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Speaker 2: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode seven of Native LAMPI where we break

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Speaker 1: down all that's happening in politics.

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Speaker 2: With a little bit of culture too.

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Speaker 1: We are your host, Tiffany Cross, angela Ryan Andrew Gillim

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Speaker 1: and we are still celebrating Black History Month, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Celebrating, yeah, celebrating.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely happy Black History. Absolutely we are.

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Speaker 2: At this time.

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Speaker 1: stay stay because we're a little competitive out this way.

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Speaker 2: I got bars too, Tips, I like it. I like it,

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Speaker 2: ay Ry.

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Speaker 4: What do you say?

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Speaker 3: Standing on business with a Ry Tents Tino?

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Speaker 2: All right, all right.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we are going to discuss the long

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Speaker 1: and windy road that is the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is being pushed on racial justice by black

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Speaker 1: members of Congress and civil rights organizations more than one

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Speaker 1: hundred to be exact. Donald Trump launched a sneaker brand

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Speaker 1: because we were definitely looking.

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Speaker 2: For that and maybe Maga Maga Red Bottoms might.

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Speaker 1: Help him pay off that three hundred and fifty five

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Speaker 1: million dollar judgment. Nicki Haley is vowing to stay in

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Speaker 1: the race to the very end of Super Tuesday, that is,

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Speaker 1: And with the Michigan primary coming up on February twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: we want to know, Michigan, who y'all got. Are you

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Speaker 1: going with the Rashida to Leave strategy or are you

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Speaker 1: gonna vote Joe Biden. Fannie Willis was actually cashing out

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Speaker 1: in Napa Valley, according to the recollection of an employee

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Speaker 1: who remembers her in politics are everywhere. Beyonce is in

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Speaker 1: the top spot in country music because Black History Month

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Speaker 1: is an amazing time to remind white folk that we

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Speaker 1: did that first too. And speaking of country logic, Alabama's

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court says, embryos are children. Stick around, and you

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Speaker 1: know we'll hear from you getting into those audience questions.

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Speaker 1: And it would not be NLP without some calls to

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Speaker 1: action too.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, let's get it.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna start off with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: He's being called to the carpet on racial justice related issues.

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Speaker 1: Members of Congress, including Sheila Jackson, Lee, Corey Bush, Jamal Bowman,

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Speaker 1: and Barbara Lee sent a letter last week asking for

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Speaker 1: him to pay more attention to issues surrounding racial justice,

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Speaker 1: including on HR forty, which has been introduced every Congress

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Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty six, I believe, first introduced by John

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Speaker 1: Conyers voting rights, banned books, recognizing that the United States

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Speaker 1: has a moral obligation for operations as well, and then

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Speaker 1: Barbara Lee's Commission on Truth, Racial Healing and Transformation and

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Speaker 1: to support that called out action NBJC National Black Justice Coalition,

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Speaker 1: which is led by our dear brother, doctor David Johns,

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Speaker 1: as well as David Johnes yes it is his birthday

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Speaker 1: recording Happy Birthday, DJ, as well as more than one

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Speaker 1: hundred other civil rights organizations co signed on these requests.

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Speaker 2: What do y'all think about this?

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Speaker 3: I would say My question is what exactly does racial

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Speaker 3: justice look like? I do, just to be factual here,

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Speaker 3: want to remind everybody that Joe Biden did sign an

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Speaker 3: executive order on Racial Justice advancing Racial Equity. It was

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Speaker 3: his first executive order he signed in January of twenty

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Speaker 3: so I think that's important as well. But Mike, I'm

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Speaker 3: because we're not a homogeneous group of people, and when

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Speaker 3: these executive orders are signed, it's a big tent. He's

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Speaker 3: not signing to advance racial equity for black people. It's

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Speaker 3: this design to it cast a wide net to include

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Speaker 3: and appropriate. But what exactly, like, what are the tangibles

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Speaker 3: that we're asking for? And I think some people don't

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Speaker 3: realize that in order to achieve true racial equity and

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Speaker 3: That is a huge point. It requires a commitment from

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Speaker 1: You know, one thing, I just want to one point

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Speaker 1: of clarity, Sorry, Andrew, I want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: This is calling for specific action that is in alignment

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Speaker 1: with some of those bills, So the reparations pieces, the

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Speaker 1: Because why Congress is taking no action, so they're pleading

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Speaker 5: I think, well what I was gonna say, I think

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Speaker 5: there may be ten pieces of legislation that they are

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Speaker 5: referencing back to in this in this, in this letter.

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Speaker 5: The problem is is it doesn't appear, at least in

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Speaker 5: my humble opinion, that Congress is taking any leads from

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden. They're not taking any leads from Democrats in Congress, who, frankly,

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Speaker 5: after the results of the election, what two weeks ago,

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Speaker 5: Republicans only have two votes, two members of their caucus

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Speaker 5: that they can lose on any vote in order to

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Speaker 5: better than contemplate, take action in furtherance of racial equity.

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Speaker 5: And we know in some parts of this country that

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Speaker 5: if you're a city council member, a mayor, a school

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Speaker 5: level with regards to bidding contracting guidelines. I'll give you

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Speaker 5: one example. When I was on in Tallahassee City Commission,

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Speaker 5: we had a guideline that required in order for you

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Speaker 5: trillions of dollars moving, you had to have been around

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Speaker 5: like thirty years, forty years in the business. Well, who

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Speaker 5: wasn't in the business for forty years ago?

