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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred. 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the occasion didn't notice I'm 32 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: not broke. You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEO, 33 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what he likes 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: to do, It's what he likes to share. Now it's 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Here we come, Here we go. Welcome to money making Conversations. 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm your man. Rashan McDonald love to talk about stuff 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: that will make you bring value to your life. Give 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: you a plan, a plan of action, because a lot 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: of people talk, they don't have a plan of action. 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: I have a plan of action. I have a short 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: term plan. I don't believe in anybody who's trying to 43 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: talk a year from now, two years, or not three years. 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Everything should be done on the six six week window. 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: That way, you readjusted. After you reach that goal in 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: six weeks, you have to short term your goals. That 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: way you can speed up your your your accomplishments. Because 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: what happens is most people make a mistake because they 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: have their goals set too high. Set small goals, reach 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: your small goals, build those small goals into bigger goals, 51 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: and then you have reached your ultimate goal, which is success. 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: That's called steps planning your steps of success. My next 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: guest is the founding chief executive and Managing Director of 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: gold As g O l d i E, a full 55 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: service a consumer driven brand marketing agency. A self educated 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: cultural anthropologist, she is a pioneer and culturally relevant purpose 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: driven marketing and it's the chief architect of one of 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: my all time favorite campaigns by Proctor and Gambles My 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: black is Beautiful. I can tell you how many times 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: I was part of that tour when I was doing radio. 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: She has been a featured political analysts on NBC News, MSNBC, CNN, 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: and HLN. Has been a guest on program such as 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher, The Dr Field Show, 64 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: The Steve Harvey Show, Good Morning America, and and is 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: on the show today to discuss a book that I 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: read this weekend called Paper Guards by Goldie Taylor. Please 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: welcome to my show, Money Making Conversations, my guests Goldie Taylor, 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Gonna Mons McDonald. All, I am go. There have we 69 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: met before? No, I don't know that I have. I 70 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: know that we must be only one and we have 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: degree of who do you know? We both up? You know, 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: let's see Steve Harvey show that that go. Did she 73 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: come on the show? You know? I was sitting in 74 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the room just you know, sometimes sometimes there's something that 75 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: but queer having you on the show. And where are 76 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: you at? Where are you based at? Let's get that 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: started first. I'm right here in sunny down town North Bockhead. Good. Now, 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: this book we're going to talk about the book, but 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about and bring my fans up 80 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: to speed on basically your brain who you are and 81 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: what you represent, and you have an opinion, you have thoughts, 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: and you share those thoughts on the ongoing basis what 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: drives you, Goldie? You know, I think if there's anything 84 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: that you know, people have sort of a defining moments 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: in their life, are sitting a moment of things that 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: change the trajectory of all that they are and do, 87 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: and you know, and I think everybody sort of socialized 88 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: a certain way. I was raised in a place called 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: the St. Louis, just on the easterly branks of Date 90 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: with large and you know, this is a tough place, 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: you know then and it is today. And I just realized, 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, as Barack Obama was coming to grow Um 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: as Senate as as the nominally elect in two thousand 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: and seven headed towards the presidency, that as senator from Illinois, 95 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: he had never been to East St. Louis. So even 96 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: the U. S senator for a state hadn't been there. 97 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: And it sort of let me know right away that 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's not that he didn't care about it, 99 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: something more or people who lived that life. The decent 100 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: Louis itself did not have voice, that we did not 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: have a platform for the issues that were most important, 102 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: most salient to us in our lives. And I decided 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: one morning I woke up, I said I'm going to 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: be that voice. And everything or everything wrong in America, 105 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: I said, it is wrong in East St. Louis. You know, 106 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: everything from you know, infrastructure and social institution breakdown at 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: our family issues to taxation, everything wrong. And so I 108 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: just started to talk about those issues out loud and 109 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: right about them. And I happen to have a client 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: at the time. Uh NBC, what's the client? And we 111 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: were on the tail end of my Black is Beautiful 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: when I signed them on as a client, and I 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: wrote a column about Sale Talor and she had become, 114 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: you know, the selection for UM John McCain to beat 115 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: her vice presidential running being vice presidential run. I wrote 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: that column and it went viral. I wrote the column, 117 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: it was posted on ebony jet dot com, and I 118 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: started getting letters from as far away as Venezuela and Guatemala, 119 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: uh email from Singapore, and knew that now something had 120 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: been captured, and I just began to write and write 121 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: and write. And within weeks, you know, I was on 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: the Rachel Radof show, I was doing Lasso with Laurence O'Donnell, 123 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: I was doing within a six months, John Lemon every weekend. Um. 124 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Certainly as somebody just hired me. They just took me 125 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: up to the street. And so I went to work 126 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: for NBC News full time as a political ass and 127 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: that's really where the national platform began. But I had 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: been writing all of my life. I just decided one 129 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: morning I was going to put that passion to work 130 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: on behalf of people who Astra was did not have 131 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: the voice mescessary to have the issues. Yeah, that's why 132 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I created this show, to just let people hear these stories, 133 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: because they only hear the the the in effect, you know, 134 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: when you're there and and this is this is this 135 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: is a passion and you wrote on passion. And but 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I want to I want to go back to something 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: that I mentioned in your credits. Uh you know my 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Black is Beautiful, uh is, which is an amazing campaign. 