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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. The

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Speaker 1: Dream Team. Let's clear this up. The Dream Team was

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Speaker 1: supposed to take the best eleven NBA players. It was

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Speaker 1: the best twelve players. They ended up taking eleven NBA

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Speaker 1: players and they took Christian Layner. Yes, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people believe that Isaiah Thomas was one of the best

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Speaker 1: eleven NBA players. A lot of people believe Charles he

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Speaker 1: was better than John Stockton. I think he was a

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Speaker 1: better player than Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Then why didn't he get to go on the team.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Shannah, number one, that is an amazing

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Speaker 1: question because I'm so glad I get a chance to

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Speaker 1: straighten it out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, please straighten it out. Number one.

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Speaker 1: They never asked me about Isaiah Thomas, okay, and it

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Speaker 1: just came out and I can't speak for the other guys,

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Speaker 1: but they never asked me personally about Isaiah Thomas, and

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas probably should have been on the team. And

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Speaker 1: they asked Michael Jordan did he have anything to do

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Speaker 1: with it? And then it actually just came out in

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Speaker 1: the last year where he said I'll play as long

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Speaker 1: as I say don't so, and then you got to

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Speaker 1: have him. But you're going over the seat. You got

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Speaker 1: to take the biggest guy. So I don't notice personally,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was Jack McCallum who said he

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Speaker 1: had it on tape and he played it because I've

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Speaker 1: been asked that question a thousand times due they never

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Speaker 1: asked me about Isaiah Thomas, but.

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Speaker 2: Apparently Michael didn't want him on the team. Was on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whoever, Michael, they want them team. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to be on the team. But I will tell you something, man,

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Speaker 1: I've been so lucky and blessed in my life. Ain't

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Speaker 1: nothing like the Olympics. It's the most cool event that

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Speaker 1: I've ever been to. I didn't we had no idea

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Speaker 1: because I tell people that was probably a twelve foot window,

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Speaker 1: maybe fifteen feet where they could see us get on

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Speaker 1: the bus. Man, it was five to ten thousand people

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Speaker 1: out there every day just to get a glimpse of us,

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Speaker 1: mainly obviously Michael, Magic and Bird even though Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: they were just screamed to watch these guys walked. And

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Speaker 1: then when we took off, there was a helicopter above

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Speaker 2: There was people along the highway holding up signs.

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Speaker 1: It was and we we're like, whoa, this is some

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Speaker 1: real here. This is a real deal. And we were like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: not even close. Nobody did. We had no idea. We like,

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Speaker 1: I mean concerns though, you know, we never really experienced

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Speaker 1: this is a big deal. I mean peop us on

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Speaker 1: the highway holding up signs, hundreds of them. But when

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. Uh but it was. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was. It's a more. But being at the Olympics

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Speaker 1: when when they're playing that national anthem and with me

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Speaker 2: I mean it was, it was. It was surreal.

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Speaker 1: You do realize what you guys did is that you

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Speaker 1: birthed an era, the Nicola Jokichi, Yeah, the Luka Danjis yea.

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Speaker 2: Those guys came.

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Speaker 1: They saw they probably wasn't born then, but their parents

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Speaker 2: The dirt and the biscuits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the page because at the time, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: the only guy that I can remember end that there

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Speaker 2: There were only a handful.

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Speaker 1: It's not littered like and I don't mean that in

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Speaker 1: a nagative term, but it wasn't the influx or four

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the great late David Stern. I think

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Speaker 1: that was his vision, to be honest, to make the

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Speaker 1: game international right. And when I it was really funny,

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Speaker 1: Like the first time I met Dirt Nobisky. Uh, he

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Speaker 2: He's like, I got him, I got him, got finished

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Speaker 1: You ain't got his guy, And I said, yo, man,

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Speaker 1: who the hell are you? He got that Dick German,

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Speaker 2: I said, eighteen, you want to go to Auburn. I says,

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Speaker 2: just name your price. We're good.

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Speaker 1: He's like what he said, I want you to go

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Speaker 1: because he said something. He says, I got to go

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Speaker 1: in the army. I said, yo, man, you see hi

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Speaker 1: going in the army. Nobody going out, no sell foot

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Speaker 1: a month later. I said, chuck, you know they changed

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Speaker 1: I said, okay. And you know people don't even realize this.

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Speaker 1: You know, he didn't get drafted by the maps. He

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Speaker 1: and I apologize to his family. It's probably going to

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Speaker 1: go down one of the worst trades in NBA history

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Speaker 1: because they traded for Robert Tractor. Trailer. It did, and

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Speaker 1: Trailer was a nice kid. Rest in peace. But that's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna go down. That's a bad trade because Dirk's

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Speaker 1: up until to Joker, he was the greatest foreign player ever, right,

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Speaker 1: and when the Joker finished, you would taking him over

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Speaker 1: king did play on American so well. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: these guys can't. Yeah, the NBA shout out that Kim.

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Speaker 1: It was an honor and privilege to play with him also,

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Speaker 1: but listen, by the time, the best foreign born player, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's over the past.

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Speaker 2: Dirt, he passed Dirt. It's over it.

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Speaker 1: Listen because you know, I they might. I think they're

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Speaker 1: watching him? I fought his career since he obviously I

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Speaker 1: watched Anthony Davis gave it to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but now it's over. He's on a different jump. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy can give you thirty twenty if fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Like there's nothing he can't do well offensively.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Like last night, Yes, we were making a big deal

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Speaker 1: because Aaron Gardon played fantastic, Yes, fantastic. Jamal Murray played great,

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Speaker 1: and then we were looking at the stats last night,

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Speaker 1: We're like, yo, man, the Joker had twenty four fifteen

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Speaker 1: And we did and we didn't miss him on thirteen shots.

