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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where yes, Ellie

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you respecting our privacy during this meaningful and

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Speaker 1: special early chapter of our lives together. It's Monday, July

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh, and I just want to announce that I

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Speaker 1: think loud music at parties should be banned, maybe music

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Speaker 2: But I'm going to say worth it.

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Speaker 1: Because it was a hell of a weekend celebrating WNBA

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Speaker 1: All Star in my city. But between all the panels

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Speaker 1: today's show, you'll hear my conversation with longtime Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: Women's Soups coach Muffett McGraw, who joined our live show

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Speaker 1: at Level Sporting Club during All Star weekend. We talk

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Speaker 1: where she sees the WNBA in five years, and what

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Speaker 1: it was like to coach now WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert

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Speaker 1: in college. Muffett dropped some truly epic lore regarding Kathy's

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Speaker 1: first day of tryouts. Then you'll get to know Big

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Speaker 1: Citrus with a little first, best, and next, Plus the

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Speaker 1: district gets it done, a crown fit for a princess,

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Speaker 2: It's all coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Slices producers Alex and Bianca are on their

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Speaker 1: way back home from Chicago, so you'll have to tune

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Speaker 1: in tomorrow for our big All Star weekend recap of events, parties,

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Speaker 1: and takeaways, plus a full need to know of all

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Speaker 1: the weekend's scores and news.

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Speaker 2: But for now, here are the most.

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Speaker 1: Important things you need to know from Friday and Saturday's

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Speaker 1: All Star competitions.

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Speaker 2: The All Star events, parties.

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Speaker 1: And general pandemonium got going on Wednesday night, but the

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Speaker 1: actual basketball tipped off on Friday with the inaugural Shooting

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Speaker 1: Stars event, where one former w player, one current w player,

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Speaker 1: Basketball League teamed up to see who could rack up

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Speaker 1: the most points from different spots on the court. Team

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Speaker 1: Washington took home the trophy thanks to WNBA legend Elena

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Speaker 1: to Giselle gig Banks, who was indisputably the star of

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Speaker 1: Friday's Shooting Stars event. Banks, who drained at least four

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Speaker 1: to the same high school as Deladan. Next up on

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Speaker 1: Friday Night was the three Point Contest, where the People's

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Speaker 1: Princess Azy Fudd beat Portland Fire forward Bridget Carlton in

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Speaker 1: time in league history that a rookie has won the

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Speaker 1: three Point Contest. Now, not only did the Dallas Wings

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Speaker 1: rostch with Golden State Warriors guard Steph Curry, who beat

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Speaker 3: If you're listening, I've been asking for a rematch since

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Speaker 1: After seeing her shoot on Friday, methinks the outcome could

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Speaker 1: be different this time around. On to Saturday and the

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Speaker 1: main event, the All Star Game, a WNBA All Star

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Speaker 1: Game record crowd of nineteen thouy, seven hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: Pagebecker's and former Chicago Sky Star Angel Reese earning the

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Speaker 1: second quarter when Reese set up Dominique Malonga sprinting down

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Speaker 1: as the crowd went wild. Malonga's play marked the fifth

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Speaker 1: And it turns out there was a little extra fire

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Speaker 1: in this game, Neko Okumakay scored eleven points for Team Spoon,

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Speaker 1: My conversation from our live event with Muffett McGraw plus

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Speaker 1: you get to know Big Citrus a little better. We

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Speaker 2: Anyone good? Okay, you can also boo it if you

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Speaker 1: Okay, we get all types here in Chicago, every single

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Speaker 1: Midwest school. She was the coach there from eighty seven

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Speaker 1: She led her team to nine Final four, sevenampionship game appearances,

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Speaker 1: two national championship wins. She was a college and pro

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Speaker 2: At Lee High. Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: She's a member of the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: You can see her on ESPN talking hoops and yes

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Speaker 2: It's Muffet McGrath. So happy to have you here. Hello.

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Speaker 1: I saw some very excited faces that didn't know you

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Speaker 3: Week applause for Notre Dame though when I was coming up.

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Speaker 4: Following the Yukon story.

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Speaker 2: I know what about Yukon. See, that's the problem, and

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Speaker 1: We didn't fill the audience with the right people exactly.

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Speaker 1: I needed to put in a call to the Irish.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here, Thanks for sitting down with me.

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Speaker 1: What are you up to this weekend?

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Speaker 4: A lot of fun this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'm just so excited for all my girls that are

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Speaker 3: morning going to the Obama Center and President Obama just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't there. Muffat's pretty.

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Speaker 1: I've been there three times and not today, And yesterday

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Speaker 2: No, but and then today he showed up without me.

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Speaker 4: He didn't know, he didn't know, he didn't know.

