WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Nick Of Time

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Loving the Nick of time. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as we get acquainted with the newest Bengal safety, Nick Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>who signed a three year contract on Monday, reportedly for

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<v Speaker 1>twelve million dollars, I think you'll enjoy getting to know

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<v Speaker 1>him as much as I did. He wasn't the only

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<v Speaker 1>free agent to sign on Monday, as Max Sharping agreed

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<v Speaker 1>to return to Cincinnati on a one year deal. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>spend a few minutes with Mammoth Max as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals will have new starting safeties following the departures of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates and Von Bell. We'll discuss that with safety's

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<v Speaker 1>coach Rob Livingston. And then it's the fourth edition of

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<v Speaker 1>our NFL Expert Mock Draft as Charles Davis from CBS

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<v Speaker 1>takes his turn on the Pro Football Focus mock simulator.

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since seeing abundant

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals gear at the Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Airport. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't live in Cincinnati, you might not know that the

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<v Speaker 1>international airport is actually located across the river in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of flying in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>CVG Airport over the years, and it wasn't too long

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<v Speaker 1>ago that if you stopped in the gift shop you

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<v Speaker 1>saw a bunch of Kentucky Wildcats gear, plenty of Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>red stuff, and then maybe just maybe a few items

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<v Speaker 1>with a Bengals logo. Well that's not the case anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my most recent trips to the airport, I've noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that Bengals gear dominates. A Super Bowl appearance followed by

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<v Speaker 1>a return trip to the AFC Championship Game has electrified

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<v Speaker 1>the entire region. Here's hoping they're selling Bengals Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>Championship gear at the airport at this time next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get to my first guest. Nick Scott is

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<v Speaker 1>a great example of hard work paying off, the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>selected him with the two hundred forty third pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen draft. There were only eleven picks after

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<v Speaker 1>him that year. After being a core special teams player

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<v Speaker 1>in his first two seasons, Scott became a starting safety

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<v Speaker 1>late in twenty twenty one due to injuries to Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Fuller and Taylor rap and he took every snap in

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<v Speaker 1>the rams four playoff wins that year, including the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl victory over the Bengals. That led to a starting

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<v Speaker 1>job last season, and Scott finished fifth on the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>and tackles and added two interceptions and two forced fumbles.

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<v Speaker 1>LA has been forced to shed payroll, trading Jalen Ramsey

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<v Speaker 1>and releasing Bobby Wagner, among others. And while they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to bring Nick Scott back, he elected to sign with

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati instead. I talked to him on Monday, Nick, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati. Aside from the financial aspect, how did the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals make it clear to you how badly they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>you here? Oh? I say, just by bringing me in

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<v Speaker 1>the building and you know, sitting me down with the

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<v Speaker 1>legend coach Lou you know, talking ball with him was

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<v Speaker 1>also and also coach Robbie. I mean, those guys know

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<v Speaker 1>their stuff, you know. So after I met them and

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<v Speaker 1>got a chance to meet the owner and see how

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<v Speaker 1>genuine he was, and and you know coach Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. I mean, just coming in the

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<v Speaker 1>facility and being around those guys, you know, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear that, you know, this organization is moving in a

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<v Speaker 1>great direction and I want to be part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We can add the legend Coach Lou to his many nicknames.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a lot of people have been referring him to

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<v Speaker 1>as the mad Scientist for some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>he's drawn up over the last couple of years. For

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff to work, it takes really smart players, and

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like that's a key reason for your success. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been blessed with my ability, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know the mental aspect. You know, I'm a sponge. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always willing to learn and everything like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't consider myself necessarily a brainiact, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited because I know I'll be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>some good information, not just from Coach Lou and Coach Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>but these players who have been in this system for

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<v Speaker 1>a while it's a real tight knit group, it's very apparent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, pretty much everybody in that D DV room

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<v Speaker 1>has already reached out to me and welcomed me as

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<v Speaker 1>part of the team. So, you know, I'm extremely excited

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<v Speaker 1>to work with that group because of how talented they are.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals have prioritized signing and drafting guys that love football,

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<v Speaker 1>love the grind. You were a two time captain at