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Speaker 1: We did not even miss him. We made a big deal.

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Speaker 1: We interviewed Aaron Gardon because he had career hiding points

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Speaker 1: that people never talk about, Steph Curry and Joker. If

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Speaker 1: Yes, and most people got mad they traded Monte because

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Speaker 1: Steph was always hurt her. And same thing with Joker Nurkic. Yep,

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Speaker 1: and this guy is gonna be about to get his

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Speaker 1: thirty years. Yes, those do you talk about changing the

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Speaker 1: entire dynamics of your franchise of history. That's amazing that, like,

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Speaker 1: we made the right decision and yo win the second round.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: But they had to make that decision and the same

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Speaker 1: thing because they knew that Monte Ellis and Steff that

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Speaker 1: you can't play too little guards like that, and people

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Speaker 1: were mad on both accounts.

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Speaker 2: That's how crazy this this is.

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Speaker 1: Chuck the Athletic had a pole and this guy has

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Speaker 1: been winning most Overrated for like the last five years,

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Speaker 1: and that's Rudy Gobert.

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Speaker 2: Why does Rudy get so much flat?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that we don't we won't we don't

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Speaker 2: But you know, I love ESPN, love ESPN.

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Speaker 1: We don't show block shots unless it's after thatwards shot

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Speaker 2: We never showed defense.

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Speaker 1: We show guys making shots and dunking like Espen is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, But in a two hour game,

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Speaker 1: if they The highlights of the game lasts longer.

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Speaker 1: Right, They ain't showing Rudy Gobert blocking shots or changing shots.

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Speaker 2: Woby, Now, Woby, we're showing winby blocking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because but but they gonna show him making

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Speaker 1: seldom talk about defensive players because defense isn't pretty like

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Speaker 1: unless Michael Parson's making a sack of something. One of

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Speaker 1: the Bosa brothers, Hutchison in Detroit, Aaron Donald, who's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Aaron Donald, man, it's been an honor

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Speaker 1: and the privilege to watch you play. But we only

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Speaker 1: show offense. Yeah, because now it's an offensive era.

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't let you play football like they had when

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Speaker 1: they had buckets and they had alt or Ray Lewis's

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Speaker 1: or the running loss that were decapitating people out there.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to show that side of the game

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Speaker 1: because they're trying to clean it up and said, look,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to stay away from you know, we want

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Speaker 1: to make the game safer. But you want to see

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Speaker 1: all these one handed You go see every one handed

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Speaker 1: catch that happens on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You go see that.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see that the greatest This is the greatest

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Speaker 1: player of all time. It seems to be a two

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Speaker 1: Kareem is the most underrated player in the history of

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Yes, he's the He was the all time

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Speaker 1: She said. The second thing is, no matter what you

433
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: do for them, the first time you tell them no,

434
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: they hate you.

435
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: And I said what?

436
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: And I had to learn it. People have been giving

437
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: money to the first time I told them no, they're

438
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, we're not friends anymore. That was

439
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: a tough and painful lesson for me. It absolutely is,

440
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: because that's why you have to put limits on what

441
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: you give, because they'll never put limits on.

442
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: What they take. That's exactly right. But it's like that

443
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: with anything.

444
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: Charles, you and I can go out here right now,

445
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: we can sign twenty five thousand autographs, but if we

446
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: don't sign twenty five thousand and one and Charles Barklay

447
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: told but I had to learn that too. I'll sign

448
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: some autographs, but I'm like, yo, I'm done. You okay,

449
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm good. It don't affect me anymore because you know,

450
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: like I said, somebody said earlier, everybody wants to be like, yes,

451
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: because everybody here, guys, I don't care what people think

452
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: about me. Yes, you do stop being you care like,

453
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: especially if it's like if they don't have a reason.

454
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: Now that's different, but everybody wants to be like But

455
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: you can't make everybody happy, can, Like I say, after games,

456
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: I would stop and sign. I had a rude I

457
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: signed ten and it's twenty people. I said, guys, I

458
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: gotta go get something neat. I said, I'm gonna sign ten.

459
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: That's it. And they're saying some stuff when you leave.

460
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: But you're like, okay, we're good. I don't feel bad.

461
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: I signed ten. I did what I was supposed to do.

462
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it moving. Who you MVP this year? Well,

463
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: there's five guys I think you can vote for and

464
00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: feel like you ain't screwing anybody. Shay Gilders because they

465
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: got the best record in the West, Joker, Jalen Bronson

466
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: and Edwards and Luca. I think you can because the

467
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: one thing I will say that ESPN annoys me about.

468
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: First of all, they make up these fake stories about

469
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: m v P. The m v PS never went to

470
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: the best player. Never, it goes to the best player

471
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: on the best team. Because nobody in their right mind

472
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: thinks Steve Nation is better than Shaq and Kobe. But

473
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: they had the best record season record when he won MVP,

474
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: he deserved it. Steve Nasts deserve MVP. Michael Jordan was

475
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: the best player before he started winning m VPS, but

476
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: until he started winning, he wasn't gonna get m VPS.

477
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: Uh So I hate that argument. Like I said, if

478
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: you vote for any of those guys, I was like,

479
00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: that's fair. Like dere Rose wanted one year over Lebron,

480
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: he deserved it. The Bulls had the best record that year.

481
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: Was he as good a player as Lebron? No, but

482
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: they had a better record. The same thing with even

483
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: KD who's a great player. He won MVP, they had

484
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: the best recordect year. But it always normally goes like

485
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: I said, if you vote for shay A Luca a joker.