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Speaker 6: Forty years ago?

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Speaker 5: It was a pointless in my opinion, expectation. And through

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Speaker 5: So just know, at whatever level you are, there are

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Speaker 3: But what if you're not an elected official.

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Speaker 5: You can advocate, You can advocate, raise your voice, go

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Speaker 6: You might meet people who.

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Speaker 5: Just never considered what it might mean to have to

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Speaker 5: expect for somebody to be in business forty years in

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Speaker 1: Speaking of advocating, we have some very active listeners and

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Speaker 1: audience members. Every single week we have a question on

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Speaker 1: one of the subjects raised in these letters on reparations

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Speaker 1: from Monica William Harris, Let's roll that.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Native Lamb Podcast. Monica WILLIAMS. Harris here from Atlanta,

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Speaker 7: wanted to get your thoughts quickly on this idea of

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Speaker 7: reparations in terms of why it is when it comes

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Speaker 7: to the idea of reparations as it relates to the

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Speaker 7: descendants of enslaved Africans, the issue of funding always comes up,

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Speaker 7: ironically when it comes to other groups of people. In

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Speaker 7: terms of reparations, there seems to be this unlimited bucket

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Speaker 7: of money to pay reparations, and reparation absolutely do the

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Speaker 7: descendants of those other groups whose ancestors face atrocities. So

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Speaker 7: just wondering what your thoughts are in terms of the

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Speaker 7: why there seems to be a bucket.

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Speaker 6: Of money for one and not so much a bucket

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Speaker 7: Or piecemeal distribution for us. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the question, and I think she sounds like

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Speaker 1: she's on par with one hundred plus organizations that have

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Speaker 1: asked you know, President Biden away in here and of

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Speaker 1: course most recently as well, descendants of enslaved people who

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Speaker 1: two hundred people, right, and they say, now that equates

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Speaker 1: to more than seventy billion dollars in reparations. I think

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Speaker 1: their following suit watching what happened at Georgetown. So this

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Speaker 1: but I also understand our frustration around seeing other folks

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Speaker 1: historically benefiting when people when we say reparations, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like it's a foreign language. But we've seen other groups

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Speaker 1: of people see restorative and repairative justice for harm done,

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Speaker 1: and we never we never get our share or our say.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just you know, specific to this country,

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Speaker 3: but even the United States, the reparations they paid to

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Speaker 3: Japanese internment camps. It was also the federal government compensating

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Speaker 6: But on a.

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Speaker 3: Global scale, we've seen this done in South Africa they

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Speaker 3: to remind folks in brought up HR forty. HR forty

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Speaker 3: to examine the financial impact of what black people contributed

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Speaker 3: It is because of cotton, sugar, et cetera. That black

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's good, great, great points to

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Speaker 5: if I just add that the root word in reparations

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Speaker 5: is like to repair, and to repair something means there

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Speaker 5: must have been a breach at some point, and the

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Speaker 5: breach was, frankly, the usury of human labor, the trafficking

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Speaker 5: you gotta pay to quote Beyonce, you gotta pay me

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Speaker 5: what you owe me. No one's asking for giveaways, no

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Speaker 5: this joint Angela Rii for free, because we're now saying,

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Speaker 9: I ain't even see Biden yet.

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Speaker 8: Michael came over and everything. And you know we've been

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Speaker 1: That's why it is ridiculous, and that's why I want

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Speaker 1: the purpose of this. It's to demonstrate how much misinformation

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Speaker 1: And when are we going to begin hitting back? Well,

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Speaker 5: I just want to thank you very much for being here.

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Speaker 6: It's an honor, it's an honor.

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Speaker 5: And on those same way, is that the credit they

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Speaker 6: We have our.

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Speaker 5: Critiques about age, we have our critiques about the things

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Speaker 6: There's a lot that has to be covered. I get it,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what he is, but that ain't Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just think the danger of playing something like that,

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Speaker 1: Now, also, I think I did say that a lot

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Speaker 1: That away because that is your experience. It does not

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Speaker 5: I just I want to be of sound mind, embody,

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Speaker 1: Like the point is, the point is to understand that

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Speaker 1: I get they have him going to sneaker con There

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, the bottom line is is what we

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Speaker 5: I'm getting hot as I think about it.

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Speaker 1: You should should get emotional. This is our people, this

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Speaker 5: I am emotional about it, but I'm mostly emotional about

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Speaker 5: organization structures that exist. And that's what has to be leveled.

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Speaker 5: And when I think about who's going to contribute to

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Speaker 5: leveling them, I think between two people. It's sure as hell,

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Speaker 5: ain't God damn Donald Trump, no idea.

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Speaker 1: And to that point, I appreciate that Black History Month

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Speaker 1: lesson in this very important Black History Month.

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Speaker 2: And just like Nicki Haley is nearly.

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Speaker 1: Out of time Nicki for her her presidential run, We're

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Speaker 1: out of time. We're gonna take this commercial break and

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back. There is a Republican primary coming

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Speaker 1: up this weekend. Nicki Haley is still in the race,

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Speaker 1: but we don't have time to talk about her race,

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Speaker 1: and neither do the polls. Hardly what we talk about Angela.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I did. I think the people have spoken.

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Speaker 5: But Nikki said, I don't care what happened on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: I'm standing in this thing. I'm riding to the faux

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Speaker 5: flat tires.

