left 222 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: for Ireland. And but there still are some complicating factors 223 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: among them. And this is crazy. And some of you 224 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: may be dealing with this because you may have family 225 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: or friends overseas who have refused to get the COVID 226 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: shot you Because of a CDC rule that came out 227 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: in October of twenty twenty one, Buck, you are still 228 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: not allowed to enter this country unless you have gotten 229 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: the COVID shot if you are a foreign national, so 230 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: you can't fly in on an airplane. I just came back. 231 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: We had an amazing time in Italy. We talked about it. 232 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten the COVID shot, zero issues whatsoever to 233 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: fly back into this country. But if you have families 234 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: in Europe, you have family in Africa, family in Asia, 235 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: and those family members have refused to get the COVID 236 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: shot because it's worthless buy in large, especially if you're 237 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: relatively young and healthy, then you probably already have had 238 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: COVID two. You can't enter the country. But buck, over 239 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: five million people since Joe Biden became president have illegally 240 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: entered our country through the southern border. There is zero 241 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: COVID requirement at all at the southern border. I would 242 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: love to hear our buddy, Peter Doocey if the White 243 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: House has a briefing, because this is a big deal. 244 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Obviously it's Novak Djokovic has gotten a lot of attention here. 245 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: But how would the CDC justify if you come in 246 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: on an airplane, you have to have gotten the COVID shot. 247 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: But if you're one of the five million people walking 248 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: across our southern border, we don't care about COVID at all. 249 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: I would love to hear our good friend Kara Jean 250 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Pierre try to answer that also, buck Elon Musk didn't 251 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: just Savage as we started off the program sharing this 252 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: didn't just Savage the BBC reporter for his failure to 253 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: point out any actual hate speech on Twitter. He also 254 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: went after the BBC for their COVID misinformation. Listen, you 255 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: change the COVID misinformation. A BBC changes COVID missinformation. The 256 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: BBC doesn't not set the rules on Twitter set. So 257 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, no, I'm talking about with the BBC's 258 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: misinformation about COVID. I'm literally asking you about you change 259 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: the labels, the COVID misinformation labels. There used to be 260 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: a policy and then then disappears. Why doing thou COVID 261 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: is no longer an issue? Does the BBC puld itself 262 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: at all responsible for misinformation regarding masking and side effects 263 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: of vaccinations and not reporting on that at all? And 264 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: what about the fact that the BBC was put under 265 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: pressure by the British government to change the editorial policy. 266 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? This is the one insview 267 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: about the babyc by the BBC is that it's great, 268 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: He's phenomenal. The BBC is basically stayed media. Okay, So 269 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: so it's BBS and they're getting all upset now it's 270 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: publicly funded, as Elon said in this interview, But it's 271 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: fascinating they're still upset. The journal hive mind globally is 272 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: still upset that they don't have the defined and certain 273 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: right to at any point have the kind of apparatus 274 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: of the left decide what is misinformation online? That's what 275 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: this is really all about, because they got all that 276 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: stuff wrong. They don't care. They just want to know 277 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: next time we still get to shut you down. 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Start saving. 299 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: Now all right, now, we had mentioned at the top 300 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: of the hour the situation, the legal wrangling that has 301 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: unfolded here where you have the District Attorney of New York, 302 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg, now famous, perhaps infamous district attorney, who has 303 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: indicted a former president and current presidential candidate in one 304 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: of the most blatant, flagrant abuses of law for political 305 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: purposes by a prosecutor any of us have ever seen. 306 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Turns out that there's there's a set of rules here 307 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: that we all need to understand which the Democrats can 308 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: abuse whatever power they have for political purposes, and whatever 309 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: power Republicans have doesn't count if in any way it 310 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: could interfere with the Democrat abuse of power. That though 311 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: there's the actual rules, they won't state it that way, 312 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: but that's what goes on here. You have Bragg filing 313 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: in federal court a lawsuit. So the local district attorney 314 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: in Manhattan following a federal lawsuit, using the resources and 315 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: time of the people in his office to follow federal 316 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: lawsuit to block a previous and this is it's not 317 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: that easy to follow this to block a previous line 318 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: prosecutor from the District Attorney's office who was involved in 319 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: the investigation of the Trump hush money payments before when 320 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: there were no charges. And I think this guy has 321 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: gone on to like talk about it on TV and 322 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: everything else. He has since left disattorney's office. That Bragg 323 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: is claiming in federal court that former da ADA whatever 324 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: he was, senior Ada probably assistant District attorney is not 325 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: allowed to be subpoenaed by Congress, you know, that federal 326 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: body that Constitution lays out. It's kind of like the 327 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: foundation of the government not allowed to be subpoened by 328 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan as part of the recite that members of 329 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: the House are doing, Republican members of the House are doing. 