486
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: But I actually think what Bronson did this year for

487
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: the Knicks was incredible. Yes, to get them to the

488
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 1: second seed without Robinson being out most of the year,

489
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: with that Rondo most of the year, Og was out

490
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: for a period of time. But what Luca did, so

491
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: it's this is you know, I think me and Magic

492
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: had the closest vote ever. I think this is one

493
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: going to be the closest one ever. Wow. Who's your

494
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: favorite non NBA athlete?

495
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: That's a great question. It depends on the sport.

496
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Like in golf right now, my favorite player is probably

497
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: Max Homer because he seems like a great kid and

498
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: he tries, he doesn't take himself that serious. In football,

499
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: it's Aaron Donald, who just retired. In baseball, it's probably

500
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: Mike Trout. In tennis, Robbie Shelton, I think that's his name, Shelton.

501
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: I forget, It's just there's another golfer named Shelton. I

502
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: get him confused sometimes, But I mean, I just love

503
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: sports because sportsman.

504
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: I have zero idea or I would be in my

505
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 2: life without that stupid little round ball, because it has

506
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: did so much for me.

507
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: Like I said, you grew up and grew up in

508
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: a town of a couple thousand people. I have been

509
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: all over the world. I'm sitting here on club Shaysha, Like,

510
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: if it not for that basketball, it has given me

511
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: every single thing in my life. I'm so lucky and

512
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: appreciative because I have. Like I was able to be

513
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: ald my mother and grandmother house, I was able to

514
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: send my brother's kids to college. I have been I mean,

515
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been all over the world because of

516
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: the stupid little basketball. And I can make up something

517
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: where I would be without basketball, but it probably, if

518
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm really it won't be damn sure won't be as good.

519
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it'll be pretty because I'm

520
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: not gonna get up here and saying like act like

521
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: I was a great student. I'd be working somewhere, you know,

522
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: and you know, doing something with me. Yeah, but man,

523
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: that ball. I mean, I'm pretty sure you know all

524
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: the success you've had as a player in an entertainment industry, like.

525
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: It's all originated from that. Yeah, yes, And we're so lucky.

526
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Because you know what I tell people all the time,

527
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: I admire people who got a real job, but I

528
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: don't want one.

529
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 2: No, growing up, growing up, like how we grew up, yall.

530
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: It let me know what I didn't want to do

531
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: as an adult, because if it's breaking up a child,

532
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: can you imagine an adult doing that for twelve and

533
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: fourteen hours a day.

534
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: And no, and not even making money.

535
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: No. No.

536
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I was like, because people say, what do you think about?

537
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: Sometime during the game, I said, I said, when I

538
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: get tired, I think about. Man, if you don't get

539
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: some energy from somewhere, nine to five don't sound good. No,

540
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: nine to five don't sound good at all. I never

541
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: want to work nine to five. I mean, I said,

542
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: I said, I admire people who work now, and especially

543
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: like when you're seeing somebody doing I shouldn't say that

544
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: doing somebody's.

545
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: Doing the job. You're like, damn working two jobs.

546
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when I see somebody like when I'm when

547
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm in Phoenix is like one hundred and fifteen degrees

548
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: and I said, are they working outside? I'm like, oh,

549
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: hell no, no. Or you see somebody working in the

550
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: winter and it's cold, he're like, damn right, I says, WHOA,

551
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad I handled my business. How many more years

552
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: you think Lebron's gonna play? And can he continue to play?

553
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he averaged twenty five, eight and seven and

554
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: you're twenty one. How many more years can he play?

555
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: And how many more years can he be played at

556
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: the level of which he's currently playing. I hope he

557
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: retires soon because I hated the way I retired because

558
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: I sucked. Nope, Jim Brown is really and he retired

559
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to got tired of playing football

560
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: and he didn't he wanted to act. Yes, he's like

561
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: because he wasn't making the money and he didn't want

562
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: to just kill itself.

563
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: There's no It is badly for every jock. It is

564
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: badly for every job getting in as easy as to

565
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: get it out.

566
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and your ego says you can still do it

567
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: because I remember telling myself my last two years, Okay,

568
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get myself in great shape this summer, I'm

569
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna have a good year, then I'm gonna retire. Then

570
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: I figured out, like playing against air, everybody's good against air.

571
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Everybody is great against air. But when you see another

572
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: when that twenty five year old is looking at you

573
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: like licking his lips, You're like, oh, and like there's

574
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: nothing you can do, Like when you're working out during

575
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: the summer and ain't nobody playing defense on you and

576
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: you in great shape. And but when you see that

577
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: twenty five twenty seven year old and he's looking at

578
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: you like, yep, I used to watch you. I'm coming

579
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: for you, and there's nothing you can do about it.

580
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I hope he retires while

581
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: he can still play, because man, I've been there myself.

582
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I saw Patrick ewing his last legs, saw Michael Jordan

583
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: playing with the Wizards.

584
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick, I mean, I mean Patrick and Orlando.

585
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the greatest player I played against.

586
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him doing that with the Wizards.

587
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: So uh, I don't want to see any great play

588
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: when they passed that prime. How do you navigate because

589
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: you were a great player, you won MVP, you went

590
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and you played when two gold medals? How do you

591
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: navigate y'all when you offer a critique or criticism of

592
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: a current NBA great.

593
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: And they shoot back, well, you ain't never won anything.

594
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: What did you do this? And what did you do that?

595
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: How do you navigate that?

596
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Well?

597
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: You can't be able to dish it and take it.

