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Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps. The roster is ever evolving, and

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Speaker 1: it's all about finding the edge. This is the last word.

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Speaker 1: The off season home of the Indianapolis Colts. Now here's

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in every Friday evening ninety three five one, mayte

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, myself. I'm Jeffrey Gorman coming up on tonight's show,

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Speaker 2: may Tey. We're going full steam ahead. The super Bowl

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Speaker 2: is in the rear view mirror, and we got a

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Speaker 2: lot to go over because this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a busy off season for the Colts. We'll get into that.

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Speaker 2: We're also going to talk to Clark Judge from the

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Speaker 2: Talk of Fame network. He's also a Hall of Fame voter,

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Speaker 2: so we're hopefully going to have a chance to tee

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Speaker 2: off on Clark Judge, jeff for a couple of minutes. Maddie,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are we thinking out there? Adam venteris

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Speaker 2: still on the shelf, the best of ever kick footballs

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Speaker 2: with a great passion like no one else has ever

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Speaker 2: done it. Yeah, we're gonna have some fun. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: tee off on Clark a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I said, when I invited him on

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Speaker 3: the show and I reached out to him, I said, hey,

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Speaker 3: can you be a punching bag for like twelve minutes.

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Speaker 3: You know, you are one out of fifty guys that

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Speaker 3: represents the entire group, right, So we're gonna just take

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Speaker 3: our shots at you. You're gonna have to sit here

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Speaker 3: and take and explain how this new process works and

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Speaker 3: why guys like Adam Viniti and Regu Wayne are still

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Speaker 4: But now Clark's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna give us some more insight in the process

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Speaker 3: and what it looks like for Adam Vanenterian regu Wayne

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Speaker 3: down the road and their prospects of one day getting

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a good conversation.

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Speaker 2: A whole lot more coming up with Clark in a

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Speaker 2: little bit. But maytay, we got the free agency primer

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Speaker 2: time of the year right now, and the Colts have eighteen,

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Speaker 2: that's right, eighteen unrestricted free agents in that locker room

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Speaker 2: this offseason. Some of the big names, Dioa, dangbo EJ.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be a busy offseason for Chris Ballards.

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Speaker 2: Some of these fellas are gonna be back, some of

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Speaker 3: Fryes so eighteen in total. Like you said, unrestricted in

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Speaker 3: house free agents this offseason for the Indianapolis Colts, and

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Speaker 3: free agency officially begins March tenth, and up until then,

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Speaker 3: them with other teams. That's known as the legal tampering period. So,

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Speaker 3: believe it or not, that period of time is gonna

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Speaker 3: talking about this. And the Colts have some really interesting

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, mate, give me some big names, biggest priority

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you can make a strong case to

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Speaker 3: But if you're asking me for a priority list, I

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Speaker 3: I'm going with Will Fries. To me, he's turned into

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Speaker 3: He was a seventh round pick, but he's really come on.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're gonna see some new faces. Some old faces

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Speaker 2: will be coming back, but those rookies from last year,

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Speaker 2: rookie class. Matt Taylor, Leatu Latsu Okay number one at

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Speaker 2: NI Mitchell number two. Those are last year's top two

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Speaker 3: In college he was the VET, he was the pro,

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey he's capable of a lot more than what he

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Speaker 2: That's Matt Taylor voice to the Colts may tay you

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Speaker 2: talked about it earlier. You know, I'd like to see

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Speaker 2: let's not forget about mac gunnslves Tanner Bordolini from last

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and their presence, specifically Bordolini's, really impacts Ryan

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Speaker 3: both of us, Jeffrey. We love Ryan Kelly around here.

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Speaker 3: Great guy. He has been a great cult, great leader.

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Speaker 3: But the harsh reality of the business is when he

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Speaker 3: contract year, plus the drafting of Tanner Bordolini, it did

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Speaker 3: that lands. But Bordolini came in and played well in

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Speaker 3: and then gonzalves to your point Swiss Army Knife left

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Speaker 2: Good stuff today. May Te love the outlook and what

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Speaker 2: Don't forget the NFL Combines coming to Indianapolis. Mayte, myself,

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Speaker 2: Casey Valier, Lara Overton, JJ Stankovitz will all be down

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Speaker 2: growth of high school girls flag football. It continues the

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Speaker 2: team's goals to launch one hundred high school girls flag

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Speaker 2: football teams by the fall of twenty twenty five, and

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Speaker 2: the Colts are providing up to ten thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: back with a whole lot more. Matt Taylor Voice to

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Speaker 2: the Colts. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. This is the Last Word.

