WEBVTT - 040823 The Donald Trump Indictment (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job. He is rams this job, I am q Ward.

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<v Speaker 1>You are tuned in to PA Civic Cipher. A whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot to stick around for. Per usual, of course, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about the indictment of the former president

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States. We didn't want to talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to, so we will. There's no getting

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<v Speaker 1>away from it. That just kind of it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to talk about, but it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>is at the same time, because that's what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>this country, and so it'd be hard to al like

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't happen, right, right, So the former president of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, no matter what his name is. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's newsworthy exactly, and so we're gonna do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then for the second part of the show, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>illuminate some double standards that we have seen. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see double standards all the time, but some double standards

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<v Speaker 1>that are in some popular stories that we either haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to that we've wanted to touch on recently or

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<v Speaker 1>that have come up this week. And so there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that, including the treatment of the former president.

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<v Speaker 1>You can imagine if that was Obama might have played

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<v Speaker 1>out slightly differently. But you know, we'll get in there.

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<v Speaker 1>The news might be covering them a little differently too.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get there. And we're also going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Queen Khalifa. For those of you in California or

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise familiar with the magical place called California, you may

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<v Speaker 1>not know that California was named after a black woman.

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<v Speaker 1>When I found that out, I thought that was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't anything that is not well documented. You

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<v Speaker 1>can research it yourself. It's just not common knowledge. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to share that with you in our

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<v Speaker 1>way black history fact, as well as some other really

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<v Speaker 1>Victor Glover is set to become the first black man

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<v Speaker 1>But man, what an awesome thing to be known for

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<v Speaker 1>and to see happen.

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<v Speaker 2>a first steal about the same thing, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>better late than never.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know we've been to the Moon too, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, I'll read A new space exploration Artemis the

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<v Speaker 1>second has been announced by NASA and the Canadian Space Agency.

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<v Speaker 1>It will include Commander Read Wiseman, pilot Victor Glover, Mission

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<v Speaker 1>Specialist one Christina Hammock coach sorry, Coke, that's it, and

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<v Speaker 1>mission specialists too, Jeremy Hansen, and a ten day flight test.

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<v Speaker 1>They will prove that humans can live in space and

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<v Speaker 1>validate the Orion spacecraft's life support systems. The mission also

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<v Speaker 1>establishes a historic precedent in space, as Lever will become

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<v Speaker 1>the first black man on a lunar mission. Director Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>Whitch NASA. Sorry, Director Vanessa Whitch of NASA said, for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in more than fifty years, these individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>the artemist the second crew will be the first humans

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<v Speaker 1>to fly to the vicinity of the Moon. Among the

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<v Speaker 1>crew are the first woman and the first person of color,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first Canadian on a lunar mission, and all

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<v Speaker 1>four astronauts will represent the best of humanity as they

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<v Speaker 1>explore the benefit for all. Now, obviously the best person

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<v Speaker 1>or the first person of color is significant for all

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<v Speaker 1>people of color, but I would like to once against

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<v Speaker 1>a versus black person that is special. Again, Victor Glover, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 1>and you made a solved problem. Now, how much of

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<v Speaker 1>this Donald Trump stuff did you see?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's an interesting question because we don't voluntarily consume

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<v Speaker 2>him right around these parts. So I've seen as much

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<v Speaker 2>as any casual person has seen. I haven't dug in,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't tuned in, I haven't been in search of

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's the type of thing that is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the news, you know, it's newsworthy. It's again you.

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<v Speaker 2>For most of my life, regardless of your stance, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of the way that you voted, regardless of your politics,

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<v Speaker 2>you respected the person in the position. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And it changed not just how people like me kind

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<v Speaker 2>of no longer respected the person in the position, but

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<v Speaker 2>polarized the country in a way that seems irreparable at

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<v Speaker 2>this point as we watch, you know, our policymakers snowboard

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<v Speaker 2>down a heel of overt racism and bigotry, and if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a time if there's a time machine available to

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<v Speaker 2>help them get to the bottom of racism slope faster,

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, they would be in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you talk about the very obvious differences in the

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<v Speaker 2>way this story is being covered, differences in the way

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<v Speaker 2>he's being treated and somehow made out to be a martyr.