598
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: The one thing I'm really proud of, and I hang

599
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: my hat on this, I've never been personal with a player.

600
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: I only stick to basketball. I only stick to basketball.

601
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: I would never come in on a guy's personal life. Now,

602
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: sometimes they get in trouble. I have to say something.

603
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: You have to, but I have I can. I can

604
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: look at a guy and say, hey man, because I

605
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: get calls all the time from players and agents. I said,

606
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I said that, and they're like, okay,

607
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: I said, I said, this is what pissed me off too,

608
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Shannon Yo.

609
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Man, Why y'all never called me when I said some positives?

610
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: I said, wait a.

611
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Minute, I said nine great things about you. Why do

612
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: you never call me when I said some positive and

613
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: I say one critique and you blow up my phone

614
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: calling me names. I had to sting with Kobe Bryant

615
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: one night. So it was a game where he wouldn't

616
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: shoot right gets Feeni Game seven. I think grata because

617
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: you guys told me we shoot too much. Well, he

618
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: was trying to prove a point. Yes, I ain't got

619
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: no help, so he wouldn't. He went the whole second

620
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: half of shot one time and I and I answer

621
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: ag him. I said, Ernest said what I said, Man,

622
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed. Kobe. He was trying

623
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: to prove a point that he didn't have any help.

624
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: He shot one time in the second half. And you

625
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: know at that time they were compared to Michael, I said,

626
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: Michael when he played against the Celtics. He's like, I

627
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: got to get six or something.

628
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: I don't get it. Whatever.

629
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: He not gonna pout. Kobe starts texting me you mother,

630
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: you mother. I said, yo, man, I'm doing my job,

631
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: but you such a talk. We go back and forth

632
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: for so about this time, it's about one in the morning.

633
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: We go back and forth for like two hours. I said, yo, man,

634
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call me and stop texting me.

635
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: And it was it was. It was great.

636
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: We laughed about it later. He was mad at the moment.

637
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: He understand I'm just doing my job, but it was

638
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: so funny. We text each other for two hours and

639
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: it was just Mother told me, I'm and I'm just like,

640
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get get mad at dude, that's a dude,

641
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: call me pick up the phone. But it was hilarious.

642
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: We laughed about it later. I'm gonna get you out

643
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: of here this, Charles. This is the first time in

644
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: a very long time that people that's in our position

645
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: have had to comment on the discourse. Sometimes that's what's

646
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: going on in America. We see the Trayvon Martin, we

647
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: see the George Floyd, we see what happened in in Wisconsin,

648
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you and I we

649
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: have to comment on that. Where when you played and

650
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: I played politics, religion, orientation, we talked about that might

651
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: be maybe mentioned that in the locker room, without the

652
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: media or without the purview of the public hearing about it.

653
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: How do you navigate knowing that you came from Alabama,

654
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: knowing that what goes on in America that sometimes there's racism,

655
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: sometimes it's racist, how do you navigate navigate your conversation

656
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: that you disseminate to the public. That's a really good question,

657
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: because I'm asked that sometime with my boys. The first

658
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: thing is it's exhausting being black. Yes, it's exhausting being black,

659
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Like we're trying to live our lives be successful. Then

660
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Travon Martin happened. We got to talk about it. Unfortunately,

661
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: that was a really awful situation. Then we get back

662
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: in our routine. Then George Floyd's happened, we got to

663
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: talk about it.

664
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: You know.

665
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: You know, I was talking to Sam Jackson one time.

666
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: He like, he's like, I'm trying to make a movie.

667
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: They asked me like three year, like nobody got nominated

668
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: for an Oscar. So as a black person, something always

669
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: coming up for me personally is I said, I have

670
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: to like take a step back because the one thing

671
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: you can't do is yell and scream because once you

672
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: yelling scream, they're like, turn it off, turn it off.

673
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: And I say, guys, let's have a serious conversation. But

674
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: I need you to be I need you my girl,

675
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: Judge Judy. I'm a big judge Judy. She always says,

676
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: you're listening, but you're not hearing me. I said, I

677
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: need you to hear me. Don't listen to me, hear me.

678
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: Those are two different things. Listen to understand. Yes, and

679
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm not hey and I'm not mad at you, but

680
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: I need you to understand this is happening. And it's

681
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: just exhausting being black because every time you're trying to

682
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: do your thing or just live your life, something racist

683
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: or sure happens. I try to do this one thing.

684
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: I try to like, don't ever speak when you're mad.

685
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Don't yell and scream, because I know if I yell

686
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: at you, you're gonna ignore me. You're gonna turn me

687
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: off for ignore me. So for me and you and

688
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Steven and Mike wilbon Man, I need y'all to trust

689
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: me because sometimes people play the race card when it's

690
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: not playable, because then you become the guy who's.

691
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: Gonna cry wolf all the time.

692
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: The one thing I promised T and T when I

693
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: took this job, because I told him the social stuff

694
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: is really important to me.

695
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: It's really important to me.

696
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I said, I won't beat you over the head with

697
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: it all the time, because if I beat you over

698
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: the head with all the time, they're gonna like, I'm

699
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: not gonna watch.

700
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Pretty soon you become desensitized. Yes, it's not gonna have

701
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: the same impact.

702
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, if every time something happened, gonna talk

703
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: about race or something like that. And I think I've

704
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: done a good job. I says, I want to talk

705
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: about this. I want to talk about this, but I

706
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: think we have to be very selective.

707
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: I do.

708
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: I think we have to be very selective because man,

709
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: racials have them all the time, for sure, all the time.