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about, how do just give 140 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: me You know, you were at the forefront of being 141 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the voice of making that happen. Tell me a campaign 142 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: that that became that relevant in our society. How did 143 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: they come about? What was the what were the stages 144 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and making that because there was a lot of yes, 145 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot of nose, There was a lot 146 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: of and just you know decisions that had to be 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: made before I got launched. How does the campaign like 148 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: that get launched? Well, it was a tough launched. We 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: were at a small boutique agency in New York City 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: places called Lippi Taylor founded by a woman named Maureen Lippy, 151 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and we had a client proctat Gamble, which they had 152 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: a small piece of that business. One of their assistant 153 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: vice presidents name is Nigel Tito Read came into our 154 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: offices one afternoon with a product manager, King Eric Kings, 155 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: and again another young woman named Emo, three young black 156 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: executives from procting Gamble, and Nigel began to tell us 157 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: the story. You know, Nijo is a very dark complexioned 158 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: woman and been to tell her a story about when 159 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: she was a child, she her mother brought her her 160 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: first Bobbie dolls, took the dolls outside the play and 161 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: she lived in a predominantly white neighborhood and the little 162 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: white girls told her her dolls couldn't play with them, 163 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: that her dolls were ugly, that they could be the 164 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: maid if they were going to play, And so neither 165 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: went home crying, and she sent her mother. They told 166 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: him my dolls were They said, I couldn't play with them, 167 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: And she said, don't you know that black is beautiful? 168 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: The Nigel is, you know, at her middle forties today 169 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: and so we're talking about, you know, the mid seventies 170 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: when this all went down. Um that night, her mother 171 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: put her first coffee of Essence and Evony magazine on 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: her pulle before she went to there. And so Nigel said, 173 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: I just want everybody to know that black is a 174 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: beautiful and I think that there is a campaign in 175 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: that and I don't know what it is. Can we 176 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: talk about that? And so what was supposed to be 177 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: an hour meeting went on for a three or four 178 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: until it was time for him to hit the plane 179 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: to hit back to Cympinematic. And what I said to 180 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: her during the conversation was, you know, blackness is a 181 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: personal thing. That we begin to talk about her colorism 182 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: and what my perspective on blackness is and how I 183 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: come to it. It's a very personal thing. And so 184 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: if you qualify it with my and make it personal, 185 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: then you had something. And so we began to talk 186 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: about what that meant. You know, that's the white boy 187 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: drive races out all through home, all through home to Atlanta. 188 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: That night, it had stayed with me, what is my 189 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: what does my blackest muticle with me? And I turned 190 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: it over to a vice servant who was working for 191 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: me on my team at that time. I signed a 192 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: heat and she wrote a poem. No one wrote that 193 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: poem for about three days, just hung around in our 194 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: email box, and Nija and I happened to open it 195 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: on the same evening and we called it to the 196 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: stream and it was the original my blackest beautiful poem. 197 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: And from that poem, I said, this is a national 198 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: conversation on the phone. Is Goldie Taylor an incredible political 199 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: analysts Her new book Paper guards At novel of money, 200 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: race and politics. Uh, you can, it's in the stores 201 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: right now, correct, Cody, it is. Indeed, it is. One 202 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: of my friends called at each side of consto eating 203 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: there is everywhere. There's five books or slow from Barnes 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and Noble to Goads, go to wal martin Target and 205 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: get online the course of Amazon. Let me tell you 206 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: some this is uh. I I tell people because I'm 207 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: a right from the sitcom writer, no novelist, and it's 208 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: you know, I see this book as a movie. I 209 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: see this book as a series. I see this book 210 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: our television opportunities coming your way because of your writing. 211 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Because this book, if it got optioned out, I would 212 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: not be shocked. It was preemptive and so and that 213 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: means it was brought as options as a dramatic series 214 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: prior to its publication, and so, uh what we can't 215 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: say who did it? The pre emption happened in June. 216 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: The book came out in October, and now we're on 217 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: to write the sequel, and so we are for paper 218 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: Gods has had uh some immediate sus. I think based 219 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: on it's it's stronger, it's stronger storytelling, based on its characterization, 220 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that Atlanta, Hollywood is still enamored with us. Um, 221 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: they're not only none with our tax class for bringing film, 222 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: so they're none of how things worked out here. And 223 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: so we're looking to not just based production to the 224 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: septum here and that's a different thing. Um. And so 225 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot, a lot more of that. Donald 226 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: Glover's Atlanta as a prot so that it extordinar in 227 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: the world. But the people are frankly intrigued with us 228 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: as a city, and so paper guys went very quickly. Um, 229 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: and I'm working on a number of other original projects 230 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: today that are both colevism and film. But enjoying, enjoying 231 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: this brand new career for me. Well, congratulations, so that 232 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't shocked, you know, like I said, you right, 233 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it's it's it's almost like 234 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: I've been fortunate by life. Are born in the inner 235 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: City and I've went to all black high school with 236 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: the University of Houston, which is a dominant white institution, 237 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: And these lifestyles that we live, these stories that you 238 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: tell a layered in this book, where you see success, 239 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: and you see the street talk, you see the political talk, 240 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: you see the society talk, and you have to all 241 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: these layers. And I feel that the life that you 242 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: live allows you to will be able to communicate these 243 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: different stories. But it's just amazing. I feel fortunate to 244 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: be able to share your story and I want to 245 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: promote this, So please send me your any banners that 246 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: you have taken promoted on my social social media here, 247 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Miss Taylor. Sure, so we've got a number of them. Um. 248 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Publisher has done. St. Martin's Press has been very good 249 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: to me in terms of helping across promote this book 250 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: across social media within bookstores and so we've been I've 251 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: been busted, to say the least, with you know, this 252 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: being my third novel, I knowing what I'm wanted to do. 253 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm headed out to the Los Angeles Accessible Books in 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: April UM to speak on a panel about writing your 255 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: political thrillers than this trumpion era. So what that's like, um? 256 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: And how close to the bones can you really get 257 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: when you write thrillers such as these? Um, you know, 258 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: the complications have really come along with that. And so 259 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a good good time for 260 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: me writing wise, but to be able to do it 261 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: and live and live in love here in Atlanta's own 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: a new book, Paper Guards by Goldie Taylor's and the stores. Now, 263 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: I wanna thank you for coming on my show. An amazing, 264 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: amazing read, uh, A novel of money raising politics based 265 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. 