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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCray, and new he scrugs.

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Speaker 1: Here we are everybody. It's Friday. That means it's time

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Speaker 1: for the players. Lines from knew he scrugs Longtime Cowboys

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Speaker 1: reported joint by Danny McCray and Barry Church, two former

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys safeties. All right, it's Friday, McCray, how are

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Speaker 1: we doing? Man? I'm doing good. Man. I'm sad about

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Speaker 1: my my picks from last week, you know, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen you over the haying non popados online, so I gotta,

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Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta correct that today. But

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Speaker 1: it's Friday. Man, I made it through another week, so

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Speaker 1: everything's good on my end. Church. But man, it's it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful Friday. It suns out. I might actually

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Speaker 1: hit the golf course after this, so it's an amazing day.

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Speaker 1: I'm back in Texas and I'm back in so look, man,

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Speaker 1: it's an amazing Friday. Amazing. Here's Here's what I absolutely

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Speaker 1: love about you, Church and the life you're living, man,

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Speaker 1: is that you can just decide, Hey, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and play golf after this. So golf

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Speaker 1: is at least a four hour it's at least a

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Speaker 1: four hour deal that you with young children can just

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Speaker 1: rolling out the door and your wife's like, cool, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I know I can't go from people last say you

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Speaker 1: play golf. It's like, na, I don't because it's at

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Speaker 1: least four hours to play, and you want to spend

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Speaker 1: some time after. So it's a five hour deal. My

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Speaker 1: gonna gona play a game, be going for five hours.

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Speaker 1: But Church, you might hero. Man, I get to live

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Speaker 1: through you. Church. I'm living through you. I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I gotta take my son. I

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Speaker 1: gotta take him with me, So it ain't it ain't

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Speaker 1: just a complete just you know, dipping out of there.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have him with me. But overall, man, and

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Speaker 1: you know, it's good to get out of the house.

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Speaker 1: It's good to get out of the house and enjoy something.

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Speaker 1: So I gotta do it all right, all good. Um,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about a former teammate. UM. Jason Wit has retired.

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Speaker 1: He played this year with the Las Vegas Raiders, decided

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Speaker 1: to retire for a second time. Where do you guys

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Speaker 1: rank with all time when it comes to NFL tight ends? Man,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, d mack Uh listen, when you talk about

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Speaker 1: I'm putting him in number one when you talk about

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Speaker 1: all time tight ends. As far as consistency, I'll put

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Speaker 1: him in number one. He isn't the most talented. He

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Speaker 1: isn't He isn't the most talented tight end that we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen play. You know, He's not like a grum

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and get it play like receiver. But as far

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Speaker 1: think he's done that better than almost any tight end

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Speaker 1: in history. He's I think he's leading in receptions. He

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Speaker 1: many games he missed, but it's not many. So he

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Speaker 1: all right, since since you could have liked that way,

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Speaker 1: he will be a first ballot Hall of Fame. Hey, Grom,

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Speaker 1: don't count man, he's still playing. He's still playing because

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Speaker 1: Let me ask y'all both a quick question, real quick.

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Speaker 1: Do y'all think the move to Oakland put any type

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Speaker 1: when I think about Shannon in his career, he was legendary.

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Speaker 1: I think Jason, first off, there's only eight tight end.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys knows, there's only eight

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Speaker 1: I've always felt this way that having been the camp

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Speaker 1: Once you're in, baby, you're in. You know, once you're in,

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Speaker 1: Just just you know, I took my hat towy Jason

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Speaker 1: Witten has done in his NFL career coming out of

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Speaker 1: I said, one thing you knew about Winton when you

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Speaker 1: always open. So I mean, he he's a special player,

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Speaker 1: and he was a time. I would give him a

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Speaker 1: of cats know it. I know it had to garden

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Speaker 1: not saying that at all. I'd rather have Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: But to me, I think you do your homework on it,

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Speaker 1: and you see what possibilities are out there for you.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't hurt because you do not have Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: under contract right now. You don't Your quarterback right now

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Speaker 1: is Garrett Gilberty. So for me, I'm doing my homework

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Speaker 1: on matt Stafford. He has a lot of injuries, he

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Speaker 1: has it won a lot in Detroit, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's totally his fault. So for me, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my homework on it just to see what can happen. Man, listen,

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Speaker 1: you're away from Justin Fields to Matthew Stafford getting the

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Speaker 1: gas whatever I mean, gene whatever you can do to

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Speaker 1: get rid of Dak Prescott, even though you don't even listen,

437
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Speaker 1: even even though even though you believe that he is

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Speaker 1: he is a good quarterback and he could really take

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Speaker 1: us to the super Bowl. If he didn't cost as much,

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Speaker 1: then it will be okay. But you're doing anything you

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Speaker 1: can to say anything cheaper, anything cheaper than Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: even if it's Justin Fields or Joe. Matthew Stafford is

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Speaker 1: better for the Cowboys, so they can get some defensive

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Speaker 1: pieces and be okay on offense, and uh and probably

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Speaker 1: good on defense, and you know, you still don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly what they're gonna be no matter what player they get.

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Speaker 1: But hey, whatever, whatever, I like you back man, come on,

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Speaker 1: back man. Go So so, Barry, Barry, I want to

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Speaker 1: come in and ask you this here. Okay, are they

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Speaker 1: are not just they're going to want a draft pick?

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Speaker 1: So are you willing to give up the tenth overall

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft for Matthew? Okay? Then no? Not okay?

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Speaker 1: So so what do you get being up to go

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Speaker 1: get the quarterback because they're asking for a one. Well,

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Speaker 1: if they're asking for a one, they're out of their mind.

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Speaker 1: I mean, little Matt Stafford's eleven years in the league's

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Speaker 1: coming off of multiple surgeries, he hasn't completed a full

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Speaker 1: season and who knows how long. So for them to

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Speaker 1: ask for an I mean, that's that's out of podcast question.

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Speaker 1: That ain't even don't even put that. But if they

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Speaker 1: come saying, look we'll take you know, a second and

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Speaker 1: a third for Stafford, I do it? Man, Church, Church,

463
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Speaker 1: Can you can you make that? Do that list again?

