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Speaker 1: And now your host Isaiah Stan, Patrick Wi Harris, and
Speaker 1: Kyle Yemans. It's another off season edition of Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome into another episode.
Speaker 1: It's a different episode.
Speaker 2: We have Nick Harris's name in the intro for the
Speaker 2: first time. Sounded good. It's official now, Yeah, we couldn't
Speaker 2: give it away last week. Yeah, yeah, we had to.
Speaker 1: We had to wait a week kind of let the
Speaker 1: surprise happen. Now now, now it's in there. Now it's official.
Speaker 2: We're good to go. Patrick Nosey Walker out on vacation
Speaker 2: doing his thing.
Speaker 3: I scared him away, That's what really happened. All right,
Speaker 3: he'll be back next week.
Speaker 2: Oh good, nice, I will not be here. So you
Speaker 2: scared me away the second time around.
Speaker 1: But then we've got Isaiah stand back in the building. Hi, Kyle,
Speaker 1: how's your cracking?
Speaker 2: What's cracking? Yeah, what's cracking seven to two on Sunday?
Speaker 2: Oh my, you have to remind everybody about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's okay. You know you need sometimes you need a
Speaker 2: wake up call.
Speaker 4: Sometimes a series and it's just gonna it's gonna flip
Speaker 4: where sometimes teams just wake up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna flip. That team's gonna wake up tonight. Oh
Speaker 1: you guys sleeping? Oh they were through games. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, no doubt.
Speaker 2: So go stars, go go get the win the night.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and forces at least to six and
Speaker 1: then I'll go watch it clitching on the road and
Speaker 1: that'd be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, watch the watch the stars are six. I might
Speaker 4: have to come up there and meet you.
Speaker 2: Come on with it. Oh, that would be fun. That
Speaker 2: would be fun. Knuckles man, Why what's going on? I
Speaker 2: don't know whatever reason I've been giving. I've been getting
Speaker 2: called like knuckles today, and it.
Speaker 1: Just hurts a little bit at a little bit more
Speaker 1: hardware on the little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 1: shine there.
Speaker 2: Look at that. Yeah, nice Sunday baby.
Speaker 1: She is now officially Lorena Yeoman's your sun boomed?
Speaker 5: How about that long term contract?
Speaker 2: Lifetime kind bro The Night of our freaking lines. It
Speaker 2: was incredible. So many freaking fantasy land right there. It was.
Speaker 1: It was it was a fairy tale and she's a
Speaker 1: Disney princess, So there you go.
Speaker 2: I mean that's just kind of the.
Speaker 1: Whole whole thought process behind it. Everybody that's in here
Speaker 1: was there. I mean it was you guys saw the
Speaker 1: emotion that was there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean you didn't hold it together at all,
Speaker 2: due not at all.
Speaker 1: Once the once the videos come out, and I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for the videos and the photos are going to
Speaker 1: be incredible. We had a dream team, vendor team, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they were all incredible, and uh the video
Speaker 1: because I mean I was so in the moment and
Speaker 1: you could see I was just trying to keep it
Speaker 1: together as much as I possibly could.
Speaker 2: That didn't last very long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Kyle, But man, it was it
Speaker 1: was awesome.
Speaker 2: You know, you have, you and Steph Curry have some
Speaker 2: things in common.
Speaker 4: Interested you and Steph Curry and you guys don't look
Speaker 4: like brothers or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: But one comming olity is you guys both shoot your shots. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if.
Speaker 4: You know this, but take a look at your screen
Speaker 4: right now, this was this was Kyle. This was the
Speaker 4: napkin okay, at his at his reception, and this was
Speaker 4: the first shot that he shot at his young wife, Lorena.
Speaker 2: Now let me just look at it.
Speaker 5: Then that's a wordsmith if I've ever seen one.
Speaker 2: Litten, let's god of read that out. Okay. So there
Speaker 2: was a picture of his now wife, Okay.
Speaker 4: And it said this was what Kyle said in the DM,
Speaker 4: looking like a dime among the pines.
Speaker 2: Fire fire. That was your first shot at her? Yeah,
Speaker 2: if she responded, she did.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: We had known each other for years up to that
Speaker 1: point because we had met in college and so we
Speaker 1: just kind of kept up with each other. She was
Speaker 1: actually an intern with the Cowboys for a little bit, Okay,
Speaker 1: so we kind of kept in touch. And then COVID
Speaker 1: happened and she went on this trip in the middle
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty and I sent her that DM.
Speaker 2: She kind of out of the blue.
Speaker 1: We had not talked, we had not texted, we had
Speaker 1: not been romantically involved at all, like, but she was.
Speaker 2: She was looking like a dime amongst the pines, a
Speaker 2: dime amongst the pipes. That was what works? Would that
Speaker 2: have been your word choicing it.
Speaker 5: If it's that easy, then I don't know what.
Speaker 4: A dime among the pines. When mister Beemer in the
Speaker 4: back saw that and I saw that, we we lost
Speaker 4: it good.
Speaker 2: We lost it.
Speaker 4: But you know what, but we gained a lot of
Speaker 4: You gained a lot of respect that day because I
Speaker 4: don't think I would have shot that shot with those words,
Speaker 4: and it worked.
Speaker 3: The confidence, that's it's all. It's it's all about the confidence.
Speaker 3: As long as you have the confidence.
Speaker 6: Isaiah say to me, is like, hey, man, can you
Speaker 6: get that on the screen?
Speaker 1: And so it was Isaiah's I did I never do that.
Speaker 4: I mean I would have never thought that pine, trees
Speaker 4: and fire go together, but he found a way to
Speaker 4: make it go together.
Speaker 1: I don't know I should have put the tree emojis, honestly,
Speaker 1: but it worked out.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to change it.
Speaker 4: Normally you put three emojis back to back. You don't
Speaker 4: even put two. So you were in a rush to
Speaker 4: get that text out. You wanted to hurry.
Speaker 2: I want to get that thing out of there.
Speaker 1: How did I How long did I look at that
Speaker 1: long two emojis? I think I was confident. I went
Speaker 1: I shoved that shot up there man like it was.
Speaker 1: It was like a half court heave, Like that's what
Speaker 1: I needed. And you talk about out kicking your coverage
Speaker 1: and shooting your shot like, I mean I got both of.
Speaker 2: Those things down.
Speaker 1: All all of the sports analogies all kind of they
Speaker 1: all were there.
Speaker 2: I mean she was. She was the most beautiful bride,
Speaker 2: she really was.
Speaker 1: And uh, I can't wait for for Cowboys Nation to
Speaker 1: see the pictures because they're gonna see him garantee.
Speaker 4: She is an awesome individual. Yeah you really, you got
Speaker 4: you him? And she is an awesome human.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: If you guys have never had the opportunity to meet her,
Speaker 4: she is just just genuine as they come.