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Speaker 2: He thought I was gonna be there. That's the narrative

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Speaker 1: I mentioned more Notre Dame players in this game than

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Speaker 2: What does that say about.

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Speaker 1: Your thirty three year tenure there and what's happened since

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Speaker 3: You know, we've had so many great players come through

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Speaker 3: just wonderful representatives of our university. They're having a great career,

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Speaker 1: because there's a very delicate balance between I was here

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Speaker 1: Scoop Jackson's here wearing a shirt that has Hannah and

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Speaker 3: She has the most incredible vision. I don't think I've

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Speaker 3: She wasn't a great three point shooter coming in, but

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you can tell the vision

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Speaker 1: Her first All Star as a rookie, and she's even

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Marina Maybury because you did get to

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Speaker 4: Well, best trash talker on the team by far.

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Speaker 3: She is so competitive and I love that. I love

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it started in Connecticut. I think she

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Speaker 3: she's worked really hard on controlling her attitude. I mean

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Speaker 4: We always had good conversations.

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Speaker 3: But I think it started there, and now with a

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Speaker 1: That's a tough coaching job, because what you said about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really tough decision, and I think we've

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Speaker 4: Let's move on.

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Speaker 1: I just I want to see Caitlin be happy on

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Speaker 4: What is it about it? And then find your joy.

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Speaker 1: I look at Olivia Miles the other day, she got blocked,

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Speaker 3: you have to be an offensive coordinat or you have

443
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 3: to do this. You don't not have to be in

444
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 3: the NBA to be a good coach. In the WNBA,

445
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,199
Speaker 3: we're seeing more coaches come over from college. I think

446
00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 3: that trend is going to continue with the NIL and

447
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,479
Speaker 3: the transfer portal and all the horrors that the coaches

448
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 3: have to go through, and I think we're we're seeing

449
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,719
Speaker 3: some good things there. But I mean, I'm in favor

450
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Speaker 3: of all women coaching. And the thing that bothers me

451
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,640
Speaker 3: the most is when men then hire a male assistance,

452
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Speaker 3: Like you're coaching women.

453
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Speaker 4: Women need to be able to talk to somebody on.

454
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Speaker 3: The bench and you've got a bench full of guys.

455
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 3: So I think it's so important at every level. You know,

456
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 3: there's a big AAU tournament going on right now McCormick Place.

457
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,680
Speaker 3: I bet ninety eight percent of the coaches are men.

458
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Speaker 3: I mean, we just we have to do a better

459
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 3: job grassroots all the way up and women are you know,

460
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 3: we're treated differently, We're looked at differently. I think a

461
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 3: lot of ads are like, I hired a woman, it

462
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 3: didn't work, Let me hire a man. Like we're representing

463
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,239
Speaker 3: our entire gender, where most coaches men coaches. They just well,

464
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 3: he wasn't good, Let me hire another guy. So we

465
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 3: were always behind.

466
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Speaker 1: I only had one female coach in all three sports

467
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Speaker 1: in high school, and in college only one female head coach. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you gave a lengthy I'm not

469
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Speaker 1: gonna say rant, because rant sounds you were pretty angry.

470
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Speaker 2: I'll say rant.

471
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Speaker 1: You gave a lengthy rant about that topic years ago

472
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: that went viral and got a ton of support and

473
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Speaker 1: also criticism from people alleging reverse sexism. Or you know,

474
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Speaker 1: if Muffett says you should only hire women, that's unfair

475
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Speaker 1: to qualified men.

476
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Speaker 2: Shouldn't you hire whoever's best?

477
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Speaker 1: And we can't operate in the idea of something, we

478
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: have to operate in the reality of it.

479
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 2: And the reality is.

480
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Speaker 1: That too often, with the way things are, you say

481
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Speaker 1: you're hiring the best, and that ends up always being

482
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Speaker 1: a man, even when he's not the best, because of

483
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: the systems in place, because of the pipeline, because people

484
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 1: like to hire people that they think that they could

485
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 1: go golfing with instead of someone that might teach them

486
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Speaker 1: something different that they don't already know. And did you

487
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: imagine when you went on that rant that we'd be

488
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Speaker 1: here doing this again and we'd be back to declining numbers.

489
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Speaker 3: No, I really thought we were going to start making

490
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: some moves in the right direction. But I mean, for me,

491
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Speaker 3: I did hire the best person, and it was always

492
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Speaker 3: a woman, and I think that people.

493
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Speaker 4: Don't always get that. And I loved when I think

494
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Speaker 4: it was.

495
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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurt a couple of years ago announced like his

496
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Speaker 3: financial team was all women, and they said, well, why

497
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Speaker 3: did you do that?