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Speaker 1: Do that list again for why you wasn't wouldn't give

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Speaker 1: up a one for Matthew Stafford, please do that list

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Speaker 1: again and tell me why you want him on our t.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is what I'm saying is I think

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Speaker 1: he would be I think he'd be protected a lot

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Speaker 1: more if he was behind all offensive line than what

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Speaker 1: they had in Detroit. He has a lot more weapons

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Speaker 1: on our side than what he had in Detroit, and

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Speaker 1: I think he could play a little bit better. He's

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Speaker 1: a solution. I'm not sing tarisim gonna be on the

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Speaker 1: sideline together? Given team's little gonna man, Hey, hey, why

475
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Speaker 1: you bringing Tyre Smith? You talk about a better office

476
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Speaker 1: live saying, So you said Tyren Smith, Zach Martin? Who

477
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Speaker 1: else Lion Collins? And uh, you knows what. They can't

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Speaker 1: protect him better than what they had in Detroit? Well

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Speaker 1: what what what happened to zachon Martin Issia? Well, yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: this is the first time Zach Martin been injured in

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Speaker 1: what eight years, even in the league. We're happening, we're

482
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Speaker 1: having a little college we're happening to t first time

483
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Speaker 1: and it was an injury buzz throughout the whole dousand

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Speaker 1: church organization happening again next church. Collins didn't even step

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Speaker 1: on the field one time. For the first time since

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Speaker 1: he's been drafted. He'll have it. He'll be back. He'll

487
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Speaker 1: be back. So so Church, here here's the thing. You

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Speaker 1: may not value Matthew Stafford and trading a number one,

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Speaker 1: but they are going to get that from someone in

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Speaker 1: this league that they just thought. Way. Look, there's no

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Speaker 1: way if you are the Chicago Bears, if you are

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts, a number one pick for Matthew Stafford

493
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Speaker 1: versus what else you are looking at in free agency

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Speaker 1: is going to be an upgrade. I mean, it just is.

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Speaker 1: There's plenty of teams out. I mean, if you're the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots right now, you know Matthew Stafford is

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Speaker 1: an upgrade over what you have. So giving up a

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Speaker 1: number one pick for a quarterback, and if you're trying

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Speaker 1: to especially if you're in a win now mode, if

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Speaker 1: you're a matt Neeggie and you're trying to hold on

501
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Speaker 1: to your job and secure a second contract, and you're

502
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Speaker 1: Ryan Pays the GM going and giving up your number

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Speaker 1: one for Matthew Stafford versus, hey, we're ready to run

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Speaker 1: it back with Nick Foles or Mittell Trubisky. You'll do that.

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Speaker 1: So while you may not value the ten. There are

506
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Speaker 1: going to be other people that value the ten. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just in in this league of quarterback play now.

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Speaker 1: I am with Danny on this one all day long.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, I'm Church Church, Sorry, you buy yourself on

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Speaker 1: you know. You know, I look at Matt Stafford and

511
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Speaker 1: here's a man who's been in this league since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine. He's made one Pro Bowl. That was

513
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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen when they went eleven and five and

514
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Speaker 1: I ended up getting beaten by the Cowboys. So but

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Speaker 1: he's made the Pro Bowl one time. And I started

516
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Speaker 1: looking out at this list of guys who's made the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl during you know, during this time. He Mitchell

518
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Speaker 1: Trubisky made a Pro Bowl, Jamis made a Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota made a Pro Bowl, Kirk Cousins made the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl twice, Nick Foles made the Pro Bowl, Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz made you know, Andy Dalton made it three times.

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Speaker 1: This guy only made it once. And yes, we know

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Speaker 1: the Lions had their issues and whatnot, but I just

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Speaker 1: I just think that the time the Cowboys should have

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Speaker 1: gone for trying to get hi Matt Stafford was was

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Speaker 1: was years ago. It was really toward the end of

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Speaker 1: the Romo run. I just think that Stafford is not

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Speaker 1: what they need to mean, the Colts seemed like a

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Speaker 1: really good fit for Matthew sta. Their offensive line right

530
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Speaker 1: now is a better offensive line than the Cowboys, and

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Speaker 1: he wants to throw it down the field. I think

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Speaker 1: Frank Wright could accommodate him and give him what he wants,

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Speaker 1: But I just don't see him as a fit in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: So let's go to the other quarterback that people have

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Speaker 1: been talking about here, Deshaun Watson. He's told the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans he wants out. He signed a contract last year

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Speaker 1: basically making forty million dollars a year. Um, yeah, your

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Speaker 1: thoughts there are people want to connect into the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Would you entertain or have a discussion about that. If

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Speaker 1: you're Jerry Stephen Jones and Will McClay mccraig, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: still high on deck Man. I like Deshaun Watson him,

542
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Speaker 1: but the intangible, that the intensible that that that has

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Speaker 1: here in Dallas is his leadership and familiarity with the

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Speaker 1: with the players and the coaches that are here. The

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Speaker 1: city loves them, the team loves him. He is the

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Speaker 1: leader of the locker room, and when you get rid

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Speaker 1: of him for DeShawn Watson, what you switch out is

548
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Speaker 1: a brand new guy who has to now get familiar

549
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Speaker 1: where everybody does here. Not saying that he can't do it,

550
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Speaker 1: but this is pretty much turn key. You're still gonna

551
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Speaker 1: be paying the guy forty million dollars. I mean it's

552
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Speaker 1: the same thing you're gonna be paying Dak anyway. So

553
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Speaker 1: you may ever will keep this guy and let him

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Speaker 1: prove what he can do. Once you fix up you,

555
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Speaker 1: once you fix up the defense and show up the

556
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Speaker 1: offensive line to get that running game get back going.

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Speaker 1: Dak is the guy who can take you to the

558
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Speaker 1: super Bowl. I think it's too close of a match

559
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Speaker 1: for you to be trading out Deshaun Watson and Dak Prescott.

