WEBVTT - So We’re Prosecuting Fani Now? 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.840 Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.000 Resent Choice Media. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:08.520 Welcome home, y'all. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.440 This is episode seven of Native LAMPI where we break 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.080 down all that's happening in politics. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:17.439 With a little bit of culture too. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.000 We are your host, Tiffany Cross, angela Ryan Andrew Gillim 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.680 and we are still celebrating Black History Month, y'all. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.320 Celebrating, yeah, celebrating. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.640 Absolutely happy Black History. 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I like it, 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:51.239 ay Ry. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:52.000 What do you say? 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:57.680 Standing on business with a Ry Tents Tino? 0:00:58.080 --> 0:00:58.959 All right, all right. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:06.080 On today's episode, we are going to discuss the long 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:08.800 and windy road that is the twenty twenty four election. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.560 Joe Biden is being pushed on racial justice by black 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.320 members of Congress and civil rights organizations more than one 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.559 hundred to be exact. Donald Trump launched a sneaker brand 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:20.120 because we were definitely looking. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.840 For that and maybe Maga Maga Red Bottoms might. 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.080 Help him pay off that three hundred and fifty five 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.920 million dollar judgment. Nicki Haley is vowing to stay in 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.240 the race to the very end of Super Tuesday, that is, 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.600 And with the Michigan primary coming up on February twenty seventh, 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.840 we want to know, Michigan, who y'all got. Are you 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.080 going with the Rashida to Leave strategy or are you 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.200 gonna vote Joe Biden. Fannie Willis was actually cashing out 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.800 in Napa Valley, according to the recollection of an employee 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.480 who remembers her in politics are everywhere. Beyonce is in 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.640 the top spot in country music because Black History Month 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.520 is an amazing time to remind white folk that we 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.520 did that first too. And speaking of country logic, Alabama's 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.480 Supreme Court says, embryos are children. Stick around, and you 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.480 know we'll hear from you getting into those audience questions. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.840 And it would not be NLP without some calls to 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:14.560 action too. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.120 Let's go, let's get it. 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.600 So we're gonna start off with Joe Biden. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.720 He's being called to the carpet on racial justice related issues. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.920 Members of Congress, including Sheila Jackson, Lee, Corey Bush, Jamal Bowman, 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.760 and Barbara Lee sent a letter last week asking for 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.519 him to pay more attention to issues surrounding racial justice, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.200 including on HR forty, which has been introduced every Congress 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.480 since nineteen eighty six, I believe, first introduced by John 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:51.840 Conyers voting rights, banned books, recognizing that the United States 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.960 has a moral obligation for operations as well, and then 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.560 Barbara Lee's Commission on Truth, Racial Healing and Transformation and 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:04.000 to support that called out action NBJC National Black Justice Coalition, 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.160 which is led by our dear brother, doctor David Johns, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.560 as well as David Johnes yes it is his birthday 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.200 recording Happy Birthday, DJ, as well as more than one 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.480 hundred other civil rights organizations co signed on these requests. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:19.480 What do y'all think about this? 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.400 I would say My question is what exactly does racial 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.560 justice look like? I do, just to be factual here, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.800 want to remind everybody that Joe Biden did sign an 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.280 executive order on Racial Justice advancing Racial Equity. It was 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.480 his first executive order he signed in January of twenty 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:42.040 twenty one. He signed another one in February of last year, 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.119 so I think that's important as well. But Mike, I'm 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.200 gonna answer a question and throw it back to you guys, 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.080 because we're not a homogeneous group of people, and when 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.080 these executive orders are signed, it's a big tent. He's 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.520 not signing to advance racial equity for black people. It's 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.840 this design to it cast a wide net to include 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.920 a lot of people, which I think is absolutely fair 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.559 and appropriate. But what exactly, like, what are the tangibles 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.680 that we're asking for? And I think some people don't 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.600 realize that in order to achieve true racial equity and 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:19.880 racial justice, it requires cooperation from the state and local governments. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.240 That is a huge point. It requires a commitment from 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:27.640 territorial and tribal governments. So collectively, I think we have 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.440 to consider what this means at large. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.480 You know, one thing, I just want to one point 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.320 of clarity, Sorry, Andrew, I want to make sure that 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.599 I'm clear about this. They aren't asking for like the 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.960 equity order that he an executive action that he initially did. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.320 This is calling for specific action that is in alignment 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.440 with some of those bills, So the reparations pieces, the 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.240 band books piece, this is voting rights Act, the John R. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:52.640 Lewis Voting Rights Act. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.360 Because why Congress is taking no action, so they're pleading 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.279 with Joe Biden to step in where Congress has dropped 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.040 the ball about that, Andrew just wanted to clarify that no, no, no. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.800 I think, well what I was gonna say, I think 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.120 there may be ten pieces of legislation that they are 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.880 referencing back to in this in this, in this letter. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.440 The problem is is it doesn't appear, at least in 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.760 my humble opinion, that Congress is taking any leads from 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:22.279 Joe Biden. They're not taking any leads from Democrats in Congress, who, frankly, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.600 after the results of the election, what two weeks ago, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.000 Republicans only have two votes, two members of their caucus 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.919 that they can lose on any vote in order to 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:37.320 move anything. Tiffany brought up a really great point, which 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.919 is local and state governments needing to also contemplate, and 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.960 better than contemplate, take action in furtherance of racial equity. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.359 And we know in some parts of this country that 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.839 conversation will get zero zero seconds, But in other parts, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.919 if you're a city council member, a mayor, a school 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.080 board member, consider what you can do at your respect 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:05.520 level with regards to bidding contracting guidelines. I'll give you 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.400 one example. When I was on in Tallahassee City Commission, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.919 we had a guideline that required in order for you 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:16.200 to compete to do bond work, which is multi millions, billions, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.360 trillions of dollars moving, you had to have been around 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.400 like thirty years, forty years in the business. Well, who 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.440 wasn't in the business for forty years ago? 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:25.320 Forty years ago? 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:31.560 It was a pointless in my opinion, expectation. And through 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.760 a lot of hard work and due diligence and some standoffs, 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.279 we changed that policy so that it looked more like 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:43.720 what was required to get diversity included in that practice. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.600 So just know, at whatever level you are, there are 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.880 steps you can take and furtherance of this idea of 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.919 increasing expanding racial equity and racial justice. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.839 But what if you're not an elected official. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.000 You can advocate, You can advocate, raise your voice, go 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.320 down and ask and guess what you might not even 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.000 meet a resistant audience. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:04.400 You might meet people who. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.880 Just never considered what it might mean to have to 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.240 expect for somebody to be in business forty years in 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.920 order to do business with you right, and just ask 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.320 the questions. Sometimes by just asking the question, you can 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:16.520 move move some of this stuff. 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.560 Speaking of advocating, we have some very active listeners and 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.840 audience members. Every single week we have a question on 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.520 one of the subjects raised in these letters on reparations 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.600 from Monica William Harris, Let's roll that. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.440 Hey, Native Lamb Podcast. Monica WILLIAMS. Harris here from Atlanta, 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.680 wanted to get your thoughts quickly on this idea of 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.680 reparations in terms of why it is when it comes 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:44.239 to the idea of reparations as it relates to the 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:48.840 descendants of enslaved Africans, the issue of funding always comes up, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:52.800 ironically when it comes to other groups of people. In 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.800 terms of reparations, there seems to be this unlimited bucket 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:01.640 of money to pay reparations, and reparation absolutely do the 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.320 descendants of those other groups whose ancestors face atrocities. So 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:08.560 just wondering what your thoughts are in terms of the 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.760 why there seems to be a bucket. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.240 Of money for one and not so much a bucket 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:13.760 of money. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.920 Or piecemeal distribution for us. Thanks so much. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.920 I appreciate the question, and I think she sounds like 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.960 she's on par with one hundred plus organizations that have 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:25.560 asked you know, President Biden away in here and of 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:30.560 course most recently as well, descendants of enslaved people who 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:36.200 worked on the Saint Louis University campus in Missouri, nearly 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.080 two hundred people, right, and they say, now that equates 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.559 to more than seventy billion dollars in reparations. I think 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.280 their following suit watching what happened at Georgetown. So this 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.920 is a question that not only deserves to be answered, 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.760 but I also understand our frustration around seeing other folks 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.640 historically benefiting when people when we say reparations, it sounds 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.920 like it's a foreign language. But we've seen other groups 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:04.040 of people see restorative and repairative justice for harm done, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.600 and we never we never get our share or our say. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.960 And it's not just you know, specific to this country, 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.240 but even the United States, the reparations they paid to 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.679 victims of the internment camps during the war, for the 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.079 Japanese internment camps. It was also the federal government compensating 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.600 victims of the Tuskegee Experiment, which you know, obviously with 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:33.800 black people Florida, your state, Andrew compensate victims of Rosewood, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.040 the Rosewood Riot in nineteen twenty three. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:36.439 But on a. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.640 Global scale, we've seen this done in South Africa they 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.800 have set up a reparations program post apartheid. In Germany 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.760 they set up a reparations program to compensate victims of 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.079 the Holocaust. So it's really this shame on the United 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:55.160 States to be so readily resistant to making this right, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.120 because we are capable, it could literally happen. And just 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.240 to remind folks in brought up HR forty. HR forty 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.160 is exactly that to study, and she was Jackson Lee. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:06.480 I have to give her a shout out because she 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.920 picked up that mantle from Congressman Conyers. It is just 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:14.480 a study to see to examine what that would look like, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:19.840 to examine the financial impact of what black people contributed 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.320 to this country. And to remind folks the reason why 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.520 the United States is a superpower is because of enslavement. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.400 It is because of cotton, sugar, et cetera. That black 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:37.640 people picked contributed during enslavement that made this country a superpower. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.000 We are literally the only reason and we have never 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:43.160 seen the wealth that we helped create for the country. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.120 Yeah, I just think it's good, great, great points to 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.880 if I just add that the root word in reparations 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.960 is like to repair, and to repair something means there 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.920 must have been a breach at some point, and the 0:10:55.960 --> 0:11:02.400 breach was, frankly, the usury of human labor, the trafficking 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.400 of humans, the usury of human labor, and the indignity 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.000 that slavery and enslavement represented. And always simply saying is 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.440 you gotta pay to quote Beyonce, you gotta pay me 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.360 what you owe me. No one's asking for giveaways, no 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.480 free stuff. We're saying you have to compensate the folks 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.000 who did the work, who did the labor, who built 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:27.240 this joint Angela Rii for free, because we're now saying, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.360 had we had our choice in the matter, it wouldn't 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.080 have been free. It would have been just like the 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.640 rest of your countrymen who got paid for the work 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.000 that they did during that time. So I just think 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.080 the conversation and reparations is so heated it causes such 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:47.880 a visceral reaction. For you know, quite frankly, the majority 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.679 community and even some of us really are highly suspect 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.599 of the conversation because of what it suggests and I 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.480 think part of what it suggests to people is that 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.760 you got folks who don't deserve something coming again begging 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.760 and asking for something for free. And we're not asking 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.559 for anything for free. We're saying, quote, pay me what 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:07.839 you owe, me what. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.000 You owe me, and speaking of people who need to 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.600 pay what they owe. I want to toss to sound 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.280 where black folks weigh in on. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.400 Donald Trump versus Joe Biden. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.680 Trump obiderup say that the business man he's gonna think 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.680 and Biden is a racist? 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.720 Who do you think it's done more for the black community? Trump? 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.040 Bider. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.319 I ain't even see Biden yet. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.640 I know Trump was out, he was at b he 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.280 was God. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.920 That's why he built has wall. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.040 Michael came over and everything. And you know we've been 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.280 here for all the time and can't get are Hamburger 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.040 and they come here get all this ship. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:44.560 I'm saying. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.040 So that's why I say, yeah, Biden, he ain't going 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.640 to hensh it. So, but Trump, I would feel that 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.200 he will be the better person to get in Biden. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.240 I don't think, honestly, I don't think we should play 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.040 a lot of that. I don't think, yeah, I don't 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.760 think any of I don't I didn't know that. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.520 I want to play some of it. I do not 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:06.479 want to play. 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.200 A whole commercial. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.000 That's why it is ridiculous, and that's why I want 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.680 to talk about it. Because this video is very clearly 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.800 edited to only cover the folks from Trump. This is 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.960 in Chicago. I'm not at all supporting this. That's not 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.960 the purpose of this. It's to demonstrate how much misinformation 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:31.440 has impacted our community. Folks thinking that the stock market 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.719 was better under Donald Trump. Folks thinking that our community 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.520 did better under Donald Trump. Where is that coming from? 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.319 And when are we going to begin hitting back? Well, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.960 Donald Trump now goes to sneaker con to sling sneakers 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.280 because that's another way to reach black folks in the 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:49.199 most stereotypical way. So if we can roll what happened 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.440 when he goes to Philly. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.840 I just want to thank you very much for being here. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.240 It's an honor, it's an honor. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.640 Your sneakerheads, your sneaker heads tried. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.560 Wow, a lot of emotion. There's a lot of emotion 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:07.600 and the real. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.479 I feel. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.040 So as you can hear Donald Trump gets booed. I'm 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.520 trying to understand the timing of this, But interestingly enough, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.280 he starts to sling this sneaker just the day after 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.680 he gets slapped with a three hundred and fifty five 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.760 million dollar verdict in a fraud lawsuit. That's just the 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.720 first of many, by the way, and now he's trying 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.200 to raise money for his legal fees. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.120 Let me just say about that video. One, that video 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.040 does not represent any real constituency. I think it's really 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.320 dangerous to perpetuate that kind of messaging. I don't know 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.760 anything about Black Conservative, whatever the network was, or anybody 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.400 anything about who shot it or what the circumstances were, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.400 So I just want to make that super clear. And two, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.920 there are not droves of people black people lining up 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.920 to support Donald Trump. That is a lie that is perpetuated, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.200 and we certainly do not want to perpetuate that here 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:07.000 on Native lampod. I think the most important question is 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.600 what is his base doing. We're not going to pluck 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.320 five asinine sounding people from our community to say that 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.520 that represents something it absolutely does not. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:21.360 And on those same way, is that the credit they 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.960 were given to Trump are the things that Biden has accomplished. 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.840 The best stock market performance in history is right now 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.320 under the Biden administration. As a result of Biden policies 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:38.320 pursued largely and passed under a Democratic control Congress, since 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:43.320 they have come into into power, they have moved absolutely 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.760 nothing in the interests of the American people. Trump didn't 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.280 even know what the hell he was doing when he 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.080 was there the first time. I again, I don't know 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:54.080 if these folks were paid. I don't know what the 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:59.400 hell the primer was prior to them doing this performative mess, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.880 you know, so that we just witness, and I'm pretty 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.920 enraged because this is the kind of stuff that gets 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.880 moved around and gives people the sense that there is 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.560 a real constituency, I mean a real constituency out there 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.920 for black folks getting on the bandwagon of Donald Trump. 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.200 And I just got to say, I don't see it. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.640 I don't know what that mess was we just saw, 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.400 but it is it is not evidenced in any of 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.200 the polls, any other numbers, any of anything anywhere. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.160 We have our. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.520 Critiques about age, we have our critiques about the things 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.320 that we want more of, for sure, there's no doubt 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.640 about it. But what I know about black folks around 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.000 this country, while we are not a monolith. We are 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.040 pragmatic people and at the end of the day, what 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.160 we're going to vote for are our interests, our survival 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.520 in our future. And when given the choice between Donald 0:16:54.520 --> 0:17:00.520 Trump and Joe Biden against that matrix, there ain't no competition. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.400 Biden winds hands down every time. Now, that doesn't remove 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.040 pressure from from from from us applying pressure for more 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:07.960 to do better. 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.280 There's a lot that has to be covered. I get it, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.640 but that ain't it. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.120 I don't know what he is, but that ain't Yeah. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.439 Well, I just think the danger of playing something like that, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.440 if you're not going to go back and fact check 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.280 every little thing that they said that's wrong, then people 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.439 do pull from that and think, oh, this is how 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.600 people feel. So I just want to be crystal clear 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.520 that we that's not what we're doing here. We didn't 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.920 fact check every little thing, but much of that was 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:34.320 a lie. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.000 Now, also, I think I did say that a lot 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:37.840 of that was not true. 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.200 I think Andrew just says, no, I. 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.560 Know, I understand that you all said generally, but I'm 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.520 saying specifically, if you go through each thing they said, Okay, 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.320 well he just said X, let me tell you why 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.719 X is not true and break that down, and I 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.040 just I know we don't have time to do it 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.280 because it sounds I love that. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:53.920 Yeah. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.360 Also, I also think that it is important to understand 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.520 that there are people like no doubt, sound like that 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.240 in our community. It is true there are breakfast club 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:05.600 callers who sound like that. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.040 So I'm also not going to take. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.760 That away because that is your experience. It does not 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.560 make it factual. And so that is the importance of 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.560 podcasts like this, of platforms like this to ensure you 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.040 do know the facts. Because someone put their name on 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.520 a stimulus check does not mean that's the only stimulus 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.960 check you received, right, there was a stimulus check in 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.440 this administration. There was another attempt that Republican Republican led 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:27.240 Congress block. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.400 I just I want to be of sound mind, embody, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:38.120 and spirit on this last piece because I agree with 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.239 you that there are sentiments out there that are in 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.000 some ways reflective a bit of what we just heard. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:52.080 But the cautionary piece here is when you see that 0:18:52.240 --> 0:19:00.399 many voices spewing that much incorrectness and craziness, it gives 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.000 I think it may potentially lead people with the opinion 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:07.119 that the constituency of that group is larger than what 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:12.119 it is. And I hear people with those kinds of 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.439 critiques who didn't derive at the conclusion that then Donald 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.879 Trump was going to be the answer. I hear critics 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.920 that I ain't have nothing done in my community since. 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:21.560 D Da da da da da. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.400 I hear that, but then jumping to the logical conclusion, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.080 they don't draw the logical conclusion that Donald Trump then 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.879 is going to be the answer, the cure, the balm 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:36.080 in Gilead. He ain't that. And I accept the challenge 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.919 of us following this up with a fact check, a 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.360 mini pod fact check that we can circulate and make 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:45.680 sure and hopefully maybe get in front of some of 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.719 these people so that they know fact from fiction. If 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.520 we were writting a fiction book, that'd be one thing. 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.600 We're trying to live and today survive and not just 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.359 survive but thrive. And this whole thing is a setback. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.000 Because we almost out of time. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.000 Like the point is, the point is to understand that 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.560 people are they are playing this shit. 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:09.680 On Fox News. 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.160 I get they have him going to sneaker con There 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.360 are ill informed leaders in our community, people who look 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.840 up to folks as role models that carry mikes, not 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.600 because they're in political debates, but because some of them 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:28.080 are rappers saying the same thing. The misinformation is pervasive, 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:33.800 and when you tap, you combine misinformation with experience that 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:38.960 feels unjust and that feels oppressive. People are being led 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.560 to believe that this is the right answer. I did them, 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.119 and this is the same conversation we had last week. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.199 At some point, there has to be a wider gap drawn. 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.480 The reason that these folks in Congress and these civil 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.439 rights organizations signed a letter is because there has to 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.640 be a wider gap drawn, a wider gap created. That's 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.600 the bottom line there. It should be no competition, there 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:02.879 should be no confusion. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.840 In my opinion, the bottom line is is what we 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:10.240 are bottling up here are over four hundred years of 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:15.920 systematic agree oppression of a people's And just as we 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.160 sat in front of Barack Obama and asked him, as 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.359 the first African American president, what are you going to 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.080 do for us to cure all these ills? What was 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.600 made clear then and it is true today that we 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.200 can't cure four hundred years of oppression in four years 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.960 or even eight years. And so I just think we 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.320 have to be careful at where we lay the burden 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:39.479 of this, that the burden of it goes across all 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:43.360