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<v Speaker 2>It's laughable, except it's not like we'd laughed Once upon

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<v Speaker 2>a time. We'd laugh at fringe conspiracy theorists that would

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<v Speaker 2>push stuff in front of us that the collective thought

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<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous, so we could laugh, you know. But I

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<v Speaker 2>watch how some of his cohorts and colleagues are operating

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<v Speaker 2>in this space now, even people who he's been flagrant

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<v Speaker 2>and blatantly disrespectful to, but they know it's in their

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<v Speaker 2>best political interest to steal, parrot his policy, parent his

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<v Speaker 2>way of thinking, and pretend that they're supporter of his,

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<v Speaker 2>Like people who he's talked bad about their wives and them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're still like out there, you know, in support

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<v Speaker 2>of this guy who they know can help, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put some gasoline on their political fire. They're just they're

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<v Speaker 2>pushing for things that once upon a time we would

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<v Speaker 2>have said, that's so ridiculous, there's no way that can

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<v Speaker 2>actually happen, except now we have so many examples that

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<v Speaker 2>not only could it, but it would Like when he

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<v Speaker 2>announced his candidacy, I thought it was ridiculous, so I laughed,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no way he can be the Oh so

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<v Speaker 2>here we are, and you brought up something. We were

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<v Speaker 2>discussing this topic, and I'd love to hear your voice

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<v Speaker 2>articulate this. How on earth would this be covered and

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<v Speaker 2>how on earth would they feel if the former president

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<v Speaker 2>that had just been indicted of no matter what the

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<v Speaker 2>crime was, it could be jaywalking, was Barak Hussein Obama?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? Okay, I'm glad that you mentioned that,

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<v Speaker 1>because I definitely want to talk about that. But before

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<v Speaker 1>I get there, you brought something up that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on. You talked about kind of respecting the office,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get there. When I was first able to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>I voted for I believe it was John carry sound right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Democratic camp George lost to George Bush. Yeah, George

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<v Speaker 1>Bush the second ended up winning and George w w

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<v Speaker 1>exactly and he won again, So he was a two

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<v Speaker 1>term president. So when I graduated high school, all the

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<v Speaker 1>way until Obama came along, that was what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a fan of George W. Bush. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he was a particularly I can't pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>have been as involved in politics or policies or understanding

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on as he was. But I recognized that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nine to eleven, he was a president, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that sort of stuff. Right. I thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>was an embarrassment the way that he spoke. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really realized that he I I never saw anything presidential

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<v Speaker 1>about him. But one thing I will say to your

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<v Speaker 1>point is that when he came to Arizona, right, he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't such an embarrassment that I was not excited that

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<v Speaker 1>he was coming to the city. Had we met him,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have shook his hand exactly, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>have gave him the respect that the office warranted. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have taken a picture with him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did. We disagree on most everything, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it was time to go to war, you did

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<v Speaker 1>your job, you know, uh. And beyond that, you're the president, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you don't speak the way I would have spoken.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we've had a couple of cringe moments

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, but for the most part, you seem

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<v Speaker 1>like a decent man, and I hope that before your

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<v Speaker 1>life is over, you come to see things a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more like people like me, so that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a universal view.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think we both understood, and I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us understand. You don't have to think like

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<v Speaker 2>me to be a decent man. There, Yeah, perfect, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So, yeah, I would love if

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<v Speaker 2>you thought more like me, because you were in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind back then he was so far extremely the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh my good, no you saying that he was not.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm getting at, because, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have shook his hand. I would have snapped

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of him. Another person, a name that I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you our listeners would know, is McCain, John McCain. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>remember John McCain is from Arizona. That's where I'm from, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So John McCain was another person to your point, Q,

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<v Speaker 1>who was on the whole other side of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 1>We just did not have similar politics at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way, there's no way anybody could convince me, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>that that wasn't a decent man. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I have an example that would check that box for

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<v Speaker 1>just about it, and if I have a few as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But the one that comes to mind is when he

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<v Speaker 1>conceded defeat to Obama, he made it a point to

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<v Speaker 1>say that this night, this historic night, must be particularly

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<v Speaker 1>special for the African American people in this country. The

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<v Speaker 1>way that he said it in his words, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of I don't know exactly what he said,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was effectually what he was a semantic don't

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<v Speaker 1>matter right. The way that he said that, let me

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<v Speaker 1>know that's a decent man, right, because obviously the election

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't about race. Later on there was as America. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sure for some people it was, but the election in

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<v Speaker 1>theory is about politics, right. But a great example of

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<v Speaker 1>what I meant when I said the election wasn't about

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<v Speaker 1>racist four years later Obama ran against His name is

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<v Speaker 1>Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was recorded at a Republican meeting somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but his voice was recorded and he said something like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's like fifty three percent of the country

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<v Speaker 1>that's never going to vote for us because they're this, that,

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<v Speaker 1>and third, and they're just never going to vote over here,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't worry about them. That's never going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>right And the way he was describing those of us

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<v Speaker 1>who would never vote for him, it was very dismissive.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, in hindsight, it wasn't that bad, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, it felt very dismissive. And I tweeted something.