560
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Speaker 1: I would give Deshaun Watson now the slight edge, but

561
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Speaker 1: not enough for me to say, hey, Dak, you leave

562
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Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson this much better than you. So you you

563
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: telling me right now. If it was a one for

564
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Speaker 1: one DeShawn for Dak, no questions asked, one for one trade,

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Speaker 1: you would not do that. If you were the Dallas

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Speaker 1: cout Boys, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it because listen, listen, DeShawn Watson had

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Speaker 1: a great year this year with with with with not

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Speaker 1: that much talents. We were saying that. We were saying

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Speaker 1: the same thing about Dak last year when they were

571
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Speaker 1: losing and he was running up the stats getting trash yards.

572
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Speaker 1: I mean so so, I mean the stats are crazy,

573
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Speaker 1: The stats are crazy. Dak Prescott is one of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: just like uh, I think DeShawn Watson won the game

575
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Speaker 1: and they lost in Kansas City. Right last year they

576
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Speaker 1: beat they beat Buffalo and lost the case. Yeah, so

577
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: listen that they both they both can win. But I'm

578
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Speaker 1: not trading out that. First of all, that'll make the

579
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Speaker 1: Joneses look horrible. You've been signing off on this guy

580
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Speaker 1: saying how you gonna pay them and how much you

581
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Speaker 1: love them, and you would just look horrible to the

582
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Speaker 1: league and any other free agent that was gonna coming

583
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Speaker 1: here and say, hold on, this is the dude you

584
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Speaker 1: said you love. This is the guy you said you

585
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Speaker 1: had his back. He were out there and broke his

586
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Speaker 1: leg for y'all playing on the deal because y'all didn't

587
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Speaker 1: pay them two years ago. And then you gonna let

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Speaker 1: him go and bring in DeShawn Watson. And just imagine

589
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott going somewhere to coming and beating the Cowboys

590
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Speaker 1: year in and year out after you let them go,

591
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Speaker 1: after you trash them like that. That that'll just be horrible.

592
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Speaker 1: And it ain't show friends, it's show business. If you're

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Speaker 1: telling me Deshaun Watson can't come in here and win

594
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Speaker 1: football game, It's is outrageous. The Cowboys fan base, they

595
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Speaker 1: would four about one month, might might hate the Jones

596
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Speaker 1: and might hate the Cowboys organization, but once Deshaun Watson

597
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Speaker 1: came in here and start winning games, you would you

598
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Speaker 1: wouldn't even hear about that pobscot anymore. Look, I think

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Speaker 1: there's only maybe maybe maybe three teams in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League that wouldn't make that deal right now. That's

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, maybe maybe Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers, and

602
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Seattle with or Russell Wilson. Everybody else they

603
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Speaker 1: would make that trade in the heartbeat, and I'm sure

604
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys would do the same. What's what's second?

605
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Speaker 1: What's second? Movie? Hold on, way, how about to Deshaun

606
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Speaker 1: Watson getting paid? Because I gotta I gotta push back

607
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: on the Church with the he's getting he's getting forty.

608
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Speaker 1: You don't want to pay back forty. You don't want

609
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Speaker 1: to pay back for he's gonna get forty two, forty three,

610
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: that's what the number. If Dak was getting forty, you

611
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: would already signed that contract. If you wanted forty thirty five.

612
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Speaker 1: We gotta look at the reports on that one year

613
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: it was it was it was the thirty five. So

614
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: and it became it became about the number of years

615
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Speaker 1: Dak one or a four year deal. That's what these

616
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are signing. They're signing four years. The Cowboys wanted five.

617
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Speaker 1: The Church. I would just want to interject this. You

618
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Speaker 1: said one on one, Houston is not trade one Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: Dak Watson, Yes, that I can understand that. I will

620
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Speaker 1: say hypothet right if it was one, would you okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you what the hypothetical aint go bee

622
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Speaker 1: us there. Houston is for a voteload. So it is

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Speaker 1: going to cost you act minimum Dak Prescott and your

624
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Speaker 1: tenth overall pit. That's the minimum them that you're going

625
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Speaker 1: to have to do to get into this. You would

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Speaker 1: do it, do it, I do it, man, so long

627
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Speaker 1: so you will so you so you want to go

628
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Speaker 1: in on defense as long as as long as you

629
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Speaker 1: can get rid of that. But if DeShawn Watson come

630
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Speaker 1: share away that first pickle, you said, go pick a

631
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Speaker 1: defensive player on and just have DeShawn Watson play. I'm

632
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I think that Shaan could do. You

633
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: can do what the Cowboys had than Dak Prescott. Oh defense, No,

634
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: I think he could. He could overcome a bad defense

635
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: more than Dak Prescott could. I think a historically bad

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Speaker 1: Danny mcray. So in the previous segment, Barry Church has

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Speaker 1: let it be know he would trade Dak Prescott for

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson in a one on one on a one

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Speaker 1: on one trade. I do not believe that's going to

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Speaker 1: happen because the Houston Texans, by reports, are seeking at

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Speaker 1: least three first round picks, and the Cowboys gonna have

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Speaker 1: at the least give up their first round pick to

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Speaker 1: get in the conversation along with Dak Prescott, McCray is

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Speaker 1: that of the opinion he wants Dak now. I talked

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Speaker 1: to trusted friend of mine who's who's been in professional

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Speaker 1: football for well over thirty years and I said, give

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Speaker 1: me your opinion on this. And first off, he said,

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Speaker 1: he thought when you just asked he who's the better

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Speaker 1: quarterback between Watson and Dak, he said he thought Watson

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Speaker 1: was a better quarterback. But then he says, let's add

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Speaker 1: in the other things. You got to think about the

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Speaker 1: cost of what it will take for you to get Watson.