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Speaker 2: Plus you know they flat, both they flat.

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Speaker 1: So here's what's not flat, though, the Michigan primary, which

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Speaker 1: is coming up next Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I think that we need to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: So Congressoman Rashida Talib, who is the only Palestinian American

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Speaker 1: in Congress right now who has family in Palestine, who's

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Speaker 1: been deeply moved and greed. It's grieving what's happening over

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Speaker 1: there has made the following request of Michigan primary voters.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. That's just the way you can

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Speaker 2: raise our voices.

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Speaker 6: Don't make us even more invisible.

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Speaker 5: Right now, we feel completely neglected.

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Speaker 2: And just unseen by our government.

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Speaker 5: If you want us to be louder, then come here

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Speaker 5: and vote uncommitted.

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Speaker 1: So you all will recall that in Nevada recently, none

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Speaker 1: of these candidates beat Nikki Hayley, and it sounds like

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Speaker 1: Rashida Talib is hoping for something similar in Michigan. I

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Speaker 1: think my question is, if they're voting uncommitted in a primary,

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Speaker 1: is that an effective protest vote strategy? And if who

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Speaker 1: they got, like, who's their other option? Is that the

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Speaker 1: same effect as staying at home? If you go uncommitted?

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Speaker 2: What do y'all think?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: I Andrew and I had a conversation one time, and

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Speaker 3: I feel bad because I have quoted Andrew on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: And then people start doing these little shared stories like

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Speaker 3: don't expect the hyena to act like a lion and

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Speaker 3: put my name underneath. That was not me, that is Andrew,

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Speaker 3: but we sell it from somebody, so praise the Lord.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Because people be listening to this podcast is still in

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Speaker 1: it for their own but I carry into.

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Speaker 3: But I think you know, but I think the Andrew

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Speaker 3: you made a really good point about black people and

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Speaker 3: our imaginations and what it means to envision a democracy

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Speaker 3: that serves us. And because we have been so oppressed

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Speaker 3: in this country that we have always had to vote

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Speaker 3: how we think them majority of white people might vote,

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Speaker 3: We've never had the privilege of being able to pick

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Speaker 3: a candidate who truly inspires us and speaks for us,

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Speaker 3: save for the exception of I would say, for a

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Speaker 3: lot of people president former President Barack Obama. So I

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Speaker 3: will toss it back to you guys to say, what

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Speaker 3: if not for a protest vote? And if we're going

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Speaker 3: towards a society where there will be no racial majority

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Speaker 3: by the year twenty forty, then we have to start

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Speaker 3: getting used to voting for candidates, driving the narrative around

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Speaker 3: who votes for candidates, But what does a protest vote

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Speaker 3: look like for us right now as we're on the

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Speaker 3: journey to getting to that. Because I don't want to

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Speaker 3: just like discard people like Rashida to Lee for saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is something that's important, but on the other side,

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Speaker 3: I do understand, Hey, there are you know, needs that

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Speaker 3: your constituents have that that have to be met, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know how impactful it is to not vote

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Speaker 3: for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, the good I mean, I guess is for folks.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say we should we should frame that.

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Speaker 5: What she's advocating for is in this primary, which are

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Speaker 5: Democrats only and then Republicans only, and then they will

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Speaker 5: produce a nominee. She's saying, when it gets to Michigan,

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Speaker 5: and we're supposed to be voting for who we think

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Speaker 5: got to represent the Democratic Party. And by the way, nationally,

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Speaker 5: nobody's talked about who else is runing against Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: But there are other Democrats competing for the Democratic nomination.

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Speaker 5: There are not any names that I can repeat here,

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Speaker 5: there are, or so there will be other people on

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Speaker 5: their ballot. Joe Biden will likely walk away with it there.

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Speaker 5: Any way, what she's saying is is go in there

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Speaker 5: and show that you have a problem with the way

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Speaker 5: in which this war and uh in Israel is being

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Speaker 5: prosecuted and the accountability that appears to be missing when

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Speaker 5: it comes to America. Who is largely funding much of this.

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Speaker 5: UH appears to be willing to exert over net and Yahoo,

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Speaker 5: who has walked away from treaties, packs other agreements.

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Speaker 6: UH that that that that have.

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Speaker 5: Been hard fought and hard one. And Rashida, who is

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Speaker 5: the only Palestinian American I believe in the US Congress,

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Speaker 5: is seeing relatives, family members, her community, her people being

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Speaker 5: largely displaced and really under attack.

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Speaker 6: And that's that.

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Speaker 5: That, by the way, is not to say that Israel

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Speaker 5: hasn't also suffered greatly here in the process. But she's

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Speaker 5: saying there's gotta be some love, some accountability here, some

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Speaker 5: some humanity being exerted here. And I have to tell you,

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Speaker 5: if there's gonna be a protest vote, I much prefer

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Speaker 5: it in a primary election rather than when we get

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Speaker 5: to November and we are choosing between two people, largely

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Speaker 5: where one of.

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Speaker 6: Them is going to merge as president.

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Speaker 5: We gotta think, think critically about which one of those

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Speaker 5: choices are going to be in our long term best

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Speaker 5: interest for ourselves and for our children and for our

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Speaker 5: children's children.

