1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome to 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: another edition of The Giants Huddle Podcast. We have a 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: crowded room today. I'm John Schmilk, Lance Meadal, Paul Detino. 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Our guest from ESPN, Sal Palantonio. He's the host of 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the NFL Matchup shown ESPN. Will be on all weekend 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: on ESPN and ESPN to make sure you go check 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: that out. Set your DVR if you want to get 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: ready for game week. It's the best show out there 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: you get. They do it down from NFL film. Sal, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: You've gotta do a lot of great stuff and it's 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: a fantastic program. Thanks so much for the time. Man. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: Oh listen, Greg co Sell and Darius Butler are our 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: new analysts this year. Do a great job. You know. 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: Greg's one of the best quarterback gurus out there. You know, 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: he breaks down the film, is good as anybody. Darius 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: just becoming very entertaining guy on the show. So we've 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: had a good year and we're gonna finish up strong. 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for promoting the show. We really appreciate that. 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: It is must must viewing. If you're a big football fan. 21 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: You want to get into the xs and ohs. Don't 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: forget folks. The Johnsontle Podcast is brought to you by 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: PSC ANDNG Energy Efficiency For game time and anytime, visit 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: p SEG dot COM's Last Giants for discounts, rebates and 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: home energy assessments. All right, sal let's take the twenty 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: thousand view first of you. First, you talk the people 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: are on the league. You watch the league closely, you 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: watch the tape along with your guys on the matchup show. 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: What's the big picture view of how Brian Dable has 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: managed to turn this Giants team into a playoff team 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: so quickly when they were staring at a top five 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: pick in the draft last year. Well, John, I think 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the number one thing when you want to take the 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: big picture of you pull a lens back. You know, 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: in all NFL franchises, you look at the owner, GM 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: coach quarterback relationship, right, that is the chain of command 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: from ownership down to the field. And you know when 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: when Gettleman first look at Daniel Jones, he said, you know, 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: this guy looks like a CEO on the field. He 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: looks like a star out in quarterback in the NFL, 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: and I think you know, after three head coaches and 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: four coordinators in New York, they finally got dialed in 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the right guy, Brian day Ball has I just remember 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact game or the down and distance, 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: but there was a time that Daniel Jones through a 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: very bad interception in the red zone or inside the 47 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: five yard line, and he came to the sideline and 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Brian day Ball did one of these things, almost like 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: grabbing his face. Max came real close on top of 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: and Paul's laughing, right, Paul, you remember, and he okay, 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: he got in his grill, right John, and he's and 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: after the game, he was not shy about talking about saying, 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: we can't let this happen to us. We can't let 54 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: this happen. You can't do this. So you guys can 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: still see me, right. So I'm gonna read something that 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: was sent over from ESPN Stats and Information by our guy, 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Evan Kaplan, who's a Giants fan. By the way, Daniel 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Jones has eight turn overs this season. You guys know 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: these numbers, but I think they're worth repeating, on pace 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: to be a fewest in his career. Eight turnovers fewest 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: in his career at twenty three turnovers as a rookie 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen sixteen and two thousand twenty to 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: ten last year, but eight this year. And get this, 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: he has the lowest interception percentage in the NFL this year. 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: The top three are Jones, Jalen Hurts here in Philly, 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and that guy Tom Brady. Remember him. So Daniel Jones 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: is number one in interception percentage. He's got career highs 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: in rushing attempts a hundred and twenty, rushing yards seven 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: and eight, and rushing touchdowns with seven. And here's the 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: key thing. Assuming he starts Sunday, and I'm gonna assume 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna start, it will be the first time in 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: his career he started every one of the Giants games. 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: They've been sixty four different starting quarterbacks in the NFL 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: this year, John, only eleven have started all sixteen games, 75 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: and Jones is one of them. That's why durability is 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: so kay, go ahead, John, any wanna yeah? Because they 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: were looking sud to your point, for him to prove 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: that he can stay on the field. You brought up 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: the starting element and you look at the Giants that 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: coming off their two best offensive performances in terms of 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: total yardage and points and sal I think there's an 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: argument to be made that there is something to be 83 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: said about momentum late in the season that you can 84 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: maybe carry that into the playoffs. How much do you 85 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: think that ways on Brian Dable in terms of saying, hey, 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: we don't have anything to gain in terms of were 87 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: locked into the six seed, but our offense right now 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: is performing at a very high level. Do I really 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: want to disrupt that? Maybe there is some value and 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: benefit to keeping the bulk of his starters on the field. 