Speaker 2: Like literally, like there's no there's no anger.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if she even gets mad, or
Speaker 4: she does get mad, I wouldn't want to be around her.
Speaker 2: She gets mad, Yeah, she's She's from New York, so
Speaker 2: she's fine. Probably smiles when she's mad. That's probably a
Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah that's scary. Yeah, no, I'm gonna pray
Speaker 2: for you. It hasn't.
Speaker 1: Luckily, it hasn't been towards me a lot because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to avoid that. But every once in a while
Speaker 1: every once in a while, but she's the best and
Speaker 1: and I can't wait. But man, yeah, so much fun.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys were there, and and I can't.
Speaker 2: Wait for sure, right man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, what did you think about the dance? By
Speaker 1: the way, what do you think about the first dance?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was your goal to move man. I was
Speaker 2: worried about your hamstring, but you did good.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: I worked out with you in the morning. You tried,
Speaker 2: you tried to kill me. He y, he didn't sing
Speaker 2: in that be real. I wish I could have put
Speaker 2: that up here. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did not send that to you. But but Khy
Speaker 4: and his crew they came through in the morning. That
Speaker 4: was Kyle's request, can we work out the morning of
Speaker 4: my wedding? And I was like, are you serious right now?
Speaker 4: He was like yeah, I'm like all right, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to kill you.
Speaker 2: It was great. Actually, I love it. I'm glad you
Speaker 2: guys had a good time. Somehow, some way.
Speaker 4: He has two guys and his as his groomsmen that
Speaker 4: were both like mcglevin's. They one looks just like mcglevin,
Speaker 4: but he has two that act like mcglevin. I don't
Speaker 4: know how that worked. But your guys are awesome too.
Speaker 1: They were great, And I mean there was one Giants
Speaker 1: fan that was in there and he was geeking out
Speaker 1: and he told me last night we were having dinner
Speaker 1: and he was he was on the bench working out,
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, he.
Speaker 2: Won a Super Bowl for me.
Speaker 1: He was trying to finish his rap and he was
Speaker 1: trying to push it through and and he was like,
Speaker 1: he did it for me, This is for him, Like
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was fun, man. Everybody else was Cowboys fans.
Speaker 4: That makes it makes sense, I mean, because based upon
Speaker 4: what these guys are doing with their roster, they look
Speaker 4: like they're trying to get another thing on their form too.
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about that. Enough about the wedding
Speaker 1: and we'll talk plenty about it. I'm sure at some
Speaker 1: point we'll get the b roll up there. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about the yopsis for the Cowboys because we have
Speaker 1: some some big dates coming up. Thursday schedule release, so
Speaker 1: you get you're going to get to know the schedule,
Speaker 1: you know the home, you know the away opponents.
Speaker 2: We can kind of go through that if we really
Speaker 2: want to, but Thursday, anyways.
Speaker 1: Is going to be where it's all organized and you
Speaker 1: kind of know what's going on for this Cowboys schedule.
Speaker 2: But this offseason has been a good one, right for
Speaker 2: the most part. You kind of feel like it's been
Speaker 2: a good off season.
Speaker 1: What has been the most improved part of this roster
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the off season, through the draft,
Speaker 1: through undrafted free agency, and now on to the point
Speaker 1: where we're getting close to rookie mini camp, we're getting
Speaker 1: close to OTA's nick.
Speaker 2: Where do you feel like they've taken the biggest step.
Speaker 5: I think it's just filling holes and parts of need.
Speaker 3: You know, there's going to be a lot of inexperienced
Speaker 3: guys that are going to get an opportunity in training
Speaker 3: camp to step up. You know, I'm doing a breakdown
Speaker 3: the linebacker position right now, especially with the possibility that
Speaker 3: Micah Parsons could be spinning down to defensive end. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's something we get into later, but who kind of
Speaker 3: fills that role? And you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: open bodies that you know are ready to take on
Speaker 3: that challenge. And then if you at the offensive line,
Speaker 3: you know, if injuries are to happen, we kind of
Speaker 3: talked about it last week. You know, you have guys
Speaker 3: that are ready to step in and potentially contribute, and
Speaker 3: then you know, taking out Ezekiel Elliott, but inserting Deuce
Speaker 3: Vaughan that's explosion.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Then there was explosion that was needed at times last year,
Speaker 3: especially whenever the offense got stagnant, you know, adding weapons
Speaker 3: in the receiving corps with Brandon Cooks, more explosions. So
Speaker 3: I think there was just a lot of points of need,
Speaker 3: especially on the offensive side of the ball. And we
Speaker 3: saw how the season ended against San Francisco and needing
Speaker 3: that extra explosion. I think that was the most important
Speaker 3: part of need. So that maybe that was the biggest
Speaker 3: addressing of need that happened, was adding that explosion, but
Speaker 3: just overall on both sides of the ball, adding points
Speaker 3: of need.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to lean it towards defense.
Speaker 4: I totally agree with what you said, But if I
Speaker 4: had to pick a side, I'm gonna say that they
Speaker 4: made a decision at the in this offseason, if we
Speaker 4: had to make a choice between offense or defense being
Speaker 4: more dominant, I think they chose defense. I think they
Speaker 4: chose to be more dominant on defense. I mean that
Speaker 4: probably goes towards the fact that they felt like they're
Speaker 4: closer to being in that in that category of dominance, Right,
Speaker 4: It's like, we're probably closer.
Speaker 2: To being dominant on defense more so than offense.
Speaker 4: So let's just go ahead and just throw the extra
Speaker 4: chips in it that we need to be unstoppable in
Speaker 4: that regard, and I think that that's what they attained
Speaker 4: to try to that's what they sought after the do
Speaker 4: this offseason, obviously by adding to the secondary. Right, we
Speaker 4: did that by going out there in slidi fying at
Speaker 4: the quarterback position, and we went out there and added
Speaker 4: in a draft as well at the d line position,
Speaker 4: addressing that hole. Okay, you added an overshown at the
Speaker 4: linebacker position in terms of adding another speed guy at
Speaker 4: that second level, because you knew that you were going
Speaker 4: to lose lose quote unquote a linebacker, right, so you
Speaker 4: needed somebody else in that regard. And I still think
Speaker 4: they need to address that and within free agency, I
Speaker 4: think that needs to be addressed because I think we
Speaker 4: need probably two more guys at linebacker. But in terms
Speaker 4: of speed at the second level and being able to
Speaker 4: run and rush from that position, I think that they
Speaker 4: addressed that as well.
Speaker 2: So the addition to Gilmore, the edition of Smith, the
Speaker 2: addition of Overshow, I think.