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Speaker 6: And that's what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 5: So I will say I don't oppose what Rashida is

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Speaker 5: doing as It relates to getting out there and saying, Biden,

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Speaker 5: you need to hear the death of our anger, the

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Speaker 5: death of our concern, and this is how we're going

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Speaker 5: to show it to you. But come November, y'all, we

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Speaker 5: got two choices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we have right now, some upheaval

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Speaker 1: at the chancy that we don't know about exactly.

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Speaker 6: A choice. Booting is a choice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're going to broaden this thing out a little bit

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Speaker 1: and hear this listener question.

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Speaker 2: I love this one. It's from a college.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 10: My name is Katie Baron and I go to Burbingham

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Speaker 10: Southern College and I'm in the class of the Pillars

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Speaker 10: of Africana Thought. And our question for you for this

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Speaker 10: week was how do we incentivize elected officials who are

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Speaker 10: working on behalf of black people to speak to this

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Speaker 10: constituency and those who care about justice and equality more

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Speaker 10: directly as opposed to spending so much time trying to

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Speaker 10: convince those who are opposed to justice and freedom, particularly

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Speaker 10: in black and brown communities.

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Speaker 1: I love this question, and there's nobody better to answer

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Speaker 1: this than our very own Tiffany Cross, who is the

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Speaker 1: author of Say a.

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Speaker 2: Loud of it. Tell them, Tiff, what's the answer here?

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Speaker 6: Give it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, this only give us a little teaser though, make

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Speaker 1: them read the book.

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Speaker 2: Also, we got a time critics out to make a flight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know exactly. I'm gonna be real quick. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna be real quick. Here's the thing. When when politicians

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Speaker 3: talk about they they're deliverable, it's like what they want

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Speaker 3: to do for constituents. They scream and shout to every

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Speaker 3: constituency about what they can do. When they talk to

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Speaker 3: black people, it's a whisper and it's private and it's quiet.

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Speaker 3: Once I get in office, I'm gonna help you' all.

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Speaker 3: But hey, for the people who care about stem cell,

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Speaker 3: and hey to the people who don't want people to

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Speaker 3: have a choice, and hey to the people who care

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Speaker 3: about gun rights, we're gonna speak to you loudly. They

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Speaker 3: will spend more time trying to convince maga voters and

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Speaker 3: quote unquote swing voter who I don't exist to come

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Speaker 3: over to their side. Then they will to energize their base.

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Speaker 3: So we have to stop that. We have to start

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Speaker 3: leaning into our power and holding people accountable to make

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Speaker 3: sure that that happens. Furthermore, we have to start pressing

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Speaker 3: the media. I don't think people pay enough attention to

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Speaker 3: the outsized role that media plays and elections, and media

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Speaker 3: will often have people over and they'll ask a politician, well,

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Speaker 3: you're running as a Democrat, how do you plan on

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Speaker 3: convincing some of those red state MAGA voters or some

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Speaker 3: of those MAGA supporters to vote for you? Why is

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Speaker 3: that a relevant question to a Democrat running? Tell me

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Speaker 3: how you're gonna convince me dance with the one who

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Speaker 3: brung you. I don't want to hear how you're going

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Speaker 3: to convince the people who left you a long time ago,

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Speaker 3: the nineteen sixties, to be exact. So I think it's

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Speaker 3: a two part role. One the media has to stop

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Speaker 3: doing that bullshit because it is frustrating every single time

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Speaker 3: I hear it. And two, we have to stay true

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Speaker 3: and committed to our values and start tuning out the nonsense.

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Speaker 3: And we can go directly to the source. We can

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Speaker 3: go to their website, their page, and we have have

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Speaker 3: to just in this age where social media has democratized

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Speaker 3: who has a voice, we have to start holding them

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Speaker 3: accountable and look for what ways are you advancing issues

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Speaker 3: that are relevant to me my community? And for the

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Speaker 3: greater good.

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Speaker 2: I love you. Thanks. Okay, Andrew your favorite.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's no bigger stand for Fannie Willis

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Speaker 1: on this podcast than Andrew Gillim So aging got it?

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Speaker 2: No, I mean to bring us home.

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Speaker 5: Okay, listen, this will be this will be quick too,

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Speaker 5: because I know we spent some time doing a Facebook

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Speaker 5: live talking about UH.

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Speaker 2: Life, Instagram, my bad.

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Speaker 5: I look they owned by the same man, right, Kay,

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Speaker 5: all right there it is all I'm saying. Anyway, we've

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Speaker 5: all been I think enraptured. I know I was by

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Speaker 5: by the testimony of Fannie Lue Fannie Willis UH last week,

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Speaker 5: week before whatever, and then we talked about on the pod. Well,

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Speaker 5: a lot of people appeared to be shocked when she

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Speaker 5: said she pays in cash.

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Speaker 3: You're a woman and you go on a date with

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Speaker 3: a man, you better have two hundred dollars in your pocket,

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Speaker 3: so if that man acts up, you can go where

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Speaker 3: you want to go.

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Speaker 5: So I keep cash in my house, and I don't

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Speaker 5: keep cash as good in my purse like I used to.

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Speaker 7: I don't go on any dates, but when you go

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Speaker 7: on a date, should have cash in your pocket.

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Speaker 5: She got a lot of feedback from a lot of

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Speaker 5: people and maybe even some suspicion from those in the

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Speaker 5: system who said, no one does that, it's not true.

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Speaker 5: So let me talk to this clip where we hear

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Speaker 5: from somebody who might confirm her use of cash.