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State, you won the Sportsmanship Award in the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly it sounds like you are one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about this game that speaks to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know how competitive you have to be. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the youngest of three boys, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>I tried every day. My heart is to be the

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<v Speaker 1>alpha the group, even though it didn't always work. But

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, having that competitive nature instilled in me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the excitement and joy you get from

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<v Speaker 1>making plays and also watching your teammates make plays, there's

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<v Speaker 1>really nothing like it. And I also like the physical aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of imposing your will on somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else because you're allowed to. When you went to Penn State,

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<v Speaker 1>you started out as a running back. Did you embrace

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<v Speaker 1>that change to safety pretty quickly? Yeah, I really did. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was a running back, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it became pretty clear pretty early that that wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be how I could best help the team. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time, I was playing special teams, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went up to my coaching and said, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a great special teams player. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'd be you know, more of my benefit if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working on tackling in that type of position every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'd love to move to safety and

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<v Speaker 1>just perfect that craft, and I was able to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure as a free agent, you were looking around

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<v Speaker 1>the league and trying to evaluate who had a need,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think most people around the league figure Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Bates was probably going to sign elsewhere. Von Bell was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more up in the air. But once

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<v Speaker 1>he did, did you say to yourself and to your agent,

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<v Speaker 1>I would fit in Cincinnati. Yeah. You know, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Cincinnati, my agent and I, you know, ever

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<v Speaker 1>since we could, and so there was always a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of interest there. Obviously, they had to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what they wanted to do with those guys. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>This was one of the top teams on my radar

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<v Speaker 1>just because of you know, the location, the city, the fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know obviously what they're capable of. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a great fit so far, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>only been five minutes. But I'm excited about what these

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<v Speaker 1>next three years are gonna hold. Looks like you will

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<v Speaker 1>be paired at safety with another Big ten guy and

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<v Speaker 1>Dax Hyler, who was a first round pick last year,

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<v Speaker 1>being from the Big Ten. Did you watch his games?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with him? Yeah, I'm definitely familiar with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's an athletic freak. I remember watching

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<v Speaker 1>him in a preseason game, I think his his rookie year,

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<v Speaker 1>and just watching him ball out and do that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I was extremely happy for him, like I am any

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten guys, even though he went to Michigan. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm extremely excited about Dax and you know his potential,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm sure I'll be able to take

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<v Speaker 1>them some things from his game, and I hope he,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, feels free to ask me questions and to

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<v Speaker 1>take some stuff from my game. But I think it

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<v Speaker 1>will be a great little duo. We're chatting with next Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't overlap with Zach Taylor with the Rams, but

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear stuff about him from your teammates there?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, people still talk about Zach tayl over there

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<v Speaker 1>and what he was able to do with that offense

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that. So you know, he left a

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<v Speaker 1>great mark on that organization, and you know obviously has

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<v Speaker 1>taken you know, what he learned and his own traits

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<v Speaker 1>and brought it over here and is having great success. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it was a no braiding for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a Super Bowl ring at the Bengals expense.

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<v Speaker 1>What stands out about your Super Bowl experience? The whole

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<v Speaker 1>week and then the game itself? Oh man, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just super grateful that entire week, you know, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people that know my story know that I was a

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<v Speaker 1>special teams guy, was drafted in the seventh round. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I try my best just to work hard every day

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<v Speaker 1>and put myself in my teammates in a position to

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<v Speaker 1>be successful. And I was able to do that to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where my coaches and teammates trusted me being

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<v Speaker 1>out there as a starter. So just extremely grateful for

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<v Speaker 1>that experience. When loser draw you know, and that's something

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<v Speaker 1>I'll chaished for the rest of my life. Glad you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned your journey because I read that you gave the

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<v Speaker 1>commencement address at your former high school, and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>an interview where you described your message to the students.