Speaker 4: That they did a great job adding at every single
Speaker 4: level of that, and I think they are now in
Speaker 4: that category of dominant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes back to I mean we've talked about
Speaker 1: it before on this show. I know we talked about
Speaker 1: it on the Draft show. But if you have enough
Speaker 1: of one thing at another, if you are good at
Speaker 1: one spot, go ahead and keep addict, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: never relax in that regard. And you brought back Dan
Speaker 1: quint because of what he did in his first season,
Speaker 1: how he improved upon that in his second season. And
Speaker 1: of course he is well qualified to be a head
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. Everybody that's listening to this podcast
Speaker 1: probably knows that he's here for a reason, and he's
Speaker 1: here to be elite. He's here to build something special,
Speaker 1: and in order to do that, he needed a couple
Speaker 1: of pieces. Went out and got a veteran corner that
Speaker 1: can play with Trayvon Diggs, that can play with Doron Bland,
Speaker 1: that can play with these guys that you're gonna sprinkle
Speaker 1: in like a nay Sean, Right, and then even in
Speaker 1: Eric Scott if he ends up making a bit of
Speaker 1: a push as a draft picker.
Speaker 2: But you have a veteran quarter in Stefan Gilmourre that
Speaker 2: you can rely on.
Speaker 1: Now you have a big, big dude in the middle,
Speaker 1: not only to stop the run, but to try and
Speaker 1: present a little pass.
Speaker 2: Rush too, And that's Manzi Smith.
Speaker 4: And if there was no day in Quinn, you wouldn't
Speaker 4: have resigned Vanderish, you wouldn't have resigned Donal. Like those
Speaker 4: were the huge additions as well that people don't really
Speaker 4: look at. Obviously that kind of get overlooked, but those
Speaker 4: were key acquisitions as well, because those guys could have
Speaker 4: went wherever they wanted at that point. Right, So retaining Vanderish,
Speaker 4: retaining Donal, now all of a sudden, you're bringing guys
Speaker 4: back that Okay, these are sure things in our defense.
Speaker 4: Now to your point, Kyle, let's add to it right now,
Speaker 4: let's add what do we need to push us over
Speaker 4: the edge. It kind of gives me the vision of
Speaker 4: the game at the arcade, you know, the little quarters,
Speaker 4: and it has a little thing that keeps a little
Speaker 4: sweeper that keeps coming forward like they you just feel
Speaker 4: like Okay, if I.
Speaker 2: Just put a quarter right here, they're all going to
Speaker 2: fall forward.
Speaker 4: Like that's what they needed. They needed just those guys
Speaker 4: in places. Okay, now they're there. Now let's go ahead
Speaker 4: and drop a couple more in there, and they just
Speaker 4: this just might push us over the edge. You got
Speaker 4: the big tower leaning on the edge, right, because that's
Speaker 4: what you were last year.
Speaker 2: You were there.
Speaker 1: You were there to be elite, you were there to
Speaker 1: be dominant. So that coin tower standing right there on
Speaker 1: the edge, and.
Speaker 2: It just needs to get pushed over.
Speaker 4: If your offense you now fear this defense. I mean
Speaker 4: you already respected it. You had a high regard for
Speaker 4: this defense. But now it's like where is the weak spot?
Speaker 4: Based on paper?
Speaker 2: Right, bas not only just paper, but what they have
Speaker 2: shown in the past.
Speaker 4: So you retain pretty much everybody that you needed to retain,
Speaker 4: and then you add it onto it.
Speaker 2: So where they were weak, there's no longer a weakness there.
Speaker 2: There's not a soft spot. Right.
Speaker 4: It's like you were able to poke somebody in the
Speaker 4: stomach like Pillsbury. Okay, now that's a dog on rock
Speaker 4: hard stomach, right, Like this is no longer soft. The
Speaker 4: middle of the defense is no longer soft. Right, the
Speaker 4: linebacker of the corps is gonna get figured out. The
Speaker 4: cornerback position. Okay, we had some guys go down last year.
Speaker 4: We had some young, inexperienced guys. Okay, but now guess what.
Speaker 4: I'll look over there and I and I and I
Speaker 4: see dog On Gilmour. I look over on the other
Speaker 4: side and I see Digs. It's like, crap, there's no
Speaker 4: week spots. Let's go to the slot. Oh dog goner
Speaker 4: goes that dog On, second year player that was out
Speaker 4: there intercepting everything that came his way. Right, yeah, d
Speaker 4: dB so mean. So now you have no weak spots there. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's go to the secondary. Crap, they got all three
Speaker 4: safeties back.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, let's go to the d line. Oh, we
Speaker 4: don't want to pass against these guys. Get in the backfield. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's run the ball. Shoot, you got a dog On,
Speaker 4: you got the big boys in the middle. Now can't
Speaker 4: a twin tower. So now you have addressed all the
Speaker 4: weak spots, and there's no good place to attack this defense.
Speaker 4: Just like there's these bowling ball fullbacks. There's no good
Speaker 4: place to hit them. There's no big good place to
Speaker 4: attack this defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got six hundred and fifty pounds and
Speaker 3: then interior defensive behind.
Speaker 5: Now, no, it's just.
Speaker 3: That's that's not easy to run the ball off. But
Speaker 3: the defense is it is creating a fail safe of
Speaker 3: itself in some ways. You know, offense is like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna go out in that explosion, and defense is like, okay,
Speaker 3: like we see that, but we're gonna be ready in
Speaker 3: case that doesn't work out. And you know those times
Speaker 3: last year where you know the defense and again I
Speaker 3: mentioned this last week where the defense was on the
Speaker 3: field so much. But if you have guys that can
Speaker 3: rotate in and you don't have to have Mazie and
Speaker 3: Hankins on the field at the same time they can
Speaker 3: rotate in.
Speaker 5: Then you're creating a fail safe for yourself.
Speaker 3: And they can't run the ball against those guys, and
Speaker 3: you know that makes it a lot easier on your defense.
Speaker 1: Man, when's the last time that you have looked at
Speaker 1: this defense and said, exactly what I said and what
Speaker 1: Nick just said, you.
Speaker 2: Fear this defense?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, they were feared last year to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't a culture around it of like, oh man,
Speaker 1: those Cowboys are coming.
Speaker 2: Yet there was a couple holes. There were a couple
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean we were through the middle of
Speaker 1: October last year before they gave up two touchdowns in
Speaker 1: a game. They were the only team that did not
Speaker 1: give up multiple touchdowns.
Speaker 2: In a game until the later part of October. That's nuts,
Speaker 2: That is nuts. Two touchdowns, that's all it took.
Speaker 1: No, they only gave up one. Of course, there were
Speaker 1: some up and downs toward the back half of the season.