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I 290 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: think I gotta have a food person or food related 291 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: because I've been like, I went to uh, one of 292 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: my coolest, one of my best pizza places this weekend 293 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: called Crushed, and I ordered me a half of Wiian 294 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: pizza and then a half meat lover Pizza has some 295 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: bell peppers and some banana peppers, and I had and 296 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: I had the red and the green bell peppers on 297 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: the meat lover side, and I had the banana peppers 298 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: with the pineapple and the Canadian bacon on the other half. 299 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: It was a medium and I said that bar and 300 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: the guy said, uh, you're eating this by yourself? Yes, sir, 301 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: yes sir, you can sit here and watch. Believe me, 302 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: I will be eating by myself because I enjoyed food. 303 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: My next guest, he is a James Beard nominated chef. 304 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: He's also chef on BuzzFeed. Everybody knows those tasty platforms. 305 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: So what you know the number one thing on Facebook's 306 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: food videos, the number one thing you get. You're getting 307 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that food right. People will watch food. He debated. He 308 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: has a new show that debated on the TV wants 309 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: a new network called the CLEO. It's just just eats 310 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: with Chef JJ. Please welcome the money making Conversation. Chef J. J. Johnson, Hello, Hey, 311 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: how are you? Oh right? This in talking? And then 312 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: he can't talk? Now I was I was so excited. 313 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: How you insured me that? I was so caught off guard. 314 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to say. Well, we look 315 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: at man, it's about food, brother, it's about that folk foul. 316 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: I got me so excited about myself. I was like, whoa, 317 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: well you should be because of the fact that what 318 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: you do in the life we live now, uh, cookie 319 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: and how you cook and the different ways you can 320 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: serve people. You know, they you know, they talk about 321 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: to do it yourself networks, but the food industry, the 322 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: cooking show industries his own version of do it yourself. Correct, 323 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: But they just don't say do it yourself right? Correct? 324 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: You're right? Uh, it is truly do it yourself that 325 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: they're not telling you that, they're giving you that support, 326 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: that backbone to make you feel like they're there and 327 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: then you are truly doing it yourself like we're doing 328 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: it on just so I know, because because I watched it. 329 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I watched a show, you know, I watched the show 330 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: and I go, okay, okay, let's see what they're doing. Okay, 331 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: and I get mad if they don't give me the recipe. 332 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: You know, That's that just drives me easy when I 333 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: see something good on TV and I want to make 334 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: it and I don't have the recipe. So tell us 335 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: about your little history of how you got how you 336 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: got started, because I want to talk about this, uh, 337 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: this restaurant that you have. Uh it was something on 338 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: the menu that that that really caught my attention. But 339 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: tell me how you got started this, yef, because you 340 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: know I'm I'm an award winning baker. I got started 341 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: baking like four years ago. That's how I got started. 342 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so I got started about fifteen years ago. 343 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: I was literally just what did lu Shan is just 344 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: hobby fying out here. You're just telling people I'm award 345 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: winning baker. This is what he do. Follow his instructions, 346 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, said I want one of those ties or 347 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: send it to me. Absolutely absolutely. Um So yeah, I 348 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: started the kitchen super young when my grandmother got me 349 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: starting to kitchen really young. Um, and she made it 350 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: really fun for me. UM. So I used to spend 351 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: time in the kitchen. I didn't really watched cartoons or anything. 352 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Cooking was my cartoon. UM. Kind of fast forward love cooking. 353 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: We try to do family birthday dinners and mess up 354 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: people's birthdays trying to cook something that my mom would 355 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: allow me to cook. Um. But they were really feeling 356 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: me or getting me prepared for what I'm doing now. 357 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: And then about the age of fourteen, I started working 358 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: as a dishwasher at a country clubs to ride my bike, 359 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: my bike back and forth. So I grew up in 360 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: the northeast Pennsylvania and the Poconos. Um. I wrote my 361 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: bike back and forth. I went to culinary school and 362 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: coloring stud of America and then wind up working in 363 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: New York City. While while I was working in New 364 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: York City, I lived with family in Harlem. Um, and 365 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I've been in Harlem ever since now for about fifteen years. Regulations, Now, 366 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: what are you And one of the restaurants that you 367 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: have was every at Life Hotel. Yes, okay cool, And 368 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: that's in the Nomad district. If anybody knows that's that's 369 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: kind of like it called North of Madison Square and uh, 370 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: it's a really I guess it's it's a whole neighborhood 371 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: like just transforming. Correct, Yeah, the neighborhood is really transforming. 372 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: It's a transforming neighborhood. We're on We're on a block 373 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: that's transforming. You would know it as back in the 374 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: day as like Midtown or little Little West Africa or 375 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Korea Town. So we're like one block away from Korea towns. 376 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: So were thirty first Street between fits and six Um 377 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Henry in the Life Hotel or Henry by j J. 378 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: And let me just the setting is in Manhattan. Manhattan 379 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and New York City is where we're talking about the 380 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: restaurant location. Now, there's a couple of you know, I'm 381 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: a foodie, so immediately when I when it was coming 382 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: to my show, I had to go to the menu. 383 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: I had to go to the menu. What called my 384 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: eye with the colleg green salad. Oh yeah, that's the 385 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: color green salad is an infamous see college greasy. Everybody 386 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: up on college green salad. So you know, so that 387 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: means that, Okay, it's the college greens are not cooked, 388 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: they're treated like lettish. Correct, colle greens are not cooked 389 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: at all. You know, Cale has been getting all this 390 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: credit in the last ten years. Right the greens I've worked, 391 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Collar greens have worked harder than kal. So I wanted 392 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: to give you know, I want to give Kyla Green 393 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: some type of a different breath or knowing that you 394 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: can eat coylar green draw and it's really good for 395 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: you to stem in everything. So it's a color green salad. 