710
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: And I want people to see, like Shannon Charles steven A,

711
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: they gonna be fair and balanced.

712
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: That's it, that's all.

713
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: So that's the only thing I try to do in

714
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: this situation, Like, yo, man, Chuck, ain't just trying to

715
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: play race or trying to stir it up or be

716
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: a victim, I says, because because the one thing you

717
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: have to always say, like sometimes black people are wrong.

718
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: And then I know I'm gonna be an Uncle Tom.

719
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a sellout. I said, listen, man, those

720
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: words don't bother me. We don't have to agree with

721
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: all black people. We don't, but they think we do. Yes,

722
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: they think we do. I say, Yo, man, sometimes black

723
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: people are wrong and it's okay, it's okay, and it's

724
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: okay to say they're wrong. But no, but if you're

725
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: a black person in our position, look at that Uncle Tom,

726
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: look at that cell out. I'm like, yo, man, we

727
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: can be wrong. And that goes back to we talked

728
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: about earlier. I always want to uplift black people. Correct always,

729
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: I want like, I'm proud of your success. And I

730
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: know people gonna hate on you. I know people gonna

731
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: hate on me, and they're gonna be black. I said,

732
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: but man, I love to see black people doing good.

733
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: I love it.

734
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm old enough and I'm around

735
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: enough to know there's gonna be some hate coming towards me,

736
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: especially if they disagree with Somebody say, but I want

737
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: you to win, but I don't want you win more

738
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: than me. I say, if you win more, if you

739
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: win more than me. Now I got to question your sexuality.

740
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: I got a you know how black are you? Because bro,

741
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, man, I mean, I criticized white quarterbacks,

742
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: but if I criticize a black quarterback, man, see, I

743
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: should have known old.

744
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: Buck Nancy Channe. I know he he gonna keep, he

745
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 2: gonna take care.

746
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Of the man.

747
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: And number one, I've been watching for a long time. Obviously,

748
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: I never seeing you.

749
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Try to get clickbait. Ever, no, I said, O, man,

750
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: I take I take this responsibility because I do know.

751
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna tell black people they right all

752
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: the time.

753
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: If you want that you're wrong, You're wrong.

754
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I tell you.

755
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: I said, yo, man, no, no, no, no, we can

756
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 2: be wrong.

757
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: But but also on the other hand, when I see

758
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: something happen to the black a black player in the community,

759
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step in. You know. I had a you know,

760
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: it was interesting. There's a couple of things happened recently

761
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: that I talked of my mentors and friends about. One

762
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: was OJ Simpson and one was Michael Porter Jr. And

763
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not sure how to handle this OJA thing.

764
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: He said, what do you think? I said, Man, I

765
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: don't have any respect for men who hit women, and

766
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: I think he killed them two people. I says, what

767
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: do you think he killed those people or not? I

768
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: think he did. I said, but I have and I've

769
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: always said this, and I just say this to you.

770
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: I have no respect for men who hit women. And

771
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to bash the dude.

772
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: Because he got a family and he died, he got kids.

773
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: And I said, you know what, I'm not even gonna

774
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: mention it.

775
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: And I didn't because I said, I don't want to

776
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: just bash the dude because I can't say anything positive.

777
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: Was he a great job? Yes, but when you go

778
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: around beating women and like that, I just cann't. I

779
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: got no respect for you. And then the Michael Porter

780
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: Junior thing, but the WNBA no no, Michael Porter oh

781
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: oh by his brother Yeah, both brothers, broh. Yeah, one

782
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: got a d UI and I think he killed somebody, right,

783
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: he did. He killed somebody, and the other brother took

784
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the under on himself.

785
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel I feel his pain. I feel

786
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: his parents' pain.

787
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

788
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: I feel that as a job because it and this

789
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: is the one thing I look at sports. It's the

790
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: greatest fraternity ever. I feel like everybody the NFL, anybody,

791
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: anybody Mains League Baseball and the NHL hockey. I think

792
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: they're part of my family, like like they know my experiences.

793
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: And so I was saying, man, I really want to

794
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: wish Michael Porter Jr. Let him know that I'm thinking

795
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: about him. I wish his family the best. And my

796
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: friend says, yih man that lady did die, And I

797
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you got a point there, like because

798
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: if I said, hey, man, I wish you the best,

799
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about you. Because I noticed that it's got

800
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: to be painful for his family with his brother and

801
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: his other brother going to jail for that.

802
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: Family that lost their loved one.

803
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: Yes, And because he can go to jail and hug him, Yeah,

804
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: he can go to his brother's home and hug him. Yeah,

805
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: they can't go to the graveyard. And I said, Chuck

806
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: shut up on both accounts. So I always think about

807
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: because you know, it always makes me laugh because my

808
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: friend's like, yo, man, you got these people eating out

809
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 1: your head. I said, what you're talking about? He says,

810
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: you know the reaction before you say it. I says,

811
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: of course I do. I know when I'm gonna start

812
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: a fire. I know it because but I had planned

813
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: on thet because most of the time that goes back

814
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: to the road model commercial I made.

815
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: Yes.

816
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: Yes, So when I made the commercial, I went to

817
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: night cause I want to make this commercial. I said,

818
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: They're like, you go to your mind. I said no.

819
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: I said, what I'm noticing is we have too many

820
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: segregated schools in this country. I said. When I go

821
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: to these white schools, I said, what do y'all want

822
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: to do when you grow up?

823
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: They like want to be doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers. When

824
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: I go to these black schools, they're like I want

825
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. I want to play the NBA.