330 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: Because it interferes with Braggs crazy politicized witch hunt against 331 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump at the local level. I mean, I actually, 332 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: I don't really see how this can go any way 333 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: other than Bragg's lawsuit eventually getting thrown out. He asked 334 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: for a temporary injunction, meaning that it would be it 335 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: would go into effect right away to prevent the testimony 336 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: that was turned down by the federal judge. But they 337 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: have set you know, there's now motions in place. The 338 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: next a couple weeks is going to be more stuff 339 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: what actually ends up happening here, Clay, I feel like 340 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: this could probably just get delayed and delayed a lot more. 341 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: But it's there's definitely some hootspa here with filing the 342 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: lawsuit against member and there's nothing about what Jim Jordan 343 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: in the Congress is doing nothing about it is illegal 344 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: and proper not in their authority, but their authority doesn't 345 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: count if there's a district attorney in New York who 346 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: has something else going on. It's an aggressive legal move 347 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: that's essentially designed to run out the clock would be 348 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: the way that I would define it. My understanding is 349 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: Buck and I haven't to be fair, I haven't read 350 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: all the pleadings. I haven't spent a ton of time 351 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: on this case so far. But my understanding is that 352 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: he is seeking a declaratory judgment, effectively letting it be 353 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: known that what Jim Jordan is trying to do is 354 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: not permissible under the law, and he's citing several different 355 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: theories for why the declaratory judgment would be appropriate. It's like, 356 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: it's clearly and I think this is where you have 357 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: to talk about the timeframe. Remember, they are not scheduled 358 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: to be back in New York City in the courtroom 359 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: again until December fourth. So we are sitting here coming 360 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: up on mid April, and there will not be another 361 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: hearing at least based on the pleadings and schedule right 362 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: now in the Donald Trump versus Alvin Bragg New York 363 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: City versus Trump case until December fourth. And what Bragg 364 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: has requested buck is an actual trial in January. And 365 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: people have not discussed enough how crazily political that is, 366 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: because Bragg is demanding that Donald Trump be taken off 367 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: of the campaign trail in the middle of Iowa, in 368 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: the middle of New Hampshire and go sit for a 369 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: multi week potential trial in New York City. There every 370 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: day is the defendant. It's clearly designed to directly implicate 371 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: the political process, and simultaneously he is now trying to 372 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: keep himself from being held accountable for his clearly political persecution. 373 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: Of Donald Trump by using availing himself of the same 374 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: court that he is already taking advantage of in New York. 375 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: So that's what's going on here, really is New York 376 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: is a very favorable forum to the argument of Donald 377 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: Trump is a massive threat to America and so we 378 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: have to do anything to stop him, and he's trying 379 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: to take advantage of every goal maneuver that he can 380 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: to make that possible and to keep his timeline intact. 381 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, who we had on last week, this is 382 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: what he wrote about this on Twitter. First they indict 383 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: a president for no crime. Then they sued a block 384 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: congressional oversight. When we ask questions about the federal funds, 385 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: they say they used to do it. So the temporary 386 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: restraining order has been denied by the judge in this case, 387 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: which would have immediately prevented the enforcement of any subpoena. 388 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: The judge has ordered that Jordan's lawyers have to respond 389 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: by April seventeenth. There's you know, there's hearings. It's gonna 390 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: get to your point, Clay. I think that's gonna get 391 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: dragged out a whole bunch in a number of different ways. 392 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: Mark Pomerantz is the member of the former member of 393 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: the Bragg team in the Disattorney's office who resigned apparently 394 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: just weeks into Bragg's term. And you know, because he 395 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: did not see he did not seek an indictment of 396 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. So he was a guy working on this 397 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: brag comes in Pomerantz resigns because he doesn't bring this 398 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: charge against Trump. I think clearly what they're worried about 399 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: here is they're gonna get the guy assigned by the 400 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: district attorney to look into this sham indictment of Trump, 401 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: who clearly didn't bring the charge. Right, it didn't make 402 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: the case to bring the charge then. And if they 403 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: get him in front of Congress under oath saying yeah, 404 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: this this was not sustainable at that time as a 405 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: case when obviously the nothing there's no one new information, 406 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: nothing would have changed. It just goes to show what 407 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: an absurdity this whole thing actually is. And I think 408 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: it's important for people to recognize your point, Clay, which 409 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: is that they're they're not just doing this for the optics. 