396 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: It feels like a chop salad. It comes to some 397 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: red beans, cucumbers, and like in a coconut dressing. Okay, 398 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: now now that's that's genius right there. Now you're in 399 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: the kitchen. Now you're the mad scientist, right So this 400 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: is a mad scientist salad. Okay, I'm just telling y'all. 401 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: I eat everywhere. I eat everywhere. I had the collar 402 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: green soup I was and I was in flying biscuit 403 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: yesterday I had this scrambled eggs and colar green with bacon. 404 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: So I've never had the college green salad. So this 405 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: is a mad scientist mix. So, so you you're telling 406 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: people you're you're thinking about this idea, Well, how did 407 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: you look at you did look at you, like, really 408 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: j J. Really you think. I mean, people look at 409 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: people look at me crazy all the time with the 410 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: colle green salad. I think I sold the cole greens 411 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: and salt water will make them tender. They think a 412 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: branch them in water. No, I just treat the colar green. Truly. 413 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: There's a collar green that we're buying the store. It's 414 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: not a baby colar green. It's not a super baby colargreen. 415 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: This is this is a colar green um. And it's 416 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: it's really nice. It's it's something that is familiar but 417 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: unfamiliar um. And it's something that you can truly do 418 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: at home. You can get these colar greens and you know, 419 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: you can put chicken on top of salmon or some 420 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: you some steak, you know. So so you know, I'm 421 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: just taking you along the journey of the African diaspora 422 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: and kind of paying homage and respect to the flavors 423 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: of who we are and kind of what we do. Okay, cool, 424 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Okay, So you got the beans 425 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: in there, you got the quem. I think they they're 426 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: assuming you a slice. Cucumbers are chopped cup cumbers that 427 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: you have in this house, thinly sliced cucumbers. You have 428 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: to sled cucumbers and cash you some candy, cash shoes 429 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: and red bean candy. Yeah, just mad scientist. I like it. 430 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: I like that you called me the mad scientists. Who 431 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: has ever had candy Cashi's I'm just sorry, that's candypycns. Okay, 432 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: yea all that? Okay, Now the coconut dressy, the coconut dressy, 433 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: tell me about that. So coconut dressing is uh, just 434 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: some coconut milk, a little bit of bird's eye chili, 435 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: cumin um, blended oil, some shallot. And the kid is 436 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: that the spice and the the spice and the coconut 437 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: dressing will cut through the bitterness of the color green. 438 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: So it gives it a really nice balance. So if 439 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: you don't have like bird's eye chili, you could use chipotle, 440 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: or you can use some other type of chili that 441 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you really love. So another thing he caught my eye 442 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and I really didn't understand. It was called it was 443 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: all a dream. That was all the dream we used 444 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to reword of magazines. Um, if you can get the 445 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: whole on you. So I saw you get one of everything. 446 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: I said that you should share with fortified people. So 447 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: it's a big celebration at the table. You're having this 448 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: ultimate dream meal. Um and uh, I just referenced after 449 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: the Biggie song. I'm telling you see, he knows I've 450 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: looked at his menus. You know. Do you get to 451 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: sweet potato pie too? That's your dessert? Did you get 452 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: that sleeperteato pie? You gotta get the legendary if we 453 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: do it with purple yam, you know, you have to 454 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: get coking on ice cream. You know, we're really we're 455 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: really taking it. Oh my goodness, so so so. The 456 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: thing about it, I really really when I talk about food, 457 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: I really like talking to people who enjoy food. You 458 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: enjoy food, You enjoy the kitchen experience. I'm assuming it 459 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: goes back to your childhood when he was in the 460 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: kitchen and and then being able to look at other people. 461 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: Are you washing dishes? Being able to see other people 462 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: do something that you want to do it it's a 463 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: passion for you, right j J. Yeah, it's a big 464 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: passion for me. You know. Um, the reason why I 465 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: love cooking food and really fortunate in having one restaurant 466 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: right now and the second one coming as I'm connecting 467 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: people every day. And the greatest connector's food. So if 468 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm able to do it with the food that I 469 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: truly love to cook and give you these amazing nostalgic 470 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: moment um, then I've done my job and to keep 471 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: me going to the next dayl I will be in 472 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: New York tomorrow, my friend. Okay, amazing, So so I 473 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: should see you tomorrow. You will see me tomorrow night. 474 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: I swear to you you will see me tomorrow night. Um, 475 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: I will definitely want to try this colleague green salad. 476 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling your front um, I haven't ready for you. 477 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: I will be and I just wanted to just don't 478 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: put no chicken one in another. I just want to 479 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: because that's that's that's just such a great level of 480 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: curiosity for me. I know it's gonna taste great. And 481 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: then so because the the restaurant opens at five thirty 482 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: and correct, yes, you know, I'll be on top of 483 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: your game, baby, over top of your guy. But my friend, 484 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: I had amazing time with this interview. Again, Uh, incredible chef. 485 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: He's a new TV show just debated on the TV 486 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: once new network called the Cleo Network. Coach just Eats 487 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: with chef JJ Chef, I will I'll be at your 488 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: place tomorrow. I promise you I will be there tomorrow. 489 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: Will be taking pictures, putting on my social media because man, 490 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: I got to get the college green salad. I can't 491 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: wait to see you. Thank you for having me on. 492 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: It's been a true pleasure. Matt Sidists, I'm coming, Matt Sideist, 493 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm coming. 