Speaker 1: But if they've improved the way that they think they have,
Speaker 1: or at least on paper it looks like they've improved,
Speaker 1: I think there is there's a culture that's being built,
Speaker 1: and it's being built yes with Mike McCarthy, but Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn is the one that's leading that charge on the
Speaker 1: defensive side.
Speaker 2: Now you've got the offensive side that needs to catch up.
Speaker 1: And then that's kind of where I'm going with it,
Speaker 1: because Nick, you said fail safe, you kind of need
Speaker 1: a fail safe because the offense right now, at least
Speaker 1: coming off of the season that they did, looks like
Speaker 1: they could use that fire power. Have they added enough
Speaker 1: with Brandon Cooks with the draft picks to build some
Speaker 1: confidence in terms of the firepower.
Speaker 2: That they have.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 3: So you know, you have a veteran in the room
Speaker 3: that knows how to play in a fiery offense and
Speaker 3: an explosive offense. He's played with Drew Brees, he's played
Speaker 3: with Tom Brady talking about Brandon Cooks, you know, can
Speaker 3: he bring that same element to the offense and also
Speaker 3: stay healthy And if he can, then yeah, absolutely, then
Speaker 3: we're talking about something. And especially if duce Vaughan can
Speaker 3: come in and contribute immediately, whether it be from out
Speaker 3: of the backfield or in the slot. I'm honestly kind
Speaker 3: of tempering my expectations on Ducevon going into the year
Speaker 3: just because he's still young.
Speaker 5: He's still small at the end of the day, and
Speaker 5: he is.
Speaker 1: A six round pick, and six round pick for sure,
Speaker 1: that's one of those developmental picks. And even I mean
Speaker 1: I had a fifth round great on him, that's a
Speaker 1: developmental round too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And let's say it works out and you know
Speaker 3: by the mid by mid season or late in the season,
Speaker 3: you know he's becoming an actual offensive weapon, then yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you have added enough of explosive fire and
Speaker 3: this to your offense. But looking at CD and Brandon
Speaker 3: Cooks alone in the receiving cores and then you have
Speaker 3: some athletic, versatile guys that are playing tight end. Now,
Speaker 3: I think the potential is there. It's always the potential
Speaker 3: has always been there, though it's about meeting it. And
Speaker 3: you know, I think with a different philosophy in the
Speaker 3: offensive game plan, we'll see early on if it's gonna
Speaker 3: work or not. I can tell you by game three,
Speaker 3: we're gonna look up and be like, Okay, I think
Speaker 3: this is the right mover. We're gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 3: this defense is gonna have to help us this year.
Speaker 3: So I think we'll know early on.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna have people thinking they've solved it
Speaker 1: through game one. Right, It'll be halftime and I'll send
Speaker 1: out my halftime thoughts, question mark, question mark, and everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, we need to get out of here.
Speaker 2: Like we need like like sell the team, like it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a terrible things.
Speaker 4: What do you guys believe that Brandon Cooks saw in
Speaker 4: Dack for him to come out and make the statement
Speaker 4: he made last week that.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to get to that.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that a little bit, so
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that and then some of
Speaker 1: these young wide receivers that could maybe step up.
Speaker 2: Let's take our first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll set that up and talk
Speaker 1: about it a little bit more with more talking cowboys.
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Speaker 2: What's your favorite type of taco?
Speaker 3: Just just regular beef fijido with some you know, cilantro
Speaker 3: cut onions in there.
Speaker 5: You know, a little sausa.
Speaker 2: Okay, favorite taco? Give me bean and cheese. Man, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I love me a being a cheese taco. I'm right
Speaker 2: there with you, dude. I don't know if that's my favorite.
Speaker 2: I like like chicken vehidas are great, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if that. Would you consider a fajida a taco?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Is a fia to a taco?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it's it's very similar. Passed
Speaker 2: on to the social media team for CA, but it's different.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's we've come up with great ideas social
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Speaker 2: Kyle your favorite tacos please? Yeah?
Speaker 1: DM me my yeah, favorite tacos that Kyle underscore yeomen's
Speaker 1: on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Just throw it. It would just make me hungry. Honestly,
Speaker 2: we need it.
Speaker 3: Out of context Talking Cowboys page is at a taco and.
Speaker 2: Just having a good question.
Speaker 1: Do we need to just tweet it on the Talk
Speaker 1: of Cowboys page. I feel like everything is out of context. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we could just put looking like a dime amongst the
Speaker 1: pines and then put and then put it a taco.
Speaker 2: Put that on the team page. We need that. We
Speaker 2: need that a pair of t shirt dime p I
Speaker 2: would I would pay you guys to show up with
Speaker 2: T shirts like I will got a page.
Speaker 12: I would rock that T shirt and wear hard. I'm
Speaker 12: waiting to camp, though, bro, I would totally need that camp.
Speaker 12: I'm wearing a white T shirt with it on. Absolutely
Speaker 12: have some Kaki shorts on. I already got the outfit
Speaker 12: picked out and I'll just.
Speaker 2: Have a fire. Don't make a white that's on TV.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I came straight from the wedding hotel. I
Speaker 1: didn't even get a polo on the day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe the hotel kicking it.
Speaker 2: Today's last day. They're checking out in an hour, so
Speaker 2: you know, once we get off, I can go back
Speaker 2: over there.
Speaker 1: But uh, all right, so you you mentioned the statement
Speaker 1: that Brandon Cooks made last week about Dak Prescott. So
Speaker 1: while they were at the Ralliant home run derby and
Speaker 1: they were having having fun, raising money for great causes
Speaker 1: and doing some some really cool events out there at
Speaker 1: the Rough Riders.
Speaker 2: Field, before you go to that, do we have any representatives?
Speaker 2: We did? We did have a rep. Who's Patrick.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: C Walker was our Rep. Patrick.
Speaker 4: No, he's not here to defend himself today, but he's not,
Speaker 4: but beemer, do we know how he did in the
Speaker 4: home run Derby who Patrick Patrick?
Speaker 12: No, s.
Speaker 2: I mean I can get someone on the phone. There's
Speaker 2: a there there's a rumor saying with your own eyes.
Speaker 3: There was a rumor that Kyle's bat came into play
Speaker 3: as far as there wasn't quote enough pop on the bat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did say that. So there wasn't enough pop
Speaker 2: on the bat. Ye, not the user, but the bat
Speaker 2: didn't have it. Okay.
Speaker 4: So being that the user didn't have any issues, what
Speaker 4: did his user? How many times did he hit it
Speaker 4: over the fence?
Speaker 5: I don't have the numbers on that one?
Speaker 2: Did zero? Oh? Nikes? Yeah, I don't think he hit one.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think he hit one. Uh the
Speaker 2: baseball player. Now, he raised one thousand dollars for charity.
Speaker 2: So he killed it. Yeah, so he put it in play,
Speaker 2: he hit it well, okay, he just didn't hit it
Speaker 2: over the fine. He didn't drop the album. I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to bring this up.