410 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean there's a you know, for the sense of 411 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: political narrative around Trump has been indicted. They're gonna physically 412 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: take him off the campaign trip. Yes, they're going to tie. 413 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: So even if you say, oh, Trump will beat it, 414 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: Trump has got this in the bag and Trump and 415 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: by the way, I do not take that position because 416 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: of the jury pool he faces. I also think that 417 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Georgia has it beaten. Because this is a BS case. 418 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: I always have to be careful not to curse. But 419 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: if it goes in front of a jury, the jury 420 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: will probably convict him, right. But just having to deal 421 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: with this, I always say, because I come from the 422 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: federal government side back in the day, the process is 423 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: the punishment. And if they can stack up enough punishing 424 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: processes New York, Georgia and maybe some kind of special 425 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: Council obstruction nonsense at some point, even if they lose 426 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: all of the look at the history of the Democrats 427 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: have done with Russia collusion and the Muller pro But 428 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: you know impeachment hoax wanted impeachment hoax too. We all 429 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: see that. We say Trump beat it. Trump beat it, 430 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: I mean he did in that they weren't able to 431 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: get to the end result they wanted. But he had 432 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: to deal with all that nonsense the whole time. And 433 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: Buck don't underrate we're talking about just New York right now. 434 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Just New York is talking about, Hey, we want to 435 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: try to prosecute him in the middle of Iowa and 436 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Don't forget Atlanta would also stack on this. 437 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: That might well run into post primary season. Maybe they 438 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: try to do that case in March, right, they're not. 439 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: He can't stand trial simultaneously in different jurisdictions. So what 440 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: they theoretically could do, Buck is they could stack January prosecution, 441 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: March prosecution, September, October prosecution. They could legitimately put him 442 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: on the stand as a defendant for almost the entirety 443 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. And I understand people out there 444 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: who say, well, this benefits Trump. It doesn't really. If 445 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: you can't get on the road and do the rallies 446 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: that you would ordinarily be doing, does that help you 447 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: in toss some states? I don't think so. It's so yeah, 448 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: it's galling to think about. But the strategy in twenty 449 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: twenty was locked Joe Biden in the basement. The strategy 450 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four will be lock Donald Trump in 451 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: the courthouse. This is something they're gonna do, is perfectly said. 452 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: That's right, And this is why scenarios buck. What is 453 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: it make Trump the story? Biden's not running on his 454 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: on his candidacy and on his presidency, on his incumbency 455 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: because he's a disaster. So the Democrats know that. And 456 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: there I think that's perfectly said by you. 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We roll 491 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: through the Wednesday edition of the program Buck I had 492 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: a fun Well, I wasn't really that fun, but it 493 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: was an interesting interaction. I had two interesting interactions right 494 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: after I finished the show yesterday. Okay, interaction number one. 495 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm publishing this new book. It's coming 496 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: out in August, and I had a call with the 497 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: lawyer who had reviewed it to make sure whether there 498 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: are things that need to be changed for legal reasons whatever. 499 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Nothing needs to be changed, but only like five or 500 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: six people have read my book, and so at the 501 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: end of the call, I was like, hey, what did 502 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: you think of the book? And he was like, I 503 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: disagreed with all of it, and I was just thinking. 504 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: I was just thinking for the lawyer who had to 505 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: review my entire book, and he hated every single argument 506 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: that I made the whole way through. That's really kind 507 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: of remarkable. Second thing was I'm trying to get life 508 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: insurance because you know, I'm forty four. Now, I got 509 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: young family, you want to take care of him, whatever. 510 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: So I've I've got a medical exam that I have 511 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: to do a little more salt than pepper in that beard, Buddy, 512 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm getting think about that the other day. 513 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: I've never died the beard, but I was. I was 514 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: actually trimming my beard this morning. It's almost all white. 515 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 1: My hair has not gone white. But I'm gonna be 516 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a weird dude because I'm 517 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna just have a white beard and then still not white. Hey, 518 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else has had this happened. 519 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me why the beard would 520 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: go white and the hair would stay relatively brown or whatever. 