498
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Speaker 4: He was, well, I wanted the best.

499
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Speaker 1: So his whole everything team, agent, manager, finance, everything, Jalen

500
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Speaker 1: Hurts as all women and he's killing it.

501
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, And I think, like, here's where

502
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: we are right now. Did anybody hear about somebody was

503
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 3: taking flying lessons and the pilot jumped out of the

504
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: plane and like, yeah, okay, so you didn't know who

505
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 3: the who the person that landed the plane was And

506
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: then it comes out that it's a woman. So they

507
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: put a picture of the guy that jumped out of

508
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Speaker 3: the plane and the airplane. The woman who landed the

509
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: plane gets no credit at all. Right, they all only

510
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: want to talk about this, and that's just typical of

511
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: where we are.

512
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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of people kind of laugh those

513
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: things off. But those little microaggressions when it comes to gender, sexuality, everything,

514
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: they add up to people's perception and it ultimately influences

515
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: major decisions that they make, even subconsciously. So checking those

516
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: over and over again just changes the landscape in which everyone.

517
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 2: Is moving and making their decisions.

518
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the media side, because you talk about

519
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: the w on ESPN and college hoops and you're in

520
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: the space being this wise tenured oh coach, I won't

521
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: say the word, How do we get back to the

522
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: media talking about the basketball. I understand there's so much

523
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: in the three sixty of women's sports that's interesting, but

524
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: so much of what breaks through is just the negative,

525
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: and it really takes people away from talking about the

526
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: ball and who's doing it.

527
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that's true and everything though.

528
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: I think anytime you pick up the anything online, it's

529
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: about something negative that happens somewhere. You don't hear about

530
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: the good stuff. And there's so many good things going

531
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Speaker 3: on with so many great players and great teams, and

532
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: especially this year in the w with all the parody

533
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: that we have, you know, they managed to find the

534
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: things that they can really harp on. So I think

535
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 3: I think it's really up to us to be a

536
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: little more positive, a little more proactive when we're talking

537
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: about it. It's hard for me as a coach on

538
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: the media side because I only see what's wrong, Like

539
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: that was my job for forty years to see what

540
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: we're doing wrong and then to fix it. So I

541
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 3: have a tendency to come at it from that way too,

542
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 3: So I actually one of those people needs to be

543
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: more positive.

544
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Speaker 5: Okay, working on it.

545
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: I'll coach all mold. I'm still working on I'll coach

546
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: you up.

547
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: Coach on being positive, you coach the commissioner Kathy Engelbert

548
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: at Lehigh? Did she have a air about her at

549
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: the time of like she's going to go on to

550
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: be in leadership or many years at Deloitte?

551
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: Like what kind of vibe?

552
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture Kathy as like a spindleau because

553
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: she's lean spind little college student trying to figure out

554
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: what who she is.

555
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: She came to tryouts her freshman year because we came

556
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: in together. I didn't recruit her. We came in together.

557
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: And remember when there was those tennis socks that had

558
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: that little ball on the backs that hung out of

559
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: your shoe. She wore those to practice.

560
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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, pause for a moment. This is the

561
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Speaker 2: lore we need, Muffett.

562
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: I need someone to immediately photoshop Kathy Engelbert with little

563
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: ball tennis socks and her hoop shoes.

564
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: That's incredible, Okay, carry.

565
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: On, well, I said to my assistant, let's just cut

566
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 3: her right now, because who comes to basketball practice with

567
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 3: little balls on the back of her socks. But as

568
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: it turned out, she was pretty good. She also played

569
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 3: lacrosse and was very good at that too. But she

570
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: I could tell she was a leader because we would

571
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: have conversations. She'd come in the office. Most players are,

572
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, they don't really know how to talk to

573
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: the coach about more playing time. And she came in

574
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Speaker 3: one time and was like, I just if you just

575
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Speaker 3: give me a couple more minutes, just like two more minutes,

576
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: you know, I think it would be better. I could

577
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: relax a little bit, lady do Anyway, it worked out great.

578
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: She was a four year starter.

579
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 3: Captain went on to do great things that Deloitte as

580
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 3: the first female CEO, and I'm sure faced a lot

581
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 3: of the same things that she's facing now, but well

582
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: prepared for the role season.

583
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: Now, what do you make of the role of the

584
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: commissioner in the W.

585
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: It's very different than a lot of other spaces, in

586
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: part because she answers to the owners, as most commissioners do,

587
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: but she also seems to answer to the MNBA and

588
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: Adam Silver, and not always in ways that are transparent

589
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: to us. They've intentionally, I think, kind of obfuscated exactly

590
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: where things sit there, and I don't think it serves

591
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: very many people.