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: What did Marty Schartenheimer always say lass He said football 92 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: is a game of the heart. Right, So my show 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: is called the Matchup Show. But I believe in the mojow. 94 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: I like the whole idea of momentum. I've seen it work. Hey, 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: you guys know it very well. You've seen it work 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: with Tom Coughlin and Elin Banning when they were a 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: wild card team. They got momentum, they hit big in 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and they went on and won the Super Bowl. 99 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: So I mean, momentum is I think a huge thing. 100 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: Not so much in baseball because momentum is only as 101 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: good as your next starting pitcher, right, especially when you 102 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: get to the postseason. We see that all the time. 103 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Philly's had great momentum in the World Series. Hit those 104 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: dingers against Houston, and then what happens. They get shut 105 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: down by great starting pitching. They got shut out and 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: no hit and then they got destroyed because of good 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: starting pitching. In football, you can use energy and momentum, 108 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: and because it is a game of the heart, because guys, 109 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of guys lance walking around up 110 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: there in the paramous mall. They want to hit people 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: for a living, right, So there, you know, it's a 112 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: special skill that you get paid to play a violent sport. 113 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: So you gotta have energy, and you gotta wanna. You 114 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: gotta have the energy, you gotta be you gotta have 115 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: the ability to be want to be in it. Taking 116 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: that separately, knowing the Giants have been around those two 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winners, the Cofflin era, I wasn't really around 118 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: for the parcels Hera, but I know the pride of 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: the New York Giants and the pride of the New 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: York Giants fan. I grew up in New York, they 121 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: didn't like it when Philly came in there. They love 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: to be the spoiler for the Birds, There's no question 123 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: about that. And I don't see this Eagles team with 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: very much mojo right now. They're trying to get that back. 125 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: So do the Giants really want to be victims of 126 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles getting their bow Joe back in the final 127 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: game of the season. I think that all has to 128 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: be part of it rans and the calculus of what 129 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you do in this game. Apparently Paul sal has not 130 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: been around the premise mall around Christmas time when there 131 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: are a lot but really you see those people literally 132 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: knocking over each other to get the little sale rax. Uh. So, 133 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you about Giants Eagles connection here, and 134 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna involve taking a step back a moment to 135 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: John's question about the big picture with this team. Brandon 136 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Brown was in the personnel department with the Eagles for 137 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: a few years. The Giants hearted of this insistent general 138 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: manager this year to Joe Shane, and Joe makes particular 139 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: points every time he's asked about giving credit to him 140 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: and the rest of the personnel staff for the Giants 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: who have overcome a significant number of injuries, to pick 142 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: up guys off the street, to have a rookie class 143 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: that has produced, to have rookie free agents who have 144 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: given them important snaps to get them to nine wins. 145 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: What was it about Brandon Brown that was so important 146 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: to the Eagles and that he has brought to the 147 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Giants to help make this picture a hell of a 148 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: lot better than it could have been. Well, Paul, I 149 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: think it goes back to the whole concept of keeping 150 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: it real, you know, and that and that's the that's 151 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: what's kept this Eagles team up and and stayed up 152 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: for the Andy Reid years. You had that bad year 153 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: under Doug Peterson and he got fired. But for the 154 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,479 Speaker 1: most part, you guys know, the Eagles have been very competitive. 155 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: And Howie Rosemand has been the GM or part of 156 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: the organization since the year two thousand, so um, there's 157 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: people around him that he's always brought in by saying, 158 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: all right, I just want reality here, don't sugarcoat it. 159 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Just tell me who's gonna work, who's not not gonna work, 160 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: you know. And the Eagles have instituted and I don't 161 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: know how much the Giants have adopted it, who are 162 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: adapted it. Excuse me, is this whole idea of you know, cohabitation. 