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<v Speaker 1>Embrace your role, but don't settle for it. From seventh

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<v Speaker 1>round pick to special team's ace, to starter to highly

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<v Speaker 1>coveted free agent, that's somebody who embraced his role but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't settle for it. Now, that's that's exactly right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I lived by, And you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stress enough how important it is for me to help

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<v Speaker 1>my team be successful, regardless of the role, whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>starting safety, whether that's water boy, or whether that's special

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<v Speaker 1>team or everybody's extremely important to a team and their success.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no shame in, you know, having goals and

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<v Speaker 1>aspirations and wanting to be greater, because if you're striving

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<v Speaker 1>for a greater it's only going to make you better

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<v Speaker 1>and the people around you better. As an NFL draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick and a guy who's played four years in the

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<v Speaker 1>league so far, you've obviously made decent money. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you earn that second contract, now you're in a different

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<v Speaker 1>tax bracket. What is the level of satisfaction for you

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<v Speaker 1>for having earned this? Oh man, it's a huge blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned tax bracket. It's even more of a blessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can earn that money in Ohio versus California research.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's a it's a huge blessing. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>so excited about. Um, you know what this can do

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<v Speaker 1>for my entire family. Um, you know, my family that

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with as well as my own little nucleus. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I don't necessarily see that money as mine,

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<v Speaker 1>but more of money for my family and the community,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, an opportunity to be a blessing around

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<v Speaker 1>with people around me. Your wife and young son are

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<v Speaker 1>in the room with us right now, three months old,

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<v Speaker 1>behaving very well. What do you enjoying about fatherhood so far?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man? UM, just honestly watching you know, the mother

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<v Speaker 1>that my wife has grown into. He's already a fantastic mother,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's awesome to step in this parent role with her.

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<v Speaker 1>We're learning a lot about each other in that role,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just seeing Jack change every day and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the tougher parts as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>we get him locked down, he switches it up on

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<v Speaker 1>us and he's entering a new phase and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know the best thing that we got going

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<v Speaker 1>right now is we're starting to get some laughs and

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<v Speaker 1>some chuckles out of him. So you know, my whole

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<v Speaker 1>day is pretty much spent around trying to get him

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh. Just like the name Jack or was there

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<v Speaker 1>added meeting behind it? Now there's added meeting. So my

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<v Speaker 1>actually at home, my father mostly and my mom, they

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<v Speaker 1>refer to me as Jack and they have since I

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<v Speaker 1>was a child, short for Jack Rabbit. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>high octane, bouncing off the walls individual, So they've been

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<v Speaker 1>calling me Jack and Jack Rabbit since I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I wanted to name my son after myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also wanted him to feel like he has

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<v Speaker 1>his own legacy that he can lead. So we felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Jack was a perfect fit. Jack Rabbit's a good

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<v Speaker 1>description for RANGEI safety, Yeah for sure, Yeah, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>got range. I'm pretty sure I still got some hops.

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<v Speaker 1>So that whole DV group is pretty athletic, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're gonna be giving me a run for my money.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, if we're all you know out there flying around,

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<v Speaker 1>jumping around, making plays. I'm excited for what we can do.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a forty one inch vertical at the combine.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you definitely have some hops. Yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>some springs for sure. Yeah. That was obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing to be able to have a pro day

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of put my name out there with some

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<v Speaker 1>good numbers. This is an exciting day for the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>and for you and your family. Congratulations on a well

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<v Speaker 1>deserved opportunity in Cincinnati. Thank you so much. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try this out again who Day. The Bengals Booth podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for grabs. Find both inside the Bengals app. Following my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Nick, I joined some other Bengals reporters and

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<v Speaker 1>talking to safety's coach Rob Livingston about the overhaul of

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<v Speaker 1>his position group following the departures of Jesse, Bates and

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<v Speaker 1>Von Bell. That duo almost never came off the field

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<v Speaker 1>over the past five years. Jesse missed just one start

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<v Speaker 1>due to injury, and over the past three seasons, Vaughan

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<v Speaker 1>didn't miss any. Livingston says their impact will continue even

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<v Speaker 1>though they are no longer with the team. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know they left it better than they found it, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a shot at what it was before. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you can you know, in this league, in

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<v Speaker 1>my personal opinion, whether you're a position coach or a player,

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<v Speaker 1>change is going to happen, right, So when you leave

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<v Speaker 1>a place, if it is in better shape than it

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<v Speaker 1>was when you found it, that's all you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>For Jesse, he's a guy that came in and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>started as a rookie, which never happened around here at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. And you know, he's kind of shown hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you give young players the keys to the car

