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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, Welcome home. Everybody, this is tipping a crous No,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Andrew Gellham and you're tuned into this week's

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<v Speaker 1>mini pod, which we have decided off the fly to

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<v Speaker 1>make this week's quick mini pod. Uh. Some answers to

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<v Speaker 1>the questions that y'all posed that we didn't get you

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<v Speaker 1>in the show, So forgive us, but also direct your

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<v Speaker 1>friends over here to see your debut on Native Lampod.

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<v Speaker 1>So how y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 4>How we have we have decided off we have on

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<v Speaker 4>the fly, off the fly. We have decided on the fly.

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<v Speaker 4>So didn't that means it's not on the fly, weirdo?

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<v Speaker 1>It is on the fly. We just decided on the fly,

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of minutes to do this said importantly, however,

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<v Speaker 1>more important than y'all doing all right? Yes, if it was,

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<v Speaker 1>if it is good, can we get to the first question? Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what you were talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome home, y'all.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm April McFadden from Chicago by the way of Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 6>and two things. DNC coverage loved it. Second thing, Angela,

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<v Speaker 6>listen to last week's episode, Andrew out cooolled you, I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't think that day would happen, but you.

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<v Speaker 3>Should let him have the if you feel in froggy.

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<v Speaker 6>Jump moment all to himself because it was great and

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<v Speaker 6>you had to bring the flower into it. We love

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<v Speaker 6>you though, anyway. But my question that I want y'all

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<v Speaker 6>to choose. There's a lot of talk about Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 6>Vice president, Kamala Harris energizing the base.

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<v Speaker 3>But is it her energizing the base or is the

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<v Speaker 3>base energizing her?

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<v Speaker 5>H What's I like that?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name? Differently, what was her name?

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<v Speaker 5>Do we remember?

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<v Speaker 3>Her name was? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>What is you talking about? I don't even know she

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<v Speaker 4>said about froggy jump, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said last week she said, when I said if you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling froggy jump, you said what you thought? It was, Tiffany. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say I'm telling you feeling froggy jump. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that may be true. However, I said froggy jump. You

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<v Speaker 1>then pulled over your uh potted plant. Oh the lid

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<v Speaker 1>that ain't a lily pad and she was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>should have let and you have that cool moment moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, I see, but is it cool if you said

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<v Speaker 2>the quote wrong?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's was to her, so maybe it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought she was talking about something else. I

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<v Speaker 2>was I'm glad that.

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<v Speaker 5>We we will let his.

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<v Speaker 1>April that I'm not cool. He does not need to

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<v Speaker 1>be little.

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<v Speaker 5>She's saying you cool. She's saying you cool. But I

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<v Speaker 5>love her question about is I think it's both. I

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<v Speaker 5>think it's both. That's my answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it doesn't make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>I am curious.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it doesn't make a difference, but I like it

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<v Speaker 2>as a question and a topic to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean I I do wonder is seriously, does

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<v Speaker 1>it make a difference if she's giving us energy or

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<v Speaker 1>if we're the ones giving her energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it does only because after the campaign

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<v Speaker 2>she she has to govern. And if you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you need like people around you cheering all the time

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<v Speaker 2>for you to lead with the courage of your convictions

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<v Speaker 2>and go out there and deliver for the people, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't always have that. As president, approval ratings go

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<v Speaker 2>up and down. So I would say she is energizing

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<v Speaker 2>the people. But she's being.

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<v Speaker 5>Fed a lot of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if we our energy is different when we're

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<v Speaker 2>in front of a live audience, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>people are you know, responding and talking to us, then

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<v Speaker 2>we have more energy.

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<v Speaker 5>Energy is contagious.

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<v Speaker 2>Our energy when we're together is different versus being on

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<v Speaker 2>a zoom. So yeah, I think it makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the people are feeding her energy and

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<v Speaker 2>I think she is feeding back.

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<v Speaker 5>Energy to us. I think it's both and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it, you know, and I think it's not just both.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's like a where's that from Lionking somewhere?

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<v Speaker 4>Circle of life, Like there's a whole linking. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a whole like ecosystem that is happening. And I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people were excited to see a shift on

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it energized the party.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it energized some young folks who were like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe there's an opportunity to have a conversation with someone

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<v Speaker 4>who's as stuck in their ways. I think Kamala Harrison

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<v Speaker 4>demonstrated that she listens even to opposing views, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that you can see a complete shift in her demeanor,

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<v Speaker 4>and that is coming from the love that she gets.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, when she was on the stage of

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<v Speaker 4>her speech that Thursday night at the DNC, I wonder

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<v Speaker 4>how many times Kamala said thank you, And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was genuine gratitude because when she was you know, VP,

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<v Speaker 4>or she still is VP, but as the VP, she

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<v Speaker 4>was in such obscurity whether you know, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 4>that she wasn't working hard, but she wasn't getting the

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<v Speaker 4>coverage and the attention that the work she was doing,

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<v Speaker 4>the boldness of the work she was doing really deserves.