592
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: I think it serves the MNBA and Adam.

593
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: Silver, and it makes it difficult for W players to

594
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: know exactly who's making decisions and even for the public.

595
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: I think there was the report that came out of

596
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: SBJ that Adam Silver was the one who went over

597
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: Kathy's had and decided that Alyssa Thomas should be suspended.

598
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: Kathy took the heat for that.

599
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: How do you think you can hold the business side

600
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: of what she's done and maybe the communication issues that

601
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: people talk about with the fact that she also.

602
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: Is not really at the top, even though she seems

603
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: like she is.

604
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: She has done a great job on the business side.

605
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: I mean, the franchises are worth so much money now.

606
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: She's done a terrific job raising money, doing what she can.

607
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: I would actually like to see what her job description

608
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: is because I get frustrated when I read somebody tweeted

609
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: like I sprained my ankle and Kathy didn't send me

610
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: a note, and I thought, is that her job too?

611
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I would love to know really what her

612
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: job is. You know, they're not marketing Caitlin Clark.

613
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: Is that her job?

614
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: I don't know.

615
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of things that happen in

616
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: the teams, you know, the teams aren't doing what they

617
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: need to do, and I would be interested to see

618
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: that because a lot of the communication could be better.

619
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, communication definitely could be better.

620
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think they are extreme cases where

621
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: I understand why the players say that they feel like

622
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: they should be called. Elena dellad On said, you know,

623
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: I retired, I'm a Hall of Famer. Didn't hear from her.

624
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: That's an interesting thing. Not to step in and say

625
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: congrats or thanks for what you've done. I think Alyssa

626
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: Thomas and to a Bonner specifically talking about the vitriol

627
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: and the death threats, that's a time when a commissioner

628
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: can say, I've got your back, We're going to figure

629
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: out how we're going to get through this together. And

630
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: then there's other times where I do think we've handed

631
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: every job to her, and again we don't know what

632
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: her roles are because they aren't transparent, and I think

633
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: that makes it very difficult. I'm all for Swin Cash

634
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: as deputy commissioner. I feel like we don't demand in

635
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: professional men's sports that the commissioner have a soft touch,

636
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: but in the W I do think that it's a

637
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: different role, and particularly someone who understands the experience of

638
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: the players predominantly Black league and very queer league, and

639
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: someone who just is intersectional in that way as opposed

640
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: to just a business leader.

641
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: I think it's required in a different space.

642
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: Like the W.

643
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she'd be a great hire, And I

644
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: think you're right, And I think you always surround yourself

645
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: with people that are different than you. You know, I

646
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: was never the you know, if you needed a hug,

647
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: you were going to pass my office and go down

648
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: the hall and go see me.

649
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: My friends are all laughing because they always try to

650
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: like hold it long to teach me, and I'm like, oh,

651
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: that's good.

652
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 3: But there are a lot of some women sometimes need

653
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: a little more than I was willing to give them.

654
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, so good to have other people around. Should

655
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: I hire someone to hug my friends? Where would you

656
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: like to see the w in five years? What looks different?

657
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: You know?

658
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 3: I think things are going great right now. I love

659
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: the attendance. You know, it's on a lot of different stations,

660
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: which sometimes it's a little harder to find, but I

661
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: you know, I love that through this desicated nights for

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Speaker 3: certain places to watch the games so we can see

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Speaker 3: them all. I think we're heading in a great direction.

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Speaker 3: I mean really everywhere we are right now, it's it's

665
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Speaker 3: just to me, it's it's the outside, the social media,

666
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Speaker 3: the trolling, like those things. But you know, you know

667
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Speaker 3: when you when you get more and you have more,

668
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Speaker 3: you're going to have the negative side of things too.

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Speaker 3: But if we could get a handle on how to

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Speaker 3: fix that sort of thing, I think that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Really that was positive, coach, Look at you. My impact

672
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Speaker 2: already showing up, but thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to check out all the Notre Dame

674
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Speaker 1: players that you had a hand in making great in

675
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Speaker 1: this game this weekend, and we really appreciate you coming out.

676
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Speaker 4: Thanks, thanks here, movin mcgram.

677
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much. Coach. Let's bring back up

678
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Speaker 2: my girls Alex and Bianca. Thank you much. All right,

679
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little Big Citrus. Raise your hand

680
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: if you know what big Citrus is. All right, good,

681
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: that's good. That's good, good, good.

682
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Speaker 1: So Big Citrus is what we call the three of us,

683
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: and when we have shows that we don't have a guest,

684
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Speaker 1: we have the three of us chopping it up talking

685
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: about things in sports.

686
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: It's a big Citrus episode.