826
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: And I was doing this when you cause you do

827
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: a lot of speaking when you're planning. So I was

828
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: doing this for like four or five years, and I

829
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: was like, yo, man, these black kids think thinking to

830
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: only be successful to you after like the entertainment. They

831
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: don't never think about being doctors, lawyers and engineers and

832
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: like that. So I talked Nike into doing the commercial

833
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: and it became a big deal. You did still probably

834
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: the thing I'm most proud of to this day. I said,

835
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: cause I knew it was going to start a fire.

836
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, guys, I'm not trying to skirt responsibility,

837
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: but I want young black kids to know, like, yo, man,

838
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: you don't have to play in the NFL, the NBA.

839
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: We got black doctors, we got black lawyers, we got

840
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: black engineers. But y'all got these kids thinking like all

841
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: they see is Shannon Michael, Carl Chuck, David Robinson. The

842
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: only black people they see are jocks and enteritate jay z.

843
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: I said, man, they got a better chance of being

844
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: a doctor and the lawyer playing it. Yes, And I said,

845
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: I just want to spark the debate and in fairness,

846
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: and Nike and Naki came back to me later and says, man,

847
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: we want to thank you for making that commercial. I said,

848
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: And I said, because ninety of the letters we got

849
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: were pro. I said, well, first of all, I'm not

850
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: worried about the negative. Bless well, blessed. I play in Philly,

851
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: I said, I thought my name was Charles Barkley, your

852
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: mother the first two years of my I said, I said, guys,

853
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm in Philly. I'm used to criticism, but I always

854
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: have used my platform for a bigger debate. I'm trying

855
00:45:59,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: to make a difference.

856
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: You know. One of the things. I'm proud of you.

857
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: And I don't talk about this a lot, and I'm

858
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: not trying to get praised because I keep it very quiet.

859
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: So for the last fifteen years, I've been giving a

860
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: million dollars a year away to charity and I don't

861
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: even tell anybody. I just I'm sharing. It's good because

862
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm gona tell you why I'm proud of you. So

863
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: I started out in my high school, my college Wounded

864
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: Warriors als Parkinson's. But the last eight years, the point

865
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting to I did HBC US it means a

866
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: great deal to me to be able to do that,

867
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: and you being a product when I watch you and

868
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: Steve and A when y'all go back to y'all hbc USED,

869
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: I just think it's really important what y'all to do

870
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: for the hpc USED And it really makes me feel

871
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: good when I write that check because you know, we

872
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: got a couple of them here in Atlanta. I think

873
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: three of them here in Atlanta, Clark Morehouse and Spelmen.

874
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: But man, I just want to use my platform to

875
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: keep doing good stuff. But you know, just being a

876
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: product of HPCU, how far you came, I'm really proud

877
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: of your success.

878
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

879
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is what that does is

880
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: that you think about three of the most prominent morning voices,

881
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: myself and stephen A, Michael straighthand which is HBCU. He's

882
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: a Texas Southern, I'm Savannah State, stephen A's Winston Salem.

883
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: So it show it goes to show you you don't

884
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: have to go to Syracuse, you don't have to go

885
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: to Michigan on one of the pwi's in order to

886
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: do what we're doing.

887
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: Because we're living proof of that.

888
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: I think the thing also that role model for me,

889
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: I was very, very fortunate because every role model I

890
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: had was in my house, my brother, my grandfather, my grandmother.

891
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: So I didn't look athletes didn't because I saw them

892
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: every day. You see somebody jumping up and down on

893
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: the basketball court and catching the football. You really don't

894
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: know that person. You know what that person does. I

895
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: knew what they did. I mean, you know the sport

896
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: they play. I saw my brother every day, I saw

897
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: my grandfather and my grandmother. So that's when I followed

898
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: my brother around. So I wanted to be just like him. Yeah,

899
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, if I could be like

900
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: him or my sister. It drove my sister crazy, y'alls

901
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: because she was like, she's going to be your own man,

902
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: why you want to be like him? But as I

903
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: got older and I remember telling I said everything I want,

904
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: everything I want to be is yeah, well what's crazy

905
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: about it? And you know this, And unless you've been

906
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: in pro sports, you don't know this. Man, there's so

907
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: many poles.

908
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: In our sport.

909
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: Like, all you gotta do is be nice to the

910
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: press and they gonna write good stuff about you.

911
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

912
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: In my I've been in this thing for forty years.

913
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: Over forty years, some of the worst people I've ever

914
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: met got the best reputations because they're great with the press. Yes,

915
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: and some of the some of the people who got

916
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: the worst reputation of some of the best dudes in

917
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: the world. And I said, and it's all dictated. If

918
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: you're nice to reporters and they got access to you,

919
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: they gonna be right. Oh, he is the greatest guy.

920
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: And I tell people, I said, Man, you don't know

921
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: these guys at all, right, And it drives me crazy,

922
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I said, I says, if you got it always, I says,

923
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: there's a reason you're going to keep everything in the

924
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: locker room. You don't want to know what's going on.

925
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, Man, this dude got the best reputation.

926
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: He's the worst person I've ever been around. Charles, How

927
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: have you been able to keep.

928
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: You a husband? Father? How have you ever been? How

929
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: have you been able to keep that so hush? Well?

930
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: Because I I was. It was not a good husband.

931
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: And I want to be better next time I do. Uh,

932
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: I have been. Uh, my daughter, it's been the best

933
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: thing ever happened to me. But the next stage in

934
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: my life I think I got to be better. I

935
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: do need to be better. But because I didn't know,

936
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to be a good husband or

937
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: father because you didn't have you, because your father was away,

938
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: he wasn't in the home. He wasn't a good father.

