1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with you for the next I don't know, 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: twenty six minutes or so. Hope everyone had a great weekend. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: We're coming off a big weekend of NCAA tournament play, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: and we're also coming off an exciting weekend in baseball 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: in terms of the anticipation building for the twenty twenty 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: six season. And we also had some news over the 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: weekend and we're going to get through that as well. 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: The biggest news, of course, was Chris Sanchez, Christopher Sanchez, 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: I should say, signing with the Philadelphia Affilies. Whether it's 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: an extension or a contract. The team can't seem to 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: figure out what they call it themselves, but it's something, 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: and it guarantees him six years, including this one through 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and thirty two, actually seven years, I believe, 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: and he was already under control for five years, so 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: he gets two more guaranteed. What happened was they picked 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: up the two club options on this deal and then 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: they added two guaranteed years at thirty million per year, 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: so we go from five guarantee to seven. And you 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: might ask, okay, why did the Phillies do this. That's 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: my question. Why did the Phillies do this. They had 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: the guy under a good deal. Now, obviously, when you 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: get the two additional years at thirty million per year, 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: those will be below market. Assuming Christopher Sanchez remains a 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: really good picture a reasonably safe assumption, but you're also 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: assuming health and with a picture, you can never do that. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: So it seems to me the Phillies were trying to 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: get ahead of themselves a little bit, get ahead of 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the curve with regard to future salaries for a guy 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: who is one of the top five pitchers in the game. Again, though, 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: it's not something that they needed to do, and you 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: could take the perspective that the agent for Christopher Sanchez, 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Gen Monto, did and saying, hey, this is great and 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the team didn't have to do this. It shows ownership's commitment. 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: That's one perspective. But if you're managing your payroll as 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: efficiently as possible, I'm not sure this was the best plan. Now, 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: under the previous deal, including his club option, Sanchez would 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: have earned forty seven million through two thousand and thirty, 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: so this obviously gets him sixty more million dollars. You 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: can see why he wanted to do that. And if 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: you're a starting pitcher, even though the market for those 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: players is better than it is for any other position, 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: because of the risk of injury, you still want as 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: much guaranteed money as possible. So I can see Sanchez's 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: logic for sure. Even though while this deal helps making 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: the previous deal look better than it was, the previous 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: deal will was not very good. He still is potentially 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: potentially walking away from a certain amount of money that 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: he could have gotten had he not taken this down 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: the line, and certainly there was risks for him as well. 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: But the Filly is the good news for them as 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: they go forward. Here is their rotation is pretty much set. 53 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: So you have Sanchez now through twenty thirty two, potentially 54 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: thirty three. I believe there's a conditional option in here 55 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: as well, and you have his zeus Lozardo. They just 56 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: signed him to an extension five years, one hundred and 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: thirty five million. He is a pitcher who has had 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: injury problems, and that too was a risky deal. But 59 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: given the nature of starting pitching, given that the price 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: always rises, you can understand what the Phillies are thinking here. 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Zach Wheeler under contract through twenty twenty seven. He, of 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: course is coming off an injury, expected back sometime early 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: in the season. One of the best pitchers in baseball. 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: You want that guy. And then Aaron Nola, another Phillies 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: pitcher under a long term deal through two thousand and thirty. 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: They've already been questions raised about that contract. And then 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Painter, the prospect under club control through two thousand 68 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: and thirty one. So from all of these different perspectives, 69 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: the security aspect of it, the Phillies are in good shape. 70 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: The question is, and the element of the team's face 71 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: is starting pitchers are risky. They're risky if you don't 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: sign them because the price goes up and they're harder 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: to find, and they're risky if you do signed them, 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: because of course there is the threat of injury that 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: is always lurking. As much as we hate to talk 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: about it, hate to admit it, it is the reality 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: of the sport. So Christopher Sanchez locked up with the 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Phillies beyond even where he was locked up before, now 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: under control for seven years instead of five elsewhere in 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: the sport. And I wrote about this with my colleague 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: Will Salmon at the Athletic On Sunday, Connor Griffin, the 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: great prospect from the Pittsburgh Pirates, optioned to the minor leagues. Now, 83 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: if you remember, Connor Griffin started this spring training the 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: Greape Rout League play really hot, a couple home runs early, 