163 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: Can this player that we bring in work with us? 164 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: Can he collaborate with us? Is he as team player? 165 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Does he understand the concepts of what we're trying to 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: achieve here, not only for for football standpoint, but from 167 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: a psychological standpoint, you know, And the nixed Arianni has 168 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: taken that to the next level and talked about the 169 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: five core principles in the last two years. And the 170 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: first one is connection. Are you making the connection to 171 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: the guy next to you, to the coach in front 172 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: of you, to the guy behind you, wherever it is 173 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: in a meeting room, in a prayer service, on the field. 174 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: All of those things go into it. So the personality 175 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: type has to fit as well as the football type. Well, 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: so I think it's a good time to to move 177 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: our attention then to the game come up this weekend. 178 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Eagles mojo. What's going on with the 179 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Eagles mojo right now? It looks like Jalen Huts will 180 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: be back this week. They still have a lot of 181 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: injuries on defense of Ante Maddox, Josh wetz, Gardner, Johnson, 182 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: those guys probably not gonna play. They gave up forty 183 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: two Dallas two weeks ago. They couldn't moved the ball 184 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: last week against New Orleans. Where is this Eagles teams 185 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: right now? A team that everyone for the first fifteen 186 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: weeks of the year considered the most complete team in 187 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, it's a dovetail off. Atlantis point about momentum. 188 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: You know they don't have any right now. They don't 189 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: have any momentum or mojo right now? Is that like 190 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: to say? And you gotta get that back. So one 191 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: thing that I hear is that Jalen Hurts is on 192 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: track to play and starting playing this game right, and 193 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: that will go along. He is the heart and soul 194 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: of the team. People always ask me, you know, was 195 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: it the system, was it the quarterback? Was it the coaching? 196 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: And I said, you look at that offense. The scheme 197 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: is Jalen Hurts. It has been Jalen Hurts. His ability 198 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: to run and throw, his ability as a dual threat 199 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: quarterback to win from the pocket. Now you have to 200 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: occupy another defender to Jalen Hurts running with the football. 201 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: The flip side of that, right John, is you look 202 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: at the top three quarterbacks who have been hit running 203 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: and throwing this year, they are justin fields hurt. Jalen 204 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: Hurts hurt, Daniel Jones not hurt. So you know luck 205 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: has played into it. You you gotta make sure you 206 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: protect yourself. And when I look at Daniel Jones running, 207 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: I see a young man who really understands how to 208 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: protect his body. I'm sure coaching has gone into that. 209 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts running, he was giving up his body 210 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, the Eagles ran the most quarterback 211 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: sneaks of any team in this century this year. That's 212 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: a lot of wear and tear on your quarterback. Paul, 213 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: Paul shaking his head. Paul, just get up, Paul, Just 214 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: get a fullback for crying out out. Yeah, sal You 215 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: know me, man, I don't want my quarterback running the 216 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: ball that much, well, especially with this driving his head 217 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: into the middle of a lot of scrimmage to the 218 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: heaviest and most violent players on the field, with guys 219 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: pushing them from behind. Let me repeat this, The Eagles 220 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: have run the most quarterback sneaks of any team in 221 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: the NFL in this century. The rugby move has like 222 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: overcome the NFL. Now you get those guys behind that quarterback, 223 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: and it really is hard to stop. They do a 224 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: good job at the lens. Well, I think they stopped 225 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: these fits of lines. Sound yeah, I guess you have 226 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: some degree. You could see some logic in the in 227 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: running behind the horses, But at the same time, you 228 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: are giving that guy a lot of extra hits that 229 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: he really doesn't need. He's your most important player, is 230 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: going to be a most expensive player. Uh And and 231 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: just to the point Paul and listen, I'm a big 232 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: believer and having a fullback on the field. I like 233 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: the fact that Kyle Shanahan it's a fullback. I like 234 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: the fact that Bill Belichick's always had a fullback. Coughlin 235 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: all those years had a fullback, Parcels had a fullback. 