Speaker 1: So he was talking about the bat right and he
Speaker 1: and you were saying that I told him not to
Speaker 1: bring his bat, which I did.
Speaker 2: I did. I told him. I was like, you don't
Speaker 2: need it bad, you really don't. You can use your
Speaker 2: own bat.
Speaker 1: It's going to be fine, but then the bat has
Speaker 1: no pop on it. Argument, let's take this, let's take
Speaker 1: my camera right here. Last year, this is me last year.
Speaker 1: But if you can put it on camera here, let
Speaker 1: me you see it out, Kyle, I sent out thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah with that that bat. So you see the red stripes,
Speaker 2: the red and white stripes. It's an Eastern bat with
Speaker 2: like a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of pine tar on it or something intensity in a
Speaker 1: fake yellow and black no mouthpiece.
Speaker 2: That's Patrick m It looks like he's gonna bat. It's
Speaker 2: the same bat. Guys. Oh my, it's the same bats. Wow.
Speaker 2: Look at those manicured nails. Wow. Stop it the red,
Speaker 2: the red and white, red and white.
Speaker 5: I didn't notice the.
Speaker 2: Wow. So red and white, red and white. And then
Speaker 2: it's the same bat, baby, the same bat.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So same bat, different user, different results, different results.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't wait till he's back. He's gonna hate
Speaker 2: the fact that we had this conversation and then I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna be here.
Speaker 4: I too have made those statements about a bat not
Speaker 4: having enough pop, but you usually like okay, instead of
Speaker 4: it going four hundred and you know, it went like
Speaker 4: three fifty.
Speaker 2: Stop how are you putting hundred out? How far is
Speaker 2: that fence that you guys were hitting on? Oh it's short, smash, smash,
Speaker 2: so mash. He smashed some baseballs though he hit it hard.
Speaker 2: You know what video, He hit it hard.
Speaker 1: He was hitting line drives though he's getting base You
Speaker 1: gotta get under it.
Speaker 2: That's the big thing. You gotta get under it. And
Speaker 2: it's trying to drop that into that back. Hell dude, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that was.
Speaker 4: But you know he raised money, so good job, no thousand,
Speaker 4: good job raised some money forever for for the needy.
Speaker 2: But but we gotta work at your hitting.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, we'll get him out there next year.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it work, all right. So Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: On Wednesday, during that that event during the reliant home run,
Speaker 1: Derby said, I've been around some great ones speaking on
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and quarterbacks in general, and we've been throwing
Speaker 1: and I've got to tell you that guy can sling
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 2: He is special. Thoughts on how he I mean, because
Speaker 2: he's played with some good quarterbacks. What quarterbacks does he
Speaker 2: played with? Uh, let's let's list them.
Speaker 5: Drew Brees and Tom Brady. I know oh those two guys,
Speaker 5: Davis Mills, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh good. Drew Brees has a cannon. Tom Brady
Speaker 2: has a cannon. Yeah. Yeah, So for him to come out.
Speaker 4: And say that that dude can sling it, yeah, he's
Speaker 4: throwing them in the category of at least arm strength.
Speaker 4: He's at least addressing the arms strength aspect of things. Okay,
Speaker 4: then he he is special. That's what caught my attention.
Speaker 1: It's different, right, it's a different saying it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to say that.
Speaker 3: And I think the word choice of sling it really
Speaker 3: emphasizes power. Yeah, yeah, it's not man, he puts it
Speaker 3: on a dime. He's he's putting it right in my
Speaker 3: bread baskets.
Speaker 5: He can sling it.
Speaker 4: He's not talking about the acuracy aspect. He's talking about straight, pure,
Speaker 4: pure velocity.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But then he did the special comic really grabbed my
Speaker 4: attention because of the quarterbacks that he's played with. So
Speaker 4: he made it very clear that hey, I've played with
Speaker 4: some great ones, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, some of thea
Speaker 4: this one is special. So he's making a distinct difference
Speaker 4: between this one and the ones he's already played with.
Speaker 2: What did he see so far?
Speaker 4: What has he seen so far in Dak that he
Speaker 4: may not have seen or is complementary to what he's
Speaker 4: seen in the past.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's an interesting question.
Speaker 3: Just I mean, if we're looking at where Dak is
Speaker 3: in his career right now, are we talking peak potential?
Speaker 5: Just let's take the turnovers out of the equation.
Speaker 3: What he's been able to do with play action, what
Speaker 3: he's been able to do with you know, taking on
Speaker 3: different challenges with many different offensive philosophies, being able to
Speaker 3: adjust to that in a quick way, being able to
Speaker 3: score in bursts at times.
Speaker 5: Do we think he's kind of in his peak right now?
Speaker 3: And if we say yes, then I see where Brandon
Speaker 3: Cooks is coming from, because a peak Dak does look
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 5: Is it a top five to eight quarterback in the league.
Speaker 5: I think that's something for debate.
Speaker 3: But if he thinks it is, then you know, I
Speaker 3: think there is something to see there, and it's Dak
Speaker 3: at his bet and I think that is special.
Speaker 1: When you look at the list of quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: in the NFC compared to the list of quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: are in the AFC, it's argued that dak is a
Speaker 1: top two or three quarterback in the NFC, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just just based on not saying in
Speaker 1: the NFL, but in the NFC he is. I mean
Speaker 1: it's him, Jalen Hurts, Kirk Cousins and those are kind
Speaker 1: of the three guys. Daniel Jones is even up there.
Speaker 1: Am I missing anybody in terms of the NFC because
Speaker 1: it's really kind of a mess quarterback wise. So to
Speaker 1: be in the position that the Cowboys are in, to
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that you can rely on, find him
Speaker 1: that firepower, find him the weapons on the outside that
Speaker 1: where he can have some success. Block up front for him,
Speaker 1: go and get him some offensive line help. And I
Speaker 1: think if you would ask Cowboys fans and pull Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans right now, where are they the weakest offensively, it'd
Speaker 1: probably be the interior of the offensive line. Find a
Speaker 1: way to protect that guy. Because now he has some
Speaker 1: weapons like a Brandon Cooks to throw the football too.
Speaker 1: He has a new tight end to throw the football
Speaker 1: to Luke skun Maker, So you have some options there.
Speaker 1: But can he put it together from an offensive line
Speaker 1: standpoint and a pressure standpoint to really sit back and
Speaker 1: deliver and sling it like Brandon Cooks is talking about.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing for me right now now with
Speaker 1: Brandon specifically, what should the expectations be for Brandon Cooks?