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More importantly, 538 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: Rashane McDonald will use his business and celebrity relationships to 539 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: empower small businesses with information to succeed. My next guest 540 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: has experienced the highs and lows of professional football right now. 541 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: He's very high, but we just not saying loads because 542 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: he was undrafted and when you go on drafted, you 543 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: know you have to beat the odds. And he's been 544 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: on the active out of the National Football League for 545 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: years now. Football is not his future. I'll talk about 546 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: all athletes come on at there's a there's a there's 547 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: a window. When you're betting your game on your physicality, 548 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: you have to know that that is not your future. 549 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do? You shape that? 550 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: What do you do with that opportunity? Well, he's doing 551 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: a lot with that opportunity. He's on the show today 552 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: to talk about his football career and his digital show, 553 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: low Key let So YouTube. It's a traveling business review show. 554 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, Ryan Delaire. Yeah, are 555 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: you doing? Come on? Not Ryan, you can come to 556 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: your your TV host, man, come on your TV. Okay, 557 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: come on. I'm proud to be here on the Money 558 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: Making Conversations talking about getting the money and talking about 559 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: building business, talking about building business relationships. I'm proud of you. 560 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: You got a TV show that you're creating that you're 561 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: traveling around the country. Tell us how that concept started 562 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: and tell us um the first tell us how the 563 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: concept started. It's called low Key Lit. Yeah. So with 564 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: low Key Lit, I came up with the concept. I 565 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: basically was traveling, you know, from different places, you know, 566 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: from state to state. My um, I think second year 567 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: after the season with my agent, you know, I went 568 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: to the When did I go to I went to 569 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in Houston. I had a couple of 570 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: events had to do there with him, and then I 571 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: had I went to the All Star Game that year. 572 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: Then I traveled to Miami. Says I traveled to Miami. 573 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: So then, thinking back to when I was doing that, 574 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, if I'm traveling to all these 575 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: different places, I should try to monetize it or you know, 576 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: do something and create a following. Because I felt like 577 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: I was going to all these like you know, I 578 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: wanted to know what were the best places to eat 579 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: when I was in those locations. So I came up 580 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: with the concept of low Key Lit because I wanted 581 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: to be the guy that everybody can reach out to 582 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: if they wanted to know what place to eat in 583 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: a certain city. So I basically came up with the 584 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: show I wanted. It's called low key Lit because I 585 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: go to the places that are literally low key and 586 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: they're lit. Like places are like, you know, not many 587 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: people would know about. You know, they're like my pop shops, 588 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: but like you know, just like everyone else, you know, 589 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Mama pop shops have like some of the best flavors 590 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: you know I went to a place. Yeah, I went 591 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: to a place in Atlanta one time, and I had 592 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: to put them on my show called Mr. Everything. Um, 593 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: it's a really nice place to have like you know, 594 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: steam veggies. Everything was grilled over rice. You know, steam 595 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: veggies was like a certain meat, whether it's like salmon, um, chicken, 596 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: et cetera. And they would have like really great food. 597 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: So I had to put them on the show. That 598 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: was one of my first episodes when I was growing. 599 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I just love the fact that I 600 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: can go to these hidden gems and show my perspective 601 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: of it from my athletes perspective, and I would just 602 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: put a you know, plenty of my different teammates on 603 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: there as well. Now he's just there for the athletes perspective. See, 604 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm not an athlete. I was just a regular eater now, 605 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: you know. So with that being said, what what what 606 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: are the you said? The criteria basically is these hidden jams, 607 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, low profile, but you know everybody knows somebody 608 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: enough people don't don't know about them. So you go in, 609 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: you're dine and now I see a camera. Is a 610 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: camera crew follow you around us? The actual camera is 611 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: it a iPad? Is it a your iPhone? Well? How 612 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: are you? How is this show being shot? So it's 613 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: being shot with um a camera. We we shot with 614 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: a Sony camera. Then I shot with the cannon camera. 615 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't have like two cameraman with me, 616 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: And basically I would and I would basically go to 617 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: the restaurant, talk to him, discuss what I was doing. 618 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: And I don't have it everything within contract. I would 619 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: do a press release just a you know, just for 620 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: legal purposes. Um. Yeah, you don't want to go in 621 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: there with no kind of dination right there? You know 622 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: what I mean? Everything is, yeah, exactly. You know you 623 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: want to start tapping on the show. Excuse me, sir, sir, 624 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: sir sir with all these cameras, who let you all 625 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: in here my show? So you got no yeah, like 626 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: you definitely wanted to everything to be business business oriented. 627 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: So with that, I basically I have my two camera man, 628 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: I'll create a whole blueprint of how I want everything orchestrated, 629 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: and we just go in and we shoot. Here here's 630 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: my thoughts. Because I saw the I saw the cookie visit, 631 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: I saw the bowling Bolling alley, I saw the Crab 632 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: visit in Houston. I've seen you know if I like you, 633 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: You're you're chrismatic, you look good, you feel the camera, 634 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: I would do it more like, uh like an iPhone style, 635 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: so it feels like it feels like it feels like 636 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: it's it feels like it's a it's like, you know, 637 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: you just invite them into the world. I just just 638 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: just ra Sean mcdonal, Okay, I've been or television. Just 639 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: name three hit TV shows, blockbuster hits, R I think 640 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about a little bit. Just 641 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: but I love you and I want to give you 642 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: a little bit advice. You can take it or you can, 643 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: like uh later on let it marinate. But if you 644 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: would bring down the production level and make it more 645 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: like uh like like your your point of view shot man, 646 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: I dude, I would watch that. And I said I 647 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: won't watching now, but that's just a thought and I 648 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: wanted to hear. I want to just talk a little 649 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: production back and forth with you, because you're the executive 650 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: producer talking. I'm an executive producer talking, and then we 651 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: can let our listeners know how how to top producers 652 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: talk and developing the TV show what are your thoughts 653 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: when I say, hey, you