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<v Speaker 1>and just let them go and take the good with

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<v Speaker 1>the bad, then they can have success. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for Vaughan, Von came in at a time when we

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<v Speaker 1>needed veteran leadership and kind of trudged through a really

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<v Speaker 1>a year and we'll see on his chest the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, if you weren't on your p's and q's,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd beat you to work and he'd be the first

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<v Speaker 1>guy you see working out and he's just the grinder,

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate grinder. So yeah, things will be done here

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Because Vaughan and jested it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>Livingston knows exactly what he's getting and Nick Scott. Scott's

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<v Speaker 1>college coach at Penn State was James Franklin, and Livingston

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<v Speaker 1>was on Franklin's coaching staff at Vanderbilt in two eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has plenty of contacts on the Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>staff who gave him the skinny on the Bengals new safety.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked all those guys, so those were easy conversations

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<v Speaker 1>and they all came back really the same answer. Love

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was a captain, great leader of phenomenal leadership ability.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll love him, get him any way you can. So

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<v Speaker 1>just the overriding like, hey, this is a great guy

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<v Speaker 1>from all the sources that I talked to. Was was

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to hear. Scott is a great athlete. Prior to

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<v Speaker 1>his draft he ran a four four three forty with

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<v Speaker 1>a forty one inch vertical leap and a ten foot

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<v Speaker 1>eight inch broad jump. Those are all elite measurements, but

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a high draft pick because he didn't start

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<v Speaker 1>until his senior year at Penn state, and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit undersized at safety, but despite being about fifteen pounds

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<v Speaker 1>lighter than von Bell, Scott packs a punch. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have a tone center. You gotta have somebody that can

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<v Speaker 1>that can you know, set the tone on early down

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<v Speaker 1>so to get you to these third and long so

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<v Speaker 1>you can have fun and do some some fun thing

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<v Speaker 1>on defense. So you know that is ingrained in him. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a guy who has had to earn

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<v Speaker 1>every inch of the NFL he's had, you know, your

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round pick. You're a non combine guy. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>aren't supposed to make it much less make second contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's the testaments to to who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, what he's about the doors that he's already

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<v Speaker 1>he knocked down, You know, again, he shouldn't be here

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<v Speaker 1>into his credit he is, and that should let you

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<v Speaker 1>know kind of the toughness and the mental fortitude that

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<v Speaker 1>he has. For sure, the bengals other starting safety is

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<v Speaker 1>not a scrappy underdog. It's last year's first round draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick Dax Hill, who got snaps at a wide variety

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<v Speaker 1>of positions while waiting his turn as a rookie The

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of Dax's rookie year was that he played a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of spots, so you know he's seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things. You know, a last training camp was

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. Dax's a starting free safety and had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good camp, and you know, Jess shows up

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<v Speaker 1>and Jess obviously had a phenomenal years, a phenomenal player.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're playing in Pittsburgh. I think it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first third down the game, so we put Dime out there,

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<v Speaker 1>so Dax is out there, so unfortunately they convert it.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the first time in his life, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to run off the field and you can just see

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<v Speaker 1>like the wheels turning, like okay, it's first and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, no no, no, dude, Like you gotta come off

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<v Speaker 1>like you're not out there anymore. So packages were different,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean little things, And I know that sounds stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>but like when you go from being a full time

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<v Speaker 1>starter your whole life to now you're a reliever. Right

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<v Speaker 1>it's the bottom of the seventh, you're coming in, there's

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<v Speaker 1>two outs and you got to get a guy out right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a different lifestyle for for people. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he'll admit it. I mean, there were some highs. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the play he made at the end of the New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans game was phenomenal, had some other really good plays,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were some lows. I mean, that is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You're a rookie, so it's a good starting point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Selfishly, I'm happy that the highs were good

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<v Speaker 1>and the lows were bad, so that hey, dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a chip on my shoulder and away we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a lot of you know, stresses and

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<v Speaker 1>worries in my life, and he's not one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first round pick for a reason, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited and Livingston it's also eager to see

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<v Speaker 1>what Tyson Anderson can do. He was selected in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth round last year but didn't play a single snap

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<v Speaker 1>after suffering a hamstring injury in training camp. You can