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: and it looked like, wow, this kid was going to 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: force his way onto the team. He's only nineteen years old, 87 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: turning twenty in April, but he is considered one of 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: the top prospects in this sport in quite some time. 89 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: And as we wrote the projection models on him, the 90 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: teams have and they all have these different models that 91 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: they play around with and try to figure out which 92 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: players have the most value, the most surtplus value relative 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: to what they're making. This guy is off the charts. He, 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: according to one team, is the player with the most 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: surplus value in baseball the position player and Paul Skeens, 96 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: his Pirates teammate, is the picture with the most surplus 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: value in baseball. Now, the problem is that Connor Griffin 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: did not have a great spring, and he's only played 99 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: one professional season. He doesn't even have one hundred played 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: appearances above a ball. So, as we wrote, Pirates certainly 101 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: can make a case that, yeah, he needs some time 102 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: at TRIPLEA before we call him up and make him 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: our everyday shortstop. You want players to develop as completely 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: as possible. The problem with that is the problem they 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: ran into with Skeens, and they kept Keens in the 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: minor leagues for six weeks at the start of twenty 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: twenty four for different reasons. He was a pitcher and 108 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: they wanted him to learn certain things and refine certain things. 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I should say as well what happened. What happened was 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: the Pirates did not get the extra year of service 111 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: time because Skeens won Rookie of the Year and under 112 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: the CVA, he gets a full year of service even 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: though he didn't complete a full year of service by 114 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: winning that award. And the other aspect is the Pirates, 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: by not including him on their roster from opening day 116 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: or at least the early part of the season, there 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: is a certain leeway time in there. They didn't get 118 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the draft pick that is available to them in all 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: teams through the Prospect Promotion Incentive Program. So there was 120 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: a double amp excuse me, a double whammy that they suffered. 121 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: And by keeping Griffin down unless they promote him by 122 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: April ninth, that's the date that he has to be 123 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: in the big leagues by, they're risking again losing the 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: possibility of getting that draft pick. They might contend, Hey, okay, 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: the draft pick is valuable, but we believe that development 126 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: time is more valuable, and that's why we're doing this 127 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: fair argument. But there's another element as well, and that 128 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: other element is the possibility of a contract extension. The 129 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: Pirates have been talking to Griffin about an extension, as 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: we reported that others have as well. They've offered him 131 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: more than one hundred million. Now he hasn't signed the extension, 132 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and my suspicion is that if he had signed the extension, 133 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: he'd probably be in the big league's opening day. That's 134 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of how these things work. It's what teams use 135 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: as leverage. But at the same time, for anyone who 136 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: might want to cry service time manipulation here, as I 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: just laid out, it's not in the Pirate's interest to 138 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: keep him down for a long time for all those 139 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: draft pick reasons and everything else, and it's also not 140 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: in their interest more importantly, from the standpoint of their 141 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: team's performance. Here's a guy who, if he is ready 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: and as ready as people think he ultimately will be, 143 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: is going to be a difference maker. And this is 144 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: a team that you remember this offseason, invested more money 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: than they have in the past, were more aggressive than 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: they have in the past. There is an urgency there 147 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: to win. So I don't know how this is going 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: to resolve, but it's going to resolve at some point, 149 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: and ultimately Connor Griffin is going to be in the 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: major leagues. Some other demotions of note, there were quite 151 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: a few that were actually notable. Dylan Cruz the Nationals. 152 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Here's a guy number two pick of the twenty twenty 153 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: three draft behind Skens, had a bad spring, hasn't really 154 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: taken off at the major league level yet, but still 155 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: you would think by now twenty twenty six he'd be 156 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: ready to go. Not yet. Bryce Eldridge, first baseman for 157 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Giants. This guy is a literal giant. 158 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: He is stuck behind Ralphael Devers. Now they could bring 159 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: him up, use him as a DH and I expect 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: that they will do that at some point, alternate the 161 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: two of them. Eldridge endeavors, but while he's improved his defense. 