236 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Uh So, you know, short yard and should be for 237 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: a big man who you're not paying a lot right 238 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: on that, I mean, logic would dictate. But the important 239 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: point is to go back to John's question, they get 240 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: their mojo back if Jalen Hurts can get on the 241 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: field and do what Jalen Hurts has does has has 242 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: done so. But here's the question, now, so will we 243 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: see Nick Serriani dial up quarterback sneaks with Jalen Hurts 244 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: coming off a shoulder injury. I'm gonna answer the question 245 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: for you, No, Well, we see Jalen Hurts running around 246 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: in design run plays like he did for the first 247 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen weeks or the season as much as we saw. 248 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer the question, no, we will not. So 249 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: we will see a different Jalen Hurts on the field 250 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: for sure, and that changes the calculus defensively for link 251 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Martin Dale in this game, absolutely completely changes the dynamics 252 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: of the offense because, like you said, Sal, you have 253 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: to account for Jalen Hurts running or passing because of 254 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: his versatility. And the other thing that I think is 255 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: noticeable in Hurts his absence out you talked about they 256 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: don't have the mojo. They also have not done a 257 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: great job protecting the football. The turnovers are up they 258 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: have eight in the last three games. That takeaways are 259 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: down too, and Philly had been one of the best 260 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: teams in turnover differential for majority of this season. In 261 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the event that you just said, okay, they're gonna take 262 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: a step back with Jalen Hurts his approach and maybe 263 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: he has to put the ball in the air a 264 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: little bit more the conventional way. How much do you 265 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: think that's a product of why they haven't been nearly 266 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: as opportunistic and also not nearly as good at protecting 267 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: the football as of Lake Lance. I'm gonna give you 268 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: a forward answer. It's a great point, Lance, forwards, Hut hut, 269 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: ball out, get the ball out of your hands. So 270 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: I walk into the postgame press conference and there is 271 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: the first first person up there is Gardner midship and 272 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: the first question is about the sacks. And then I 273 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: say to Gardner, and you can see it on the transcript. 274 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I say to Gardner, Minshew, did you hold the ball 275 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: too long? And he looked at me. She said, Sally, yeah, 276 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: I probably held the ball too long. We have a 277 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: good offensive line. I held the ball too long. He 278 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: held the ball too long. So why did he hold 279 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: the ball too long. He was afraid of throwing interceptions 280 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: like he did against Dallas, so he was taking sacks. 281 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Those sacks turned into very negative place because they had 282 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: very bad field position in that game throughout the game. 283 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: But I go back to Lance, the decision by Shane 284 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: stuke In, the offensive coordinator and the head coach, Nick Sirianti. 285 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: After the Saints go on that nine played drive that 286 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: eats up eight minutes and fifty eight seconds in the 287 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: first quarter of the game. The Eagles dropped back the 288 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: past three times inside their own twenty Run the ball, 289 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: run the balls the house. Thank you, John. Yeah, let 290 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: me turn it to the other side, sal because I 291 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: think if I read the number correctly, I think it's 292 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: six games in a row these Eagles defense has had 293 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: at least six sacks. We know they had seven against 294 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: the Giants last month, which is the most the Giants 295 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: have allowed all season long. But yet they are also 296 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: nicked up on defense. What what can we expect to 297 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: see from the Eagles d this week? Well, you know, 298 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I think, Paul, those are good numbers. But they had 299 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks against Dallas, but they gave up 300 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: a fifty two yard bomb on the third and thirty. Okay. 301 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: Between two thousand and two thousands, twenty three NFL teams 302 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: went for third and thirty for a first down four 303 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: times the number in twenty two years four were converted 304 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: four including the game against Dallas. That's a percentage of 305 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: one point four. How do I know that number? Because 306 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: I asked Evan to look it up. I'm like, it's 307 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: not because I'm very smart or I did the work myself. 308 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I got. I got Evan Caplan at ESPN Stats and Information. 309 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: He's the gurup, so I had him look it up 310 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: because you know, nobody gets burned on third and thirty. 311 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: But the Eagles managed to be one of those teams. 312 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter how many sacks they gave up, 313 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: because they gave up some big place. The other thing 314 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: is they've been very bad. I used the word bad 315 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: keeping quarterbacks contained on third down. Ryan Tannehill ran for 316 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of first downs even though they lost that 317 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: game and saw Daniel Jones last week running off the edges. 