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Speaker 9: Stan Brody told me that he hosted Fonnie Willis and

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Speaker 9: Nathan Wade at Acumen Wines back in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 9: when they both visited this winery in Napo Valley, California,

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Speaker 9: where Bonnie Willis put the bill.

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Speaker 4: I ran up to saying, and I showed her I

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Speaker 4: was expecting a credit card quite frankly, and she just

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Speaker 4: I'll pay cash, and so that was that them. I

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Speaker 4: just put the cash in, made change for her, and

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Speaker 4: she was very generous to me.

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Speaker 5: I love that, he added in the last part, she

663
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Speaker 5: was very generous to me. I think we know what

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Speaker 5: that means. But that was her way there too, who

665
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Speaker 5: had his memory jogged from her visit to the winery

666
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Speaker 5: where she pulled out cash and she paid. And I'm

667
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Speaker 5: just saying for those of us who was suspect and

668
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Speaker 5: we were like, nobody pays in cash. Nobody has that, y'all.

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Speaker 5: Homegirl paid in cash.

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Speaker 1: I was I was not suggesting that people don't pay

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Speaker 1: paying cash.

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Speaker 2: I know black folks do paying cash.

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Speaker 1: I was more shocked, like you paid cash to the

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Speaker 1: dude on a date Like That's where I was like.

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Speaker 5: Whoa, hey, look, let me tell you that she bought

676
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Speaker 5: on that. When she talked about their disagreements and the

677
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Speaker 5: relationship and that she was.

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Speaker 6: You know, is equal.

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Speaker 5: She made the point and that's why I paid him back.

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Speaker 5: I mean, she was pretty clear about that, and you know,

681
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Speaker 5: I believed her then. But I'm glad to see that

682
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Speaker 5: somebody has come out to say, in fact, I have

683
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Speaker 5: no interest in this, but in fact I was a waiter.

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Speaker 5: I was surprised she did it. I took that cash,

685
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Speaker 5: and guess what, she was very generous to me.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to remind people the person on

687
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Speaker 3: trial is the former president Donald Trump, who we have

688
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: heard numerous times on a phone call asking elected officials

689
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Speaker 3: there to find him an additional eleven thousand votes. The

690
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: mere question of if DA Fannie willis financially benefited from

691
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Speaker 3: hiring a qualified attorney on her team with whom she

692
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: happened to have a previous relationship is completely asinine when

693
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Speaker 3: we're looking at what she is, what case she has

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Speaker 3: built against this president and what he actually did, the

695
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: crime that he actually committed, and we have evidence that

696
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: we've all heard. So we spent way too much time

697
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 3: talking about this black woman's dating life and trying to

698
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: question her every move, and not enough time helping that

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Speaker 3: the judge there makes the right decision by keeping her

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Speaker 3: on the case.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they definitely gonna call me a trump

702
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: plant today because this.

703
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: Is y'all know already.

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00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: We talked so much about this on our Instagram live too.

705
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Speaker 1: But I do believe that as an attorney myself, you

706
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: have to be above approach. And in the Fulton County

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Speaker 1: trial where Trump is a lead defendant, he has eighteen

708
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: co defendants, so no wonder they're all in Fine's mix.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe the issue here isn't just whether

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00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: she benefited financially from the relationship. It is also whether

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00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: there is a material conflict. It has since been broadened

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Speaker 1: beyond that initial scope to whether or not there was

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Speaker 1: a material conflict that means she should be disqualified from

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Speaker 1: prosecuting this particular case.

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Speaker 2: I think that that still is an issue, and the

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Speaker 2: judge judge hasn't yet ruled.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Angela, I just want to say I appreciate you

718
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 5: continuously reinserting why we're even here having this conversation about

719
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: the district attorney, But also I want to be clear

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Speaker 5: that the reason for them having gone down this road

721
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 5: and the first place was, in my opinion, not because

722
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: anybody legitimately thought. This woman is only prosecuting these defendants,

723
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: including Donald Trump, because she needed money to go on

724
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 5: a vacation or catch a plane or go to a winery.

725
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: That is that on his face to me, is just ridiculous,

726
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: But that has led us down this road where she's

727
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 5: had to go into far more detail than any of

728
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 5: us would like to about our personal affairs. And in

729
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 5: this case, I'm just I'm personally glad that she has

730
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: further validation that she was honest and truthful, and now

731
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 5: we can get back to the to the reason for

732
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 5: this case in the first place, which is the illegal

733
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Speaker 5: actions by Donald Trump and all of his squad.

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Speaker 1: Y'all young lawyers out there, be prepared for them to

735
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: be all in your mix if you try to take

736
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: on a big case. And in the speaking of mix,

737
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: we got to be all up in ours and pay

738
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Speaker 1: our bills. We're gonna take another break and be right back.

739
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: All right, we are back with one of our favorites.

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Speaker 1: This is politics are everywhere.

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Speaker 6: And it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's our girl, Tiff with the update. What's going on

743
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: in the world, Tiff? What are we talking about?

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00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 7: Why?

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Speaker 3: I just want to tell you all this ain't Texas,

746
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: ain't no hold them put them cards on the table,

747
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: because that's the being sad. And she is number one

748
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: on the country music chart. But let me tell you

749
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Speaker 3: why I'm excited about this number one. I've listened to

750
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: this song eighteen times. I've looked at all the line

751
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: dances that people are creating, and it's like, let me

752
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: just give you some guidance. If I can't learn this

753
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: in a few simple steps, y'all are doing advanced choreography.