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<v Speaker 1>put yourself in issues and say, ah, that must have

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<v Speaker 1>sucked your whole life. You want to play in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and you get hurt like the last week of

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<v Speaker 1>camp and you're on ir all year. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the positive to that is he had all year to

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<v Speaker 1>be in meetings and it's a Wrencher year at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, which everybody probably needs. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>an exciting time. Obviously, he's got to be chumping at

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<v Speaker 1>the bit to get going and you know, prove what

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<v Speaker 1>he can do and we'll be excited to have him

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<v Speaker 1>and everything he can do. You know, it'll be it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a big year for him. Now that Orlando Brown

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<v Speaker 1>and Nick Scott of signed, the Bengals can look to

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<v Speaker 1>address other needs in free agencies, such as tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>running back or cornerback. The dollars obviously have to make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but Livingston says getting free agents to consider Cincinnati is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer a challenge. All the guys to a man

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<v Speaker 1>that come in and say, hey, look, we look, we

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<v Speaker 1>see how you guys play. There's something special here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to be a part of it. And four

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<v Speaker 1>years ago it wouldn't like that. You know. Again, I

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<v Speaker 1>was telling somebody like, you know, we'd have a free

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<v Speaker 1>agent visit four years ago, and you know, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a college coach again, Like, hey, man, if you come here,

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<v Speaker 1>we can win. I promise it'll be great. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great place to live. You know, players come here now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, I want to be here. What do

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<v Speaker 1>I have to do? So I think it's it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a testament to the people upstairs to obviously mister Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie and Troy, how they've kind of built this thing

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<v Speaker 1>with the new amenities and you look how nice the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room and the training room is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we all realized Number nine still placed quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>so that helps a lot as well. But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the men in there, like, uh, you know guys nobody

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<v Speaker 1>talks about all right, Like like Mike Thomas. Mike Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>is in year eleven, kind of the same story we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about. You know, college free agent, second third fourth contract,

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl player could be the CEO of a fortune

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred company, could do whatever he wants. And the

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<v Speaker 1>dudes here every morning, like at six am, when a

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<v Speaker 1>smile on his face. So it's people like that that

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<v Speaker 1>Alta Fiber. In the AFC champion Ship Game loss at

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, the Bengals had three backups starting on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, with Jackson Carmen and Hakimadenogy at the tackle

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<v Speaker 1>spots and Max Sharping at right guard in place of

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<v Speaker 1>the injured Alex Kappa. It was obviously a tough day

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<v Speaker 1>for the old line, as Kansas City had five sacks

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve quarterback hits, but it should be pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>that the subs were stellar the week before, allowing just

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<v Speaker 1>one sack and paving the way for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two rushing yards in the win at Buffalo. Max

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<v Speaker 1>Sharping was a second round draft picked by Houston and

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<v Speaker 1>a three year starter for the Texans before the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>signed him off of waivers just before the start of

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<v Speaker 1>last year. He signed a one year extension on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I spent a few minutes with him moments after

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<v Speaker 1>he put pen to paper. I believe this was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time you were a free agent. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>process like for you us? You know, a little stressful,

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<v Speaker 1>little interesting to say the least, but you know, excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be back. Money is obviously a key consideration, but

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<v Speaker 1>did you have other priorities in mind? You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>family is here, with my two sisters being at Xavier

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<v Speaker 1>so that's always a priority of mine to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>around family. It's you know, one of the biggest aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. So it was nice that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have family here. Obviously, a great team, great organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoyed a lot of success here last year, so just

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<v Speaker 1>excited to be back. All right, let's backpedal for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>You have two sisters at Xavier. Yes, they play lacrosse.

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<v Speaker 1>Lacrosse there. How did I not know this research research?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's my wife's sisters, their sister in laws. But yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they are my sisters. So that's pretty cool. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Max Sharping. You grew up in Green Bay, went

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<v Speaker 1>to school at Northern Illinois. This isn't too far away.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find kind of an immediate comfort level here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, especially with how nice everyone is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the old line room and the coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the locker room. You know, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was immediate. You know, it's a it's a midwestern town,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Midwestern field, exactly what I grew up with.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely you've got here. Just before the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. You weren't here in training camp. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>become comfortable pretty quickly. Yeah, you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and teammates are all great to help me out

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<v Speaker 1>learning a playbook and you know, getting accustomed to how

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<v Speaker 1>things run here. Um, so did did get comfortable very quickly?