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<v Speaker 1>This was back when we still had Twitter. Right by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, if you haven't listened to a couple of episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>we deleted our twitters because we're not the one, nor

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<v Speaker 1>are we the two. Anyway, I tweeted something at the

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<v Speaker 1>time and I said, you know what, I'm not voting

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<v Speaker 1>for Obama because he's black. I'm voting for Obama because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm black. And the weight of that message translated, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that got retweeted a ton of times. There

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<v Speaker 1>was like all these news outlets tweeting and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and folks were reaching out. It was really exciting because

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<v Speaker 1>way back when, you know, I didn't have a nationally

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<v Speaker 1>syndicated show where thoughts like that are just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>roll off the tongue. But that was kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling I had when McCain was running. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>say it wasn't race based per se, a more politics based. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was exciting that Obama was black, but there's been

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<v Speaker 1>black people who run for president. I would never vote

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<v Speaker 1>for them. If Clarence Thomas decided that he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Supreme Court justice anymore and wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>run for president, there's absolutely no way in the world

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<v Speaker 1>I would ever vote for that man. All skin folk

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<v Speaker 1>and kidne is something that we say over here now,

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<v Speaker 1>the man of the hour. So you know, we realized

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<v Speaker 1>that you're probably listening to this, and it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>few days since this stuff has been announced. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>a weekly show, so we only get to get in

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<v Speaker 1>your ear once a week. So we're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. Prior to the indictment, there was so

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<v Speaker 1>here's a message, or rather an article from Yahoo News,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a poll that showed that President Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>slightly ahead of Ronda Santis. Right after the indictment charge

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<v Speaker 1>was brought forth, Trump's numbers were boosted as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of that, So it really like galvanized and fired up

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<v Speaker 1>his base. I suspect largely because of what you said, Q,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how there are different media outlets covering it differently. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>All media outlets are covering it differently like this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>strange because it's not even about left or right.

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<v Speaker 2>All media outlets are covering this differently than they would

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<v Speaker 2>really any other president, but very very specifically the one

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<v Speaker 2>who everyone who hears my voice knows I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about Fox. No, no, no, the former president. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Every new outlet would be covering the indictment of Barack

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<v Speaker 2>Obama different than they are the indictment an arrest of

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>People were.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of their mind offended when President Obama wore a

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<v Speaker 2>suit that wasn't black and blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Like t like really offended, like angry, it's not presidential.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny, because so.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you ever imagine if he had forty three indictments

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four forgive me, but again the semantics, if he

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<v Speaker 2>had two, if he had one, if he jaywalk and

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<v Speaker 2>the police pulled him over, it'd be national news and

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be spoken about in a different tone than.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. They would say, I know what you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because they would say it's not presidential right, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was the thing that they always brought for us, especially

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<v Speaker 1>right leaning news outlets. They brought that for when describing

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<v Speaker 1>Obama's behavior or his policy, whatever however he dealt with people. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>he would do a fist jab as he was fist

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<v Speaker 1>bump as he was campaigning. You know, he just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of does everybody wanted to fist bump Obama. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News report was like is it a fist bump

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<v Speaker 1>or a terrorist fist jab? Like how they took it

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<v Speaker 1>went all the way to the extreme to try to

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<v Speaker 1>make that connection. You know that somehow Obama was a

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist and bad for the country. And you got to

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<v Speaker 1>remember the climate of the country at the time. We're

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of reeling from nine to eleven. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of terrorism talk is still very much in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. So yeah, the coverage night and day difference,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>speaks to the double standard in this country. Right. But

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<v Speaker 1>back to this arrangement. So one of the other things

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<v Speaker 1>that happened is the day of his arrest. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course he got to mosey and there late. He

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be there at like eleven am. He

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<v Speaker 1>got there after one, and we know how that's different

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<v Speaker 1>over here, right, But you know he's not us, so

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<v Speaker 1>he gets to walk in. Late Marjorie Taylor Green went

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<v Speaker 1>out there and she spoke to you know, a crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had a bullhorn and there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people protesting with whistles. I need to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the names of the guys that were out there protesting

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<v Speaker 1>with the whistles, and they were drowning out her speeches.

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<v Speaker 1>Great job, Yeah, it was amazing. They really deserve a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out on the show. But I remember seeing the video.