Speaker 1: Because six one thousand yard receives or one thousand yard
Speaker 1: receiving seasons, two of those in New Orleans, one with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in New England, one with the Rams and
Speaker 1: Jared goff in twenty eighteen, and then two with Houston
Speaker 1: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. Last year, Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: had fifty seven receptions for six hundred and ninety nine
Speaker 1: yards in thirteen games. So based on his last couple
Speaker 1: of seasons, he's had one thousand yards and two of three.
Speaker 1: What should the expectations be for Brandon Cooks going into
Speaker 1: his first Cowboys heear.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Cayle.
Speaker 4: I'm really intrigued and interested to see how they're going
Speaker 4: to utilize him in CD together.
Speaker 2: I don't get into that number one, number two one
Speaker 2: A one be. I don't get into that mess. Right Well,
Speaker 2: it's one too. I mean it's pretty I see, then Cooks,
Speaker 2: when you're.
Speaker 4: Running complementary offense, like I don't, I don't, you know, personally, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 4: Like, if you're gonna pick one guy, the only time
Speaker 4: you're gonna really need to have a number one is
Speaker 4: if you're getting down on goal line and you're going freaking,
Speaker 4: you know, freaking thirteen personnelity, you know, like that's that's
Speaker 4: the only time. Like they're really mad as But these
Speaker 4: guys are gonna play and they're gonna boast well for
Speaker 4: each other. I'm interested interested to see what type of
Speaker 4: route concepts in route trees they are going to be
Speaker 4: asked to run. They can run it all, no doubt
Speaker 4: about that, but most guys gravitate towards a handful of
Speaker 4: routes that they run really well, and their coaches rely
Speaker 4: on them. When they have these concepts they call these concepts,
Speaker 4: they're gonna say, hey, you know, Cooks, he's he's our
Speaker 4: he's our dig runner.
Speaker 2: You know, see these are post runner like.
Speaker 4: Whatever those guys do really well, they're gonna kind of
Speaker 4: lean on them to be experts in those particular routes.
Speaker 4: I'm interested interested to see which of those routes they
Speaker 4: lean on each of those guys, and if they differ,
Speaker 4: are they gonna be kind of do they run the
Speaker 4: same routes the same way?
Speaker 2: Do they you know, does one guy run a double
Speaker 2: move better than the other guy.
Speaker 4: I want to see that competition, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 4: it's an interpersonal competition between those two that helps elevate
Speaker 4: both of their games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it starts obviously with where they
Speaker 3: line up. You know, they've talked about wanting to hone
Speaker 3: in CD in the slot and have him, you know,
Speaker 3: have the whole field to be able to use those
Speaker 3: route concepts. So do they keep him at the slot
Speaker 3: and put Cooks out at the Z and let him
Speaker 3: work right off the line, or do they move them
Speaker 3: both between both sides and you know, just kind of
Speaker 3: make it fluid throughout the entire game because that eventually
Speaker 3: makes it tougher to cover. So I think that'll be
Speaker 3: really interesting to see. I think we could see that
Speaker 3: as early as preseason.
Speaker 1: And you also want some supplemental weaponry too, right, you
Speaker 1: want to find some of those guys, those younger guys,
Speaker 1: Jalen Tolbert and even Simmi Fojoko.
Speaker 2: It's weird calling him a younger guy.
Speaker 1: Now, like the time is up for Simmy Fojoko he's
Speaker 1: got to get some sort of product taken care of.
Speaker 1: So with those two guys in the fold, the wide
Speaker 1: receiving core could look complete from top to bottom if
Speaker 1: you have some production underneath, with the addition of cooks
Speaker 1: and then with a step up from those guys. So
Speaker 1: when we come back, I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: possibilities for this young wide receiver corps and getting some reps.
Speaker 1: Really interesting mail bag question. Nick and Patrick did it.
Speaker 1: Both both did a great job of answering that mail
Speaker 1: bag question. I kind of want to go through it
Speaker 1: and get your thoughts Isaiah, and Nick, I want you
Speaker 1: to kind of explain your answer there too when we
Speaker 1: come back.
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Speaker 1: here of Talking Cowboys, Nick Harris, we've got Isaiah stanback,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back, I'm Kyle Yeoman's I'm Lorena's husband.
Speaker 2: That's just I'm gonna get. I need to get. We
Speaker 2: filmed the.
Speaker 1: Blitz on Friday. I need to get Jodie Rymers, who's
Speaker 1: one of our graphic designers. I needed him to just
Speaker 1: put Lorena's husband on.
Speaker 2: The war with her. She was so excited to put
Speaker 2: that ring on your finger. Dude. Yeah, she was like,
Speaker 2: finally I get to mark my claim. She really was.
Speaker 2: She was actually like jumping up and down getting on
Speaker 2: the stage. Yeah. It was fun man.
Speaker 1: All right, So before we wrap things up, we want
Speaker 1: to talk about these young players that can get some reps.
Speaker 1: There's a mail bag on Dallas Cowboys dot com and apologies.
Speaker 1: It was Patrick Walker who did a great job of answering.
Speaker 1: I really loved his answer, and then Nick Eatman who
Speaker 1: actually answered this. But we'll get Nick Harris to give
Speaker 1: his insight on it too. The question was talking about
Speaker 1: rookie Minnie Camp coming up this weekend, and of course
Speaker 1: we're gonna get see all all of the rookies, all
Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents, and their first action with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this week. It seems like there's a focus given
Speaker 1: to the season's vets or seasoned vets. Excuse me, case
Speaker 1: in point the wide receiver position. What about Jalen Tolbert
Speaker 1: and Semi Fojoco. If the first teamers are running the
Speaker 1: majority of the reps, how can a young receiver build
Speaker 1: timing and trust with the starting quarterback? Same question on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, because you're getting the
Speaker 1: reps from the rookies, yes, but whenever you kind of
Speaker 1: get pushed down the depth chart the way that Jalen
Speaker 1: Tolbert Simmi Fojoco, just as an example, have been the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, how do you get those reps and.
Speaker 2: You build that sort of mentality.
Speaker 4: I'll start with you, Isaiah, great question, and I definitely
Speaker 4: can address that because that was me for a good.
Speaker 2: Portion of my career. You show out with the other guys.
Speaker 2: That's what you do. You prove that you are trustworthy,
Speaker 2: You prove that you are consistent. You prove that you
Speaker 2: know where to.
Speaker 4: Line up, that you can pick up the audibles, that
Speaker 4: you can read the defenses correctly, and that you are
Speaker 4: a guy that can be relied upon. That's how you
Speaker 4: get an opportunity to start getting reps with the ones.
Speaker 4: And when you get those opportunities with the ones, don't
Speaker 4: get deer in the headlights. Go out there and do
Speaker 4: the same thing you were doing with the other guys
Speaker 4: and that and when you become that trustworthy guy, that's
Speaker 4: when you start doing well. There's no different than the
Speaker 4: last last year. I'm blinking out on the young man's name.