318 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: If if the Eagles have to dedicate any of their 319 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: defense Paul too, uh, containing Daniel Jones as a rudder, 320 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna also change the calculus. I think the Eagles 321 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: are gonna have very very hard time beating the Giants 322 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: this week. I really do. And by the way, sound 323 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: even if Jones doesn't play or only plays part of 324 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: the game, Tyrod Taylor was not afraid to run out. Yeah, no, 325 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I think so to. Going back to Lanswer's question, Paul, 326 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: you know mo Mojoe and momentum. If if it doesn't, 327 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: if it doesn't coalesce quickly in the first quarter, you 328 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: know the crowd is gonna get on them, and you 329 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: know that, and then the Giants are feeling confident. A 330 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: lot of things can go wrong, but one thing that 331 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: has to go right for Philadelphia this week is that 332 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst has to come out and play to a 333 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: semblance of where he was, and then the Giants will 334 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: have trouble playing in this game against Eagles and maybe 335 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: heat the size. Okay, we're losing the game in the 336 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: second half. We pulled Daniel Jones, we pull say Kwon 337 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: Barkley and whatever. But I think if they smell a 338 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: chance to win the game, don't you think they're gonna 339 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: try to win the game? I think they are. The 340 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Giants are talking about I think they are. Maybe I'm 341 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: wrong you you guys are closer to it than I am, 342 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: but I just yeah, honestly, we're not sure yet. You know, 343 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Davels kind of preached win every game and compete every week, 344 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: so we think they'll they're gonna do that. But we 345 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: also think probably the guys that are banged up, they're 346 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna rest out. Well, the way you see, shockingly, someone 347 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: from Bill Belichick's coaching tree has not been completely forthcoming 348 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: on who's he gonna play on Sunday. By that, I 349 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: understand that he's an unprecedented situation right in a lot 350 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: of ways, he really is. And you know, God forbid, right, 351 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: you know what something happened? Absolutely all right? Well, the 352 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: one good thing here, sal and I'm gonna do one 353 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: more around the horn here and gonna go to bigger 354 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: playoff picture stuff here. We're actually pretty sure who the 355 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: Giant's gonna play in the first round. They're locked into 356 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: the sixth spot. Unless David Blow figures out a way 357 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: to beat the San Francisco forty Niners, probably not gonna happen, right, 358 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: The Cabal of the Giants rather, are going to play 359 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in Round one. Your thoughts on that 360 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: rematch after they had that dramatic tie, you know, broken 361 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: by the sixty one yard kick a couple weeks ago, 362 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: and just overall NFC playoff picture, how do you view 363 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: that potential matchup and how this NFC a playoff picture 364 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: might play out this week? Yeah? So I think that 365 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: the Giants are a good matchup against the Vikings because 366 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Ed Donna Tell's defense is a zone based defense. There 367 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: are a lot of soft spots in the middle. There 368 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: are a lot of zones. I don't remember the exact 369 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: numbers of what Daniel Jones did as a runner in 370 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: that game, but I don't remember him running a whole 371 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: lot and that he did not know he did not, 372 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: but he had. He had his best passing game of 373 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: the year against that right So against the zone, you 374 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: can throw like you can't really run because guys are 375 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: not playing man defense. So I think the Giants are 376 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: a good matchup against that Donna Tell's defense. That's no secret, 377 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. And if I'm weak, Martindale, I 378 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: play press coverage on Justin Jefferson. I don't let him 379 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, and I blitz blitz. Kirk 380 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: covers Cousins from the minute you step into the US 381 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: Bank Stadium. Think about blitz and how am my blitz 382 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: and where am I blitzing from? Uh, don't let Justin 383 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: Jefferson get a clean release. Make sure you figure out. Okay, well, 384 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: at some point they're gonna have to run the football 385 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook because maybe the Giants get in early lead, 386 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: and and then you know, you just come after Kirk 387 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Cousins and eminently I'm not telling you anything. You don't know, 388 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: Paul and John and and and Lance. But the bottom 389 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: line is that's an eminently winnable game on the road 390 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: in the playoff spot for the New York Giants against 391 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Eminently A sounds Since the summer, I 392 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: thought that Philadelphia