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Speaker 2: Ninety three five, one oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: The fan can't get enough football.

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Speaker 2: You are in the right place.

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Speaker 1: This is the offseason radio home of the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: The Last Word with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor from

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Speaker 5: I mean, with first and foremost, if you think about

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Speaker 5: First of all, lou is a well respected DC in

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Speaker 5: from Mixing to Jamar to all those guys had extreme

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Speaker 5: then you know, we got probos at this point, player

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Speaker 4: But it works?

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was nice.

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Speaker 3: Talent to collectively be where the defense has been the

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Speaker 3: But that defense, I agree with Zaire Franklin, way too

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Chris Ballard listened to that SoundBite or

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Speaker 2: in Canton, Ohio with Clark Judge. Recently, Clark, we saw

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Speaker 2: and like on behalf of a lot of Adam Venteri fans.

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Speaker 2: I just kind of wanted to start there. And when

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Speaker 7: No, it doesn't. I've said this many many times before

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Speaker 6: What do you call it?

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Speaker 7: The guy who graduated last.

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Speaker 7: I'm a doctor, you know. Yeah, make sure it was

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Speaker 7: that said, the most qualified candidate in this class, in

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Speaker 7: and I think that's significant. The both of multiple All pros,

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Speaker 7: But he went two Super Bowls, the last minute kicks.

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Speaker 7: But what happens is that he made it to the

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Speaker 7: what happened. Someone said when there was some discussion, it

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Speaker 7: Took great guy over twenty years. He's the best punter

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Speaker 2: Clark, really quick, what do you think of Reggie Wayne

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: That's Clark Judge with us longtime NFL insider from the

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Speaker 3: Talk of Fame Network. You're listening to the Last Word

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Speaker 3: the offseason radio home of the Indianapolis Colts. I'm Matt

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Speaker 3: Taylor along with Jeffrey Gorman bringing things back to the Colts. Clark,

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Speaker 3: what do you make of the Colts potential now on defense?

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Speaker 3: Lou Ana Arumo is in defensive coordinator. How much belief

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Speaker 3: that's been together for a while now under a new

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Speaker 3: scheme and some new twists on things with Ana Rumo

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Speaker 3: now in charge.

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Speaker 7: Well, you tell me, I saw Louis an Rumo and

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Speaker 7: Cincinnati did a great job and that when they got

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Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl, it wasn't just Joe Burrow. It

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Speaker 7: is Louis an Aruma's defense. Terrific guy, a terrific player.

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Speaker 7: They had Jesse bass In as a safety. Once they

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Speaker 7: lost Jesse Bates, I didn't think they were up to

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Speaker 7: super Bowl caliber, and honestly, I would tell you that

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Speaker 7: this past year. I was a big Josh Allen Lamar

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Speaker 7: Jackson MVP guy. I mean one of those two, right,

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Speaker 7: But if you actually meant most valuable, not most valuable.

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Speaker 7: Joe Burrow. Yeah, he didn't have a defense, he didn't

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Speaker 7: have a offensive line, didn't have a running game. But

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Speaker 7: lou An Rumo doesn't need to answer to anybody me.

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Speaker 7: I think that was a great pickup for them because

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Speaker 7: he did more with less. At times. With Cincinnati, they

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Speaker 7: just had few key playmates. They lost too many guys.

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Speaker 7: I mean they had some, you know, Henderson's one of them.