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Speaker 1: He said he would keep Dak Scott. And then the

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Speaker 1: other thing he pointed out, he said, look, Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: before he went down and even what he did last

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Speaker 1: year was doing things right there comparable to what Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson was able to do. So he thinks that Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: while he's not as good at quarterback as Watson, he

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Speaker 1: thinks he's right there. He thinks he's a young, up

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Speaker 1: and coming quarterback and he would not give up um

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott based on the other things you'd have to

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Speaker 1: give up. So that that that was his opinion on

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Speaker 1: on the two players. But I'm sorry, Church, You're going

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Speaker 1: to have to give up more than just Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have to give up your first round

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Speaker 1: pick at number ten. And oh, by the way, I

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00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: guess what you're gonna have to sign Dak to a franchise,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the franchise tag, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: then move him on the way. So, um, I just think,

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Speaker 1: um yeah, I just think that that's not you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not gonna happen. First off, First off, let

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Speaker 1: me just say this. If I'm Houston, I'm called up Deshan,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you you here, you got a contract,

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00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna be here. Yeah, let's work this out. What

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00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: is it you need to do? I mean the nickname

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Speaker 1: they gave cal mcnar down there. According to the Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated articles, Tommy Boy based off the movie because he

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Speaker 1: took over the family business and he don't know what

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Speaker 1: he's doing. So Tommy Boy needs to get in there

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Speaker 1: and tell Deshaun, short of me giving you profit sharing

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Speaker 1: in the team, how can I help make this frantise?

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Speaker 1: You want to be back with it? I mean, because

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Speaker 1: you've got to do something. But do you need to

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Speaker 1: add another year to the contract? Me? What is it

742
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: you have to do to make this guy happy? You

743
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: simply do not find guys like Deshaun Watson. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if they get three first round picks, You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna find another guy like Deshaun wats. I got a question.

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Speaker 1: Did he did Deshaun Watson sign that contract after they

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Speaker 1: got rid of DeAndre Hopkins? Yes, okay, So that's the

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Speaker 1: thing I got. The problem I got with this whole Deshaun,

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Speaker 1: you know, wanting out and all this other stuff. He

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Speaker 1: there was problems existing in that organization before he signed

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Speaker 1: the contract. So so I mean, I want out, I

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Speaker 1: want this, I want that, I want it. But and

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Speaker 1: then you go ahead and sign the contract if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to get out and everything was wrong in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and you want to get out, why I signed the contract.

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Speaker 1: But but Church, but Church, if I put the contract

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Speaker 1: in front of you, and and and part of the

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Speaker 1: stipulation of signing or the thing of signing this, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make sure we fix everything that you also

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Speaker 1: brought to our attention if you sign this contract as well,

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Speaker 1: so you'll be you'll begin on making these decisions, you'll

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Speaker 1: be whatever. So that's where Deshaun Watson Fields played it,

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Speaker 1: because he spoke about some stuff, you know, some concerns

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Speaker 1: that he had. They told them, I'm sure with something

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Speaker 1: going on with you know, they explain what happened with

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins all the other stuff, and he thought, you

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Speaker 1: know it's about to be a change, right, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: make a change. I'm signing it. This This is why

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Speaker 1: I want to be it because they said they're behind me,

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Speaker 1: and then and then they weren't. So so you traded

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Speaker 1: with his friend. You tell me, you apologize for and

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Speaker 1: then you're like, oh yeah, all of stuff we said

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Speaker 1: when you signed that contract that's out in the window.

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Speaker 1: We go in a different direction. Understand, Church, understand that point. Church.

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Speaker 1: I would I would tell you after the podcast, go

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Speaker 1: look up the Sports Illustrated story about the Texans and

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Speaker 1: Jack Easterby. Read that and it will give you some

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Speaker 1: insight into the issues that he has with the organizations

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00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: and other people across this league. Okay, so so that's there,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll also give you this bit of information

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Speaker 1: why he went to Clemson when he was recruited by

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Speaker 1: Davos Sweeney and what they had there, the organization, the

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Speaker 1: family like atmosphere. And we've seen since de Sean has

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Speaker 1: left there. You know what they built there, that culture

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Speaker 1: they built in Clemson has been very strong. He likes that.

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Speaker 1: That's what he wants and that is not there at

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Speaker 1: all in Houston. I again, it's just not um. And

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Speaker 1: what Sports Illustrated the article will show you was how

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Speaker 1: Call mcmayer has come in there and really he doesn't

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Speaker 1: know what he's doing. I mean, he just doesn't. And

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Speaker 1: if this is writers finding this out, imagine what the

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Speaker 1: player who's there day after day has seen and what

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Speaker 1: he knows. So so dive into that and I think

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Speaker 1: it will help, you know, guide you a little bit

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Speaker 1: into how he came to this decision. And he just said,

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Speaker 1: hey man, thanks, but let's let's go go our separate ways. Here.

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Speaker 1: We spoke earlier pre show about three free agents that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have that they must sign outside of Dak Prescott. Okay,

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Speaker 1: he is obviously the number one free agent of the

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Speaker 1: guy they need to sign. But after him, who are

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Speaker 1: three guys that you think the Cowboys need to take

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00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: care of this offseason? Well, if you if this on me,

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Speaker 1: there's three. There's three names. Three names that come to

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Speaker 1: mind for me. And they're not household names. They're not

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Speaker 1: big time names that all, man, we gotta sign him.

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Speaker 1: He gonna help this out of third. But the three

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Speaker 1: people that I and it's really four because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a slash between the two of them that I've

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Speaker 1: I've got number one. We gotta take care of LP.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is and I'm talking about whatever. I

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Speaker 1: I think that's the first time I even tried to

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Speaker 1: say his last nagger. We always just call him LP.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, this is the most consistent long snapper in

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Speaker 1: the game. There hasn't been many box snaps with the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys since that Romo incident back in I think

817
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Speaker 1: it was two thousand and seven in Seattle. That might

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Speaker 1: have been the last box snap that we've had with

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I'm not certain about that. But LP

820
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Speaker 1: is the most consistent guy on this team and we

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Speaker 1: need to take care of it. Maybe a minimum contract,

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Speaker 1: but we need to take care of the second. One

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Speaker 1: is kind of a slash because it could be either

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Speaker 1: or I'm going Justin March or I'm going Joe Thomas.