754
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 3: That is a right, like who can do these line dances?

755
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 3: But I think why we're talking about this in all

756
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Speaker 3: seriousness is because of the resistance from some stations who

757
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: have refused to play her music. There's also been people

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Speaker 3: who are saying that she's not country, she can't be

759
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: country music. If you'll recall, she did a country so

760
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: before on her Lemonade album where she talked about her dad,

761
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Speaker 3: and the Grammys refused to accept that into the country category.

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Speaker 3: But there's been a long history, as I'm sure a

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Speaker 3: lot of our listeners and viewers know, of black people

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Speaker 3: in country music. In recent history, we have Tracy Chapman

765
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Speaker 3: with Fastcar, Darius Rucker of Hoody and the Blowfist are

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Speaker 3: also Latino Spanish speaking country singers. Country music originated in

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Speaker 3: the black tradition. There's a whole movement of black folks

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Speaker 3: that became reclaimed folk music. I remember growing up, growing

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Speaker 3: up in the eighties, there was always like a country

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Speaker 3: soul performance. I remember Patti LaBelle seeing duets with Dolly

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Speaker 3: Parton and so when when when when her country album dropped,

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Speaker 3: I was kind of excited because I thought, I when

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Speaker 3: I've seen like a lot of the country music fans

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Speaker 3: do these very involved line dances, I'm like, oh, this

775
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: would be interesting. I know our stuff was gonna be dope,

776
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Speaker 3: but it'll be interesting to see what they do with it.

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Speaker 3: And of course it's all these people having all this resistance.

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Speaker 3: What are y'all gonna stop being so terrible, you know,

779
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: not being terrible and celebrate talent and embrace this music.

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Speaker 3: Music is the one thing that that brings us together,

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Speaker 3: I think, and I think traditionally, if you look throughout history,

782
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: this is where we can align and build bridges. So

783
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Speaker 3: just just stop being terrible. We're so exhaustedly y'all being terrible.

784
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Speaker 3: Stop being terrible anyway. Have you learned the line dance Angela?

785
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Speaker 3: Have you learned the line dance we? I don't know

786
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Speaker 3: if y'all know this. Angela cannot work. I cannot work.

787
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: So I know, Shay, we got to try to get

788
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: a lesson from our girl, Andrew. Can you exactly, exactly

789
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: exactly have y'all got Have y'all downloaded the single yet

790
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: in sixteen Carriages?

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Speaker 1: Yea, I have downloaded you like I do. I like

792
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: sixteen carriages better. And we just want to note here

793
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Speaker 1: that because of Texas, Hold Them Beyonce just became the

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00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: first black woman artist with the number one country song

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Speaker 1: on Billboard. Yes, so we were just speaking in a

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Speaker 1: country music We're gonna get to a country part of

797
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: the world. We're talking about Alabama, where the Alabama Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court has ruled that unborn children are also children. This

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Speaker 1: is hitting me kind of personally because this is about

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Speaker 1: an IVF clinic where a patient went into a space

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Speaker 1: where they weren't supposed to go and they dropped several

802
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: fertilized eggs embryos on the ground and resulting in people

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Speaker 1: losing some embryos and not being able to pursue uh.

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Speaker 2: Their you know, their plans.

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Speaker 1: And now with this ruling, they are potentially putting IVF

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Speaker 1: clinics at risk of being able to further help couples

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Speaker 1: who may be dealing with infertility. There's a twenty six

808
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: year old who mentioned that she doesn't know what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. This ruling literally came down the day that

810
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Speaker 1: she was beginning injections.

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Speaker 2: For egg retrieval. So this is I don't unders.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why the government needs to be in

813
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Speaker 1: our business to this degree.

814
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Speaker 2: It is such an overreach, It is so gross.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait until bills start coming out all over

816
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: the country. There have already been a couple about regulating

817
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: men's use of viagra. I just think that once we

818
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: do that a little more, they will back up out

819
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Speaker 1: of the vagina.

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Speaker 2: It is really very It's just too much.

821
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's too much.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I do think there should be some regulation

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Speaker 1: in support for couples seeking infertility treatments.

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Speaker 2: I had four cycles of IVF that failed.

825
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Speaker 1: This is not what I mean by that, right, Like,

826
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Speaker 1: this ain't your business. Let me figure this out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And thank you Angela for even sharing though

828
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Speaker 3: you're for cycles that you've had, because millions of people

829
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Speaker 3: have gone through this or are presently going through this

830
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: across the country. So one, you're not alone. But legislation

831
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Speaker 3: like this certainly has an impact. And these are voters people,

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00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: these are voters. But I just want to point out

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00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: a little something about Alabama, who cares so much much

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Speaker 3: about children. Right now, there are over ten thousand kids

835
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Speaker 3: in foster care in the state of Alabama. There's been

836
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Speaker 3: a ten point seven percent increase of kids going to

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Speaker 3: foster care in the state of Alabama since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: So I would ask some of these people who are

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Speaker 3: not pro life but anti choice, how many children have

840
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Speaker 3: you adopted out of the foster care system, because that

841
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: is an option that they'd love to throw out to

842
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: people who are pro choice. And how concerned are you

843
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: about the children who are Have you shown up? Do

844
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: you volunteer, do you encourage other people? Are you involved

845
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: or are you just holding up protest signs or in

846
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 3: about what's happening in my snatch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that.