687
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: And we came to that name while trying to figure

688
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Speaker 1: out what we name ourselves. We knew a name for

689
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Speaker 1: y'all listeners, which is that's right, y'all are the slices?

690
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: And so we were like, are we the grow full

691
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: of oranges? Are we the squeeze?

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Speaker 6: Like?

693
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: What are we? And kleeen Konnichan, who always listens to

694
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: the show, kind of heard us stumble over and joke

695
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: about being big citrus, like big pharma, big whatever, Like

696
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: we need to be the good side of oranges. And

697
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Speaker 1: she was like you already found it, Like you're clearly

698
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Speaker 1: big citrus. So we're big citrus producers, Alex and Bianca

699
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Speaker 1: and myself, And so we're gonna let you get to

700
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Speaker 1: know them a little bit.

701
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Speaker 2: You know them if you listen.

702
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Speaker 1: But just in case you need a refresher, we're gonna

703
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Speaker 1: do a speed round to start based on some of

704
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Speaker 1: your backgrounds.

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Speaker 2: So, Alex, what was the first sport you ever covered?

706
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Who?

707
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 7: So summer of twenty fifteen, and at first I got

708
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Speaker 7: sent to the Pan American Games, which is basically all

709
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 7: of the Olympic sports plus some more, and it was

710
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Speaker 7: a lot.

711
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Speaker 5: And then two weeks after that I went to the World.

712
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Speaker 7: Canoeing Championships and I learned that people dope in canoeing.

713
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 7: They also like dope their boats by putting weights in it.

714
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 7: So it's a fascinating world.

715
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: Fadi, what do you need drugs for?

716
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: Is it the arm?

717
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: Is it the arms?

718
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: My god? Talk about skipping leg day like that? Is

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Speaker 5: canoe s okay?

721
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Speaker 1: Sorry to any canoeists sorry, yeah, bianc canoeers, canoe s canoeists.

722
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Speaker 2: So with Alex knows it, Uh, what's the first sport

723
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: you covered professionally? The Olympics. But I'm gonna take it

724
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: back even further.

725
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: I was the color commentator for my high school softball team,

726
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 6: and I wanted to inject so much energy into it.

727
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: I'd be like welcome and everybody, like the twelve parents

728
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: in the crowd were like, it's three forty five.

729
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: Did these kates exist somewhere?

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Speaker 1: No?

731
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, I questioned, Alex, start digging.

732
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Speaker 2: I want to find those I think.

733
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Speaker 1: The first thing I covered was Cornell soccer for the

734
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: Cornell Daily Sun men's soccer and then my first.

735
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Speaker 2: Big, big one was Chicago Blackhawks.

736
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Speaker 1: And I just got thrust into the locker room with

737
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: literally zero journalism degree, zero experience in a locker room,

738
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Speaker 1: and I just walked in and the very first day

739
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Speaker 1: all the guys saw me. There was only one other

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Speaker 1: woman in the locker room, and she was in her

741
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Speaker 1: fifties I think, and had been there for a long time.

742
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Speaker 1: And I do not even know who this was. I did,

743
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Speaker 1: I didn't, I still don't know who this was. Looked

744
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: at me and just ropped his towel and was like, and.

745
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: I was like and went back to me.

746
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: It is a chapter in the memoir, but that was

747
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: my introduction and it's really gone. I should I say

748
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: uphill he's gone up from there. Alex's favorite sporting event.

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Speaker 5: You've covered the Olympics this year with you easy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We were in the Olympics all three weeks in Italy,

752
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: which was amazing. What about you favorite you've covered or

753
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Speaker 1: maybe if you want to cover one.

754
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Speaker 5: I really want to go to the w NBA Finals.

755
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: I would love to see that.

756
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 6: But more specifically, I don't know if there's like marathon

757
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 6: fans here, but I want to be in the lead

758
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 6: vehicle truck that is like leading the lead runners, and

759
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 6: there's always tech problems when they're trying to talk back

760
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 6: to the broadcast booth, and it just seems chaotic and

761
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 6: really fun, like a like a refcam but for a marathon.

762
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if you do.

763
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Speaker 1: That thing at that half marathon where they accidentally let

764
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: all the runners the wrong direction for a while, I'd

765
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: be screaming, Yeah, that wasn't so good. Mine is a

766
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: tie between World Series because I got to go to

767
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: every single game and I got to report from the

768
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Speaker 1: bars as like the representation of Chicago fans, which felt

769
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Speaker 1: very special. And I was on the double decker bus

770
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Speaker 1: in the parade thrown beers to Jake Arietta from the

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Speaker 1: top and like.

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Speaker 2: That was insane.