521 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what the cause is there. But 522 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: she comes in and it's pretty detailed, like at one 523 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: point she has me hooked up to an EKG and 524 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: I got to lay down on the couch and there's 525 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 1: like all these different prongs to read my heart and 526 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: everything else, and she's taken a lot of blood and 527 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: everything else. But the minute she walks in, she hears 528 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: me and she says, oh my god, I love the show. 529 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: And then the second part she's like, you haven't been 530 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: able to eat your turkey and cheese sandwich today because 531 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to eat food before the examination. So 532 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: she's like, we got to get through with this really fast. 533 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: So I wanted to thank Glauri for coming out and 534 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: making sure hopefully that I don't die anytime soon, and 535 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: that if I do, at least the family gets money 536 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: for it. But I love that she was such a 537 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: listener that she immediately thought, because of the blood work 538 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: and everything else, oh, you haven't had the opportunity to 539 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: eat lunch. So she was fantastic. In much more serious news, 540 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: I would say, we also have a call, and this 541 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: call is asking, I think a really smart question because Buck, 542 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: the conversation we were just having is about the fact 543 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: that they may well stack multiple different cases on Trump 544 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: because not a coincidence, they wanted to have this trial 545 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: in January of twenty four, and then if they're charges 546 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: brought in the Atlanta, Georgia case, you stacked that case. 547 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: And then if there are charges brought by the Department 548 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: of Justice, you stacked that as well. Trump can't simultaneously 549 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: be in multiple different courtrooms, so one would have to 550 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: follow the other. They're potentially trying to put him in 551 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: courtrooms for the entirety of twenty twenty four to rig 552 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: the election in favor of Joe Biden. And Andy in Austin, 553 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: Texas has a good question about this. Yeah, So if 554 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: their collusion between those offices, I think I think Jim 555 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Jordan ought to subpoena every one of them and get 556 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: any of their phone records, all their emailing records, and 557 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: to see if if we have the DMC and the 558 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: DOJ and the DA in New York and the DA 559 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: and in Atlanta, just to see what kind of conversations 560 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: they're having between one another. Fantastic idea. So I think 561 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: there's there's two levels to this. One is um the 562 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: idea that we just need to start fighting fire with fire, 563 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: which is what this caller is going to uh, and 564 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: I completely agree it never stops. They're never going to 565 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: stop because they feel guilty about cheating, about foul play, 566 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: about any of that right, They're just going to keep 567 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: doing it until they are stopped. One way, you may 568 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: be able to get them to not use this Trump 569 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: indictment as a presson. You think this is the last 570 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: time they're going to indict a politician to try to 571 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: stop them from being a contender against them and their power. 572 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Definitely not. So you have to find a way to 573 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: exact a price for the tactics that they're using. So 574 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: that's part one. I think you and I play see 575 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: that the same way, and it's a it's a great 576 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: point from the caller, and yeah, I mean, we do 577 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: have a majority in the House, Thank Heavens that can 578 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: use the power of being a look with. You know, 579 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: Pelosi and her gang were pulling people's phone records, doing 580 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: all kinds of very aggressive investigative tactics. So that's that's 581 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: for sure. On the collusion side of it, it's interesting 582 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: because I think that we've all collusion was so misused 583 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: as a term, never mind the fact that it was 584 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: all lies, but just used as a term during the 585 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: Trump error and the Muller probe, because it really was 586 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: conspiracy in legal terms that they were talking about, like 587 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: a conspiracy to defraud or steal the election or whatever. 588 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Collusion I think only exists in criminal statute when it 589 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: comes to antitrust law. So it's like price fixing between companies. 590 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you I don't think you can 591 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: have collusion that goes to government agencies. I don't know. 592 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: It's an interesting legal question. I would say a couple 593 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: of things. One, his general premise is a good one. 594 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: I would love to know how much interaction there has 595 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: been between prosecutors in Georgia, New York, and in the 596 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: Department of Justice as it pertains to their Trump investigations. 597 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: I would love to see that data. I think the 598 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: idea of investigating its fabulous. Jim Jordan listens to the show, 599 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: his staff listens to the show. They may well be 600 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: ahead of this already because they're super smart guys. But 601 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,240 Speaker 1: if they have not, it's a good example of floating 602 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: an idea out there to an audience this large and influential. 603 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: That is a great one for them to pursue. The 604 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: other thing I would say Buck is they may not 605 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: have to have direct behind the scenes communications because once 606 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: the charges are brought, you can basically communicate via your 607 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: court filings. So, for instance, if you're in Georgia right 608 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: now and you see O Trump's going to be in 609 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: New York in December, and they're requesting a January trial date, well, 610 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: we can't go head to head with that trial date 611 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Let's try to make ours March. How long 612 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: do we think this trial with Trump might go. Let's 613 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: get him in there in April. And then if their 614 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Department of Justice they say, well, we've already got New 615 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: York and Georgia scheduled, Well, we'll put him in trial. 616 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Let's try to get our trial going in September or October. 617 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: And the result is you're just stacking prosecution. So Trump 618 00:36:52,239 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: is in courtrooms throughout the entire campaign cycle. Mark coming up.