162 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: He's still striking out a lot. The Giants felt, okay, 163 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: he needs more seasoning two the Dodgers heis on. Kim 164 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: lost out to Alex Freeland in the battle for kind 165 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: of a utility job with the LA Dodgers second base. 166 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: It's a platoon role with Miguel Rojas, so Kim will 167 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: stay in the minor leagues. Christian Campbell last year's prospect 168 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: flavor of the month at this time, a guy who 169 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: did sign the extension that we're talking about with Connor 170 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: Griffin after opening Day so the Red Sox could retain 171 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: their rights to a PPI pick. Well, what happened with 172 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: Christian Campbell started off okay, then faded, sent to the miners, 173 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: doesn't even make the Red Sox opening day roster. They're 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 1: now looking at him as an outfielder. Their outfield obviously 175 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: is crowded. And finally, Jason Dominguez with the Yankees. Jason 176 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: Dominguez had a good spring. Jason Dimingez should be in 177 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: the major leagues. Problem is there's no playing time for 178 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: him in the major leagues. It's similar to Campbell, except 179 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Dominguez is further along in his development. A better prospect 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: right now they've got Grisham, They've got Judge, of course, 181 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: and they've got Bellinger. They've got John Carlos Stanton as 182 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: their DH. No room for Jason Dominguez, no room for 183 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: Spencer Jones. These things usually have a way of working 184 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: themselves out. We've seen John Carlos Stanton get hurt over 185 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: the years quite a bit, and other players, of course, 186 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: could be susceptible to injury as well. So a lot 187 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: of notable demotions and one notable injury as well. I 188 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: am kind of high on the Marlins right now. I 189 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: think they're ready to take another step forward. They won 190 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: seventy nine games last year. But Kyle Stowers is a 191 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: big part of what they do, and he has started 192 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: the year on the IL with a straight and hamstring. 193 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: That outfield one's healthy, it's pretty interesting. It's Owen Casey, 194 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: the prospect they acquired from the Cubs for Edward Cabrera. 195 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: It's the center fielder. His name is eluding me right now. Oh, 196 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: Jacob Marci of course should not be eluding me. The 197 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: guy's a rising star in the game, and of course 198 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, it's going to be Kyle Stowers. So 199 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: I still like the Marlins. This is not a long 200 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: term thing. It does not seem but certainly not great 201 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: to lose Kyle Stowers to start the season, a season 202 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: in which you have the pitching and you have the 203 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: team to maybe make a little bit of a run, 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: maybe be a wild card contender. All right, that is 205 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: it for the first segment. We will be back with 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: the inside dish and an interesting story right after this. 207 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Hey, it might be time to have a heart to 208 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 2: heart with your phone and be like, I love you, 209 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: but you cost too much. 210 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not paying this much anymore. That's it. 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The Inside Dish is about maybe a 229 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: story I've written, a trend in the game, some other 230 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: thing that I've pulled out of thin air. This week 231 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: it is about a story I've written, a story I 232 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: published today about Max Scherzer, and it's a story I've 233 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: been waiting to write for almost six months. The story 234 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: is about how that's crazy even to say this, How 235 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: Max Scherzer played the piano to resolve his long thumb problem, 236 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: not long thumb problem, problem that took place over a 237 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: long period of time, two years, and by playing the 238 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: piano for whatever reason, medically I don't know the answer, 239 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: Max doesn't know the answer, but for whatever reason, it 240 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: strengthened his hand, strengthened his fingers, improved his dexterity, and 241 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: suddenly his thumbs started feeling better. That's what the story 242 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: is about and I encourage you to read it. It's 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. It speaks to Max's level of commitment 244 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: to getting back to being who he is as a pitcher. 245 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: And we saw that at the end of last season 246 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: in the postseason when he was really brilliant for the 247 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. He came on, and he came on 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: in part because he started playing on the piano about 249 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: the All Star break, teaching his kids, and suddenly he 250 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: felt better. He didn't pitch consistently right away, and it 251 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: took some time still, but he was something close to 252 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: the Max Scherzer we all know in that postseason, in 253 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: that October run, that magical run by the Blue Jays. 254 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: So the story behind the story and this is what 255 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: is I don't know, it's interesting to me. I hope 256 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: it's interesting to you guys. This goes back to the 257 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Division Series. Max Scherzer was not on the Blue Jays roster. 258 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: If you remember, he hadn't pitched that well down the stretch. 259 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: They went with some lefties, left hnd and Chris Bassett 260 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: off the roster for the Division Series, and Max and 261 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: I was talking in the dugout at Yankee Stadium one 262 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: day before game, and he explained what had happened, but 263 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: he said, I don't want you to write this yet. 264 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: I want it to be part of a larger story 265 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: with something else regarding Grips. And I'm like, okay, whatever, 266 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: this is really interesting. I want to write it. But 267 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm in your mercy here. I'll do whatever you want. 268 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: So he's like, okay, we're good. Postseason progresses pitches in 269 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: the ALCS, has that memorable start in Seattle when he 270 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: barked at manager John Schneider on the mound, has the 271 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: two starts at the World Series that were good. And 272 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: during the World Series, I said to Max, I said, hey, man, 273 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: if you win the World Series, if the Blue Jays 274 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: win the World Series, you've got to let me write 275 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: the story. Come on, it would be a great story. 