was the best roster in the NFC. 393 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: I picked them to lose to Buffalo in the Super 394 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: Bowl back in July. But having said that, having said that, 395 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: as the season progressed and McCaffrey got traded to San Francisco, 396 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: I said, well, there's your NFC championship game at San 397 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: Francisco and Philadelphia. But now you got pretty at the 398 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: controls for San fran How's he going to react to 399 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: the playoffs? You have an Eagles team that needs Austin 400 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: Powers to find their mojo, and and you've got the 401 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: possibility of still Tom Brady, he's gonna be in the playoffs, 402 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers may sneak into the playoffs all of 403 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, Maybe I don't know who's gonna be in 404 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. It's hard to predict, by the way, 405 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: because we have a powel on the end of my name, Paul, 406 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: and I think I like I had the Eagles losen 407 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: to the Bills and the Super Bowl as well. You know, 408 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: I can throw that one out the window now. But 409 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: but let's and Paul. I think the Packers are talk 410 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: about Lance's point about momentum. I think the Packers have 411 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: s serious momentum, and momentum is spelled defense. They're playing 412 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: very well on defense. Aaron Rodgers has figured out if 413 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: if they have that young man Christian wants at a 414 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: near a hundred, I think he's a total game changer. 415 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: You've got a double team him. He's the fastest guy 416 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: on the field. He catches everything that's thrown to him. 417 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has got his light saber out. He's playing 418 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Obi wan Kenobi out there. He is just carving people 419 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: up effortlessly. Watch out for the Packers, that's all I'll say. 420 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: Watch out for the Packers. I think they beat the 421 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: Destroyed by twenty one on Sunday. They get in the playoffs, 422 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: and watch out if they If they do get in, 423 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: when they go to San Francisco. Is that what would happen? Correct? 424 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: That would be the two seven matchup. Yeah, so Rock 425 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: Party against Aaron Rodgers. Wow, okay, right, and then you 426 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: may have Aroed Rodgers after he gets through them going 427 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: up against Philadelphia. Could could could happen? Could happen? You know, 428 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: Eagles are a long way from that, Paul, right now. Yeah, 429 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. The Eagles need to put 430 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: together a touchdown drive in the first quarter, a touchdown 431 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: driver or two in the first quarter against the Giants 432 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: to get what Lance talked about the momentum back of 433 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: the season. Okay, we're good, We're okay, we got our 434 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: leader back. We can operate the normal parameters of how 435 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: we were operating weeks one through fifteen. He leads us down, 436 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: we score points. Remember when he went down, they were 437 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: leading in touchdowns. He was leading a touchdowns total among 438 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks running and passing. They were the number one team 439 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: at point score going into that game against the Saints. 440 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: Sco towards the game they squit ten points. So you know, 441 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: he's the offense, he's the team. Jalen Hurts is the scheme. 442 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not I don't think anybody within that organization, 443 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: and I know that very very well, haven't covered them 444 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: for thirty years. I don't think any of them is 445 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: concerned about San Francisco or Dallas or Green Bay. They're 446 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: just worried about the New York Football Giants, and particularly 447 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: can they operate function normally in the first quarter of 448 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: the game to get mojo and momentum back and maybe 449 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: give the Giants second thoughts about all right, well, you 450 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: know we thought we could come here and Phil, we're 451 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: not going to do that. That's that's the whole season 452 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: right there. Watch that first quarter, Paul, Watch that first quarter. Lance. 453 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: I would have jump in here real quick and to 454 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: follow up, just real fast. First of all, Paul, congratulations 455 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: on a pop culture reference from the late nineties. That's 456 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: great progress for you. Well done. You've gone out of 457 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. Really good job, Very They're very 458 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: good question, John, did he watch Actually all of the 459 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Austin Powers, the one of the two NFC playoff teams 460 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: we didn't mention yet. And then I'll let Lance wrap 461 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: us up. We didn't mention the Bucks of the Cowboys. 