848
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Speaker 1: Also to the point, you know, Tip loves data on

849
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Speaker 1: that point, one in six people in this country are

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Speaker 1: impacted by infertility. So maybe we should treat this a

851
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Speaker 1: little more with a little more tender love and care.

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Speaker 5: Tender love, care, respect, Angela. As you know to I

853
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 5: thank God for our twins thanks to IVF and successful

854
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: yea treatment.

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: That's true.

856
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean it is the Supreme Court. I

857
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 5: don't know if you read the opinion, but the language

858
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: they use in the the invocation of of of of

859
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 5: what God's providence is and what he would want for us,

860
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 5: and what what he believes in and what he doesn't

861
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: it is I mean, I don't know where these people

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00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 5: went to law school. I don't know where their degrees

863
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 5: come from, but they have not a.

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Speaker 2: Law Roberts University.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

866
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Speaker 5: All I know is they've not only encroached on obviously

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Speaker 5: a woman's a woman's body and in the most terrible ways,

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Speaker 5: but they have they have also, in my opinion, completely

869
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 5: shredded the law. And I just hope that the people

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00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 5: in Alabama are are waking up to recognize that this

871
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 5: is an assault that is not at their doorstep but

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00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 5: in their bedrooms, and that they they got some work

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00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: to do down there. I guess I should say over there,

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Speaker 5: I'm in Florida.

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Speaker 6: Over there.

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00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Good point.

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Speaker 1: We have another listener's question from David. Let's roll it.

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00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 11: My name is David Hackney from Durham, North Carolina. Recently,

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Speaker 11: Sage Steele made a comment that the Black national anthem

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Speaker 11: lived every voice and saying was divisive. Oftentimes when they're uncomfortable,

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Speaker 11: they use that term divisive to describe us when we're

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Speaker 11: advocating for ourselves. The question is how do we change

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Speaker 11: this narrative and how do we get them to see

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Speaker 11: that their very own national anthem is divisive in itself

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Speaker 11: and it's often a trigger for many of our people.

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Speaker 11: Have a great day, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I love this question at the end, not at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: And there's some people who I don't feel like deserve platforms.

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Speaker 1: There are some people who decided that the line was

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Speaker 1: shorter on the other side of the isle, and if

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Speaker 1: they caped and cooned for the other side, that they

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Speaker 1: somehow would find fame. And she is one of those people.

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Speaker 1: How dare you talk about a national anthem that is

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Speaker 1: deeply spiritual to our people?

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Speaker 2: How dare you?

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Speaker 1: We have the stanza from the Black National Anthem included

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Speaker 1: in the very purpose of this podcast. How dare you?

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Speaker 1: I still do not stand for the national anthem to

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Speaker 1: this day because of how divisive it is, how triggering

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Speaker 1: it is. Now understanding what is in the second stanzas

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Speaker 1: Stanza by Francis Scott Key right like, how dare you

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the life of an enslaved person being

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Speaker 1: referenced in THEIRS, but you can't understand what it means

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Speaker 1: to be true to our God, true to our native land,

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Speaker 1: like through our tears, through our weary years.

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Speaker 2: Through all of the things.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to cite all the lyrics because say, Chah,

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Speaker 1: I don't even believe you ever heard it. But the

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Speaker 1: point is it's not divisive to highlight the black experience.

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Speaker 1: It is divisive to try to erase the black experience.

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Speaker 1: That is what is done in the actual American National Anthem.

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Speaker 1: It is not divisive for you to have to recollect history.

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Speaker 1: That is so sad that you feel that way. It

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Speaker 1: is so sad that you are so ashamed of your

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Speaker 1: black side, your black skin, that you will run and

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Speaker 1: revolt to the other side to make whiteness feel more comfortable.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how her.

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Speaker 3: Kids feel, because they're also black. So I wonder how

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Speaker 3: her kids like when they hear something like that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's clear Saint Stale is a confused, self hating,

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Speaker 3: half witted, chucking' and jiving idiot.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm just glad they revealed that they are

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Speaker 5: anti prayer, right, because the last stanza of the Negro

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Speaker 5: National Anthem is a prayer, God of our silenteers, God

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Speaker 5: of our weary years, God who has brought us thus

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Speaker 5: far along the way, Guy who has, by thy might

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Speaker 5: led us into the light.

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Speaker 6: Right. So first of.

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Speaker 3: All, we appreciate the flax that you know the last

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Speaker 3: verse of the National The real test is do you

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Speaker 3: know the second one?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: Yes? I do, because that.

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Speaker 2: No, not you, Andrew, Andrew got you.

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Speaker 1: I think tips point is like she probably hasn't even

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Speaker 1: read through the whole thing. And I'm saying, even like

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Speaker 1: even the people who are actually down for the cause

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Speaker 1: and haven't had their black cards revoke, many of us

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Speaker 1: do not know the second verse without at least a

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Speaker 1: little Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Got, I got a hum for a minute, and then

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Speaker 3: you talking about.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody should spend any time trying to

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Speaker 5: convince anybody who don't appreciate, doesn't value, doesn't understand what

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Speaker 5: that means to us to all of a sudden care,

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Speaker 5: I don't. That is the negro to me is so

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Speaker 5: so personal. That's why I love the fourth stands of

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Speaker 5: being a prayer.

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Speaker 6: Right, it is.