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Speaker 1: And it's tied with the Olympics though, because the Olympics

774
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: was so special, and I that leads me to my

775
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: what I want to cover, which is Summer Olympics, because

776
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Speaker 1: I haven't done the summer so anyways, some people from

777
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Speaker 1: my heart aren't here, look forward to putting those expenses

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Speaker 1: on the tab Dreams Sport related interview guest Alex.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so for those of you who listened to the show,

780
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 7: you know my last name is Azzie. I've pronounced it

781
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 7: Azzie but spelled the same way as Azy Fudd and

782
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Speaker 7: Jennifer Azy. And I did interview Azy Fudd back in

783
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Speaker 7: the day when she was I think Gatorade high school

784
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 7: Player of the Year.

785
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Speaker 5: But I would love to do.

786
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Speaker 7: An interview with Jennifer Azy, Azy Fudd and me and

787
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 7: we could probably spend five minutes talking about all of

788
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 7: the ways that we have heard our names mispronounced.

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Speaker 5: I love it, and then get into the basketball.

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Speaker 6: Bianca Okay, I was gonna say Asia Wilson, but I

791
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 6: got to talk to her this morning.

792
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: Dreams are coming true, are coming true. They are.

793
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 6: But I will invoke a name that you brought up with,

794
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 6: Muffet of Swim Cash. I will listen to her, and

795
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 6: I mean she's been on our show, but I will

796
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 6: listen to her talk all day.

797
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: Long on any podcast she's ever on.

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00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: She's very wise and funny and charming and wonderful and

799
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: all the things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah s, when's the best.

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Speaker 1: I'm having trouble with this one because there's the obvious

802
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: ones we want on the show, the Serena Williams, and

803
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 1: the Simone Biles, and the Asia Wilson's and the Caitlin Clark's,

804
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: like the very top that we haven't.

805
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: Quite gotten yet on the show.

806
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: But I would be lying if I didn't say I

807
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: actually do really want to sit down with Michael Jordan

808
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: for an interview. I just have to be honest, because

809
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm a good interviewer guys, and I have a lot

810
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: of questions for him, and I really would like to

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Speaker 1: pick his brain on stuff. And I've seen a couple

812
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: but very few, really thoughtful, intentional conversations with him, which

813
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: is a shame considering who he is. But I want

814
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 1: to go back to what you said, because you guys,

815
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: this is your very first WNBA All Star Week and

816
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: your very first experience, and you got to hang out

817
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: with Barack Obama this morning when I wasn't there, So

818
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Speaker 1: I need some takeaways.

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Speaker 5: Last morning maybe an overstatement.

820
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Speaker 7: We were in the balcony watching him and zooming in

821
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Speaker 7: on our iPhone so we could see.

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Speaker 2: What he was as closest where we're going to get Oh,

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Speaker 2: don't say that. Oh no, he's going to come on

824
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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do in person, Michelle, Barack, all of us, right, right,

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Speaker 1: of course.

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Speaker 7: Well, I want to say, and you've been there, but

828
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Speaker 7: the new court at the Obama Center they have WNBA

829
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 7: lines on it and is one of those things where

830
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Speaker 7: it is intentional, like and you think back to him

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Speaker 7: as president. He was one of the first people to

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Speaker 7: fill up both the men's and women's bracket for March

833
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Speaker 7: Madness and.

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Speaker 1: Invite them to the White House and all the stuff like.

835
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Speaker 1: He's always been intentional about it and genuine about it. Yes,

836
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Speaker 1: did he say anything about me?

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Speaker 2: He that's where you were okay, good? Yeah, and said

838
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Speaker 2: there was a spot on his private jet.

839
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Speaker 1: Oh.

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00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 7: Actually, Angel Reese had a great story. So she came

841
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 7: in yesterday on her own private jet and she said

842
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 7: that when they arrived, they got held and they weren't

843
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 7: able to get off the plane because of a VIP

844
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Speaker 7: And she was like, we're VIPs.

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Speaker 5: It was Obama, okay, and she was yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: What else did you take away so far from your

847
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Speaker 1: brief time here in my beautiful city.

848
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Speaker 6: Well, I feel like, in terms of WNBA All Star Weekend,

849
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Speaker 6: I did the equivalent of peaking in high school because

850
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 6: I showed up to get my media credential. Okay, I'm

851
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 6: turning the corner, haven't even entered the building. All of

852
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 6: a sudden, I'm in the background of the stud Buds

853
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Speaker 6: live stream. And it doesn't really get better than that. No,

854
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 6: you could go home right now, Yeah, I gotta go.

855
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: Did you do anything cool?

856
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, No.

857
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: If I could have gone back, I probably would have

858
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Speaker 2: done something.