Speaker 2: He wore three oh Brown, No, not Brown, I said
Speaker 2: three oh. Dennis Houston.
Speaker 4: Dennis Houston. Dennis Houston did it training camp. Dennis Houston
Speaker 4: did the last last training camp. He became a consistent
Speaker 4: guy for DAK and so much so that he threatened
Speaker 4: the position. Only the problem was when Dennis Houston had
Speaker 4: to play with the backups, he didn't do well right,
Speaker 4: So it was kind of flipped right. You usually don't
Speaker 4: see it that way. Usually you see the backups link
Speaker 4: up together and then when they get with the big
Speaker 4: you know, the number ones, they kind of fall off
Speaker 4: or they don't put out the same performance. Dennis Houston
Speaker 4: did it the opposite way in training camp. So what
Speaker 4: you have to do is you have to not only
Speaker 4: show out with the number two's and the threes, quarterbacks
Speaker 4: four is even okay, and then the number one quarterback
Speaker 4: is gonna.
Speaker 2: Sit back and be like, yo, okay, I see you,
Speaker 2: I see you.
Speaker 4: And then every so often you'll see them step up
Speaker 4: in one on ones and be like, okay, let me
Speaker 4: let me go out there and check it to them
Speaker 4: real quick and see if they have any chemistry. And
Speaker 4: if you take care of business there, then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden you might hop in and get some team
Speaker 4: reps because now your coach trust that you're going to
Speaker 4: be in the right spot, that you're not going to
Speaker 4: mess up and make him look bad.
Speaker 2: Right, that's the big part of it. People don't talk
Speaker 2: about that aspect.
Speaker 4: Coaches aren't even gonna put you in a position to
Speaker 4: mess up in practice because that and then in turn
Speaker 4: looks bad on them. It says that they're not doing
Speaker 4: what they need to do behind closed doors. So you
Speaker 4: have to be that trustworthy guy in there, and then
Speaker 4: the coach puts you in position to be successful, and
Speaker 4: then once he puts you actually on the field, now
Speaker 4: you have to gain the trust worthiness of the quarterback.
Speaker 3: And there's going to be an opportunity in training camp
Speaker 3: for one of these guys if we look at the
Speaker 3: receiving core right now, there's a very clear top three.
Speaker 3: You got Cede Lamb, you got Brandon Cooks, and you
Speaker 3: got Michael Gallup. That fourth spot you got see me,
Speaker 3: Fo Hooko, Jalenbert, maybe even Cavante Turpin. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: variety of guys that you could throw in right there
Speaker 3: that would have an opportunity. Dennis Houston maybe again, Dennis
Speaker 3: Houston absolutely, and then there's a couple of undrafted free
Speaker 3: agents and obviously Jalen Brooks as well. But I think
Speaker 3: there will be at least one of these guys that
Speaker 3: will have to One of these guys will have to
Speaker 3: step up, and if they don't.
Speaker 5: Will McLay talked about it a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3: He's like, the free agent market is still very much
Speaker 3: on the table, So it's performed now, or you know,
Speaker 3: you get moved up and potentially cut off the roster
Speaker 3: off one of these guys.
Speaker 1: And since they were talking about the defensive side too
Speaker 1: and kind of asking the same question, there are names
Speaker 1: on the defensive side that have the same sort of problem.
Speaker 2: Neville Gallimore is.
Speaker 4: One of those.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's entering year four, this is a contract
Speaker 1: year for him, he hasn't shown up the way that
Speaker 1: you would anticipate a third round defensive tackle.
Speaker 2: To show up. Oh Sadiggi's who has done so.
Speaker 1: Chauncey Goldston has even flashed at times, but Nevill Gallimore
Speaker 1: just hasn't been there before, hasn't been what you expected.
Speaker 1: Same thing from Jabrill Cox. Gabrill Cox was a Day
Speaker 1: three pick, but still they thought the value was there
Speaker 1: from that selection, and the injury has played a massive
Speaker 1: part in that unfortunately. But which one of those guys
Speaker 1: is under the most pressure kind of like what we
Speaker 1: just talked about with Tolbert or Fojoco Nick, because both
Speaker 1: Galamore and Cox need to have a they need to
Speaker 1: have a big season.
Speaker 3: I think it would be Gallamore. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 3: the easy answer. Just because there's they drafted over in
Speaker 3: the interior defensive line. There's less opportunities for him this year.
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna have more limited opportunities than he
Speaker 3: had last season, so you know when he steps in,
Speaker 3: he's going to have to perform at a higher clip
Speaker 3: than he did last year.
Speaker 2: Totally agree with you.
Speaker 4: You got to remember last season they drafted an interior
Speaker 4: defensive lignment by the name of John Ridgeway, and they
Speaker 4: chose Gallimore over Ridgeway.
Speaker 2: That's how type the D line room was.
Speaker 4: Then. Now all of a sudden, you take a D
Speaker 4: lineman at first, Well, guess what, he's not going to
Speaker 4: get cut in camp, so he's going to be there.
Speaker 4: So in terms of somebody being in a hot seat,
Speaker 4: it absolutely has to be Galimore, especially when they were
Speaker 4: a veteran and a first round rookie that played the
Speaker 4: same exacquisition as you do.
Speaker 2: What impact are you going to make? You know, both
Speaker 2: of those guys aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to absolutely ball out to keep the
Speaker 4: rest of these guys off your back.
Speaker 5: It like he hasn't been healthy either, That's that's another instance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to get on the field too.
Speaker 6: And remember Gallimore was playing in that last preseason game.
Speaker 6: If you guys remember, I mean that he was out
Speaker 6: there well into the third and fourth core and everybody
Speaker 6: was like, borderline, Gallimore is still out there and they're like, well,
Speaker 6: he's competing for a spot at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're exactly right, because I remember you and
Speaker 1: I were talking about it and the fact that he was.
Speaker 1: He was even in the game late in that that
Speaker 1: third and final preseason game at AT and C Stadium,
Speaker 1: and we were looking at each other like, is this
Speaker 1: telling us something or is this just a guy trying
Speaker 1: to get reps? Because of course the year before that
Speaker 1: he got hurt in Arizona in the preseason, so it
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, he hasn't been healthy, which he's been
Speaker 1: on and off the field, but for the most part,
Speaker 1: you got to be on the field and got to
Speaker 1: be productive. I think Quentin Bohanna is very similar in
Speaker 1: that same realm because you got drafted over. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mazzie Smith and Jonathan Hankins are back. Quentin Bhana is
Speaker 1: he on alert in terms of being a nose tackle
Speaker 1: and being somebody on this roster. Isaac Callercrohn, he made
Speaker 1: the switch from offensive line to defensive line. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be an uphill battle for him to make the roster
Speaker 1: because he's out of those exemptionures. So there were so
Speaker 1: many questions on the defensive line going back to linebacker.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: You add to Marvin Overshown, then you add that to
Speaker 1: the to the combination of jabro Cox, Devin Harper, Malik Jefferson,
Speaker 1: out of those three guys, who do you think has
Speaker 1: the best shot at sticking around come training camp in
Speaker 1: past training camp.