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<v Speaker 4>So now to kind ofly be to kind of be seen,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it does do something to her and for her,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that she's now reciprocating that seminergy.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically I agree with Tip.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's electric. I think she's electorate, electrical by

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. But I've also been in spaces where there's

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<v Speaker 1>been great anticipation for someone and the people didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>let down, like it's almost as if you can't reach

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<v Speaker 1>the level at which folks have put yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>it was just yeah, which is why I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>the way this thing started was her impressing everyone because

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<v Speaker 1>we were so refreshed to hear her voice, see her disposition,

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<v Speaker 1>see the snap you know, the snap back, the the

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<v Speaker 1>you know what she was like, as the saying goes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you got something to say, say that didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, right, she she played on on on

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that felt very familiar to her. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like you both said, she was in She

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<v Speaker 1>was in her body. She was fully encompassing Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they call her. When you know everybody ain't

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<v Speaker 1>in listening here, right, whatever that name is, she was

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<v Speaker 1>fully embodying that. And I would just say the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>is that it can work both ways. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she met us above our expectations, performed at a level

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<v Speaker 1>get certainly given the circumstances, the unforeseen circumstances of it

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<v Speaker 1>all that you would have thought she had been preparing

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<v Speaker 1>and you know sort of you know, teed up on

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<v Speaker 1>this a long, long, long, long long time ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, I think the Kamala Harris that we are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing now was different than the one that we saw

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<v Speaker 1>when she was running for president. I feel like she

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<v Speaker 1>is fully yeah in the sense that yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was not as compelled by her then I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>that her positions on issues were as solid as they

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<v Speaker 1>are I think, as they are now. She learned some things, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she learned some things, Yes, sure, And that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean about flip flopping. This whole thing that people can't

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<v Speaker 1>evolve if you aren't every single day learning something new,

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<v Speaker 1>adding to the repertoire, maybe even contradicting some things you

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<v Speaker 1>knew before. Then what are you doing? Are you really living,

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<v Speaker 1>are you really experiencing? Are you open to whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>universe is putting? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>Your way?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not blaming anybody for an evolution so long

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<v Speaker 1>as it's hard come by. Like you, you know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>done some thinking and some some some doing here, So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it makes a total difference, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there's something different in the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we thought of her at some level and she came

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<v Speaker 1>out in the stratosphere and has really, you know, bodied

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<v Speaker 1>this this race up to this point, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>she'll do it, you know beyond guys.

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<v Speaker 4>One one other question on this question, how much of

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<v Speaker 4>that that energizing do you think is coming from this

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<v Speaker 4>inherent desire to protect Kamala Harris, Like, we think about

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<v Speaker 4>what we've had to do to ensure they know her name,

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<v Speaker 4>to ensure they understand just how qualified she is. I

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<v Speaker 4>wonder if some of what is feeling energizing is this

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<v Speaker 4>innate desire and need we know it, like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>secondhand to protect not only what is ours. Like remember

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<v Speaker 4>when Congressoman Budget got on the podcast of the DNC

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<v Speaker 4>when Leonard asked her what was the difference between Hillary

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<v Speaker 4>Clinton running and Kamala Harris running for her? And she

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<v Speaker 4>says she is mine, and yeah, it was like that.

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<v Speaker 4>When she said that, I had goosebumps. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, there was.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that was very diferent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, like, we are part of the largest

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<v Speaker 2>sorority of the globe as Black women. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>magical space, a magical thing to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't hold hands, we chain a soul. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the privilege to even dislike each other. There are

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<v Speaker 2>people who I don't, you know, amongst us and family talk,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, I don't really rock with her, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like her, you know, But when we get out

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<v Speaker 2>here in the world, you know, and somebody's attacking her.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to stand with my sister. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn you over to them, because I know the

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<v Speaker 2>cruelty of them too well. So I think as black

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<v Speaker 2>women we are a coalition, and black women are the base,

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest, most enthusiastic part of the base of the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party, and even outside the party, just a base

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<v Speaker 2>of voters who stand on the side of goodness and

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<v Speaker 2>righteousness and does what's right. So yeah, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a part of protecting her, but also investing in

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves and our future and trusting. If I got to

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<v Speaker 2>choose between her and this unhinged ass white man, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going with somebody who looks like me.