859
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, I just saw like blue raspberry hair and

860
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 6: then I was like, whoa, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: I really know how much the stud Buds got paid

862
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: to dye their hair at and T blue. Yeah, because

863
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay me a lot of money. If I'm

864
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: dyeing my hair, I know that they are fast and

865
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: loose with their hair color a lot more than I am.

866
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Mine's mostly gray and then other things, but like straight

867
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: up blue. They probably got a pretty penny for that. Alex,

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Speaker 1: what would you do on the stud Buds seventy tower

869
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Speaker 1: live stream?

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Speaker 2: You have one?

871
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Because everyone knows what's my one skill? Thank you the splits.

872
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm so glad the brand is strong. Alex, what would

873
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: you do on the seventy tower live stream?

874
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 7: I mean I feel like my producer reaction is get

875
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 7: out of the way, Get out of the frame.

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00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: You're ruining it.

877
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I can't think of anything other than that,

878
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 5: get out the way.

879
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: That's why Alex and I do our different jobs. Alex

880
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: is like producer, get out of the way. This is

881
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: it's best. If I'm not in here and I'm like, hello,

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Speaker 2: I'm here, Yeah, you definitely would have split. Yeah. I

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Speaker 2: would have.

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Speaker 1: I would have immediately, regardless of context, no matter where

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Speaker 1: we were, would have been like, it's my moment. I

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Speaker 1: actually do really need to find Britney Griner this weekend

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Speaker 1: because Britney Grinder can drop it down and I'm like

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Speaker 1: between the two of us, we could get from the

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Speaker 1: baseline to half court, leg to leg, and we need

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Speaker 1: to hold it down for the talls.

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Speaker 2: Because people think we aren't bendy.

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Speaker 5: Oh we're bendy.

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Speaker 2: We're thank you, we're clipping that off, Bianco.

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Speaker 1: I want to wrap up by just talking about this

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Speaker 1: weekend and the larger message we're seeing sent year after

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Speaker 1: year as these Wnball Star weekends get bigger and better

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Speaker 1: and there's eight million events and last night I thought

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Speaker 1: I was already mostly dead and I was like, it's Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Got a power through.

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Speaker 1: But it really has become the place for people from

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Speaker 1: every single part of women's sports. My friend Carrie Fleishower,

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Speaker 1: if she's still here from Gotham, Yeah, from the NWSL,

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Speaker 1: I mean, from every sport, from every background. Like it's

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Speaker 1: not just basketball fans, it's everyone and culture and music

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Speaker 1: and all the things. And that's really cool because we've

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Speaker 1: needed that one uniting thing, the way the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: is for the men's.

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Speaker 7: Yet else like the super Bowl of women's sports. It's like,

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Speaker 7: if you care about women's sports, you come to WNBA

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Speaker 7: All Star.

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Speaker 1: Because WNBA Finals it's you don't know where it's going

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Speaker 1: to be and it's too many places. And WSL Championship

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Speaker 1: is another great place to get women together to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: But All Star has taken on this cultural cachet with

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Speaker 1: all the concerts and all the other stuff. Bank it

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Speaker 1: does feel like with you having worked at a previous

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Speaker 1: job that had a lot of sports in it but

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Speaker 1: wasn't women's sports specific, you're getting dropped into this first

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Speaker 1: of all daily show, so a repeated basic fire hose

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Speaker 1: of information and content, and this being your first experience,

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Speaker 1: Like what do you take away from the number of

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Speaker 1: people coming in, the number of brands coming in, the activations,

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Speaker 1: and what it says about the state of women's sports.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's amazing, And we've talked about this on the show,

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Speaker 6: and I think you can relate, Sarah on your career,

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Speaker 6: like covering general sports, which in a lot of newsrooms

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Speaker 6: and a lot of parts of society still means primarily

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Speaker 6: men's sports, and then moving into covering just women's sports,

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Speaker 6: Like there is.

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Speaker 2: A change there and it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: It's such an invigorating, fun place to be and feeling

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Speaker 6: that tangibly here this weekend has been amazing. I mean

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Speaker 6: last year I was watching the All Star game in

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Speaker 6: my living room with my partner, like just the two

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Speaker 6: of us, and now to be here.

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Speaker 1: Is on the live stream, on the live stream, hanging

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Speaker 1: with Barack and the stud buds, which is what we

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Speaker 1: say back home, and hope people don't ask follow ups

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Speaker 1: about what hanging out means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm very grateful for all of it.

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Speaker 1: And my message to as always all of the executives

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Speaker 1: at all the major networks and brands is if you

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Speaker 1: are showing up to Super Bowl and m NBA All

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Speaker 1: Star and you're not showing up here, that is why

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Speaker 1: you're using outdated heuristics about women's sports, and you're not

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Speaker 1: financially making the best decisions for your brands and companies

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Speaker 1: because they need to see it in person and feel

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Speaker 1: it and see all the things going on, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: they will start showing up even.