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<v Speaker 1>Will it be easier for you this year having the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to go through OTA's training camp, etc. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of your comfort level with your assignments, the playbook, frank system,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Anytime you're in an offense for more than

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months, it definitely makes it smoother. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely you know, pick up more nuances and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dive deeper into into everything than than I got to

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<v Speaker 1>in the start of last year. So definitely we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a nice refresher getting everything back and you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>really honing in on every minor little detail. We're chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with Max Sharping. After Alex Kappa's injury, your first three

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<v Speaker 1>starts as a Bengal were the three playoff games. How

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<v Speaker 1>challenging was that? Yeah, you know, playoff football is tough. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was great to be in a spot

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<v Speaker 1>where our our team was in the playoffs and you know, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my teammates helped me while I was out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, like you said, playoff football is

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<v Speaker 1>playoff football. So it's uh, it was interesting. Cloud. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a couple of wins out there. Wish we

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<v Speaker 1>could have, you know, won that last one against Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, you know, we'll we'll we'll go back for

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<v Speaker 1>it this year. So we're a couple of weeks into

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. The Bengals I think stunned a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL by signing the top free agent tackle on

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<v Speaker 1>the market in Orlando Brown. What was your reaction when

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<v Speaker 1>you heard that news. I mean, he's a great player,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I think everyone in the league

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<v Speaker 1>would would like him as their left tackle. So good

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<v Speaker 1>good job on the Bengals, you know, going out and

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<v Speaker 1>getting their guy, and you know, excited to work with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were on a playoff team your first year

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<v Speaker 1>in Houston won a game, and now last year with

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati you won two games. So you've had a taste

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<v Speaker 1>of making it to the AFC Championship Game. Does that

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<v Speaker 1>what your appetite for getting back and trying to take

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<v Speaker 1>it one or two wins further? I mean, anytime you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing in the NFL, your ultimate goal is is

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<v Speaker 1>to go win the big ones. So you know, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>having that experience helps. And as a team, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we've we've shown that we can get to those points,

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<v Speaker 1>but well, you know, we need to prove it again

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<v Speaker 1>this year. Coming back this year with a year of

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati experience under your belt. Any thoughts about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what you'd like your role to be, what you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to strive for, etc. Just trying to be the best

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<v Speaker 1>version of me that I can be and to help

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<v Speaker 1>this team in any way that I can. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you know CoP's going to come back. Cordell played

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<v Speaker 1>very well, So just trying to put myself in a

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<v Speaker 1>position to challenge those guys, make sure that all of

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<v Speaker 1>us keep getting better and better, and then putting my

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<v Speaker 1>best foot forward and getting better as a team. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been a great addition to the franchise. Congratulations on sticking

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<v Speaker 1>around for a while longer. Thank you very much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>for our fourth edition of the three round mock Draft

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<v Speaker 1>with an NFL expert. Here's the concept. When I attended

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Combine a few weeks ago, I had the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus mock Draft simulator set up on my

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<v Speaker 1>computer and I invited several NFL experts to make the

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<v Speaker 1>bank picks in the first three rounds while discussing their options.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've never tried a draft simulator before, it allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to play Bengals GM for as many rounds of

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<v Speaker 1>the draft as you want. The simulator begins making picks

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<v Speaker 1>in order, and then when it's your turn, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make trades or go ahead and pick. It's a good

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<v Speaker 1>way to get to know the players who might be

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<v Speaker 1>available when the Bengals around the clock in late April.

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<v Speaker 1>Dane Brugler from The Athletic went first and chose Maryland

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback Deante Banks in the first round, Northwestern defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>at A Tommy wa at a bare in the second,

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<v Speaker 1>and Iowa tight end Sam Laporta in the third. He

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<v Speaker 1>received an a minus grade from Pro Football Focus. Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Prisco from CBS Sports chose Utah tight end Dalton Kincaid

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<v Speaker 1>in round one, Washington State linebacker day On Henley in

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<v Speaker 1>round two, and BYU offensive tackle Blake Freeland in round three.