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<v Speaker 1>I think was that Sean King posted it several people. Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, a maneuver if I ever seen one. Right, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>her speech got drowned out. But prior to her speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>she gave an interview inside of like an suv or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and she compared Trump's arrest to She compared them to

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<v Speaker 1>like Nelson Mandela and to Jesus, you see did you

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<v Speaker 1>see that? I read that. I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>The sound of her voice makes, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>makes it uncomfortable. So I don't even I don't deal

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<v Speaker 2>in that space because I often have to wonder these

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<v Speaker 2>people are either the most ignorant people in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of people, and I say even more so than those

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<v Speaker 2>who convinced themselves that we were proper property, because I

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<v Speaker 2>really think those people believed, as wrong as they were,

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<v Speaker 2>that we were actually beneath them. I think they were

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<v Speaker 2>indocumented in a way where they actually thought it was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>As we've discussed before, these people had their children at

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<v Speaker 2>lynchings because even those quote unquote decent among them thought

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<v Speaker 2>that that was normal. We're supposed to be a more

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<v Speaker 2>progressed people now, are more enlightened people now. So our

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<v Speaker 2>current political landscape, with our extreme right conservatives, our extreme

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<v Speaker 2>Maga conservatives, our extreme Trump conservatives, they're either the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most grossly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say ignorant, because ignorant might make

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<v Speaker 2>you think I just mean misinformed. I mean stupid, like

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<v Speaker 2>either that's not proper. I mean like dumb. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean like intelligent people that don't have the information.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean like the one thing that happens in

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<v Speaker 1>a good number of instances is that they're dumb people

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<v Speaker 1>who have They are very articulate, and they articulate the

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<v Speaker 1>dumb stuff in such a way that other dumb people

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<v Speaker 1>perceive it as being intelligent. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about those people though, because those people

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<v Speaker 2>are intelligent enough to be articulate to make hate and

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<v Speaker 2>divisiveness and racism and bigotry sound okay because they're articulated properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard her speech. It doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 1>she's learning right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying this to be mean, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you're either that or you're despicably evil, because almost

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<v Speaker 2>everything she says is buried and drenched and drowned in

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<v Speaker 2>so much hate and so much just mean, callous, bigoted,

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<v Speaker 2>racist crap.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are tens of millions of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout to the people that drowned her out, because there

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<v Speaker 2>as many people as showed up to drown her out

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<v Speaker 2>that will talk loud as as loud as that, but

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<v Speaker 2>with the same message that she's delivering. And once upon

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<v Speaker 2>a time, I think the entire country would have thought

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<v Speaker 2>that we were beyond that. Yeah, you know, even those

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<v Speaker 2>who paired the same politics who cringe at the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of being labeled racist because they do understand that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. I don't think people like her do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they feel that way. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>wear the title of racist proudly. I think they platform

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<v Speaker 2>on it. I think they campaigned on it intentionally. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a different thing, man. It is a very very

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you guys could see my face. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a very very discouraging thing that this is the state

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<v Speaker 2>of our union, so speaking. Which so what happened that day.

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<v Speaker 1>After she got chased out of their bibles loud whistles,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump went in pled not guilty, sorry, and he

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<v Speaker 1>flew back to Florida, and he talked bad about everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and the mom right, well, he talked bad about the

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<v Speaker 1>DA of course, but then he talked about the judge

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<v Speaker 1>and the judge's wife and the judge's daughter. Who gets

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<v Speaker 1>to do that exactly? And that's what I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Obama do something like that exactly. So it really does

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<v Speaker 1>go to show that there is a sort of double

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<v Speaker 1>standard there. Hopefully there will be a gag order because

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is super duper off the chain. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>as if that weren't enough, he jumps on his uh

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<v Speaker 1>boring social media site and then he tweets that he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to defund the federal police. This part comes from

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<v Speaker 1>NBC News. Trump and a handful of allies and the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican led House favor cutting money for the Justice Department

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<v Speaker 1>and FBI ahead of September thirtieth deadline to defund the government.

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<v Speaker 1>So or sorry, the deadline to fund the government. So

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<v Speaker 1>he wants his ally, which arn enough to actually make

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<v Speaker 1>this happen. So don't worry. But well I'm worried because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true. Well, no, I did

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<v Speaker 1>a little research. However, this is and I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get this out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a sign that Ramses and I and people

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<v Speaker 2>like us, we're too kind, because I remember us having

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<v Speaker 2>conversations about defund the police and kind of grimacing a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, like, man, I wish we would I wish

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<v Speaker 2>we were saying I wish we were delivering this message

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<v Speaker 2>differently so that it could be received. And they're showing

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<v Speaker 2>us they'll receive anything as long as they're the ones

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<v Speaker 2>saying it. If it's coming from us, it does not

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<v Speaker 2>matter how articulate it. It's crap. They will repurpose the

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<v Speaker 2>same message. They don't even reword it, and they will

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<v Speaker 2>they will receive it and screaming loudly like we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>saying the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>A year ago. It is disgusting, it's wild to see

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<v Speaker 1>that happen. But you're not wrong, you're absolutely right. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is still a developing story as we record this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll keep following it and we'll let you know

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<v Speaker 1>if it's worth talking about, right,