Speaker 3: This was something I was breaking down yesterday and I
Speaker 3: was going through the wonders of PFF, trying to break
Speaker 3: down where the guy has the most experienced that in
Speaker 3: different linebacking slots. I'm gonna say to Marvion Overshown, but
Speaker 3: I'm not confident in that answer. Well, I just think
Speaker 3: it's because of his athleticism, his ability to play in
Speaker 3: all three levels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he'll I mean, he's a third
Speaker 1: round draft pick, He's going to be on the roster
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. But then you also got
Speaker 1: Devin Harper, h six round pick, speedster special teams. Where
Speaker 1: does he fit in is even in the rotation because
Speaker 1: in front of Demarvin Overshown you have Damone Clark and
Speaker 1: late Vander esh So I agree with you completely. I
Speaker 1: think Demarvin Overshown is going to rotate through. But then
Speaker 1: there's how do you fit in a Malik Jefferson and
Speaker 1: a Devin Harper and a Jabril Cox. If you have
Speaker 1: the confidence in these three guys, it's tough. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're going to be able to bring all three guys.
Speaker 1: That's just the way I see it.
Speaker 6: And if you really want to know, and that second
Speaker 6: preseason game, all you have to do is look out
Speaker 6: who runs out there on punt coverage for the linebackers,
Speaker 6: I mean, the first team punt coverage. That's probably gonna
Speaker 6: be the guys that they're working out to be on
Speaker 6: the roster.
Speaker 4: You like that punk coverage, don't you, Isaia. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's so much value on special teams. I'm glad Beamber
Speaker 4: brought that up to his point. It's very telling. It's
Speaker 4: very telling when you start looking. As we get closer
Speaker 4: to camp and started seeing preseason games, all that stuff's
Speaker 4: gonna matter. So we started looking at this battle at
Speaker 4: that second level between Jefferson and Harper, which one is
Speaker 4: gonna stand out more in special teams that's where you're
Speaker 4: gonna be playing. You're not gonna be rotating in on
Speaker 4: defense most likely. So how can you suit up every week?
Speaker 4: And if you're not suiting up every week, then you're
Speaker 4: not on his roster. Gosh, yeah, you gotta be. You
Speaker 4: gotta be available, best available. Best ability is availability. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's been a buzzword.
Speaker 2: And a common term around these walls the impact. What
Speaker 2: impact can you make? You know what what is going
Speaker 2: to be your impact?
Speaker 4: Are you just another guy that I'm throwing on every
Speaker 4: for depth or you actually gonna make an impact in
Speaker 4: one third of the game.
Speaker 3: And we've seen guys over extend their stays on a
Speaker 3: roster by having that specialty stability and then eventually finding
Speaker 3: that role on a defense.
Speaker 5: You know, a yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: That's a great yeah, great example.
Speaker 1: All right, rookie Minnie Camp coming up this weekend, Nick,
Speaker 1: Who's the guy you want to watch the most that
Speaker 1: you're gonna see through the weekend.
Speaker 3: I think Mazi is the easy answer. I also look
Speaker 3: outside of Mazi, obviously to marve On as well. But
Speaker 3: this is gonna be I'm gonna go on to the field.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look around. I'm gonna be where is Hunter Lipke.
Speaker 3: I want to see that guy in action. I want
Speaker 3: to see him go.
Speaker 2: I like that full back pha tight end. I don't
Speaker 2: even care. He's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 4: Who do you think I'm gonna look at the tight ends.
Speaker 4: I want to see what Luke Schoonmaker is gonna do.
Speaker 4: I want to see how does his feet look? You know, what,
Speaker 4: how was he putting himself in position? You know a
Speaker 4: lot of times last year's draft, we sat there and
Speaker 4: watching Ricky mean Cavin. We're trying to keep an eye
Speaker 4: out and see how these guys are gonna be moving around.
Speaker 2: Are they big enough? Right?
Speaker 4: Do they have enough weight in there? But like, those
Speaker 4: are things I want to see. He got drafted for
Speaker 4: a particular reason, for for a specific purpose. What is
Speaker 4: going to be impact that he makes on as an
Speaker 4: extension of that offensive line and the house off to
Speaker 4: his hands.
Speaker 1: I want to see whose ankles do's vun it's gonna
Speaker 1: break first. I want to see I want to see
Speaker 1: who he oh yeah, oh yeah. I want to see
Speaker 1: who he gets through first.
Speaker 2: That's one of my things.
Speaker 1: I also want to see Philoco. I want to see
Speaker 1: Junior Fojoco kid after it and see what he can do.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be really fun to watch when
Speaker 1: we actually get to training camp, I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: look up.
Speaker 2: He's wearing ninety three at the at the moment.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, all of those are subject to change,
Speaker 1: but I think we're gonna look up at training camp.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say, Man ninety three is balling, got something
Speaker 1: going on out there, and I think that'll be what
Speaker 1: we see from from Junior Fooco. All right, that does
Speaker 1: it for us. On Talking Cowboys next week, Patrick will
Speaker 1: be back.
Speaker 4: I will not be.
Speaker 2: We will have Hailey Sutton hosting the next two shows.
Speaker 1: She's gonna come in do a great job Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: with Haley Sutton hosting some things. But everybody should be
Speaker 1: back and ready to go in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go watch the Stars clinch Game six,
Speaker 1: go ahead and move on to the Western Conference Finals
Speaker 1: in person with Isaiah On on Saturday.
Speaker 2: All Stars fans, good luck, Thanks buddy, honestly might need it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: After After Sunday is kind of a virtual handshaker. I
Speaker 2: got off the I got off.
Speaker 1: The dance floor and one of my friends came up
Speaker 1: to me. He's like, you want to know the star scorer?
Speaker 1: And I was like, was it good? And he was
Speaker 1: like no, and I was like, just just let me know,
Speaker 1: and he's like seven to two and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, it was like the one bad thing of
Speaker 1: the whole wedding night.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what the good news is for the stars,
Speaker 4: you know, the best player for the crack and actually
Speaker 4: comes back and starts playing today.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's fine.
Speaker 1: It was the Patrick Ewing effect. Now they're gonna play worse,
Speaker 1: So that's fine. The works, they'll make a work out.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: For Isaiah stand back for Nick Harris, for Chris Beam
Speaker 1: in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying.
Speaker 2: So long from Talking Cowboys. We will see you next Tuesday.
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