know, let's let's let's bring 654 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: down the quality and make it more like a personal journey, 655 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: and you you just happen to be eating there and 656 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: it just popped off like that. Yeah. Yeah, I basically, 657 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: um I did. I did a point of view basically 658 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: like a blog. Setting did that, but I merely did 659 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: that for when I was traveling, So I yeah, I 660 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: did that. So I have like two different productions. I 661 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: have like the low key lit like when I actually 662 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: have a production like it's an episode, and I have 663 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: local lit vlogs. So when I did like the local 664 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: lit vlogs, I actually went to um Columbia like in 665 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: South America, and I had a vlog of just doing 666 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: different things while I was out there that people probably 667 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: never knew I was out there in Colombia. And I 668 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: did like Paraglider, I did a TV writing and I 669 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: just sold the whole Yeah, and then I did also 670 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: South Africa last year as well, and I just show 671 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: what it was like to be m hmm, yeah, that's 672 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: that's some fun stuff. And so but no, but no 673 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: camera crew was falling around. You just kind of like 674 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: doing it yourself yeah, I have my my camera had 675 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: a go pro and I had my phone. That's how 676 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: I just yeah, and I just wanted to show raw 677 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: footage of how everything is, how everything is you know, 678 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: over there. So that was really good. But like when 679 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: I usually do my traveling, I usually try to blog that. 680 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: But like for the production of the of the show, 681 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: when I'm you know, at the restaurant, I probably did 682 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: one episode and I was just blogging and I had 683 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: the camera to interview on me. But majority of the time, 684 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 1: I'm make it, you know, a quality. I'm making it 685 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: like a pretty good quality episode. Well, I'm not saying 686 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: it's not I'm just saying that what I'm asking you 687 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: to do is not a quality. It's just it's just 688 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: that when you with low key, low key lit, you 689 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: know that it's a it's really a cool concept and 690 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: it's from your point of view. And I'm not saying 691 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: the camera has to be on you. You know, you 692 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: can turn when you I'm just telling you, is that 693 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: advising you? Because like I said, I love your idea. 694 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be pitching your idea, wouldn't have you on 695 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: the show. I wanted to bring on the show just 696 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: to talk to you and let people know that if 697 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: you have a dream, you can do it yourself. And 698 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. You know, he's taking it upon himself. 699 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: He has a time, and he's doing it himself, and 700 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: he's putting it on YouTube. So where can people find 701 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: episodes of your show? So all you have to do 702 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: is to go to low Key lit. It's um. All 703 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: you have to do is type in low key let 704 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: and low key is one word, and let it is 705 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: a separate word, and type that into YouTube and then 706 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: you can see the episodes. I have about like probably 707 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 1: eight or ten episodes on there where you can see, 708 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: or you can just go to my Instagram and I 709 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: have to link in the bio and my Instagram is 710 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: you can just type in my name, Ryan Hilaire d 711 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: As and dog E l A I R E and 712 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: then you can just find the link in in the 713 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: bio and the link actually brings you to the episode 714 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: when I went to a coffee shop that had creeps, 715 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: they had ice cream, they had a lot of different 716 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: things there. So you know, if you had that link, 717 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: you'll see all my episodes absolutely so so far. What's 718 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: your favorite restaurant you've been talk been too so far 719 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: just in this country business. A restaurant that you that 720 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: you feature so far, not feature that just experienced they 721 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: want to go back. I mean I just moved to Houston. Okay, 722 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: now you know from Houston that Ryan alright, now you're 723 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 1: my counting now Okay, Yeah, I went to Houston and 724 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: like one of my favorite spats I was here was 725 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: called crab Kings. I know, Craft Kings, seventeen thousand views. 726 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 1: I saw that episode that you had on the seventeen 727 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: thousand views. Yeah, that that restaurant was at a high level. 728 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: The food, the quality, you know, the how they were 729 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: running their business, you know, running the run of the businesses. 730 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: It's just as important. That's how good the food is. 731 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: To some people forget that. But the way everything was 732 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: orchestrated over there was at a high level. So that 733 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite favorite restaurants. Well, let me 734 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: tell you something. My nephew he has a Big six Barbecue. 735 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: It's on Highway six. I kid you, not the best 736 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: barbecue in the country. You gotta go by called Big 737 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: six Barbecue or as a side trailer is on Highway six. 738 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: Even barbecue for the Texas football team during the summer. 739 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: But these are these hidden gyms that you're talking about. 740 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: But if you're in Houston, I want to talk to 741 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: you some more because of the fact that I like 742 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: your idea, I like your concept because I would tell 743 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: you this. I saw the that the Crab interview and 744 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: you have You're more hyper and you're more more are 745 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: animated in that video than you were in your other videos. 746 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: And that videos is is really I thought, captured more 747 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: of your personality and one of your one of your 748 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: biggest views view view videos on your site. So I 749 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on the show man 750 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: and and and also let you know that I'm a 751 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: fan of yours and please stay in touch with me 752 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: because I want to help you and I don't help 753 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: you build your brand, not only as a model but 754 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: the TV show. We'll be right back with more from 755 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: Marsan McDonald. The money making conversations don't touch that down. 756 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: How many of us have looked at our finances and scream, 757 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: how can we make this much and still have so 758 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 1: much debt? 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I just resht mcdonnd 777 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: heading into our last break, waiting on my next guest. 