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Speaker 5: Third, it is, it is. It is built through struggle,

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Speaker 5: through harsh third.

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Speaker 6: Third. I'm sorry, nope, is that right?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Third? Yes, the third. Okay, No, you're right, you're right,

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Speaker 2: you're right that it's the third.

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Speaker 6: You're right, but you're wrong. It's the third.

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Speaker 2: It's the third. But that said, that's all we need

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Speaker 2: to say about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and pause for an ad break

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Speaker 1: and get back to Calls to Action. All right, So

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Speaker 1: we are back with our well, at least my favorite part,

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Speaker 1: Calls to Action. It's not a podcast with discussion with

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Speaker 1: us unless there's something to do. There's stuff that we

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Speaker 1: need for y'all to do. So we're gonna start off

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Speaker 1: this week with tip.

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Speaker 2: Tip has a good one. Tip what you got?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so you guys know, the State of the Union

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Speaker 3: is coming up on March seventh, and so I would

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Speaker 3: like to hear from our listeners and our viewers about

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Speaker 3: what you would like to hear President Biden address during

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Speaker 3: the State of the Union. Now, as you all know,

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Speaker 3: this is when he comes before a joint session of

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Speaker 3: Congress to actually give the State of our Union. So

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Speaker 3: we just want to hear from you how you feel

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Speaker 3: about it. We're going to play some of your responses

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Speaker 3: next week and we hope that it may even echo

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Speaker 3: chamber up to the White House so they can hear

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Speaker 3: what his base would like to hear him addressed in

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Speaker 3: the State of the Union. So that's our ask. It's

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Speaker 3: my call to action, but it's on behalf of my

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Speaker 3: co host Andrew and Angela. We really want to hear

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Speaker 3: from you, so shoot us a video. We want to

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Speaker 3: see those beautiful faces and so we can see you

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Speaker 3: and put together our own montage.

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Speaker 6: If you shy, you can write. If you're shy, no.

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Speaker 3: We need the sound, so please put it on video

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Speaker 3: and send it to us. It's hurt well.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, since you're so eager to double dutch in, why

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Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and do your call to action.

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Speaker 6: I just listen.

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Speaker 5: This past week or two, we've been spending my wife

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Speaker 5: and I spend some time helping our kids with their

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Speaker 5: Black History Month projects, which every fourth grader in the

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Speaker 5: school has to do, and then it goes to the

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Speaker 5: media center and then all the other kids in the

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Speaker 5: school get to go and visit and learn different Black

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Speaker 5: history facts. And I just my call to action is

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Speaker 5: my son presented his yesterday and we're surprised that not

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Speaker 5: anyone else in the class had heard of the individual.

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Speaker 5: And I would just like to encourage wherever you're from,

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Speaker 5: who you are, your background, whatever, that all of us

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Speaker 5: before this month, lets out takes the opportunity to lift

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Speaker 5: up some Black history in your own home, for your family,

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Speaker 5: your children, your whomever. Let's not take it for granted.

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Speaker 5: The school didn't allow them to talk about Martin Luther

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Speaker 5: King or Rosa Parks, because those are folks who are

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Speaker 5: largely in the regular curriculum of the school. So reach

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Speaker 5: out beyond the well known names and figures, and you know,

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Speaker 5: bring yourself a little education, and your family, your household,

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Speaker 5: in particularly if you've got kids, try to introduce them

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Speaker 5: to some of the lesser known lesser talked about individuals

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Speaker 5: and moments in black history.

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Speaker 2: I love now.

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Speaker 1: I did note that you said individual. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: the individual's name on jacks?

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Speaker 5: You're not going that wasn't important, so I wanted to

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Speaker 5: It is important, but most importantly, lift up the lesser,

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Speaker 5: the individuals who a lesser known, and question.

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Speaker 1: And answers and gifts. Mine is another big one for

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Speaker 1: our audience. As you all can probably tell, we are

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Speaker 1: working so hard to try to keep this podcast cast

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Speaker 1: under an hour. There's always so much happening, and even

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Speaker 1: though we love each other deeply, there's always a little

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Speaker 1: bit of nuance in our opinions, and so there's disagreement,

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Speaker 1: but with love and respect. Almost they almost killed me earlier,

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Speaker 1: but I think I'm checking.

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Speaker 2: I'm still here. I'm still here. I'm still here.

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Speaker 1: But my question for you all is we always talk

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Speaker 1: about a top five and wrap. I want us to

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Speaker 1: have a top five in topics, and every week we

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Speaker 1: want you all to pick a topic you want us

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Speaker 1: to address in the first half. We have these quick topics,

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Speaker 1: well they're supposed to be quick, but we'd love to hear.

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Speaker 2: From you all.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get folks in the spirit of voting,

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Speaker 1: and we want you to vote every week and not

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Speaker 1: only just sending your questions, not only sending what you

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Speaker 1: want to hear for state of the Union, but vote

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Speaker 1: on a topic you want us to address. Every week,

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Speaker 1: we'll send out the top five and have y'all vote

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Speaker 1: on that at the top of the week and before

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Speaker 1: we end the show, I want to remind everyone.

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Speaker 2: To leave us a review.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're downloading those episodes.

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Speaker 1: the audio, you can also follow us on social media.

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Speaker 2: At Native lamppod.

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Speaker 1: We are your hosts Angela Raie, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillum.

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Speaker 1: There are two hundred and fifty six days until election Day.

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