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<v Speaker 5>Every time there.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a really quickly there was a father. I man

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<v Speaker 2>told this on the podcast before. There was a father

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<v Speaker 2>who was letting his young black daughter fly by herself

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time, and he told her, if you

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<v Speaker 2>get in any trouble, if you get lost, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have any problems, find the closest sister you can and

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<v Speaker 2>tell her you're lost and you need help. That says

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<v Speaker 2>so much, because if I had to unleash my child

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, I would offer her the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Find any black woman and tell her you need help

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<v Speaker 2>because we so try. I don't have to know you, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are me and I am you. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>there is something some of that with Kamala Harris. We

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<v Speaker 2>got less than ten minutes. I don't want to take

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<v Speaker 2>that much time.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Question this next question. But I will say that I

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<v Speaker 1>think respecting the bond of obviously amongst black women and

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<v Speaker 1>women of color, it's all real, is that black men

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<v Speaker 1>and I think other communities also feel this ownership and

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<v Speaker 1>protection piece because once someone sets their aspirations at this level,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever level it is, you have the courage to put

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out there. It's like, Nah, you can't let every

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Dick Harry run along Trump or you know, run

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<v Speaker 1>along and strike that person down, because you're now going

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<v Speaker 1>at the best of us. You're now going at what's

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<v Speaker 1>represent what I feel is part representation of me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of us got are back for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that next question?

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<v Speaker 7>High Native Lampod family, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 7>I live just outside of Washington, DC, in a suburb

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<v Speaker 7>of DC in northern Virginia. I'm sure you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 7>that area and My question revolves around how can we motivate, mobilize,

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<v Speaker 7>and centivize Black Americans who live in upper middle class

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<v Speaker 7>communities to participate in holding elected officials accountable in between

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<v Speaker 7>election cycles. So I live in a community in which

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of black people seem to me to be

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<v Speaker 7>very comfortable. They don't want to upset the apple gart

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<v Speaker 7>they don't want to upset the status quoth. They don't

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<v Speaker 7>want to upset and jeopardize their own comfort. And so

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<v Speaker 7>it seems as though black people are taking and tolerating

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of behavior by elected officials instead of holding

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<v Speaker 7>these officials accountable. Do you guys think that there is

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<v Speaker 7>something that we can do as a group as black

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<v Speaker 7>people in order to motivate and sentivize these people or

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<v Speaker 7>these the people that Harriet just would have left behind.

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<v Speaker 7>So much answer to answer my question.

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<v Speaker 3>And Tiffany, it was meeting you the other way.

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<v Speaker 7>So much for being so gracious with your time and

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<v Speaker 7>generous with your spirit.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care.

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<v Speaker 7>I love you guys. Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like I know her? Like, where do I

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<v Speaker 2>know her from? Can I tell you, guys? I met her?

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Harriet was in town and he was doing a

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<v Speaker 2>book talk for Black a f history, amazing book.

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<v Speaker 5>Please read it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was doing a book talk at Sankofa and she Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they gave me a shout out from the stage, and

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<v Speaker 2>she came up to me and was saying how much

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<v Speaker 2>she loves NLP. She said, she listens going in the

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<v Speaker 2>car in the morning with her kids. But I told

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<v Speaker 2>you all about her.

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<v Speaker 5>And anyway, Yes, that was the woman who I met.

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<v Speaker 2>She was so sweet. She loves y'all, like she loves

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<v Speaker 2>the whole podcast. So I'm like, where do I know

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<v Speaker 2>her from? She's I literally was showing her how to

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<v Speaker 2>send a question.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh, you can send it.

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<v Speaker 1>On this She said it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. Who want to take that question?

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<v Speaker 4>I love this question so much, in part because it's

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<v Speaker 4>something that I've wrestled with for for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>Still wrestle with it, wrestle with it in a book

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<v Speaker 4>that I'm going to write and publish at some point.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that black folks have had to be

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<v Speaker 4>very strategic and calculating, and in some instances to our

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<v Speaker 4>own detriment. There are a number of elected officials on

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<v Speaker 4>the local, state, and federal level who have decided that

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<v Speaker 4>incremental progress is better than no progress at all, and

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<v Speaker 4>I understand it, but it is immensely frustrating to be

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<v Speaker 4>talking about incrementalism four hundred and fifty plus years after

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<v Speaker 4>our arrival here we know the first documented arrival, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying four under fifty plus years after arrivals period.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we're talking about a people who built this,

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<v Speaker 4>of people who are challenged on ownership, of people who

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<v Speaker 4>when they have when we have created areas there were