778 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: He's coming in through the door. A man. Uh, we'll 779 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: talk about success. Uh the show or money making conversation 780 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: that I put together with our producers. I don't do 781 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: this show by myself. I learned that the hardware that 782 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: to try to achieve a greame, a dream, or your 783 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: goals by yourself are impossible. Even an athlete, the athlete 784 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: has to have the support system. If your scholar, you 785 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: gotta have a group of people that you study with. 786 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: Always know that success achieved by yourself, well it's not 787 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: long term. You've gotta be able to integrate people into 788 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: your life to be able to support you doing those 789 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,959 Speaker 1: down moments, to be able to help you when you're 790 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: building a brand or building a lifestyle that will take 791 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: you to the next level. That's what I'm about. I'm about. 792 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm about understanding that the values that I have on 793 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: that I've achieved over the years. That's why I always 794 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: tell people if you want to be successful, if you're 795 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: trying to be successful, understand that what you learned your 796 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: twenties is what's gonna enable you to make money. Today. 797 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: My next guest has just arrived. He's as Natalie dressed 798 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: as I am. About to say something of him, boy 799 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 1: me and he got the same Taylor here, Tequillo Spikes 800 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: has made it up and come on down. He got 801 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: his hair combed and everything. Man making money. But let 802 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,399 Speaker 1: me introduce you before you just started talking up in here. 803 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: I like that too, because that's my color right there. Yeah, 804 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: that's right. Now we're gonna we're gonna talk for you color. 805 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk up. My next guest was drafted in 806 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: the first round. Taste. I'm big fan, um so I 807 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: just man crush a lot of people on the football field. 808 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: Uh at this point, a lot of people, don't they 809 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: about to make first down? He stopped him thirty thirty 810 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: pick overall pick by the assist in their bankers and 811 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: their teen they need. He was a two time All 812 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: Pro or two time Pro Bowls selection. Is one of 813 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: only seven linebackers in league history with more than two 814 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: hundred starts. While playing with the Bengals, Buffalo Bills, Philadephe 815 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: Eagles everces for Far the Out and San Diego Charges, 816 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: he was native captain. I love this about leadership of 817 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: the fifteen seasons. He was captain thirteen times. That says 818 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: a lot. That's why I wanted you to bring it 819 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: on the show. A true testament about your leadership and 820 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: the qualities you have. And also I wanted to mention 821 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: this he Uh. Post retirement, he's putting a emphasis on education, 822 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: finishing his bachelor's degree in Liberal arts at Auburn and 823 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: the December sixteen earned his NBA from the university. I 824 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: am Miami. Please welcome to money making conversations to kill spikes, 825 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: my man or that voice, that voice, making money with 826 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: that voice, making money with it, the presidents, everything everything 827 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: that comes with it. Well, let me talk about it. 828 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: I got your book here. It's uh, it's called the Mask. 829 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: Now behind the Mask. First of all, you are helm 830 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: with all your life. Now you say the mask, is 831 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: there any reference there are helmet mask or you just 832 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: mask me something else? Yeah, it was I came up 833 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: with the title just thinking about every day people. We 834 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: used to say, you know what, um, I know what 835 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: you look like. But when we look at the rest 836 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: of the guys, when we try to relate to a 837 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: lot of the guys who were playing the game, we 838 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: can't see you because of the mask. And so for me, 839 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: that kind of triggered something in my mind to say, 840 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: you know what, I want to go behind the mask. 841 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: That's the reason why I titled my book behind the Mask. 842 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: Because everybody has a story to be told, and regardless 843 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: of whatever chosen field endeavor that you're chasing, you have 844 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: a mask. And so that's why My book is titled 845 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: Behind the Mask because I wanted to go behind the 846 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: mask to figure out what makes you tick, what makes 847 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: you so different. So let's talk about this book, Man 848 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: the Mask. Uh. First of all, I'm a football nut, 849 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, and in high school, junior high, they's called 850 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: me black high sale. And so when I see you 851 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: see Chuck ben Derrick, that's see to have that name 852 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: right there, and Dick La Bolt name in here right there. 853 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: That's that's some deep that's some legendary names right there. 854 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: And then you got Bobby Belle, Kansas City chief who 855 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: him and Willing and there said both of them boys, 856 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: simple tell you something important. This book is from an 857 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: African Americans perspective because she back in the day, you 858 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: knew that white players were only reserved for certain positions. 859 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: You know, middle linebacker you had to be white, center 860 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: you had to be white, and quarterback he had to 861 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: be quiet. So Willing there was my first, I'm gonna 862 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: tell you my first hero because he played that position. 863 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So, no, the importance of 864 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: this book when you start, when you start lining up everybody, 865 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: when you start doing what you've done, you know, and 866 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 1: then you go Caneli has been at the Alabama Boy. 867 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: I forgive him. Books for State, Harry Carson, New York Giants, 868 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: Come On, London, Fletcher Washington, Reds Kids, Kevin Green, Carolina Path, 869 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: Ted the Stark, Rickey Jackson, New Orleans, the Mike Secretary, 870 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: The Eyes saw him yesterday. The eyes, though, brother, be 871 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: the eyes. And then you, why did you do this 872 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: book and why did you focus on linebackers? I focused 873 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: on linebackers because my concept of behind the Mask it 874 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: had no intentions of having these other cast members on, 875 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: these other great men, great leaders. But the more I 876 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: thought about it, and the more I saw a gap. 877 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: I think in anything that you do, money making conversations, 878 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: whenever you want to meet somebody, everybody has a need 879 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: and you have to find that need. And so the 880 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: need that I saw was when I was hearing their 881 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: stories told, and some of their stories being told, it 882 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 1: was either either diluted or it was not told to 883 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: the extent with the passion that it deserved. And so 884 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: for me, I was like, you know what this is 885 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: Not only will I share my story, I'm gonna go 886 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: around an interview every guy, and every linebacker comes from 887 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: a different decade, you talked about Willie Lanier knowing the 888 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: history of the game. This is not just a football book. 889 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: It's a book about leadership. It's a book about perseverance, 890 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: it's a book about discipline. And I picked a guy 891 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: out of very decade to share their story of how 892 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: did they become great? What made you an outlie? What 893 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: was that defining moment when you were a kid and 894 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: you said, you know what, I am going to sacrifice 895 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: everything for an idea or a dream that I have. 896 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: And I went, I visited every guy for a two 897 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 1: year time period, spent the day with them, and I 898 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: got their story of their defining moment. And so when 899 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 1: you look through the book and you read the stories, 900 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: the stories drives the images, and the images drives the story. 