276 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, it would have been a great story. But 277 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: what happened, and he agreed, by the way, he agreed 278 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: to let me do that. But what happened. What happened, 279 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: of course, is that the Blue Jays did not win 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the World Series. So the story gets put off again. 281 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Then the off season comes and in early November, shortly 282 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: after free agent market opened, I said to Max again, hey, 283 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: what about it? Why can't we write it now, or 284 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: why can't I write it now? Why can't we talk 285 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: about it and maybe go forward with this? Because I thought, 286 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: and I hope you guys agree, it was a really 287 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: fun and interesting story, and Max said, no. I talked 288 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: to my agent, Scott Boris. He's not really into it. 289 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to bring up the thumb in the 290 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: middle of free agency. Even though it was resolved. I 291 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: got it. And it's not just Boris as an agent 292 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: who acts like this in free agency. There was another 293 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: situation this offseason where I wanted to write something positive 294 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: about a prominent free agent and I couldn't even do 295 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: that because everyone's scared of having anything written during free agency. 296 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Heaven forbid, a team sees something in the fine print 297 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: or interprets something the wrong way. Agents are just not 298 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: into that. So okay, I got it. We delay it again. 299 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: Then about a week ago, I connect with Max again 300 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: and he says, Okay, it's time, you can do it now. 301 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: And he had been getting some questions about it from 302 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: other writers and this is getting out there, and he 303 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: had promised and he honored his promise, and that doesn't 304 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: always happen. In life, in baseball and journalism. So number one, 305 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I thank Max for that. And also this story a 306 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: lot of fun to work on, obviously, even as long 307 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: as I had to wait. This story, also, as I 308 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: said earlier, is testament to Scherzer and what he is 309 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: as a pitcher, who he is as a pitcher, what 310 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: he has accomplished, why he has accomplished this the Aces 311 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: in particular, And you can talk about Scherzer, Erlin, Ender, 312 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Kershaw and you're the current guys, Wheeler, Schooble. These guys 313 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: are borderline obsessive and the borderline obsessive and it makes 314 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: them great. It's part of what makes them great. So 315 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: that to me kind of comes through in the story. 316 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: And yes, in the end, for me at least, it 317 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: was worth the wait. And you can ask, well, Ken, 318 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: why'd you sit on this while I sat on it? 319 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Because you have to have the player's blessing to go 320 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: ahead with the story about the player. If he's telling 321 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: me something and saying you can't write this, I have 322 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: to honor that as much as I would hope he 323 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: would honor his commitment to let me publish the story 324 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: when he believes the time is appropriate. So that's what 325 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: happened here. It's all good. And again this story. When 326 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: I would tell people friends of mine at the athletic 327 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: perhaps about this, they didn't even believe it. They were like, 328 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. But it's not ridiculous, and you've got to 329 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: read it to see what I'm talking about and to 330 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: see all the details and everything that came about in 331 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: this process for him. But he played the piano. He's 332 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: forty one years old, he's back. He had an amazing 333 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: spring teen and two thirds scoreless innings, and it's all because, 334 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: well maybe not all because, but it's partly because you 335 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: played the piano. Well back after this. 336 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: This is it Kratz Opening weekend of the season. 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Support the show and spread the 364 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: word with a hat, a T shirt, and a lot more. 365 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Robert Hoffman for his recent shirt purchase. 366 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: Be like Robert and dressed like the fairest of them all. 367 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: All right, here we go with Brillan Can and let's 368 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: get to your questions. The first one, which pitching matchup 369 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: are you most intrigued by? This would be for Opening Day. 370 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I've got a good one, and there are a lot 371 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: of good ones opening Day pitchers, for goodness sake, they're 372 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: mostly the best pictures on their respective teams. But Paul 373 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Skenes versus Freddy Peralta, Pirates versus Mets, that is good 374 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: in any number of ways. Won Freddy Peralta's Mets debut 375 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: to Paul Skeen's first start coming off his Cy Young 376 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Award in the National League, And really for the Pirates, 377 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: the hope is that it will be the dawning of 378 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: a special season, or at least a better season. And 379 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: the Mets too, in a different context, entirely are hoping 380 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a different kind of 381 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: year than it was last year. That's why they spent 382 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: the entire offseason trying to fix their team and do 383 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: things dramatically differently. So that's a really intriguing matchup. But 384 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: I will warn everybody Opening Day is one game out 385 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: of one hundred and sixty two. We all do this, 386 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: We all fall susceptible to it every year, and we 387 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: all panic and overreact to Opening Day. Don't overreact. It's 388 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: one game, all right. Now for the next question, This 389 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: one is what is your favorite Opening Day memory. I've 390 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: got a good one, and I want to warn my producer, 391 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: Jeremy Meyer in advance that this is going to upset him, 392 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: even though it happened before he was born. Maybe I 393 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: won't upset them that much. But nineteen eighty nine the Oriols. 394 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm covering for the Baltimore Evening Sun. They are coming 395 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: off a season in nineteen eighty eight in which they 396 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: lost their first twenty one games, a record that still 397 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: stands and I am confident will never be broken. Oh 398 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: in twenty one and then lost one hundred and seven 399 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: for the season. My friend Dan Shawn to See, someone 400 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: who I greatly respect and have admired for years and 401 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: years and years, wrote a column entering that season with 402 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: the Red Sox playing in Baltimore and Opening Day predicting 403 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: predicting a no hitter by Roger Clemens. He predicted that 404 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: Clemens would no hit the Oriols on Opening Day. What happened, 405 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: Clemens didn't know hit the Ools cow Ripkins three run homer. 406 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: I believe it was the seventh inning Steve Finley, making 407 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: his major league debut in right field, crashed into a wall, 408 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: went on the injury list for the Oriols. But it 409 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: was a very dramatic win for the Ools, and it 410 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: triggered a season that was one of the great surprises 411 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: in recent baseball history. The Oriols went right down to 412 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: the wire with the Toronto Blue Jays, ultimately did not 413 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: win the division, fell short, but it was a crazy year. 414 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: It was a great year, and that is my favorite 415 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: Opening Day memory, just because it was so stunning and 416 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: Stan didn't get a no hitter. That was the other thing. 417 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: All right. Another question here, this one is are there 418 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: executives or managers already on the hot seat? Yes, they're 419 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: already absolutely executives and managers on the hot seat. And 420 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll start with Houston. Houston is a team that has 421 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: been perennially good, of course in the last decade or so, 422 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: did not make the playoffs last year for the first 423 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: time since twenty sixteen. Dana Brown is the general manager, 424 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: Joe Spotta is their manager. They've got a good team 425 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: and mine looks like a good signing. Burrows looks like 426 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: a good pickup. Both those guys in the rotation they've 427 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: got offense. We all know that the question is in 428 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: a division where they're playing against the Seattle Mariners, if 429 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: what they accomplished, whatever they accomplished, is going to be 430 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: good enough for their owner, Jim So those are two 431 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: guys that will definitely be under scrutiny, particularly if that 432 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: team does not achieve what the owner expects it to achieve. 433 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: The New York managers Aaron Boone and Carlos Mendoza always 434 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: under scrutiny. Mendoza perhaps a little bit more in the 435 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: sense that they changed a lot of coaches, and usually 436 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: that's the prelude to a managerial change if things don't 437 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: go well. Boone, of course, we've been waiting for the 438 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: Yankees to win their first World Series in two thousand 439 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: and nine forever. He's been the manager for almost a 440 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: decade now, and they will be heat around him if 441 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: they fall short again. And I'll give you one more 442 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies manager Rob Thompson. Again, it's the question of 443 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: expectations versus performance. If the Phillies do not perform to 444 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: the level of expectations, then perhaps Rob Thompson will be 445 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: held responsible. A lot of times these things aren't fair. 446 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that any of these turnovers, if they happen, 447 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: would be fair considering what might transpire during the course 448 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: of the season. But those are some managers and executives 449 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: just to start the year that are on the hot seat. 450 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: And I know Mets fans will say Sterns as well, 451 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: he's not in the hot seat. We'll see what this 452 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: offseason brought the Mats and we'll see how it fares 453 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: and how they turn out. But I don't expect David 454 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Sterns to be in any trouble. So with that, I 455 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: want to thank everyone for watching and for listening. Foul 456 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Territory coming up at eleven am Eastern. It's aj Eric 457 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Kratz and Alana Rizzo, Bob Nightingale and Ruben Tomorrow Junior 458 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: join as well. We're back Thursday with Alto Rizzo, our 459 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: usual Thursday show. Have a great week. 460 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: Everyone bet MGM account holders today. 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