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Speaker 7: But you've got to get the players. You get in

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Speaker 7: the players you get in the right players, he will

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Speaker 7: he will give you the defenses capable of going a

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Speaker 7: long way, and he demonstrated that now clearly he had

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Speaker 7: a superior quarterback and Joe Burrow is one of the

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Speaker 7: best in the game. So I think that's something I

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Speaker 7: don't worry too much about kind of worry about the

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Speaker 7: other side of the ball, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 7: and specifically that position, quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's pick up there. Last one for me.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Anthony Richardson right, good transition. Obviously had his

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Speaker 3: ups and downs last year. Talked openly at the end

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Speaker 3: of the season about being needing to be much more

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Speaker 3: intentional with everything that he does from here on out

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Speaker 3: starting this offseason. That's your belief in AR being able

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Speaker 3: to put it all together. And I guess better said

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Speaker 3: put up better individual results starting next season. From how

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Speaker 3: you cover the league on a national basis.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he certainly has talent. I mean, you have the

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Speaker 7: talent and there are times when you see him and

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Speaker 7: go there it is. I mean, that's what we're talking about. Now,

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Speaker 7: let's get going and Nei'll take a couple of steps backwards.

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Speaker 7: There's no consistency there. And yeah, it's a great running back.

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Speaker 7: So it was justin fields. You know, he's a great

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Speaker 7: running back too. You need a guy who can also

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Speaker 7: be a really good quarterback. He doesn't. That'd be great

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Speaker 7: And I haven't seen that consistency there. I see some

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Speaker 7: passes sometimes I go, what what certainly got to complete

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Speaker 7: a lot more than fifty percent of your passes and

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Speaker 7: in this game more like sixty sixty five, close to seventy.

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Speaker 7: But you have to make the plays and they're dialed up,

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Speaker 7: and I haven't seen that from him. I haven't seen

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Speaker 7: the accuracy that I want. I haven't seen the progression

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Speaker 7: that I want to see. Some vestiges of it, and

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Speaker 7: some instances where I think, you know, maybe that's the guy?

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Speaker 7: Is that the guy? And there's just such inconsistent consistency

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Speaker 7: that they're really is it any way you can come

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Speaker 7: to a conclusion. To me, this is a huge off

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Speaker 7: season for him. He has to demonstrate to them that

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Speaker 7: you don't need to look elsewhere. And can it happened,

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Speaker 7: Absolutely it can, but it probably has to happen. Now.

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Speaker 7: I've got back to San Diego Chargers in the early

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Speaker 7: two thousands when they had Drew Brees. After three years,

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Speaker 7: they essentially gave up on him, and so they drafted

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Speaker 7: Eli Manning and we know what happened there. Eli Manning

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Speaker 7: was traded for Philip Rivers. They wanted Philip Rivers. He

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Speaker 7: was going to be the starter, except that's when Drew

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Speaker 7: Brees became Drew Brees and they won a division title

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Speaker 7: and then went whoop, Now we've got two good quarterback

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Speaker 7: about the kids. Things worked out because the following season,

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Speaker 7: the last game against Denver, Breathe hurt his shoulder. You know,

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Speaker 7: we know what happened as a free agent goes to

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Speaker 7: New Orleans and Philip Rivers takes over. You don't have

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Speaker 7: that situation there. But Breathe in his third year demonstrated

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Speaker 7: to them he wasn't the guy they thought, and so

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Speaker 7: they drafted Philip Rivers. That's a cautionary tale for Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 7: Great talent, but he's got to put it all together.

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Speaker 7: If he doesn't, somebody's going to move on, and that

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Speaker 7: would be the administration. I think they go, we need

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Speaker 7: to look elsewhere because we're not getting anywhere here. We

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Speaker 7: haven't seen enough progress to keep this happy. And fortunately

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Speaker 7: for the Chargers, Breeze turned it around this fourth season.

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Speaker 7: Anton Richardson could but really depends on what happens in

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Speaker 7: this offseason is certainly what happens next year.

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Speaker 2: He loves quarterback play, He loves the Beatles, he loves

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Speaker 2: the who. He loves Todd Rungbren and we love you,

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Speaker 2: Clark Judge, appreciate you taking the time. Hey, real quick,

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Speaker 2: what sort of any asterisk does anything going up against Mahomes?

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Speaker 2: He kind of laid it done in this recent Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl and that guy's going to walk into Canton Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame one day, But boy kind of laid an

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Speaker 2: egg on that. Were you expecting that out of this

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Speaker 2: Philly d No?