462 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I old Brady's had some late minute, late second touchdowns 463 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: and he flashes the old Brady. Him and Mike Evans 464 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: finally connected last week. They're probably gonna get Dallas in 465 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: the first round here, assuming Dallas doesn't, you know, jump 466 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Thill in the NFC East, it's still Tom Brady. But boy, 467 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: that Bucks team has just struggled all year. You mentioned 468 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: Rogers be in dangerous. How dangerous you think Brady and 469 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks are? Or do you think they're gonna struggle 470 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: against Dallas in the first round or Philly depending on 471 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: which team they get. Okay, John, here comes a pop 472 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: culture reference. I think Tom Brady's like Steven Seagal. It's 473 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: hard to kill. It's impossible to kill this guy. He 474 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: won't go down. He won't go down. He just won't. 475 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: He's like the raging bowl in the ring. I never 476 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: went down, ray I never went down. So, I mean 477 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: a great scene, right, and he walks over to the 478 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: corner right and goes, hey, ray I never went down. 479 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: That's Tom Brady. So um. Even you look at the 480 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: game against the Rams last year, right, Paul, I mean 481 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: you know the Rams were killing them. Tom Brady's yelling 482 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: at Sean Hockiley, I'm getting popped in the mouth by 483 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: Von Miller and Aaron Donald. Can you please stop these 484 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: guys popping me in the mouth. You're sacking him like crazy. 485 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: He comes back and then Todd Bowle's defense gives up 486 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: the long bomb the Cooper Cup. So hey, yeah, they're 487 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: hard to kill unless you have Eli Manning here you go. 488 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: Then they're marked for death. Oh I like it. Like that. 489 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a tough one to watch. 490 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: John draft Well, sal I want to circle back to 491 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: where the conversation started about how far the Giants have 492 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: come along, because I think we covered all the entities 493 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and I agree with you. The Packers 494 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: may fit label of a wild card team that gets 495 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: in playing its best football and maybe is able to 496 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: ride off into the sunset. We've seen that in the past, 497 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: but I think the common element of the NFC. You 498 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: look at what Kevin O'Connell has done with the Vikings 499 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: in year one, Ryan Dable with the Giants, and Kyle 500 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: Shanahan overcoming multiple injuries at the quarterback position. I'm curious 501 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: where you think Gable is within the conversation for Coach 502 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: of the Year in comparison to what a lot of 503 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: the other individuals I just named have been able to overcome, 504 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: and also the success of some of these first year 505 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: coaches we've seen this year. We les, how about Mike 506 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: Tomlin too undred Again, you can't got hard to kill 507 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Jeeves, there's two thousand seven, never had a 508 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: losing record. We'll see if that holds up. Yeah, listen, 509 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: I think Brian Dable is definitely in the mix for sure, 510 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: so is Kyle Shanahan. Nick Siriani has been the leader 511 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 1: in the couple of clubhouse for a couple of weeks. 512 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: I think the recent stumbles and Nick Siani acknowledging that 513 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: he had a poor coaching performance against the Saints, I 514 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: think that hurts Nick a little bit for sure. For sure, 515 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a vote. If I had a vote, 516 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: I would vote obviously. I think for the coach that 517 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: has transformed a quarterback that you know, coming into this 518 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: season there are a lot of question marks about. You know, 519 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: it was the year of living dangerously at the quarterback position, 520 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: and they've completely transformed that quarterback and wound up going 521 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Who am I talking about my talking 522 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: about day Ball? Am I talking about Syriani? Right? Could 523 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: be either one, right, Paul, could be either one. I 524 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: think they are one in one egg right now. That's 525 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: now you might say, come back to me. Guys in 526 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco may say, Hey, Shanahan's on his third quarterback, 527 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: because he's on a third quarterback on the last pick 528 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: in the draft, and look what he's done. So it's 529 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: a it's gonna be a tough decision for the voters 530 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: for sure. And you know, I don't know. Has there 531 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: ever been a co Coach of the Year, I don't 532 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: think question. Yeah, I don't think so. There have been 533 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: co co m v P s Barry Sanders, Bread Farve, uh, 534 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: Keith Hernandez and was it Willie Stargel in seventy nine? 535 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: All right, sal you've got some cloud. Make it happen. 536 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. I don't know. Would Philadelphia and 537 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: the Giants be able to share a trophy, though, Salve? 538 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: That would be unsharted territory. Yeah, I'm not sure that 539 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: would work. Why don't we bring it into the parking 540 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: lot at MetLife State even find out where they have to? Yea, 541 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: they would, sal good stuff, man, We really appreciate the time. Yeah, 542 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: it's an honor for me to call you my friends 543 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: and thank you so much for having me on your program. 544 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, and we'll see that a filling 545 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: in a couple of days. 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