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Speaker 2: More often than they are now like you all did.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming out.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Alex and Bianca, thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to the show. I want y'all to know that today,

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Speaker 1: the show that's airing Cheryl Reeve is our five hundredth episode,

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Speaker 1: So we have a little celebration that we're all going

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Speaker 1: to get to be a part of. Not a lot

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Speaker 1: of things make it to five hundred, you know Michael

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Speaker 1: Angelo's David stealing Assistine Chapel.

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Speaker 2: We're up there with some pretty impressive things. Yes, watching.

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Speaker 1: Birthday to us, Happy birthday to Good Game, Happy birthday

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Speaker 1: to us.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's dig in. Thank you everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Muffett for taking the time and coming

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Speaker 1: out to Level Sporting Club, and thanks to Level for

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Speaker 1: hosting us.

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Speaker 2: Also have to say thank you to all the.

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Speaker 1: Slices who came out to see us on Friday, including

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Speaker 1: Amy List and Marsha Pearson in particular, and to my

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Speaker 1: amazing friends who came out to support and watch Big Citrus.

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Speaker 2: Had such a blast meeting and hanging out.

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Speaker 1: With all of you, and you heard us singing happy

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Speaker 1: Birthday to ourselves at the end of the show there

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Speaker 1: while our team at iHeartMedia got us a beautiful cake

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Speaker 1: to celebrate five hundred episodes, So thanks Jesse, Grace, Tari

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Speaker 1: and the rest of the team. Also, we did live

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Speaker 1: trivia at the end of the conversation where a bunch

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Speaker 1: of slaces won prizes, including Good Game merch. So shouts

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Speaker 1: to Breaking Tea for sending those teas out to us.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get your own to rock to

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Speaker 1: a future live show, hopefully in a city near you soon,

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Speaker 1: go to Breakingtea dot com slash Spain and in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: if you want to see what a good game live

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Speaker 1: show looks like, don't be shy, head on over to YouTube,

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Speaker 1: where you can watch full length good game interviews on

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Speaker 1: the Iheurtwomen's Sports YouTube channel, including this past weekend show.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have to take another break when we

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Speaker 1: come back, beach, don't kill my vibe.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back slices.

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Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to

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Speaker 1: get in the game every day too, So here's our

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Speaker 1: good gameplay of the day.

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Speaker 2: Rest, hydrate, and recover.

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Speaker 1: Even if you weren't at All Star weekend, I'm always

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Speaker 1: giving main character energy all but today it's the main

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Speaker 1: character from weekend at Bernie's. Yeah. Even extroverted extroverts need

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Speaker 1: a recharge every once in a while, So take care

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Speaker 1: of yourselves. I don't know, maybe just chill on the

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Speaker 1: couch and email us maybe your fave moments from the weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you went the stud Buds live stream, if you

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Speaker 1: were watching or from the game itself because we always

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Speaker 1: voicemail at eight seven two two four fifty seventy. And

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Speaker 1: I know there were at least two slices I met

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Speaker 1: this weekend who said I've listened to every show, but

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Speaker 1: I've never written in So now's your time. Yeah, talking

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Speaker 1: to you. Don't forget to subscribe, rate and review as well.

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Speaker 1: all of you who came to my city and marveled

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Speaker 1: over our lovely skyline ore can't be beat lake Shore bike.

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Speaker 2: Path and our miles of beaches.

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Speaker 1: Yes, beaches, sand water cabanas, the sun boats in the distance.

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Speaker 2: That's a beach.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who are so snobby you

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Speaker 1: need crystal clear blue water and a palm tree to

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Speaker 1: consider something a beach, well, I'm sorry for you. That

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Speaker 1: just means a better spot on the sand for me.

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Speaker 1: Now it's your turn you'll rate and review. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: See you tomorrow, when Big Citrus will share all the

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Speaker 1: details about.

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Speaker 2: What we got up to this weekend. Okay, maybe not

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Speaker 2: all the details.

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Speaker 1: Most of the details of what we got up to

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Good Game, Muppet, Good Game, Team Spoon, Cue

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Speaker 1: all my friends leaving Chicago come Back. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports

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Speaker 1: production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network,

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Speaker 1: our producers are Alex Azzi and Bianca Hillier. Our executive

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Speaker 1: producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rudder.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rudder, Lucy Jones, Britney Martinez and

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Speaker 1: Gianna Palmer. Production assistants from Avery Loftus and I'm Your

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Speaker 1: Host Sarah Spain