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Speaker 7: I was not, because I had seen the Philadelphia defense

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Speaker 7: two years earlier and I thought, boy, they're going to

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Speaker 7: get after him and they couldn't. They didn't, And I

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Speaker 7: thought that defense was as good as this, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't coached by Vic Fangio. And there's an interesting

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Speaker 7: thing here. I talked to my wife about this afterwards.

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Speaker 7: A few years ago, I had podcast with Ira Hoffman

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Speaker 7: and we had Tony Dungee on. Tonny's been someone I've

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Speaker 7: known for many, many years, and so is Ira. And

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Speaker 7: I did ask him at that point, is there anything

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Speaker 7: you can do to stop my Homes? And he said sure?

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Speaker 7: And I was like what he had said, Yeah, you

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Speaker 7: rush only four guys. You don't blitzen. He will carry

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Speaker 7: you afar to get blitz him. But you rush four guys. Now,

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Speaker 7: the key is you have to have the right four guys,

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Speaker 7: and I'll take you back farther than that. I go

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Speaker 7: back to two thousand and seven and twenty eleven with

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Speaker 7: the Giants versus Tom Brady. After the twenty eleven game,

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Speaker 7: I went into camp the next year, I saw Ocumannor

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Speaker 7: and I said to him, you know what I gotta say,

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Speaker 7: you guys, you finally drove home a lesson to me.

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Speaker 7: He said, what's that? I said, A great pass rush

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Speaker 7: by four guys trump a great quarterback. He looked at me,

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Speaker 7: when where have you been? What's wrong with you? Where

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Speaker 7: have you been? And And that's what it came down to.

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Speaker 7: If you can pressure him with those four guys. As

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Speaker 7: the Giant pressured Brady with four and dropped everyone else

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Speaker 7: in the coverage, it confused as a quarter back. And

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Speaker 7: it should you watch the homes when people blitz him.

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Speaker 7: He does just dissect the secondary anyway. He just he

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Speaker 7: tears him apart. But Fanjio was confident enough that he

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Speaker 7: didn't deal up one blitz now one and that's the

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Speaker 7: team that had been blitzed. I think until like a

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Speaker 7: quarter of the time brilliant maneuver. He thought, my defensive

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Speaker 7: line can overpower your offensive line, and I'm gonna prove it.

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Speaker 2: And he did awesome stuff as usual. Clark Judge. Follow

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Speaker 2: him on Twitter x at Clark Judge t of You

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Speaker 2: can find him on the Talk of Fame network and

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Speaker 2: a great podcast Talk of Fame too. Hey, let's catch

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Speaker 2: up after the combine, after the draft in that area

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Speaker 2: and find out what's going on in the AFC South

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Speaker 2: and see if we're gonna find out how many quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: we have in that AFC South pretty quick, Clark, let's

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Speaker 2: do this down the road.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, let's catch up after my next Todd Runggren concert.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hopefully it's coming up with you.

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Speaker 7: What's that, April?

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Speaker 2: Whoa there it is Well.

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Speaker 7: Richfield, Connecticut. He's doing Birdbacker. It's gonna be a I'm

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Speaker 7: really I'm fired up for it. I am fired up

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Speaker 7: for it.

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Speaker 2: So Jeff your well, I know guys up there to

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Speaker 2: promote shows. So I'll get us the backstage passes. We'll say,

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Speaker 2: hey to Runger. That's a deal, all right. Cee you

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Speaker 2: in April, Clark Judge, thanks for the time. One of

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Speaker 2: my favorites right there. Yeah, we will be watching some

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Speaker 2: music together. Clark Judge, Hey, you want to see the

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna give you the Forum

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Speaker 2: Credit Union Question of the Week with showcase Casey Value.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking some Valentine's Day as well, and

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Speaker 2: one of the worst songs ever created by a Beatle ever,

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Speaker 2: and I'll give you a hint. Paul McCartney coming back

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Speaker 2: with the Last Word ninety three five one oh seven

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Speaker 2: five The Fan.

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Speaker 1: This is your weekly fix on Colts football, The Last

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Speaker 1: Word with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor from the Indiana

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Speaker 1: Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm all for the Beatles, guys, I'm all for them,

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Speaker 2: all right, not this one. And I know this isn't

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Speaker 2: a Beatles song. This is a McCartney song.

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Speaker 4: Awful, you know what that song? What's wrong with this?