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Speaker 1: We need somebody to back up these linebackers. I know

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Speaker 1: we might addressed it in the draft, but if we don't,

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Speaker 1: we need somebody to back up these linebackers. Every one

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Speaker 1: of them has an injury prone I mean Sean Lee

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Speaker 1: is a free agent this year. Lbe went down for

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Speaker 1: some time, Jalen Smith went down before, so we need

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Speaker 1: somebody back there that can back him up, that knows

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Speaker 1: the system, that can run around and do similar things

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Speaker 1: that these guys can do. And I think both of

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Speaker 1: special teams. So I think we gotta take care of

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Speaker 1: either one of those two, maybe even both. For either

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Speaker 1: huge contract with those guys at all. And last, but

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Speaker 1: not least, we gotta take care of the MVP of

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Speaker 1: the team, Danny's boy C J. Goodwin, I mean little

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Speaker 1: special teams. This guy is a guy that we need

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Speaker 1: to market and bring back for special teams. We've seen

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Speaker 1: how much that can hurt us when we don't have

847
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: guys out there that can perform at a high left

848
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: for on special teams, we give up a lot of

849
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: field position. So for me, we gotta take care of

850
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: these guys basically mainly for special teams, but they got

851
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: to be a part of this team next year. Uh yeah, listen,

852
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Church, especially on LP. He has

853
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: been that that Jason Winden type of model of consistency,

854
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: especially since I've been in the league's he's been there.

855
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: You can always depend on him to make his blots

856
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: and make the snaps. And he's also one of those

857
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: quiet leaders, right, you know, you can go talk to him.

858
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: He kind of runs the special teams with the kicker.

859
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: He's not the captain, but he's one of those guys

860
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: who's always there, so you know the team can depend

861
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: on him. So I'm definitely, you know, signing to some

862
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: type of deal, some team friendly deal, and hopefully this

863
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: is one of the first times that the Cowboy takes

864
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: care of one of those special teams guys. So c J. Goodler, Man,

865
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. I am rooting for you. I

866
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: hope you get everything you deserve. Look around the league

867
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: and look at us what some of these guys are

868
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: getting paid, and make sure the Cowboys take care of you.

869
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: End that way, man, because you earned it. This year

870
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: you were the MVP of the defense and this one, Matt,

871
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: you may not like this from Church. But if the

872
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: cost is right, I think you have to try to

873
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: get Andy Dalton back. Well, yeah, listen, you got you got.

874
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback that's coming off a very very

875
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: serious injury. Other than him, you have your guy double

876
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: G on the roster, and you know, so we don't

877
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: have anything. So you need that security blanket, just like

878
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: you needed that security blanket this year. I think have

879
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: we went in and had a different type of defensive

880
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: game plan or talent on there and we got killing

881
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: more to stick to what works, which is running the

882
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: ball and focusing on play action. After that, I think

883
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton would have played a lot better and we

884
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: would have win a lot, a lot, a lot deeper

885
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: into the season and possibly get into the playoffs with

886
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: a better record. So you need a safety You need

887
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: a safety blanket. Man, Dak Prescot's coming off a serious injury.

888
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: You don't know when he's gonna be ready. So I'm

889
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: sharing up that backup quarterback spot. Did you see what

890
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: happened to Andy on that last game when all the

891
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: marbles was on the line, he reverted back to Andy

892
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: Dalton the Cincinnati playoff and listen, we can't depend on

893
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton. Look what happened to me? Man, this

894
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: is crazy, this is out of listening. Listen. He was

895
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: he was on and off, man, he was on and off.

896
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: Like like you said, during the season, Andy Dalton had

897
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: some some very bright spots to where you even changed

898
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: his name. Yeah, he didn't play well. He didn't play

899
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: well that last game. But I don't I don't think

900
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: that's that's how he would play the entire season. I

901
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: think this would be a second year in the offense.

902
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: I think he'll play a little better if he has to.

903
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not taking my back of quarter

904
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: position on double g. This does not happening. Not happening.

905
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: M I can't believe you said that they go ahead

906
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: and new. I can't believe talking about bringing par Paron

907
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: back in the phone. Uh. Look, I think if you're

908
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, this comes to a situation where you were,

909
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: here's a back up spent, you know, spend a few

910
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: games as a backup. Next thing you know, you're you're

911
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: starting again. And I think that's what Andy's gonna try

912
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: and do. He's gonna go out there and try and

913
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: find a place where he can go and play. There

914
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: were rumors about Andy to New England last year. Um,

915
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: if I'm Andy, I tell my agent to call Bill Belichick. Hey, see,

916
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: if I can get here, I'll take a one year

917
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: deal and and you know, compete. But I think if

918
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: you're Andy Dalton, you don't want to be back here.

919
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: They're gonna bring bring back that they've told you they're

920
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: playing on bringing back Dak Prescott, and he's gonna be

921
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: the starter. So I just I just don't see Andy

922
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Dalton here. I think he came here for what he

923
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: wanted to. Yes, Newly, Andy Dalton is at the bottom

924
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: of the free agent quarterback list. All I think. I

925
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: think there are many options out there that's better than

926
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. He'll find himself looking for a job to

927
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: be another backup after all the chips to settle when

928
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: all these guys who are coming available this offseason. Okay,

929
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: so so look at NEWI would you bring Andy Dalton

930
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: back if everything lined up and he was all right,

931
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I'll be there? Would you bring Andy Dalton back if

932
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: you can bring Andy Dalton back on the deal that

933
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: you just signed him too, it's three million dollars deal. Yes,

934
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, if I'm Andy Dalton. Okay, if

935
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Dalton, I'll go and take lesser money to

936
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: go out here and play with Sean McVay, who's done

937
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: with Jared Golf and compete with that other guy Walford

938
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: that they have out there. Man, if I'm Andy Dalton,

939
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: there's other situations. I would take the same money as

940
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys or less money to go and compete and

941
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: sign an incentive laden deal. You know, if the Bears

942
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: are gon bringing up Mitchell Trabiski and Nick Foles, if

943
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Dalton, I'll go over there and I'll try

944
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: my hand there. I mean, there's just other situations across

945
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: this league right now that I feel. If I'm Andy Dalton,

946
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: I think I got a better shot to go play

947
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: and actually get in there. I mean, Teddy Bridgewater up

948
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: there in Carolina, they ain't exactly given him a whole

949
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: voter confidence. So if I'm Andy Dalton, I'm gonna take

950
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: my shot where I think I got an opportunity to

951
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: play here. You know, the only way you're going to

952
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: play is if Dak Prescott is injured. These other situations

953
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: you actually could get an opportunity to play. Who knows

954
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: what they're going do out there in New Orleans. And

955
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: if they say they're gonna go with Taysom Hill, Shoot,

956
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: if I'm Andy Dalton, I roll out there too. Because

957
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: we know Taysom Hill cannot throw the football. Okay, he

958
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: can't do it. So that's my thing on Andy. There's

959
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: better situations out there that I think he could could hit.