901 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: So I I just thought it was a great for 902 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: me to be able to not only share their story, 903 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: but allow them to be the author of their own autobiography. Well, 904 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important that the story is important. Like 905 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: I was telling you, how each one of these stories 906 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 1: affected me or still affect me because of the fact 907 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: that you know, when you when you're going through life 908 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 1: man and you and it's different now, you know, because 909 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: they they can see social media. They see kids are 910 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: seeing people and they think that athletes had this or 911 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: this writer of passage all their lives, you know. And 912 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: sometimes and then there's certain things that happened. They check it. 913 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 1: You know, you're still the athlete, okay. And and when 914 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're doing with this book, 915 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: like you said, as different errors, when I when I 916 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: see they're Brooks, such a humble, humble person, you know 917 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and the and the great Harry 918 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: Carston played with LT and the Giants, with those those 919 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: great giant teams and fletchers small compact or fearsome force. 920 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 1: When you look at all these linebackers, these great linebackers, 921 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: what do you fall athletically like I took a little 922 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: bit of this. I I symbolize this type of poissana 923 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: or this type of physicality when you start line up 924 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: these linebackers. When I look at every guy to me, 925 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: I split it down the middle one side, It's like 926 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,440 Speaker 1: what traits do I see what they have? And how 927 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: can I incorporate that until my game? And you know, 928 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,959 Speaker 1: I look at Chuck bay Nary. He was the last 929 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 1: of the sixty minute men, meaning he played both ways, 930 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: offense and the defensive side. Concrete Charlie was his nickname. 931 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: So for me, I wanted to be hard like Concrete Charlie. 932 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: You know, when I think about Mike Singletary, nobody ever 933 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: can recreate or try to. You know, well, they say, 934 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: uh impersonation is the best form of flattery, But Mike 935 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: sing for me, it took me to get like fierce 936 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: mad to even come close to his eyes. And I 937 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: still didn't accomplish that. But the intimidation factor of Mike 938 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: Singletary is what I really appreciated. Um I look at 939 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: Derrick Brooks. You know, a lot of people don't know, 940 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: but Derrick Brooks, how you say humble, reserve guy, but 941 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,479 Speaker 1: his faith jumps out more than anything. And he didn't 942 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: care about necessarily football sports itself, but his family. His 943 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: faith was so strong that it led him to the 944 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: game of football, and that would really propel him to 945 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: be the Hall of Fame of that he is today. 946 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: So from all of those attributes that these guys had, 947 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: I kind of picked a little bit from everybody, and 948 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, and and and it was very fun to 949 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: hear this story. I agree because I I the humbleness 950 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: that tone, Derrick Brookish. You know what I'm saying. I've 951 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 1: watched you play the physicality, that the sense of a center, 952 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: uh secretary all the way. But like I said, those 953 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 1: those magical eyes he had, you can't that was that 954 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: was God. Their lives with God given. You can't replace 955 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: those eyes. So I know we had a few minutes left. 956 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this next book. You're gonna 957 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: write about these running backs right now. We're talking about 958 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: the Mass behind the Mask and the Linebacker edition. Now 959 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a running back edition coming out. Running 960 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: Back Edition right now, here's my here's my all time 961 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: m Smith ad in it now. Eric Dickinson ain't in it. Man, 962 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm messing up. I'm just thought thought kicking people to 963 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: the curve. You know. You know he's gotta start with 964 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: Jim Brown. They played listen, totally agreed. Twelve games. They're 965 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: they're doing twelve games back, then all of yours. He 966 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: ran up from just twelve games health games. Then I 967 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 1: gotta go to Barry Sanders. M hm m hmm. I'm 968 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: in the same kitchen with you, coach self from in 969 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: the same thing, and I know you can cook too. 970 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm in the same kitching with you. Then I gotta 971 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 1: finish up with who I thought was the greatest physical 972 00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: running back that matched speed simultaneously, the Tyler Roves. Earl Campbell. 973 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: Listen love Earl Campbell one of the first players I 974 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: saw as a little bit as a youngster. I thought 975 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: he played lineback. That's how hard he played the game, 976 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: alongside Walter Payton. Come weakness, I know, I know, I 977 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: know it's with that, but I was I was just 978 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: talking about these are three different players. What I'm saying, 979 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: and Walter Payton, Walter Payton, i'ma tell you some Walter Payton, 980 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: uh gifted. But I wasn't never afraid of Walter Payton. 981 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you the truth. I was never afraid 982 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: of him. Earl Campbell, come on now, Errol Campbell was 983 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 1: was was a beast. Earl Campbell was one eight hundred. 984 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: Look you up, sir, and he will step through your chest. 985 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 1: Embarrys Sanders, Hello, goodbye. I got a great story about 986 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. When we come back. Oh man, we were 987 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,360 Speaker 1: We're done. Yeah, man, we gotta wrap up here, we 988 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: gotta wrap up. Yeah. I gotta bring you back. I 989 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: gotta bring you back. Yeah, you gotta here's deal. Here's deal, 990 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: here's there. This is our first time. Can you come 991 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: back next month? Absolutely okay, because see now we've got 992 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: a relationship here. If you don't have time I do, 993 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: we just do it on the phone because I want 994 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: to bring you back because you're you're I'm just telling 995 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: you your talents are so unique that I want to 996 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: be a part of your club. I appreciate that I 997 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: wanna be because I got some things that I'm doing 998 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: in the sports world that I want to sit down 999 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 1: and talk to you about. And we're gonna win. But 1000 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: right now, you've got this great book called Behind the Mask, 1001 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: and you got the Running Back. 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