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Speaker 2: It's just it just doesn't do it. I mean, be

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Speaker 2: be Bett, I mean I do like the horn section.

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Speaker 2: I'll give those guys present.

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Speaker 4: Little Chicago actions on rent.

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Speaker 2: Too much going on, McCartney with your silly love songs.

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Speaker 2: Get out of here. I understand. Though it's Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: If you don't like this song, Jeffery, you probably don't

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Speaker 3: like the classic Christmas hit The time is right, I

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Speaker 3: actually neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think I could hate a song worse than

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Speaker 2: he loves. But you're right, we're.

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Speaker 4: Just bagging on a beatle on him Friday.

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Speaker 2: I know. But I love McCartney, but he's had a

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Speaker 2: couple of clunkers. Yeah, I said it, all right. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna be right.

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Speaker 3: There is Valentine like Tom Hanks. Everybody thinks Tom Hanks

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Speaker 3: is immune to.

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Speaker 4: A bad movie.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's good.

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Speaker 3: Good, there's a lot of bad. I mean, people are

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Speaker 3: gonna be throwing tomatoes at the radio right now. But

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Speaker 3: Tom Hanks has made some duds. I'm just gonna say,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Plenty of time, Matt, go ahead and start start at

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Speaker 2: the top. Give us one bad Tom Hanks movie.

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Speaker 4: What was the one where he was stuck in the airport?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Forrest Gump, No passenger, No, I I was like

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Speaker 2: that one where he's in love with that's Tom Hanks.

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Speaker 2: That's that's locked in an airport. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: I just that's I just can't oversee that he's got

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Speaker 2: a guy on speed dial that he can get out

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Speaker 2: of the airport. So here it's timed out for the

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Speaker 2: Forum Credit Union Question of the Week, and it's a

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Speaker 2: good one. I mean it's quite simple. It's Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: May take Casey Valier, what is the worst and core

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Speaker 2: is Valentine's gift that you've ever given or received? I

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Speaker 2: want to start with showcase Casey value.

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Speaker 6: This one wasn't me, but it was a friend of mine,

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Speaker 6: and I'm gonna totally throw him under the bus. He

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Speaker 6: tried to be real creative and he had this is

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Speaker 6: like he's probably twelve or thirteen, and his parents had

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Speaker 6: just bought a new fridge, so we had a fridge

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Speaker 6: box and he put a whole bunch of those packing

646
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Speaker 6: peanuts in it, with a bunch of like different little trinkets,

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Speaker 6: and like, you know, I had a picture of him

648
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Speaker 6: and then you know, some candy and he gave it

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Speaker 6: to my neighbor and she just kind of was like

650
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Speaker 6: what do I do with this?

651
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Speaker 4: And he was like, you're my Valentine? Have you?

652
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Speaker 6: And she's like going through all this stuff with him

653
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Speaker 6: standing there like, oh thank you.

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Speaker 4: He's twelve.

655
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so like twelve thirteen were right before heigh school.

656
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 6: It was the most awkward and we were all sitting

657
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 6: there watching this unfold. It's like dust and sorry, man,

658
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 6: this one missed the mark big time.

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Speaker 4: Poor guy. Heart was absolutely right. Heart was absolutely there.

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Speaker 6: We still we still give him some some grief about

661
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Speaker 6: that twenty years later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, give us an update on the kid. Is

663
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: he scarved?

664
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Speaker 4: He's married, has.

665
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 6: A couple of kids, doing just fine for himself.

666
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: So perfect, mate, your turn. You've been married a while now,

667
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: mayte give me a bad Valentine's case? Yep, so you

668
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: may have given Sam.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, this is thank goodness. This is not a

670
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Speaker 4: Sam story.

671
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: But good as you guys know, I had a hair

672
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: band phase in high school. So I made the brilliant

673
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: idea back in the days of like Napster and LimeWire,

674
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: I made a hair band mix CD to a crush

675
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: I had in high school for Valentine's Day. So songs

676
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: like Love of a Lifetime by Firehouse Jeffrey, I Remember

677
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: You by skid Row Without You Motley Crue, you know,

678
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: Love Walks In by Van Halen, which I will still

679
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 3: argue that's a great song. But yeah, but you know what,

680
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: looking back on it, wow, But at the time it worked,

681
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: and Casey you can probably appreciate this too more than Jeffrey. Uh,

682
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: that's a lost art that this generation does not know. Absolutely.