960
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: The three free agents I have that, I think the

961
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: Cowboys should resign. CJ was number one for me. The

962
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys special teams. It was better under John Fossell. I

963
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: think it can continue to get better. But CJ good

964
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: when it's a guy that if you lose him, you're

965
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time replacing him. This is a

966
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: young man who knows what he's doing and you can

967
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: trust him. Trusting guys on special teams and knowing what

968
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: they're doing. I just think that's valuable. Number Two Joe Looney.

969
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: Joe Looney is a guy who can play center, he

970
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: can play guard. You bring him back here and if

971
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: he's backing up at both of those positions. He knows

972
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: this offense, he's trusted. I just think that's that to me,

973
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: is a valuable deal. We know how injuries go in

974
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: the National Football League, and especially after last year with

975
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Joe Looney's a guy I'm bringing back. And

976
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: a third guy that I'm going to bring back we

977
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: didn't bring up. And obviously LP's the name I probably

978
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: should have had on the list, But I'm gonna give

979
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: you a name here. Unrestricted wide receiver Noah Brown. There's

980
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: a guy that I looked at. I thought he had

981
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: some nice moments last year, and I'd like to bring

982
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: him back if I'm the Cowboys, because once again it's

983
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: injuries and having some depth here and somebody that knows

984
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: your offense. I'd like to see what Noah Brown could do.

985
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to see what he could do with Dak Prescott.

986
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: So those are my three tacks. You know, you know

987
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: who I would like to see what they can do.

988
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. I want to see what a Cooper. I

989
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: would have seen what al Mara Cooper could do when

990
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: you treat him like the number one receiver that he

991
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: deserves to be treated like scheme ups the rose for

992
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: the guy. Let him get sixteen seventeen hundred yards in

993
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: the season with ten touchdowns. Have him out there looking

994
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: like Davante Adams. Keep Noah Brown author roster because the

995
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: more weapons that you give Keller Moore, the more Amari

996
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Cooper falls to the wayside. And that twenty million dollars

997
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: that he's making is going out the window this year,

998
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: it's going you. You might not even be starting. Can

999
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: I say that? Can I say this? Danny? You walked

1000
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: right into the trap when I broke down? No bol,

1001
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I do, what's gonna happen with this? Danny?

1002
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: You just walking right on through that one? I listen.

1003
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in there, man. I want people

1004
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: to Amari Cooper is the number one receiver and he

1005
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: deserves to be treated and such, specially getting paid one

1006
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: hundred million bucks. All right, So treat him that way. Man.

1007
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: We don't need numbre receivers. We got Gallop, we got

1008
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: CD and we got a Murray Cooper, we got Blake Joe,

1009
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: when we got Usten. We got so many weapons. We

1010
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: don't need another one to take the attention off of

1011
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: our number one guy who is going to help carry

1012
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: us deep into the playoffs and possibly to a super Bowl. No.

1013
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear another about Noah Brown. Did

1014
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: you guys, did you guys have your top three quarterback

1015
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: free agents? Did you have your list there? If we're

1016
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: in if we're talking about if we're bringing every quarterback

1017
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: that may be free agents, Oh yeah, we can do that.

1018
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Church, what you got the top three?

1019
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Now we're talking about just top three quarterbacks? Right? Just

1020
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: free agents coming up? Listen that that that includes that

1021
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: to me, that includes like Big Band who possibly could

1022
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: be available. And I also threw in, uh yeah, I know,

1023
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I never remember. And the thing, these are guys who

1024
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: could possibly be on the move this year, like if

1025
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: you wanted to make a move for Deshaun Watson, if

1026
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: you want to make a move for Big Band because

1027
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: they weren't gonna pay him forty million dollars and he

1028
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: ended up being whatever. This is, these are people who

1029
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: could possibly be available. Who are the top guys? We'll

1030
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: go ahead? Then you got you gotta go ahead? Go ahead?

1031
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: All right, Listen, I'm going Jamis Winston, Cam Newton and

1032
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now I'm kidding. I'm kidding Patrick. I was

1033
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: a kidding man. I'm a kid. I was a kid. Listen,

1034
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: my number my number one guy, just because everybody is

1035
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: talking about him, everybody's talking about him. The number one

1036
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: guy to me has to be de Sean Watson. Where

1037
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: is he landing there? What type of deal are you

1038
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: trying to put together if you're a team that really

1039
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: needs a quarterback and and and that's that's the only

1040
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: thing that you need to get you really started, or

1041
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: you looking for a franchise guy. De Sean Watson. I

1042
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: want to put back second because I don't want him

1043
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: to go anywhere. But you know, in all reality, he

1044
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,479
Speaker 1: is going to be a free agent and he could

1045
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: possibly be on the move and that that would be

1046
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: very unfortunate for us. And number three for me would

1047
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: be my guy Stafford. And even though he's not healthy,

1048
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I think if you put him in the right system,

1049
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: maybe a New England, maybe San Francisco, you know, get

1050
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: him with the right coach and the right weapons, I

1051
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: think he can be a top player. He could carret

1052
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: team deeper to the playoffs as well. So those are

1053
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: my top three, Okay, solid list, solid lists for me.

1054
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: If we're talking about guys that may be on the move,

1055
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: included into this top free agent list or top quarterback

1056
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: lists of guys who might might change teams. My three

1057
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: and would be of course the shan Watson. We've talked

1058
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: a lot about him where he could land in the

1059
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: possibilities for me to shan Watching, the best landing spot

1060
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion for him would be out there. I

1061
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: don't know if this is gonna get done. It probably

1062
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get done, but I would say San Francisco

1063
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: just because to me, they have one of the most

1064
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: creative offensive minds over there in Shanahan, and I feel

1065
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: like Shanahan, after a couple of years, he could be considered,

1066
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, one of them offensive geniuses like Andy Reid.