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<v Speaker 4>our own, just to be out of your way and

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<v Speaker 4>to not coexist, and you burn that down to the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>It is very frustrating to deal with folks who are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>well I've arrived. The rest of y'all haven't arrived, but

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<v Speaker 4>y'all will figure it out, like we should at the

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<v Speaker 4>very least have a united front. So that incremental progress

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<v Speaker 4>is never bold, it is never radical, and it never

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<v Speaker 4>really results in our true liberation. It is something that

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<v Speaker 4>we have to I think, probably wrestle with in a

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<v Speaker 4>maybe not a public forum, but in a large forum

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<v Speaker 4>where we address the needs of a black agenda. I

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<v Speaker 4>will give a shout out here to Black Features Lab

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<v Speaker 4>that developed the Black Census and did one in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty two and has used that census to formulate a

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<v Speaker 4>Black Economic agenda, But that Black Economic agenda does not

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily coincide with.

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<v Speaker 3>UH. What is the name of that organization?

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<v Speaker 4>Black Economic Alliance and and b e A does not

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<v Speaker 4>talk to necessarily UH Black to the Future Action Fund.

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<v Speaker 4>To ensure that our collective and widespread and disparate interests

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<v Speaker 4>are all coming together, we need those spaces. We got

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<v Speaker 4>to work together to see our collective advancement, Like if

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<v Speaker 4>we're honest, yes to these things.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you name those two groups that kept thinking

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a candidate having to go and try

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<v Speaker 1>and recruit dollars and the very different interest Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're talking about the poohbas versus the popular, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the proletariat NOE. Not to be disparaging to any

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<v Speaker 1>particular group, I would just say Angela and Tiff. In

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<v Speaker 1>my experience, I have come across cush or cushy or

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable black folks in my own community and around the

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<v Speaker 1>state when campaigning who have frankly come by their They've

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<v Speaker 1>earned their spot wherever that spot may be for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But in many ways that spot always feels tenuous. That

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<v Speaker 1>spot always feels like it could be taken from us.

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<v Speaker 1>That it could be, you know, whether it's something I said,

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<v Speaker 1>or I didn't pay how much to the right person,

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever that is. And so folks haven't lost I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the revolutionary in them. They still have a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>they still have an aspiration. They still know what it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like to be kicked, and they know when they're

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<v Speaker 1>being kicked, even if they don't give voice to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But their perch doesn't allow them the flexibility to be

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<v Speaker 1>to act it out in the way that we might think.

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<v Speaker 1>I was always shocked that so many of the white

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<v Speaker 1>folks who wrote me checks to run for office and

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing never hesitated to come by the

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<v Speaker 1>office visit state what their issue was, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>zoning or their support for something or another. And oftentimes

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<v Speaker 1>our community didn't want to put upon me. It was

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<v Speaker 1>good enough for them for me to show up, be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get my words out. And if there was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing I was passionate about to see that thing

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<v Speaker 1>crossed over the three to two finish line and we

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<v Speaker 1>win victory. That it was like, we know that it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard enough just getting up every day and doing this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we don't want to add to it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would just encourage us. I appreciate that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the elected officials in your community appreciate not being

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<v Speaker 1>put upon. But in truth, that's what we're there for.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't hold us accountable, encourage and applaud us,

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<v Speaker 1>but also admonish us when it is necessary, then what

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<v Speaker 1>is this all for. Then we're not moving our agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>And as good of an elected official may be and

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<v Speaker 1>as on point around the issues you care about, they

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<v Speaker 1>may be, know that there is another interest out there

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<v Speaker 1>who's pulling them in a different direction. So it matters

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<v Speaker 1>that your voice is in the room. It matters that

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<v Speaker 1>you say what you believe deserves being addressed, and that

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<v Speaker 1>you be dogmatic about it. You don't have to be disrespectful,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can absolutely ride that horse, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, through the finish line. So I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a lack of interest in wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>hold people accountable, or lack of interest, or even an

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<v Speaker 1>absence of desire, but rather that the world has whipped

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<v Speaker 1>us into a place, and the reality of the world

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<v Speaker 1>has whipped us into a place where we do hedge

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to our positionality because our movement from

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<v Speaker 1>that place impacts our household, my children, my children's future,

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<v Speaker 1>my family, my you know, dot dot dot, you put in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fill in the blood line. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a I don't think it's there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything sinister there. It's probably just the need for for

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<v Speaker 1>for for frankly, updating our outlook on what accountability looks

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<v Speaker 1>like for each other.

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<v Speaker 5>All Right, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's close. Our mini pod, Guys.

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