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<v Speaker 1>He received a b Ryan Fowler from the Draft Network

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<v Speaker 1>chose Oregon State tight end Luke Musgraven round one, Syracuse

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackle Matthew Bergeron in round two, and Maryland cornerback

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Jakorean Bennett in round three. He received a B minus.

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<v Speaker 1>Now time for contestant number four. We are about to

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<v Speaker 1>do a three round mock draft with Charles Davis from

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<v Speaker 1>CBS Sports. And here's the concept I have called up

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<v Speaker 1>the PFF mock Draft simulator. The Bengals have the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighth pick. We're not allowed to make trades, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will see who gets selected with the first twenty seven picks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you will be on the clock with pick

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty eight. So here we go. The draft has started.

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<v Speaker 1>These names are running off the clock very quickly. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this set at a high speed. So with pick

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, the Buffalo Bills just selected South Carolina cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Smith. The pit defensive tackle who ran the great

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<v Speaker 1>forty Collijah Canty went a couple of picks before that,

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan Smith, who ran an unbelievable forty yard dash. The

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<v Speaker 1>edge rusher from Georgia went twenty fifth. So now the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals are on the clock. Here are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are available, Charles. We've got Zay Flowers, the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver from BC Deonte Banks from Maryland, a corner

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<v Speaker 1>that's a need for the Bengals. Andre Carter edge rusher

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>from Army, Dalton kincaide tight end from Utah, Anton Harrison

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>tackle from Oklahoma, Will McDonald edge rusher from Iowa State,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Johnson safety from Texas. A at am Luke Musgrave

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<v Speaker 1>another of the highly rated tight ends. I'm scrolling a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more so you can check out who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the board, all right, Okay, Well, based off of what

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen on the board and what I perceive is

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<v Speaker 1>needs go down a little bit more for me, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm adding to the tight end room with Dalton kincaid

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>out of Utah. I've heard comparisons to Travis Kelsey. Nobody

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>says as good as Travis Kelsey's the best in the league.

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He's the best in the league, but a great receiving

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>tight end because you've got a quarterback who finds anyone

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>who happens to be open. Chart everyone doubling your receivers

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and the whole deal. Dunkin Kake could make make cave

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<v Speaker 1>really early. Early. With a twenty eighth pick in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three NFL Draft, Charles Davis has selected Utah

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>tight end Dalton Kincaid in an extremely deep tight end class,

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<v Speaker 1>Kincaid is considered by many of the draft gurus to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best pass catching threat. In one game against

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<v Speaker 1>USC last year, he had sixteen catches for two hundred

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>thirty four yards. With Hayden Hurst signing with Carolina, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals obviously have a need at tight end, but Kincaid

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<v Speaker 1>might not be there at pick number twenty eight. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the mock drafts I've looked at have Kincaid going

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<v Speaker 1>a few picks before Cincinnati is on the clock. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see who Charles Davis selected in round two. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that pick is in. Now we are flying through the

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<v Speaker 1>second round, and we'll see who was available to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals with their late second round pick. All Right, fun

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fun too. Here are the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are still available for the Bengals in the second round.

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Andre Carter edge rusher from Army Tank, Dell speedy receiver,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>great return man from Houston. Linebacker Dayon Henley from Washington

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>state wide receiver Josh Downs or North Carolina. Carl Brooks

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>edge rush from Bowling Green, Garrett Williams cornerback from Syracuse.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Nick herbig edge rusher from Wisconsin. Matthew bergeron tackle from Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals might have a needed right tackle depending on the Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, who do you want? I want? Sydney Brown safety, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney Brown Sallinois. I saw him down there. Every year

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy I always call the I call always say,

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<v Speaker 1>the patron saint of instincts in the modern game. On

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<v Speaker 1>the back end, it's Tyrant Matthew. No one had better instincts.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's that guy. And every year I look

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 1>for someone that kind of who's my Tyrant Matthew of

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>this year, even if you're not as quite a good player.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>In recent years it's been um Antoine Winfield coming out

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota. Go into Tampa Bay, who want a Super

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Bowl it's been Elijah Molden coming out going to Tennessee,

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>dinged up a little bit last year. Sydney Brown has

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of instincts playing a safety position. Pretty sure

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates isn't gonna be around correct and this kid

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>six interceptions last year, tackles fiercely in the run game.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Sydney Brown goes back there as well and keeps increasing

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. Because you took Das Hill last year, right,

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>who's the corner around in Aska, Kim Taylor Britt, Taylor Britt.