939
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: And I just need to be better, and I hope

940
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: to be better next time. I would ask you this

941
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: because this is something you know, Mike, Mike, have there's

942
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: a situation. Michael's son, Marcus was I don't know if

943
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: he currently still is dating Scotty's ex wife. Yeah, how

944
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: would you feel if a teammate of yours dated your daughter?

945
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Would you feel some type of way? Hell yeah, hell yeah?

946
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: That is a really I feel bad for Michael. I

947
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: feel bad for Scotty. Yes, that is so messy. I

948
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: don't like messy because when it's messy, everybody has an

949
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: opinion on it. Everybody has an opinion. And you know,

950
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: the internet is not a place for messy. No, And

951
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: you have to understand it's a lot of kids involved, yes,

952
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: and people are mean. People are mean, and it's unfortunate.

953
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: You know.

954
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: I just got into social media because I didn't want

955
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: to be around the meanness. And I feel bad for

956
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: everybody involved because I see all the pictures. I don't

957
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: do the comment stuff, but I know they're gonna be mean, right,

958
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: But it's just I just hate messy, and it's just

959
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: really messy.

960
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: And there are no winners.

961
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: There's only losers because obviously Michael and Scottish relationship can't

962
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: ever be the same. Did you know was it the

963
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: last dance when Michael put that that because he wasn't

964
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: there at the time, when Scotty refused to go in

965
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: the game and he inserted that until the last dance?

966
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: Did you always know that that Scotty and Michael had

967
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: this kind of contingous relationship because from the outside it

968
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: like it looked pretty good.

969
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

970
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: I was surprised it was so bad. I was surprised.

971
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: But in Faraday, I spent a ton of time with

972
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: those guys together. I spent a lot more time with Michael,

973
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: a lot more time with Michael. Uh. You know, it's

974
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: just a sad situation because I think if you not

975
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: that I know, but you know, if you win a

976
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: championship with guys, y'all probably have a special bond. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

977
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: I think if you're win six, y'all might as well.

978
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: Y'all should be brothers. Brother So, like I said, you know,

979
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: if you win one championship, I'm pretty sure every time

980
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: y'all get together because you got the you're gonna have

981
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: the reunion. Yes, every every five, five year, ten year,

982
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: fifth tea, twenty three.

983
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

984
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: But if you win six together, y'all should be damned

985
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: near blood byes. So that's the thing I most feel bad.

986
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: There's guys I didn't win with something, but they're some

987
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: of my best friends. Every time I see them, it's like, man,

988
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: I got another brother, and like we bumping each other

989
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: at all the Star Games, maybe the Hall of Fame ceremony,

990
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: or we just bumping each other. It's like a family reunion.

991
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: But if I had won six championship with somebody, I

992
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: would think, Man, we blood brothers for life.

993
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: When people that do what.

994
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: We do take shots at you, I mean you had

995
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: to the funny back and forth, you and Shak had

996
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: the funny back and forth. You put Kendrick person Perkins's

997
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: face on the punching back and you you punch it

998
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: and you get in this shape. I mean, how do

999
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: you how do you handle that? When when guys that

1000
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: do what we do take shots at you. Yeah, it

1001
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me because because I guess technically we take

1002
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: shots at players, right, I don't probably them that I

1003
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: had with what Kendrick says. There's nobody in the world

1004
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: watch more basketball than me, I tell you, Like, and

1005
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I had just come out of March Magic with pissed

1006
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: me off even more because I was watching two or

1007
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: three college basketball games a day. March Maddison really sucks

1008
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: because I'm watching games all day long. But to say

1009
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: another guys don't watch the games because he has a

1010
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: different opinion than you. Yeah. Yeah, And so that's the

1011
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: only thing bothered me. I could say, I say, there's

1012
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: nobody in the world watch more basketball than me. So,

1013
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: but I don't get mad. And the thing is really

1014
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: funny about it. Shack is so sensitive at times because

1015
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna like let it go, and he's like.

1016
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

1017
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: My mama told me growing up, we kill all roaches.

1018
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 1: And I said, like, so that's how the whole roast

1019
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: thing came up, And so any time anything happened right now,

1020
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: Shaq like we kill roach and Shack is so crazy.

1021
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 2: He made a rap this song.

1022
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't take it like I really, the

1023
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: only person I've taken seat I said, honestly is it's

1024
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: Skip Bayless.

1025
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: Because man, what we do is such an honor.

1026
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say stuff just to say it,

1027
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: because my whole going back then, I says, man, there's

1028
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: somebody in Montana, Maine, South Dakota. If I said something

1029
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: bad about these guys, They're like, well, I saw it

1030
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: on television. It's gotta be true, right, So I'm be like, man,

1031
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say anything about a player, especially if

1032
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: it's personal. There's somebody in Montana or South Dakota gonna say, well,

1033
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: you know, Charles Barker said this guy was blah blah blah.

1034
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: So I'm never gonna use my platform for negativity. I'm

1035
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: gonna get you out of him this one. You once

1036
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: said that you've probably lost about twenty million in gambling.

1037
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: Have you quenched that urge to gamble or do you

1038
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: still like to gamble?

1039
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: I love to gamble. I don't like the gamble, you know.

1040
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: I got. I got to the point so I would

1041
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 2: go to Vegas and I'd win a million dollars. Damn,

1042
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: hey me want you playing ahead? Twenty?

1043
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: I played twenty five thousand and a half. Okay, yeah,

1044
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: a couple of quick double dollars you can get them, yea,

1045
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: and quick double doll you can get get it up

1046
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: out of your pockets. There's probably been seven times I

1047
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: want a million dollars. Okay, there's probably been twenty five

1048
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: times I've lost a million.