1067
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: So I think if he took his talents over there

1068
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: to San Francisco with that bona fide running attack, it

1069
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: seems like no matter who's in the backfield, you got

1070
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Unt's Jeff Wilson back there, you got Tavin coleman Um,

1071
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: you got Mozart back there. Whoever's back there running the ball,

1072
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: they do it effectively and it would have put a

1073
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: lot of pressure off of the Shaw Watson. So if

1074
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: I think if he went out there and combined with Shanahan,

1075
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: I think that would be an immaculate, immaculate couple right there.

1076
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: But I highly highly doubt that's gonna happen. Um, so

1077
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: from my number two possible, and I think it's the

1078
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: most intriguing quarterback that could be on the move. To me,

1079
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: it's Big Ben out out in Pittsburgh. Um. To me,

1080
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: he came across if you guys listened a little bit

1081
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: today for his interview yesterday or today, one of the two,

1082
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: he came across to me as being kind of kind

1083
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: of begging for his job. I mean, like, this is

1084
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game

1085
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: in my opinion, But he's out there saying, you know,

1086
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'll take I'll take a pay cut. It

1087
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I'm paid, just you know, just give

1088
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: me one more shot at as a as a quarterback

1089
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And then if you've seen the

1090
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: Rooney's over there, they're saying, yeah, you know, you know,

1091
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: we would like to have Big Ben back, but these

1092
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: are gonna a lot of things are yeah, like it

1093
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: like not to change. But that's legitimate. I mean, you

1094
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: guys have been in this business song enough and you

1095
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: signed you know, you've seen contracts that forty one million

1096
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: dollars they put in there. You're never going to be paid.

1097
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: It was just something that the agent put in there

1098
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: to make it look good that he could send up

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00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: and say I got being an extension and paying blah

1100
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: blah blah. But they were never paying the forty one

1101
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: million dollars. And Rooney came out and said it, we

1102
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: ain't paying forty one million dollars. And I think, from

1103
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: what But if you're a big man, do you do

1104
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: you you beg for it like that? To me, I'm

1105
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: not doing that if I mean, this is a guy

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00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: that's a two times Super Bowl chant like, look, he

1107
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: ain't the same. I'm sorry, bro, he looked like he

1108
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: looked shot. Okay, he looked like a shot fighter this year. Okay.

1109
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: So and it's not after that surgery. This is just

1110
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: one year after that surgery. They say it takes two

1111
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: years to get back. So maybe I'm him. I'm not

1112
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: begging for the job like that, but but look I wouldn't.

1113
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: But they're telling you, hey, bro, we like you, but

1114
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: we don't like your forty one. But at this situation,

1115
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: you look at where the Steelers are at. Okay, they're

1116
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: up against the cap. Bud Dupree is a free agent.

1117
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: They've got it. They're now in that window. Where they

1118
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: can resign t J. Watt, Juju Smith Schuster is a

1119
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: free agent him they need a lesson. I'm just saying

1120
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: they've got serious contractual issues. And the lowest apparently according

1121
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: to Bob Graiziano esp and the lowest they could get

1122
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: Ben to is twenty three million dollars. So ask yourself,

1123
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: this is Ben Roethlisberger worth twenty three million dollars as

1124
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: a quarterback next year? Or can you move on and

1125
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: get a cheaper option? Can you go get a Andy Dalton,

1126
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: a Jameis Winston? Do you give up your number one

1127
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford who's making about twenty seventy million dollars?

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00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: So who would you rather have? Matt Stafford at twenty

1129
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: seven million or Ben Roethlisberger making twenty three? Possible are

1130
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: we saying? Are we saying Stafford and the number up

1131
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: there with big Ben Roethlisberger at this point, if you're

1132
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: telling me next year, I could have take those casts

1133
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: to eleven and old. I mean they took towards the end,

1134
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: but he did take If Pittsburgh, if Pittsburgh don't get

1135
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: a running game, it don't matter who they got out there,

1136
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: all right, They couldn't run the ball two yards, all right,

1137
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: So it don't matter who you got out the big

1138
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: baby throwing the ball sixty times. You know, Matthew Stafford

1139
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: and throw a sixty times. He ain't gonna win those games.

1140
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: They can't win that way. You're right, James, James Connor

1141
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: is a free agent. You need to upgrade your offensive linster.

1142
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: So there's a whole lot of issues there. But I'm sorry.

1143
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: I would I would. I would wave goodbye to been Roethlisberger,

1144
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: and if I'm a team out here, I wouldn't be

1145
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: signing him. He is passed. What you're going to get

1146
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: is almost what Indianapolis got out of Philip Rivers. He

1147
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: was okay, but Rivers couldn't take them over the top.

1148
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't have that ability anymore. These guys are like pictures.

1149
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: When in their prime they were throwing a ninety seven

1150
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: ninety eight, you couldn't touch it. Now they had lost

1151
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: five miles an hour. People are tagging that ball, and

1152
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: so now they got to be crafty with it. Some

1153
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: days they'll be good, some days they'll be bad. They're

1154
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: not what they used to be, and that's the problem.

1155
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: You're paying for a guy who's not what he used

1156
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: to be. And that's what the Steelers, in my opinion,

1157
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: should go ahead and say goodbye to. If he's not

1158
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: what he used to be, why are we gonna keep

1159
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: playing this game? Why we're gonna keep on doing this?