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<v Speaker 1>With Taylor Britt stays at corner Dax Hill, you can

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<v Speaker 1>play all over the place. I like Sydney Brown going in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pure safety. Keep in mind that Charles made

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<v Speaker 1>that pick before Von Bell left and Nick Scott signed,

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<v Speaker 1>so he might go in a different direction now, but

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<v Speaker 1>then again, maybe not. Sidney Brown ran a four four

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<v Speaker 1>seven forty at the combine with a forty and a

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.719
<v Speaker 1>half inch vertical leap. He's number fifty seven on the

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<v Speaker 1>PF Top one hundred big board. Now time for charles

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<v Speaker 1>third and final pick. The mock draft simulator is racing

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the Bengals third round pick, and here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Buffalo just took a Georgia safety, Christopher Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Tyler Scott, the wide receiver from UC went two

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<v Speaker 1>picks ahead to the Dallas Cowboys. Tank Dell is still

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. Ye. Then we have Carl Brooks, Bowling Green,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Herbig Wiscon Sam Laporta. You've already drafted a tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Iowa, Trevius Hodges, Tomlinson from TCU. He's a corner,

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<v Speaker 1>von Our chain Our Shane. I'm not sure how it's pronounced.

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>He's a running back. We've got Michael Wilson, a wide

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>receiver from Stanford. I'll scroll down a few more. See

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody floats your boat from the guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>still remaining on the PF mock Draft. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>cover myself because I think I'm gonna cover myself with

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<v Speaker 1>a runner for Cincinnati because not quite sure what's I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe this mojp Ryn's free agent. He is not

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<v Speaker 1>quite sure what happens with Joe Mixon because now we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a terrific football player, terrific running back. But

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<v Speaker 1>money's always a consideration, and there's a quarterback coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>It might have to get a few dollars along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like the young man out of UAB, Dwayne McBride.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't see him here at the combine. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe with thing. He's got a hamstring injury, but he's

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a terrific run catch it out of the backfield. I

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<v Speaker 1>just like the fact that you covered yourselves. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Chris Evans doesn't want to hear that. Treb Elways

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to hear that. I get it. But with

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the style of offense the Cincinnati plays, a high volume,

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>heavy duty runner is a good thing to have running

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<v Speaker 1>back to. Wayne McBride out of UAB is number eighty

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<v Speaker 1>on the PF Big Board after rushing for more than

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>seventeen hundred yards last year. He ran for at least

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty in every game but one, and

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>finished his college career with two hundred and seventy two

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>yards on sixteen carries against Louisiana Tech. But one big

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>negative about Nickbride is that he only caught five passes

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<v Speaker 1>in three years at UAB. Now let's find out how

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<v Speaker 1>PF graded those picks. But this ends his space that

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<v Speaker 1>want to see if I graduated like B minus C

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>minus d minus. Oh the pain I'm in right now.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh the pain I'm in right now. I guess I

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>will not be invited to the PF rat party when

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>this thing is all over. Well, if it makes you

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.280
<v Speaker 1>feel any better, I have not received a good grade

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>on a three round mock yet. I'm not sure what

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it takes to get a good grade, since Dwayne McBride

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the top players that they had listed

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>still available. In any case, I think the Bengals would

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>be really happy with Kincaid and Brown are the first

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>two picks, no doubt about it, and I think they'd

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>be happy with McBride. But obviously PFF doesn't agree with me,

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>so I've got to go with their ranking for now.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how it all plays out. But this is

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>like Adam Sandler and mister Deeds who was trying to

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>get his card published by hall those Hallmark people. That's

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>a tough nut to crack. I think the PF people

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>are the same people. This is fine. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>being a good sport Thanks so much, and I always

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your expertise. Always great to see you. Thanks for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll have another NFL expert mock draft next week, that's

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