683
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: The the mixed CD or mix tape was such a

684
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: powerful display of emotion, right you going to the trouble

685
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: to put a list of songs together that you think

686
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: describes the way you feel about someone. Our kids will

687
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: not know what that's like, and you have to you

688
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: have to put the special words on that with the sharpie.

689
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: Don't forget because you're writing it at the top right,

690
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: and well, what they're gonna get. I mean, that's a

691
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 3: good one man, that's not corny, and that's not the

692
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: worst Valentine's Day gift of all time.

693
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: Tip of the hat to you. You're like doctor Chicago,

694
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: like a as a lover for half the year.

695
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like Fabio handing that over to her Locker.

696
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I got nothing. I've been a lone

697
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: wolf for a lot of years. So, I mean, it's

698
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: a mad made sort of holiday. And I think the

699
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: worst thing I ever sad was like just a meme.

700
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: You know, it was like Happy Valentine's Day. It was

701
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: like very corny. I mean nothing, I'm terrible when it

702
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: comes to that. Hey, the fan forum section you can

703
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: go to colts dot com interact with other fans online,

704
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: post a topic, participate in various discussions regarding your Colt's

705
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: forum credit union helping members live their financial dreams. Guys,

706
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: let's get it going. It is Friday, so let's get

707
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: fired up.

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00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 7: All right?

709
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 5: Good?

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00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Great, wonderful that go? Hey see value, let's hear it.

711
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: It is Friday night. It's about eight degrees I heard

712
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis right now. So what's got you fired up?

713
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 4: Like you would know?

714
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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right am?

716
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 6: I fired up? And I hate to be critical. Super

717
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: Bowl parade is over? Why did they wait so long?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 4: I like the fact they wait until Friday.

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Speaker 6: I'm just is this normal practice lately? Like I feel

721
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Speaker 6: like most of the time, it's like, all right, we're

722
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Speaker 6: gonna have the parade on a Wednesday. You know, the

723
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 6: Super Bowl's done, you have your obligations the day after,

724
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Speaker 6: and then you.

725
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Speaker 4: Have the parade.

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Speaker 6: If I was a fan of Philadelphia, I would love

727
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 6: it being on a Friday. This might as well. Take

728
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Speaker 6: the day off off of work, go into the weekend.

729
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Speaker 4: Absolutely beats a heat of a Tuesday or Wednesday. I

730
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Speaker 4: just right in the middle of the week. That's where

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Speaker 4: I'm confused.

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Speaker 2: Is this normal.

733
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: President's Day is Monday? I think it's genius. Okay, more

734
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: teams are gonna see more teams.

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00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: Doing mar Absolutely, Maddiochi, what's got you fired up?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm right now in defense of the Eagles parade route,

737
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: I'm fired up. I got some hoops tonight, right, you

738
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: got IU and U c l A. I'm fired up

739
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: to try to put my kids to bed tonight. I'm

740
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: it's a competition for me to see how well bedtime

741
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: goos tonight after them being jacked up on Valentine's Day.

742
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: Candy that's all day long.

743
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: Also, I'm fired up that there the Bluff Road is

744
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: getting some potholes filled this weekend.

745
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: I feel like it was like driving on Mars. Jeffrey.

746
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: I already got one flat tire this this winter. I

747
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: don't need another one. So fired up about Taylor. The

748
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: government love filling potholes.

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Speaker 2: Bluff Road out in the sticks, I imagine. I don't

750
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: think I've ever been on Bluff Road, but boy's just

751
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: been a fun one. I'm just gonna leave with this

752
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: my Valentines and I will be going to an in

753
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: and out Burger later. Those are only available on the

754
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: far on the West coast. As you know, I am

755
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: in parts unknown. I'll leave it at that. Where I

756
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: am at right now, in and out Burger is available.

757
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: So guys, I am saying, audios, have a great weekend.

758
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to stuff my face with the double double

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Speaker 2: casey value, Matt Taylor. I have Jeffrey Gorman coming up

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Speaker 2: next PSP and Radio