1049
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1050
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: Uh So what happened was I quit gambling for two

1051
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: years and I always take the same group of guys

1052
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: from men. I said, Man, I miss gambling. They're like,

1053
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: why don't you start gambling again? I said, well, man,

1054
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: I was getting out of hand. They're like, yo, man,

1055
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: you're gambling. Ain't getting out of hand. You're just an idiot, right.

1056
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: And the one thing I pride myself on around my friends,

1057
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: they can always be honest with me. I said, why

1058
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: do you say I'm an idiot? They're like, yo, man,

1059
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: we'll be sitting there. You'll be up three four hundred

1060
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. We're like, Chuck, let's go. You're good for tonight, right,

1061
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: And in my head I'm saying, no, we're not leaving

1062
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: this month. I wear a million dollars, right, And they said, dude,

1063
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: there's times you've been up six seven hundred thousand dollars

1064
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: and you won't quit because gamble's really just peaks in Vallas.

1065
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: It is.

1066
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: It's just peaks in Vallas. It's a stock market, Yes,

1067
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: that's all it is. And they're like, dude, why can't

1068
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: you win three hundred thousand dollars? And say, man, we

1069
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: had a great weekend. Why you gotta win a million?

1070
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: And I said what He says, why can't you lose

1071
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: three hundred and say we still had a great weekend?

1072
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: And I says, are you serious right now? He says, Man,

1073
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: you know I ain't gonna lie to you. Let's win

1074
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand, have a great weekend, go home

1075
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: or lose two or three hundred. You ain't got to

1076
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: win a million, or you ain't got to chase it

1077
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: and lose a million. And so the answer your question,

1078
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, man, we're going to Vegas for the weekend.

1079
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna lose a couple hundred thousand, or we're gonna

1080
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: win a couple hundred thousand. You know what we're gonna do.

1081
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna play golf every day and get drunk every night.

1082
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: And I had to change my mentality because you can

1083
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: never break the casino. No, no, no, they can break here. Yes,

1084
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: And my friends just set me down and says, yo, man,

1085
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: let's just go have fun for the weekend. Let's win

1086
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: some money or lose a little lose a little bit.

1087
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's what really happened. When I would

1088
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: lose a million, I was so depressed. Not that the

1089
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: money just yeah that's bush. Yeah, because of the money,

1090
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: but the losing. But but the winning never feels as

1091
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: good as the losing hurt. Yes, you you were so

1092
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: excited when you got all that money laying in front

1093
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: of you, but.

1094
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,959
Speaker 2: You're like the press for a week, You're like, damn,

1095
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:19,479
Speaker 2: I lost.

1096
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: I lost a million dollars. And then you have to

1097
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: send the bill till you financial people and they yell

1098
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: at you and you they're yelling and yelling and yelling,

1099
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: and then I says, hey, y'all better quit yell at me.

1100
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm a fire y'all. And then they're like, okay, we'll

1101
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: pay it. But that's what really happened. I was getting

1102
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 1: out of hand because, like you just had, your point

1103
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: was so good. No matter how good it feels winning,

1104
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: when you lose, it just sucks. You're really doing this epic. No,

1105
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing my genre. I've lost so channel and I

1106
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: got new hips. So you got both of them replaced? Yes,

1107
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: I got both of my Yeah, the best thing ever,

1108
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: like night and day. I hate that I waited so long.

1109
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: Me too. So I played at two fifty. I got

1110
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: up to two three, three fifty five. Yeah, good, three

1111
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 2: fifty five.

1112
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1113
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: I was good.

1114
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: Good eating too, brother, good eating. So I got up

1115
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: to three fifty five and I was with one of

1116
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: my friends. He had lost a lot of weight, and

1117
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: he said, I said, well, how you lose all that weight?

1118
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, man, I want you to go see

1119
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: my doctor if you're trying to lose weight. And I

1120
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: started doing on jar Ro and I got I went

1121
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: from three fifty five to to eighty five. Wow, and

1122
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to to seventy. Uh, just take a shot.

1123
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. And obviously I can't stay on it my

1124
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: whole life. But when I get to to seventy, you

1125
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: can work, Then I can work. But like I said,

1126
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: when I got them health, man, I gain a hundred

1127
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: and five pounds. Yeah, I was up to three fifty five,

1128
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: and now I'm too eighty five, and I want to

1129
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: get to to seventy because my doctor like, you get

1130
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: two seventy, you're gonna be all right. You know, if

1131
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: you three hundred three twenty, like you got to worry

1132
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: about diabetes, stroke, hypertension and things like that, ain't a

1133
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: whole lot of suff.

1134
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: No, no, he told me. She told me.

1135
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: My name is she sa a She She ain't no

1136
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: fat old people. Yeah, ain't no fat old people. So

1137
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: I want to get my weight down because you know,

1138
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting and difficult. And man, I'm sixty one.

1139
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: It's weird getting older, and I'm glad to get old, right,

1140
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I want to be healthy. Back to

1141
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: playing golfare all the time. Now I'm back to working out.

1142
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: But that's the main thing. Man, I want to be here.

1143
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: Jarles Markley, thank you, Thank you man.

1144
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: So honor all my life, running all my life, second fights, hustle,

1145
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: page the price, right, wanta slice? Got to brow the dice,

1146
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 3: the squad all my life. I've been grinding all my life,

1147
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, Mussell, play

1148
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: the price, want a slice?

1149
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: Got to brow the dice, the squad.

1150
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: All my life.

1151
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life.

1152
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.