1160
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: So you don't think he even at twenty three mile,

1161
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: you wouldn't bring any back for one year. At twenty three,

1162
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: I'll give I'll bring him back with forty one is

1163
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: out of pocket. There's no way, there's no way in

1164
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: hell he's even near forty one. But but twenty three,

1165
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: at some point, I think they gave one more. At

1166
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: some point in time, you need to hit the reset, buddy,

1167
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: And okay, and I'm gonna go ahead and look at

1168
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: the Saints this year. Here's a team that tried to

1169
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: go one more year at Drew Brees. Now. I heard

1170
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: they were in conversations with Tom Brady and and what

1171
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: I was told was a Sean Payton really would have

1172
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: liked it had Tom Brady. But you know know, they kept

1173
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: going back and forth with Drew, and Drew kind of

1174
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: held him up. And then at this end Drew said, okay, fine,

1175
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. But they were looking to move

1176
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: on from Drew Brees. From what I was told from

1177
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: an inside who knows the organization very well, But what

1178
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: did we see from Drew last year? They could win

1179
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: some games, but this dude couldn't throw it down feeling

1180
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. To Bowler is like, man, this guy

1181
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: person he was hurt and this dude couldn't push the

1182
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: ball down to feel they sat on the routes. Ben

1183
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is a guy. Man, Look, I'm sorry. They're not

1184
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna win games and this dude he don't even throw

1185
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: it down to feel like he used to. You gotta

1186
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: start saying goodbye to these older dudes and move on, man,

1187
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: move on. If you're the Steelers, trade I will. I

1188
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: will trade up in the draft. I'll trade up in

1189
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: the draft and go get it, get one of these guys.

1190
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: But I would not be sitting up here trying to

1191
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: do this thing with with Ben roethlisbergers scause you end

1192
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: up like Philip Rivers and the Coast. These guys can't

1193
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: put you over the top. I know, I know you

1194
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: want to get on Drew Brees and not throwing it

1195
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: down the field, but they made deep threats. He had

1196
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. Man, they didn't get the ball down Emmanuel Sanders.

1197
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: They Immanuel Sanders ain't no true. He's not a true

1198
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: He's a route runner. That's what he's good at, running routes,

1199
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: just like Michael Thomas. They were set up to run

1200
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: to run quick game, short routes. Slanting Diggs. That that

1201
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: that that's the type of person on their head on

1202
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: the sad. They tried it one more They tried it

1203
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: one more time. They tried it one more time with him.

1204
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: They tried it one more time with Drew Brees and

1205
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: it didn't work. And now they're finally going to move

1206
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: on from him. But I just I just thought Drew

1207
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: Brees he I thought he had his run. I thought

1208
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers had his run. And now I'm of the

1209
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: opinion Ben Roethlisberger has had his run. But if people

1210
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: want to keep on running it back like giants, tried

1211
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: to show show me where it works with these guys

1212
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: that are older like this, in these late thirties. These dudes,

1213
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: are you looking at me like, hey man, he ain't

1214
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: got it into one. I mean, show me where it's

1215
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: working with some of these guys. Where you've seen cracks

1216
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: in their army. Tell me, tell me who it worked

1217
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: with outside of Tom Brady. But I think I think

1218
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: all big Ben knees Man is a solid running game man,

1219
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: and he has a solid running game like he did

1220
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: in his early part of his career. I think he can.

1221
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: I think he can take those guys, you know that,

1222
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: maybe even a distance, maybe even all the way. But

1223
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: I just don't think he can do it on his

1224
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: own anymore. I don't think he can just use his

1225
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: arm strength to will a team um to that, to that,

1226
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: to that top of the mountain. I think he needs

1227
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: help around him, and I think he needs a solid

1228
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: running game. But at twenty three if if you can

1229
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: get him at twenty three mill with a good running game,

1230
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: I think you do it. I think you give it

1231
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: one more goal. No, man, you just gave it one

1232
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: more goal. And that's the thing. You know, he's coming

1233
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: up shoulders certain, Yeah, we got one more goal. You

1234
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: just gave it one more go and it didn't go

1235
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: the way you wanted to. So so now you're saying,

1236
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: let's try it one more time, then you're gonna be

1237
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: the Saints. Well they tried it one more time with

1238
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: with with Drew Brees. Sooner or later, you're gonna have

1239
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: to just say, hey man, we gotta go get somebody.

1240
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: We gotta go get somebody. Maybe you move up in

1241
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: the draft. You keep him at twenty three, and maybe

1242
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: you move up in the draft and get your quarterback

1243
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: so you can be that bridge guy. Maybe he'll be

1244
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: that bridge guy who knows that. I say, you give

1245
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: him think so, chur Church. Remember when you were growing

1246
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: up and they kept giving or else Steward one more time.

1247
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: You know he had that great slash year. They kept

1248
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: on trying to find that slash here one more time,

1249
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: they say, and they said, you know what, man, we're

1250
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna go draft a quarterback. And they drafted big then.

1251
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: So at some point time, man, you gotta stop trying

1252
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: to hey man, maybe one more time this our teams.

1253
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: Do I know he get this? I knew like once

1254
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: you get close to the end of the show this,

1255
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: I knew he get man. He started talking about crazy

1256
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: and talked about nights on, about cut Steward. You know, Stewart,

1257
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: it's a big Ben Roethlinisburger vacame. We all an hour, Yes,

1258
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 1: we're at We're over an hour here, Christ Chris Bean

1259
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: has things to do here on a Friday, all right,

1260
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: Danny McCray, Barry Church, fun fun conversations always. We will

1261
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: be back next week here on the players line that

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Speaker 1: throwing out our opinions and such. But let us just

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Speaker 1: be known that Danny McCrae and I are on board

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Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott over uh Matthew Stafford and the church

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Speaker 1: for some reason in love with matt Stafford. But this

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Speaker 1: is a conversation. We'll continue, Watson or you gonna leave

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Speaker 1: out de Shaun Watson too, and and and Church. She's

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Speaker 1: also in there for Deshaun Watson. Danny and I are

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Speaker 1: there for Dak Prescott. So we're all good. Just like

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Speaker 1: the picks last week, Baby, I'm going out staff And

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Speaker 1: what about this and the And what I said about

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Speaker 1: Stafford was, hey, I say you do your homework on it.

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Speaker 1: I say you don't go ahead and pull the trigger

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Speaker 1: or nothing like that. You just do your homework on it.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying with Stafford. But Deshaun Watson call

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Speaker 1: it a day where I signed up. Man, what I'm

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Speaker 1: paid for the paperwork out? Man? Give me a pen,

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Speaker 1: Give me a pen. What do they think the twenty ninth, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: January twenty nine, right, all right, all right, everybody, thanks

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Speaker 1: for checking us out. We'll see you next month, right

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Speaker 1: here on the play last goodbye. This has been a

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